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Final Vikings Roster Thoughts, Micah Parsons and the NFC North, Week 1 Bears Preview | TSH Ep. 103 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes Frommowa. We like drinking beer,
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Viking yep.
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  Speaker 2: And the beer we drank tonight was one that we've
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  Speaker 2: had before, but darn it if it wasn't just as
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  Speaker 2: good as we had it the last time.
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  Speaker 1: Super great beer. We're also going to give you our
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  Speaker 1: final thoughts on this twenty twenty five Vikings roster, and
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  Speaker 1: we even kind of take a look at who might
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  Speaker 1: make their first Pro Bowl of their career yep.
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  Speaker 2: And we even expanded it out a little bit. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about the rest of the NFC North a little
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  Speaker 2: bit and maybe even speculated if the Packers just bought
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  Speaker 2: some damaged goods yep.
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  Speaker 1: And then we finished things off by previewing Week one,
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  Speaker 1: which would be a week from right now as we're
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  Speaker 1: recording this Monday night football against the Bears. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be a great game, hopefully Viking Vikings victory.
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  Speaker 2: But until then, grab a cold one and join us
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Well, let's get into the beer here. Fun fact,
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  Speaker 1: actually two fun facts about the beer tonight. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: we've had this beer on an episode before. I forget
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  Speaker 1: what episode it is. I'd have to go back and
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  Speaker 1: look at our list here, and I'll do that in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. But I went to the store with my
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  Speaker 1: brother in law, Jason, fellow Vikings fan, possibly future guests
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  Speaker 1: on the show Awesome, and I said, hey, why don't
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  Speaker 1: you pick the beer tonight? And I said, it's got
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  Speaker 1: to be an Iowa beer, but other than that, So
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  Speaker 1: we scanned the shelves for quite a while.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a lot of control. He could have picked something.
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  Speaker 1: I pointed out the pickle beer that's still on the
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  Speaker 1: shelf there. I pointed out the Neon from Barntown that
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  Speaker 1: we had last week that was really good. There was
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  Speaker 1: another one that they had, cotton Candy sour that I
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, I've thought about that one. He goes
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  Speaker 1: that one's really expensive. Though he landed on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Hold my pretzel out of a single speed in Waterloo,
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  Speaker 1: and we've had this one. I remember this being a
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  Speaker 1: really good beer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, and we're right in it. We are
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  Speaker 2: in october Fest time right now. I think recently in
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  Speaker 2: the Amana Colonies they had their october Fest, like even
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  Speaker 2: this previous weekend. And I might be wrong on that,
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  Speaker 2: but I think they did yeah, and we've had this
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  Speaker 2: one before. The second you pulled it out of the fridge,
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  Speaker 2: I was stoked. I was like, oh, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Your wife can attest to that. She was standing right
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  Speaker 2: there when when I noticed which one it was. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited for this one. Thank you Jason for picking
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  Speaker 2: this one out. And yeah, let's double down. I'll back
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  Speaker 2: it up. Let's have him on the show because he's
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  Speaker 2: a good Vikings fan. We have attended a Vikings game
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  Speaker 2: with him, yes, and yeah, he'd be fun to him
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  Speaker 2: on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so formal invitation, Jason, come on down, you can
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  Speaker 1: sit right here with us. And is he a beer guy?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, that's why we went to the
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  Speaker 1: store together. Oh sure, we were at our in laws
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  Speaker 1: and there was no beer there. We had to go
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  Speaker 1: out and get some. We got a hazy little thing. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a good one too. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, Well, I'm really excited for this one.
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  Speaker 2: It's got really great head retention, just an awesome golden
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  Speaker 2: brown color but not too dark.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fest beer.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know, there's what's the content here?
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  Speaker 1: So it's five point nine five.
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  Speaker 2: Point nine so solid content, nothing that's going to kill
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  Speaker 2: you the next day. But yeah, enough, so let's dive
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  Speaker 2: in school school.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everything that I want a beer to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I need like a fire going in front
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  Speaker 2: of us. Yep, nice little chill in the air, maybe
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  Speaker 2: wearing a hoodie celebrating a nice Vikings win earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the day.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's go.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good beer.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting there too. Like, the season starts a week
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  Speaker 1: from right now, like literally seven days from now. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to be hopefully live streaming, Yeah, during the Bears
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  Speaker 1: game Monday night, so stay tuned on YouTube for that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll live stream on YouTube. And we've been talking about
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  Speaker 1: maybe kind of piggybacking off of the live stream and
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  Speaker 1: doing some content with that too, So we will have
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  Speaker 1: a normal episode next week as well in addition to
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  Speaker 1: the live stream. We're just working through the logistics on that.
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  Speaker 1: But we're there, man, Like today's Labor day, it's September first,
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  Speaker 1: we're headed towards fall.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, we're here. Football season is here. College football started
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  Speaker 2: this past weekend. I watched a lot of college football
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  Speaker 2: front of the show. Forest is a diehard Michigan fan.
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  Speaker 2: He was pretty happy about that. He and I actually
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  Speaker 2: have a running joke whenever Michigan wins, I'll text him
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  Speaker 2: just sarcastically and just be like, hey, man, sorry about
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  Speaker 2: Michigan today.
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  Speaker 1: That's tough.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been known to do the same about Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fair weather, not die hard, but I'm definitely
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  Speaker 2: an Iowa fan. And yeah, they won, they won pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: But man, that quarterback. I think the kicker had more
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  Speaker 2: yards in his one very successful kick than the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: had passing all day.
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  Speaker 1: So because you're an Iowa fan, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you watched this, but Iowa States kicker, yeah, you see
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  Speaker 1: sixty three yards? Crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Iowa State is they're showing something so far this year
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  Speaker 2: after two games Iowa. Yeah, they won by a pretty
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  Speaker 2: decent margin. But that's what you're supposed to do when
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  Speaker 2: you're playing against you Albany in the first game of
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  Speaker 2: the season. And we'll see because this by the next
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  Speaker 2: time we record, Iowa and Iowa State will play the
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  Speaker 2: Sie Howk game, and I'm pretty fearful for Iowa in
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  Speaker 2: that game. But we are not an Iowa podcast, Iowa
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  Speaker 2: Hawkeyes podcast. We are not a college football podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I like to talk about. We're here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings. That is true, Hence the scoll, hence all
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  Speaker 1: the other stuff that you see behind us. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. And we haven't even seen
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  Speaker 1: them play a game yet, not a regular season game.
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  Speaker 1: Not a regular season game. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess most recently the biggest things that have happened,
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  Speaker 2: specifically for the Vikings, the roster has been finalized. The
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  Speaker 2: Vikings Twitter succeeded yet again. That's almost like a whole
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  Speaker 2: podcast episode worth of Like since Quasi has been the GM,
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  Speaker 2: it really feels like Vikings Twitter has had some sway
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  Speaker 2: in some of these roster moves. Again, another topic for
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  Speaker 2: another day, but one of those moves really felt like
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  Speaker 2: Adam Thielen coming home break out the Nineteens again. He's back,
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  Speaker 2: and just today it was announced. Over the summer, Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Barr kind of officially tweeted out or whatever over the
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  Speaker 2: summer like yeah, I'm retiring. But today the Vikings actually
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  Speaker 2: had like a press conference for him and did like
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  Speaker 2: officially honoring I don't know if they signed like a
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  Speaker 2: one day contract or not, but it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: that idea of what they did. Eric Kendricks was there
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  Speaker 2: kind of introducing him a longtime teammate and friend. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Barr, former Vikings first round pick, four time pro bowler,
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  Speaker 2: officially retired and was honored by the Vikings today. That
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  Speaker 2: was pretty cool for them to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really cool. I wish he could have played
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  Speaker 1: his entire career in Minnesota. Yeah, I know that it
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  Speaker 1: was a business decision there. There were no hard feelings
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  Speaker 1: with Minnesota, I don't think. But man, he's one of
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  Speaker 1: those legendary Vikings linebackers that will tell our kids about
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  Speaker 1: someday and our kids will tell their kids about probably
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  Speaker 1: some day. I don't know. That's that's kind of a lot.
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  Speaker 1: He was pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: He had a good run, but he wasn't like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, MVP level. Some of those Vikings defenses
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  Speaker 1: under Mike Zimmer they were they were they were really was.
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  Speaker 1: He was at the core.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest things I'll remember Anthony Barr for
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  Speaker 2: is well, first off, somehow Anthony or Anthony Barr, Paul Allen,
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  Speaker 2: the like day of the draft on KFA N, they
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  Speaker 2: do like a you know, right before the draft, they
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  Speaker 2: do like a mock draft, Like I think this might
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  Speaker 2: happen out of nowhere, the like day of or day
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  Speaker 2: before the draft. Paul Allen's like, you know, I think, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Barr, this kid nobody's been talking about for the Vikings,
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  Speaker 2: they might be interested in him. It's like what nobody's
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  Speaker 2: mocked him, nobody's done anything. But apparently Paul Allen had
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  Speaker 2: some seam that the Vikings were interested and it ended
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  Speaker 2: up being true. But a couple other things. I think,
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  Speaker 2: either his rookie year or his second year, There's a
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  Speaker 2: game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and uh, Barr picked
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  Speaker 2: up a fumble in overtime and reined it in to
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  Speaker 2: win a game. But then obviously the collarbone breaking tackle
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  Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, that knocked Rogers out for
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  Speaker 2: the year. And I think Packer fans, some a very
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  Speaker 2: small minority of terrible Packer fans will still give Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Barr death threats.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we were driving, I think we were on
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  Speaker 1: our way back from Minnesota, uh, and I was listening
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  Speaker 1: to that game on the radio. I was listening to
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  Speaker 1: Paul Allen call that game, and it happened he broke
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers collarbone. And then for the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 1: That's all Paul Allen could talk about him. He'd call
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  Speaker 1: the play and like, oh yeah, plays over. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Anthony Barr just broke Aaron Rodgers collarbone.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, I'd call a couple more plays.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And if you were, if you're just tuning in,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Barr broke his collar. It was so funny. I
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  Speaker 1: was pretty excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Bar, I thought he bounced around a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than he actually did. I just looked at
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  Speaker 2: up any bar Cowboys, right, yep. He was a Viking
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  Speaker 2: from twenty fourteen through twenty twenty one, and then in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two he signed with the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Was that a year that Mike Zimmer was with I
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  Speaker 2: think that might have been even before Zimmer went to
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  Speaker 2: Dallas for his most recent stint there. Not important. But
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  Speaker 2: then in twenty twenty three, a portion of the way
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  Speaker 2: through the season, like towards the end of the season,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings ended up signing Bar off the street again,
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  Speaker 2: where he wore a number fifty four, which was kind
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  Speaker 2: of weird to see because Eric Kendricks was always fifty
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  Speaker 2: four to one bar was on the team. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: solid Viking, four time pro bowler, first round pick. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's one of those that, like you're not upset about
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  Speaker 2: his career as a first round pick. But also, I'll
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  Speaker 2: say it again, I think you were a little too
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  Speaker 2: kind there and a few minutes ago. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he was, you know, defensive player of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: He was always solid, he was good, nothing to be
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  Speaker 2: upset about.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll go down as a as a really
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  Speaker 1: good Viking player.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, he's probably even like on the bubble
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  Speaker 2: of like a ring of honored kind of guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: definitely worth what the team gave him today, which was
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  Speaker 2: like a hey, kngrats on your career and you know,
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  Speaker 2: kringrats on your retirement. But I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: it's like ring of honor worthy, like he was really good.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's a debate we can we can have
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  Speaker 2: another time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've got plenty of other stuff to talk about
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  Speaker 1: with what's coming up here. Let's talk about this roster,
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  Speaker 1: the fifty three man because we talked about cut down
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  Speaker 1: day and some surprise cuts. Who got cut, who made
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  Speaker 1: the roster, all of that, but I think most of
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: what we talked about last week was Adam Adam feeling.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we were both wearing our nineteen jerseys and I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought about wearing it tonight again. I just I didn't,
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  Speaker 2: but I thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what else on the roster excites you or worries you?
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  Speaker 1: What are you most looking forward to with this roster?
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  Speaker 2: So I think we can even just call it strengths
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  Speaker 2: and weaknesses. I think right now, at this moment, the
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver position for me is a weakness. But when
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  Speaker 2: everything's everyone's healthy and everyone's office suspension, everything, I think
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  Speaker 2: that'll pretty quickly flip and become a strength. Whenever you
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  Speaker 2: have the best player in football in Justin Jefferson, it
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  Speaker 2: starts from there. That's all right, automatically a strength and
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  Speaker 2: something that a very young, inexperienced quarterback and JJ McCarthy
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  Speaker 2: will lean upon. But as it sits right now with
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor, we don't know his health there. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing tweets about how the Vikings are optimistic they'll
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  Speaker 2: have him week one here in a week from now,
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  Speaker 2: but that's still kind of concerning, like a guy that
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: should be starter level they're optimistic he'll be on the field. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of concerning. You had to trade for Adam Thielen,
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  Speaker 2: which was mostly necessitated by a suspension by your borderline
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  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl guy in Jordan Addison, and then frankly, we
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen Justin Jefferson play football preseason practice at all
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  Speaker 2: since you know, the beginning of twenty twenty five, like January.
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  Speaker 2: So like there's still a question mark there for me too.
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  Speaker 2: So right now it's kind of a weakness wide receivers,
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  Speaker 2: but very quickly it could become one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: strengths in the NFL. Can you think of any other Well,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think about that? And can you think
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  Speaker 2: of any other strengths or weaknesses?
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  Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you on wide receivers. I think
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  Speaker 1: the cornerback room is also kind of a question mark,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one that they didn't really address at all
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  Speaker 1: in the draft or free agency. You've got Byron Murphy
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  Speaker 1: and Isaiah Rodgers. I think that are probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be the starters, and then you've got Dwight mcglothern and
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Okudah backing them up. I don't know. I still
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: go back to the Zimmer days of I think he
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  Speaker 1: used to carry more corners and safeties than anything on
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  Speaker 1: the defense, so to have only four seems like they
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: might be missing something. And then Byron Murphy's really the
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  Speaker 1: only household name in that list of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even then, he's coming off a steam of
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: last year, which was really good for him. But before then,
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  Speaker 2: like he's always been like about to break out, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's just another week point on the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: roster and something they may have to address. I think
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: what Quasi has shown us is that he's willing to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: make moves anytime. Oh yeah, absolutely, it doesn't matter if
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: it's you know, July, or if it's before week one,
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  Speaker 1: or if it's you know, three weeks, five weeks before
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  Speaker 1: the trade deadline, whatever. He'll go out and get a player.
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  Speaker 1: If that's what the team needs, and if that's what
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell and the other coaches are pushing for, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he'll go find a guy. So I wouldn't be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: This is maybe slightly a hot take. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: surprised if there's some sort of movement for a cornerback
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  Speaker 1: in the early part of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a couple points I want to make here. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: was kind of surprised when they announced the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: One name should have been recognizable, and that's veteran Fabian Morrow,
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  Speaker 2: who kind of came in two years ago and started
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  Speaker 2: some games and played okay, you know, again, nothing you're
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: going to be mad about, but also not like, you know, crazy,
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  Speaker 2: pro Bowl worthy, you know, all pro kind of guy.
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  Speaker 2: But he's on the practice squad and I would almost
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: fully expect him, at least for the first couple of games,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: for them to pull him up and dress him on
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: game day as a practice squad player, because that's something
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: they've been able to do now for two or three years.
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  Speaker 2: And I would expect him to be a contributor on
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: defense even while he's on practice squad. I think they
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: can do that, like it's either two times per player
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: or three times per player, and as long as they can,
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  Speaker 2: they will do that. Another thing, they kind of signed
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  Speaker 2: another safety, which I think is kind of their another
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  Speaker 2: safety to the practice squad.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: K Levon. I don't Kevon Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: Kevon Wallace, Yeah, And I think that's kind of their
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: mindset with him if they have to, because Harrison Smith
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: has all of a sudden been out for the last
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: three ish weeks for what they're calling a personal reason.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's one of those.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: It could be as you know, devastating, as like he's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: got cancer or which is totally speculative in speculation, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: like or it could be something as simple as like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: he's helping a family member. Again, the way they're saying it,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: it's none of our business. But either way, that's another
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: one they're saying. Oh, they're they're hopeful he'll be back
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: by week one. So I think that's their mindset with
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: signing that other safety Wallace to the practice squad. He's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: a guy that could dress as a practice squad player.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And I don't think we talked about it, even with
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the concerns, because I agree with you, I think cornerback
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: defensive back is a little concerning right now. But even
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: with those concerns, the Vikings still decided to trade away
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Makai Blackman.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for was it. I think it was like.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Two picks, a fifth and maybe something else to the Colts,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: which tells me a lot about what they think about Blackman,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: because that's a position of need right now. If you've
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: listened to Front of the Show, Dustin Baker at all
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: for the last year. Whenever he's mentioned Makai Blackman, it's like, hey, guys,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: cornerback's gonna be okay, because look, there's this guy that's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: been injured. He was on the up and up, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: now he's coming back. It's he's gonna be helping the team.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And not to say anything bad about Dustin Baker, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: think it was a surprise that Blackman was coming on
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: slow and wasn't looking that awesome in preseason. So yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I think you're hitting the nail on the head by
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: saying defensive back and quarnerbacks are a concerning position for
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the Vikings this at this point, right before the season.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Black Man was traded for a sixth rounder, Oh just
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: okay to the Colts.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that tells a lot about a guy that you
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: drafted Quasy drafted in the second round, I believe, just
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a few years ago.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think those two position groups are definitely
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the weakest. I also think it's not necessarily a strength
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: or a weakness. It's just a big question mark at
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: this point. And that's this totally revamped quarterback room, Like
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you have no quarterbacks that were on this team last year.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: This year, like there's no turnover and.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: You're right, but was on the roster.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: He was on the roster. I should rephrase it that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: no quarterbacks that actually saw the field. You're right, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: know what you're saying. And and you know, JJ, it's gonna
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: be this weird red shirt rookie thing. He's gonna feel
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like a rookie. When I watched him in the first
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: preseason game when I was there, he felt like a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. He's not a rookie, but he's gonna feel
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like one, I think, and I think I think even
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Week one against the Bears, we're gonna feel that way.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have those like oh moments where it's like, no,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't have done that, you know, and Koc is
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: gonna pull you off to the side and have that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like all right, I know why you did what you did,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: but this is what you should have done instead, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: next time you're gonna do that differently. He's gonna have
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of those coaching moments I think on the sideline.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But I think the point I'm trying to make too
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is that KOs has proven that he doesn't need that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like lengthy history with these quarterbacks to get the most
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: out of them. JJ has some history, But I still
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: think there's a big question mark there, right. I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that's what Vikings fans are so eager for, is how
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is this going to play out? Because Dustin Baker has
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: said and we've kind of parroted him a little bit,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like JJ just has to be good. Yeah, he doesn't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: have to be great. He doesn't have to be Patrick Mahomes,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be this like, you know, amazing whatever.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: He just has to be good. I was telling Jason,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: my brother in law, in the car on the way
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to get these beers tonight, like JJ just has to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: be good. He just game manager, don't make stupid decisions,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and don't try to be the hero. And I think
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I think we'll get what we need to out of him.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So absolutely it's a question mark. Again, it's not a strength,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it's not a weakness. It's a big old question mark.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And the other quarterbacks too, what dynamic do they add?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You know with Brozemer and Carson Wentz in the room,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: now you know JJ's used to Sam Darnold and Brett
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Rippen and who's the other mullen man? I feel bad
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: for forgetting his name. I know he was. He's one
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of those forgettable guys unfortunately BDN. Yeah. Anyways, big question
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: mark on the quarterback room as a whole. How will
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: JJ perform? And we're bringing Wentz and Brosmer in the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: right moves, you know, I think we're all thinking Brosmer
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is probably going to be the third string practice squad guy,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: maybe the emergency third, Probably the emergency third. I think
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is probably the proverbial number two. I would
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: see why he wouldn't be.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And Brosmer he's not on the practice squad. He's on
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the full fledged fifty three man roster. You're right, you should. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: thanks for correcting me, But I think what you're getting at,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I think that third emergency quarterback.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It's kind of this weird great area.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: There's there's some confusion there, and I can see why
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: people would think, like, oh, practice squad, because on there's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you know, for an NFL team, there's a practice squad,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: there's the fully fifty three man roster, and then on
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: game day, out of your really fifty three and practice squad,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: now you can only dress and utilize forty six players,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of people listening right now. They're like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I know all this whatever, but you can only dress
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: forty six players, so it's like another level of that,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that final roster. But I believe, and listeners please comment
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. Your third quarterback doesn't count
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: towards that forty six man game day, which is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Why they're designated as like this emergency.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Physically, yeah, and once they come in, there can be
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: no other quarterbacks, Like your second or first stringer can't
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: come back in. It's those it's that guy, the third
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: string guy, or it's you know, your running back or
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: your wide receiver or whoever.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: If you only need like one play before you throw
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that guy in, you're gonna put like a wildcat play
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: in or something. But yeah, I think Brozner for sure.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I mean definitely week one, you're looking at JJ Carson
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Wentz as QB two, and then Brozemer as that QB three.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It will be will be telling if at all we
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: ever see like, hey, Carson Wentz isn't dressing today, he's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a healthy scratch. I don't know why we would ever,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you know, speculate that right now, but that would tell
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: me all I need to know about Max brosnmer if
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: there was no like injury for Winz and he just
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: wasn't dressing that day, Like oh okay that. As Vikings
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: fans looking for the future, we kind of would be
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: happy about that because that says a lot of great things.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is not gonna be a Viking three years
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: from now. He's definitely a Viking right now, maybe next year,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: depending on where everything goes. But like I mean it,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: he's probably still looking to, you know, be a spot starter,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: be someone that hey needs a bridge quarterback, needs a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnald for a year, Like that's probably what Carson
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Wentz is looking for right now. He's thirty two ish
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: years old. But at this moment he is JJ McCarthy insurance.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And he's also a chaos protege, right Like he is
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: kind of the Sam Donald Nick Mullen's, you know, Brett Rippen,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Like he is kind of that guy that gets to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: sit under the tutelage of this like quarterback whisperer whatever
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: else we want to call him, Like he's just he's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: got away with quarterbacks. I heard it. I heard chaos
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in an interview, and I'm not going to recall like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: even fifty percent of what he said, but the gist
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of what he said was basically like when I was
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in the league, I didn't have somebody that helped me
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: figure this stuff out. And like, I think he just
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like is genuinely passionate about Like I understand what they
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: see when they are standing under center and they look
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: out and see the opposing defense, and I know how
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to help them discern that better and how to make
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: better decisions and how to manage the game better. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's what makes him a heck of a coach.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And I mean, we've seen him go on to have
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: winning seasons, and it's two of his first three seasons,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and he would have probably had a third had it
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: not been for his starting quarterback and the best wide
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: receiver in the league get injured in the same year.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yep. So well, Yes, I think being weary about the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: quarterback position is valid just because there's so many unknowns.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It's not that I'm wary about it, It's just that
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I'm it's a question mark. We just don't know what
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we don't know, right, There's an it's the element of
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the unknown that's driving all of that. Not this like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: oh man, JJ is going to be terrible. You know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it's just we don't know. Maybe we did strike gold Vikings,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: found the next Patrick Mahomes and it's going to be
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, ten years of awesomeness. Or maybe it's a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I saw something today that you know, maybe it's a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Christian ponder situation to be like, man drafted so high,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: had so much potential, would be so disappointing totally just
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you know, that's okay because we've got Max Brosmur.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He's going to be the next Ma Home. That is
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the thing. How many fans, how long do we go
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: until fans quote unquote fans are clamoring for bros Mur
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to get the QB one job, and we don't want
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: that right now. We'd rather WinCE than I think.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think you give JJ McCarthy the keys through the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: bye week, for sure, even if you go zero to five.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and there's a route where a team can be terrible,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but it's not just because of the quarterback. Just like
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: there's a route where a team can be amazing, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: that's in spite of the quarterback. You know, you can
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: go every way.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: This defense only got better, hopefully in the offseason though,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: so it's I don't think it will be because of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the defense unless there's all of a sudden, these like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: major injuries that like you know, Jonathan Allen and Hargrave
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and Vnknkle and cash Man just pack it up, you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: all the all these guys are hurt. Then it's like, well, okay,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that sucks, But I don't those guys are like tough
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: nosed football guys, like they're they're not gonna be the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: ones that are gonna let like turf toe keep them
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: out of a game. Take that up pretty bad and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: put me out there, all right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It's kind of on our outline here, but not necessarily.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I got a.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Question for you, all right, and I would expect you
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to ask it of me too. If you had to
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: pick one a guy that has never made the Pro Bowl,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: who do you think could be primed for his first
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl appearance as a Viking or just in his
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: career this year?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And see some of these guys I don't even know
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: if they've been to the Pro Bowl or we can.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can say a name, and that's good, hmm,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: because I know who I've got. But I have the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: benefit of being able to think of this question.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Did Jordan Mason go to the Pro Bowl last year?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's let's look because I was talking
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: with my brother in law, Jason today about the running
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: back situation.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: According to Pro Football Reference, he has never made a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna say Jordan Mason because
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the discussion with Jason today was that Jordan Mason could
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: end up supplanting Aaron Jones as the RB one in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: terms of workload carries. Jordan Mason, I think is less
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of a out of the backfield receiving type of running
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: back and more of just your traditional half pack. Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: In three seasons, Mason has something like one hundred receiving yards,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: so not a ton.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Not many. So anyways, I think as a as a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: pure running back, I can see him. Yeah, And I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: think with this revamped offensive line, a new center that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be much better at run blocking, I'll go
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: with Jordan Mason. All right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's definitely one that I thought of
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: when I thought up that question. Here a few minutes ago,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and you can see my computer screen, you know who
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking for. I'm surprised he hasn't been to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a ball yet though, So I'm gonna say for me,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I think Josh Mattellis is primed ready. He's now gotten
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: his second pretty decent payday. Both of them have been
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: well deserved, and he's only ever kept flourishing in the NFL.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: He started off as what was he it? Scott've got
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: it right here? A dang it well round it says,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: drafted in the sixth round. A six round pick. That's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: basically an undrafted free agent pretty much. And granted, yes,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: he was drafted by the former regime Rix Spielman. I believe, yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: definitely in twenty twenty, the same year Justin Jefferson was drafted.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: But all Mattellis has done is keep getting better and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: keep putting up better stats too. So I think if
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: anybody is primed for their first Pro Bowl on the Vikings,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: it's this guy because he's just gonna keep filling roles.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: If he can stay healthy, he's definitely gonna be able
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to put up the stats to be worthy of a
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl honor. The only question is like what position
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: is he at and does he lose his Pro Bowl
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: opportunity based off of like, oh, well, he was a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: decent linebacker and a decent safety, but overall together he
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: was really good. It's just like other peer linebackers were
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: better and other peer safeties were better. I think that's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the only thing that could screw him.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Nah, I don't know. I think purely as a safety alone,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he's got enough to I think, justify getting into the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. But the fact that he's versatile enough to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: move around to those other positions makes him a really
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: good fit. And he is perfect. He's built perfectly for
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: this Brian Flores defense where these guys are just all
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: over the place. The defense itself is built on confusing
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the opponent and not giving the same look play after play,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: drive after drive, and making it tough for the quarterback,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: specifically to get a read on, like you know, one
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: minute he's going to be you know, Cover two, playing deep,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and the next he's going to be like outside linebacker
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: coming off the edge, coming in for a sack. You know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like you just never know where he's gonna be. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I think that plays perfectly to his strengths. The other
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: thing I would say doesn't have any bearing on the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl whatsoever, But he's just a leader, like he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: got his own little segment now with the Vikings tell
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Us with mattel Us, and but I think, like it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: not just about the bells and whistles and the fame
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. Like, I truly think his teammates look up
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to him, follow his leadership. So I think he brings
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun when funds needed. But I think
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he also brings a lot of fire and passion and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: just hard work, you know. So he's one of my
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: favorite players right now. Yeah, sure, he's a good dude. Well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you've got to talk about the rest of the division though,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: because there's a pretty there's a pretty big move that
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was made. Not to shift away from the Vikings entirely,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: but we.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Would be definite homers if we didn't talk about this
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: talking point. It's an NFL changing trade.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, but I don't know if you heard did
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you hear the wrinkle in that story that came out today.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why I put it on this outline tonight.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: So obviously we're talking about Micah Parsons being traded from
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys to the Packers for we should probably look
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: it up exactly. I think definitely two first round picks
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and Kenny Clark was that it just straight up.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Think so, I don't remember exactly, you'll have to look,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: but definitely like a huge splashy trade that happened between
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the time we recorded last week's episode and now did
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you find it? Yeah, I think it's just the two
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: first rounds the Packers sent over Pro Bowl defensive tackle
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, who's admitted is still really good but getting
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: up there. I think he's like thirty uh and two
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: first round picks, one in twenty six and one in
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: twenty seven. But that's it for a.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Guy like Micah Parsons, who.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Arguably one of the best defensive players in the.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: League, absolutely generationally great, and I think the the only
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: caveat is the Packers all they had to do to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: solidify keeping him was give him the highest contract for
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a non quarterback in NFL history, which I feel like
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: we've heard that, you know, several times in the last
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: couple of years, especially when for a few minutes justin
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Jefferson was the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: just last ten minutes.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But yeah, two firsts and an aging Pro bowler.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I think most teams are making that deal any day
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: of the week. I wouldn't be bad if the Vikings
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: had made that kind of a deal, if they didn't
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: already have two Pro Bowl edge rushers in Grenard and
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Van Ginkle, unless one of those guys was a part
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: of a part of the package. But yeah, that's I mean,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys probably should have gotten more for him. But yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: there's that, there is that wrinkle that you were talking about.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: He's got some backprop. He's apparently receiving an injection so
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that he can play. Cowboys play Thursday night. By the way,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they kicked the season off. I think it's Cowboys Eagles
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I think it's in Philadelphia, but anyways, they
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: kick off the whole NFL regular season. And but yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because he's not a Cowboy.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I knew immediately, knew what was going on in your
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: head there for a second. But yeah, the Packers' hosts DISADENCT.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: They played the Lions. I don't know where it's happening,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: but yeah, there it's a divisional game against the Lions,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and that's a big deal. I mean, division games are
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: weighted heavier than just any other normal game. But personally,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I mean I do have a little bit of experience
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: with a back injury that requires an epidural. I am not,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: nor have I ever been, or ever will be, a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: professional athlete, let alone a old class athlete that sends
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: ripples up ESPN anytime I stub my toe. But for
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: about a year and a half, I personally dealt with
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: a bulging disc into my psiatic which kind of sounds
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like something similar to what he's dealing with, and the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: solution for me. I tried regular pain meds like ibuprofen,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: title and all, even like prescription a little bit stronger stuff.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I tried physical therapy, and you know that. I tried
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the tens machine, which is like an electric pad that
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you stick to the spot that hurts and it sends
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a pulse there for a half hour or whatever. The
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: only thing that worked for me was an epidural straight
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: into my back with like a steroid or I forget
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: exactly what it was. It sounds very similar to what
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they're saying the solution is for him. And again I'm
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: not a generational athlete, but that back injury kind of
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: ruined a year of my life. I couldn't sit or
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: stand at all for more than forty five minutes at
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a time. I had a newborn. I could only help
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: so much with her. My wife anytime I'm like, oh
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: my back's little tight, she's like, no, go to the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: doctor right now, because she she was a trooper and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: really took up a lot of this, you know, cooking, cleaning,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: everything in our household. For that. It wasn't the full year,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: but it was a good chunk of time. Because I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: was out of commission. I couldn't even really get out
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: of bed without help. And that's a concerning thing for
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: somebody that a team just paid one hundred and fifty
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: something million dollars too.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and maybe that's why the Cowboys were willing
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to let him go, because maybe they knew, maybe there
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: were there were some issues there. I don't know.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I did see a report today that apparently, and granted
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it was a tweet, I don't know how fully accurate
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: it was, but I guess the Packers weren't fully aware
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of his condition when they traded for him, and even
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: after the like physical physical to solidify the trade, apparently
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: they weren't fully aware of all that. But again, it
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: was a tweet. I don't know it could just be
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: way overblown.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Could be I think the silver lining for the rest
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of the NFC North is that, And I think Schefter
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: or somebody else important. Maybe it was Tom Pellisero or
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: somebody else. Somebody tweeted today saying that they wouldn't be
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: surprised if he missed some playing time, potentially a lot,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: maybe a game here, game there. But I don't know.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: If you're the other team, you're maybe going after him too. Yeah,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to come after your quarterback. But you can
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: sick your biggest guys on him too, you know, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: try to just shove him into the dirty every time
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he tries to come your way.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: All that to say, everything I dealt with was like
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. It's now. I still have not had a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: day where I don't feel some tightness, if not a
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: little bit of pain. Now granted again for the tenth time,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not a generational athlete, you know, like it's it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit different for me, which also means I
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: don't have a training staff that I can walk to, text,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: call anytime of the day, go and have all the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: equipment I could ever dream of and rehab all of that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Another thing too. Is after I saw the like, oh,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: apparently the packers weren't aware of the full extent of
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: his back situation. I did see like a minute long
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: video showing clips of him practicing as a packer, So
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: it was just in the last few days, and he
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: was doing things like with practice dummies and like actually
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: against other you know, players in shells and pads and stuff.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: He was doing things that I would have never even thought, like, oh,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: his back does not hurt him at all, Like he's fine.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: He just picked up that practice dummy, you know, the shed,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the yeah shed or whatever the sled there it is,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and he was moving it around and he looked perfectly fine,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like he's he's probably perfectly okay.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But to that point, justin Jefferson, you know, he's been
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: nursing that hyms during pretty much all the preseason, and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: we saw that one video of him just going sky high, yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and like twisting it's like a freaking bird in mid air.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Looked gorgeous, looked amazing. And yet he's still I don't
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: think is he marked questionable for Week one?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: It might be, although I've done a handful of fantasy
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: drafts in the last few days and a lot of
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: players have had like that cue next to their name
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: or like out next to their name, and justin Jefferson
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: has not had that, so I think he is. I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: think Jefferson specifically as marked as you know, he's good
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to go. But as far as Micah Parsons, if I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: were a Packer fan, I wouldn't be concerned at all,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: just purely based off of seeing that video of him practicing.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: He looks perfectly fine. Does not look like a guy
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: who has some back tightness. And if he was doing
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that in practice, maybe he had just gotten some kind
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of injection just to be able to move around. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: if that's the case, then he could just keep getting
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that before the game every game. Anyways, Packer fans should
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: be excited for this move.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: He's not.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He looks perfectly fine.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Should the rest of the NFC North be concerned? Probably?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's really good, yeah, and looks healthy. Even
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: with these reports, I think the Vikings they when Christian
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Darrisaw is perfectly healthy, which we haven't really gotten any
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: news about that other than we haven't gotten any news
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: about him being on IR or the pup list or
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: anything like that. It's just, hey, he's he's working his
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: way back and as of now he's on the full
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, not on IR. So Christian Arsaw
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: seems okay, which is amazing. I thought we weren't gonna
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: see him until midway through the season and then Brian
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: O'Neil the right tackle, he's just been one of the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: better right tackles in the league for how longins six seven,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: eight years, however long he's been in the league. I
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: think the Vikings are well equipped to handle elite players
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: on the other side. But still like he Michael Parsons
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: gets paid to like he's gonna sack JJ McCarthy at
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: some point, you know, like that's going to happen. We
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: just hope Parsons doesn't ruin a game. Every team has
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: great players, so yeah, we should be kind of aware
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: of him, but just like every team should be aware
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: of Justin Jefferson and Harrison Smith and Josh Mattelis. You know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: every team has great players, so it'll be fun. But yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he is gonna change some defensive coordinators evenings here in
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the next few months.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So I got one more question for you, and then
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: we'll move to a quick preview of week one before
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: we wrap things up for tonight. Who do you expect
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to be better off this season? And maybe we've talked
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: about this before, I can't remember, but it's worth talking
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: about again now that we're like on the heels of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the season and we have games starting on Thursday.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the next time we record will be during and
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: reacting to an NFL or regular season game.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: So who's better off the Lions or the Bears? Because
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: because right there's a lot of drama there with the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator leaving the Lions becoming the head coach of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the Bears. You've got essentially a red shirt rookie because
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams played last year. But I don't know, he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: didn't do a lot.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with the red shirt tag. He played
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: every game, all right, I know what you're saying. He's
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: still a young guy.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: He played under Assis him that was already crumbling and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that didn't really do much for
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: him anyways, And the Bears have done a lot of work.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: They brought in a new head coach, they revamped their
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: offensive line.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: To this point of Caleb Williams as a Bear has
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: had three head coaches, and which is a lot.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: The Bears look a lot different now than they did
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Week one of last year. But the Lions. Dean Campbell's
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: still there, but they lost both of their coordinators. Jared
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Goff is getting up there. He's not super old yet.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: He's not a you know, Tom Brady type quarterback yet,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. He's not young and spry like
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: he used to be either. They still have one of
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league, Jamir Gibbs, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: David Montgomery Montgomery to back him up. They've got some
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: other good weapons with I'm on Ross Saint Brown, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know who's better off, the Lions or the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Bears better off.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I think the Bears are at this moment interesting. I've
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: been pretty vocal. I really think the Lions are going
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: to feel the losses of Aaron Glenn, their previous defensive coordinator,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: excuse me, and Ben Johnson, their previous offensive coordinator. They're
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: gonna feel that. Where they'll be benefited is not only
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: last year did they have good coordinators, they also have
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: good players on their team. Jamiir Gibbs, Jared Goff, Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: he's getting a little bit older, but he's not still
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: not like ancient and then I'm a Ross Saint Brown.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody you just listed off. They have good players on
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the offense and defense, and they're probably gonna be getting
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: back Aiden Hutchinson who talk about elite pass rusher, like
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: my goodness. But you can have the world's fastest Ferrari
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and if the driver, if the guy behind the driver's
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: seat isn't doesn't know what he's doing, then you're not
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: even be able to start the car. I'm I'm happy
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to be wrong, and I will admit when I'm wrong
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: if that's true. But Dan Campbell, he seems like a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: leader of men and can raw raw guys to you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: to go into battle. But and he's got the balls
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to go forward on fourth and fifteen, he sure does.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: But Ben Johnson was the one that had to drop
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the play when you had to complete a fourth and fifteen.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson, who is now the head coach for
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the Bears, he's gone. He's not there for the Lions anymore. So,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: like I said, you can have the fastest car in
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: the world, but if you don't have a good driver
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: behind the wheel, it doesn't matter if he wants to
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: be a good driver or not. I don't think Dan
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Campbell as a play caller, because that's what he did
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: before Ben Johnson was a play caller. He called the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: offensive plays. I don't think he's up to the standards
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of what the Lions have shown for the last two seasons.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So I really think all that to say, I think
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the Bears and the Lions will truly be competing for
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the third spot in the NFC North, and I think
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the Bears might have the coaching to be able to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: edge them out either way. This is the first year
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: for the Lions out without those coordinators, and this is
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: the first year for the Bears with Ben Johnson and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: with his coaching staff and his first every year as
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a head coach, so there's gonna be a lot of
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: figuring stuff out. So I think the Bears and the
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Lions will be competing for the third spot, and then
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you got the Vikings and Packers who will be competing
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: for the first spot. I think both the Vikings and
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the Packers make the playoffs, and maybe maybe the Bears
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: squeak into the playoffs if they can figure something out.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: But I think the Lions, at least for twenty twenty five,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: they might write the ship afterwards by the Lions are
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: screwed for this coming year. You can't lose a coach
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: coaches like those guys and still be okay.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Coming back to the Packers for a second, I saw
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a really funny tweet that was like it was on
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the heels of the Micah Parsons trade, and it was
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: some knucklehead who was like, well, now we've got the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: best quarterback in the division, the best running back in
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the division, the best wide receivers in the division. I'm like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you are false on all of those claims. Jordan Love
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: is not the best quarterback in the division by a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: long shot.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Although I mean, if we really broke it down, which
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: we don't have to write now, but actually.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Like I think Jared Goff has it for now until
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: he loses it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: But then it's got to be Jordan Love because JJ
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: McCarthy can't be listed as the best. He hasn't played
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: He's unproven, and Caleb Williams had a terrible supporting cast
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: around him.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Well, just for the fact that Caleb Williams has played
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: at all in the NFL, he is by.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Definition the third best.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: He's better than JJ McCarthy right now because JJ hasn't
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: proven anything. I hope that's different. You know, a few
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: months from now we're saying, my goodness, I love that
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is so much better than Caleb Woove's. But
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: right now you'd be a lunatic to say, like, oh,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy he is better, proven, absolutely better than anybody
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: in the league. Like, no, that's just actually not true.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And I agree, and that's not what you weren't saying
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: he's the best.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but like Josh Jacobs is not the best
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: running back in the NFC North, Jimmy or Gibbs probably
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: has that locked down. The best wide receiver is obviously
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. I don't even know who this person was
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: thinking would be the best wide receiver.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: The Packers have their whole wide receiver room as a
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: room of wide receiver threes and fours.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're all like twenty two years old.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I think in the division it's gotta go, I mean,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. And then after that you're probably looking DJ
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Moore slash Aman Ross. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: a conversation to be had there, but it's not Packers.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: They don't even have the third best wide receiver in
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the division.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: And it was so it was so wildly unrelated to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: defense and Micah Parsons. It was like no, no, no, no,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you just go down the line and it's like, okay, yes,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you do now have the best probably the best defensive
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: player in the league, best edge rusher for sure.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even then, and I'm not I'm just trying
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: to be devil's advocate, Like Michael Parsons is really really good,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: you know, but also so is Jonathan Grenard. Like I'm
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: not trying to say Grenard is better than Parsons, but
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: like it's not. Parsons is not a thousand miles ahead.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: And everyone we're not talking miles ahead, but like, yeah, yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: we're Yeah, And I think the fact that the Vikings
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: have Van Ginkle and Grenard who are both like can
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: go and they've done it before, going on both sides.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I'll take two quarterbacks.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I'll take two seven's over one nine and one three.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't even know who the Packers other
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: starting edge is, but yeah, I'm very happy with where
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defense is right now outside of the cornerback position.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and who knows, maybe maybe that surprises us a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe it's a non issue. I don't know. Hopefully,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: let's talk week one. Let's get into Monday night, because
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a week from right now we're gonna be right back
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: here in the Saddle live streaming and recording, probably kind
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: of pulling double duty for.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Episode one with Front of the Show Forest. Front of
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the Show Forest will hopefully be here. Yes, I talked
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to him. He was all in, which will be.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Fun because J J. McCarthy, it's the Michigan courquarterback won
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: a national championship with Michigan, so I wouldn't be surprised if,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: in lieu of some Chicago gear, maybe Forest wears some
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Michigan gear.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen him in a
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Michigan jersey. I don't know if he has one. I
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: do know, so Friend of the Show Forest a little
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: tangent here. He has a helmet signed by most, if
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: not all, of the players on Michigan's national championship really team,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: and it was a gift to him from other Front
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: of the Show that we both know, and I had
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: the pleasure of being there when it was given to Forrest,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: and I have a videos I'll have to dig it
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: up and show it to you, because Forrest reacted the
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: same way I would if the Vikings ever were to
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl and someone gifted me a Vikings helmet,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: not a mini helmet, like a helmet signed by the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Vikings team. Like, there's only one way to react, and
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Forrest reacted the perfect way. It's a it's a fun way.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: And maybe we'll have him tell that story next week
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: on the on the podcast. But yeah, I think so.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I all that to say, I know, I don't know
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: if he has a jersey or anything, but I do know, yes,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: JJ's signature, which is pretty cool.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. Speaking of JJ, how do you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna play in this first start? Do you
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna look like a fish out of water
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: play in his first NFL regular season game or is
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: he gonna just settle right in? He's gonna kind of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: shake the rest off, you know, maybe a play or
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: two to kind of get into it and then boom,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: we've we will just know, like in the first quarter,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: this is the guy and he's gonna be the guy forever.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I think win or lose, the Vikings US Vikings fans
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: will come out of that game thinking about JJ like, Okay,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you know we're not gonna be like right now, because
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna throw for four touchdowns and rush for
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: one hundred yards and throw for four hundred yards.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I think he's.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Gonna have Oh he's gonna like maybe throw a touchdown,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to two hundred yards passing, maybe
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: maybe fifty ish yards rushing. He's but he I think
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: his stat line isn't gonna be elite. But he's also
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: not gonna like throw the game losing interception.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Gonna be like, really, God, why why didn't KOC take
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: him out of there? Like, we're not gonna be saying
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: that we're he's saying throw an interception?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think maybe but I or fumble?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: He might have a turnover, But I think we're gonna
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: walk away as Vikings fans walk away from that game
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: thinking like Okay, there's something there, like we're what we
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: we can work with this. You know it's not gonna
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: be He's not gonna be the headline on Sports Center
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: like oh yeah, JJ McCarthy the next Tom Brady, Like
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: let's go, he's you pencil win his MVP I just
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: think we're going to be okay with how he performed,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: and I think that should be our expectations right now.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: But now that I just said that, what do you think,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: What do you think JJ is gonna show us?
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a little more optimistic than you are. Okay, again,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to be beating down the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: door calling him, you know, MVP right away. I don't
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: think he comes out and has you know, an immaculate
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: rating in one hundred yards on the ground, four hundred
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: through the year. I don't think anything like that. I
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: don't think he turns the ball over. I think that'll
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: be a big thing. And that's a big Koc thing,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: right And it's something that he emphasizes with his offense
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: as a whole, and it's something he emphasizes with his
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks specifically, make smart decisions, don't put yourself in these
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: situations where you're gonna get rid of it. And there's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: that stat that I know we brought up several times
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: where like, if the Vikings win the turnover battle, what
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: we can talk about this in a sacondo. That's actually crazy.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking I know what you're looking
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: at so anyways, like there was that's that one season
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: where like if they won the turnover battle, meaning the
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Vikings got more turnovers than they gave up, they won
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the game, and if they they lost the turnover battle,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: then they lost the game. It was kind of just
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: as simple as that. And I think that's it's not
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: always going to be one true of Koc's teams, but
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's definitely indicative of his teams, and I
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: think that's that's gonna be something that he works on
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: with J. J McCarthy. You know, throughout this week, protect
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the ball. If you get into those situations, throw it away,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: throw it out of bounce, throw it into the fifth
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: row of the bleachers if you need to, Like yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: you just get out of the play and keep going,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: you know that sort of thing. So I don't think
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: he turns the ball over unless there's like like a
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: fluke like or it's like doring or something like that
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, the conditions are rough, you fumble
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the snap or whatever, like all things being equal and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: being normal. I don't think he turns the ball over.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I've emphasized that way too much and I need to
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: move on. But we're distracted right now. I think his
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: stat line is also a little bit better than what
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you predicted to in my prediction, I don't know exactly
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: what I would peg him at in terms of like
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: completions and yards, but I think we'll see a quarterback
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: rating over one hundred. Okay, that's what I'm gonna say.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's prepared. I think he's had a year
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: to sit and really digest everything and get familiar with
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the system, get familiar with KOC. He's gonna have justin
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Jefferson and at them feeling, two guys he's had experience with.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he worked out in the summer. I don't know
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: if it was a couple of days or all summer,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: but he worked out with Adham THEEL.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: So he's familiar with these guys. He's really familiar with
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the system. Now. Again, I don't think we're going to
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: bang on the door and say he's the MVP, let's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: sign him to a fifteen year contract kind of thing.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: But and I think he'll make a mistake or two,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it's it's not gonna be one
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: of those mistakes where Kos's dropping an f bomb on
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: live TV, like he did during the preseason when I
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: think was it ripping or somebody.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Moved when they should should.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Have well, and I think it was the quarterback that
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: maybe moved or made some sort of motion that indicated
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that the receiver should go into motion, but that wasn't
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the play and case like exactly. I don't think we're
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see that type of
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: mistake out of JJ McCarthy. I think we'll see the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: little things like you know, like hey, your footwork was
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit slow here, or you went right
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: to your first read because you were nervous and you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: should have been more patient, and you know, worked your
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: way through the progression and the third read was wide open.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: You just didn't get to him. It's gonna be that
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: sort of thing where it's like we the casual fan
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: may not see it, may not totally understand it in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the moment, but like when we hear him talk about
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: it in his post postgame press conference, will be like, oh, okays,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, So.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think it's it's good that maybe
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: we're just protecting ourselves. Neither of us are saying he's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: gonna throw for five hundred yards and seven touchdowns, like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: it'd be awesome if you, Oh my god, can if
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: he does that, I'm getting a.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: JJ tattoo after week one.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: No, seriously, yeah, I think we should all simmer our expectations.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Just remind ourselves. Like Dustin Baker said many times, in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: many places, JJ just has to be okay. He doesn't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: have to be elite or Pat Mahomes. He just has
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: to not turn the ball over a ton.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Just don't suck.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Just don't suck, and then if he does, embrace the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: suck and we'll draft a different guy next year.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: So you pulled up the only football game that's currently
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: happening right now, Monday night, Labor Day, September one. It's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's college coaching debut as head coach of North Carolina.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know did he ever coach like before the NFL.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: It's at least his debut for the first time in decades,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he as you look that up, I wouldn't
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: be surprised if he was like an offensive assistant for
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: like San Jose State.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I would like count that though.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's true head coaching college debut either way.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: The end of the third quarter in North Carolina.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: This is his college coach.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, North Carolina is down. They might they might score
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: here before the end of the third quarter. There's like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: a minute left, but either way, North Carolina is down
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to TSU seven to forty one by a lot. My goodness.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: One thing I believe North Carolina's quarterback is Max Johnson,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: son of former Viking Brat Johnson, and Max, I think
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: against the University of Minnesota early, like a year ago
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: today or you know, a year ago about this time,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: broke his leg was out. He was out for most
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: of the year. One of our tiktoks was his like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: breaking injury. It looks like North Carolina might score a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: touchdown or at least a field goal here before the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: end of the third quarter. You guys, as you're listening now,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: already know how the game turned out. Yeah, they just
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: scored a touchdown. But yeah, crazy to think Bill Belichick's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: debut is going to go down at college debut is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: going to go down as like just a.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Whooping probably a double digit loss. Excellent.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: And it's in North Carolina. Where do they play? That's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: are they in Raleigh? I think they're in Raley?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been to that campus.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, I don't know. I don't hate him. Some
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: people might.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Hate him because the Patriots were good for so long.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: He I'm glad he was never the coach of the Vikings,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I'll put it that way.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kevin O'Connell as a Vikings coach beat him
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and the Patriots the Tom Brady List Patriots because there's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: a difference.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: North Carolina just scored with just under thirty seconds left
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: in the third quarter fourteen forty one. That's crazy.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Didn't koc play for? Yeah, he Belichick.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Played for and was ultimately cut by Bill Belichick.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: So there's some history there too.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, all right, final predictions we've already made, like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: our purple punishment worthy predictions. We both said that the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Vikings would lose to the Lions. So if there's the Bears,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: not the Lions. So if the Vikings do win against
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: the Bears, we will have to spin the wheel of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: purple punishments, both of us, which we need to solidify
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: that as we like go shopping if we need to,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: we have some things. Listeners, If you can think of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: any good ideas for purple punishments, let us know we're
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: still we would still accept ideas. Mister Beast just recently
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: did like a live stream for like many many hours
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: in the hopes of raising money for his deal team
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Water or something. But as a part of his big
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: live stream, him and a few other guys were on
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: it for again twelve ish hours, and they had punishments.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I just watched a recap today. Have the punishments? They
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: did some crazy ones, Like one was like sit in
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a bathtub full of snakes, and like one was like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: have tarantulas crawl on your head.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: We will not bring snakes or tarantelis into my house.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: That one was like.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Get shot by a paintball gun from ten yards away.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: The jeez some of them were. They seemed okay. So
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: if you can think of any purple punishment idea, listener.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I have a red rider BB gun. We could shoot
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: each other with that.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd get shot if we had, Like if we
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: could cover important spots, would I'd get shot.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I'll just shoot you in the butt cheek, that'd be fine.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I did send you that like temporary tattoo that like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: solidifies over the course of a couple of days and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: then lasts for a few weeks. That could be a punishment, like, hey,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: where we are those temporary tattoos. So if you have ideas,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: let us know. We still need to figure it out.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: But all that to say, our official prediction in the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: preseason was that the Vikings would lose to the Bears.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: If the Vikings do win, both of us will spin
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the Wheel of Purple Punishments and that'll be a fun
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: thing that we do.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: The week later. It's not fun for at least one
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: of us.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: But right now, Evan, on Labor Day twenty five, what
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: is your final prediction.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I still think the Vikings lose. I'm gonna stick to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: my guns. I don't think much has changed for me.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I think when we made our initial predictions for the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Wheel of Purple Punishments, we didn't really know the fate
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: of Jordan Addison yet. And also we for sure didn't
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: know that Adam Thielen was coming back. Yeah, it was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: not even really on the radar. I think we may
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: be like talked about it, like, oh yeah, like pie
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in the sky. That'd be amazing if that guy came back,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: but that'll probably never happen. I think even with the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: developments there, it's Monday Night. It's the it's the end
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: cap of the first week of the NFL season. All
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: eyes are going to be on that game, I think
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of I think that'll be a very, very
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: highly watched game.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna interrupt real quick. I think last week I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: mentioned there was probably like two Monday night games in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Week one.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: This is just this is it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: There's only one Week two, there are two Monday Night ones.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: But this is the season. It's just the Bears, just
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: So again, all eyes will be on the Vikings Bears game.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the pressure is maybe just
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit too much. I think it's gonna be
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a really close game. I think it'll be a one
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: score game, and I think it might even be like
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: less than five points that decides it. You've said it,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Dustin Baker has said it. Weird things happen at Soldier
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Field for the Vikings. So I don't know. All of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: that being considered, I still don't like their chances. I'll
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: be elated if they win, and I will do whatever
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: the Wheel of Purple Punishments has me do. But I'm
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: sticking with it all right. I think they lose. It
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: did you give a score.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I was kind of distracted.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Here in no, I did not give a score. If
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I had to put a score out there right now,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's something like, we'll say twenty one
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to twenty Bears.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just writing this down, all right. My prediction. I
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: think JJ does good, not great. I think everybody else does. Okay.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I think the Bears are still figuring it out. Purple punishments.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I'm still standing by you know, I'll still uphold whatever
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I predicted before the season. I don't know if I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: gave an actual score prediction, but I did predict the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Vikings to lose. As of right now, I'm saying twenty
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: to seventeen Vikings. Wow, I think the Vikings.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Flipped the script for me.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: It's just the reason I picked a loss preseason or
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: before you know, when we did the official pick them
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: was more that soldier fields fluky. JJ McCarthy is inexperienced.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: But that's really it. I think Outside of that, everything
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: tells me the Bears have so much to prove. Maybe
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is going to be the next Bill Belichick
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: and Hall of Fame coach, and sure maybe Caleb Williams
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: is gonna be the next Peyton Manning and win multiple
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls and whatever. Right now, they have so much
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: to prove and no real backing to say that they're good.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: So everything tells me, Hey, Kevin O'Connell, Ragning Coach of
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: the Year. The offensive line for the Vikings got better,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: The quarterback hopefully is solidified. The defense is good outside
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: of cornerback, which might be the best position or the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: most important position of football. All that to say, I'm
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: still saying the Vikings are gonna edge it out seventeen
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna walk away victors in Week one. Whatever
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: happens the rest of the season, it's up and down,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: but I'm still thinking Mikeing is gonna walk away.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I like the optimism and I'll be stoked if that happens.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: And if that's the case, I will be glad to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: spin the wheel of purple punishments, even if that means
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I have to wear a weird, stained, smelly Justin Fields
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Bears jersey for the whole episode the next time.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: That's fine, all right, Well, it's unofficially locked in. Our
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: our official picks are locked in again. We said the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Vikings will lose. That was our pick. I don't know.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: We gotta live July or early August a few weeks
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: ago whenever that was, so we will we will live
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: or die by those picks. But we'll always update the picks, yeah,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: kind of like in these episodes, we'll give the partition.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited though. It's exciting to have football back
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and just fun to have like actual news to talk
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: about again.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the Roses and Thorns segment, to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: the Purple punishments. We don't have to look it up
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: right now, but I really enjoy it when one of us,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: like when we choose differently and one of us definitely
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: has to spin the wheel.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: That's always fun. I really do like it because they're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: they're not terrible.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: It's just it's fun to do. Yeah, it should be
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: a really exciting season. I'm glad to have the Sam
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Donald era over with, even though I'm still a Sam
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Donald fan for for life now until he ruins a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Viking season again. I mean, but yeah, there's a lot
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: of optimism, and like you keep saying, there's reason for
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: the Vikings to be optimistic, yes, and we are at
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the time of the roller coaster right now, and it's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: about to go.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Let's let's go. Reason to be optimistic about this beer too.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well we already knew we liked this
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: beer a lot. Hold my pretzel from Single Speed. We
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: love Single Speed it. The only thing I don't like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: about this beer is that they don't make it year round. Yes,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: it's there. It's essentially their Octoberfest, because I don't think
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: they have anyone that's named Octoberfest. Again, if I'm wrong, listener,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: please come in let me know. But yeah, this is
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: their Octoberfest. It's one of their seasonal beers. That's the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: only thing I don't like about it, because even like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: the Fourth of July, this beer still.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Tastes good right like it hits on more than one occasion.
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  Speaker 1: I do know. Because Single Speed is based out of Waterloo, Iowa.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: They were trying for a while when I still lived
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: up there, to start this German beer garden area downtown Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And it was kind of like the traditional just like
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: open area in downtown Waterloo. And they sold I'm sure
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: they sold this and many other local beers and whatever
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  Speaker 1: else you would want to drink too, Like I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they had cores and cherry Bush and whatever else. I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's still happening or not. It was.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't open every night. It was like a like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: a Friday night, Saturday night kind of thing, and it
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: was only from like June to September October or something
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  Speaker 1: like that when it's still nice outside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and iowill you only get a few months that
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: you can do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know if that's still happening,
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  Speaker 1: but if it is, I wouldn't be surprised if they
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: serve this there. Yeah, it definitely fits the mold for
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: that October Fest German beer garden type of type of vibe.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I never got to go to it, by the way
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, but with little kids and stuff.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Well, if they still do it, maybe we should try
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: to coordinate going.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: It'd be fun to go up there, maybe like catching
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: you and I football game or something.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Oh no, not that it'd be just awful.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Just case speaking. New head coach undefeated and did you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: see that, uh Mark Farley? Yeah, Stepsis is the new
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: head coach for you and I. Mark Farley, former longtime
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: head coach like parents level, like long before we were
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: even in college, had been there forever. He's now working
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: for Illinois football really like fully retired. I thought so too,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: and then I saw some news headline that he he's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: stepped up as like some assistant with Illinois football. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Illinois football isn't.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Bad, No, they've been.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: They're kind of probably top five in the Big Ten.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Mark Farley working with interest in Illinois football.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know in what capacity,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how much. But yeah, I figured,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: like you did, that he was just retired, done, gonna go,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: you know, hang out in Florida for the rest of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: his life.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Google says that Farley recently joined the Illinois staff for
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Brett Blima. Yeah, but they didn't specify his duties, but
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: they did say he's not an assistant coach, so some
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: kind of.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Probably like an advisor.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Adviser or something. Yeah, I don't know, all.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Right, consultant something like.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Good for him if that keeps him happy, if that's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: his quote unquote retirement job. I've always said my retirement job,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna work for a golf course and just mow greens.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: If that's his mowing greens, good for him?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, uh really good beer. I like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: this beer a lot. I'd have this beer probably every
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: single episode if you would let me.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. But unfortunately, unfortunately.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: And we got to try all these other beers too.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: We've tried over one hundred different beers.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: We should have like a running number because we've doubled
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: up a couple of times. But we've also had a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: couple episodes where we've had more than one beer too.
• 1:15:58
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, this might be the best episode. Yeah,
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