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NFL Week 13 Leverage Lane - Thanksgiving Edition | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear for lifting. What's up everyone, Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for a special
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  Speaker 1: edition of Leverage Lane. We've got the Thanksgiving edition. Happy
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  Speaker 1: early American Thanksgiving to all my American friends. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: celebrating with you all tomorrow, watching football, eating good food,
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  Speaker 1: having some drinks, hanging out with friends and family. So
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  Speaker 1: hope everyone's setting up for that as well. But we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. Make sure to hit that thumbs
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  Speaker 1: up on the way in and subscribe to the channel.
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  Speaker 1: Were closer to twelve thousand subscribers that I thought as
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  Speaker 1: we continue to grow, so certainly appreciate that. Got Alex
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  Speaker 1: here with me as always, mister Blickell, and then got
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  Speaker 1: Hoopster joining us for a special edition of Leverage Lane.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk some Thanksgiving stuff on the way. And
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking to Hoopster pre show and it's
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  Speaker 1: pasta at the Hoopsterville there. It's not going to be Turkey,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys know, but hoop I'll bring you in
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  Speaker 1: special guests on this one this week with us. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on, man, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in a great time of year,
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  Speaker 2: and then if you're a football DFS sports betting fan,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the best day ever. You get game stacked
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  Speaker 2: on top of each other. So a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: So Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy the time with the friends
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  Speaker 2: and family. Honored to be here on the Leverage Lane show.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great series that you guys have been putting
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  Speaker 2: out all season long, and I know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people have won a lot of money following along with
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  Speaker 2: your guys' content on the show. So honored to be
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  Speaker 2: here and hoping we can find our way to the
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  Speaker 2: winner circle on Thanksgiving. Matt of prize pools across the industry,
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  Speaker 2: I don't love what DK did with their contests, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the five dollars million and then the four thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: MILLI I like something somewhere in the middle, like a
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  Speaker 2: twenty five or one hundred. But we got to work
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  Speaker 2: with the hand that we're dealt. And again there's there's
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  Speaker 2: other big contests and prize pools and stuff on DraftKings
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  Speaker 2: and Fan Duel and other places as well. So looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to talk through it. And the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: definitely stands out, and we all kind of mentioned it
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  Speaker 2: before the show. It's like it's pretty rare when you
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  Speaker 2: have these two in three game slates where every offense
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  Speaker 2: has some appealing A lot of times we were stuck
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  Speaker 2: with like one or two shitters, and it's really not
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  Speaker 2: the case today. Like everything, every offense has some appeal.
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  Speaker 2: So definitely interested to talk through it all with you
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  Speaker 2: guys here today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you broke it down really good there.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring Alex here in a second. But to your note, Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: they gave you a little bit of a turkey on
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  Speaker 1: the outside with the five dollars million maker, not your favorite.
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  Speaker 1: They gave you a little bit of rare steak with
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  Speaker 1: the forty four forty five megamilli. But in the middle
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  Speaker 1: they loaded you up with pasta and all the fixings
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  Speaker 1: of what you like. Because I got to give DraftKings
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  Speaker 1: credit for the amount I said about the I just
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  Speaker 1: don't like the high low of it. Alex. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: you in the second and bring you in. But like
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the five dollars versus the forty
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  Speaker 1: four to forty four, it's like such a polarizing split
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  Speaker 1: when they could easily fill one hundred dollars milli maker
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  Speaker 1: for the day and how much people love it. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people would rather throw one in
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  Speaker 1: the one hundred than twenty in the five dollars, But
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  Speaker 1: either way, it's there. But they did load us up
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  Speaker 1: throughout the middle with some five macs, some three max,
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  Speaker 1: some great structures, all these different price points across the board.
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  Speaker 1: So Alex, my man, what's going on with you? How
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  Speaker 1: you doing and getting excited for this holiday coming up? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I love this slate. This is one of my favorite
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  Speaker 3: slates every year.
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  Speaker 4: And as we said, like I can't remember the last
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  Speaker 4: thing seeing where it was three good games, So this
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  Speaker 4: is it's gonna be funny, and it also changes the
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  Speaker 4: dynamic of the slate.
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  Speaker 3: Ownership is going to be more spread out.
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  Speaker 4: It brings late swap even more into play because it
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  Speaker 4: means like you can literally go anywhere. But there's also
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  Speaker 4: isn't then like a clear you know, there's there's no
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  Speaker 4: offense that you can say, oh, by simply betting on
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  Speaker 4: this offense, I'm playing this late in a very contrariant way.
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  Speaker 4: Every single offense is viable, so every offense is going
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  Speaker 4: to get similar ship, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is very awesome when we go through it. For those
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  Speaker 1: that are new to the show. In the format we're
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  Speaker 1: going to try and stick similar to it. There is
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  Speaker 1: only three games, but we're gonna talk about ownership, going
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  Speaker 1: to go through sort of look at it. And it's
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  Speaker 1: easy because position by position works well for the three
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  Speaker 1: gamer and knowing like what's going on at quarterback, we
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  Speaker 1: know it. Running back, you got the Dereck Henry's of
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  Speaker 1: the world, the Jamar Chase at wide receiver, Mark Andrews
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  Speaker 1: at tight end. You can kind of figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: But then we're going to talk a lot about how
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  Speaker 1: you can leverage the common build and not on a
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  Speaker 1: three game slate. It kind of matters whether you're playing
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  Speaker 1: one or one fifty. There's differences, for sure, but it's
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  Speaker 1: all how you're sort of building it out from the
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  Speaker 1: starting point so this will make sense. And then at
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  Speaker 1: the end, I don't even know if we culde hoop
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  Speaker 1: up for this, but I know he's tuned into enough
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  Speaker 1: shows to know. But you will pick a lane at
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  Speaker 1: the end that you end up in. We'll see where
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  Speaker 1: Hoopster ends up with his leverage lane and wants to
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  Speaker 1: go this week specifically for something like a single entry
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  Speaker 1: or a main, but some good calls last week, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you, mister JSN. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: quick note for everybody just content only. This is a
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  Speaker 1: special show this week. Wanted to add this in to
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  Speaker 1: cover it for you guys. We will have the Cash
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  Speaker 1: Game show with Hoop and Title tomorrow. We'll have the
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  Speaker 1: Friday Football Game with Ham and Naid's recorded out tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Alex and I will be back on Saturday for the
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  Speaker 1: main slate leverage lane, and then we'll be back Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: Title and myself on Sunday for the main show here
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  Speaker 1: on the channel. So again, make sure to subscribe all
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  Speaker 1: free shows across the board. But Alex, yeah, great call
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  Speaker 1: on JSN last week, just dialing it in. I almost
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  Speaker 1: got their hurts. Brown and Smith started out really strong.
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  Speaker 1: It fell apart a little bit after that first half,
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  Speaker 1: but it was good, solid week overall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was that was a strange slate. I
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  Speaker 4: can't stand how high scoring these slates have been. Because
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  Speaker 4: if you way back in week one, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: finished seventh in the in the Meggie Mega Millie, you know,
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  Speaker 4: ended up making fifty thousand dollars, almost made a million.
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  Speaker 4: I think I had more points this past week from
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  Speaker 4: Jamis Wandale Gibbs and JSN combined than I did in
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  Speaker 4: that entire Week one lineup, and I nearly got them
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  Speaker 4: in cash out of it. So it's just like, what
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  Speaker 4: the hell, man, it's been so tough this year to
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  Speaker 4: have every single aspect correct when so many guys in
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  Speaker 4: every Slayer are having these huge games.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good comment. Yeah, that's so true. This
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  Speaker 1: one's good, new guy Hoop. Yeah, we're very lucky you
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  Speaker 1: have one of the You know, when we get a
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  Speaker 1: special guest, it's not just anybody, it's one of the
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  Speaker 1: best to ever do it. So we're thankful. Imagine we
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  Speaker 1: pulled the strings here at ship a Nation. We were
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  Speaker 1: able to get one of the co founders on with us.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine that, so Hoops are excited to have you here. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know the format of the show a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but before we get into it, I want to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: what how do you handle this? I mean, we teased
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  Speaker 1: about bitching about like the five dollars MILLI What makes
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  Speaker 1: me laugh about that a little bit is that it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like they think people have more time on the holidays,
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  Speaker 1: Like you got a late swap on a staggered start,
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  Speaker 1: or you have to get more lineups in, Like why
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't they just jam one hundred dollars MILLI for the
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  Speaker 1: one day. Let everyone build their lineup and be happy
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  Speaker 1: hit or miss for one hundred K and feel good.
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  Speaker 1: But do you have any thoughts on handling it? Because
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will play, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ten to fifteen, ten to twenty lineups in that five
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  Speaker 1: dollars and then others will max. And so what sort
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  Speaker 1: of is your thoughts around building out on a on
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  Speaker 1: a three game slate like this where you have a
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  Speaker 1: staggered start.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it depends you know, really what you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to do. I mean, the five dollars MILLI has
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  Speaker 2: six hundred thousand people in it, like six hundred thousand,
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  Speaker 2: so it is it's absolutely insane. You're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to have the absolute nuts to win it. If you're
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  Speaker 2: doing it for entertainment purposes, you want to build twenty
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  Speaker 2: teams and uh, you know, put what's that one hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars in play? Like, if you're doing it just simply
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  Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes, go away, go for it. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to actually profit some money, I would avoid
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  Speaker 2: that contest and go to something else. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: would definitely look to play, and I haven't looked at
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  Speaker 2: the full offerings that they have, but like, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: there's like a twenty max somewhere somewhere in there, three
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  Speaker 2: dollars twenty max, Like you'd be much better off playing
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  Speaker 2: in that, But they know what they're doing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: five bucks. People are gonna say, I'd rather go for
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  Speaker 2: a MILLI And then what is the three dollars top
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  Speaker 2: prize is twenty five thousand, So what's that like a
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  Speaker 2: twenty x multiplier on the on the top prize or
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  Speaker 2: something along those lines. So it's it's tough. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's five bucks though, and people are gonna
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  Speaker 2: want to play that have a chance at a mille.
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  Speaker 2: But man, the six hundred thousand people up top, it's
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  Speaker 2: that you got to have like the absolute knucks to
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  Speaker 2: win it, I'm sure, and probably as a chop or so.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Well what about you, Alex, I mean you're always I
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  Speaker 1: mean the best thing about what you do is you
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  Speaker 1: walk the walk, talk to talk. You do it exactly
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  Speaker 1: the same way if you were to go outside your box.
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  Speaker 1: This week, and Jim, you know, one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: lineups into that five dollars whatever it might be, or
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  Speaker 1: even twenty plus. I don't know if you do, but
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  Speaker 1: obviously the prize pools insane and the amount of entries.
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  Speaker 1: How would you handle something like that? What's your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: around it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually considering that this week because I do
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  Speaker 3: think this is the kind of slay where if I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do it, it's gonna be one like this.
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  Speaker 4: You know, my my family's very good about letting me
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  Speaker 4: watch as much football as I want, So if I
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  Speaker 4: need to make a late swop, they're gonna I'll be
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  Speaker 4: able to do it.
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  Speaker 3: So, and you know, I like that because I do
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  Speaker 3: think less of the field is going to be late swapping.
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  Speaker 4: So many people are going to be just kind of
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  Speaker 4: hanging with family and things of that nature. But I
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  Speaker 4: think one of the biggest thoughts that I have is
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  Speaker 4: if I'm competing with six hundred thousand people, I'm probably
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  Speaker 4: not getting there by having like the exact perfect combination
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  Speaker 4: of players.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's much more likely.
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  Speaker 4: That you know, if you're think so one out of
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  Speaker 4: six hundred thousand, right, that's that's lower than you know,
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  Speaker 4: a point one percent outcome of a game. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to try to shoot for a point one percent
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  Speaker 4: outcome from someone like you know, don Tavian Wicks or
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  Speaker 4: Keaton Mitchell or Taekwon Thornton, one of these really really
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  Speaker 4: really low owned guys who's probably going to ruin your lineup.
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  Speaker 4: But that point one percent outcome from that one player
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  Speaker 4: really puts you in a position to kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: separate from the rest of the field. So I think
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  Speaker 4: i'd have some kind of rule like at least one
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  Speaker 4: guy under five percent, or at least two guys under
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  Speaker 4: five percent, something crazy like that, where I'm really trying
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  Speaker 4: to find that separation from the field that way instead
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  Speaker 4: of just trying to nail the exact perfect combination.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed. And I think that's the key way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do some crazy stuff
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  Speaker 1: in it, and that's fine too, because you can get
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  Speaker 1: crazy to win a six hundred thousand person tournament. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna cap at forty nine k
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  Speaker 1: just so I can say I have one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty uniques and know that they're even more unique. I
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  Speaker 1: think you could still get away with things like you
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  Speaker 1: just talked about. There's tons of anti correlation. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: you know, the defense versus the quarterback, fine, like all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, or five players from one side and the
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  Speaker 1: defense on the other. This stuff all can happen because
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  Speaker 1: it's only one of six defenses that have to get there,
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  Speaker 1: and it could be one touchdown late in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And people always forget that, like when the Tennessee defense
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  Speaker 1: versus Seattle and they're like, oh, that's a horrible play.
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  Speaker 1: It's like they could get eight and the top defense
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  Speaker 1: could get eighteen. But it's a four thousand dollars defense
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  Speaker 1: versus a twenty three hundred dollars it's not that far off.
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  Speaker 1: But the person with the four thousand dollars defense might
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  Speaker 1: not be able to afford Jamior Gibbs with fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: points on Sunday and the other team has you know,
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  Speaker 1: got their defense with eighteen points, but has you know,
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  Speaker 1: James and williams at or David Montgomery. He's a real
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  Speaker 1: example where it just didn't work out. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about them on this splate slate specifically, so Alex,
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  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you. First. First stop on leverage lane,
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  Speaker 1: as we go down the lane. As we like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, here is going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: ownership and what we're seeing. I think there is some
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  Speaker 1: absolute standouts. Yes, it will be spread out in certain spots,
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  Speaker 1: but Jamar Chase, No T Higgins, Late Night Hammer, Dereck Henry, Like,
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  Speaker 1: there's definitely gonna be some opportunity here. We just saw
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  Speaker 1: another tight end take down the Bengals quite easily, So
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  Speaker 1: I know Andrews is popping up. What sort of set
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  Speaker 1: up are you seeing being that we have just a
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  Speaker 1: three games later here and what stands out to you
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  Speaker 1: for starters?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the first thing is that three of
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  Speaker 4: the top four guys in our single entry ownership over
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  Speaker 4: at FTN are from that last game at Baltimore game
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  Speaker 4: Henry at forty nine point seven percent, Mark Andrews at
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  Speaker 4: forty eight point eight percent. These are single entry ownerships,
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  Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase at forty seven point one percent. The
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  Speaker 4: only guy that we have higher than those three guys
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  Speaker 4: is Junior Gibbs at fifty two point four percent. Basically
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  Speaker 4: just coming off, you know, an absolutely absurd game and
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  Speaker 4: he's probably the most fun guy to root for and watch.
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  Speaker 4: So in addition, to just what he's doing from a
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  Speaker 4: production standpoint, Like people want to be rooting for Gibbs.
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  Speaker 4: They want that rush of adrenaline as he takes what
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  Speaker 4: should be a four yard carry and turns it into
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  Speaker 4: a sixty four yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: So I think he's going to continue to get a
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  Speaker 3: ton of ownership.
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  Speaker 4: And also like, even when he's not breaking off these
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  Speaker 4: explosive runs, he's then catching six balls for one hundred
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  Speaker 4: yards against Philly whatever it was. So yeah, he just
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  Speaker 4: has so many pass to success people are gonna want
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  Speaker 4: to play him, even in a tough matchup for Green Bay,
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  Speaker 4: even at a tough price.
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  Speaker 3: Tag eighty eight hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing that I noticed when
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  Speaker 4: I look at ownership on this late is when you
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  Speaker 4: look at the skill position. Guys, there's really only one
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  Speaker 4: position where you can confidently save money. People want the
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  Speaker 4: spend of running backs, people want the spend of wide receivers.
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  Speaker 4: There are plenty of viable receivers who are you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the mid tier range, like Jamison Williams of forty
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars, He's going to get a ton of ownership,
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  Speaker 4: but there's no one that you can go to it
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  Speaker 4: the running back of the wide receiver position that really
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  Speaker 4: helps you save money and helps you fit Jumior Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: or helps you fit Dereck Henry. So what we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: see is a ton of tight end ownership, and we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna see a lot of double tight end lineups. We're
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  Speaker 4: projecting fifty five percent of single entry lineups to be
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  Speaker 4: double tight end this week.
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  Speaker 3: Or this Thursday, I should say so.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of one of the more unique
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  Speaker 4: things about the slate, and particularly about ownership on this slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't build out like a single entry hoop
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  Speaker 1: to look at it yet, but I guess double tight
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  Speaker 1: end would be, you know, viable. I think people are
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  Speaker 1: talking about Kasecki, people are talking about I mean Andrews first,
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  Speaker 1: but after that, I think it becomes like Kaseki Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: and then I know there's even some likely lineups that
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  Speaker 1: are popping up where they're just treating it as a
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  Speaker 1: combo pack of it's cheap enough for both of them
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  Speaker 1: to get there. And I actually don't hate that. I
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  Speaker 1: just think I don't think it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: surprise if we talk about you know, the comminatorial ownership,
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  Speaker 1: like you always talk about Alex where you see that
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  Speaker 1: where it's possible later on, but who what sort of
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  Speaker 1: stands out to you as far as the we talk
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  Speaker 1: first about like the common build, like what you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: sort of people land on and how you see it
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  Speaker 1: playing out. And by the way, you know, for those
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  Speaker 1: that don't know, I'm sure many already do, but who
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  Speaker 1: have You've been playing in the high steak streets for
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  Speaker 1: many years. I know you've switched it up a little
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: bit over time, but you mean you kind of still
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: that runs through your blood of what people are doing
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: and how you're seeing it. What are you seeing out
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: there for this late.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you're watching the show, I mean
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: pull up DraftKings right now and try to build a
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: team that you want, Like with the guys that you want,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: try to build a Baltimore heavy team, try to build
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: a Detroit team with Jamiir Gibbs or a manro Saint Brown.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: And you start building and you quickly realize, oh shit,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: I'm running out of salary really fast. Where's the value? Well,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: it really doesn't exist until you get to the tight
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: end position. There's not like a standout cheap running back
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: play if you're playing a legit running back, Like the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: cheapest you can go is David Montgomery at forty eight hundred.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: That's not saving you a ton, Like, yeah, forty eight
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: hundreds cheap, but that's not like bottom of the barrel cheap.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: You go to the wide receiver position, and on these
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: slates we've had a lot of three K guys in play. Well,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you go to wide receiver. The cheapest guy you probably
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: want to click on him feel pretty good about is
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: maybe Worthy at forty five hundred. I guess you could
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: make the case for Yosi Vash at forty three, but
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: there's no difference there. I So someone in the chat
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: was talking about Bateman at thirty eight, like, if we
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: get news he's in. But still like playing one of
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: those guys, you need a little bit more if you
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: want the high end guys on this late if you
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: want the gibs, if you want the top end of
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, which is totally loaded. And then you get
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: to tight end and you're like, ah, okay, I finally
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: found it. Like everyone's pretty cheap here, Kelsey's only five K.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: That's cheap. Andrews thirty six that's cheap, and it's nice
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: because Cincinnati sucks against tight ends. You got Joseki thirty
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: one hundred, had six targets last game. You have likely
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: at twenty six. We know the bengalski against tight end,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: so I like likely at twenty six. So this is
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the conversations people are going to say when they start
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: building out their teams. And then they're going to start
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: building and be like, damn, I just need two of
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: these cheap tight ends or at least one super cheap
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: tight end and a cheap wide receiver to make it
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: all work. So double tight end is just going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: be popular. And Alex whuld you say fifty over fifty percent?
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I believe it, man, because you start building out these teams,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: if you handbuild, you're going to want to do it. Optimizers,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: you're definitely going to want to do it. If you're
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: forcing in some of these spends or you're not going
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: to want to do it's just naturally going to happen
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: in optimizers. So yeah, that's definitely, you know, the probably
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the biggest takeaways we know the way people are going
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to be building teams, like all these wide receivers top
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: end wid wide receivers are getting some degree of ownership
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: from you know what are we looking at from uh
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: pickings and above. Everyone's getting probably at least thirty percent
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: the running backs. You know, Gibbs is going to get
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: a good chunk, Derek Henry is going to get a
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: good chunk. So these guys are gonna get owned. The
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: only way they get to those big ownership numbers is
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: people go in double double tight end.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree on that. One thing that's up for
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: debate is is I would say this, And it's not
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: pushing back on Hoops comments. It's just noting in general,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: pricing can be soft, but roster construction can be hard
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that that actually is possible to happen in the same time,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Like you're trying to fill a five dollars MILLI maker here,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So these.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Prices yeah, yeah, yeah, just to hit on that point,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I'm always tough on Draftking for making these slates price
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: very soft, like, and I just that's kind of not
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the case today. Like they I think they did a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: very good job with pricing like so to me, like
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I always give them shit when pricing is soft, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: don't think it's soft at all, Like you have to
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: make some sacrifices for sure, if you want to play
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: these high end guys, so I think they did. I'd
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: say they did a pretty good job on the slate pricing.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I think it works out good for roster construction, which
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: is we're saying the same things in different ways. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: disagree on it not being soft because you can play.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It's what it is is that this is facts. We
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: talked about this on every version of any show we do.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened last week or the most recent slate is
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: where people get hyped up to go, oh, you're David
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Montgomery and Jamison Williams didn't work out for you on
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Sunday and you needed Gibbs and a Monro to smash. Well.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Now people feel like, well, I gotta play Henry, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: gotta play Chase. But I can't go back to Montgomery
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and Jamison Williams. Everything they were fine with doing on
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Sunday is no longer okay to them. Like you said, hoop,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I mean you you nailed it, but just in general,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: like Montgomery is forty eight hundred bucks twenty percent of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the field wanted him, Jameson Williams is forty eight hundred
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: bucks twenty percent of the field wanted him on a
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: full main slate and now nobody wants I mean people
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: want them, but by the way, they're still gonna play them.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But i mean, like in general, people are acting like
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: they can't fit the build because of that. So I'm
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: just saying it's gonna be good for those that want
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to focus on roster construction and not just on the plays,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: because I think, Alex, I'll kick it to you on
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: this and get your take on it is. If it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be all two tight end lineups, first of all,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you can use different two tight ends. It's not like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: we have McBride on this slate where it's him and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: who are you picking with him? It's like you could
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you could do You don't need Andrews. You can play
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: likely in somebody else if you wanted to still do it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But my point being, you can also build through some
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of those guys, like you said, and especially in a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: six hundred thousand person term. I know we're gonna focus
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: on single entry and stuff, but just a quick note,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like the Worthies of the World, the Yoshi vas if
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Bateman plays. He was called full practice participant on Tuesday
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and then listed as limited but Harbaugh said full So
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I mean he's thirty eight hundred wis guys like that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that you can play. So I'm fine with it, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I especially think if you're stacking and we'll talk about
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: some of that stuff in a little bit. But Alex,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: what's what's your take on it? I think hoops point
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is correct, But I also think, like you can people
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: struggle because they want to build all the studs in.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's like you just may not even need all the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: studs on this slate three games.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and because of the way pricing works, this week
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: is like it if if the Titans don't have a
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: very good day, chance are some of these studs are
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: going to put up a very good score and you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: not gonna want them in your lineup because you're better
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: off with two guys scoring pretty well than one guy
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: scoring really well and then having that other dud. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: it's also a slate where we can get different just
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: by trying to build a much more balanced lineup and
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: not having to pay down as often, and then if
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: the paydown options don't come through, we're really set up well.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: So like imagine, if you know GASICKI ends with three
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: for twenty seven and likely ends up with two for
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: twenty five, and that's like, you know, all you're getting
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: from those real punt guys, Now you're really set up well.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: If you can get let's say, you know, even something
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: like thirteen from Christian Watson or Romeo Dubbs is really
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: going to go a long way. So I think that's
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: kind of my initial instinct of how can I play
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: this slate really well is just trying to trying to
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: really avoid as much of the pure punts as I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: possibly can and hoping they fail, because then that just
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: opens up so much for you, and it presents such
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: like a clear path to the top of these later boards.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think another thing people got to know too,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and this doesn't matter if you're playing one entry or
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: one fifty or whatever you're doing. You could be playing
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: three under across multiple tournaments, one fifty uniques here, one
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: fifty there, duplicating whatever is like obviously the two tight
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: ends set up in an optimizer is gonna love that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: because it's you get you can then fit all these
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: great medium scores. But just because Jamar Chase is projected
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for twenty three or twenty two or twenty one or whatever,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: he can have forty, which that will really help if
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: he does that, or he could have his seventeen type
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: point game, and then it's like, oh wait a second,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and everyone that's projected at, you know, Jamison Williams ten
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: points or eleven points or whatever he's at, Well, what
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if he does have his thirty point outcome. Well, now
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that just switches everything right, And that's why I'd be
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: looking at stuff like that for sure. And if it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: gonna be that high two tight end in something like
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the five dollars, that would be an easy way for
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: me just to say, like in a majority of my portfolio,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'd be comfortable getting different and just hoping a bunch
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: of lineups are going in to the garbage. Anyway, remember
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that in the five dollars, like your whole you should
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: be willing to be that's walking into the casino hoops,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: speaking of I saw the Huff and Puff game at
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: speaking of our Michigan casino. Somebody got to the twenty
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: two mil or whatever off the game aids like to play.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But when you walk into casino, you bring the money
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you're willing to lose, or you should, and that's what
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you're doing with the five dollars million maker. Go go ahead.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You can talk on the huff and puff too, because
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that's some exciting.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: That hurt. That hit home hard. Like I saw that
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: someone hit that jackpot, then I see it's it's my game,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: mine and Maid's game. Like and I wasn't involved in it. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like I I've played that game on that site. And man,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: that hurt. That that that hit hard, Like, I'm obviously
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: happy for the person. Maybe I don't know if I'm
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: happy for him. Maybe I'm happy for him the person
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that hit the twenty two million. But man, that that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that could have been Hoopster would have been a would
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: have been a fun Thanksgiving if that was the case.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: But hey, we uh we missed out. Yeah, I got
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: n Aids in the chat brutal. It does. It does hurt,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and Aids can tell you. I've sent screenshots ton Aids
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of our game, that exact game. And man, couldn't find
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the winner circle on that one. Maybe I'll find it
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: tomorrow in the DFS streets instead.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I hit the bone us on it with you guys
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that last night we were there. I was playing it too.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: It's actually a.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Fun game if you're playing slots, which I'm usually not
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: at a casino, but when there's you're there with the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: boys or watching the sports doing all the stuff, it's like, oh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: chuck a few bucks in here, and that lady was
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: so mad. I still remember just staring us down when
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I got the bonus and she just left the machine.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: It's like there's a whole dynamic to these casinos. But
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: go ahead, hoop. I just mean, like, for this, you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: got to be willing to make moves. And again we're
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: going to dial it back to single. Let you're here
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: in a second, because I think we've kind of got
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the common build. But before we go to that, just
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: from those that are playing that five dollars tomorrow. To me,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it's simple. You just got to be willing to lose.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's via ways like that where you can
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just say, look, if the two tight ends beat me,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: they beat me, and maybe I'll have a proportion of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: my portfolio set up that way. But otherwise I'm gonna
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: build for more risk in these wide receivers where they
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: have big ceilings but low medium projection.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the best way to put it for
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: someone that might be like a novice or someone that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: just you know, building a few lineups on the shit,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: or it's like, man, you want to like when you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: when you build these lineups that are going into that
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Milli Maker, the five dollars Milli maker, you should look
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: at it and be like, oh, something looks off here,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't look like an All Star team. You
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: don't want it to look like an All Star team
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: where you're playing I don't know, like you know, just
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Secki and Likely and then you're just getting all the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: studs that you want on the slate. Like it just
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: should look something should look off. Alex brought up a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: good point about, you know, including a couple guys under
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: five percent, whoever that may be. I mean, there's not
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be a ton of guys that are under five
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: percent on the slate just because you know it's the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: nature or under five percent that are playable, I should say,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: just because of the nature of it being a three
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: game slate, and these offenses, for the most parts, are
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: are pretty condensed. But you should have some of these
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: ugly sort of plays in there. It just shouldn't look
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: like an All Star team, I guess, is my main point.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: If you're handbuilding, Yeah, agreed.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I love that that's a way to do it. Just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: going back to one to three max now, Alex. So
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we love the interactions, so anytime someone brings up a question,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: then we'll get to sort of hammering out with you
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: what the common build looks like and then take it
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: from there when you play. You've talked about this on
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: another show, so like some are watching for the first time,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but just to note it quickly, if you can play
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a three max like a single entry, so that's where
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you're saying, okay with a guy like Justin Herbert, when Keenan,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Allen McConkey, and QJ are all healthy, you say, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: might play Herbert in all three of my lineups and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: just mix those receivers around so that I get to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: cover those angles. But you're playing a three max like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a single entry on a smaller slate, would you recommend
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: something still like that or would you be willing to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: go like two with one quarterback and one with another.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I know it's subjective, but just a note for somebody
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: asking what's your thoughts on that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I think if you asked ten different like really good
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: established DFS players, you might get ten different answers to
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: this question. I don't think there's a correct answer and
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: an incorrect answer. But the way that I play is
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I try to basically build like a single entry lineup
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: and then say, Okay, what is the weakest part of
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: this lineup? Is it the fact that it's hard to
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: pick the right two chargers receivers out of the three
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: possible ops. Is it the fact that my second running
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: back is you know, a really high risk, high reward
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: play and there's a good chance he fails.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Whatever that answer is, whatever.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: The weak link to the lineup is, that's what I
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: want to differentiate throughout the rest of the lineup. So
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: that's something I do a lot in PGA as well.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: So like one of my big hits this past year,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: there were three like expensive guys that I knew I
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: wanted and I was jamming them in, But that meant
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I had three like really cheap guys remaining I didn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: love any so I had three different combinations of cheap
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: plays to help fit that core of the expensive guys.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Can do that sort of thing.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: As well in Nfldfest, where maybe it's like I know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I want to play Gibbs and Henry and or she
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Rice for example, and now I got to figure out, Okay,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: which punt tight ends? Am I using to fit those
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: guys whatever?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: So that's the way I look at it, is what's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the weak link to the lineup? And now I'm going
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: to kind of differentiate that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Throughout the other two.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I like one other thing you said there too, about
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like kind of like creating your own core without creating
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: one where it's like it's very clear, I'm on and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I talked about this before. Internal external. The external is
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the quarterback and the defense that the ones the everything
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: else in between. If you love two running backs that
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you just can't get away from, and you love a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: tight end, well it's kind of like you could just
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: fill out different stacks around it, because now you already
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: have a good feeling. You're like, look, I'm not moving
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: off these options, but let me go to this stack.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And then I realized this stack could also fit it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And now, if you're right about your core running back
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and tight end and defense that you already love that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you're not moving off of, you kind of just need
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to get the right stack around it in some way,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: shape or form. And at least you've got outs at
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that point. So sticking with you.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: There, real quick tim I think like what you just
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: said is fantastic and it works perfectly with kind of
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: my answer if you change, If you change when I
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: said from find the weak link, to find the part
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that's the hardest to get right Because you might really
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: like the stack. You're not saying that, oh, this is
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a bad stack, it's a weak link, but there's also
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: this other stack that you really like and a third
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: stack that you really like. So the hardest thing to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: get right there is finding the correct stack among the
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: three that you love. And so there you're saying, like
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: it's help with the weak link in the sense that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: That's the part of the line if it's likely to fail.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: But now you're saying, Okay, the running backs that I have,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: that tight end that I have, whatever the one of
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: us are, Like, that's the part that I feel really
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: good that these guys are better than the alternative options.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But the stack that I'm choosing is just as likely
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to be this one or that one, and so I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: going to mix that one in a stead.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's my guy Tyler here.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: M N.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Hall is a member of at Chipper Nation, and he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: mentioned this a lot of people do. And that's the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: funny part. People do like to start with quarterback. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: get that that's not funny, that's obvious. But the funny
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: part is they often say, like, oh, but I kind
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of like this stack. But I kind of like this
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: stack too. If you know that those are your variables,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: even for you, and it's hard to get a player
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: pool down, I think it's good to sort of work
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: from the inside out because you'll find a lot of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: what's inside helps get you to if you can only
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: pick one quarterback, or if you are going to pick multiple,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you can keep the inner core. Hoof, I'll kick it
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: back to you and then we'll go to what you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: sort of see now with all that said is the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: common bill. But I got to clarify one thing first,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: two things actually one never Mahomes is for classic slates, okay,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: first of all, And second of all, can you imagine
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: this is the Mahome coming. Don't forget going back into
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Dallas and we've got the milli Maker, Mahomes Mustache massacre,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: opportunity of a lifetime where I could play Mahomes because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it's a short slate in the five dollars million Maker
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and be able to get these combos and end up
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: chopping the mustache off with a million bucks based on Mahomes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine that that'd be too good? Who come on?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Be too way too good to be true? Man, that
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: would cap off a pretty good run that you've been
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: on recently, for sure. If you con pair that up
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the mustache with the Mahomes MILLI maker within, I mean
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that would you might have to just retire at that point.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I've done it once before. If you remember
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the will Zalataurus days, I totally told him how shitty
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of a bet that guy was every single week until
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he won. And then I was there live at the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: event in the playof in Memphis when he won after
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I called it and bet on and I came in
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: second in the big tournament that week for like forty k.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: So maybe I'll do it again. I think I'm definitely
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be in on Mahomes because of a bunch of reasons,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a second. Wh'll we talk
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: about how to leverage the common build, but I think
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we'll go to stay with you hoop on this one.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But I think it looks like Mahomes is going to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: be in the common build. Still, I thought, like, we'll
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: see what Alex thinks in a second, But what are
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you seeing hoop as like the for sure core that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: people are setting up around like Henry Chase Andrews. What
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: else do you see anything else?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I think like the main thing is going to be
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: like if you go through the position, Mahomes is going to.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Be the most popular quarterback. It's easy to play on.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: The matchup is the best. He's the highest projected no
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: matter where you look. I mean, everyone's going to have
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Mahomes is the highest, highest projected own quarterback. You go
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: to running back people, I think we'll be a little
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: afraid to play Lamar. Now it's a three game slate,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: so you will get some ownership, but I think people's
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: hesitancy to play Lamar is just going to lead to
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: a ton of Derrick Henry ownership in a really good spot.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: So you're looking at like Patrick Mahomes, You're looking at
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Derrick Henry for sure. RB two is probably pretty wide
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: open because Gibbs is expensive. So if you are going
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: down that path of like Mahomes and Henry Gibbs, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know how he fits in there. Because people
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: are gonna want to play an expensive wide receiver. Then
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: you get I think people are gonna go one of
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb or Pickens.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: They're gonna play one of those two. It's easy to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: fit them. They're a little bit cheaper than a Manra
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. If they do have Mahomes in there,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Rashe Rice. So you're looking at Mahomes, Derrick Henry,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: one of Lambin Pickens, and then Rashid Rice. Let me
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: just see, I'm wanna kind of plug this in so
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: we can kind of see, like, you know what we have,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: like as we go, like how much money do you
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: do that? You got Henry in there? You got one
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of I'll just put Ceedee Lamb in I'll put Rashid
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Rice in there. I'm gonna put in a ram defense.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Will just put in the something kind of in the middle.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: We'll put in the Packers defense. So with those guys
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I mentioned right there, we have like forty eight hundred left.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You go to tight end. People are clearly going to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: be looking to save it tight end. Mark Henry or
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Mark Henry, Mark Andrews. Who is that a wrestler? Yeah? Man, Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Mark Henry the wrestler. Yeah, so Mark Andrews, you plug
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: him in, then you're at like fifty two hundred, so
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you're out on Jamier Gibbs. Most likely you're probably playing
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: another cheap tight end. And I think that's going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: kind of be like the common popular cash sort of build.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think that's a very common
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: path that a lot of people are going to start on.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And then you're left with figuring out three spots. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: don't really don't give a shit about defense. You're left
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: with finding a running back, probably a cheap wide receiver,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and then a cheap flex and you might get one
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: more spend out of that. What do you want to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: do with it? Is it? You know, play David mint
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: gut because you can't get to Gibbs. Maybe that's the movie.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: You put Montgomery in that team, then it's fifty four
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars left for like a wide receiver and a flax.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think that's the path that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: most people go.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Alex, what do you see there? Anything different or any
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I guess the biggest one for me is like the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Gibbs and Henry thing. Can people play? I mean, can
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: they yes, will they in the common build have both
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of them via the two tight end set or what
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: are you seeing when it comes to that and then
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: anything else, any discrepancies and then you want to add
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to that on how you're seeing things play out well.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: To me, I think the best answer is that there
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: isn't really a common build this week in that way
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: through the stacks. Like I think the the aspects of
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the common build this week are people are saving money
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: at tight end, they're trying to pay up at running back,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: They're trying to pay up at wide receiver. Within the stack.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: That's the common thing. So it's it's it's tough, especially
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: because when you look at like quarterback ownership this week,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: quarterback ownership and ZAC ownership are very different things. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: the quarterback ownership and the stack ownership this week I
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: think can really actually be like more disconnected than usual
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: because when I'm I'm looking at our quarterback ownership, for example,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: and I see, you know, Jared Goff as one of
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the lower owned quarterbacks. Okay, but if you're playing golf,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: who are you playing in with? Jameson Williams, I'm on
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: ros Saint Brown. Both of those guys are popular. So
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: if both of those guys hit, like, you're not separating
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a whole lot from the field because a ton of
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: people already on that combination, or at least those individual
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: plays seeing my deea with Prescott stacks, because Dak is
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: probably going to be you know, fifteen percent something like that,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: so you can say, oh, he's he's lower owned then
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: the Patrick Mahomes. Except if you're playing Dak, you're probably
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: playing Pickens and Lamb.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe you deviate from.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: That by choosing one of those guys, I think going Ferguson,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: and now you're actually on a bit of a contrarian stack.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: But like, if both Lamb and Pickens do really well,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: you're banking on separating just because that combination is low owned.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know how low on that combination will actually be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: So it's just hard in that way because like I
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: actually think, you know, the more contrarian route might be
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: like actually playing through some of the popular quarterbacks, like
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: maybe a Mahomes, who's harder to find the right combination
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: of stack pieces, which also means that you have more
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: license to get different within them a home stack than
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: you have to get different within a golf stack. Right,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Like there's no Worthy or Taekwon Thornton or Juju Smith Schuster,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: somebody who has the chance of having a really good
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: game with.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: The golf stack who's going to be lowed.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: So it's it's just a really kind of interesting puzzle
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: on this Thanks Gimming slate of kind of the difference
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: between quarterback ownership and stack ownership and finding the best
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: way to be contraing in that way.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say it quick. I mean, people have the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: money to get to Ravens D, So Ravens D pop
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: into the main. Typically Andrews is popular, Henry's popular. The
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Ravens D is the Browns Judkins thing We've talked about
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: plenty in the past, where Auto pushes that up even further.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: To Hoop's point, even when he did his build out,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: it was like, maybe you get Jamiir Gibbs, maybe you don't.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And so it's like it seems clear that I think
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we will see Henry separate just a little bit there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Everyone knows Jamiir Gibbs just had a really good game,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: but there's also people that are looking at matchups and
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: stats and all this others. Oh, the last five games
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Gibbs played Green Bay. It wasn't the greatest game against them. Okay,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that's that's fair and true. But it's like it's today,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: we care about tomorrow. So you know, just looking at
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that perspective, I think that changes it, obviously, Jamar Chase.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: But one of the most interesting things this takes this
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: part two. We'll get into it, and it's with three games,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: kind of worth just going through kind of the all three,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: but like how to leverage the common build. One of
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the most interesting things is Patrick Mahomes most popular quarterback.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It looks like right now, but where do you see uh,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: let me do it this way. Where do you see
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Kelsey after probably Andrews and Gasecki? Where do you see
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Rice after maybe four or five wide receivers? Where do
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you see Worthy and Hollywood Brown and all those guys nowhere?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: You know you don't see them. Now, let's flip this
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: for a second. Hoop when you go to Pickens and Lamb,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: some are picking between Pickens and Lamb, And we just
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: got the news from Adam Schefter that it's a full
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: go for Pickens. I know he had some stuff that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: people were worried about. Nothing to be worried about. Good
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to go Many are picking between the two, but both
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: are popular. Yet when you look at quarterbacks, Dak not
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: so popular. Right when you look at Gibbs, you look
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: at a manro Even nowadays it's almost twenty twenty six, folks,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: people don't just disappear on a guy like Jameson Williams.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: They go right back to the well and sign up
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for more punishment or what they signed up for on Sunday,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the ceiling. That is always possible with a guy like him.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: But Goff could be the lowestone quarterback. But a Monra
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and those guys are getting the ownership. So I think
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the coolest part of this slate with having all those
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: games and opportunities, and to Kenny's point here, that'd be
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: a lot. This is the thing that's why I wish
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: so bad, by the way, on another tambo tangent, why
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I wish it was one hundred dollars million maker. If
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: you killed two hundred thousand lineups in the five dollars,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you still have to play against four hundred thousand. If
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you killed these cash line off in a twenty nine
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: thousand person one hundred dollars million maker, we'd be in
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: really good shape going in early, So I'm still hoping
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: for that angle of attack, but not as high when
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: there's four hunred thousand teams left over if two hundred
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: go out. But who kicking it back to you? How
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: do you see the ways to common the leverage build
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: It could be through some certain plays and opportunities that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you see, or just roster construction in general. What's your
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: first thoughts?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Well, it is difficult just because there are going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: be a lot of common sort of builds, just by
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the fact that there's just not a lot of like
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: cheap ish sort of plays I guess, Like, so people
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: aren't gonna be forced into the same sort of sort
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: of builds. I guess is kind of what I'm getting in.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: You are going to see a lot of cash builds.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: But again, like your point, like, yeah, you can beat
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you can eliminate half the field in that five dollars
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: MILLI by just dumb lineups, but you're still competing with
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: three hundred thousand people to get to the top. So
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: it's like hard to pay off your leverage or payoff
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: your your your stands in that sort of contest. And
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: again that should just be played I think for entertainment purposes. Tomorrow.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know it. It's probably pretty difficult.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I mean we laid out the past, So like, what
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: do you do to maybe build a little bit different. Well,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the first thing would be like, no double tight end
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: because I think you know double tight end is going
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to be covered on every way, shape or form. People
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: are going to have double tight end covered. Now if
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you are going double tight end right, let's say you
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: want to you still want to go that sort of build.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Play Jake Ferguson, who probably comes in pretty low on
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: because he's the most expensive on the slate and people
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: are playing why are people playing double tight end to
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: save money? So they're not going to want to go
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: double tight end with the most expensive guy. So that's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: one way to play double tight end a little bit differently.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: If you're stacking Patrick Mahomes like you talked about, don't
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: stack him with Rashid Rice, stack him with Worthy or
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: how Hollywood Brown or some combination of those guys. If
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: people are playing Lamar Jackson and looking to stack him,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: we already know what they're gonna do. It's really just
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: three guys, and a lot of people like to single
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: stack with Lamar Jackson. So it'd be like Zay Flowers,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Mark Andrews Isaiah Likely. Well, Lamar is not efficiently running
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: right now. I mean he's something is still up. He's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: still a little injured for sure. So maybe you could
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: look to go the extreme stack with Lamar Jackson, make
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: it a double or a triple and just load up
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and say, Lamar Jackson realizes he can't really run that
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: much right now, He's just gonna throw the ball a ton.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is any fishing in that game. So it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: a ton of passes, and you need Lamar with multiple
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: pass catchers. So that's the sort of thing you can
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: kind of do. If you're playing Dak Prescott, a lot
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of people are gonna choose one of Ceedee, Lamb or Pickens.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I think like the best way to play Dak again
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: in the Big Millionmaker thing. First plick for me would
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: be Jake Ferguson. I mean multiple touchdown outside. You're leveraging
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: all that ownership at tight end. Like we know people
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: are playing everyone else at that position really over him.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: All the guys that are in play are going to
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: be higher owned than Jake Ferguson, Kelsey. I mean here
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: you're talking massive ownership on these guys. Kelsey Andrews just
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: seci even likely, like likely's getting big ownership. So like
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: one way for sure to play Dak different is start
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: with Jake Ferguson. So there's ways definitely to get a
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: little bit different. And that's the sort of thing you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: need to look at, especially if you're playing in the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: contest where there's a ton of people and there's more
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: than just that one big millionmaker where there's a ton
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: of people. So yeah, start start thinking like different ways.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: You're not saying you gotta fade Patrick Mahomes because he's
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: going to be popular on this slate, but know the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: way the field's going to be building with him, saying
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: with Dak Prescott, like we know how people are going
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to be building with him, so they just kind of
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: gotta gotta think of a different route, a different path
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: off of some of these builts.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And just a quick note before I kick it to you, Alex,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: like that's certainly something where you get even more game
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: theory to it than people might even think, because it's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like there's a two tight end bill, but you have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a tight Ferguson, who now probably has a better ceiling
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: than most of the other ones, Like he could have
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a two touchdown game. Now that would maybe hurt Pickens
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: or Lamb possibly if they're not scoring a ton of
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and he gets two of them, But that would
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: be different. And also when many are picking between Lamb
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and Pickens, what if you had Lamb, Pickens and Ferguson
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with Dak, Like that's a different way. Dak is the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: opposite side of Mahomes. Like again, people, you're playing Dak, Lamb, Pickens,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and Ferguson, and that's unique. But that's the point. While
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: everyone's looking for a needle in a haystack, you're just
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: playing different And so I certainly like something like that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I think that makes a ton of sense. I also
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: think Alex and I'll kick it to you and get
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on how to leverage. It is like little
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: things that people don't think about always. Obviously some will
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: get there, but just in general, for even single entry
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and stuff, we always talk about how overstacks can work
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: so much better because in like the five dollars, someone's
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have that random one off that beats your fourth
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: or fifth guy into a lineup from a from a
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: game stack. But in something I think this is one
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of the most interesting ones. It won't be my leverag
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: lay because it's kind of just a theory thought. But
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: don't want to kick it to you with your thoughts
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: on this. So Cincinnati and Dallas two of the worst
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Again, I said it last If
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Philly ended up coming out strong, Dallas showed up in
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the second half, good for them. I'm just saying it's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's gotten that much better. They
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: could have put more on them if they had to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: played a different style, whatever you want to say. Point being,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna want that first game, right.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: The best way to start the day is to have
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: something on the first game, have this, that, and the other.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: You could still have something. But what if it's just
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: a running back and a defense or just a defense.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: You could play, you know, four guys from Baltimore, four
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: guys and this is you can flip this however you
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: think it's actually gonna happen. Four guys from KC and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a defense from game one and call it a day
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and be like, I'm just gonna pick on the two teams.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think Kansas City does well. I think the Ravens
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: do well. I have no clue who's even gonna get
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the ball in the first game, And what if fit
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: spreads out a little bit more and it's not fifty
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: eight points for Gibbs. I don't know what to do
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: on the Green Bay side. Let me just build that
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in single entry, specifically in smaller field stuff. I mean,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that can play anywhere, but I think it can play
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: really well in that kind of stuff. Do you have
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on that? And then other thoughts on around
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: how you can sort of leverage his common build we
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: just talked about.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of been talking about this all year
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: on leverage Lane.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Right, It's this idea that in today's NFL, like because
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: defenses are doing a much better job of taking away
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: explosive plays, offenses are hitting together or not at all,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: far more often than they used to wear. It used
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: to be like, Okay, it's gonna be this guy from
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: this team and that guy from that team, and you
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: just picked the right guys from each team. And now
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: it's more like, okay, let's pick the right offenses for
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: the slate. And that could mean that, you know, maybe
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: we want Gibbs and a moonra and Jamison Williams, or
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: maybe we want Henry and Mark Andrews and Za Flowers. Right, Like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: if one of these teams scores thirty five and nobody
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: else scores more than twenty four, you're probably gonna want
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: multiple pieces from that thirty five, including the running backs,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: so it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Doesn't just have to be like a passing stack.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: So that's definitely one thought that I had, and I
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: very much agree with your thought of like, Okay, well,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: what if it's just a running back or a defense
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: that you want from that early game because that also
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: then talks about late swap and you know, giving setting
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: yourself up to get information from that first game that
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: can then inform the decisions you make the rest of
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: the way. That's just a really smart way to uh
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: to approach this. LEA.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember I think it was last year.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I fella he was cutting close. Did
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: last year go to ot? Or was it the year
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: before last where it's like the first game we didn't
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: love have like a big boy game. I thought it
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: was last year, the year before and he came out
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and then it was like I thought it went to ot.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I can't remember whop you follow it because you're a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: big lion. Say, we're all football fans, but what was
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the year? I think it was.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I think it was Caleb. Caleb was like a zero
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: at halftime and then had a huge second half.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Of the cock somehow. I think I remember the halftime
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: show better. I think it was Shuboozie was out there
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: because the kids loved Shoboozie and I was like, okay,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: little song in the middle there, But yeah, that's what
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it was. It was Caleb Williams. You nailed it, So
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I mean things can still happen that way and get
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: different there just setting it up Alex, like who brought
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: up the double tight end with the ferguson or even
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: not going that way and just using a tight end
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: with the ceiling. The chat's talking a lot about, you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: who's looked good lately and who's had bad seasons so far.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Is there other sort of things that you would do
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: or see from an actual, you know, team stack perspective.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go all the way into your
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: leverage lane yet, and any any specifics that you're seeing
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: there when it comes to stacks or setups within the builds.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure. How to answer this.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I think what I'd say is, whatever stack I choose,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I want to understand the most likely path that they
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: get there. So, for example, like Dallas has actually done
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: a very good job lately of taking away the explosive pass.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You remember early in the season, like Russell Wilson of
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: all people, demolished them on explosive passes.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: The entire game.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: They're not a good defense now, but at least in
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: that area they have done a really really good job
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: where over the last seven games they've actually allowed the
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: lowest explosive pass rate of any of the defenses on
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: this slate. So if you're going to Kansas City now
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: you should understand. Okay, if if Mahomes has the you know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the the slate winning game, it's probably because they're successful
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: all game. It's probably because of a lot of pass volume.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: And so what does that mean for who you should
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: pair with him? Well, I want Rashid Rice, I probably
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: want Travis Kelce. Why because these are the guys who
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: have the most likely or these are the most likely
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: guys to end up with you know, the eight reception game,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: but the ten reception game, and it's not as likely
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: to be Xavier Worthy having.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: A fifty yard touchdown or something like that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Right, So, whatever your stack is, I think you should
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: just try and understand the dynamics of how does this
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: stack actually get there and then use that to inform
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: which stack partners you're selecting with it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who will usually talk a little bit too just
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: about because we've talked enough about like the nations and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: stuff like that that we're seeing from the previous segment.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But from a game stack perspective, who obviously it looks
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: like any of them are possible. Is there any that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of the three that stand out to you more than
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the others, or any that you could sort of see?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Get what's the word of those you steimied? If you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: see where it doesn't go that way? Like what sort
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: of setup are you seeing when it comes to the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: three games? If you were thinking of an overstack, what
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: one might stand out to you most? Well?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I think like green Bay and Detroit will be the
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: lowest owned in terms of like game stack or people
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: just like loading up on And that's because the quarterback's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: going to be low owned there, and there's some pieces,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: but the green Bay offense continues to be you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: one of the more difficult ones to figure out, and
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: people just don't even want to deal with it. Josh
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Jacob still is a real price tag and they have
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: all these wide receivers. So that's the one if you're
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: looking to load up on a game that people are
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: going to be not off of, but it'll be the
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: lowest owned, like all in game stack situation, this is
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: your spot case. Dallas is my favorite. It's probably the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: highest doone, like all in game stack situation in terms
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: of you know what people are doing. And the one
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: that I think is going to be over owned is
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: definitely Cincinnati in Baltimore. I am just much lower on
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati situation than most people. I'm not really all
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that interested in the Burrow stuff, you know. I get
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, like, I love the other pass catchers over
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, like, I just think this could be a
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry sort of game. I mean, Lamar Jackson is
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: just not He's not right right now. And if if
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: you want Lamar Jackson, he's got to be running the
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: ball effectively and he just can't do it right now.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: So this is the one to me that I think
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: people are going to be in that that has the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: potential to bust from games games tacked perspective. Yes, pieces
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in this game are still going to get there, but
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: just all in game stack thing. I think this is
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: the one that that has the has the chance to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: bust and people will be on it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I like that call. I also think it's funny, is yeah,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the stats all show that. Like when Dallas or sorry,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: when Baltimore and Cincinnati play Alex It's been some good
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: back and forth games, especially when Burrow is in there.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I am worried a little bit, not as a fan
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of the Ravens or anything, but like from a DFS perspective,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: because I'm not as high on it either. But if Lamar,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: if the Ellen leverage stands for Lamar and he comes
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: out and finally has his big game and it's on
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: prime time and like it. He comes out, Oh I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: can't run. Let me show everyone that I can still
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's been I've seen some stuff watching where
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: he looks a little more hobbled, leaning on the sidelines
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and stuff hopping up and not doing his thing, but
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: he says he can do it. So it would be
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: really interesting to see it play out that way because
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: he's he's not low owned at quarterback, but obviously he
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: would be high. He'd be good leverage off of Derrick Henry.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: If he's stealing those touchdowns, that's bad for all the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry owners that are sitting there waiting or those
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that try and leverage through Zay Flowers. But it ends
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: up being Lamar running and running a couple in and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: things like that that really hurts all that late. It
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: could slow the game down some for since he Whether
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: they can do it or not, I don't know why
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't try and keep Baltimore off the field. That's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: been the only way to sort of even get after them.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Now it is the Bengals talking about, which is rough.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But any thoughts from the game stack perspective stuff, Alex
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: just on like everything Hoop talked on. Anything you agree
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: with disagree with there?
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I pretty much agree with it all.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I also think another thought to just kind of keep
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: in mind is when you're picking the stacks, like, there's
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: also an advantage to waiting and picking a later stack
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: just because then you have more options. So for example,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: like if you're if you're choosing one of the Green
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Bay or Detroit offenses, You've got to make your stack
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: selection right away. You have to know exactly which wide
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: receivers tight ends running backs to that you're gonna include.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: If you wait and you have let's say a Burrow
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: stack in there, you could theoretically change to Lamar stack.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Or maybe it's okay, I really like Lamar. I'm banking
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: on Lamar, so all day long, you're going to plan
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: on Lamar's A Flowers, Mark Andrews, just the really straightforward
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: way to stack Lamar Jackson. But then wait a minute,
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm way behind. I need to change something.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Let me let me get the upside of Jamar Chase
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: and the way I'm gonna fit him is I'm gonna
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: go down from say Flowers to DeAndre Hopkins, and I'll
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: go down from Mark Andrews to Isaiah Likely Right like there,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: you just get so much more Latesot flexibility if you wait,
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: and I think there's there's very much an advantage of that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: You can also do that to a degree with either
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: of the Kansas City or Dallas offenses.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Mike was talking about the Ferguson play earlier.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I think that's an awesome call in the dakstack and
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: I also think you can just like totally oversacking. You
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: could go Dak Pickens, Lamb, and Ferguson and just hope
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: that the Dallas offense scores forty and nobody else scores,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: you know, into the thirties, and so lots of different ways.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: To approach this, but I think that's kind of the
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: fun of this slate.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: And the last thing I'll say there is there are
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: six offenses that people are going to be somewhat excited
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: to play, and it's worth remembering we could end up
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: with three low scoring games. So when you're thinking about
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: how this late plays out, don't just think about the
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: scenarios where every offense has a really high scoring player.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Also think about what happens if these games are lower
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: scoring than we're all expected.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Good point, and also too, I'll kick it to you
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: on that thought, Hoop is like the other thing about
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it is most of these offenses, to be honest, especially
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that so the first game definitely Green Band Detroit. I'll
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: say the point in a second, but that one definitely
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: fits this. You just named the Dallas stack like it
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: has multiple different options. Could be Lamb, could be Pickens,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: could be Ferguson, could be whoever, and then you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Kansas City's always this way, Baltimore can be this way.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: We're talking about two tight ends already. The thing about
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the big totals, Hoop is hopefully it makes for a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: great day of football because we want some back and
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: forth games. We want games like the Giants and the
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Lions on Sunday that we just had that would be phenomenal.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Let's hope that we get that. But you could have
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: fifty point totals hit and still have the offense extremely
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: spread out to you know, versus what people are actually on.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It could just be all the different plays within the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: different games. So it's like, that's another point. You're not
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going to ever miss on everything. But I'm just saying
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: it's like it might not just be exactly what you
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: think it is. So Hoop, anything we missed on that
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about further, whether it's at a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: certain position, certain player that you're like, wow, I'm surprised
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: nobody talked about this, or anything you want to bring
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: up there. And then we'll circle back to Alex for
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: his lane, my lane, and let you have last since
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: we don't want to put you on the spot.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just think like the Joe Burrow stuff
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: might be just like a little bit inflated. I mean,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the guy hasn't played in what ten weeks. He's looking
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to be like the third or fourth, like highest stone
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: quarterback on this slate. You know, last time I checked,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the Bengals defense still fucking sucks really bad, and their
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: offensive line is not very good either, And people see
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the Borough name and just assume everything's going to be
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: fixed with with Cincy. I think Baltimore smashes them, like,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I think they absolutely take it to Cincinnati in this game.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty worried about the Cincinnati stuff. But that's
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: one spot where I that's one spot where all I mean,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm kind of go into like what my
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: leverage lane is going to be on this slate, and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: it's definitely going to be the under on the Cincinnati stuff.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Under on Burrow, under on Jamar Chase, under on Chase Brown. Yes,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with like Jasecki just because he's cheap. But
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: everyone just assuming that everything gets fixed with the Cincinnati
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Bengals because Burrow is back, Like, I'm just not buying
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: into that, And that's kind of how I will leverage
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the slate like want I think I want, you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: golf and love and dak over over Burrow today or tomorrow.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: It's just I don't know that. That's one spot that
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of honing in on and trying to be
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: different from the field on you look at Jamar Chase,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: he's looking to be like the highest own wide receiver
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: on the slate, and sure maybe he gets there, but
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I can get a manra I get over the field
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: on a manra. I can get over the field on
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Rashid Rice and get over the field on Pickens and
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Lamb and all those guys. If I go underweight on
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, not saying I'm fading Jamar Chase, but if
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: he's the highest stone guy, like, I'll take my chances
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: with those other four wide receivers at least one of
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: them beat him and then potentially, you know, more than
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: more than one. So that's kind of my lever playing
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: on this on the slate.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And hey didn't even wait and
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that's good because I was crossing my fingers. They didn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: take mine. So I was like, I was worried about
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a three man booth today. Is then he got to
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: come up with a different one. It's a short slate already, Alex.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Before I go to you, we do have to announce
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: we have two ship at games winners with no Thursday
• 56:17
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• 56:24
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• 56:47
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• 56:50
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  Speaker 1: member to get in. I mean, I think people think
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: we have one hundred members at Shipping Nation, like, oh,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it should just be the odds are in my favorite
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: we did the calculation the other day, there was like
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: forty thousand balls. It's that the one ninety nine are
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: being drawn from you know, just so you guys know.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: So it's like it is what it is thing, but
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: it was a free role. As who've said it from
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the start. Many have got in, they've had opportunities in
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the one ninety nine. You know, we're we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: do as much as possible, but not many sites out
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: there have people donating five twenty four dollars to the
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  Speaker 1: already seventy nine thousand dollars pool to make it eighty thousand,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: eighty five thousand plus, So shut.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Up, Just to be clear on that, that's not just
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: like a verbal donation to the prize pool. He said,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to send you guy this money, and then
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: within minutes it hit our account like he instantly paid up.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It's not like we're tracking charts down for the five
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  Speaker 2: k to add to the prize pool. He immediately sent
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  Speaker 2: it to us, which is very very impressive.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Kenny, Well, we'll really eventually get to you. Alex. Is
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: just funny we get that we got the best to.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: You know, Kenny's excluded. Kenny's not allowed. He's excluded.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: We're sending him so he's got too much, he's got.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Too much cheese. He's not allowed to he's not allowed
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: to be picked for the Golden Ship.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: It the invites did go out for this week, and
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: then Jay Steele asked, but just a note, I'll bring
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: it up because we did have a everyone has a
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Black Friday special hoop, you know I had to do.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I'll go to it here real quick on the page
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and share the proper screen. We did adjust our pricing,
• 59:23
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  Speaker 1: you're not in and you're not a member, forty nine
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  Speaker 1: of the month that is the final four draws. You'll
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  Speaker 1: our content for the final month for forty nine dollars.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it might have to go. I think
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: it might have to go over that again. It took
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: us all out and eliminated our audio. So rerun that
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: from the from the beginning, because we all got I'll.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Run it right here quick if you hear me now,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. All we did is we adjusted it
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  Speaker 1: so it's forty nine dollars to get a month. So
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: if you want just to get a ship at Games
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Entry for forty nine, it's like you're buying into a lottery,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: but you get all the content that you wanted anyway,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: get to hang out with us in the discord, have fun,
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  Speaker 1: get all the content that we have with the Stone,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: with all of our projections, ownership, all of that. It's
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• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: this here? One sixty seven for the rest. So all right,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: let's go to Alex. Alex, what do you got for
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the leverage lane? Is there anybody we missed it? I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: mean we don't have to leave just as the top
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: of the hour. If there's anything you think we missed
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and you wanted to touch on, by all means, but
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit different format this week, having all three
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of us on, I think we covered it pretty well. Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I actually want to start by saying I love the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: just like kind of just almost Baltimore on slot call
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: from hoop here. And I think one thing to note is, yeah,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: they're getting burrowback, but losing Higgins is also a really
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: big deal. And I know a lot of people have
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: been talking kind of all week about how much success
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati Jamar Chase have had of in the last few
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: years against this Baltimore defense. But this is a very
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: different Baltimore defense this year. They're kind of playing, you know,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: the three safety system. Not totally dissimilar from what Minnesota
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: has done in the last few years. It's just a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: very different defense. Kyle Hamilton is playing an entirely different role.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: So I don't think that we can look at what
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati has done against Baltimore in the last few years
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: and say that's what's going to happen this week. Again,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: it's a very very different defensive scheme. The personnel's been
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: used differently, so I do want to give that word
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: of caution. So all of that kind of just flows
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: perfectly with hoops call there. My elevage lanes can be
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: actually quite similar, but just a different team. I'm going
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: to go Josh Jacobs and the Green Bay defense as
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: my leverage lane. This is mostly about Jared Goff. Jared
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Goff is first in the NFL in DYAR with a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: clean pocket. DYR is a defense adjusted yards above replacement
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: it's like a DVOA adjacent player. Just individual statistic, and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: he's first thirty eight qualified quarterbacks in DYAR against or
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: with a clean pocket, he's thirty fourth of those thirty
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: eight in DYAR. When pressured, and he faces Micah Parsons
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: in a very very good Green Bay defense, I think
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: this could go a lot worse for the Detroit offense
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: than what people are expecting. I think they're also kind
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: of feeling the effect of not having Laporta and just
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: not having that third guy who can really take defenders
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: and create different levels and challenge the defense in that way,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: like rock Wright, if he plays, it's just not the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: same kind of thread. And I think that's part of
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: why James and Williams had the gooseg last week, because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: it's just easier to take specific things away from them
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: in the passing game, and the easiest way to do
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: that is by getting pressure. You know, the Giants have
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: a great pass rush, they have a really bad secondary.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Green Bay is a great secondary but also has the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: pass rush of course, led by Michael Parsons. So I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: think that's going to be my leverage lean And part
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: of that too is I always want to get contrarian
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: early in a slight like this, so that I have
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: really valuable information for what to do the rest of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: the slate. And so this is not just something that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of confidence in, but I think
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: it also sets.
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  Speaker 3: Me up well to then use late swap to my advantage.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: You have to chime in because man, like this beautiful,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: beautiful scene right here, first show with Alex and he
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: comes in and joins Hoopster and shitting on Jared Goff
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: like I am in, man, I am one hundred percent,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: and now I'm pumped even more pumped.
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  Speaker 7: That's true though, But it's like the eye test thing
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: I always say it like that is he had the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: statistics behind it, Like you don't even need the statistics
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: behind it, because if you watch the Lions and you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: watch golf facing any pressure, it's game over.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Gigi as a kid say nowadays, Gig's like he cannot
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: handle any of the pressure. So I love that call,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: and it's just true even if you just have to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: watch the Lions games, like any pressure he folds can't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: handle it the best. I love it.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: You're going to be mad. It's like if you're not
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: heard act you know, and Hoop's gonna start shaking. Hoop
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: loves this shit. This is number one take is yeah,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: like Hoop and shitting on golf forever. So yeah, I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: think that's that's certainly part of it. So ah man,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: So I love the Jacobs call actually there too, And
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I was gonna just go with like a thought process
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: of like you know, the overstacks or like I said,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: like just you know, stacking two teams and calling you
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: today and I will have a bunch of lineups like that.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: But Hoop didn't take it, so I actually am gonna
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: take it. And you know, I thought he was gonna
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: go there with his Ferguson call. But I love Dak
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: on this slate based on two things. The Ferguson was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: actually an add on that's even better because I didn't
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: think as many people were gonna get to two tight
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: ends as possible, and I can play Ferguson without even
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: going to too tight end and just have a good
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: tight end that could score. But I love when people
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: are saying it's gonna be a wide receiver picking between
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the two and then not really playing the quarterback in
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: comparison to the others. So I'm definitely gonna be in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: on Dak. I think you can play him with all
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: three of those guys. I'm not gonna, you know, do
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: it again. Do you just so much going on in
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: a three game slate, But Dak, CD, Pickens and Ferguson
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: pick a couple of them and some I'll even have
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: four of them. I just think that's gonna be key.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Everybody likes the Mahomes side. I'm definitely, you know, in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: the five dollars something. Yes, I'll play some Mahomes and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: try and play it in the mustache bit and get
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: him right on a slate. I think it's a great
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: spot in that game. I think both teams I said it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think Dallas d is as good as everybody
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: sort of thinks they got. They gave up a ton
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: of first rounders or whatever the hell they had to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: give up to to get there. I think Mahomes can
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: have a good game, but as we've seen, if someone
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: can have a good game, so can the quarterback on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the other side to push it. And I think when
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: people are picking between Pickens and Lamb, I think you
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: can play them both. So I like Dak with those guys.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I think the other thing that's really interesting about this
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: game stack is even if you know Mahomes does end
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: up the most popular, is he probably will. Kelsey is
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: down the board, not super popular, exaber Worthy, not super
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: popular at a very affordable price, Hollywood Brown. Oh, you
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: can't pick it who the last guy is? That's that's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the best thing for a short slate. Why I always
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: say never Mahomes is more for main slates and on
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: short slates we want those unknowns because Worthy could have
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: a huge game and that would crush a lot of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: two tight end lineups and things like that potentially. So yeah,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I'm in on the Dallas side in this one. I'm
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: gonna go with Dak and two of Lamb Pickens and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Ferguson for my Maine. I like that call quite a bit,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: so Alex. Any final thought then, if not, let the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: people know where they can find you. Everything you guys
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: have going on, and again, thanks for joining us on
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: this a special edition you and I'll be back on Saturday,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: of course. But this was awesome to do with the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: three of us, and with the Thanksgiving slate being so
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: awesome every year, this just made it even better.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a lot of fun. I'm glad you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: joined us.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Who everything from FTN, whether you like the you know,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: the d y R DVOA stats or the ownership stuff,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: all that you can find at FTN. And then my
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: discord kind of talking all this like you know, DFS
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: theory and we've been crushing the props and pickm it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: feels like every single time we come on here, it's like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: in the last couple of nights, I just hit another
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: you know, three pick or six pick over in the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: NBA streets for Underdog. So if you want any of
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: my discord stuff, any of the FTN stuff, just go
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: through my Twitter at Alex Blocke one.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: You can find whatever you need through them.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet. Whop any final thoughts from you before
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: we get out of here, anything else you want to.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Add, Yeah, just to clarify, dates was wondering what my
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: lane was. I don't know if I fully brought it
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: full circle, but it's definitely under on the Cincinnati stuff
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: and kind of playing the Baltimore onslaught, which obviously would
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: mean a lot of Derek Hendry, a lot of Baltimore defense.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I really like Baltimore defense here, so that'll be it's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: going to be like that in that with combine that
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: with unders on the Sincy stuff. So that's that's kind
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: of my official lane. But yeah, thanks for letting me
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: join in. Like I said, these shows, these series have
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: been very helpful to a lot of people. The comments
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: have been amazing in regards to this show that you
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: guys run every week on Saturdays, and you get two
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: of them this week Saturday. Unfortunately will not include me,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: but you know I had fun here. Glad you guys
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: let me hop on and you know, thanks, Happy Thanksgiving
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: to everyone and good luck a lot of big, big
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: prizes around the industry.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to our Manlando with a little commenters
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: is not looking at the slate until tomorrow, just dropping
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: alike and saying Happy Thanksgiving, thankful for all I've learned
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: from Tampa and Hoop over the years.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Certainly give us the defense. He's the defense, whispered. We
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: need the defense for Thanksgiving, so us hit us with
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: that before we get out of here.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Well we wait, Actually I will say again, Yeah, yes,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving to everyone in advance. Like I said, even
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: up in Canada, I'll be celebrating it with you tomorrow.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: There's no better slate each year. He's with you though
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: on Ravens D But we have Alex here and he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: probably has to go. But Alex, we got to get
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: this hoop and I just did this on the other day.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: The show's over. Don't need to promote anything else. People
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: saw the promos. If you want to join us, go ahead,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: but just noting it. Where do you stand on the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving food? And is it good? Is it not cooked
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: because you know it's hard to cook? Is it you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: got to cook it right? And it's good? And people
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: just never had good turkey? Where do you stand on
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving food?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: It's fine. I'm in on the turkey, I'm in on
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: the mac and cheese. I'm kind of out on everything else.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: But what I will say is I always go to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: my aunt and uncles, and my uncle is now a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: phenomenal sour dough bread baker, so I'm very much looking
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: forward to all these different types of sourdough breads. He's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: making a ton and you know, give me, give me
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: a piece of bread with some cheese with some turkey
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: on that that will be very enjoyable. And then you know,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: breaking tradition a little bit with that. But whatever whatever
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: makes whatever makes the day best, right.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I seen this recipe yesterday. One thing I like about turkey,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I already love it. Hoops out on it, but I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: think it's great. I love turkey sandwiches. I like the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: day after. I like everything else. We'll give you, guys
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: can throw some more food takes. We'll hit out how
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: much time you got Alex about five minutes, six minutes
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Max five? Yeah, Max five. Okay, he's not in on
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the food stuff as much. We'll get him one quick thing.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: There was this amazing next day recipe. You get those
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Kings Hawaiian sweet roll buns and you put turkey, mac
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and cheese, and then you put a little more grated
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: like marble cheese or something on top. You could do
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: bree whatever, you close it up. They were putting like
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: a brown sugar, salted butter and Dijon mustard glaze, and
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: then you bake it in the oven. And those are
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: your next day sandwiches.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Those are insane. YEA, now we're talking. I can definitely
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: get behind something like that. I actually think I would
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: probably probably say I prefer this Thanksgiving Day stuff like
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the next day opposed to like the main day, just
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: because of that sort of thing like you can get
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: yourself a nice little turkey sandwich out of the fridge,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: you know, some turkey, some cheese, mayonnaise, mustard, whatever you
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: like it with, or some gravy. So I prefer the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: stuff the second day. But yeah, for us personally, I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: told you guys before, we're not doing any Thanksgiving food.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: My mom's doing a pasta bar, you know, a bunch
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: of different pastas with some different sauces. You know, we're Italian,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: so it kind of fits into that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Leftovers are what group of really saying though, just so
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: people catch on to this, is he's saying it's important
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: to have the right seasonings, an additional add on. So
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: it is potential that he just hasn't had a good
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: turkey because he said when you add the mustard, the mayonnaise,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: the seasonings, the cheeses, all this stuffs, like you just
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: got to make it better. So this is what the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: people really want to know though, Alex, And then we'll
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: get out of here. Go ahead on that one.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Who pit that always? I'm not picky when it comes
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: to the wine. That's one thing we talked about a
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: little bit with the water, like the you know, the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: different waters that tastes good water. I can rarely taste
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: the difference in like wine like I drink red wine.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: To me, like I can, really, I really just don't
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: taste the difference. So I always just get some sort
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: of costco wine. I'm not a big, like fancy wine
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  Speaker 2: drinker sort of person.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. You cannot imagine saying you can't taste the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: difference in wine, like.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: The taste the same like a ten dollars bottle. To me,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: it tastes the same as one hundred dollars bottle.
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  Speaker 1: All right. The big one for Alex sim will let
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: them go. Need to know. So the big one is
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: how do you get your steak done? If you eat steak?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I assume you do. What what's your what's your style steak?
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't eat steak.
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  Speaker 4: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: He's on my side. Then that's that's that's on the side.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I said it, I think we talked
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: about it on the Mastermind interview, and you brought it
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: so much chicken.
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  Speaker 3: That's just abstain amount of chicken.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna get shipp on. We
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: better had this better on this dream pretty quickly. People
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: are people are so sensitive about the steak stuff. I'm
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: the same. If I have a choice between steak and chicken,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: I'm taking chicken every day of the week.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And AIDS get you with a hard one, we got
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: something we we shoot on, Naids. When AIDS get you
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: with a good one, you know I'm pulling that up,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: he said. Of course, all the wine tastes the same
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: with burnt steak. Yeah, that's a good call, Naids. You
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: got it, man. I love that one. So all right, Alex,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: thank you man, really appreciate you as always, and everybody
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: out there again, Happy Thanksgiving to you. Let's have a
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: good one tomorrow. Bring home another million maker to the nation.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: That would be nice for Whoop, for Alex and for myself.
• 1:12:47
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