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BREAKING: China Mobilizing for Taiwan Invasion (Jeff Nyquist Interview) · Man in America Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hohlhaus. So, folks, first off, thank you for your patience. We're now live. We had an issue with our first stream, so I really appreciate your patience.
• 0:18
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• 0:26
  So, folks, Pelosi visits Taiwan as part of her Asia tour. China threatens to shoot down her plane and attack Taiwan in retaliation. And now troops, missiles, and tanks are rolling through China's Fujian Province just off the Taiwan Strait and from all appearances China is mobilizing for war and in case you forgot we just so happened to already be at a war with China's biggest ally Russia a war that supposedly single handedly crushing our economy. So what on earth is Pelosi doing by going to Taiwan right now? The mainstream narrative is that the Biden administration is split with Biden begging Pelosi not to provoke China.
• 1:12
  But Pelosi is being described as a longtime fighter for human rights in China, and old videos have emerged of her protesting in Tiananmen Square. But there's just one problem. Because what no one's talking about is the fact that members of the US government and military have had intel for months that China was planning to attack Taiwan around August 1. And even little old me, just a man in America, reported to you reported this information to you right here with Jeff Nyquist a couple of months ago. So isn't it just a little convenient that Pelosi just so happened to visit Taiwan right now?
• 1:51
  I mean, did her desire to defend democracy and human rights suddenly just overtake her, or is this just a modern day Pearl Harbor with a fake excuse to trigger another very real and devastating world war? And either way, considering all the hardship we've experienced since the Russia invaded Ukraine, what can America expect in the coming days, weeks, and months if China really does strike Taiwan? And is there a chance that we're next in line? So joining me today is Jeff Nyquist to help us make sense of these confusing events and to prepare ourselves the best we can. But before we get started, folks, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV.
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• 3:37
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• 5:35
  Alright, folks. Again, thank you for your patience, and thank you for get coming back on to the Men in America show to watch this. If you've been following my interviews with Jeff look. Jeff is someone that I highly, highly respect. He is an author.
• 5:48
  He's been studying communism, especially what's happening with China and Russia and The Soviet Union. He's been studying for decades. He's written many books on this subject, and he is usually my go to person for really understanding what's happening over there. And so I thought that I woke up this morning, I saw what's happening with Pelosi going over there, all the insanities, crazy videos going coming out of China, which I'm gonna show you today. I called Jeff.
• 6:13
  I said, Jeff, you gotta come on. We gotta talk about what's happening right now because things are really heating up. So without further ado, we're gonna bring on Jeff. Thank you so much, Jeff, for being on here with me today. And how are you doing today?
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. It's a busy day.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that it is. So I wanna go ahead and just start this and just play a handful of the videos that I saw when I woke up this morning all over the social media feeds. And and just I wanna hear what your thoughts are. Because for me, it just looks like a bunch of tanks and heavy equipment that's moving around, but I wanna get your interpretation of what's happening. So let me go ahead and pull this up for you right here.
• 6:51
  Let's just go ahead and start with this. So here, it's and for those of you that are listening that you know, we we turned the the audio off because you can't There's just background noise, but what are what are we seeing in this video, Jeff?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing the video.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: Oh. Uh-oh.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: Do I have to hit the oh, there we go. Okay. That's training.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: You're seeing it now?
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's a, a train, transporting, armored personnel carriers, it looks like, or maybe tanks. It looks like it might be tanks and armored. It looks like they're tanks, but some of the armored personnel carriers, look like tanks.
• 7:34
  Though, those are, missiles. They look like intermediate range ballistic missiles being moved into position. They're transporting them on the highway. That would be if they're preparing like, you notice Russia when it attacked Ukraine, it used a lot of missiles in its attacks. This would be what they're doing.
• 7:55
  So the this is positioning I assume this feed is from Fujian?
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. These are from Fujian. Yep.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: And, of course, that's the province opposite Taiwan. It's the, eastern, strategic direction. They have five basic strategic areas, north, south, east and west. Here's the Fujian province. Yeah.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because if you look at China because I saw these videos coming out, and all these videos were saying there's this massive mobilization happening in Fujian province. I pulled it up, and, like, you know, you can look at the relationship between Fujian and Taiwan right there.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's in part of their eastern military direction, and that is where they would be massing for an invasion of Taiwan. Earlier, the information on from May 14 from was from Guangdong, the southern one. And what was interested was they were mobilizing to prepare their role in a movement in the Taiwan direction, they said during in in that one. A couple interesting things you won't hear in the news, there that in the last couple weeks, the Chinese have moved to core headquarters, oddly further away from Fujian, which nobody really noticed, which was very curious now.
• 9:15
  Were they moving it to be out of bombing range? No. I don't think so. I think that they are positioning forces. And one of the movements was to the far Southern coast, Hainan Island, and I think that they may be, anti ship missile units and military units that might be moving from that direction.
• 9:39
  Remember that mister Wang of Luda Media told me, in June that that they were gonna blockade Taiwan, but their ultimate plan is to invade the first and second island chains in the Pacific, to advance across the Pacific. So, and, what I heard, I I talked earlier today with, doctor, Yimeng Yan, and she was telling me this deployment in opposite Taiwan is is part of an accelerated buildup. They are continuing to turn the screws. The mobilization is increasing, and they are not gonna go back from here. They're they're also doing a supply chain a a growing supply chain hit on us where they're cutting off things from us one at a time, making sure their own economy can adjust.
• 10:29
  And the big civilian lockdowns, they're accustoming their civilian population to less consumption. Right? If you're locked in your apartment for months, you can't go out and shop. You're gonna be given potatoes. You're not gonna be able to buy ice cream anymore.
• 10:45
  Right? So they're simplifying the life of their people. They're conserving the resources because they're getting ready for war. This is part of a larger war prep.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: And that's what that's where our conversations have been thus far, and it was it's almost eerie to look back at the discussion that we had where you told me that a lot of your sources were saying that Taiwan that there it's looking like China would really take a strong move on Taiwan around August 1, which is I mean, this that's right now. This is what we're seeing. So, you know, what I would like to, you know, understand is from your perspective, is this just is is just posturing? Because I remember I had you on before Russia invaded Ukraine, and that was when we were seeing a massive buildup of the Russian troops on the Ukrainian border. And I saw a lot of people online and whatnot.
• 11:31
  They're saying, oh, they're just posturing. It's all for show. And lo and behold, they invaded Ukraine. So do you think that this is the early stages of a blockade of Taiwan and and an invasion? And and if so, then, like, what's next?
• 11:45
  Where does this lead to?
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're mobilizing. They're using Taiwan. They're using Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan as a pretext to not just because in the Chinese concept, their mobilization is not just a military mobilization. They're mobilizing their entire economy.
• 12:05
  They're moving see, Xi Jinping says, the Chinese people are our great walls. Right? Chinese people are our main defense. Of course, what he's really saying is the Chinese people are our cannon fodder. We're gonna use them.
• 12:18
  We're gonna make them suffer. They're gonna they're gonna carry the weight of this. And that is what they're they're basically doing now. They're gonna be carrying the weight of this. And, so this is what we're seeing.
• 12:31
  Every time they mobilize, every time they get ready, they're not gonna go back and demobilize. And, I will note that now it's reported that Chinese special forces troops have now arrived in Ukraine at the front.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Also, Chinese special force forces
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: are now troops. Yep. So there's a you see Russia and China are binding themselves together. And Dmitry Medvedev, for example, has made a very interesting statement. He's a former president.
• 13:01
  He's the vice head of their national security council, which is really their war council. And let me just go over some of the things he said, which are rather shocking. He said that Russia's going to retake Ukraine, so they're not backing down. And he says, They're taking all of Ukraine. It's going
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: to be Not just the Donbas region or-
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Not just the Donbas region. He's saying, We're going to take it back. And he says, Ukraine is a fake nation. You know, we've heard of fake news. Well, now there's fake nations.
• 13:32
  He says that Russia's going to recreate the USSR and that Russia's going to take Georgia back. And bizarrely, he said, reportedly said that Russia is going to take Kazakhstan, and he's accusing Kazakhstan of of committing genocide against Russians in Kazakhstan, which is a complete fabrication.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Is the
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: former president
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: of Russia that is now openly saying that that the steps that we're seeing with Ukraine is is part of Russia reestablishing the USSR. Right. And they're doing it in conjunction with the military might of the CCP.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Last Saturday or Friday, defense minister there was a video, and it's I saw it on Twitter. It was a video of Sergei Shoigu, the Russian defense minister, speaking to a bunch of generals and politicians. And he was saying in Russian, he was saying, we're going to reestablish the USSR. And when we do, there will be peace. And that is now they're now more or less, they're coming out and saying what I have said for years, they're gonna unite with China.
• 14:40
  They're gonna openly declare the USSR is coming back, and they're gonna come after us. And now we're seeing it. Now they're doing it.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: And so while if you look at what happened with Ukraine, you look at the fallout from Ukraine. So, you know, obviously, you know, we fought back with sanctions, but they control so many of the commodities and the energy resources. It's almost as if they lured us into fighting with them, especially Europe, which and as they're now entering into winter, you know, with Russia, if they just completely cut off the Gazprom and it's like, okay. No more gas for Europe, They can cripple all of Europe. And so do you think that that Taiwan is, in a sense, you know, their way of pulling The US into this?
• 15:23
  Is it the same way that they've they've done used Ukraine for that?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna pull a lot of things together. It's very complicated. When you have a coalition of countries that are aligned, how do you mobilize them all and get them all to fight your common enemy at the same time? Sometimes you you have to have this country go first. In this case, Russia went first in February against Ukraine.
• 15:48
  You had the meeting between, Putin and Xi in Feb on February 4. You had them make this commitment that it's know, they were basically saying it's teamwork between Beijing and Moscow that's gonna make this work. And now you see there's been reported some kind of skirmishing in Kosovo between Serbian nationals in in Kosovo. Is Serbia received delivery of weapons from China over the last few months. Is Serbia getting ready to cause a problem for NATO in Kosovo?
• 16:20
  Is that war gonna reignite? Is North Korea going to do something in South Korea? Is Iran there's stirrings in Iran as well. And then you have China with Taiwan. So these are it's they know that we do not have the depth that they have in terms of numbers.
• 16:39
  They know our nuclear forces are weak because we haven't kept up on our nuclear arsenal. So what they are doing is they're increasing pressure, and they're going to on all fronts. And this is what they're doing in Taiwan. China is such a huge country. Mobilizing it is like, you know, turning the Titanic.
• 17:01
  It's, it's an all hands kind of thing. This is why the lockdowns. This is why you know, they didn't want people they don't want people taking videos of their full everything they're doing. And this is what mister Wang told me. Those, Dongfang missiles that you saw going by on the trailers, those are just because in Fujian, they can't hide the massing of everything there.
• 17:28
  But, what mister Wang told me was they are moving the big missiles, the ICBMDFs, DF 40 ones, and they are they are preparing for full on war. And that preparation, it takes years. And I've you know, Chinese sources have been saying, going all the way back to April early April of twenty twenty, we're getting ready for war. This was in Chinese military magazines back in April 2020 when the pandemic was just starting out of China. You had then in in May, I had sources from Southeast Asia saying that the communist governments of Laos, Vietnam, and Cambodia were being told Russia and China are preparing a war against United States.
• 18:11
  And they're gonna be making all these moves. So make sure you have personnel, you know, in bunkers from your government. So in case the Americans strike at your capital, you have leadership that's ready to survive. And so they've been getting ready a long time. I'm on the committee in the present danger of China.
• 18:28
  A Year ago, May, a Hong Kong businessman gave the warning that his sources in Beijing said Beijing is getting ready for war against The United States. So we've had many, many warnings. And and more recently, the the fifty six, fifty seven minute recording out of Guangdong about the normal to war mobilization in Guangdong. So you can't get ready for a world war without all kinds of things, signs, you know, showing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And I think just to throw a big part of that in a big way of how, you know, China especially talks about their wars through infiltration, the, you know, the Russians as well. And if you look at why it was so important to get Trump out of office, you saw Trump's stance on China. You know, he wouldn't have any of this, Whether it was tariffs or the military buildup, he was a threat to any nation that was trying to overtake America. But what what we've seen is since Biden conveniently got into office, which we all know what happened there, we've seen a complete weakening of The United States. And so do you think that that also like, what we've witnessed in almost the past two years in our country, whether it's the, you know, the food shortages now, the really, the decimation of our of our army through the vaccines and through people getting kicked out that were refusing it, which is really purging those that that are not gonna be completely loyal to them and that would just do whatever the whatever Biden says.
• 19:50
  So do you think that that's part of the strategy, which is now we're seeing formulate with the moves we're making on Taiwan?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: What really bothers me about Pelosi's trip to Taiwan is the fact that Pelosi is one of those California politicians who's done everything all along the way that China wants, that the CCP wants. And so now she's sort of getting ahead of the curve to try to posture that she's for Taiwan. She's against China. That is we should not let her off the hook or any of these California Communist Party shills that have facilitated the CCP. Look.
• 20:27
  Her and her nephew, Gavin news nuisance, I call him Gavin Newsom. People have been CCP shills. Yeah. These people have been been CCP Shills all along. San Francisco has practically become an enclave.
• 20:42
  This is where she's from, an enclave of the CCP. There are Chinese in California that are very worried about how the CCP has been allowed to just flood China with their agents and, the way that they've gotten California businesses compromised. Look. It's it's senator Dianne Feinstein. She's or look at her husband.
• 21:06
  Look at the business connections. This is not right. There need to be congressional investigations of Pelosi, of Feinstein, of Newsom. Even though
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell with with his wife who her entire family is deeply
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: embedded in the CCP. You know, they have the Chinese have worked just assiduously to go after our politicians to compromise them, to get them involved in money deals and all kinds of things, and to get our business community involved. Look. They've had access to our capital markets. This is outrageous.
• 21:35
  And here they're mobilizing for war on us, and they've got all these people compromised. And and what Nancy Pelosi going to Taiwan, she's really running for cover. She's grabbing this as a fig leaf to hide what she's done in the past to support the communist Chinese agenda. And we we can't say, oh, isn't she heroic? Isn't she they were gonna they make all this when they when the Chinese say they're gonna shoot down her planer, they make these kind of threats, they're merely helping provide cover for her.
• 22:05
  Do you just should not accept it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And do you think that maybe, you know, like, that particular move, which plays completely into what you think that China would want to happen, it becomes an extra excuse to show to show aggression towards America. And do you think that a, said that, you know, she's kinda covering herself, but it could also be that she's making that move on behalf of China to give them this excuse? I mean, because think about the timing. You know? If you told me on this show months ago that it was around August 1 that China was planning on invading Taiwan.
• 22:38
  I'm guessing that you know, I'm not saying Nancy Pelosi watches my show. She'd probably be offended, but I'm guessing that other people in the intelligence community probably knew that information as well. So why would she plan this trip right at this time?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean, it would be something to ask Nancy Pelosi in a congressional hearing. I'm not sure she'd give an honest answer, but, you gotta realize, August 1, I believe, and you could correct me if I'm wrong, I think it is the, anniversary day for the People's Liberation Army. It's when, in 1927, when, the the KMT, the Komintang, general Chiang Kai shek kicked the communists out of the KMT of the of and that's when the long march began. That's when the People's Liberation Army formed.
• 23:27
  And so this month is very special. And with communists, anniversaries are important. You know? The the dates of things are important. And August is a very important month also for Russia because of the weather, because Russia is such a cold country.
• 23:44
  August is sort of the warmest month, and it's the month where everything's kinda loosened up and they've got everything running in the summer. And it's when the Arctic is most opened up for them to do something again, as mister Wang warned, a a real threat from Russia and China against Alaska. So this buildup continues. Buildup in the Arctic, over a 50 Russian bases, manned in the Arctic over recent years. We're not remanning our Cold War bases in the Arctic.
• 24:15
  The the Canadians haven't. The dew line's not back. So they're getting ready. They're both Russia and China are increasing not just towards, you know, this is important to say, not just towards Taiwan and Ukraine, but in terms of their facing against The United States, which is really what troubles me. Because to some extent, you know, you've got statements that general Qiao Chen made twenty years ago, the defense minister of China, who said, we will make them think our main target is Taiwan, but our main target is America.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I wanna touch on that. I wanna pull this up really quickly for you, which is here you've got yes. So we're right now, we're at the ninety fifth founding of the PLA. They just had a really big event for this on the July 31, a big celebration.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. And is this I think that that that this whole period here is the celebration because this is when the they began. They formed everything. They they really formed, the communist party became its own state, forming its its special state in the north in China in the mountains.
• 25:20
  And, this was this was sort of the beginning of the People's Republic Of China. And so they go back. This goes back to 1927. And and, of course, what occasioned that was Chiang. Originally, Stalin was supporting the China Republic and the KMT, And Chiang Kai shek said, wait a minute.
• 25:40
  Stalin's evil. Communism is not gonna work for us. And so he broke with him, and that's why the Chinese communists were expelled from the KMT. But but this is you know, we're almost a hundred years. You said, yeah.
• 25:51
  It's the ninety fifth, nineteen twenty seven, ninety fifth anniversary. So now we go and we look now how close they are in terms of their mobilization and how powerful they've become. The biggest army in the world, the biggest air force in the world, and the largest navy, if you count by numbers of ships in the world. This is no joke, and they're mobilizing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And so how do you see this playing out? Because there's a map that I'm gonna pull up that you had sent me right before the the video of their their military drills map. But I wanna pull this up and have you describe to us, because in in the interview that you did with mister Wong from Lewd Media, he talked about the blockade and how that would be the first step, would be creating a blockade around Taiwan. So I want you to walk us through it. What does that blockade look like, and what are the next steps following that?
• 26:40
  So here's the this is the map that you had sent me. Yep. So and and this is showing up for you, the the map?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Not oh, there it is. Okay. I see it. Yes. Yeah.
• 26:54
  You can see that there are these six areas around Taiwan. This is where the live fire exercises are have been taking place, I think, since Sunday, I think, is when they started them. And what is interesting is they're look at how they're spaced. They could pretty much intercept ship traffic from these positions. And so it's it's sort of getting the navy ready for what it has to do to control the waters around Taiwan to to perform a blockade.
• 27:24
  Because this isn't really this is a positioning of naval forces, which are capable, of course, of sinking ships, including merchant ships. And, there's another thing that we don't have a map of, and it's the the Chinese have this very strange giant fishing fleet, and these aren't just little boats. Some of these fishing ships, they can be hundreds of feet long. So they're real ships. They're like trawlers.
• 27:49
  Some of them can carry mines, I'm told. They're massing those. Have now think about this. They have 17,000 vessels in this fleet, and it's the People's Arm militia. These people, they're fishermen, but they're also members of the Chinese military.
• 28:06
  So they can mobilize them, and they can they're assembling them now. An order went out, understand, yesterday or the day before to start moving those things those ships out around these waters, further out from their fleet. And the problem with this large number is that our how do how does our military cope with this many of these small ships?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Well, let alone I mean, you also mentioned the ROROs, the roll on roll offs, and how they're retrofitting their cargo ships. Because if you think about, hypothetically, if there was a a land invasion of Taiwan or a land invasion of America, how would they transport? And it's like some people, say, well, the navy's only so large. But it's like, how big is China's fleet of shipping a big shipping container ships? And what if they're you know, what if they've got, you know, Club K missiles?
• 28:59
  Right? You know, the the shipping containers that actually have missiles hitting them that can fire off the coast of anywhere and and hit our country, you know, anywhere off The US coast? Or, you know, are they using these are they retrofitting these these giant cargo ships to be troop and, you know, tank and ammunition carriers?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We we have the you know, Guangdong is one of their biggest provinces in Fujian as well. We have the fifty seven minute meeting in Guangdong on May 14, and they were talking about retrofitting sixty four ten thousand ton RoRo ships, you know, that that they're they built these ships, of course, to carry automobiles, but they made them so they could be converted to carry tanks and armored personnel carriers and self propelled artillery. So do you see
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the photo I have up there?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Yes. I do see that. That's an example.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so that basically would normally be used to transport cargo, cars, anything we haven't manufactured over there. But you're saying that what they're doing is that, you know, under the guise of these lockdowns where they've completely clogged up all the shipping routes, that they're actually taking these container ships, and they're turning them into carriers for as part of their war machine.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: For armored fighting vehicles. There was a report over the last few days that there were two, maybe three of these rowerships sited with tanks loaded on them. Now that's nothing compared to having you know, if you if you say they have, just in in in Guangdong that they have 64 of them, that's just fraction. But it gives you an idea. They're already they've sent some of them to sea.
• 30:39
  They're practicing, you know, maneuvering with them. They're, you know, every time you have an exercise, a military learns from the exercise. They learn about the speeds that they can safely go, what the weight bears, what the what the swells on the ocean do to the weight loading. You know, they're these are all part of preparation. And so they're taking it slow, which is smart.
• 31:05
  You know? They're not just rushing things and ending up in trouble. They're building up very slowly, very carefully, and they're getting ready. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: What are they getting ready for? I mean, are they gonna actually invade Taiwan physically and and land troops on there? Is there gonna be warfare? I mean, does does Taiwan have a decent sized army? Are they gonna defend?
• 31:30
  Are they gonna expect The US to come in? Like, what what does that escalate to? What's that process look like?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: By some accounts, Taiwan has, you know, a million and a half reservists. It it is a very heavily armed island. You you're talking about the kind of defense that would have to be softened up by massive bombardment and by blockade if they were gonna invade, you know, for weeks, if not months, before the invasion. Now the ideal weather for invading is not now. The ideal weather for invading Taiwan, they were gonna do an invasion, would be October.
• 32:06
  October and April are when the calmest seas are. And, you know, you don't wanna do an invasion. And then after the third day of the invasion, when you're still pouring in reinforcements, to have high seas that you can't reinforce. That's how you end up losing badly in a battle. So they need that ideal weather to do an invasion if they're doing it.
• 32:27
  But if they're gonna just start a blockade and they're gonna slowly ratchet it up, they're gonna interfere with maybe ship traffic. One of the things they've seen, and I just got the report on, last week, was they are building up their airfields, opposite Taiwan to, you know, bringing in the fuel, bringing in the the ordinance that they would load the planes with. They're preparing the airfields to forward deploy the People's Liberation Army Air Force so that they could just, you know, blanket the skies with planes. Because if they do a blockade, naturally, there would be an airlift that Japan and The US would organize to bring things in. So they could not just do a blockade.
• 33:10
  They would have to do do an air blockade too, which is very tricky. It would mean they'd have to be bombing antiaircraft sites in Taiwan. They would have to be intercepting really ready to intercept transport aircraft and to have battles in the sky, air battles, full on air battles. So it looks like indeed they are preparing for that right now. So when does it when do they actually cross a line and and start releasing minds and start actually doing this?
• 33:47
  What mister Wang of Luda Media says, it's it's going to be unfolding. They've now they're taking the beginning steps to have a blockade and to threaten Taiwan and that this is gonna continue to unfold now during the month of August.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I see. So it's a it's a process of this happening. And so now, you know, you've mentioned some of the other countries in the the same region. So, you know, for them, if they just secure Taiwan, they want more than that, though. Right?
• 34:19
  Like, they
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: they want
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: they want South Korea, Japan. So after let's just say they do secure Taiwan, and, you know, I mean, my my guess is that Taiwan wouldn't really stand a chance up against if it was Taiwan versus China in a military, you know, conflict. So what what does that lead to? Like, what's next after that? You know?
• 34:40
  Because if you look at, like, what's happening with with Russia and Ukraine, it's like, well, the question is, do they just want a region of Ukraine, or do they want all of Ukraine? Or what the former president's coming out and saying is that, no. Actually, they want even more than that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: They want Ukraine. They want Kazakhstan. They want Georgia. They wanna put the Soviet Union back together again. And Ukraine was really the most important part of the Soviet Union to be separated from from it, from Moscow.
• 35:05
  So that is what they're really aiming at. And, to understand, right now, at the top of the CCP, and this is what, mister Wang's Luda media has been reporting in recent days, they are intensively studying World War two. They're studying Hitler. They're studying Pearl Harbor. And, now this is their report on what, Xi Jinping has recently said.
• 35:31
  Xi Jinping said, the problem with Hitler was he was not ruthless enough. He didn't kill enough people.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So that's what Xi Jinping has said.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Right. Xi Jinping is saying, you need to kill a lot more people.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So for all people that are saying that Xi Jinping is actually a good guy and everything, here he is quoting and saying that Hitler wasn't evil enough.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Right. And he is looking back and he's saying, look, our model should be the first Qin emperor. Okay? And the first Qin emperor, he just used very harsh methods to force people by physical threats and by violence to people to do what he wanted. And so this is with the lockdowns.
• 36:13
  You get people who are locked down, 280,000,000 people. And, okay, like I said before, no ice cream for you. You're gonna get potatoes. And pretty soon, the people are just happy to get the potatoes because they're like, are they gonna starve us? Right?
• 36:26
  They're being conditioned to live it all because for China to transition to war means its people have to pull carry the burden. Right, the economic burden, because they're going to be as they go to war, they're going to be cut off from The US. They're going to be cut off from the things we give them, which is food, by the way. So they're going to have to ration the food.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And been stockpiling like mad the past couple of years.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: They have because they have to be able to get through. They don't know how long this war process is gonna last. So they they've got 1,400,000,000 mouths to feed. That is a lot of people, and that they consume a lot of food. And you've got spoilage and other things that can happen.
• 37:09
  So, you know, you've got some reports saying that they have, you know, more than 60% of the world's grain and food stuff stockpiled in China. That's an incredible figure. Just incredible. But then again, they have, you know, almost a quarter of the world's population.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now, you know, before when we talk in looking at what is the end goal of this, you've mentioned before the Sino Soviet pact. You've mentioned the the basically, the agreement that was made that once the Soviets and the Chinese take America in in in Northern North America, that there that Russia would get Alaska and Canada, China would get the lower 48. So is what we're seeing right now, if you look at the similarity between Russia moving on Ukraine and China moving on Taiwan, they're very similar moves in in the overall military strategy.
• 38:01
  So are those just, like, the first chess pieces in their move where the endgame of this chess game is for them to reclaim North America or to claim North America?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you can think of the pandemic as one of the first moves. And you can think about the way that people on the left who were their friends, formerly friends of Russia and China, whatever they're pretending now or have pretended, you know, pushing the mass vaccination and and and saying, we're gonna vaccinate the whole US military. We're gonna vaccinate the German military. We're gonna you know, and so on. I think that there's a growing awareness.
• 38:37
  You maybe saw Naomi Wolf is claiming that the you know, some things, about this this
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: The side effects of what's doing with
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the military. Saying that COVID was an attack was a bio attack.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: This is something we have to when we're seeing these countries mobilizing for war, we have to wonder what that was. And though you can trace the beginnings of the mobilization to the pandemic. So this is a serious strategic question we have to ask ourselves, and we have to ask ourselves about, okay. So we were penetrated by China economically. How dangerous was that?
• 39:15
  What have they done within our system to help knock our system over and hurt our people? So that has to be sorted out. And I think Europe has had a big wake up call because Ukraine is a lot closer to them. And you've noticed there's a there's I I got an interesting communication yesterday from a journalist in Germany saying, you know, the politicians seem to be taking guidance, more guidance from the German military. And the military is like saying, there's some dangerous things happening.
• 39:42
  Germany it's very unusual. Everybody's really surprised that Germany is saying, we're going to tough out the winter without the all that Russian gas. And everybody's surprised. It's like, wow. Why are they doing this?
• 39:55
  Where are they getting the will? You know? Because everybody we've said, well, the Europeans are weak. The Germans have basically swallowed all the Russian nonsense and have become the economic allies of Russia. Well, that's all over.
• 40:08
  So what is it the Germans found out? What is it German intelligence found out that scared them so bad that they're willing to go through a really hard winter? You know? Because what they're doing in Germany is they're saying, alright. You don't have enough gas to eat your home.
• 40:21
  We're gonna have places where people can go to be warm, where families can go together. I mean, they are it's amazing to watch this. I mean, the the West is waking up to the fact that there's this threat. And so I'm I'm somewhat pleased to see that there is they're not we're not giving in, and we're willing to stand up. And what's really scary is the Russians and Chinese are doubling down.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And what and you mentioned, and this is towards the tail end of our last interview, which I think was a really, really important point that, you know, this is when, you know, there's there's a nuclear scare happening. We had, you know, Russian officials coming out talking about this. We had a lot of posturing. Even, you know, say, New York City doing the nuclear bomb threat.
• 41:02
  You know, here's what happens. And that was frightening, but you made a really good point in really highlighting that, you know, if even if China got through these next steps of this war, they got through the, you know, securing the seas in in that region and even say that they made landfall on the Continental US, that us just really hunkering down and resisting as even though Americans have gotten fat, happy, and stupid in a lot of ways. Right? We've got become distracted by bread and circuses and sports and, you know, not not everyone, of course, but by and large, our nation's really kind of fallen asleep at the wheel. That's changing, and we're waking up, and there's a resurgence of patriotism and, you know, prepping and resilience and everything that's happening.
• 41:44
  But you really highlighted the really important fact that if the American people can really pull together and hunker down to to withstand this, that we can actually be the force that helps to really eliminate the CCP by just holding holding them off long enough because we know they're in a very weakened state. And part of the reason that's driving these acts of war is desperation because there are countries on the verge of collapsing.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they did it themselves. This this COVID thing, the the pandemic hurt them. There was a rebound effect a rebound effect on them. And they their attempts to economically attack us, which is very common for communists, they don't really understand economics.
• 42:29
  Their efforts to attack us are hurting them, maybe hurting them worse than us. There's been some interesting Russian bloggers who've been talking about the effects on their economy and how the real effects on the average Russian are not being portrayed. You know? Russia's you know, Putin gets up there and brags and says, ah, it says you know, we had 18% inflation, but now it's down to 17% and the ruble's stronger. And I saw a Russian blogger, he made the point, he said, The ruble's being artificially propped up.
• 42:56
  He said, It's just nonsense. The Russians are really starting to suffer, and it's unemployment. You know? They're they're losing parts of their economy are shutting down, and China's the same thing. Think about a 280,000,000 people being isolated in their apartments in China for months on end, and they'll say like, oh, it's going to end, and then it doesn't.
• 43:20
  Right? Because they give they they want us to hear the message that it's returning to normal there when they're still mobilizing over there. They're they're trying to fake us, and they're just like making us think it's about Taiwan. Look. If you're a strategist and you're China and you wanna break out and you're preparing seriously for a war, you know you have to fight America.
• 43:40
  Because if you invade Taiwan or you support North Korea against South Korea or you do any attack on India or any of these other countries, you're gonna be facing America. So you've gotta go for America. And this is why the CCP study group, the top cadre leadership, Xi Jinping, they're studying World War two. They're studying Pearl Harbor. And they're saying, you know, the Japanese made a mistake.
• 44:03
  They the Germans made a mistake. They didn't kill enough Americans. They weren't ruthless enough. Their surprise attack wasn't big enough.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they are planning some kind of surprise attack? I mean, right now, we're seeing this unfold in Taiwan, but what do you think that they have in store for America or Continental Continental US?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: If they think they can get away with it, they'll do a surprise attack. And and it's a matter of whether they can work up the nerve to do it and do it together. The fact that, Chinese, special forces troops are are coming over to Russia, It's it's they're binding themselves together. They're finding ways to bind themselves together. One of the things we're gonna probably see later this month, this month is gonna be very dramatic in Ukraine because, and I've talked to different people, we don't know exactly, but they have gone, reached back, and they've got they're taking 40 year olds.
• 45:00
  Russians who have veteran veteran Russian service members with past experience, they're taking them. They they think the best guesstimate is about a hundred thousand fresh Russian troops, and fresh meaning, you know, new formations, to prosecute a new offensive. And they've been infiltrating units into Belarusia. They've been pressuring Lukashenko, the dictator of of Belarus. They've been pressuring him to use his army to invade from the north.
• 45:31
  They want to do another double envelopment attack like they did in February. And it's almost crazy to think. You know? It's like, wait a minute. It didn't work before.
• 45:41
  Why would it work now? I think they're going to have a looser attack where they're just trying to cut the roads. They're just trying to cut Ukrainian supply lines. And so they're gonna try a really crazy thing to attack around, Transdynistria and Odessa. I think they're gonna come down from the north.
• 46:01
  And but at the same time, the Ukrainians have had all the success with their new artillery units, their longer range. They got an 80 kilometer range on these artillery units, and they have now turned these artillery units in the Kherson front to attacking, if you've noticed the news, anti aircraft positions, surface to air missile positions. Now that is really telling what that tells me is that the Ukrainians have built their air force up because they wouldn't be attacking those unless they were planning some kind of air move. Because it was like as of a couple days ago, they'd knocked out over 200 surface to air missile sites in the Kherson area. They've knocked out bridges for supply that the Russians are using.
• 46:46
  There's an offensive coming this month. And, of course, you've heard news about it in and, of course, the Russians on their side, they're preparing what I would call a counter offensive, which is and counter offensive is the most powerful form of offensive because you wait to see the enemy's attack, and you use your counter forces to hit the enemy in ways where because when this is like boxing. You know, when you strike, you expose yourself to a counterstrike when you're boxing. Same thing in operational art of war. So the Russians are falling back on this.
• 47:20
  It's smart, but we don't know how successful they could be because everything they've done hasn't really worked well. And they they've I think I've we've talked about this before. Russians fell back on using a World War one weapon, massed howitzers, you know, landing 20,000 shells a day on average on the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians then used their new artillery systems to wipe out 50 ammunition depots over the last month and that has basically caused the Russian guns to fall silent, relatively silent. So the Russians, they're calling it a pause.
• 47:56
  But what it is is here ammunition got blown up, So they can't continue that offensive, and they're grabbing ammunition from forward depots in Belarus because they'd have to go behind the Urals to their billion ammo stockpile back there to pull it, and that's days away by train. And they're not able to keep up with what they need. And so the Russians are in a desperate position. And so this is the moment where the Russians pull out some kind of secret weapon, something we don't expect. Maybe they use tactical nuclear weapons.
• 48:29
  And you maybe saw that MonkeyWorks, two, three weeks ago came out saying that all the Russian subs are at sea.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We saw that. Yep.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: And, of course, the Russians have been doing these submarine surges where they've been going to sea and then sneaking back, and that is to wear out our vigilance. That's intentional. They've been doing that since 2020. They've been doing these submarine things, and the the Royal Navy has been especially vocal about describing it and saying this is a problem, but we're going to counter it. I don't know whether those submarines have come back to port or not this time, But there has been as you saw in the Monkey Works report, they were showing how there's been increased anti submarine warfare activity off of our East Coast.
• 49:12
  So when you have you know, the the submarines, the Russian boomers have nukes, and their attack submarines, their Kursk class attack submarines have nukes. So they've put a lot of nukes to see. This is like putting the gun like, okay. We're gonna use maybe what they're doing, and this is one analyst told me this. He thinks they're gonna use tactical nukes in Ukraine.
• 49:35
  And by having their summaries to see, they're putting a gun to it saying, if you interfere now, if you use nukes on us, we're ready to use them on you. Sort of it's a way of signaling, but it's more than signaling. So this is where it gets dangerous. We are getting into And then the Chinese. This is all being done together.
• 49:55
  This is teamwork between Beijing and Moscow. You can kind of see it's choreography. There's a choreography here. It's it's difficult to read, but you can see that it is they're ratcheting up. They're preparing for a larger war unless we just give up.
• 50:13
  Right? Then there's no war if we quit.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: So you so, basically, what you're seeing is that this isn't just about Russia reclaiming Ukraine or China claiming Taiwan. This is them beginning the earlier stages of a real World War three where they want to redraw massive geographic lines across the world.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Right. I go back to this this defector is rather extraordinary, and he's been attacked through the years, and and his name has been dragged through the mud. Anatoly Golitsyn, he wrote a book. If you can get it, it's called New Lies for Old. I think you can buy it on Amazon.
• 50:55
  Goodness knows what the cost of it is right now. And I think there's PDF copies online that
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: we probably find. For our home library. So
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Good. It's a you might think it's a very dry book, but you need to really try to read it over and over again because what Galitsyn did, he was a defector. He was part of the reorganization of the KGB in the late fifties. They were reorganizing it under general Alexander Schleppen to for a long range deception strategy, which Galitsyn said involved the faking the collapse, the fake liberalization of the Soviet Union to put the West to sleep, to even get rid of the Warsaw Pact. He makes a 40 falsifiable predictions in his 1984 book saying the Berlin Wall is gonna come down.
• 51:41
  The Communist Party is gonna give up power in the Soviet Union. And and it was within you know, in less than a decade, almost 94% of his predictions had come true, but he had additional predictions in there about China and Russia getting together at the end of this deception process and forming this what he called one clenched fist to come after and shift them have the military balance shift and come after us. And he even wrote in his book, Perestroika Deception, he published a memorandum he wrote to the CIA about a nuclear Pearl Harbor against the West. He he had this memo saying, this is they're gonna do a nuclear Pearl Harbor on you. This is what the end game is in in this particular memorandum.
• 52:32
  That's in his book, the Parastroica Deception that was published, I think, in '95. That you could probably find that online too. But it's extraordinary because Galitsyn, again, he's not just 94% right. More of his predictions keep coming true, the ones that were further out in the future. And and, you know, he's been attacked over and over again by our liberal media as being you know, there was a book called Cold Warrior by Thomas Mangold.
• 53:04
  And Thomas Mangold says in the book that Galitzen was clinically he was a paranoid schizophrenic. I mean, that's a pretty big hit on somebody to say that they're crazy. Well, if he's paranoid schizophrenic, then we need more of it because he was right. He had the magic. And speaking as someone who was educated as a political scientist is very rare that political science prognostication turns out to be true.
• 53:32
  So when you've got somebody that's called things over decades, you gotta pay attention because his methodology, whatever he's doing, whatever he's drinking, you want some of that cider too. You know?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's the Nostradamus cider, which seems like it maybe he's just, you know, enlightening the things through, you know, prayer, but actually, this guy's a KGB defector.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: He's just He's an anal see, he Galitsyn, not only it isn't just Galitsyn because he defected with this knowledge, but he defected, and he got taken under the wing of James Angleton, who was the head of the counterintelligence staff, which was for twenty years the brain of the CIA. And what the counterintelligence staff did is they wanted to know the mind of the enemy. So they took Galitsyn, and they said, this Galitsyn is confirming things that we figured out about how the Soviets think, how the Russians think, how Moscow thinks. And so they added to what Golitsyn had to say. So Golitsyn's book isn't just his thinking, it's also that collaboration between these really smart CIA guys who really got into the mindset of the Moscow Strategist.
• 54:38
  And so I think that was the magic. Look, strategy analyst is not magic. It's like I told people a month before the invasion, more than a month before the invasion of Ukraine, I said, they're going to invade. And how did I know? I can read NATO symbols.
• 54:56
  I read the maps and I said, this isn't a normal exercise. This is a preparation. And I said to people, this is going to be a double envelopment operation and they're going to go to surround Kyiv. And that's exactly what they did. And how did I know?
• 55:09
  Because one of the things I studied is military history and battles and stuff, and it's very dry. A lot of people, the books are very dry. But when you get to learn it, you can then it's like learning a foreign language. You get to learn the moves. And when people make certain moves, it's just like when they say certain things.
• 55:31
  They're signaling to you what they're gonna do because you go, okay. Why would they move this here? You know, at the time, I I had remarked to some people. They showed me this, four Russians put four airborne brigades on the Polish border. And I said, oh, that's clearly they're gonna drop those behind Kyiv.
• 55:48
  And they did. They dropped them behind Kyiv. And and it's sort of like, yeah. Why would you do that? Because normally, if you're forward deploying against NATO, you wouldn't put the paratroopers up because they're light troops.
• 56:01
  They're meant to drop behind enemy lines. They're not meant to be upfront. But then you look at the angle, you look at the deploy, the heavy deployment in Crimea to break out and go that other way. A double envelopment is the classic. Think of yourself as being in the middle and you're enveloping from both sides.
• 56:19
  That is the most dangerous, potentially effective way to win a battle. If you can do that, you you're gonna have a decisive win.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: So with what's happening in Taiwan, do you expect that as it intensifies there, that we're gonna see the similar things as we have seen with Ukraine where it's like, okay. Now we're gonna be sending our tax dollars over there. Or do you think that it will it will heighten to the fact that maybe we start militarily stepping in, which I mean, is that what is that what China and Russia want for us to step in militarily, which then kinda sets up the the pretext for a full blown war?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Well, they they might very well want that. They might want us to forward deploy in a way that is gonna allow them to destroy a lot of our forces forward, because maybe they want to be able to use intermediate range nuclear weapons on our forces. I don't know. You know, I'm just, you know, thinking imaginatively about what the enemy is thinking. I think you gotta remember, they always use diversion.
• 57:22
  In some sense, they really do wanna put the Soviet Union together. But in a way, this attack against Ukraine has really sucked up a lot of attention. It's taken a lot of resources for NATO and The United States, and they get to then gauge our reaction. They gauge our willpower. They gauge our readiness.
• 57:42
  It's like a feedback thing. It's like, oh, what are they going to do if I do this? See, it's like a test. And do we pass the test? Then they go to the next test, and they make it harder and harder as we go on.
• 57:54
  Like, are things going to ratchet up in Serbia? Is North Korea going to start to act up now? See? And then as we suddenly were How many balls is the West juggling in the air at once? Can we keep them all in the air?
• 58:09
  And then they see whether we start to say, all right, what do you want? We can't handle this. What do you want? And then they think, okay, we got them now. Right?
• 58:22
  But if they want a war, which may be what they're fishing for, they want to cover their mobile see, if we think they're mobilizing for Ukraine and Taiwan, but they're mobilizing for a full on war involving more countries where they can maybe invade Alaska or do other things against us directly or South America or Central America. We may miss the larger threat because we're so focused on Taiwan or we're so focused on Ukraine.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: So, basically, they they can lure us into there while, you know, they might have like like you mentioned with with Russia. You said that Russia didn't even have their finest troops in Ukraine. They were actually up more in the Arctic region. Is that right?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: That's what mister Wang said is they're hiding you know, the best part of the Russian military is hiding up in Siberia prepared to to support the Chinese in the Pacific or against Alaska. And this is a you noticed that they were openly talking about taking Alaska.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alaska. A thumbnail, which I'll pull up in a second here. Kate, if you wanna Yeah. Pull that page back up for me.
• 59:37
  Because they had the billboard that was actually put out in Russia that was saying Alaska is ours. Is ours. The actual Which Yeah. You know, goes right in line with what you were saying. Because there's there's a lot of people that, you know, that there's a narrative.
• 59:53
  There's a, I guess, a sub narrative. There's lots of narratives going around, but there is a particular narrative that, you know, China and Russia are, you know, teaming up to, a, get rid of the CCP. Like, Xi Jinping is not part of the CCP. He wants to eliminate communism, and and they wanna together work to free The United States from this Western, you know, kinda deep state that's controlling us. And I think that a lot of people are like, oh, great.
• 1:00:17
  You know, the enemy of the of my enemy is my friend, but I'm not sure if I see that that's exactly what's playing out right here.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, they they have a problem in that people don't want to fight for communism, And they've learned a lot from Hitler. Hitler had what you call national socialism, whereas the USSR was the union of the Soviet Socialist Republics. It was international socialism. Well, what Stalin immediately was the first communist leader to recognize when he went to war with Hitler is he recognized that his soldiers you had whole Soviet armies basically defecting over to the Germans surrendering at the beginning of the war.
• 1:00:53
  He thought, oh my gosh. They don't want to fight for communism. So he called the great patriotic war. He reopened the churches. Stalin did this.
• 1:01:02
  The big communists who wiped out all kinds of anti communists. He opened the churches again. He called it he he asked them to fight for mother Russia. You know? The the Rodina, you know, that's the Russian word for motherland.
• 1:01:17
  So he didn't make it the war about communist. So he took a chat. He said, look. Hitler gets his people to fight for him. How does he do it?
• 1:01:25
  Because he's a national socialist, and people will fight for their nation. So you'll notice several years ago when when Russian propaganda the war propaganda started when they in annexed Crimea and they started the war in Donbas in 2014. The you had this big nationalist, you know, militarized propaganda coming starting out in Russia. You had the same thing. The Chinese communists were using greater Han nationalism, Chinese nationalism.
• 1:01:53
  It's like, I remember people were saying, well, why are they doing this? And it's like, this is the first indication they're thinking about a war. Because they know people won't fight for communism. So what are they doing? They're saying, oh, well, we represent the Rodina.
• 1:02:07
  We represent the motherland, you know, because people will fight for their nation.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's also about positioning The Us versus them, establishing that we we're fighting for the Mainland of Of China against the evil capitalists that wanna, you know, kinda decimate us, and it's about establishing the enemy.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. China has this there's a large diaspora of Chinese that live all over Southeast Asia. They live in America. They live in in Latin America. They live all over the world.
• 1:02:38
  They're in Australia. They're in New Zealand. And many of these people are people who left China to get away from communism. So you've got a a hardcore of anti communist Chinese who are really a problem for China because they're they're free to say what they want and to oppose a regime, and they're racially Chinese. And so this is a real problem.
• 1:03:02
  They so they send a lot of part of the diaspora is the fake die you know, the the the communist controlled diaspora. And they send them out so they can try to intimidate overseas and to try to monitor this diaspora and maybe even assassinate people and try to to to, discredit them and to put out various fake narratives to confuse the whole issue. And and you you've got a lot of controversy. You'll notice within the Chinese diaspora community a finger pointing where the Chinese will say, you're not really so and so is not a really true Chinese patriot. You're a communist.
• 1:03:51
  And then you'll you'll have it back and forth. And there's even lawsuits, and there's all kinds of it's because of this. There there's a war going on, like a civil war within the Chinese diaspora, and it's it's becoming more pronounced as the larger war gets closer. And so China, you can see it reflected in the in the bubbling over that's going on among, this diaspora Because what China wants to do by using greater Han nationalism is they wanna say, oh, you're against Beijing. You're against the CCP.
• 1:04:23
  You're a race traitor of the Chinese people. See? They play the race card on their own people.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And they it it's interesting because it's also, like, they can turn it against and say, look. If you hate the CCP, you hate China. And that's what the CCP has really tried to do.
• 1:04:40
  It tried to make itself Yeah. China. Right? If if you love the five thousand years of history of China and you hate the CCP, it's like, well, they they don't wanna hear that. They want it to be that Right.
• 1:04:49
  You're you're anti China if if you don't want these criminals ruling over top of you.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fifteen, sixteen years ago, in the wake of the the very scary release of general Qiao Chen's speech, the defense minister who talked about exterminating the Americans, using biological warfare to attack America. Epoch Times translated and published that speech in, I think it was February of of two thousand five. There was a lot of discussion in the diaspora about what how do we do? Do we try do we warn the Americans?
• 1:05:24
  Do we and there were certain people in the Chinese diaspora who were saying, we can't talk about this because if there's war between China and America, even though we're anti communist, we have to be on Chinese side the Chinese side because we're Chinese. But, you know, over the years, that's been changing because you you have so it really, the Chinese people, they know this is a bad evil regime. They know what's what's happened to Falun Gong, the persecuted Christians, the the the labor camps, the Lao guy, the the organ stealing people's kidneys, you know, ripping their kidneys and their heart and their organs out to sell on the international market. You know, organ organ done. This is tragic.
• 1:06:10
  And so so you you what we see is I remember there was this very moving video in 2020 of this, and you know she died. You know they arrested her. She did a YouTube video denouncing the CCP with such passionate anger, knowing they were gonna come to arrest her, but making the statement of how evil the CCP was. And it was I watched it over and over again. It was so moving.
• 1:06:35
  She was willing to she said, what is the matter with us? Why aren't we willing to die to stop these evil people? So and I think there is within China, this is simmering. Yeah. And they they are they could the Chinese people could rise up and and hang them all, and they know it.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: And so and I wanna continue that exact conversation. So, normally, we we hop on to Rise TV only for the q and a portion, but I actually I think that the conversation, especially where we're at right now, is is a really important conversation and really clarifying what's happening with the CCP and the Chinese people. And so I do wanna keep the q and a portion of this open to the public for the folks that are on Russia or not in Russia, that are on YouTube, which is probably part of Russia, but YouTube, Facebook, all the public platforms. So any of you that are watching, if you have any questions at all, I've got a few folks who are helping me gather those questions. Just write the questions in your comment for Jeff, and and we'll get to as many as we can.
• 1:07:36
  And we've already had a later schedule because of the our tech issue at 02:00, and I really appreciate your time being here, Jeff. But I wanted to actually I wanted to talk specifically about what's happening with China and the CCP, because it's really easy, I think, for a lot of us to have this feeling that, oh my gosh. Okay. Are China and Russia now teaming up against us? Like, they look at what Biden has done to the country, and they're really, really scared.
• 1:08:03
  Like, okay. Are they just gonna come take us? Are we just gonna roll over and die? But, you know, I've been you know, I actually, at one point, was very involved with the Epoch Times, you know, back in the early two thousands, and it even was in, you know, going into Flushing to, you know, doing investigative journalism and working to expose a lot of the Chinese officials in Flushing, New York that had CCP ties. And I saw the overseas Chinese communist groups that were battling with the Chinese that were living here that didn't want communism.
• 1:08:31
  So I I spent so much time in that, you know, deep in Chinatown, so I really experienced that. But what a lot of people don't realize is that for a totalitarian regime to truly maintain its power, it has to keep the loyalty of the people, especially with this day and age where there's so much information, you know, access, you know, so much gets across a great firewall. But people don't really understand that there is a massive movement of Chinese people that are actively quitting and leaving the Chinese Communist Party. And even though you talked about this woman coming out publicly and making a video about it. And so this the the communist officials are seeing this.
• 1:09:08
  And I think that there's a website actually, Kate, maybe you can pull the website up, which is a it's a about people that have quit the CCP publicly. And I think that they're up to almost 400,000,000 people that have publicly declared that they're they're renouncing their ties to the Chinese Communist Party, which I think doesn't have as much to do with a the bureaucracy of it. But what it does is this communicates I'll pull this website up. It communicates to the CCP leadership that their own people no longer believe in their cause. And as we enter into a time period like this where they're trying to mobilize their entire country for war against America, if nearly 400,000,000 of their own people say, look.
• 1:09:50
  We see through the lies of of communism. They're in a very, very weakened state.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it's more morality is very important, and it's related it's intrinsic to to politics. So when people withdraw from something, they're taking away they're they're taking a moral stand, and they're saying, you're you're not right, and I am not associating with the wrong that you're doing. They don't wanna be a part of the murders. They don't wanna be a part of the the evil that is being done in the name of that party. And so this is a tremendous you know, for people tremendously courageous, by the way, in a totalitarian country for somebody to even if they don't say a word, they just say, oh, I don't wanna be in in the party anymore.
• 1:10:41
  I mean, that is a moral statement.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: That is saying, I'm not going to be associated with these gangsters. I mean, even if they haven't said a word, it's just is my party card. Here, take it back. I don't want to be in the party anymore. So there has to be a tremendous underlying moral strength of people willing to do that, to make that decision.
• 1:11:06
  Because in a country like that, you're taking your life in your hands. You're certainly hurting yourself economically because you're gonna be the first to to to to be shorted on food. You're not gonna get a nice apartment. You're not gonna have a very nice job because that's gonna be reserved to the people who are ultra loyal to the party.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, actually and and, Kate, maybe if you could bring up the nine commentaries book. Because I know that a lot of this so the editors the editorial board of the Epoch Times published a book called nine commentaries, which was it was Jo Ping was the the Chinese translation of it. And this is a book that people were literally bringing suitcases, smuggling suitcases of this book into China. They're setting up home printing factories of these books to distribute in China.
• 1:11:54
  And actually and I was so I I, you know, I guess, you'd say avid about this cause in my, you know, in my college years. I even had a Chinese person help me set up a computer in my dorm room that was making phone calls on on an an automated phone dialer to Chinese that was actually exposing them and talking to them about the truth of the Chinese Communist Party and encouraging them to quit them. That was back in 02/2008, encouraging them to quit the Chinese Communist Party. So this book, I actually pulled up here, you know, which is the updated version of it, is how the specter of communism is ruling our world. It was the Chinese version of this book that they distributed because what it did is it it undid all of the lies of the CCP.
• 1:12:37
  And that's the thing is that the CCP can only stay in power if the people abide by its lies. And so that was a here's here's the other website for the actual book that this was the actual book that exposed the truth of the Communist Party, which was really a very significant movement happening underground in China. And I I personally know people that came out of the labor camp after ten years because they got caught with copies of this book they're distributing in Mainland China, but they didn't care. Because you're right. You nailed it.
• 1:13:08
  It was a moral decision for them to say, I'm no longer gonna go along with this murderous regime.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that realize that they have a soul and that their soul is immortal. And, in Western theological terms, there's a that the people don't know. There's a technical term. The ancient Greek word is pneuma. It means spirit, roughly translates.
• 1:13:32
  And that's the part of us that's connected to god or the the greater the great mind of of of the universe, the the creator. And that that part is where you get your conscience, where you get inspiration, maybe poetic inspiration, but moral inspiration. And the ultimate creativity and the feeling of meaning and purpose in life comes from that, from having, you know, your soul oriented spiritually, oriented the right way. So it it in every country, you're gonna find people who simply will stand up from this moral center. They will somehow they have this strength that they get from God that will allow them to stand up for what's right.
• 1:14:20
  And I I've been amazed, you know, when I've talked to this is, a guy who, grew up in Soviet Moldova Years ago. And this fellow, his name was Michael. And I remember interviewing him, and they tried to recruit him. The KGB tried to recruit him. The GRU tried to recruit him.
• 1:14:41
  And he said, I don't wanna be a a spy because spies hurt people, and it's wrong. And he went through a terrible he he was like mowing lawns as a side job in the Soviet Union to be able to just make ends meet. He couldn't get married. He couldn't afford anything. He just sort of lived hand to mouth.
• 1:15:01
  And they just they the reason they wanted to recruit him is he had tremendous English. He spoke English almost without an accent. He had this love. He says, what I wanted to do always was live in America. And so there was this moral core in this guy that he knew he was not going to work with those murderers in in the KGB.
• 1:15:21
  And so in China and all these totalitarian, you think about the number of people in labor camps, most of many of those people, they have criminals. They go into those camps, but the political prisoners, the prisoners of conscience, they've had millions of people in Russia, in China, in North Korea who were just good people, and they're there because they're good.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of them I mean, a lot of work that I've done with China, they could walk out of those labor camps at any point if they just signed some agreement that they would stop practicing Christianity, that they'd stop practicing Falun Gong, they would they could literally sign an agreement pledging, but they they couldn't do it because it was on a moral level. They felt like they'd be turning their back on God if they did that.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Because if you have an immortal soul, okay, you break my body, but I'm keeping my soul. I'm not giving my soul to the CCP. And that is real courage, and that is what comes out what can come out of these very negative regimes is a core of purified people. You know? We had Solzhenitsyn.
• 1:16:30
  We had certain people come out, you know, out of the former Soviet Union who were in enormously courageous. Vladimir Bukovsky, what a tiger. He he the only reason he didn't die in the gulag and he would spend his whole youth in labor camps and in psychiatric prisoners as a psychiatric prisoner against his will. He briefly got out. He found a Western journalist in Moscow, and he got him to point a camera at him, and he denounced the whole system.
• 1:16:59
  He says, I'm going back to prison. He got out to the West, and they said, no. No. We we want him. And they thought, oh gosh, they know about him in the West.
• 1:17:06
  We gotta kick him out. So they kicked him out. I think he went to Switzerland at first. But but, I mean, imagine the courage. You know you're gonna be tortured in prison.
• 1:17:14
  You're gonna you you spent he spent huge amounts of time in solitary confinement, you know, that would make a a normal person crazy. And they used drugs on him to try to destroy his mind, and he withstood all that. It's insane. I mean, imagine it.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is insane. I met a guy I'll give share one quick story, and then I've got a good question lined up. But I met a guy, and this was actually originally you know, lot of people that watch my show know that I do focus a lot on China because I do believe that especially as we're seeing now that the CCP is the enemy of of humankind. And, you know, back in college in the early two thousands, I met a guy, a Chinese guy, that was the one of the nicest guys possible that had come out of communist out of China.
• 1:17:55
  He's a Chinese guy. He had a full ride, like, PhD level scholarship to Ohio State University for engineers. It was brilliant. He's one of the top of his class that I think Tongshan, I forgot university, one of the major universities of China. And he was just the nicest guy ever, but he had this little bit of the sorrow to him.
• 1:18:11
  I remember talking to him when I say, what happened? And he had spent, I think it was six years in a labor camp in China. And it was because he was a Falun Gong practitioner. And so they would literally, they would strap him, they'd take a bed, like an old bed frame, put up against the wall, tie him up almost like it was a crucifix, and to shock his body with cattle prods for hours and hours on end. And part of what he did is he worked in forced labor camps.
• 1:18:38
  And so he could literally walk into a Walmart and point out the exact products, whether it was Homer Simpson slippers or Christmas bulbs, he could point out the exact products that he was making in these labor camps in China, but he was tortured if he didn't make these products. And the frightening thing which kinda changed my eating habits for most of my adult life is that, you know, how we have the pistachio nuts that are cracked open. Right? Well, the Chinese call those happy nuts because they have it's like a little smile that the the pistachio makes when it's half cracked. So he was taking so what's happening, you'd have an American grower grow pistachio nuts.
• 1:19:14
  They were shipping these nuts over to China, where this guy, and his name was William, he was cracking nuts for about sixteen to eighteen hours a day. He just had to crack the nuts, and they get shipped back over to The United States, so us Americans get our pre cracked nuts so that they can help us out. And he his hands were bloodied from this process. And he said that even because he was working in a small room with these benches, they had about I think it was only a couple square meters, and they were packed. They had a workbench that they had slept on.
• 1:19:43
  It was a workbench during the day. There was a piss bucket in the corner, and that some of the inmates, if they had the hard to crack nuts, they'd soak them in their urine bucket. That way the nuts were easier to crack, because they had to crack every single bucket. And those were then coming back to The United States. I remember I met that guy, and that changed the course of my life.
• 1:20:00
  And that at that it was that time that said, you know what? I need to do whatever I do, I have to dedicate myself to really exposing what's happening under communist regimes in this world.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I I forced myself to read a lot of stories of prisoners in Russia and in China and to recommend one. Harry Wu, who wrote Bitter Winds, he was in nineteen years in the Lao guy. And he was I believe he was a as I remember, he was a Christian Chinese Christian. I think his father was a banker, so he had everything going against him.
• 1:20:30
  He was arrested in college, as a university student. And and I interviewed him in 1999, and it was quite an experience because there was something in him, in his soul, in his character that was made out of iron. He he was direct. He was not. He was strong inwardly.
• 1:20:58
  And when I asked him, what do you think about the leaders of the CCP? He said, they're murderers. Very direct.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully, we see an end of this soon. Hopefully. I do believe God is on our side.
• 1:21:14
  So I've got a question here from Court Ryaneland over on Rise TV. And before I jump in, Jeff, I know it's we've already kind of shifted the time. You have a little more time for questions? It's already 04:23.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: So Court says, what would China have to gain from a military move versus the general attrition and reliance on China that's now working unabated? In other words, their dupe of the West and the weakening of the West is still working. So why now?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: That's a good question that people keep asking. This Hong Kong businessman a year ago, May, who said they are going they're preparing for war now, He said it was things that Trump did when he was president dislocated things in their economy. Their banking system's a house of cards so they could see that they were gonna go into a depression or severe recession, that they that they would destabilize them politically. So rather than facing that, which could spell the end of their system, they decided that they were gonna turn it into they were gonna say, alright. Our economy's gonna be constricted.
• 1:22:19
  Let's go to war anyway. There's some other people that think that it has to do with the grand solar minimum, that climate is going to be getting colder. They have the largest extent of ice in the Arctic this summer than has been for many years. And that if the growing season shortens and they've had flooding in China that's affected their crops, that China could be affected by droughts and flooding that could, totally cripple them. And and so they they have to go out.
• 1:22:49
  They have to get the Lebensraum and get the secure the land to feed their people, or they will their regime will die. So there's these two different explanations, and, both of them may be be correct. They may be correct together.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: And so, actually, that that goes plays right into PJ Dave's question from YouTube who says, what do you think of China being on the verge of collapse?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's I had a talk with a Wall Street Banker who is in the Committee on the Present Danger last October who had very fascinating information about the mistakes that China was making in reacting to things that Trump had done. And that, by the way, the Biden administration has kept some of the trade barriers that Trump put up. And he said that because their banking is not honest, and they've played things. Their banks are empty, and they've had massive malinvestment, that their economy, he said, this was in October, that before the end of the second quarter, you're gonna see their economy starting to collapse.
• 1:23:59
  And we did with the banks, you know, not, okay. You don't have your money. Oh, guess what? We need the money. The money is really socially ours anyway.
• 1:24:07
  Right? Your bank account. So we were seeing their banking system fail. We've seen the dislocation of the real estate market. They're entering into a severe crash.
• 1:24:18
  And and, basically, what he said is he said, I think they have to prepare for war because they can't weather this crash without putting it on us as somehow we're responsible for it. You know? Blame blame somebody else. Yeah.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: So here's a question from Mix over on Rise TV. And and, basically, what they're asking is, you know, no one doesn't really talk about what happens after the CCP collapses. So what would you see happening? Who is it that would step in? I know that, you know, Miles Guo and a lot of the folks involved with the lewd media, and even Steve Bannon had some involvement in the, you know, I forget the exact term, the Republic Of China, but it was a new form of governance for China they were trying to bring in.
• 1:25:00
  What what would you see happening if the CCP collapses?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Well, of course, the CCP has, as a totalitarian organization, they penetrated all aspects of society, all aspects of economy. They've got their fingers controlling. You know, every company above a certain size has a secret party committee on there kind of dictating to the CEO of the company. And, the you just can't imagine the level of control. So if that control breaks down, if people turn against it in by masses, you've got a kind of anarchy, and the country will probably break into different countries.
• 1:25:39
  So you'll you might have warlordism like they had in the nineteen thirties. Right? Three kingdoms or several kingdoms, the warring states period, because China is a complicated place. And so we don't know how that could happen because we've never seen a communist the Soviet breakup was the closest thing we've seen, the changes. But those changes were prepared in advance by the communists, and they maintain control of a lot of things underneath the surface.
• 1:26:09
  And it's been a gradual it's been been a low key kind of battle like in Ukraine, which kind of flared up in 2014 between the Soviet structures and the the people wanting to create something new and organic. In China, social explosion with the food problems and the economic problems, I mean, the violence could be incredible in a Chinese renewed Chinese civil war. And it's it's almost impossible to say what the country would look like after that.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: It's almost like imagining what America would look like. I mean, you could say, well, maybe Texas would secede, and you'd have you know, California would be who knows what California would do? Become, you know, China again or, you know, for the first time.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Well, America is so similar to the way it's structured to what happened in Spain in the nineteen thirties that you can almost make a kind of you could use Spain as an analogy and make certain predictions that you could say, this is probably what will happen. We'll probably, the right would probably win if there wasn't foreign intervention, and, there would be a war of columns. In other words, neighborhoods would arm themselves and stuff. But, I think that's less and less likely to be because people on the left are waking up, and they're saying, wait a minute. We're Americans.
• 1:27:30
  We need to be America. Somebody's attacking us. You know? So when you have people on the left who are saying, wait a minute. Something wrong with Biden.
• 1:27:38
  There's something wrong with these policies. China's our enemy. Russia's our enemy. Right. So except for the really strong ideological Marxist types, you're you're seeing a shift.
• 1:27:53
  Yeah. And their position is eroding away. So we'll we'll see if we get to the fall in the election. We'll see what happens. But my sense is there's a big shift happening here.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: That that actually leads into a question from, Deb's on Rise TV, which actually is really good. She says, are we heading towards a war that The USA can win? Will Biden act against China, or will he cave in?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Biden's a weak leader, so you're gonna look more towards people like admiral Richard and Todd Walters and other generals who really have been ahead of the game, have known what the danger was, have said, look, Todd Walters, US Air Force general, commander in NATO, saying that Russia and China are together, and we have to treat them like they're one power, and making really smart statements about strategies that could be used. So we've got some good strategists, that can come to the fore. We're not, without, and they've made some smart moves. We're coming from behind the curve. The Chinese are actually giving us a lot of time to get our act together.
• 1:28:59
  And like this fellow in Germany was saying, you know, it's almost like the the military and and police in Germany are sort of dictating the politicians and saying, you've been wrong. Your relationship with Germany with Russia has been wrong. We need to secure the future of the German people against what Putin wants to do. Because what one of the things that that Medvedev and others is saying is we're restoring the original borders of the Rodina of the motherland. We're restoring the USSR.
• 1:29:30
  And that really has horrific implications because he says they say not only to restore it, but then to go beyond it.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is which is significant.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What happens is threat.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I just wanna give a quick reminder to those that are watching. So normally, this q and a portion would only be on Rise TV. I felt like this is such an important discussion to have publicly. But if you want to support what we're doing, the best way is to subscribe to Rise TV.
• 1:30:00
  You can check out there's a free trial in the link below there's in the video. Sorry. There's description. You can find a free trial down there. And so I encourage you to come check it out, because really that's what allows us to to do this.
• 1:30:12
  Right? Because YouTube, trust me, YouTube is not paying me to have these discussions on their channel. So, Jeff, I really do appreciate you being here with this. This is such an important conversation to have right now. So I've got a actually, here's a question from YouTube.
• 1:30:25
  And also, as a reminder that for those of you that are watching on YouTube or Facebook, please at least try to come watch on Rumble next time, because I'd rather not have to rely on reaching you through YouTube or Facebook, because they're they're controlled by the CCP. I mean, they're they're censoring, you know, people like me. A lot of people, they're trying to get the truth out to you. So at least try to come watch on Rumble. So on YouTube, we've got Stark who says, Jeff, do you think it could be a plan to have a war we lose intentionally with Biden surrendering the country with no military resistance?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think you see, the president of The United States has something called the secret service, and they carry guns. And they're around him at all times, and they're pretty patriotic. Right? So you can't the number of people who have these communist sympathies and I went to graduate school. I knew some of them.
• 1:31:17
  Some of them are not going to are gonna wake up and go, no. Maybe what I believe is not right. And you've got the ones that are compromised that are hardcore, but that's a minority. So what are you going to do? You're going to be an outright traitor in front of everybody where everybody's going look at you and go, what?
• 1:31:35
  Who? Wait a minute. You're this is what you know? No. It won't work.
• 1:31:40
  See? Because you have to always you have to trick people, you know, into giving up because you see what's happening in Ukraine. They won't be tricked. They've they've stood up, and and Germany's standing up. I mean, look at what they're willing to accept, the suffering they're willing to engage because they know this is their future.
• 1:32:00
  This is their children's future. So if you get these people, if they go too far, the the traders, the fifth column that we and we have a fifth column here. There is no doubt. There's communist fronts.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Explain to our our the people that are watching what a fifth column is?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: It comes from the war, you know, from the the Roman civil war, and it's like you have the four columns, you know, that make up that are in an army, but the fifth column is the one that's inside the enemy, the one that's gonna open the gates of the city and let the enemy come in. And and so we've had for a long time a communist party in this country. There's, also the revolutionary communist party, which is a CCP, connected party. You've got, Black Lives Matter with two trained Marxist leaders who've admitted on YouTube. You can watch the videos.
• 1:32:52
  I'm not making this up. You know, we were we're we're, Marxists were trained. And there's all these CCP connections, and you've got Antifa. These are communist groups. And then you've got members of congress.
• 1:33:04
  And, the guy the go to guy on this is Trevor Loudon. Trevor has, his own, KeyWiki where he shows all the politicians and their connections to the communists that are in the congress. He wrote in a book about congress. He wrote in a book about Obama and Obama's communist backgrounds. And and, you know, you're reading this, you're just shocked.
• 1:33:26
  How could we let these people be elected? How could we let them make policy in our country? And they pretend to be middle of the road, and they fool a lot of people. But, see, it's like ever since 1991, all the communists in the world stopped calling themselves communists all at once. It's almost like they all got the same memo.
• 1:33:44
  Alright. Now you don't say you're a communist anymore. You say you're a social democrat or you say you're a liberal or you say but you don't say you're a communist. So and that goes for the Russians and the people in Eastern Europe that were in that those Soviet structures and the Chinese. And you had people like even, former president Clinton saying, all the Chinese leaders, they're not really communists.
• 1:34:07
  You know? They're really capitalists. Well, now we see.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: It it this is all the They're like Yuri Bezemanov said. Right? Until their boot is on your back. Right?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: Until right. Because deception is
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Trevor Loudon's Wiki here.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That is very valuable. If you if you have questions about a politician or a person, you go to Trevor's site and you look them up, and you you'll find he's got the Communist Front Organization connection listed.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: KeyWiki.org. So this is this is Trevor's site where you can basically look up a politician and see how connected they are to the communists.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Mhmm. Yeah. Oh, man. And you'd you'd be shocked
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: to type in Joe Biden.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: He no. Joe Biden's bad. I mean, Joe Biden got into the senate through Arm and Hammer who and I've said this before. It's in Edward J. Epstein's hammer file.
• 1:34:56
  And then you go to the Council for a Livable World, which is a communist front founded by communists that supported him. And he says wonderful things about them. Right? So it's not innocent when you have communist friends who are helping you. Why would they be helping you?
• 1:35:17
  That's the question that people have to ask. And then why are you helping them? And then you're getting money through your son. You know, he's got what in his taxes. Joe Biden has, how many million he can account for?
• 1:35:31
  Was it $2,000,000 he couldn't account for in his own personal income?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: That's all we know about.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where this money came from. I can't remember. Right? So we got a real problem here. They've gotten away with it so blatantly because Obama put Marxist radicals in the Justice Department so they won't prosecute their own.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, which was we're seeing that now or in Soros, all the control they have over the the the district attorneys and everything.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: So we have a serious fifth column problem here, and it's related it's to the communist. And it's really related to the communist Chinese through our economy got the really bigger toehold than the Russians ever got. The Russians were pretty deep in our system. A lot of compromise there, but, man, the Chinese really did a number on us.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And and their control over Wall Street. You know, because I interviewed general Robert Spaulding recently, and he was telling me how he went to numerous organizations to try to point out, like, the CCP is coming after us. You know, please read this book called unrestricted warfare. And, you know, he's met with just, you know, closed doors, and no one wanted to hear it.
• 1:36:37
  Even people that was their job to understand the threat of China, they didn't wanna hear at a certain point. And he he realized that even so much even these big conservative think tanks that should have been were still being controlled by the CCP. But, actually, that leads me to a question from chicken coop lady who asks, how much of our government is compromised?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: Well, like you were just saying, look. Politicians and think tanks and political groups are funded by corporations that then get into deals with China, and the Chinese threaten them. Oh, you're supporting this politician or this. We don't want him saying this. And then it, like, we gotta cut off your money if you don't.
• 1:37:20
  You know? And it's like so you've got, what what you would think is a is a famous conservative organization, and suddenly their mum about China or the the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, this is how subtle how the control works, how they get to do this. So it's hard to quantify how bad it is, but you can kind of observe it. And, you know, like I said about Nancy Pelosi going to Taiwan, she this is she's covering her tracks by doing this, by making this very big publicity. And the Chinese are helping her by threatening to shoot down her plane.
• 1:38:00
  They're making her into an anti CCP hero, and she's not. Right? This is fake.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: You know, Scott Monson literally just the question popped up who said, during this communist global takeover attempt, of your hour, do you think that Pelosi is trying to defect or escape defect and escape prosecution?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it's right now, it's in terms of public perception. They're they're always playing the war of, the information war of winning people over to them, and it's like they realize they're vulnerable. Look. Joe Biden and his son are vulnerable. Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom is vulnerable.
• 1:38:37
  All of these, especially the California politicians, are very vulnerable on the on China. And so they're they've got to now be vocal and do this posturing even though all the pension funds for the California state employees have been invested into China.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: Right? It's like, oh, who in Sacramento was guilty of doing that? So you have you have this thing where we have to disinvest and all those people that push that investment and its politicians and its university presidents, you know, that universities pension funds and and more and more. And it's like there has to be an accounting. And when when when people finally say, oh, no, we know there's going to be an accounting.
• 1:39:22
  This is why Nancy Pelosi is running to get this publicity because then later she can say, well, yeah, I made these mistakes, but now I realize that I'm standing up to them. Forgive me. Right? That's up to people whether they forgive these politicians personally. No.
• 1:39:39
  Your job was to be a leader, which means you're not the first to follow. You're leading and you're leading in the right direction and you are leading in the wrong direction. And just because you run back and you see what's happening, you're going to go save your bacon. No, you're not. I want a leader who ten years before these problems have are warning us about China.
• 1:39:59
  I don't want somebody who's getting on the boat late and then having this big grandstanding and this big dramatic thing they're doing. It's like it's total phony baloney. You know? It's just grandstanding.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: No. Absolutely. It it's it's just interesting because these same people that are trying to destroy democracy in America, pack the supreme court, take away our guns, etcetera, are now Yeah. Up in arms to protect democracy in places like Taiwan and Ukraine.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: See, they did the same thing. They knew Russia. They were signaled, I believe, and I've said this before. They were signaled by the Russians in advance that, you know, you you're gonna wanna get ahead of the curve. The Russians were very polite.
• 1:40:36
  They warned their friends and Americans, said, you you gotta posture against us or you're gonna get caught up in what we're gonna do because they were gonna push on Ukraine. They knew they might need to take Ukraine back. So these people got ahead of the curve. On China, they didn't quite get the warning that early. But they're you see, they're all running to do it.
• 1:40:56
  The same thing they did, denouncing Russia. These people were helping Russia. You know, the Democratic Party, their leaders, Obama, Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, they built Russia's they gave billions to build Russia's Silicon Valley. They they helped them with the uranium one deal. They were they were helping them with tech transfers.
• 1:41:16
  Look. The Clintons were helping China with tech transfers when Bill Clinton was president. You know? And you had the head of judicial wash, Larry Klayman, told me years ago. He said, yeah.
• 1:41:27
  I had testimony from Chinese businessmen that they were delivering, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to the White House, and Hillary Clinton was taking the money. And it was from the CCP. And this is what Larry Klayman has claimed for years when he was head of judicial watch. So this isn't to start yesterday and for them to run and say, after they did all this damage and they built up China, no, they need to they need to be held accountable for what they've done in the past. And the American public can't be believing their new act.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I I would love to see a Nuremberg type trial, you know, against communism that ends up with people being taken out of Gitmo. So I've I've got one way. It's it's four forty four, which I really appreciate this. Do you have time for one more question?
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: So this is from metal avenger of on rise TV who says, speaking of California and American public, California has just declared a state of emergency because of monkeypox. What are your thoughts on this? How does this it is interesting timing that monkeypox is now emerging.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: I haven't followed it too closely. I understand some people are saying that this might be a new bioweapon. I believe it's sexually transmitted. So if as long as you are behaving correctly, you should not worry about it. In California, of course, they like that, other kind of behavior.
• 1:42:57
  So maybe they're more worried about it spreading there. I don't think it's that lethal yet. Do you know what the lethality of
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: it is? Seem to be yet. Yeah. I agree.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just very uncomfortable and nasty. So but I I don't know. You know, one of the things the Chinese sources have said is that there is they have a hemorrhagic fever weapon. And what I'm told is it doesn't really work all that well because their viral weapons are not as good the Chinese viral weapons are not as good as they may be hoped.
• 1:43:31
  And maybe what they did is they tested the Namaan Gulag Prisoners who didn't have very good vitamin D or zinc. So they maybe looked better as weapons than when they're used against Americans who have a better diet. So, I I wouldn't you know, if we have, another pandemic, you know, we we may wanna observe certain rules, but let's not panic and and and let's not do it the wrong way this time. Let's follow the protocols that were worked out years before rather than following a Chinese model of how to react to it.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: I think fundamentally, which which has been a a point brought multiple times, is that making the right moral decision is the best way to ensure your safety, whether you're somebody that is, you know, renouncing the Chinese Communist Party or taking a moral stance here in America to stand up for freedom and everything against, you know, your reputation or whatever it is. Like, now now is the time. I believe that now is the time that God is watching all of us and saying, what decision are you gonna make? And you said it before. It's like, look, if we're if we're immortal, then what does what what matters of our decisions right now in terms of holding on to you know, what's in front of us versus what's potentially the rest of our existence.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a scripture in the New Testament. It says, where Christ says, the first will be last, and the last will be first. And whoever tries to save their life will lose it. But if they lose their life for my sake, they will save it.
• 1:45:00
  So if if you take Christ as the way and the truth, standing for the truth is the key thing. You're you you may suffer, but you're gonna save your soul. And it turns out a lot of times, you save more than your soul. You might even save your country.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Important message. So, Jeff, thank you so much. Actually, before you go, Kate, can you bring up Jeff's blog? I wanna show people Jeff's blog and encourage everyone that's watching here to please visit your blog, which is jrnyquist.blog.
• 1:45:34
  Let me pull it up for you because and this is where I've found a wealth of information here. Some of your different articles, and you you published different things here. And just, you know, the wisdom that has come out through this interview comes out tenfold, I feel, in in your writings where you have time to really detail in, and you can pull out quotes and everything. So I just wanna encourage people to go make sure, know, subscribe. Do you have a newsletter people can subscribe to?
• 1:45:59
  Or how can
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: you It's just the blog, JRNyquist.blog, and I try to do everything there. And, you know, I I do have a PayPal button for those who want to help support me.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: And I that PayPal button at? Because that's really important.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's usually at the bottom of below the article or below the video. It's right down there.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: And that's how people can support my work, and that's what keeps me going.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So yeah. And I really wanna encourage people, you know, that if you can, if you have if you have the opportunity, Jeff is doing some really, really important work. So if you wanna support him, here's how you do it, and also buying his book. Right?
• 1:46:36
  So
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The fool and his enemy. I've got a new book coming out later this month, by the
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: What's it called?
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: It's called the lies we believe in, and that's gonna be coming out on Amazon later this month. And, of course, on Amazon, you can buy The Fool and His Enemy, and I usually put a little link at the bottom of my articles to that too. So it's a it's it is a short read, it kinda gives you a lot of detail. I like to footnote everything so people can then find other readings, and they can check out what I'm saying is not I'm not just inventing stuff. It's actually it's actually researched.
• 1:47:10
  So
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Great. Well, Jeff, thank you again very, very much. And and for everyone that's watching, thank you for being with us. If you're you're part of Rise TV, giant hugs and thank you to you. And if you're not, that's also okay.
• 1:47:23
  But if you do wanna help, the number one thing you can do is share this video. So when you finish watching it, email it to some friends. Say, please watch this. Especially, I think that these these kinds of conversations are really important, especially for people that are on the different side of the political aisle as you might be, because this is it's really about us understanding that there is one common enemy that we shouldn't be fighting against our neighbors and, you know, etcetera. There's one common enemy that we have to unite around, and that's how we're gonna make it through this.
• 1:47:50
  So sharing is a is a great tool in that. So, Jeff, thanks again. I I think that with how things are progressing, we'll probably be seeing you again soon for an update on how things are unfolding. And again, sorry folks for the technical issues at the beginning, but I think we ended up having a fantastic interview. So thank you everybody.
• 1:48:09
  And thank you again, Jeff. All right, take care.