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Credlin | 9 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Happy King's Birthday. I'm
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Speaker 2: not a Republican, so I'm delighted with this day. Here's
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Speaker 2: what's coming up today. On Kredline, the US intervenes after
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Speaker 2: Tony Birk Council's ofvisa of an Israeli American speaker over
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Speaker 2: concerns he would inflame community tensions. Mike Huckabee says tech
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Speaker 2: advocate hell I fooled, poses no threat of any kind,
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Speaker 2: so what's really going on here? The nation's new Environment
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Speaker 2: Minister imposes tough new conditions on the development of the
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Speaker 2: nuclear submarine based needed for Orcus, which could see work
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Speaker 2: halted over.
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Speaker 3: Penguins and lizards.
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Speaker 2: The King's Birthday honors list out today as we celebrate
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Speaker 2: those who make a stranger better and somewhere close to
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Speaker 2: my heart.
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Speaker 3: Well, they got a gong today and I'll join me tonight.
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Speaker 2: After being honored for decades of volunteer work and former
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Speaker 2: Prime Ministers Good Morrison weighs in on calls to lift
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Speaker 2: the nation's defense spending to three point five percent of GDP.
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Speaker 4: This is a common, I think requirement that has been
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Speaker 4: put forward across all allies and partners, not just Australia.
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Speaker 4: The significant change we're seeing in the security environment and
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Speaker 4: necessitates such a strong response.
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Speaker 2: But first, as you know, I'm a conservative, not a populace,
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Speaker 2: so I don't automatically applaud Donald Trump. His tariff wars
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Speaker 2: have created chaos, and his seeming bromance with the Russian
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Speaker 2: dictator of Vladimir Putin, I think that's almost incomprehensible. But
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Speaker 2: on energy and borders, he's spot on. Of course, America
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Speaker 2: should make the most of its fossil fuel resources, as
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Speaker 2: should we hear in Australia. If Peter Darton's energy policy,
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Speaker 2: like Trump's had been drill, baby drill, at least he
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Speaker 2: would have created some sort of contest with the Labor government.
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Speaker 2: And Trump's dispatch of troops to control the border with Mexico,
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Speaker 2: his version of Operation Sovereign Borders seems to have turned
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Speaker 2: those huge issues of a legal migration from a flood
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Speaker 2: to a metrical. Late last week he did something that
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Speaker 2: I think Australia here should copy. He banned all travel
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Speaker 2: through the United States and countries that won't take back
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Speaker 2: their citizens if for whatever reason America needs to deport them.
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Speaker 5: The recent terror attack in Boulder, Colorado has underscored the
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Speaker 5: extreme dangers posed to our country by the entry of
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Speaker 5: foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as
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Speaker 5: those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas.
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Speaker 6: We don't want them.
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Speaker 2: And that list of countries his band includes Iran and Afghanistan,
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Speaker 2: and they are just two of the countries that won't
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Speaker 2: take back their citizens from Australia, including many thousands who
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Speaker 2: came here illegally by boat under the rug Gillard era,
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Speaker 2: have had their refugee applications rejected and still cannot be
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Speaker 2: deported because their home countries will not accept them back. Now,
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Speaker 2: thanks to operations sovereign borders here in Australia, we have
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Speaker 2: no immediate crisis on our borders, but we still have
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Speaker 2: some one hundred thousand people here on bridging visas because
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Speaker 2: they've applied for asylum, including some fifty thousand whose applications
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Speaker 2: have been refused but who won't or can't go back.
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Speaker 2: That's why we should be doing or at least considering
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Speaker 2: what the US has done and simply refuse to accept
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Speaker 2: into Australia. People from countries that don't take their citizens
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Speaker 2: back if they're no longer then entitled to stay legally
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Speaker 2: in Australia. Naturally, the outrage activist industry.
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Speaker 3: Would go into overdrive.
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Speaker 2: But no one who's not an Australian citizen has a
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Speaker 2: right to be here in Australia, and we absolutely must
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Speaker 2: be able to send home people who have abused our
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Speaker 2: good will, committed crimes here, or.
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Speaker 3: Merely outstay their welcome.
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Speaker 2: But instead of taking action to ensure that we aren't
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Speaker 2: settled with people who should go home, the Obineza governments
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Speaker 2: determined instead to protect us from an Israeli American speaker
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Speaker 2: who was to attend an important charity event in Australia. Now,
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Speaker 2: notwithstanding the right to free speech in this country, it
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Speaker 2: would appear that Hillel Food's visa to visit Australia has
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Speaker 2: been canceled because he supposedly denies documented atrocities by the
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Speaker 2: Israeli forces in Gaza and therefore could promote socis Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke hatred here in Australia. Now, Honestly, whose side is
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Speaker 2: the Albanese government on? Why is it up to full
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Speaker 2: to speak for or against the Israeli government. Why isn't
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Speaker 2: an Israeli? Why r Israeli is held to a standard
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Speaker 2: that appears to apply to no other nationality on Earth.
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Speaker 2: I mean, every weekend, the streets are full of people
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Speaker 2: here who deny Israel's right to self defense, who deny
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Speaker 2: the actions of Harmas on October seven, and the daily
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Speaker 2: crimes that Harmask commits against its own citizens. Why is
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Speaker 2: this jule Us Israeli citizen Bartford entering Australia when the
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Speaker 2: Alberanzer government took in over three thousand Garzens, was scarcely
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Speaker 2: even a security check.
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Speaker 3: The devil's standing is wrong. Dare I say it? It's antisemitic?
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Speaker 2: After all, I'm yet to see Tony Burke deport one
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Speaker 2: hate preacher. And yet the venom coming out of some
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Speaker 2: of the mosques in this country cannot and should never
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Speaker 2: be tolerated. Israel's war against the terrorists death Culhamas is
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Speaker 2: a just war, and it's time the Albanezer government recognized that.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 2: Allowing foreigners to take advantage of us is just one
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Speaker 2: example of how we're not a serious country. And here's
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Speaker 2: another one. Today the Federal Government Minister of the new
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Speaker 2: Minister has issued a series of conditions for the development
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Speaker 2: of a nuclear submarine based near Perth, ordering work to
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Speaker 2: stop immediately if there's any injury to penguins, lizards, and
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Speaker 2: others supposedly endangered wildlife. The work at HMAS Sterling in
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Speaker 2: Western Australia is absolutely urgent if the US and British
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Speaker 2: nuclear subs are to rotate through our waters as part
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Speaker 2: of the Orcus arrangements. The Albanize Govern's instruction reportedly states
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Speaker 2: the Defense Department bust and I quote immediately initiate a
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Speaker 2: stop works procedure in the event that any little penguin
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Speaker 2: or Perth slider or marine mammals found to be killed
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Speaker 2: or injured in the vicinity of the base. Defense will
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Speaker 2: also be responsible for ranging veterory care for any native,
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Speaker 2: terrestrial or marine animal found to be injured, even though
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Speaker 2: the long established naval base has happily coexisted with the
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Speaker 2: penguin colony for many decades.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I'm all in favor of doing what we reasonably can
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Speaker 2: to protect flora and fauna, but this is just an
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Speaker 2: invitation to the activists to manufacture their false claims, as
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Speaker 2: they do against almost every other project they oppose. Be
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Speaker 2: it a gas project, to coal mine, or anything else
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Speaker 2: that might be built in the national interest. A government
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Speaker 2: that's largely indifferent to the fate of birds and marine
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Speaker 2: animals impacted by those giant wind turbines should not have
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Speaker 2: a double standard just because Labour is starting to get
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Speaker 2: very lukewarm about these nuclear subs. And that's in large
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Speaker 2: part because the very presence of nuclear powered submarines in
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Speaker 2: this country undermines Labour's opposition to nuclear power, because that's
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Speaker 2: what this is really about, and the fact that in
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Speaker 2: the May election Labour nearly lost the seat of Fremantle
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Speaker 2: to a Teal. This is where the Sterling submarine base
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Speaker 2: is located. As always with Labor, it's never about the environment.
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Speaker 2: It's only ever about the politics.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's go to.
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Speaker 7: The government says it is open to boosting Australia's defense
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Speaker 7: spending even third the following a request from the United States.
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Speaker 1: We are clearly willing to have the conversation with America.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, we will make this decision about
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Speaker 1: what we spend on defense based on our own national interest.
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Speaker 7: Even accounting for nuclear powered submarines, Australia's annual defense spend
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Speaker 7: will rise from around two percent of GDP to two
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Speaker 7: point three three percent in a decade's time. The Coalition
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Speaker 7: wants it to climb as high as three percent, while
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Speaker 7: Team Trump is demanding it reached three point five.
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Speaker 4: You can make spending, but unless you have it in
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Speaker 4: a strategic and coordinated approach, then you are spending money
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Speaker 4: for the sake of spending money.
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Speaker 7: The government could allow more American beef onto Australian supermarket
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Speaker 7: shelves as it searches for a breakthrough to get out
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Speaker 7: of Donald Trump's tariffs, and where.
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Speaker 1: There's not going to be any compromise on the biosecurity
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Speaker 1: of Australia.
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Speaker 8: We're at open trading nations, so we're obviously open for
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Speaker 8: things to come into our country, but under no circumstances
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Speaker 8: should it ever compromise to bia secure rules that we
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Speaker 8: currently have.
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Speaker 7: Former Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been included in the
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Speaker 7: King's Birthday Honors roll. He's been named a Companion of
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Speaker 7: the Order of Australia, the nation's highest civilian honor, for
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Speaker 7: his leadership during the COVID pandemic.
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Speaker 4: You know, it all depended on the resilience and support
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Speaker 4: of the Australian people, and for that I'll be forever grateful.
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Speaker 7: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: No, No, I've still forgiven him for the way he treated
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews and left poor old Victorians locked up. There
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Speaker 2: we go join him now, Sky News contributor Chris Yelman Chris. Interestingly, Today,
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Speaker 2: Victorian Energy Minister Lily dan Brosio forced to admit the
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Speaker 2: full cost of the government's renewable energy plan is unknown.
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Speaker 2: She doesn't know what it is, but she's rejected anyone
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Speaker 2: saying it's as much as twenty billion dollars rather than
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Speaker 2: the four point three billion she's budgeted for. This came
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Speaker 2: out of a hearing, a budget hearing on Friday, where
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Speaker 2: she said the lights would go out of these new
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Speaker 2: transmission lines weren't built, but that she could not reveal
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Speaker 2: the full cost and she could not reveal the impact
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Speaker 2: on bills until the contracts have been signed out.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how anyone could.
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Speaker 2: Sign a contract without the cost being known, But put
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Speaker 2: that to one side. If we keep up this push
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Speaker 2: on renewables, the lights will go out anyway, transmission lines
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Speaker 2: or not.
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Speaker 9: We've seen it around the world, Peter. Everywhere you put
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Speaker 9: in large scale deployment of wind and solid, two things happen.
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Speaker 9: That grid becomes more fragile and electricity prices saw and
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Speaker 9: I see Lily dan Brosio saying that it's not going
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Speaker 9: to be twenty billion dollars, but can't say how much
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Speaker 9: it's going to be. And of course those transmission lines
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Speaker 9: that she's left out of the equation probably come to
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Speaker 9: around about sixteen billion dollars. So what do we know
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Speaker 9: about that. We know that nine percent of your electricity
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Speaker 9: bill is the transmission costs. Once those are decided and
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Speaker 9: set in stone by the regulator, then they get a
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Speaker 9: regulated rate of return. That's nine percent of your electricity bill.
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Speaker 9: They can only go up. That is the only direction
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Speaker 9: in which they are heading. And it's interesting now that
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Speaker 9: the Federal Labor Party has stop saying that people's electricity
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Speaker 9: bills will go down. But the great lie in all
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Speaker 9: of this has to be exposed, and that is it
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Speaker 9: will be neither greener nor cheaper, and the system will
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Speaker 9: certainly be more fragile. That's the energy future which is
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Speaker 9: on offer because of the policy decisions of state and
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Speaker 9: federal governments.
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Speaker 2: And all the while Chris state in federal there's a
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Speaker 2: whole and a Mickey mouse accounting. The Victorian Treasurer has
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Speaker 2: revealed the government will say this is, as I say,
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Speaker 2: mickey mouse accounting a three point three billion because they're
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Speaker 2: going to use AI and automation to free up the
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Speaker 2: time of public servants, get them off the repetitive.
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Speaker 3: Sort of tasks.
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Speaker 2: Now forget all the other things in a modern economy
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Speaker 2: that we need good and reliable energy for. But it
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Speaker 2: feels like no one in Parliament, anywhere, state or federal
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Speaker 2: really understands this.
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Speaker 3: World wide race on AI.
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Speaker 2: It's underway and unless we have here in this country
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Speaker 2: are huge new sources of energy, we're not even at
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Speaker 2: the starting line.
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Speaker 9: It will. In fact, the austrain Energy Market, Energy Operator
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Speaker 9: and the regulator have started to raise questions about artificial
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Speaker 9: intelligence and what that might do to Australia's guid because
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Speaker 9: we really don't have an excess of power because of
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Speaker 9: the kind of system that we're building. So let's try
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Speaker 9: to put some of these things in perspective. Peter, what
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Speaker 9: kind of energy demand might an artificial intelligence data center.
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Speaker 9: Bring well one gigawa is a term that's been banded
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Speaker 9: around in the United States. That's for a big one.
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Speaker 9: So imagine a city the size of Melbourne. Well that sorry, Adelaide.
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Speaker 9: That is round about one third of the demand of
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Speaker 9: a city the size of Adelaide. It's bigger than the
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Speaker 9: peak demand of a city the size of Canberra. And
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Speaker 9: you will need to build dozens of these things if
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Speaker 9: you want to be in the race. We're going to
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Speaker 9: see a surge in the demand for electricity. And what
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Speaker 9: kind of electricity, Well, it has to be dispatchable because
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Speaker 9: these things will demand that level of energy twenty four
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Speaker 9: to seven that will not be running on wind and solar.
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Speaker 9: So in the United States, what's happening. They are building
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Speaker 9: these data centers right alongside the gas fields and the
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Speaker 9: permium basin and they'll export the data from there. So
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Speaker 9: what is Australia's plan for doing anything like that? And
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Speaker 9: as usual, we apparently don't have a plan.
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Speaker 2: Now we're going to make budget savings though from AI
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Speaker 2: capacity we can't even turn on, but we'll leave that
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Speaker 2: for a moment. You had a great column, terrific column
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Speaker 2: on the weekend in the oars, and you pointed out
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Speaker 2: how young people and climate change activists are living. Some
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Speaker 2: sort of line is spot on. I guess the problem is, Chris,
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Speaker 2: if you look at the recent election, most of them
13:43
Speaker 2: are drifting away from the two big parties of government.
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Speaker 2: How do we get young people to understand that almost
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Speaker 2: everything in the world that helps them pay their way,
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Speaker 2: that gives them the magnificence standard of living we have
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Speaker 2: in Australia comes from a budget that's underpinned by fossil fuels.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and look, it is a really big question because
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Speaker 9: Australians now, who live mostly in cities, are completely disconnected
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Speaker 9: to where their energy comes from. They think they flick
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Speaker 9: on a switch and that's where it comes from. Of course,
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Speaker 9: it's got to be sourced from somewhere. Electricity is just
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Speaker 9: a transport mechanism. The fuel source, mostly on the East
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Speaker 9: Coast of Australia.
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Speaker 3: Is coal.
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Speaker 9: We are getting rid of that at the moment, But
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Speaker 9: beyond that, whenever we talk about electricity, we're only talking
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Speaker 9: about eighteen percent of this energy transition problem because the
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Speaker 9: other eighty percent is involved in transport, in agriculture, in
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Speaker 9: making bricks and making steel, and making cement, making plastic.
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Speaker 3: There's literally nothing.
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Speaker 9: That you can see in the built environment around you
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Speaker 9: that does not have some of that actually embedded its
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Speaker 9: industrial production. Even the food that you eat, if they've
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Speaker 9: used synthetic fertilizer, comes from fossil fuel. It comes from
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Speaker 9: natural gas getting the nitrogen now the atmosphere to make
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Speaker 9: that fertilizer. Look, the way to describe it to people
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Speaker 9: is that my grandfather was born in eighteen ninety nine
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Speaker 9: in Brisbane into a house that had no wa electricity
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Speaker 9: and no running water and no indoor toilet. There were
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Speaker 9: no cars on the streets, there were no planes in
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Speaker 9: the sky. When he died in nineteen sixty seven, we
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Speaker 9: were two years away from the moonshot. That's the greatest
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Speaker 9: leap forward in human history. And what drove it fossil fuel.
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Speaker 2: Now, that's such a sage reminder that we are on
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Speaker 2: the cusp of either grasping our future Christs or absolutely
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Speaker 2: sending our nation backward. Related to that, and we and
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Speaker 2: I often say energy security is national security. Scott Morrison
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Speaker 2: brought into the whole debate about defense. We know the
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Speaker 2: US want us to lift it to three point five.
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Speaker 2: The governments struggling to get much above two. Anthony Albadez
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Speaker 2: he wants to get to two point three. There's a
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Speaker 2: survey out today that says fifty seven percent, almost sixty
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Speaker 2: percent of Australian so they support an increase to defense spending.
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Speaker 2: Now pt this in perspective. The Australia Defense Associations pointed
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Speaker 2: out that for every dollar we currently spend under this
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Speaker 2: labor government on defense, for every one dollar we're spending
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Speaker 2: seven dollars fifty on social security, that's welfare, five dollars
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Speaker 2: fifty on health, and five dollars on education. Any wonder
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Speaker 2: people are demanding this money's got to be increased.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter.
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Speaker 9: And the other thing that really gets me about this
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Speaker 9: has a lot been made recently of Pete Hegseth, the
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Speaker 9: US Defense Secretary, talking about Australia lifting its defense spending
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Speaker 9: to three point five percent. But I think that all
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Speaker 9: that's really being asked of the Albanezi government is that
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Speaker 9: it is as good as its own words. And if
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Speaker 9: you listen to what this government says, we are now
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Speaker 9: in the worst strategic circumstances since the Second World War,
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Speaker 9: and yet the defense spending that they're talking about is
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Speaker 9: mostly back ended, so you know, yes, they are going
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Speaker 9: to lift defense spending, but not really at the moment.
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Speaker 9: It will be done over the course of the next decades,
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Speaker 9: so spending that this government doesn't really have to worry
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Speaker 9: about in the short term. Yet, if we are in
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Speaker 9: the worst strategic circumstances since the Second World War, you'd
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Speaker 9: think there might be a little bit more activity around
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Speaker 9: the around what was going on in the Australian government,
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Speaker 9: and a little bit less smugness about it or being
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Speaker 9: peeved when people raise it. I might point out that
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Speaker 9: the Australian Strategic Policy Institute looked at the spending recently,
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Speaker 9: always usually very well sourced. Forward to that said that
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Speaker 9: when that Chinese flotilla went around Australia, one of the
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Speaker 9: things that it did was target Australian cities. Now think
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Speaker 9: about that for a moment. This is our great friend
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Speaker 9: and trading partner with whom we apparently have now a
17:30
Speaker 9: great relationship. Well, that's a good relationship. I'd hate to
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Speaker 9: see what a bad one looks like.
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Speaker 2: Peter Wrong, Let's go to la I want to get
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Speaker 2: your take on all of this. We've seen those rights
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Speaker 2: now for three or four days and broken out. Obviously
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Speaker 2: following attempts to round up illegal migrants, Donald Trump has
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Speaker 2: deployed the National Guard to.
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Speaker 3: Quell the rights.
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Speaker 2: It's a move that the Californian Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom
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Speaker 2: has described as purposefully inflammatory. Not a good look. Bok
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Speaker 2: An Allay. Of course, Chris has a terrible history of riants.
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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts here, Well.
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Speaker 9: We shouldn't be surprised about the fact that the American
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Speaker 9: President has decided that he's going to be as good
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Speaker 9: as he would as his word. If there was one
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Speaker 9: thing that he said on coming into government, because he
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Speaker 9: was going to do something about illegal immigration. And there
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Speaker 9: are eleven million, apparently illegal immigrants inside the United States,
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Speaker 9: and this is a very significant problem. And it's not
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Speaker 9: surprising really that someone like Donald Trump would hardly be
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Speaker 9: gentle when he went about doing this. He's trying to
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Speaker 9: send a message apart from anything else. Now, it is
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Speaker 9: extraordinary that he's called out the National Guard without the
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Speaker 9: governor approving that. That last time that happened was in
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Speaker 9: nineteen sixty five when Lyndon Johnson brought out the National Guard.
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Speaker 9: So yes, this is unusual, and I think there's an
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Speaker 9: enormous amount of politics going down here. Don't forget that
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Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom will most likely be one of the key
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Speaker 9: contenders for the Democratic selection at the next election, and
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Speaker 9: Donald Trump knows that. So I think that what we're
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Speaker 9: seeing here is in part policy that the President said
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Speaker 9: he would do, and very much politics.
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Speaker 2: It's also flicking the switch and away from the conversation
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Speaker 2: all last week between the President and Elon Musk.
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Speaker 3: But I do think his position.
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Speaker 2: On immigration's got widespread popular support in the States.
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Speaker 3: We'll ove it there. Thanks Chris.
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Speaker 2: The US Ambassador to Israel, has intervened after the Albanizer
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Speaker 2: government quietly canceled the travel visa of an Israeli American
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Speaker 2: tech advocate, HELLEL. Fuld, who was due to visit here
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Speaker 2: in coming weeks. Mister full was scheduled to speak at
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Speaker 2: a fundraising event in Melbourne and following events in Sydney,
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Speaker 2: but that's all now been scuttled after Home Affairs Minister
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke claimed his presence could pose a risk and
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Speaker 2: I quote to the health, safety and good order of
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Speaker 2: the community, particularly Muslim Australians.
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Speaker 3: Home Affairs claims.
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Speaker 2: Mister Fuld has posted on multiple platforms and made statements
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Speaker 2: deny incredible documented atrocities in Gaza and Islamophobia.
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Speaker 3: Reetrick joined me now.
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Speaker 2: Executive Council of Australian Jury co CEO Alex Rifkin, Alex, thank.
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Speaker 3: You for your time.
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Speaker 2: We've seen these diplomatic representations today from the US from
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Speaker 2: their ambassador, the American Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, urging
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke to rethink this decision to overturn his block
20:20
Speaker 2: on the visa. Mister Huckaby says, mister full Pos is
20:24
Speaker 2: no threat of any kind.
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Speaker 3: So why are the travel band here? Do you think, Alex.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's a plainly preposterous decision, Peter, I mean, Hillel
20:35
Speaker 10: Fold is a tech entrepreneur. He's an expert in his field.
20:41
Speaker 10: He is an uncontroversial figure, and he was planning to
20:45
Speaker 10: come to Australia to appear for an organization magindivida Doom
20:49
Speaker 10: that does phenomenal work as a first responder on the ground,
20:52
Speaker 10: including after October seven. And to think that he was
20:56
Speaker 10: someone that could be deemed of such ill character that
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Speaker 10: he should be excluded and from entering this country is absurd.
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Speaker 10: He's also I should mention the brother of Ari Fld,
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Speaker 10: a hero who died in the terror attack and in
21:07
Speaker 10: his final moments of life subdued his attack and to
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Speaker 10: save others. I think this is a very dangerous use
21:13
Speaker 10: of migration policy as a tool of state craft to
21:15
Speaker 10: try to keep out people who have mildly controversial views.
21:19
Speaker 10: I mean, Hillel has spoken about Gharzan society after twenty
21:24
Speaker 10: years of Huma's rule. He's spoken about radical Islam as
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Speaker 10: the threat to the West. We may agree or disagree,
21:30
Speaker 10: we may use his language or avoid it, but there's
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Speaker 10: nothing in what he said that is so heinous and
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Speaker 10: preposterous that he poses a risk to public order and
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Speaker 10: this band should be overturned.
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Speaker 2: Well, we used to be a country that believed in
21:43
Speaker 2: free speech. I mean, we want to hear these ideas
21:45
Speaker 2: and as you say, we can accept or disagree with them.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty, he's taken on the job now as Shadow
21:51
Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister. He is demanding the government release a statement,
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Speaker 2: a detailed statement saying what are the reasons for cancellation.
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Speaker 2: He is worried the cancelation suggests that controversial political political
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Speaker 2: opinions and now considered a risk to the community. I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you what though, there seems to be a growing
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Speaker 2: pattern of pro Israel or pro Zionist speakers finding it
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Speaker 2: very difficult to get into Australia.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 10: I think there is Andrew Hasty as said, a threat
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Speaker 10: to free speech and free expression, certainly, but I think
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Speaker 10: there's a very specific threat to Israelis and to the
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Speaker 10: Jewish community here because we are seeing increasingly pattern of
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Speaker 10: behavior of this sort of cancelation, of this sort of
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Speaker 10: malicious use of migration policy. We saw a few months
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Speaker 10: ago a former Israeli Justice minister denied entry to Australia
22:41
Speaker 10: as well, which I think damaged our reputation abroad as
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Speaker 10: a free and open society. Since October seven, I've spoken
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Speaker 10: to countless members of my community who have family in
22:50
Speaker 10: Israel who have tried to come to Australia, who previously
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Speaker 10: is to travel here with no issues at all, and
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Speaker 10: now they're seeing unusual delays, calls for additional paperwork. All
23:00
Speaker 10: these things are happening, and they kind of beg the
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Speaker 10: question of how the government sees Israel and Israelis, and
23:05
Speaker 10: not just the government but ordinary Israels. Are they still
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Speaker 10: seen as friends and allies of this country.
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Speaker 2: But Dearly, this guy's a dual national, and I think
23:15
Speaker 2: that's going to make things very difficult for the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister when he catches up with the US President at
23:20
Speaker 2: the G seven en Canada in a couple of days time.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's bizarre.
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Speaker 2: We can bring in almost three thousand people from Gaza
23:27
Speaker 2: with basically no security checks at all, but this businessman,
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Speaker 2: just because he speaks in favor of Israel is bad.
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Speaker 2: At the same time, I can't recall you tell me
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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I can't recall one hate preacher who's
23:43
Speaker 2: been deported under this government.
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Speaker 10: No, that's quite right. And as you say, thousands of
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Speaker 10: Ghazans came here obviously in humanitarian distress and in a
23:55
Speaker 10: difficult situation there No one denies it. But they came
23:58
Speaker 10: from a territory that was ruled with an iron fist
24:02
Speaker 10: by a vicious terrorist organization that controls every aspect of
24:06
Speaker 10: public life in that country. And the fact that people
24:08
Speaker 10: were able to come here by their thousands with very weak,
24:11
Speaker 10: very loose vetting that posed the risk to our national
24:15
Speaker 10: security in our public order. Hillel Foold certainly does not,
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Speaker 10: and You're right. We've seen hate preachers regularly inciting violence
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Speaker 10: against our community. We've seen extremely controversial Palestinian speakers come here,
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Speaker 10: often at the public expense. I'm thinking in particular of
24:30
Speaker 10: Susan Ablawa, who came here to speak at Adelaide Writers
24:34
Speaker 10: Week and she refers to Israeli as in the most
24:37
Speaker 10: violent and vicious terms and calls for the destruction of
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Speaker 10: the state. And she was able to come to this country.
24:42
Speaker 10: So there's clearly something going on, and the federal government
24:46
Speaker 10: and particularly the Minister of Immigration and Home Affairs, needs
24:48
Speaker 10: to account for it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So how can people watching the show who want
24:53
Speaker 2: to support free speech to this country, how can they
24:56
Speaker 2: support the overturning of this band? Where do they go, Alex?
24:59
Speaker 2: Do they p the minister? Did they sign a petition?
25:03
Speaker 2: Is this something on your website?
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Speaker 10: Well, look, I would urge them to do two things. Firstly,
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Speaker 10: they should contact the minister and convey their concerns about
25:13
Speaker 10: the denial of the visit to Helle Fuld. I would
25:16
Speaker 10: also urge them to do something positive. There's a tradition
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Speaker 10: in Jewish history and custom to take something negative and
25:22
Speaker 10: turn into something positive and hopeful. Mcgindivida Dom is one
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Speaker 10: of the most wonderful organizations doing vital charitable work. Their
25:30
Speaker 10: first responders. They save lives, particularly after terror attacks in
25:33
Speaker 10: Israel and if anyone wants to support them, I would
25:36
Speaker 10: strongly ourge them to do so.
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Speaker 2: Good point and they are a Jewish charity and not
25:41
Speaker 2: like the Red Cross. And it doesn't matter what religion
25:43
Speaker 2: or background you are. If you need their help, you
25:45
Speaker 2: get it. Thank you very much, Alex. After the break,
25:48
Speaker 2: we're going to talk drought. Yes there's been some rain
25:51
Speaker 2: over recent days, but has it landed where we need it?
25:54
Speaker 2: What's the gunman doing for our farmers. Plus I'll catch
25:57
Speaker 2: up with a King's Birthday honor recipient who hails from
25:59
Speaker 2: my town of which you proof and he's an extraordinary bloke.
26:08
Speaker 2: Welcome up, coming up, a wonderful man. I'm proud to
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Speaker 2: call him a dear friend from the Malley Honor today
26:13
Speaker 2: with an Order.
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Speaker 3: Of Australia award. He's coming up. Will speak to him
26:17
Speaker 3: in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But while his award is good us and a part
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Speaker 2: of Victoria doing it tough from the drought, and there's
26:22
Speaker 2: been some good reign over the weekend. It's somewhat of
26:24
Speaker 2: a reprieve. Please don't think from moment the droughts behind
26:28
Speaker 2: our farmers and local communities across South Australia, Southwest Victoria
26:32
Speaker 2: and of course parts of you South Wales. The reality is,
26:35
Speaker 2: with this reign as welcome as it is, we know
26:38
Speaker 2: farmers still need slightly warmer weather now to grow the
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Speaker 2: feed needed for stock. Joy meen how to discuss this
26:45
Speaker 2: and the recent responses from government to the crisis. Kerangamite
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Speaker 2: Counselor Jamie Vogels. Jamie, thank you for your time. Look,
26:53
Speaker 2: just before we get into this whole debate about the
26:55
Speaker 2: draft Drought task Force set up by the Victorian Premier
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Speaker 2: and a pretty fiery meeting last week, give us an.
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Speaker 3: Update on the rain out your way. How widespreads it been?
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having us on, Peter. It's been very widespread
27:10
Speaker 6: across the shire from from north to south. Got good rains,
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Speaker 6: probably sixty odd mill up in the north of the shire,
27:17
Speaker 6: right down to down the south where I am we've
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Speaker 6: had about one hundred and twenty mil so No, that's fantastic.
27:23
Speaker 6: You wouldn't knock that back.
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Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 2: Bits of my dadd in Horsham on a Marina Farm,
27:29
Speaker 2: so they've had their best rain for many many months.
27:32
Speaker 2: But of course the issue is this cold weather and
27:36
Speaker 2: that water hitting and you've got sort of grain that's
27:39
Speaker 2: been sown. Is are we going to get to the
27:41
Speaker 2: conditions now to turn it into something?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a good question. Only a couple of
27:47
Speaker 6: weeks off the shortest day. So normally to get good
27:50
Speaker 6: germination you need a favorit of Waltz to come on
27:54
Speaker 6: board as well. So luckily where we are on the
27:58
Speaker 6: sofare already got in grass, we just haven't got growth
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Speaker 6: to eat, so this will kick that off. We've also
28:06
Speaker 6: got a lot of stuff sowed, so germination might be
28:08
Speaker 6: down on that, and then you've still got the worries
28:11
Speaker 6: from this time of year of frost and stuff that
28:13
Speaker 6: will take it out.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, fingers crossed this continues and something we
28:19
Speaker 2: need the right as well to fill up the dams.
28:21
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the government's response and state government's
28:24
Speaker 2: response to this new drought task force it met last week.
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Speaker 3: Beb MacArthur.
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Speaker 2: You'll know her well, she's the liberal down your way,
28:31
Speaker 2: she said the Premier's visit to camp and our stage
28:34
Speaker 2: managed the point where she was ushered into town by
28:36
Speaker 2: the police. Local MPs didn't even know about the visit,
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Speaker 2: and she reportedly refused to even meet with farmers.
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Speaker 3: Ow faares that call.
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Speaker 6: And not surprising. I think the week before we had
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Speaker 6: a covert meeting by the egg Minister, were in and out,
28:56
Speaker 6: met with certain people and gone to find out after
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Speaker 6: the fact. I think the Premier's visit that was leaked
29:06
Speaker 6: that she was coming down and the fire's obviously all
29:09
Speaker 6: got fired up and had all the fire engines driving around.
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Speaker 6: They hung up their jackets all on the routes and
29:16
Speaker 6: put up signs and stuff. But somebody's gone ahead of
29:20
Speaker 6: the premiere to might take all the signs down and
29:24
Speaker 6: all the fiery's jackets too, so she didn't have to
29:26
Speaker 6: see them on her way in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
29:30
Speaker 2: She's obviously political pressure about that levee, so she's pushed
29:34
Speaker 2: it out for twelve months, but she hasn't scrapped it,
29:37
Speaker 2: has she No, the.
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Speaker 6: Drought will end, but the levee will go on, and
29:42
Speaker 6: it just adds to the cost of production pressures with
29:45
Speaker 6: the sixty two other taxes that they've put on board
29:48
Speaker 6: since they've been in government with Daniel Andrews and Justina
29:54
Speaker 6: and that just adds to the cost of production pressures,
29:56
Speaker 6: which is as one of the biggest problems. We actually
29:59
Speaker 6: have it moment before Dread even running at below cost
30:05
Speaker 6: of production. So yeah, we'll tie on everything up with
30:07
Speaker 6: Barbei and Bala toine just to get through. And then
30:11
Speaker 6: we asked for help and they throw another tax on.
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Speaker 2: I want to play some comments from a farmer who's
30:17
Speaker 2: doing it pretty tough. He posted this today in Victoria.
30:20
Speaker 3: Have listen these animals.
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Speaker 12: They don't know it's a public holiday. They still need
30:27
Speaker 12: feeding and we're still waiting for our support package. I'm
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Speaker 12: about to run out of high here on the farm
30:34
Speaker 12: and I love what I do, but I hope you
30:38
Speaker 12: enjoy your weekend. And yeah, come on, fair guy, start listening.
30:44
Speaker 12: Listen to the CFI, listen to the farmers.
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Speaker 13: You're ignoring us.
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Speaker 2: I could put stories like that to every single night
30:53
Speaker 2: of frustration is obvious, right, So what do farmers need?
30:58
Speaker 3: What can the government?
31:01
Speaker 6: So Paul Paul's not the line ranger there, there's no
31:03
Speaker 6: fiber available in Victoria, South Australia or New South Wales,
31:07
Speaker 6: so it has to come from West Australia. Or Queensland
31:09
Speaker 6: at massive freight cross costs if you can get in,
31:13
Speaker 6: if you can get it across the border. So you know,
31:18
Speaker 6: we've already been feeding and buying lots and lots of feet,
31:22
Speaker 6: which has put us under huge financial pressure. And of
31:27
Speaker 6: course as it gets shorter in supply, the costs go
31:31
Speaker 6: through the roof. So the government needs to start doing
31:35
Speaker 6: stuff like underwriting fiber sources to come into Victoria, whether
31:41
Speaker 6: it's boided in from overseas or freighted across from w
31:44
Speaker 6: A or different Queensland. It's a lot of feed needs
31:48
Speaker 6: to come in, so the government could help underwrite that
31:52
Speaker 6: to help the companies afford.
31:55
Speaker 10: To bring a heap down.
31:58
Speaker 6: The other things we need is physical support and baby
32:03
Speaker 6: low interest or no interest loans to help us get
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Speaker 6: through because we've borrowed to the held against our equity.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I want to keep the pressure on, Jamie, so
32:14
Speaker 2: send me messages as you're going along, as you're talking
32:17
Speaker 2: to people. I'll keep running these stories most nights. If
32:19
Speaker 2: I can, thank you for joining me tonight. All the
32:21
Speaker 2: best and as I say, I hope that rain continues.
32:23
Speaker 2: Thoughts and prayers with all of our farms across the country.
32:27
Speaker 2: Right after the break we meet one of the King's
32:28
Speaker 2: Birthday Honor recipients. This is a man who proves the
32:31
Speaker 2: quietest achievers often have the greatest impact.
32:34
Speaker 3: And later on the government's.
32:35
Speaker 2: Push the slash red tape for home building, will it work?
32:44
Speaker 3: Welcome back?
32:44
Speaker 2: Coming out the New South Wales Liberals still deciding whether
32:47
Speaker 2: to challenge the outcome of the city seat of Bradfield
32:51
Speaker 2: where they lost the seat to a tal But first
32:54
Speaker 2: in is heyday, my next guest received offers to play
32:57
Speaker 2: for Collingwood, Geelong, South Melbourne and and what was also
33:01
Speaker 2: late to become Footscray to leave the family farm and
33:04
Speaker 2: play in what was then the VFL. Now he turned
33:07
Speaker 2: them all down because he just wanted to kick the
33:10
Speaker 2: footy at his local club, where I might add he
33:12
Speaker 2: won the best in fair of seven times and another
33:15
Speaker 2: four times at regional level. Now some sixty years on,
33:19
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say there was one other offer, Mansell
33:23
Speaker 2: Mick Gettings for a witchyproof couldn't knock back, and that
33:26
Speaker 2: was a King's Birthday honor awarded Today the wonderful met
33:30
Speaker 2: Kenny's beautiful daughter Emma join me now, Mick, as you
33:34
Speaker 2: know I was born up your way and you knew
33:36
Speaker 2: my parents and my grandparents, so I have to say
33:39
Speaker 2: this as a witchyproof person. I am incredibly proud. I
33:43
Speaker 2: know the whole region's proud of you because I don't
33:46
Speaker 2: think there's a community group you haven't volunteered in. So congratulations,
33:52
Speaker 2: you've finally been recognized for a lifetime of service.
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Speaker 14: Yes, thanks Breda. No you didn't quite get all those
34:04
Speaker 14: titles right there, but anyway, it's an honor that I
34:10
Speaker 14: never expected, but I'll accept it on behalf of our
34:16
Speaker 14: town here, which you put. Now, we've got a great
34:19
Speaker 14: group of people here in which it's always been the same,
34:22
Speaker 14: and why I've collected stuff, and that is to remember
34:27
Speaker 14: the old pointy is what they did. You may not know,
34:31
Speaker 14: but your family was living next door to us out
34:34
Speaker 14: there at which is south. So it's been a wonderful
34:39
Speaker 14: day here. There's been people call all this sort of
34:43
Speaker 14: stuff and this is the top it off to talk
34:46
Speaker 14: to you, Peter, Oh are you beautiful.
34:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell my audience of your achievements because
34:52
Speaker 2: we talked about the footy, but which you prove Citizen
34:55
Speaker 2: of the Year best in Ferris for the football League,
34:57
Speaker 2: founder and owner of the worlandra Museum you just talked about.
35:00
Speaker 2: They're also involved in founding a museum at the local school.
35:04
Speaker 2: Former captain and volunteer at the tennis club, a member
35:07
Speaker 2: of the Men Shared volunteer, firefighter and Meals on Wheels volunteer,
35:11
Speaker 2: and of course one of the hardest working farmers we know.
35:14
Speaker 2: All the while you've quietly notched up sixty three years
35:18
Speaker 2: married to your beautiful wife. Why is doing something for
35:23
Speaker 2: your community so important.
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Speaker 14: To you, Mick, Well, right from the start, I was
35:29
Speaker 14: living in which you proof lucky to be born in
35:31
Speaker 14: which you proof actually and out of the backyard there
35:34
Speaker 14: was a working farm. Now in those days you had
35:38
Speaker 14: to work to survive. That was really good and the
35:42
Speaker 14: people around were working, so you're naturally learned and seen
35:45
Speaker 14: how to work. So in us, in your neighbors and
35:51
Speaker 14: everything like that, you depend on their support and you'll
35:57
Speaker 14: support them. And you've got a great community there and
36:01
Speaker 14: it's a great place to be. I was very, very
36:04
Speaker 14: lucky to be born here.
36:05
Speaker 2: For you, I know life's got easier for us over
36:10
Speaker 2: the years, and I know that the pioneers did it
36:12
Speaker 2: pretty tough.
36:14
Speaker 3: But do you think there's.
36:14
Speaker 2: Something that we've lost along the way.
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Speaker 3: You know that work.
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Speaker 14: Ethic, No, no, the work there, he's always been there.
36:24
Speaker 14: We've had pioneers in our family and I'm sure they
36:28
Speaker 14: would be proud of what I've attained now. They kicked
36:31
Speaker 14: out of the clearances in Scotland and settled here and
36:34
Speaker 14: they just came up to a bear paddock and had
36:36
Speaker 14: to fight to what we got here today. How they
36:40
Speaker 14: survived that always amazes me. Water would always be a problem,
36:45
Speaker 14: but they worked on and they had worked hard during
36:50
Speaker 14: the week they played footy or whatever. At the weekend
36:53
Speaker 14: they went to church and social life on Sunday. So
36:55
Speaker 14: they had a pretty good balance of life. So it
36:59
Speaker 14: all work and the way you can't do that. So
37:02
Speaker 14: we've got a good town here that has sporting clubs.
37:06
Speaker 14: You can play balls, cricket, football, whatever you want to
37:09
Speaker 14: do and it's people will so good. Eighty up you
37:16
Speaker 14: go up the street here. It's a nice place. Yeah,
37:19
Speaker 14: nice place to be.
37:21
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place. And Emma listening to him sprink about,
37:24
Speaker 2: which you can see why people call him the undeclared
37:29
Speaker 2: mayor or the unofficial mayor. Hey, I know you've you've
37:31
Speaker 2: written this journey with your dad, and you and I
37:33
Speaker 2: have talked about it often. I mean, you must be
37:35
Speaker 2: pretty proud today too.
37:38
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're just so proud.
37:40
Speaker 11: We already know that dad's a brilliant person, but to
37:44
Speaker 11: be acknowledged on a national level and recognize for all
37:48
Speaker 11: the hard work and dedication he's given to the Witchy
37:51
Speaker 11: Proof community is just you know, we're just really so
37:55
Speaker 11: so proud. Our whole family couldn't be prouder. And he
37:58
Speaker 11: really deserves it. He's had so much, many messages today
38:01
Speaker 11: from friends and family and people in the which I
38:04
Speaker 11: Proof community, and he's just been really really toughed. And
38:09
Speaker 11: as you know, Peter, great people come out of which
38:11
Speaker 11: you proof.
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Speaker 3: Here.
38:15
Speaker 2: And you know your dad won't say this, but he's
38:19
Speaker 2: grown up with a lot of adversity. He's had knocks
38:22
Speaker 2: all the way through life, but he continually gives back
38:25
Speaker 2: for others. And I think this is where, you know,
38:27
Speaker 2: I get these lists and I can almost skip through
38:30
Speaker 2: all the important people at the top and go to
38:32
Speaker 2: the really important people down the bottom who give back locally,
38:36
Speaker 2: and your dad's one of those people.
38:39
Speaker 11: He is, and we really appreciate you shining the light
38:42
Speaker 11: on these regional legends, these heroes that just work so
38:46
Speaker 11: hard on the land. Dad's been a farmer for a
38:49
Speaker 11: long time and he's just put so much into the community,
38:53
Speaker 11: and yeah, he just really deserves this. So it's just
38:57
Speaker 11: really nice to see the little guy comes through. And
39:02
Speaker 11: he's actually literally little, but good things come in small packages.
39:06
Speaker 9: Happened.
39:07
Speaker 11: He's just a legend. So yeah, we're just so incredibly
39:10
Speaker 11: proud today of him.
39:14
Speaker 2: I am so proud too. I'm really proud, and I
39:16
Speaker 2: am going to let you go because I know you've
39:18
Speaker 2: got a celebration to get to. But I'm thrilled, Mick
39:21
Speaker 2: and Emma two that you could join me tonight.
39:23
Speaker 3: Congratulations again, Thanks so much, Peter. Bye. All Right, isn't
39:30
Speaker 3: it gorgeous?
39:31
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Country towns are full of people
39:33
Speaker 2: like mc ginnings.
39:34
Speaker 3: We need more of them, though, don't we?
39:35
Speaker 5: All?
39:35
Speaker 3: Right?
39:35
Speaker 2: After the break, activist and self appointed victim Greta Tunberg
39:39
Speaker 2: at it again. But what does her later start actually
39:42
Speaker 2: achieve blast the tazzy mp House did at the last election,
39:45
Speaker 2: set for a tilt maybe at state politics.
39:53
Speaker 3: Beautiful interview, wasn't it gorgeous? Blow? All right? Welcome back?
39:57
Speaker 2: Greta Tumberg's guards are bound ship dub selfie yacht by
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Speaker 2: Israeli officials, has been intercepted now by the Israeli military.
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Speaker 3: In a pre recorded video, Timberg.
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Speaker 2: Claimed she and others were kidnapped in international borders.
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Speaker 3: Have a look.
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Speaker 13: My name is Githa Timber and I am from Sweden.
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Speaker 13: If you see this video, we have been intercepted and
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Speaker 13: kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces or
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Speaker 13: forces that support israel I. Urge all my friends, family
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Speaker 13: and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to
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Speaker 13: release me and the others as soon as possible.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: Israel's Foreign minister subsequently shared a photo of her smiling
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Speaker 2: being handed water and a sandwich by troops. The tweak
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Speaker 2: read Greta Tomberg is currently on her way to Israel
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Speaker 2: a safe and in good spirit. Yet Greta supporter is
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Speaker 2: a protest of this afternoon outside the Prime Minister's office
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Speaker 2: here in Australia joined me now to discuss this in more.
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Speaker 2: Queens Alighte and Senator James McGrath and One Nation Chief
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Speaker 2: of Staff for Pauline Hanson, James Ashby, Will Jens welcome.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, James McGrath, I think twice about
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Speaker 2: giving that woman any oxygen. And to be honest, I'm
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Speaker 2: actually more concerned about young Australians who looked to her
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Speaker 2: as some sort of saint protesting outside the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 2: office than indeed no carry on over in Israel.
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Speaker 3: What do you think?
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Speaker 8: It's sort of I'm just so angry that this person, Greta,
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Speaker 8: is getting any publicity whatsoever. Where was she when twelve
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Speaker 8: hundred Israelis were murdered by her mus What did she
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Speaker 8: say then? Absolutely nothing? And where were the people who
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Speaker 8: are protesting outside the Prime Minister's office after October seventh?
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Speaker 8: Were they protesting about the people who were butchered by
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Speaker 8: her Muss? Of course not. Greta is all about Greta
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Speaker 8: and all about her ego. And if she has to
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Speaker 8: sit down and be forced to watch the video of
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Speaker 8: the atrocities committed by Hamas, then that is a good
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Speaker 8: thing because maybe she'll learn something out of this cruise
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Speaker 8: across the Mediterranean.
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Speaker 2: And reportedly, James, that's what's said to happen. We'll see
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Speaker 2: if we get people inn update on that tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: James ash Fiona, You've been talking to a lot of
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Speaker 2: people inside the super superannuation industry. Of course, when Parliament returns,
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Speaker 2: that will be before One Nation senators to decide what
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Speaker 2: are you picking up?
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Speaker 15: Well, I had dinner with a financial advisor on Friday
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Speaker 15: night and the concerns they've got is they're being inundated
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Speaker 15: with phone calls from people with superannuation plans. But the
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Speaker 15: biggest problem that we see is it's not just affecting
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Speaker 15: those people with the three million plus. It's now starting
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Speaker 15: to really make people with superannuation balances of anywhere above
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Speaker 15: one and a half million start to question have they
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Speaker 15: got to slow things down because they don't want to
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Speaker 15: be caught in this trap as well. I even had
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Speaker 15: one person suggest to me, because they're a dual citizen,
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Speaker 15: they're going to leave the country. Do what backpackers do
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Speaker 15: leave rescind their Australian citizenship so that they can pull
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Speaker 15: their superannuation out and take it elsewhere. Now, this scheme
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Speaker 15: that was supposedly designed to catch a billionaires is not
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Speaker 15: going to work. The billionaires have gone. If you talk
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Speaker 15: to the high net worth individuals across this country, their
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Speaker 15: money has already left the country, and so this is
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Speaker 15: just going to go after those ordinary, everyday people that
43:32
Speaker 15: have tried to do the right thing. But at halftime
43:35
Speaker 15: during a game, this alban Easy government have said, no,
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Speaker 15: we're going to move the goalpost. We're going to change
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Speaker 15: the rules to this game. And for a government that
43:42
Speaker 15: has been so adamant about giving those people with disabilities
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Speaker 15: a quality of life right through till their passing, they
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Speaker 15: don't want a quality of life for those people in
43:54
Speaker 15: retirement any longer. Because I can't tell what my future holds.
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Speaker 15: As I get older, some people will require more money
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Speaker 15: than others, and the mere fact that they put that
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Speaker 15: money aside, they should be congratulated, not come after like
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Speaker 15: they have been in the last few months. There's four
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Speaker 15: trillion dollars that this labor government want to get their
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Speaker 15: hands on, and they're going to start coming after those retirees.
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Speaker 15: It is abysmal what this government are planning to do.
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Speaker 2: And also the President of unrealized gains being taxed, because
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Speaker 2: once it goes on super it'll absolutely be a cancer
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Speaker 2: across all investments. James, you know a bit about campaigns,
44:36
Speaker 2: as we often say, the New South Wales libs they're
44:39
Speaker 2: talking about whether or not they appeal the decision. In Bradfield,
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Speaker 2: Giselle Capterian lost there by twenty six votes to the Teal.
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Speaker 2: What would be the sort of grounds that you could
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Speaker 2: challenge it on.
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Speaker 8: The New South Wales Liberals will be in particularly looking
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Speaker 8: at there's one hundred and seventy votes that are originally
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Speaker 8: declared to be informal, but following the recount they were
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Speaker 8: declared to be formal, so there'll be a focus on
45:06
Speaker 8: those one hundred and seventy votes. They'll also be looking
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Speaker 8: at instances of where people may have voted more than
45:12
Speaker 8: once that you and I have discussed before, what voter
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Speaker 8: ID may stop that, and they'll also be looking into
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Speaker 8: any other mistakes that may have been made during the
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Speaker 8: vote counting process. This is a very serious thing the
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Speaker 8: New South Wales Liberals be looking into because they will
45:27
Speaker 8: have to go to the High Court sitting as the
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Speaker 8: Court of Disputed returns. But focus will be on these
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Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy votes.
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Speaker 2: Now, I won't put this one nder James, who's a
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Speaker 2: former colleague of yours, but I'll tell you what, James Ashby,
45:41
Speaker 2: I thought we'd got rid of bridget Archer. I know
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Speaker 2: she's a liberal. Son will tell me. I didn't say
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Speaker 2: much that she did that was ever liberal. She looks
45:49
Speaker 2: like she might make a comeback with a state tilt.
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Speaker 2: Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliffe, who's in more trouble in the
45:57
Speaker 2: early settlers, he's backing a pre selection.
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Speaker 3: But do you reckon? I thought we'd see in the
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Speaker 3: back of her, but she might come back.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I didn't think the Liberals would take it back. Look,
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Speaker 15: it's hard to survive off for eighty one thousand dollars,
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Speaker 15: which is the average wage down there in Tasmania, Peter.
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Speaker 15: Things are only getting dearer, So I'm assuming she's gone
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Speaker 15: from two hundred and twenty thousand dollars on a federal
46:18
Speaker 15: parliamentarian's wage. You're going to find it hard to get
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Speaker 15: a job down there that pays anywhere alike. So my
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Speaker 15: guess is this is all about the money. The confected outrage.
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Speaker 15: I saw her comments in the newspaper today. I just
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Speaker 15: thought were exactly that confected and she's just looking for
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Speaker 15: a cushy job back on those leather benches, but this
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Speaker 15: time in the Tasmanian Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Relevance deprivation syndrome as well as the cash I suspect.
46:45
Speaker 2: Let's go to housing because the federal Housing Minister, Clara o'neils,
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Speaker 2: promised to slash red tape to kickstart home building and reverse,
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Speaker 2: she says, a decade of collapse in the construction industry's productivity. James,
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Speaker 2: help me here, because I've had a good look at this,
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Speaker 2: i'vedug it into it. If the taxpayers are going to
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Speaker 2: fund one hundred thousand new homes, these are for low
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Speaker 2: income people, working people or first home buyers, how do
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Speaker 2: these people pay for them? Are we the taxpayer, going
47:15
Speaker 2: to get our money back? You know they're going to
47:17
Speaker 2: be sold at market rates? Are we giving them an
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Speaker 2: interest rate loan?
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Speaker 3: Here?
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about housing commissioned homes here. I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about homes for people who are working. I've never seen
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Speaker 2: the taxpayer involved in this way. How is it supposed
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Speaker 2: to work?
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Speaker 8: Well, let's just deal with the red tape first. Claire O'Neil,
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Speaker 8: as little as three months ago and a question at estimates,
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Speaker 8: it was revealed had never asked her department for ideas
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Speaker 8: on how to cut red tape, so for her to
47:49
Speaker 8: suddenly talk about cutting red tape. That's just a press release.
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Speaker 8: The same estimates also showed that the Department of Treasury
47:56
Speaker 8: and the Department of Infrastructure had brought in fifteen one
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Speaker 8: hundred new regulations that impact across the construction and housing sector.
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Speaker 8: So this is the labor government trying to fix a
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Speaker 8: problem they've caused themselves. For Peter, I'm with you. Labor
48:12
Speaker 8: are throwing billions of dollars at housing. And guess how
48:15
Speaker 8: many houses the federal labor government have built since they've
48:19
Speaker 8: come to power. Zero zips, Absolutely none. And the ten
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Speaker 8: billion dollars through that the Housing Infrastructure Fund is a
48:30
Speaker 8: bit of a boondoggle, but it's a very expensive boon
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Speaker 8: doggle because actually hasn't built anything yet, and so I
48:36
Speaker 8: don't know where the taxpayer's money is going to end up,
48:39
Speaker 8: but the taxpayers are going to be the ones who
48:41
Speaker 8: are going to bear the bill at the end of
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Speaker 8: this process.
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong, Jen.
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Speaker 2: Will leave it there, but we'll be talking about housing.
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Speaker 2: I suspect many times over. Thank you both for your time.
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Speaker 2: All right, enjoy the rest of your King's Birthday weekend holiday.
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Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow night at sixty is Andrew