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INTERVIEW: TANGLED (CHLOE & SI JUN) · 987 The Shock Circuit

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  Speaker 1: Right opposite us, we've got a very familiar face, accompanied
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  Speaker 1: by someone else that we want to know more about.
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  Speaker 1: But first, I think we need to give her the
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  Speaker 1: welcome that she deserves. We're gonna start with the uh
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  Speaker 1: lady on the extreme right. If you're watching us on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok live right now. Only our ex-producer, when she left,
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  Speaker 1: she gone on to do university studies. She has graduated.
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  Speaker 1: They grow up so fast. Please welcome back producer.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for the flowers, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: The virtual virtual flowers. It's flowers. No, I mean if
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  Speaker 1: you followed like all of 987's videos back then when
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  Speaker 1: you were producing for us, like she made some appearances
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  Speaker 1: in our videos too, like, and I think most notably
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  Speaker 1: it was the one where we did the bungee, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the reverse bungee together and the swing, the giant swing.
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  Speaker 1: Basically my entire job is to just make your lives
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  Speaker 1: as crazy as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And I won't forget where you dressed up in a
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  Speaker 1: pigeon outfit trying to scare me. That was another story.
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  Speaker 1: She hit me in a box. OK, I let the
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  Speaker 1: intern do that to me. OK, so, only because you
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  Speaker 1: have the experience and you are media savvy. Who is
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  Speaker 1: this very nice handsome young man next to you? What
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  Speaker 1: is your purpose being here today? Yes, so today we're
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  Speaker 1: actually here because we actually built a social platform on
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  Speaker 1: an app. So basically,
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  Speaker 1: An app to kind of connect communities together. So we
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  Speaker 1: made that together. This is Shi Jin and he is
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  Speaker 1: the developer and I'm basically the other side of it.
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  Speaker 1: I call a marketing person as the face of the
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  Speaker 1: app's be honest. I think that's a that's a stretch. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: so she does more of the talking, is it? Usually
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  Speaker 1: all the videos. Well,
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  Speaker 2: exactly. I'm never in the videos. I'm never in the
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  Speaker 2: videos because
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  Speaker 1: you're, you're.
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  Speaker 1: The brains behind it in some way, like as in
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  Speaker 1: developing wise, right? OK. So, so tell us how you
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  Speaker 1: both came together to do this and why choose to
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  Speaker 1: do something like Tangled, which is to connect people together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so, um, essentially my inspiration came from when I was
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  Speaker 2: in Finland. So over there, the badminton culture is very
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  Speaker 2: active and then from there I got super interested. I
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  Speaker 2: did a recreational competition.
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  Speaker 2: And then afterwards when I came to Singapore, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to find some people to play badminton with,
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  Speaker 2: but all my friends either played like super competitive or
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  Speaker 2: they just played like they didn't just play for fun,
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  Speaker 2: and it was so difficult to actually find people. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then later on I went to Taiwan for internship
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  Speaker 2: and that's where I found people.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, to play badminton with, and it's like just like
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  Speaker 2: pure luck, just like colleagues like spreading the word. So
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  Speaker 2: I was like wow, actually like it would be so
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  Speaker 2: great if like you're able to kind of find people
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  Speaker 2: to do the same interests and that led to Tango
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  Speaker 2: because I think after everyone goes to work, it's so
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  Speaker 2: difficult to find people of the same interests and same
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  Speaker 2: vibes
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  Speaker 1: just to be clear, it's not just min
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  Speaker 1: Across it's anything,
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  Speaker 2: anything. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So basically I go on one of the things I
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  Speaker 1: do for marketing is that I actually like test and
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  Speaker 1: see what kind of things really appear on the app
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  Speaker 1: and see who are the people floating ideas on what
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  Speaker 1: they want to do. So like one of the most
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  Speaker 1: like viral videos I did was that somebody literally was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I wanna invite strangers to my wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Literally like somebody was like, I want to invite just
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  Speaker 1: like people to come to my wedding. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to spread the love. If anyone wants to come, just
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  Speaker 1: like join the group. And I was like, why not, right?
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  Speaker 1: She went, she went and
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  Speaker 1: it was so nice. Like, I took pictures with her in-laws.
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  Speaker 1: Like I really did a whole shebang. It was so
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  Speaker 1: fun and yeah, I think it was a really good
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  Speaker 1: way to kind of find people like and you realize
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  Speaker 1: that Singaporeans are really not that introverted or unfriendly as
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  Speaker 1: you would perceive us to be. Yeah, no, I completely agree.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I think that people just form that opinion
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  Speaker 1: because for Asians, who are generally more reserved than like
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  Speaker 1: overseas and both of you have experienced like your internship
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  Speaker 1: and like your school life.
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  Speaker 1: Outside of Singapore as well, so you know that, yeah. So, OK,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask a like very curious question. So given
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  Speaker 1: the plethora of dating apps available and now some of
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  Speaker 1: these dating apps even have like your Bumble besties or something, right,
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  Speaker 1: like your interest or whatsoever, even clubs as well. So
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  Speaker 1: how would Tangle differentiate from all these things that we
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  Speaker 1: have already and what's like the key point for people
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  Speaker 1: who want to use your app to make friends?
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  Speaker 1: What's the key selling point? Yes, Chloe, Chloe, I see
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  Speaker 1: Chloe's eyes like, OK, you can basically, I think the
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  Speaker 1: key differentiator is the fact that we like advocate for
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  Speaker 1: smaller groups. So most of these group sizes are only
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  Speaker 1: 5 and below. So the idea is to really like,
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  Speaker 1: I know that people sometimes get really scared, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like run clubs can be really big sometimes. They feel
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  Speaker 1: scared to even scared. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't and I went on a run, a run
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  Speaker 1: thing on this app before, right? And I was so stressed,
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  Speaker 1: so I really like put it out there when I
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  Speaker 1: was floating my idea. I said, hey, I'm really bad
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  Speaker 1: at running. Then somebody replied to me saying, I'm bad
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  Speaker 1: at running too, let's go together. You know, so it's
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  Speaker 1: like there's that kind of like, OK, there's this like
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  Speaker 1: little bit more intimate conversations that you can have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't feel as scared because you know that
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  Speaker 1: somebody is gonna accompany you for real, and you're not
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  Speaker 1: just going into the unknown and like hoping that you'll
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  Speaker 1: find somebody. I think that's really the key.
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  Speaker 1: Differentiator here. And it's not, I, I get the sense
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  Speaker 1: that it's not like, oh, I'm looking to join this
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  Speaker 1: so that I can date someone. It's really like to
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  Speaker 1: get to know people and to connect and to get
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  Speaker 1: friends because I think now it's even harder than ever
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  Speaker 1: to make friends. It is, right? Would you say like
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  Speaker 1: back then because I think for us when we were
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  Speaker 1: in school and for you when you were in school,
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  Speaker 1: you also went through like the whole COVID times at
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  Speaker 1: some point. Like was that one of the reasons or
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  Speaker 1: key differentiators.
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  Speaker 2: That we realized that I mean we were all we
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  Speaker 2: were both doing like part-time internships throughout our school time
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  Speaker 2: and then when you do the part-time internships, it's like
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  Speaker 2: you only go back to school for like 2 days
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  Speaker 2: out of 5 the week and then honestly I look
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  Speaker 2: forward to those like 2 days because it's a time
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  Speaker 2: where I get to socialize yeah so like the cost
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  Speaker 2: of it is like once you leave school, it's so
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  Speaker 2: difficult to actually find the people and like it's everyone's
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  Speaker 2: schedule or clash and everything is so difficult to actually
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  Speaker 2: organize these meetups, especially in your club society and like
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  Speaker 2: all your.
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  Speaker 2: School.
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  Speaker 1: Like everyone has, you know, everyone's adulting and you have
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  Speaker 1: your own things to do. OK, we're gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: short break. When we come back, we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: what your plans are for the future of Tangled, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get more into it. Still joined here
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  Speaker 1: in the studio by Chloe and Jun, who have come
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  Speaker 1: on air to talk about an app to make new
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  Speaker 1: friends and build communities. So if you're going for BTS alone,
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  Speaker 1: maybe use the Tangled app, form a group and go together,
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  Speaker 1: make friends. Actually, I think the BTS army very united.
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  Speaker 1: They're quite united. They might have their own app.
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  Speaker 1: And we got Chloe and Su Chin here. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna carry on the convo about Tangled. Basically, TLDR is
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  Speaker 1: an app to make friends or similar interests, and all
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  Speaker 1: do it together. It's not like a dating app or whatsoever,
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  Speaker 1: so don't, don't get it wrong. It's quite different. It's
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  Speaker 1: more for communities, there is a question coming in on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok Live that I thought, hey, we could take it
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  Speaker 1: live on air as well from Anonymous. Do you all
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  Speaker 1: come across any weird activities on there? Are there any restrictions? Basically,
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  Speaker 1: how do you keep the app safe?
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a great question because it's something
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  Speaker 1: that I'm very concerned with, you know, especially as a girl.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's something we keep at the top of
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  Speaker 1: our minds, especially when we're making this. So I think
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  Speaker 1: the reason why this app even spot in the first
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  Speaker 1: place is because we saw a lot on Reddit, that
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  Speaker 1: there were actually a lot of people asking to, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to like do this together, anyone to do
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  Speaker 1: this together. We realized that there really was a need
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  Speaker 1: in that sense that people wanted to do it, but
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  Speaker 1: then I looked at it and I was like, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way Reddit is a safe place to do this, right? Right?
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  Speaker 1: There's no way.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, I mean, like, in that sense, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: why that spurred us to create the platform where there
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  Speaker 1: is a moderation on how you can, #1, you have
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  Speaker 1: to make a profile, 2, before you do anything, you
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  Speaker 1: can always, you must knock to join a group. Then
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  Speaker 1: the host will access whether you are suitable to join,
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  Speaker 1: for example, so you can check profiles, all of that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that gives you a layer of security
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  Speaker 1: because there is autonomy in that sense.
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  Speaker 1: But you haven't come across a situation where someone put
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  Speaker 1: like a fake name or fake profile picture or how
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  Speaker 1: does that work? Like you have to connect with the
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  Speaker 1: SingPass or something in the future. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know.
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  Speaker 2: I, as the tech person, so I, I like this report,
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  Speaker 2: the reports being made on the app, so we have
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  Speaker 2: a reporting system and then essentially we found out.
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  Speaker 2: Someone with like two accounts by the same like IP
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  Speaker 2: address and then essentially she was apparently trying to get
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  Speaker 2: men to pay for her outings out she's actually like
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  Speaker 2: banned from other like apps I think if you guys
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  Speaker 2: are familiar with Reddit as well like she's banned from
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  Speaker 2: the other groups. So when I heard it I was
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  Speaker 2: like
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  Speaker 1: oh
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  Speaker 1: wow so what he did was he banned.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately. So the thing is that it's a very close
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  Speaker 1: reporting system, right? We're not like somewhere else, we're here.
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  Speaker 1: So if we see a report, we're going to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be banned. Yeah. Yeah. So one more question
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  Speaker 1: coming through here is that, is it only available on
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  Speaker 1: Apple now that since we're on the tech side of things, OK,
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  Speaker 1: on the tech side of things we got to ask
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  Speaker 1: this because I think people are interested. Yeah. Perfect segue
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  Speaker 1: because we're finally on Android.
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  Speaker 1: Relief announcement.
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  Speaker 1: Android. We are now finally both on Apple and Android.
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  Speaker 1: I have so many questions on this every single day.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, we are now on Android. Please go and
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  Speaker 1: find it. It's on our website. Nice. Uh, can I ask,
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  Speaker 1: where do you find the time to balance an app
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  Speaker 1: and university studies at the same time graduated. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they did they founded this like during year 2, year
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  Speaker 1: 3 of uni. No, like last year,
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  Speaker 2: September, I think mainly just very little.
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  Speaker 1: It's
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  Speaker 1: OK. You're fine. You can do this right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But, uh, other than that, I mean, it's really just
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  Speaker 2: optimizing like workflow. So I mean for me like I
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  Speaker 2: made it such that I can code on my phone.
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  Speaker 2: So while traveling to work and then coming back, I will,
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  Speaker 2: I will work on
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  Speaker 1: its max man honestly all I can say is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of effort into this and also like on my
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  Speaker 1: side like for me it's a bit more spontaneous, right,
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  Speaker 1: because I have to keep filming. So that's like social
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  Speaker 1: energy that's different and I have high social.
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  Speaker 1: When you extrovert in a Singaporean dictionary, you get Chloe.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. I'm gonna slip one more in here.
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  Speaker 1: Someone says, I need rave buddies for EDC. Can I
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  Speaker 1: use this app? Yes, use it for that. I've seen that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing, because when I went for Tomorrowland recently,
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  Speaker 1: some Singaporeans actually hit me up on like IGDM or
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  Speaker 1: something to say.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, do you want to like gather at this place
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  Speaker 1: to take a Singapore photo, blah blah blah. So that
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  Speaker 1: could be another, you know, angle for you, festivals, music festivals.
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  Speaker 1: I saw somebody ask for Summer Sonic on the app. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's so cool. Oh my gosh. OK, before we let
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  Speaker 1: you guys go, what is your vision, vision
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  Speaker 2: for the future of Tangled?
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  Speaker 2: I think we have kind of grew like many more
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  Speaker 2: features eventually. At first it was just small groups and gatherings, right,
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that the kind of large group size
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  Speaker 2: doesn't intimidate people, but I think now it's becoming a
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  Speaker 2: thing where we want to focus on just making it
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  Speaker 2: A really nice social hub for the first professionals and
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  Speaker 2: maybe eventually like even the people who are more seasoned professionals. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that's the main, main kind of goal.
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  Speaker 1: I think in the sense it's like trying to have
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  Speaker 1: that way to facilitate um in an organic way where
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's not, it doesn't take too much time,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't take too much effort, it doesn't take like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having to rent out spaces all the time because,
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  Speaker 1: you know,
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  Speaker 1: Space is always a concern in Singapore. I think just
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  Speaker 1: having that avenue to connect and really like interactions
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  Speaker 1: fly.
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  Speaker 1: While you do that, while you do that, how do
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  Speaker 1: you earn money in the future? Like, do you, are
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  Speaker 1: you planning to grow that finance side of things? Right
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  Speaker 1: now it's a dream, but please hit us up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, OK. Hit us up, we are figuring that out, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: investors call us, but right now we are really like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just us in a dream. We're just like putting
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  Speaker 1: our effort into it because we see the importance for
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  Speaker 1: people and how they've benefited so much.
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  Speaker 1: And when people tell us that, hey, this app has
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  Speaker 1: really like helped me out, like I really found somebody that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I went to a concert with because of
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  Speaker 1: this app, it makes me feel really
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  Speaker 1: good.
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  Speaker 2: I select curds, we know they've made it.
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  Speaker 1: They got, they got some of that dollar.
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  Speaker 1: So excited to see how this app grows along with
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  Speaker 1: you in different phases of life as well. So all
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  Speaker 1: the best to Tango and get it. It's available on
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  Speaker 1: Android now and it's always been available on Apple. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can download. We're so excited for you. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: coming by to chat with us and thank you for
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  Speaker 1: coming back, Chloe. I'm back.