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Unveiling New Year's Resolutions #201 · The Magic Guys

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  ten Would it be under 180 pounds of muscles,
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  six foot five,
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  and the hands that amaze and delight.
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  It is Nick K.
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  Here I'll come out flexing and in the red corners, bending an amazing nine foot nine.
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  Laying down. Laying down. The beatboxer beat down. Woo! That's Nubito.
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  Thank you it's great to be here if you got in
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  a fight and you actually did sound effects while you were fighting like
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  you'd be like how dare you i'm like did you just beatbox and slap me at the
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  same time yeah i'm not i'm not against it it's a nice idea it's a nice idea
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  and i'll work on it but and you know i'm gonna film it if i was to do that so
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  stay tuned but look here we are episode 201.
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  Some people who listened to episode 200 might be saying, what the hell guys,
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  you said you're going to take two weeks off.
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  Well, magic is about surprise and well, we missed you guys. So we thought let's just start a week early.
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  Who needs two weeks off anyway? Yeah. We actually missed each other more than
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  anything. And Doug didn't miss us as much, which is why he's not here today. He has a life.
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  He is enjoying his holiday time with his family, but he
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  will be back fear or not and he does send his love and wish all of our listeners
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  a very happy new year with lots of magic love and prosperity which is basically
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  what we're talking about today with all new years that come there's always that
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  annoying notion of the news resolution some folks go never gonna,
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  this again i'm never gonna that again i'm gonna lose weight i
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  know what mine are i break them every year although this year i'm
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  gonna be yeah what's the saying like yeah i
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  quit quitting smoking's easy i do it every year or
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  something like that yeah yeah exactly right so so we put the call out to you
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  guys and we kind of said hey planets what are your new results let's say that
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  again what are not what are your new year's resolutions i wrote down a 10 of
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  them in total but I want to hear what you guys have to say.
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  So thank you for sending through your speak pipes. Josh, do we have a speak pipe loaded up?
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  We have one that came through before we put out this call.
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  And this was a really nice thing to hear.
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  It comes from a gentleman in the US named, well, in brackets, he says, Mr. James.
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  I think that might be his performing name, but his name is LeSean James.
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  Very suave, very, suave is the best word I got right now. in the morning.
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  He's in through a speak pipe. We're going to play it for you now. Here we go.
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  I've been telling myself I was going to leave a speak pipe for a really long time.
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  And tonight was one of the nights where I had to leave one because I need you
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  all to know how much of an impact you're having on magicians,
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  especially ones that are hobbyists looking to become more like semi-professionals or professionals.
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  You all are amazing inspiration and you've just created avenues for people to
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  learn and grow and even to work. And so I'm a San Antonio magician.
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  I'm working at a residency at Holy Moly where I'm able to do magic.
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  And it's just been an amazing experience.
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  And so I wanted to reach out to you all and say thank you for your support as far as just the podcast.
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  And I really, really hope you know deep, deep, deep down inside that your podcasts
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  are not only reaching people, but really affecting them in a positive way.
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  And so let me speak on behalf of everyone who hasn't yet left a speak pipe to
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  say thank you. and say thank you to all of you for what you're doing for the
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  magic community um it really is just a healthy healthy podcast and a healthy
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  place to listen and to grow thank you guys.
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  Wow dude that was nice we're really making a difference aren't we pal one magic
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  wand at a time that's really cool james thank you for the kind words and thank
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  for being part of Omegan.
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  Really happy to have you aboard. It's really nice.
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  When magic is a gift and being in the true nature of giving,
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  you give without the expectation of receiving if you're truly in the spirit
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  of giving, much like we would in Christmas time.
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  And to hear that back is beautiful and unexpected, but deeply appreciated.
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  Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for those beautiful words. Amazing.
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  I've not had the pleasure of speaking with Mr. James before,
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  but I hope we get to hear more from it.
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  Yeah, super cool. And also, you know, we enjoy doing this, but there is something
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  about once you, I forget that there's like a, there's like four tiers of what you do in a profession.
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  And it's like, you like learn from someone, you work really hard,
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  you like make a career and then you like send the elevator back down and you
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  like help the next cycle of people do it.
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  And, you know, we're in no way, you know, big, famous magicians,
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  but we just already enjoy.
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  Well, Nick is famous, you know, but, but, you know, we just like to.
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  Infamous. Infamous, yeah.
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  Nice. We love it is what I'm saying. And this is a great outlet.
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  And we're just so thankful that you guys enjoy it too. All right.
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  Enough of that before we make Nick start crying. The next big pipe that came
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  in, starting with the New Year's goals, is from Kyle W. Magic.
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  Is he in the chat today, Kyle? Are you there?
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  This is your big pipe. Let's see. I have not vetted this in advance,
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  so let's see what Kyle has for us. Is it rolling?
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  Oh, sorry. You can't hear that.
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  The important thing about magic is to share people and
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  sometimes sharing is also comes in like being able
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  to hear things and that is hilarious you see me
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  putting my fist up like yeah yeah because i'm listening
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  to it really you're just for the listeners i'm just
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  i i heard silence but then i see josh's sort of fist
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  pumping like yeah man there's some words coming out
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  of this uh luckily the ai editor
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  in the audio that cuts out the the silent spots you
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  probably won't notice that awkward silence if you listen to this
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  on also we do this live we do this live it's
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  just unedited it's just straight raw dogging into the microphone
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  so uh let's let's give it let's give it a take two on speak
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  pipe two here we go hey guys kyle
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  w magic here from the uk are you hearing this now first of
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  all happy new year to you all and my 2025
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  goals are complete the free ball cascade juggle if you've got any tips send
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  them my way please because i've been struggling for about two three months now
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  in the rhythm and stuff but i'd like to hear what your views are and your goals
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  are for 2025 and do we get jason back this year dun dun dun.
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  So i think i heard him say he's trying to
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  do the three ball cascade juggle is what
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  he said one of his goals are oh is that what he said i i'm
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  pretty sure because he has a great sexy uk accent which
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  girls love but for us we're trying to decipher we're trying to translate from
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  british to standard whatever english is to aussie accent i think that's what
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  he said the three ball cascade juggle which i'm guessing is your classic one over one over,
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  I think the tips for that is you just have to do it. I remember,
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  because I remember really enjoying juggling when I was a teenager.
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  And you just have to make a routine where every morning you make yourself do,
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  like 20 cycles of it without dropping or you do it again.
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  Once you nail it, then great. You go back the rest of your day.
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  Then tomorrow, you just make sure you start your day with it.
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  Have your juggling balls right next to your bed or on your desk.
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  And you just do it much like in magic where it's like, all right i really
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  want to nail the anaconda so how do you do that well you gotta freaking do it
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  a lot over your bed and drop them so repetition i think if i had to yeah i would
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  say anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hung well that that's that's
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  actually leads me to my goal for 2025,
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  is to get some buns yeah yeah well i mean i look i i i don't know enough about juggling to to um,
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  To give you any expert advice, but the way that I try to break down almost anything
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  that I need to achieve in my life is little victories.
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  I focus on very little victories. And it might be something to the extent of
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  if I want to run five kilometers without dying, I will start with 500 meters.
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  And if I do that and I win, then that's just a small win.
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  And then focus on going one kilometer, two kilometer, three kilometer or a mile.
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  It doesn't particularly matter. But the point is that little victories lead to big wins.
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  And I think that if you break it down in small pieces, whether it be like a
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  single move or I don't know, you know, just just or phases.
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  If a certain phases of a routine or certain phases of a book or even like a
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  script, you know what I mean?
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  Like you just just take a one bite at a time and see how you go.
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  And I hope I'm hoping that applies to juggling, but that's sort of the best advice I can give.
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  For somebody who doesn't know how to juggle, I would sort of go,
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  okay, let's just toss one ball from one hand to the other and then try to get
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  a second one involved and then a third one and then break down what the phases
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  look like when you sort of go from it goes from this hand to this hand, then up and over.
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  Like I would just do those one at a time, like for as long as it takes and then
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  go, okay, I'm ready to go to like the fifth phase of this three ball juggle type thing.
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  I mean, I hope that's of something of help. Yeah, I hope we actually heard that
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  correctly and you're not actually saying you want to learn like the Cascade Shuffle or something.
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  People could just be listening back to this being like, look at these stupid
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  boys that don't even listen to their people.
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  And we apologize if that's the case. But either way, I think that the practice method still stands.
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  Little victories, lots of little bite to eat the elephant.
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  100%. All right, next SpeakPipe 2025 New Year goals is from a friend of ours
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  from the podcast and fellow Melbourneite, LJ.
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  Liam Jumpets, he sent in a speak pipe. Thank you for sending that in, Liam.
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  We're going to play yours now, and I'm hoping you hear it straight first go.
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  Hey everyone, it's LJ here from Melbourne.
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  Lots of love to you all and a very happy new year. I have some very ambitious goals for 2025.
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  I'm going to be producing a brand new show this year and also continuing to
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  develop the show that I won an award for last year in 2024.
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  And I'll be putting it on in front of the biggest crowd that I've done the show for yet.
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  And yeah my goal is to build as good
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  of a team as possible to help produce that show because i
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  can tell you right now it's definitely not going to be an easy slog
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  by myself but yeah i know that i
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  can absolutely count on the people close to me and yeah work on that with them
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  but yeah i'll be producing a show in the adelaide fringe festival i'll be producing
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  a show in the melbourne comedy festival then the magic festival and then the
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  fringe festival in melbourne later on in the year as well. So big, big year.
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  And as well as all of that, I'll have all my regular stuff going on as well.
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  So yeah, fingers crossed, that'll be fantastic.
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  And yeah, if you guys have got any tips or tricks for managing workload whilst
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  also keeping up all the other hobbies in my life, then yeah,
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  please feel free to share. Lots of love. Cheers.
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  That's awesome, LJ. Thank you for sending it through. Just a quick plug for a show.
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  It's called magic safe which is based off a
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  work safe conversation we have here in
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  town we spoke about it on lj's episode a few
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  episodes back by all means look it up totally worth a listen lj is an amazing
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  performer slash amateur pro wrestler and he puts those sort of two entities
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  together and produces this really brilliant show that's super duper funny i've
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  seen it and it's great and it's got so much potential to basically.
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  To be worthy of awards at like Melbourne's Comedy Festival.
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  It really does. But producing shows of this nature, as you sort of mentioned,
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  like what are there to think about? What is there to work on?
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  I think having a great show, step one, is probably one of the most important things.
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  And you do have an infrastructure and community that are going to help you do
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  that. You've got people you can lean on like me and everyone else in the Magic
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  community, people within our Discord.
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  Like we're all here for each other and we all want to see each other succeed. That's the easy part.
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  But I think the other part that I think Josh would be better equipped to answer
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  would be things like the marketing entities and the promo and things where,
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  you know, how do we sell bums on seats, for example, because you could produce
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  the most amazing show, but if no one knows about it, what happens then?
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  Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, the very easy answer is you need to get like a publicity agent.
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  If you're like, I mean, that's if you are doing a big tour or something or like
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  a week long run where if you need to sell like a ton of tickets,
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  then because you do have to pay for a PR agency, but they are the ones that
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  will get you on TV and stuff.
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  That's like the simple answer. but what i caught
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  lj asking really was how to manage the workload of doing that and keeping up
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  with work and hobbies and stuff so i think his question was because he understands
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  that doing these shows are going to require a lot of his time what's a tip to manage that workload.
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  Sacrifice sacrifice i know that you
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  like if you're someone who like okay like i don't play video
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  games i don't spend a lot of time tinkering with just watching tv shows like
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  i don't sit in front of netflix and just like kill three or four hours i would
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  rather do that in front of a book so that's the sort of suggestion i have for
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  things like that that there's going to be certain things you're going to need
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  to sacrifice and sometimes those sacrifices will look like you have to get up
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  earlier in the morning to get what you're going to get done to make time for
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  things you know that's that old saying it's like if they want to be here they'll
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  be here like it's you know you can make excuses, yes, but I think ultimately,
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  bro, like, you just gotta change
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  down priorities and hope that people can support and understand you.
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  I mean, I second what Nick said. And I said, I also, a thing that has helped
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  me manage my time is funnily enough, planning it out.
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  So I have discovered the most genius way of making sure that I make content
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  every day and it's by fucking writing it down.
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  So I've got myself a whiteboard and I plan out, this is from last week,
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  but I plan out like Monday to Sunday, what piece of content I'm going to make.
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  And therefore it's so easy to walk in the next day into this room and go,
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  oh yeah, today I'm cutting this thing, like a snippet from my show.
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  Or today I'm going to find a trend on Instagram and I'm going to make my version of it.
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  And that way I'm already thinking about the videos I'm going to make through
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  the week. And it gives me more time for my brain to come up with the best idea of it.
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  Whereas I used to come in here and completely from scratch every day go oh what
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  am i gonna do today and i'll spend like freaking 20 minutes,
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  just wasting time trying to think of something so anyway it's like such a small
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  thing that you know i don't know why i wasn't doing this before but planning
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  out your week that way you'll know if you actually have time to fit everything
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  in and what not to fit in like nick was was uh was saying.
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  But keep us updated keep also like having
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  the discipline to follow through having a plan is one thing you know
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  but plans without action are just dreams isn't that the saying that is like
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  that is the saying yeah so if you like you know you get to this point where
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  you say like i wanna i wanna this i wanna that but then you got to turn those
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  one is into goners and actually do what you're gonna,
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  so i like it yeah good luck
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  with that lj you're gonna be just fine you got a great show
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  we've spoke about stuff and i threw out a suggestion
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  and he was like i can't do that you can you just
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  got to make it happen because that's a big really challenging
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  it's supposed to be yeah but he's got everything he needs to make that happen
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  and he and i will talk about that over some lovely korean fried chicken very
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  very soon yeah hell yeah all right last big pipe scotty p scotty p scotter the
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  mid-strength magician,
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  has sent in his big pipe just this morning, I believe.
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  Thank you for sending that in. Let's see what Scotty has in store for us.
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  What's going on, Magic guys and viewers? It's Scotty P here.
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  I have a rather aspirational goal for 2025, which is to replace my full-time
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  job with being a corporate magician.
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  I do have a strategic plan in place to get there, but it is aspirational, as I mentioned.
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  I have a much more simple goal for 2025, which is just a gig.
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  I just want to get out there. I want to perform.
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  I like doing the charity events, the gala dinners and charity balls.
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  However, I'll just take what I can get, whether they're private parties or whatever.
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  Just that's it. I want to get out there. I want to perform and I want to get more gigs under my belt.
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  Wishing everyone the best for 2025. And hopefully I'll be able to tune in to
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  the next episode. See ya.
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  Good goals yeah nice essentially get
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  out there and perform is what i'm hearing from scotty and that's the right the
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  right attitude to approach it with i think
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  it's also good to know what you want if you don't know what you want you don't
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  really know where to go like if you're sort of if you need direction in your
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  life i so i guess let me take a step back from that it's like if study's in
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  a position thankfully where he's like i know what i want and i'm going to start
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  taking small steps to get that. That is step one. That's great.
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  Sometimes you're sitting there going, okay, what are your steps this year?
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  You go, well, I don't know. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what
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  I need to, whatever else. And that's okay.
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  We've all been there. I feel like that at least twice a year.
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  But I think that what happens then, if I can give you any direction,
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  is take a second and focus on what you don't want to do.
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  And by eliminating what you don't want to do, it'll give you perspective to
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  find out what you do want to do.
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  So let's say, for example, you say, I want to do gigs and you go,
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  great. Do you want to do kids parties? And you go.
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  Do you want to do your own shows? No, not really.
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  Like, I won't be able to sell tickets. Like, what do you want?
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  Like, I just want to get asked to do a couple of birthday parties or maybe get
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  a residency and go, okay, great. Now you've got some focus.
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  Let's write down three sort of gigs that you would like to be performing. Okay, cool.
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  And then figure out how to get there. So that's kind of what I like to do.
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  If it's like, if you don't know what you do want to do, focus on what you don't want to do,
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  and just through process of elimination, it'll help you figure
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  out at least a direction that you can
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  start going into and you can always pivot that
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  you can always go back and pivot but just move
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  forward don't confuse movement with progress you know just because you're thinking
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  about something you think that you're like your brain's moving and you're getting
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  progress done you're not it's not until you start putting distance that you
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  start making progress it's not until you start losing your hair that you're
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  working so hard that you're making progress oh you can see how far I've come. Yeah.
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  I had a ponytail on episode 10. I had an afro.
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  An afro. Man, that's so weird to think.
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  I had hair at the beginning of this podcast, like episode one to episode,
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  I don't know, 50 or I forget. Anyway.
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  Yeah. I just renewed my international license because I'll be heading overseas
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  shortly and I have a photo from, I think it was like 2007 versus now.
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  And it's like, Jesus Christ, I look tired.
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  What now or back then? Now I look tired. I'm like, oh my God, you look tired, old man.
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  Yeah. Pre-beard, pre-all that. Bold, but pre-beard. So like it was,
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  it's a fun time. But is that the last of our speak pipes?
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  That is the last of our speak pipes. And we want to head into our own goals
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  or advice or thoughts that we've had over Christmas.
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  Yeah. Before we do that, you and I were having a really cool conversation about
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  a really awesome visitor that came past the Theatre of Magic.
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  Should we touch about that real quick before we press into the cheeky list of
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  mine? Because I think that's a very cool story.
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  Absolutely. Pretty surreal. So...
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  There is it there is its own story as to how this came to be but that can be for another time,
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  essentially adam chaya adam sorry
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  adam shire i found out that's how you pronounce his
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  name he at first i knew
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  he was like a hobbyist magician right
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  but then i found out no he's
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  actually the creator of siri that
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  we all use in our iphones his company
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  created siri and sold it
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  originally it was an app available on
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  the ios app store and then he sold it
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  to apple and i'm just reading what google says
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  apple bought it for 200 million dollars was
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  that all since then adam also he has
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  five companies he has a company called viv labs he.
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  Also created change.org the
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  website jesus there's like and then
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  there's like three other things anyway great guy like just
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  really fascinating mind and he
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  and his family came to brisbane specifically
• 22:32
  to see our theater of magic show like i'm
• 22:35
  talking he landed and two hours later
• 22:38
  he was at our theater having dinner beforehand surah
• 22:42
  show he had lunch with us the next day and
• 22:45
  then early in the morning following that they left
• 22:48
  and kept going on their holiday like they went to melbourne to
• 22:51
  and stuff it was crazy and that was
• 22:54
  because another magician had mentioned me that he
• 22:57
  knows in the u.s and so it all kind of like worked
• 23:00
  out really well anyway so you know
• 23:03
  he's coming so you're like holy crap like how
• 23:06
  do we what do we do we're like let's just do our normal
• 23:09
  thing he came and saw the show and this guy
• 23:12
  and he and he even said like any advice i give
• 23:15
  you just know this might not be actual advice
• 23:18
  for a normal audience seeing a show because he might
• 23:22
  be he might have seen the most magic
• 23:25
  on earth than any one person like has consumed like
• 23:29
  he makes it a point to seek out every magician
• 23:32
  he can every show he can like they'll
• 23:35
  travel as he did for us to see a show if he.
• 23:38
  Hears about it and he's there's a different angle on it like he wants
• 23:41
  to go in and see it and stuff and something
• 23:44
  else you should know is he has an annual party where he
• 23:48
  hires the best magicians from around
• 23:51
  the world to perform at for his guests now when i say that he showed me photos
• 23:57
  on his phone and he has a video on youtube of like the recap of this event so
• 24:00
  i'm not saying anything that isn't already public but he's flipping through
• 24:04
  his phone and I'm seeing at his party, he's like a vent.
• 24:09
  He's got Eric Chen. And,
• 24:12
  doing his event. Roving, he has Danny D.O.T.'s doing the roving.
• 24:18
  So Danny D.O.T.'s is there roving. Eric Chen is doing a stage performance.
• 24:22
  Charlie Fry is doing a performance. What? The year before that,
• 24:28
  he had Shin Lim, or two years before that, he had Shin Lim.
• 24:31
  And there was like three other crazy people that I saw on that.
• 24:37
  Like, they're all headliners. That would be one person at an event,
• 24:41
  but he's brought them all to one place.
• 24:44
  What I'm saying is like, it's insane to see that.
• 24:47
  And so what it tells me is, okay, he has access to like all the top magicians
• 24:51
  in the world. And he's telling me stories about him in Copperfield because they're
• 24:55
  friends, because they're on the same kind of wavelength, you know,
• 24:58
  business wise and stuff.
• 24:59
  And, you know, just insane.
• 25:03
  Then we ask him about our show, right? So he's seeing the show,
• 25:06
  we ask him the next day like do you have advice and stuff and
• 25:10
  then something he specifically said to me was all
• 25:14
  the top magicians that i love personally that i
• 25:17
  fly out to perform at my event are
• 25:21
  there because they're like a like they
• 25:24
  have a specific character or a specific niche in
• 25:27
  which they excel at like they're a magician who can
• 25:30
  do this or like they're a magician but they
• 25:33
  also do this art form on top of it they're not
• 25:36
  just a magician doing just a blasé of great tricks
• 25:40
  they're like he's the best in the world
• 25:43
  at that thing and when he said he watched my show the character he gets the
• 25:49
  vibe of is the master sleight of hand angle like because i'm doing very intricate
• 25:55
  difficult close-up sleight of hand stuff and he and that's what he enjoyed watching but.
• 26:01
  Then he said but then you
• 26:04
  do a trick that has nothing to do with that and i'm thinking why
• 26:07
  did you why is that trick in
• 26:10
  the show that has nothing to do with this character i've
• 26:13
  seen you doing the rest of the show and what he's talking about is a drink prediction
• 26:16
  where the drink changes in the can and you pour it out he's like how come you
• 26:21
  did all this intense sleight of hand and great stuff but then you end with something
• 26:26
  that has nothing to do with the rest of your show and the only answer I could
• 26:29
  give him was, I know it gets a good reaction.
• 26:32
  Like I know I built the routine to have good beats and laughter and stuff, but you're right.
• 26:35
  Really, if I ask why I'm doing it, it's only because of like,
• 26:39
  I know it will get a good reaction.
• 26:41
  So what he posed to me is, once you know what your character is,
• 26:45
  you should always be able to answer the question of why is my character doing
• 26:49
  this routine in this show? Yeah.
• 26:52
  And the patter or your scripting should explain to the audience why you're doing it.
• 26:59
  Like each routine should like reveal something about yourself,
• 27:02
  like yourself being your character.
• 27:04
  So that they come away after the show feeling like they've really learned a
• 27:07
  lot more about who that performer is.
• 27:10
  And so I had no intention of that being a goal for 2025.
• 27:15
  But now it really is to build
• 27:19
  the show making sure that every piece that
• 27:22
  i'm doing like is something my character would do and sprinkle some form of
• 27:28
  truth within it to tie it together and like leave them knowing more about like
• 27:35
  the identity of me so i don't get lost in the sea of.
• 27:40
  You know oh are you the same guy that
• 27:43
  did our event like three years ago they did something with
• 27:46
  the cube as well like i don't i want you know that's how
• 27:49
  you help make sure that they know like nick k specifically
• 27:52
  not you know this great magician
• 27:55
  at some point we saw what was his name i don't know
• 27:58
  really like i
• 28:01
  could go so deep on this it just kind of blew my mind but but that
• 28:04
  and he then he gave me examples of like the
• 28:07
  david blanes and even the chris angels and
• 28:10
  the copperfield and he like could really isolate each
• 28:13
  one and tell me about them and why their shows are
• 28:16
  the way they are and why they end the way they end and really cool
• 28:19
  stuff like my head almost exploded and
• 28:23
  yeah really grateful that have spent time with him
• 28:25
  and that was adam shayer that's really
• 28:28
  cool and that's really high praise as well like to
• 28:31
  receive someone you know that what
• 28:34
  what spins me out the most is his understanding of magic is phenomenal like
• 28:38
  it really is but i mean what do you expect the man's a genius and he's achieved
• 28:41
  so many brilliant things in his career you know what i mean being able to sell
• 28:45
  sirion and so forth like power to him like what an absolute privilege and honor
• 28:49
  to to meet someone like that and spend time with him that's fantastic dude.
• 28:53
  Yeah. Also, he talked really highly of a magician named Joe Barry.
• 28:59
  Have you heard of this gentleman before?
• 29:00
  I lectured with Joe Barry some years ago. Yes.
• 29:04
  From the UK, right? I think in the UK. Yes. Joe Barry is one of the best kept secrets in magic.
• 29:11
  Imagine Danny D Ortiz, but
• 29:14
  really English and really handsome
• 29:17
  like that's so and and and the
• 29:20
  stuff he does it's it's when i say like we're
• 29:23
  not talking like hey oh we're talking like proper english gentlemanly
• 29:27
  blah blah blah but his card work and the stuff he does like to
• 29:30
  give an example we'll be sitting at a table and we'll
• 29:33
  just be jamming and then he'll do something where like
• 29:37
  the car where they'll someone will think just think of a card and
• 29:40
  then you snap your your your fingers and
• 29:43
  then you take your cards out of your box and that card's been inverted but
• 29:46
  not only your card the guy in front of you the guy next to
• 29:49
  you the guy next to you the guy next to you the guy everyone take your cards out
• 29:52
  and spread and somehow in amongst all the interactions he's
• 29:55
  taken everyone's deck and just inverted them and given them back to you and stuff
• 29:57
  and like like there is a level of of jedi that guy does and i've watched his
• 30:02
  his works i've seen his dvds it's not even a tenth of what i've seen him do
• 30:07
  in person my most favorite thing i ever saw him do and this wasn't and it wasn't
• 30:12
  even a force was he grabbed a deck, right?
• 30:15
  And he lifted the back left corner with his thumb and he showed me the pip in
• 30:20
  this instance, the three of diamonds, right?
• 30:22
  He then clipped it between his thumb and first finger, no break, no out jog, nothing.
• 30:28
  He asked the spectator to say stop and then gave him the deck to shuffle.
• 30:32
  And I looked at him and I went, Joe. And he looked at me as if just very kind
• 30:36
  of nonchalant, like, yeah, I'm that guy. And I was like, Joe.
• 30:40
  And he was like, I got this. And I'm like, No. And then I said.
• 30:46
  Do you know and i explained oh
• 30:49
  it's just timing it's just timing like i'm really good at estimation
• 30:52
  and i was like okay can we can we explore that together he said
• 30:55
  yeah and so and so we're doing
• 30:58
  stuff and he was like boom throw it anywhere in the deck and
• 31:01
  he just by estimation was just cutting to it like every time or off
• 31:04
  by one one time like it was it was
• 31:06
  amazing to see that level of it and how we got there
• 31:09
  is an amazing story and i don't know if i'm privileged if i should be saying it
• 31:12
  or not but i might save that for a different story i might bring
• 31:15
  him on board and he might share the story himself but he's extremely good
• 31:18
  to get a hold of we have to get yeah i will i know
• 31:20
  a guy that books him every year so maybe he can get us
• 31:23
  in touch because adam could not speak highly of
• 31:26
  him more highly he said he's like what you
• 31:29
  just said the best like underground kept secret crazy magic
• 31:33
  and adam hides him every year for his party
• 31:36
  and the reason is he said adam adam
• 31:39
  said that joe gave him the best like the
• 31:42
  most magical moment of magic he could ever.
• 31:45
  Like he gave him the best moment of magic he's
• 31:48
  ever felt is what he described and it wasn't any card
• 31:51
  at any number which for most layman isn't
• 31:54
  normally ranked as like the best plot but
• 31:57
  for adam it is because he's a data guy a
• 32:00
  business guy you know an analyst guy yeah so the
• 32:04
  the story he said was you know there's all
• 32:07
  these methods of any any card any number you've got the ozzy wins the you know
• 32:11
  all these different versions with stacks and and this is just what i'm saying
• 32:15
  is like they always use a box they always you know blah blah blah but joe did
• 32:19
  a version where he sat the deck on the table and from my memory he never touched
• 32:23
  it after that and he asked me to name a card.
• 32:26
  And a number and he never approached the
• 32:29
  deck he let me approach it and he's like
• 32:32
  i know three different stacks and this is not in
• 32:35
  a stack but when i got to that number
• 32:38
  it was my card and adam said he just jumped back
• 32:40
  from his chair like this is ridiculous and then
• 32:43
  joe's like yeah that's like that's like my thing at the moment that i've been
• 32:47
  working on it's the thing that you know i'm really proud of and adam like this
• 32:52
  is insane yeah and so i'll share one last joe story before we press on because
• 32:57
  when I lectured at the GenieCon convention, it was, I think it was myself,
• 33:02
  Levant, and Joe Barry, and we were doing a show.
• 33:05
  And it was in three separate rooms. What was happening was, as we performed
• 33:08
  in each room, we would then circulate and perform for these different groups.
• 33:12
  It was a very large convention.
• 33:13
  And so the audiences stay put, but the performers change.
• 33:17
  And I walk into Joe's room to a standing ovation that I had to follow. Woo-hoo!
• 33:24
  Gary davis who's in the chat he was actually there uh that's actually where
• 33:28
  i think where he and i set up a friendship but yeah it was it was phenomenal
• 33:32
  like just just great i got my ovation as well thankfully but i think out of
• 33:36
  pity more than anything like it was a good act but.
• 33:39
  Erroneous like he's so difficult to get a hold of there's no socials
• 33:42
  of him he barely even has a website and and the funny
• 33:45
  thing i spoke to him he was like i only work for
• 33:48
  like five people they book me regularly they
• 33:51
  pay me a ton to be there i work for apple i work for this i work
• 33:54
  for that and this makes sense now this is the this is the conduit that
• 33:57
  we just sort of like put together so putting two or two together like yes joe
• 34:00
  barry if anyone has any contacts with him let him know we'd love to share who
• 34:06
  you are that would be amazing and just to see you again bud it's been a while
• 34:10
  it'd be good to see you so yeah there we are but cool story so circling back to this new
• 34:18
  year's resolution that we are currently facing i put together a small list of
• 34:22
  things that i think would be very beneficial to those who are moving forward.
• 34:30
  Now, I put together a small list.
• 34:32
  Well, I say it's 10. It's 10 things that I think are going to be very beneficial.
• 34:35
  So starting with number one, here we go, folks.
• 34:38
  Number one, learn a new slight or technique every month.
• 34:45
  And I think the reason for that is that ultimately, I've always
• 34:48
  treated slights and techniques as tools in
• 34:51
  a toolbox and you might not always need those tools
• 34:54
  but i think ultimately it's going to help with for me my
• 34:58
  creativity and also help me to expand my repertoire
• 35:01
  i've started putting together some really cool card effects and what i'm trying
• 35:07
  to figure out more now is i'm trying to figure out how to gaff things more and
• 35:13
  how to how to find different ways to like strip cards out and different things like that.
• 35:20
  And it's a very minor thing, but just for example, I want to be able to hold
• 35:23
  the deck and just like this, be able to strip out like a slug of cards for an effect.
• 35:31
  And yes, I can do it with a cull or just by doing something nonchalant or a
• 35:35
  couple of passes of just going through the cards, but I don't want it to be that.
• 35:39
  I want it to be something that's like, I didn't even see when he did that.
• 35:42
  And I just feel like that'll be an extra level of stuff. So I'm learning new
• 35:45
  techniques, new slides, how to gaff cards and things like that.
• 35:48
  Do you agree with that, Josh?
• 35:50
  Dude, I've just been reading Ozzy Wynn's repertoire too.
• 35:54
  And it has an exact thing of what you're talking about. And I wonder if that's
• 35:59
  what you've been learning about as well.
• 36:01
  It's so funny because Dooley was sharing that on a chat the other day.
• 36:05
  A good friend from New Zealand, Brendan Dooley.
• 36:06
  I read the first one on a flight back from the States.
• 36:09
  And basically the first one, I was like, oh, the 20 ways to do ACON.
• 36:13
  And then he goes, oh, no, this one is the 20 ways to do the card inside box,
• 36:17
  like the folded card inside box.
• 36:20
  I mean, that is a chapter in there for sure, but like there's so much other stuff as well.
• 36:25
  One of them being what you're explaining, how you could strip a slug out from
• 36:29
  any shuffle deck, like, sorry, from your deck.
• 36:32
  We will talk about that after the show. 100%. But yes, learning,
• 36:37
  that's why I got the book.
• 36:38
  I want to learn a new slight a month.
• 36:41
  And I agree. I agree. In fact, I will share a couple of things later on.
• 36:45
  The second thing, number two, polish and refine one signature routine.
• 36:51
  So I have certain routines that I am putting together and I have the luxury
• 36:59
  of performing them regularly,
• 37:00
  but I'm really trying to trim the fat as much as possible and in order to give
• 37:06
  it the ultimate magic effect.
• 37:07
  And so for me, it requires a lot
• 37:11
  of experimentation and the many different versions of performing stuff.
• 37:15
  So I guess that if I was going to share this advice to anybody else,
• 37:19
  I would say, choose one of your go-to effects and focus on making it perfect.
• 37:25
  Like how do better the timing, better the scripting and better the audience
• 37:30
  management or optimize.
• 37:31
  For me, it's like optimizing the audience management. There's a couple of things
• 37:35
  that I do that would work better if I just had somebody to my right,
• 37:40
  just so I can show them something and be like, think of one of these cards.
• 37:43
  Yeah. And then just throw the deck away.
• 37:46
  And I can just do things of that nature that are better. I have been experimenting with this recently.
• 37:50
  And I was like, okay, I got a situation where I've got a person to my left and
• 37:53
  right. And I can do this effect for everyone in front of them.
• 37:56
  And they didn't speak English. And I was like, crap. So that was something that I had to learn.
• 38:00
  So I'm going to go, right. I had the intention of doing this act or this routine rather.
• 38:05
  But unfortunately, it didn't come out. But if I didn't have the mindset of focusing
• 38:10
  on a go-to effect and trying to make it absolutely perfect.
• 38:16
  I wouldn't have found these problems
• 38:19
  or had these failures slash learning situations, lessons, if you will.
• 38:25
  Yeah, that's solid. I got nothing to add there. It's great.
• 38:31
  All right. Number three, read a classic magic book.
• 38:34
  I think revisiting foundational works in magic like Card College,
• 38:39
  for me, like it's Bobo's Modern Coin Magic.
• 38:42
  I like to revisit maximum
• 38:45
  entertainment every now and again now i don't need to do this in such
• 38:48
  a way that like i read it from back to front but i
• 38:51
  do tend to flick through things so even last night i wanted to have an early
• 38:55
  night and i just i just couldn't sleep so i i ripped out by my bed i got a whole
• 39:00
  pile of books but i just reached over and i grabbed strong magic well first
• 39:04
  i was reading designing miracles and as i was reading the foreword written by
• 39:08
  wit hayden i decided to it
• 39:10
  was mentioning some stuff in strong magic and i and i kind of felt like i didn't,
• 39:15
  retain enough from strong magic so i decided to reread it and as i was going
• 39:17
  through i actually came across something that you kind of mentioned earlier
• 39:20
  about your chat about like the authenticity of your of your character and so
• 39:25
  forth and this was a really funny line that i read in this book and it says
• 39:28
  here as a magician you should seriously take the old gag that the secret to success is sincerity.
• 39:34
  And once you learn to fake that, you got it made.
• 39:37
  And I was like, that's funny. That's really funny.
• 39:44
  Yeah. But it's those little things that you sort of go like,
• 39:47
  yeah, it's just these little reminders of going back through books to do that.
• 39:52
  So, you know, know where you came from to know where you're going.
• 39:57
  And Bobo's Modern Coin Magic is just a good reminder every time.
• 40:02
  Books Separate to magic, I have read a ton of sales books, mainly because I
• 40:11
  created a keynote called The Magic of Sales, which I was doing for a while.
• 40:15
  And once you read enough of them, you start to realize they're all saying the
• 40:19
  same principles because they obviously work.
• 40:22
  But sometimes you do need to just be re-familiarized with those same plots again.
• 40:29
  So when I was flying back from New Zealand after Christmas, I was like,
• 40:33
  you know what, instead of watching movies and just...
• 40:36
  Zoning out for this four hours, I'm going to buy a book and I'm going to read
• 40:40
  that goddamn thing and see what comes out of it.
• 40:42
  And so I picked up the diary of a CEO by Stephen Bartlett.
• 40:47
  And I've listened to a ton of his podcasts, but I was skimming through the start
• 40:53
  of this book and just from looking at the titles of the chapters,
• 40:57
  I was like, all right, this is going to be some good stuff.
• 41:00
  So I'll just share like one little quote that he has in here and maybe it'll
• 41:06
  prompt you to want to get the book as well.
• 41:08
  It has so many great tips for like how to look after your clients.
• 41:13
  Cause essentially one of my goals this year is to really focus on like just
• 41:18
  treating my clients that book me as great as possible.
• 41:23
  What things can I do, you know, to make sure that they also want to have me again.
• 41:28
  They can have me again. And just like, how can I just give them the best experience of booking me?
• 41:33
  Anyway, a little thing they have in here is this thing called the psychological moonshot.
• 41:40
  And the thing I circled was, and I'll explain what it is, but he goes,
• 41:43
  a psychological moonshot is relatively small.
• 41:46
  It's a small investment that drastically improves the perception of something.
• 41:51
  And so what he explains was he has this hairdresser that comes to his house to do his hair.
• 41:57
  And he's had him for like two years. And then one day he felt like the hairdress,
• 42:04
  was trying to rush his haircut because he just kind of finished the haircut
• 42:08
  and was like, okay, you're done.
• 42:10
  And he's like, hang on. That felt like you don't care about me today.
• 42:14
  It felt like he kind of rushed what you're doing.
• 42:17
  But he looked at his watch and he's like, oh no, he spent the same amount of time he always does.
• 42:22
  And then he was like looking at his hair and he's like oh no my haircut is perfect,
• 42:27
  so why do I feel like you rushed my haircut and then he asked him he's like.
• 42:34
  You did my hair great and you spent the same amount of time,
• 42:36
  but why do I feel like you were like trying to quickly get through my haircut?
• 42:41
  And then the hairdresser laughed. He's like, oh my God, that's so funny.
• 42:45
  He's like, I totally forgot to do, he calls it something else,
• 42:49
  the hairdresser, but he's like, I totally forgot to do my final check that makes
• 42:53
  clients feel like I'm spending that extra time with them.
• 42:55
  And he's like, normally what I do with you is I go,
• 42:58
  okay I think you're done but let me just quickly look
• 43:01
  and he's like and I pretend to cut little
• 43:04
  extra little bits here and there as I look
• 43:07
  through your hair I'm not doing anything but I'm just like doing
• 43:11
  a final check is what he calls it and then he'll say ah and now you're done
• 43:16
  so he literally does nothing physically different but he does this little thing
• 43:21
  called a moonshot which is just a tiny investment that really has no difference
• 43:26
  in the experience but it makes them feel like you've just spent this extra attention.
• 43:31
  And I thought that was freaking genius. And then, so when I relate that back
• 43:36
  to my own work, what I'm going to do from now on is I'm going to finish my gig.
• 43:44
  Normally I always go overtime anyway, just naturally because I enjoy the job,
• 43:48
  but that's a good thing to do in business, give them extra value.
• 43:51
  But now imagine you go, you've done your gig, you've spent that extra time.
• 43:55
  And then you go to the client, you thank them and then you go oh actually that
• 43:59
  person didn't get to see quite enough magic i'm gonna go show them one
• 44:02
  more thing but then i'll thank you so much for having me i'm just gonna go do
• 44:05
  one more great idea that's like a little moonshot
• 44:08
  in what he's talking about this little psychological thing i
• 44:12
  think that's going to have a massive impact and it really changes nothing else
• 44:15
  that you have to physically do that's a
• 44:18
  much better idea what i tend to do is i go hey i'm sorry i know
• 44:22
  i went over time i was just having a great time i hope you don't mind no thanks
• 44:25
  for sticking around do we need to pay you more absolutely no i had the best time
• 44:28
  you're kidding me thank you so much for having me hope to see you next year
• 44:31
  but your method i think is way better i think it's worth trying yeah i read
• 44:35
  it in the book you put on you know on time you basically put like a framing
• 44:39
  around like oh wait i think i oh i'm about to head off but i promised gavin
• 44:44
  that i would show me one more before i leave but i just wanted to say goodbye
• 44:46
  in case i don't catch you later,
• 44:48
  oh cool who's that oh some guy over there you don't know him i mean shit to
• 44:51
  me but like that's that's a really cool way of framing it man,
• 44:55
  Yeah, let's try it and see what happens. And then just leave.
• 45:00
  And then just leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you don't do anything.
• 45:03
  It's just a dual reality.
• 45:05
  Yeah, it's like I'm going to do one. Yeah, no, thank you for having me.
• 45:08
  I'm just going to do one more lap of the room just to make sure I have shown
• 45:11
  everyone magic. Like it could just be that, you know? Yeah.
• 45:15
  Yeah. And so this book is ton of little things like that.
• 45:18
  These little psychological things that just let the client know that you care
• 45:21
  and stuff like that. And so good. So good.
• 45:25
  Diary of a ceo all right so we're up to what are
• 45:27
  we up to number number three okay number four number
• 45:31
  four number four is keep performing for
• 45:34
  new audiences regularly now that
• 45:38
  is one thing i'm trying to maintain i have the luxury of doing that through
• 45:41
  my residencies but what i mean by that is that something that i do but i think
• 45:45
  it's something worth sharing now the beauty of doing my residences is that because
• 45:49
  of each location and the times that i perform them in i have the privilege for
• 45:53
  performing for different groups, such as seniors,
• 45:56
  children, families,
• 45:58
  annoying Eshes, and how to deal with those kids, all manner of different types of people.
• 46:05
  I most recently was performing at Chadston, which is our very big,
• 46:11
  I think it's the largest shopping mall or something in some hemisphere.
• 46:14
  There's a lot of money in there. It's a very cool place.
• 46:16
  But there was this one family that was going through and one
• 46:19
  particular man that they were bogan as all get
• 46:22
  out and to the point where he was like literally it was upsetting people staff
• 46:27
  members specifically and so i see situations like this and i choose to involve
• 46:32
  myself to distract them or when i say distract them gain their attention and
• 46:36
  maintain them from bothering other people old mate comes.
• 46:44
  And I'm doing stuff, and his reactions are great, but they are very vocal with foul language.
• 46:54
  And I'm going, whoa, my guy, there's children present. The kids went,
• 47:00
  that's okay, we know him.
• 47:02
  And I go, that may be, child, but we're in what's called a public place.
• 47:08
  And that sort of thing doesn't really fly here, my guy.
• 47:11
  Mind your language. and then he was the most tame,
• 47:15
  lovely, pleasant guy that was just thankful to see Pawsome Magic and his family
• 47:20
  having a great time and they were all lovely and the kids were great and the
• 47:24
  parents were like on the kids to make sure they were behaving themselves and everything was great.
• 47:28
  They were actually really nice people but they just were a bit loose.
• 47:31
  Well, Bads was loose. The rest of them were good eggs. It goes to show what
• 47:34
  bad apples can do but I think that those are the things super important.
• 47:38
  Now, number five, I've stopped doing this.
• 47:42
  So i've used to do this every performance stage
• 47:46
  performance especially my roving stuff not so much
• 47:49
  but i used to record and review every performance
• 47:52
  i used to do on stage i think scotty scotty
• 47:56
  link mentioned this earlier in the chat and yes you are 100 correct
• 47:59
  it is the best
• 48:03
  way to improve your show because i'm my biggest
• 48:06
  critic like if somebody tries to give me hey
• 48:09
  man if you want some notes let me know i'm like no no your notes will
• 48:11
  be three and mine will be three books worth
• 48:14
  of notes on how to improve myself don't worry
• 48:17
  about what you have to say like no one's harder than me than me and that's
• 48:22
  one of the things that i've kind of stopped doing whenever i'm doing my stage performances now
• 48:25
  by all means record them not always because i've got to record it because i
• 48:28
  need it for promo but record it because you just want to review what you're
• 48:32
  doing some people only record their audio they'll just put their phone on record
• 48:37
  and put it by the speakers and just recall what they're saying cool idea that's fine.
• 48:43
  And some people want to see everything and just put a camera at the back of
• 48:46
  the room. I think that's essential. Josh, I know that you've got some thoughts on this.
• 48:50
  I mean, I do film every show a lot because I want to capture those one-off moments
• 48:57
  that I'll use to post on social.
• 48:59
  But it means that I am watching back every show that I do.
• 49:03
  And that's what has helped me create those moments that are fun to watch.
• 49:07
  Because for a very long time, when I first started, I hated watching myself.
• 49:11
  And you know that's a bit of a red flag if that
• 49:14
  does happen so yeah and
• 49:17
  you just notice stuff like oh why
• 49:20
  am I standing still for so long during this one thing for example you know I
• 49:25
  thought there was so much happening that I could do that and it wouldn't matter
• 49:30
  but you know if the audience is staring at you and I'm just standing sideways
• 49:34
  for so long like why aren't I doing that or like Like, you know, I'll notice myself.
• 49:38
  The biggest thing is I'll notice myself fumbling with props, like unnecessarily.
• 49:43
  Like, whereas when you watch it back on video, I'm like, so easy example,
• 49:47
  I do a bottle production and then what I had been doing was I do the product bottle production.
• 49:54
  Then as I'm talking, I would go and sit it down on a table, come back to the
• 49:58
  front and then say, now for the next thing, I'm going to borrow whatever, $50.
• 50:04
  And then I go out to the audience to find it. but then it occurred to me like
• 50:08
  why the hell don't I just keep holding that bottle while I then go into the
• 50:13
  next segue like why am I walking away to come back to then go out to the audience.
• 50:18
  So now I stand there I talk do all the jokes it's so much more seamless now
• 50:24
  I hit my music cue and as I'm walking off stage to find the person I just sit
• 50:29
  it down and like that's such a little,
• 50:32
  detail that now watching back, it's like a little more aesthetically pleasing to see that happen.
• 50:37
  So those little things help so much to watch it back and realize,
• 50:41
  but you know, and you'll just do that every show. There'll be a million things
• 50:44
  you can tweak. It's great.
• 50:46
  Exactly right exactly right my dude and you know it's those sort of things where,
• 50:52
  like when i when i mentioned earlier like i just want to have a technique where i could
• 50:54
  just strip out a bank of cards it's things like that
• 50:57
  where like you're not just going hey guys how
• 51:00
  are we and just like then all of a sudden you're disengaged with your audience like
• 51:03
  nothing is that's just not the customer experience i want
• 51:06
  to give yes it's a method but there's a reason why i
• 51:09
  the way i am and why i have like not the
• 51:12
  the the the gravitas and
• 51:14
  the performance where i can demand people's attention because
• 51:17
  i'm giving them all my attention and not giving it all to the deck you
• 51:20
  know to set things up and stuff and don't get me wrong like i'll stack i'll
• 51:23
  stack a deck when i break the fourth wall i'll do little
• 51:26
  things where i'll turn to my audience and go like what's what i do for a living what do
• 51:29
  you guys do and as they're doing that i'm just culling everything i need for
• 51:32
  the next trick i'm like oh yeah cool you know what do you do i'm a plumber cool
• 51:35
  you like go-karting what yeah and you go down green pipes and collect coins
• 51:39
  or mario jokes that's right i do mario jokes ready to do the trick i'm all set
• 51:44
  like that's literally an interaction I had on Saturday night.
• 51:47
  So those things are important and
• 51:48
  I'm not doing it enough and I'm being accountable for it. So thank you.
• 51:54
  Number six, create original routines. The reason I say that is it's a nice way
• 52:01
  to challenge yourself and it
• 52:03
  allows you to inject your own persona and personality into your routines.
• 52:07
  One of the things that I think that allowed me
• 52:10
  to get a leg up in the industry in Oz and be
• 52:13
  invited to do things like lectures both in australia
• 52:17
  and abroad is the fact that i do original stuff and that i have routines that
• 52:22
  i've learned techniques and and whatever else and and perform them you can't
• 52:28
  really be a lecturer if you're going out there and performing everyone else's
• 52:31
  material it's not really.
• 52:35
  You know you can't be a touring band as a cover band but if you're an original
• 52:39
  band you can go and do a tour and that's the way i think about it because i used to be in a band,
• 52:49
  and that's the reason i think about it like that way it's exactly the reason
• 52:53
  why so i i implore you to not always like i mean by all means do routines you've
• 52:58
  been doing like you can do let's just say very primitively like gregory wilson's
• 53:02
  coins across using the goshman pinch by all means you You can use that technique,
• 53:08
  but do it your own way.
• 53:09
  Change one phase. Change one phase. All of a sudden, it becomes yours and the way you do it.
• 53:16
  I recommend that. Now, going into the next one, number seven,
• 53:20
  learn another discipline.
• 53:22
  Now, we kind of spoke about this briefly earlier, but let's take a deep dive
• 53:25
  into it. Now, what I mean by learning another discipline, what I mean is something outside of magic.
• 53:30
  Study acting, comedy, storytelling, improvisation, something that's going to
• 53:36
  enhance your performance skill.
• 53:38
  Learn clowning. Learning things from Avner was the most beneficial thing to me.
• 53:42
  Learning how to control breath is so important. I see people perform and they're
• 53:47
  holding their breath in because they're nervous and it just holds tension.
• 53:50
  But if they just, I'm like, dude, exhale, what exhale just.
• 53:53
  And all of a sudden their shoulders drop and they're not puffed in their chest
• 53:56
  and they're not holding in this, this tension.
• 53:59
  Breathe, breathe for God's sake, breathe.
• 54:02
  Like you're making me tense because it's going to be like, again,
• 54:06
  Scotty wants to learn a didgeridoo by all means, dude.
• 54:09
  When I was in a band, I literally, the first show I ever did,
• 54:12
  I performed with a bunch of guys with didgeridoos on stage.
• 54:15
  It was great. We played Green Day When I Come Around, and they played the bass line in the background.
• 54:19
  I was sick. I then met that cat like 20 years later, long story short.
• 54:24
  But learning other disciplines are important.
• 54:26
  One of the things I've read most recently that was very beneficial is a book by Keith Johnson.
• 54:32
  It's a very short book, but it's called Improv. And it's about how to basically
• 54:37
  interact and improvise in situations.
• 54:41
  He does it in the form of acting. I think it can be
• 54:44
  done in the form of just pitter-patter with
• 54:47
  your audience the very
• 54:50
  first thing he mentions in that book is status and whenever
• 54:53
  you do any scene you need to establish status and it doesn't mean that you have
• 54:58
  to be the alpha or you have to be the most important thing in the room for me
• 55:02
  very primitively I will come to a couple for example and I will address the
• 55:06
  woman as her majesty what is your name your majesty and all of a sudden she's
• 55:10
  oh I'm Farrah And I'm like, wonderful.
• 55:13
  And then I go, say, say hi, Sarah. And the guy was like, hi,
• 55:15
  Sarah. And I go, what is your name? Handsome Stone is like, I'm Gavin.
• 55:18
  And I'm like, say hi, Gavin.
• 55:19
  She's like, hi, Gavin. And I go, I think she likes you, Gavin.
• 55:22
  And then he laughs like, yeah.
• 55:25
  And if they're on a first date, like that just sets it up, man.
• 55:28
  Like that just sets it up. And because I've been jazzing a lot,
• 55:31
  I've started putting together routines in which it's like they do routines and they're both in sync.
• 55:39
  Just look at a car. Don't say what it is. Did you see one? Cool deal.
• 55:42
  Take one from the deck, classic force. Boom.
• 55:43
  What card are you thinking, man? I'm thinking the eight of halves.
• 55:45
  What did you get? And I'm like, oh my God, you're so in sync. That's crazy.
• 55:49
  And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my God, we are. And then he's like,
• 55:52
  thanks for being my wingman, Mr. Magic.
• 55:54
  And you kind of go from there. Now, if I hadn't done things and read other books
• 55:58
  to influence the way I perform it, it wouldn't have led me down these paths,
• 56:02
  into these routines, into these scenarios where I walk into a situation,
• 56:06
  find a way to control it, and make it the best thing possible.
• 56:10
  So that's why I say, read those things. Read the diary of a CEO.
• 56:15
  Read different things that are going to learn different things that are going to help you. Josh?
• 56:20
  Yeah read read read yeah number eight support the magic community.
• 56:28
  Attend a magic convention hang out at
• 56:31
  a magic club collaborate with local magicians fellow
• 56:34
  magicians whoever it might be build connections that's so important
• 56:36
  you know one of the i mean mr james was
• 56:39
  just here earlier like he now works for a
• 56:42
  megan the same company that i built with nathan
• 56:45
  hedger that was just two venues in australia and
• 56:48
  now all over australia this is a result of us
• 56:51
  being able to contact him reach through different communities make
• 56:54
  different contacts all across the planet go to magic
• 56:57
  live connect with other magicians in the states and start
• 57:00
  employing them like that's what community
• 57:04
  is about having this community in which we can offer
• 57:07
  advice that you like take on
• 57:10
  board and build careers look at like scotty p's doing shows
• 57:13
  you know what i mean our good friend the christian magician out there
• 57:16
  doing shows like these are all really cool things and i think that we're
• 57:19
  we're stronger together and as
• 57:23
  long as we do it with the intent of bettering each other
• 57:26
  and and we generally care about each other i think that we're all going to be
• 57:30
  great i mean magic community in some places and we spoke about this briefly
• 57:35
  and we're going to go over time in this episode but josh we we've been around
• 57:39
  other communities where there's been a huge level of toxicity in different communities.
• 57:45
  I've seen it across different countries. It just doesn't work out well.
• 57:50
  Anyone who is anti-magic or anti-someone doing well and they try to project that,
• 57:57
  that person who does that never really quite does as well as the person that
• 58:02
  just is supportive and treats it with love as opposed to the slander and the
• 58:08
  bad talk and the back talk and things like that.
• 58:11
  I can't understand why communities are like that.
• 58:15
  Yeah i and i don't think magic is special
• 58:18
  for that i think that happens in in every industry right
• 58:21
  but yeah i guess you know you try
• 58:24
  and cut that out as quick as you can but sometimes
• 58:28
  people it's just egos get in the way right because
• 58:31
  yeah you're told every time you perform you're the best magician i've ever seen
• 58:35
  you're the best and but then you're like hang on how come that person's more
• 58:38
  successful than me i can do ambitious card as well and then this sort of tension
• 58:43
  builds up and rather than just helping everyone because there's more more for
• 58:47
  everyone than you could handle,
• 58:49
  and so yeah it does definitely yeah tim tim says jealousy exactly right like
• 58:55
  yeah i i've talked about this on a podcast before i thought in the beginning
• 59:00
  when i was first getting into magic and i would go to the magic clubs and stuff
• 59:03
  and we're all sort of learning the same like we're all the same level we're
• 59:07
  all not really doing stuff i thought,
• 59:10
  if I became a professional, like a full-time magician, like everyone would celebrate
• 59:14
  that and they'd be like, yeah, he did it.
• 59:17
  But actually people start talking to you less because they're like,
• 59:21
  fuck, that guy's fucking making money from magic.
• 59:23
  What the hell? Why aren't I doing that? And then they start to throw out little
• 59:28
  nitpicks at stuff you put out.
• 59:30
  And none of that, by the way, none of that happens to me now,
• 59:33
  but I'm not hanging out at the magic clubs and stuff.
• 59:38
  I'm hanging out with my peers. like nick hey
• 59:41
  over here but it does happen and
• 59:44
  so the best thing is to just sort of
• 59:46
  cut out those people because they're just gonna
• 59:49
  keep doing it yeah or you know like i
• 59:53
  always try to lead with like those who hate need love the most man and
• 59:56
  you know i remember hanging out with teller and everyone was in
• 59:58
  the car and we're driving along and and i'm leaning
• 1:00:01
  i'm like oh by the way i get a text or whatever else i'm like hey man can can
• 1:00:04
  you do friday at this venue and he's like yeah no worries cool man lock it in
• 1:00:08
  from like 7 till 10 and then Taylor turns to me and says like you give these
• 1:00:10
  guys work I'm like of course they're my boys and he was like I've never seen
• 1:00:15
  anywhere in the world that's like this in fact I had dinner with we had like
• 1:00:19
  a little breakup dinner with the guys in Victoria recently,
• 1:00:23
  and yeah I won't mention who said it that it was one of the guys who I'm very
• 1:00:27
  close with and he turns to me and he says out of all the people that I work
• 1:00:32
  for in December I made the most money off the work you gave me And I paid him a lot.
• 1:00:38
  Like I threw him a lot of work. I'm talking thousands of dollars this month.
• 1:00:42
  And he goes, everyone I've invoiced, your invoice is the biggest.
• 1:00:46
  And that's because I care about my community and I care about my people.
• 1:00:51
  And again, I don't do it for any other reason that like it's the right thing to do.
• 1:00:57
  And because this guy who works for me like has this beautiful life where he
• 1:01:01
  can support himself and his family and everything else, that's what it should be about.
• 1:01:06
  And I wish it was like that everywhere because I've been in situations in different
• 1:01:09
  countries where, you know, just rivaling magic clubs have been like trying to boycott.
• 1:01:15
  Don't go to this thing because they're putting on a show. Like,
• 1:01:17
  what are you talking about?
• 1:01:19
  There was one person in Melbourne who was like that.
• 1:01:23
  They were saying things like, if you don't, if you stop hanging out with this
• 1:01:27
  magician, I'll give you gigs. They said that to me.
• 1:01:31
  And I went, no. And you know what happened to that person? they don't exist
• 1:01:37
  anymore their agency their company their company,
• 1:01:41
  their shop all gone doesn't exist because that's
• 1:01:45
  what happens when you when you try to create a divide in the magic scene
• 1:01:48
  just not the way it should be done yeah crazy you
• 1:01:51
  know so for the last two to
• 1:01:53
  go as we wrap this up friends develop a practice regime
• 1:01:56
  i think that's important just to commit to a structured practice
• 1:02:00
  and for me when i was first getting into magic i
• 1:02:03
  used to work my nine to five i would come home and i would unwind i
• 1:02:06
  would unwind with magic i
• 1:02:10
  would unwind by just with my cards i still take
• 1:02:13
  my cards on flights because i find it very relaxing and i'm not the best flyer
• 1:02:16
  but i don't know like to me it's not
• 1:02:19
  even an issue anymore with flying like i do it so often now it doesn't matter but like
• 1:02:22
  at first cards are just a beautiful relationship of
• 1:02:25
  relaxation and the beauty of that and i mentioned this a thousand times before
• 1:02:28
  and i apologize for being repetitive but just when
• 1:02:31
  you have a relationship with magic that is relaxing when you
• 1:02:34
  perform it you don't stress it's what you do to relax so go out and relax and
• 1:02:39
  make people happy that's a really nice thing to do but not only magic friends
• 1:02:43
  don't practice just magic practice other things practice technique practice
• 1:02:49
  scripting practice your presentation practice how you speak.
• 1:02:54
  Super important stay sharp and stay consistent that's why i try to read as much
• 1:02:59
  as i do when i first started doing vlogs 10 000 years ago it was because i wanted
• 1:03:03
  to be better speaking and addressing things to a camera and to people.
• 1:03:08
  I find myself when I speak and I'm about to fumble my words,
• 1:03:12
  I kind of syncopate where I'll say a word at a time, especially when I'm doing
• 1:03:16
  big words, you know, like look out for the hippopotamus.
• 1:03:22
  Like I'll syncopate words in order to make it easier to come across with.
• 1:03:26
  But that's only through all the previous things that we've mentioned on this
• 1:03:29
  list that have allowed me to
• 1:03:31
  polish and perfect and to continually do that and stay consistent. Josh?
• 1:03:39
  Jeez, that was such a tangent. I think I've lost track of the original thought
• 1:03:43
  of that. Develop a practice regime, practicing scripting, technique, everything.
• 1:03:47
  Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. It's so important. Otherwise you will forget things if
• 1:03:52
  you think you just know how to do the routine. Like what people said.
• 1:03:56
  Like what people said. Yeah. And like, it's just so important.
• 1:04:01
  Like I had not done like the homing card for
• 1:04:04
  a while and then I went to do it on stage without thinking of
• 1:04:07
  practicing it first and I like forgot to load cards
• 1:04:10
  in pockets and stuff like as part of the routine and
• 1:04:13
  then I'm like oh god damn it then I had to use other slides to get myself out
• 1:04:17
  of that situation when I could have just rehearsed and you know kept that kept
• 1:04:23
  it smooth and yeah I mean another thing I would add is like keep pushing yourself
• 1:04:28
  in magic to be doing stuff where you're a little
• 1:04:31
  on edge when you're performing because it like keeps you in the moment.
• 1:04:35
  You definitely do want to be relaxed for the majority of your magic,
• 1:04:39
  like Nick's saying, because you want to not be stressing and sweating and stuff.
• 1:04:42
  But like, for me, at least, I like to have those moments in there that make
• 1:04:49
  me be in the moment because otherwise, if I don't figure out how to get to the
• 1:04:53
  end of this routine, it's not going to work.
• 1:04:55
  And so it keeps me always like engaged and fresh in the moment and working it out.
• 1:05:00
  Because I've definitely, you know, friends of mine have told me stories of how
• 1:05:04
  they knew it was time to quit doing gigs because they would just be so autopilot
• 1:05:09
  that they know they're not giving what they need to, to the audience.
• 1:05:13
  Like they're thinking about what they're going to do once the gig's finished
• 1:05:16
  while they're in the middle of a routine, you know?
• 1:05:20
  Yeah. And I think that one thing that I thought this would lead into,
• 1:05:23
  it would be that the consistency of practicing a routine is something that's
• 1:05:27
  kind of ideal for those learning mem deck.
• 1:05:29
  A lot of people out there are saying oh i'm gonna learn mem deck this year i'm gonna learn a,
• 1:05:34
  a mnemonic a stack i'm gonna learn a stack i'm gonna learn a stack i i'm not
• 1:05:39
  nearly consistent enough to to learn stacks and never am i really in a position
• 1:05:43
  to actually do stuff with stacks if i'd be doing it i'd be doing it i'd be learning
• 1:05:46
  it so that i could do more like stage or parlor stuff but i do stuff that's
• 1:05:50
  like shuffle decks and random and resets immediately and so forth so.
• 1:05:54
  But if I am going to do that stuff, I got to be consistent and I got to like
• 1:05:57
  practice it every day, you know, or every few days and when it truly sinks in,
• 1:06:03
  because I find myself doing it for like a month,
• 1:06:06
  doing it pretty well and then not doing it for a month. And then I forget how to walk.
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  Like, I just don't remember anything. I don't do it enough. You know what I
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  mean? Like, it's just, yeah.
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  So, you know, for those out there who are looking
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  to include a stack in
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  their new body of work you've got to develop a practice routine or a regime
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  where you can actually just pound that into you i mean if i was if you're looking
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  for something specific to that put a deck in stack grab a 10 and then right
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  in the back of it one two three and then just do it 10 10 cards at a time,
• 1:06:43
  and then go you know and then absolutely and when you go to do gigs just have
• 1:06:49
  two decks and just pull out the mem deck when you decide I'm going to do a mem
• 1:06:54
  deck sequence when it's not such a rowdy group.
• 1:06:56
  That's how I would do it. Like I would have two decks. One is the one I majority.
• 1:07:02
  Majority of the time would use, get it shuffled, you know, ambitious card,
• 1:07:07
  whatever, whatever, giving away cards, all that stuff.
• 1:07:10
  And then I would have the other deck when it's like I'm seeing a group for the
• 1:07:13
  second time around, I'm going to just blow their mind with off,
• 1:07:17
  you know, hands off stuff.
• 1:07:18
  That's what I used to do. and now it's reversed now i
• 1:07:21
  have two decks in stack and i
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  do stack stuff because i've learned all these routines i can still do that all
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  revolve around the deck staying in order and then eventually once it gets out
• 1:07:36
  of stack that becomes now the deck that's out of stack and that's fine and then
• 1:07:40
  i use the other one still when i'm roving around and,
• 1:07:44
  But whatever, like I'm totally happy to do magic with just a shuffle deck.
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  But if you are wanting to get into that stuff, just have two on you and just
• 1:07:56
  pull out the mem deck when you're wanting to do a mem deck thing.
• 1:07:59
  And it could just be as simple as spreading, they take one out and then you
• 1:08:03
  cut the deck and you know what card they've picked and you say,
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  all right, keep the deck in your hand, the card in your hand,
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  name a card that's not yours.
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  And then, okay, so by association, you set a card that's going to be different.
• 1:08:14
  So your card must be red if you said a black card divine their card that's an
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  easy way to start using a membeck you know without any knuckle busting stuff yet it's all good fun.
• 1:08:26
  Absolutely and the last thing i want to say before we wrap up this
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  overtime episode that i hope you guys are getting some value of
• 1:08:31
  is to give back through magic and when
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  i thought about what that actually means or what might mean to you
• 1:08:38
  guys is just quite literally just use your
• 1:08:41
  magic to bring people joy to make them
• 1:08:43
  smile erroneous to who they are you know
• 1:08:46
  whether they're just a person walking down the street a family member
• 1:08:49
  it doesn't particularly matter but by all means like i've been spending a lot
• 1:08:53
  of time in hospitals lately and so i've showed a bit of love to nurses and stuff
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  i've made mention in previous episodes but if there's an opportunity to perform
• 1:09:01
  for a hospital or charity or even opportunities to teach magic to aspiring magicians give back.
• 1:09:09
  It fills your cup it does you know what you have is a gift gifted to people
• 1:09:16
  who deserve it and if you have the ability to make someone's day better you should do so,
• 1:09:21
  yeah and you never know what will come from that too like not that you should
• 1:09:24
  do it for any personal gain but the more people that know you do magic like
• 1:09:28
  just you know the more fun your life becomes like people like look forward to
• 1:09:32
  seeing you like the magic guys coming through the grocery store Or like that
• 1:09:36
  store that I paid for something with my Ace of Spades card.
• 1:09:40
  Like now they remember me for that. And it's like now we chat more and stuff
• 1:09:47
  because we like broke the ice with magic.
• 1:09:50
  Scott Ling says, you work to make money. You do magic to make people happy. Absolutely.
• 1:09:54
  Yeah. The reason I charge for my magic is so that I can just continue to do magic.
• 1:10:02
  Is that the right saying? The reason I... I think what I say is what I make
• 1:10:07
  is purely a side effect of me doing, sorry,
• 1:10:13
  the money I make is purely a side effect of being extremely good at what I love doing.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. The only reason I charge to do magic
• 1:10:22
  is so that I can continue to just only do magic.
• 1:10:25
  It's something like that. Anyway, it's like a, yeah, it's a by-product.
• 1:10:28
  It's so that it's necessary to live our lives, but it's not why we do it.
• 1:10:32
  Give it away. Give it away. Give it away now. Give it away. Give it away now.
• 1:10:39
  I love it. So let's have a great 2025.
• 1:10:43
  Some of you shared your goals here in the SpeakPipe. So I look forward to following
• 1:10:48
  up and seeing how those went at the end of the year.
• 1:10:53
  You've heard us ramble on about our goals, you know, hold us accountable as well.
• 1:10:59
  And it's going to be a great year. Nick, anything else to add for our friends?
• 1:11:03
  Well, as a new year begins and reflecting on the year past, thank you for all
• 1:11:06
  your support you guys have been giving us over the past year.
• 1:11:09
  We will do everything we can to endeavor to bring you guys value and make you
• 1:11:13
  guys smile. I wish you all a very happy, happy 2025 and look forward to all
• 1:11:19
  the fun that's going to be happening this year, friends. Thank you for your support.
• 1:11:24
  Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
• 1:11:29
  But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.