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UK Column News Podcast 16th September 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the sixteenth September twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Bryan Geresh, delighted to have with me, Diane
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Speaker 1: Rasmusen mcaddie who'll be speaking from Scotland, and Ben Rubin
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Speaker 1: who'll be joining us from London. Well, probably the first
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Speaker 1: thing to say is we're going to feature Ukraine today.
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Speaker 1: A huge amount going on around Ukraine, through Ukraine, but
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, a really appalling war
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Speaker 1: with gross slaughter. But this appears to be one conflict
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Speaker 1: that the West wants to keep going for as long
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Speaker 1: as possible. So it shouldn't surprise us that we've seen
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Speaker 1: a huge amoun in the press about the West providing
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Speaker 1: more weapons, in particular missiles storm shadows. But of course
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Speaker 1: if anybody else wants to bring their missiles in Iran,
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Speaker 1: for instance, where it's been rumored that ballistic missiles have
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Speaker 1: been transferred to the Russians, well it's Western weapons good,
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Speaker 1: Eastern weapons bad. But there can be no doubt that
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Speaker 1: British politicians are desperate to escalate this war. And I'll
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Speaker 1: just say to our viewers that on Friday's news edition
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Speaker 1: with Mike Robinson, there was some really detailed information about
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Speaker 1: what had been reported around Ukraine, and you can see
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Speaker 1: this on the show notes from the UK column website,
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Speaker 1: but I've posted some of them on screen just so
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Speaker 1: that world viewers a UK column can get some idea
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Speaker 1: of the detail. And of course the time stamps also
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Speaker 1: go with this. So if you haven't seen Friday's news,
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Speaker 1: I'd encourage you to go back and have a look
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Speaker 1: at this. But let's start by featuring Admiral Bauer, who
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Speaker 1: is the Dutch admiral who's in charge the chairman of
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Speaker 1: the NATO Military Committee. Let's hear his message about the
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Speaker 1: wonders of Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: The NATO Military Committee is honored to have been so
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Speaker 2: warmly received despite the heavy rains in the beautiful Czech Republic.
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Speaker 2: We grateful to our hosts.
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Speaker 3: For bringing us here together at such a crucial.
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Speaker 2: Time for our alliance. Today, the NATO Military authorities discussed
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Speaker 2: the two herculean tasks that we need to undertake simultaneously.
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Speaker 2: While continuing and ramping up our support to Ukraine, we
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Speaker 2: must also bolster our own deterns and defense. Over the
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Speaker 2: past year, we have made huge strides in making NATO's
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Speaker 2: new defense plans fully executable. NATO now has five hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand troops on high readiness. We established the Allied Reaction Force,
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Speaker 2: we are adapting our command and control structure, and allies
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Speaker 2: are rapidly developing and expanding their capabilities. Training and exercises
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Speaker 2: play a key role in that. This year, the Alliance
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Speaker 2: held its largest collected defense exercise since the Cold War,
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Speaker 2: Steadfast Defender. Over ninety thousand troops from across the Alliance
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Speaker 2: exercised in Germany, Poland and the three Baltic States. This
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Speaker 2: demonstrates that a new era of collected defense is upon
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Speaker 2: us and NATO is stronger and readier than ever. But
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Speaker 2: the responsibility for freedom does not rest on the shoulders
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Speaker 2: of those in uniform alone. Today the chiefs of Defense
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Speaker 2: discussed the fact that strong turns requires strong societal resilience.
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Speaker 2: It requires a whole of society approach with a keen
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Speaker 2: role for the private sector. Not only our defense industries,
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Speaker 2: but our whole economies need to realize that peace is
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Speaker 2: no longer a given.
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Speaker 1: So an amazing statement there. Some of this is pure theater,
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Speaker 1: of course, because at the moment everything points to the
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Speaker 1: fact that NATO is in a complete shambles, and this
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Speaker 1: is why defense plans have got to be gripped. We
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Speaker 1: can't produce enough ammunition and NATO stocks run out in
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Speaker 1: some countries, all as a result of the attempts to
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Speaker 1: prop up Ukraine. But what does he say to us, Well,
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Speaker 1: you can expect war and more war, to the extent
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Speaker 1: that it's going to absorb the whole of Western societies.
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Speaker 1: I believe this man and his committee are extremely dangerous
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Speaker 1: because no, he is talking about stopping the war in Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: But maybe it gets worse because as put this one
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Speaker 1: on screen, we've got the Kiev Independent here Selensky to
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Speaker 1: present the US with a victory plan in September. Things
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Speaker 1: not going well for Ukraine in the war. But we
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Speaker 1: are to believe that Selenski and his team have come
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Speaker 1: up with a victory plan that's got to be presented
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Speaker 1: to the Americans, because without the Americans there will be
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Speaker 1: no victory for Ukraine. If we take a look here
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Speaker 1: at another article, it gets interesting because there's been a
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Speaker 1: big spat recently because it was suggested that Zelensky might
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Speaker 1: actually accept a ceasefire on certain sections of the front,
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Speaker 1: but this has been refuted in the Kiev Independent and
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Speaker 1: here with Ukraine Pravd. Basically, Zelensky's communication advisor Metro Litvin
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Speaker 1: has said that this was a fake story and that
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Speaker 1: builds the German newspaper hadn't seen the plan and what
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Speaker 1: had been reported was complete nonsense. He goes on to
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Speaker 1: say that nobody will give the Russians Mins three or
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Speaker 1: any other format. Ukraine opposes any freezing of the war
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Speaker 1: and this stance is communicated by Ukrainian authorities at all levels.
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Speaker 1: The victory plan will be presented to the United States first,
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Speaker 1: because the United States can ensure the implementation of its content.
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Speaker 1: They are desperate to have the Americans on board because
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Speaker 1: without the Americans, Ukraine will no longer be fighting this war. Now,
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Speaker 1: if we have to look at the Kiev Post, so
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Speaker 1: this all giving us a flavor of what's in the
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian minds. The Kiev Post is using the Institute for
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Speaker 1: the Study of War Maps and Analysis, and effectively, therefore
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Speaker 1: the Kiev Posts is using this materi alongside the BBC
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Speaker 1: in the UK's Ministry of Defense to regurgitate their analysis
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Speaker 1: and the Institute for the Study of War themselves are
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Speaker 1: also quoting military bloggers. Now, they're so desperate to understand
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Speaker 1: what's happening on the front, they're using military bloggers. We've
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Speaker 1: talked about the Institute before, but let's remind ourselves about
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Speaker 1: the mission and what it has to say. It says,
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Speaker 1: the Institute for the Study of War advances and informed
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Speaker 1: understanding of military affairs through reliable research, trusted analysis, and
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Speaker 1: innovative education. We are committed to improving the nation's ability
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Speaker 1: to execute military operations. They're talking about the US and
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Speaker 1: respond to emerging threats in order to quote achieve US
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Speaker 1: strategic objectives. So this organization is all about US objectives.
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Speaker 1: Yet it tries to say that it's non partisan. This
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Speaker 1: is completely nonsense. Now, over the weekend, I came across
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Speaker 1: this report from August, which is the Institute of War
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Speaker 1: talking about problems of restoring maneuver in the contemporary War
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Speaker 1: of Ukraine. What it's really saying is the Ukrainians are
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Speaker 1: losing and they don't know how to deal with it.
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Speaker 1: And it says that the United States and its allies
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Speaker 1: and partners must understand and internalize the lessons of this war.
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Speaker 1: So this is a battlefield laboratory. But the one thing
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Speaker 1: this document does not talk about, apart from the odd
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Speaker 1: word and certainly no numbers, is the casualty. But this
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Speaker 1: is a battlefield laboratory, which is a benefit not to
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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians but to the US, the UK and the West.
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Speaker 1: And here's the reality. It states that the Russians have
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Speaker 1: gone over to the offensive along the entire line and
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Speaker 1: appear intent on continuing offensive operations indefinitely. But of course
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Speaker 1: we've been told over weeks and months and indeed years
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Speaker 1: that the Russians had or were going to run out
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Speaker 1: of shells and they were to lose to the wonder
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Speaker 1: weapons of the Leopard challenger in Abraham's tanks and of
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Speaker 1: course the F sixteens. None of this has happened, all
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Speaker 1: complete nonsense and propaganda for the Western public. What it
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Speaker 1: does go on to say is that Ukraine faces enormous
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Speaker 1: challenges today and in the months to come, and they're
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Speaker 1: unlikely to be able to initiate significant counter offensive operations
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and into twenty twenty five. So
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Speaker 1: a Russian offensive at the moment has parallels as excuse me,
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Speaker 1: paralyzed operations by the Ukrainians but what does it go
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Speaker 1: on to say, this should be a time of experimentation
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Speaker 1: that should increasingly let Ukraine challenge Russian forces for the
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Speaker 1: initiative in parts of the theater, while exploring opportunities for
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Speaker 1: future more substantial counter offensive operations. Of course, as the
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Speaker 1: West experiments, Ukrainian troops die. Now he is one of
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Speaker 1: the maps from the Institute that Study a War And
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Speaker 1: of course this is showing us as this institute, which
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Speaker 1: is very powerful in the West in UK with the
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Speaker 1: BBC and the UK Ministry of Defense, this is pushing
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Speaker 1: for the use of long range weapons and it's showing
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Speaker 1: you by the red marker pins where Russian targets are
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Speaker 1: that can be reached by these new weapons. So this
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Speaker 1: organization is pushing extremely hard for these weapons to be
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Speaker 1: used as part of the experimentation on the battlefield. And
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Speaker 1: in this diagram you can see how close these attacks
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Speaker 1: can move to Moscow. So my question is what would
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Speaker 1: the West outcry be if the Russian attacks were themselves
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Speaker 1: taking place within one hundred miles of London. But a
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Speaker 1: lot of detail in these particular maps, and all of
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Speaker 1: them are actually pushing for these weapons to be unleashed
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Speaker 1: on Russian sovereign territory in order to keep the Ukrainian
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Speaker 1: war going and the battlefield laboratory operating. It goes on
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Speaker 1: here to say categorically that the West must provide Ukraine
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Speaker 1: with long range strike systems and the full permission to
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Speaker 1: use them. And it also talks about missiles and drones
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Speaker 1: because essentially these things have to be used hand in glove.
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Speaker 1: So this is one organization highly influential in uk and
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Speaker 1: the US pushing for the use of these long range
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Speaker 1: weapons into Russia. And I'm going to restate that when
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Speaker 1: you look at this report, there is absolutely no mention
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Speaker 1: of circa four hundred thousand Ukrainian and one hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: Russian dead. They don't feature because this is a battlefield
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Speaker 1: laboratory for the West and the fighting must continue for
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Speaker 1: experimentation reasons until the last Ukrainian Here's part of the conclusion.
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Speaker 1: It says that helping Ukraine accomplish its task is vital
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Speaker 1: for Ukraine's supporters as well. Unlocking the secrets here's the detail.
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Speaker 1: Unlocking the secrets of effective warfare in the modern era
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Speaker 1: will point the way for the future development of the
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Speaker 1: war fighting capabilities of the United States and its allies
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Speaker 1: and partners around the world. So this is really sickening
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Speaker 1: stuff that the violence and the killing is to go
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Speaker 1: on in Ukraine simply because the West's military industrial complex
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Speaker 1: can benefit and learn for future conflicts. Now to do
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Speaker 1: or to carry out such a callous agender unique callous politicians.
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Speaker 1: So let's bring one of Britain's finest on screen.
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Speaker 4: Kirstarmer has pledged three billion pounds in aid to Ukraine
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Speaker 4: that they use they use for military use. That is
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Speaker 4: more money speeded up. They have asked for further missiles.
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Speaker 4: We have provided them. We are in discussion with them
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Speaker 4: about ensuring that they get through the winter. In the
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Speaker 4: strongest of position as to Putin.
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Speaker 2: Going to get.
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Speaker 4: Putin Trevor Missilestin said, Putin said, Putin said, don't send tanks.
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Speaker 4: We sent them. Putin said, don't send any missiles. We
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Speaker 4: sent them. Putin threatens every few months to use nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 4: It's totally unaccepted. We won't be bullied by Putin, shameless
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Speaker 4: shameless grand side standing. What he should now do is
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Speaker 4: ceases aggression and leave Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: That's what he should do.
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Speaker 1: So some people in the UK column chat box as
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Speaker 1: we deliver this news are calling this man a clown. Well,
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Speaker 1: he may be a clown, but ultimately he's extremely arrogant,
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Speaker 1: very very dangerous, and ultimately it's beholden on the public
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Speaker 1: of UK to halt to bring this man to account.
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Speaker 1: But this is the quality of politician under Keir Starmer
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Speaker 1: calling for direct attacks on Russian soil. And what will
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Speaker 1: the Russian reaction be? Well, they've indicated in kind so
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Speaker 1: very very dangerous. But if that's lammy, let's bring our
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Speaker 1: old friend Boris Johnson back on screens.
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Speaker 5: Do you have a message for Germany, for Terence Charlotte?
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Speaker 5: Do you think it's time.
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Speaker 6: For the long rangeeness that's coming from Germany?
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Speaker 7: I think that Olapp has done extraordinary things already, but
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Speaker 7: I do think that the towers needs to be deployed,
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Speaker 7: and I hope very much that the German government will
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Speaker 7: do that. But I also, you know, I think we
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Speaker 7: all need to do more, and that includes the United Kingdom,
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Speaker 7: of United States, France, and we all need to do
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Speaker 7: more together, and I'm not sure we will.
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Speaker 8: Important are the US elections for this war?
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Speaker 9: Trump?
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Speaker 7: Harry I said just now. I hope very much that
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Speaker 7: America will continue with the policy of supporting Ukraine. Whoever
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Speaker 7: is the whoever is the president.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, so Boris Johnson. They're joyfully calling
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Speaker 1: for the German equivalent of storm Shadow to be unleashed
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Speaker 1: on Russia. And these are quotes from him. It's heartbreaking
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Speaker 1: to visit wounded veterans in recovery centers in Kiev this weekend,
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Speaker 1: but he goes on to say that some of these
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Speaker 1: casualties could have been avoided if we had given Stormshadow
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Speaker 1: permissions earlier. So use of these weapons could have saved lives.
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Speaker 1: And this is another part of one of his quotes.
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Speaker 1: There's no conceivable case for delay. The only person who
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Speaker 1: fears escalation is for Vladimir Putin, and every day that
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Speaker 1: goes by is a lost opportunity to save lives and
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Speaker 1: bring about a just conclusion to this war. This is
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Speaker 1: the state of this man, jaded politician and now so
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Speaker 1: called media star. But just to end this segment, of course,
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Speaker 1: the events around Trump over the weekend, well yesterday in fact,
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Speaker 1: the BBC on the case what we know about the
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Speaker 1: Trump attack and the suspect. Of course, remember that for
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Speaker 1: whatever his faults, Trump has said that if he's elected
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Speaker 1: he will put an end to the war in Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: But here's the BBC Ross Atkins Analysis editor under BBC
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Speaker 1: Verify really to my mind, gloating about event and getting
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Speaker 1: very excited because he's discovered that Ryan Ruth, who's the
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Speaker 1: ment the man accused of being there ready to assassinate Trump,
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Speaker 1: was at one stage recruiting soldiers for Ukraine. So the
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Speaker 1: BBC getting very excited. But of course, if we go back,
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Speaker 1: it was the BBC themselves here in March twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: two who were promoting mercenaries, people going to fight for
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Speaker 1: money in Ukraine, those people being the guardians of democracy,
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Speaker 1: humanity and heritage. Sickening hypocrisy by the BBC, and of
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Speaker 1: course not one word of peace in Ukraine, certainly not
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Speaker 1: in the form of a cessation to hostilities. Diane, Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the News today. This is the world we live in.
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Speaker 1: But these same people, many people would say, psychopaths, sociopaths,
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Speaker 1: have got plans for the globe as a whole. What
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Speaker 1: can you tell us?
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Speaker 5: Thanks Brian, and hello Ben, it's good to be here today. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I have a globalist report that hopefully will kind of
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Speaker 5: situate some of these things for you. Including a bit
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Speaker 5: just a bit about Ukraine, which will come later on
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Speaker 5: in the segment. So for those of you who are
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Speaker 5: going to be in New York for the next week
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Speaker 5: or so, starting this weekend, the seventy ninth session of
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Speaker 5: the United Nations General Assembly is happening, so in case
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Speaker 5: you want to pop into some other meetings, they'll be
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Speaker 5: right there for you. And Debbie Evans has covered earlier
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Speaker 5: this year in her blog and on the news the
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Speaker 5: Summit of the Future, which is a specific high level
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Speaker 5: event which will be happening as part of or sort
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Speaker 5: I think before the General Assembly takes place. And what
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Speaker 5: is the Summer of the Future. Well, you can go
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Speaker 5: back and look at Debbie's reports, but ultimately what it
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Speaker 5: says is they are going to be working on a
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Speaker 5: Pact for the Future to chart a path towards achieving
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Speaker 5: the sustainable development goals or as I call them, unsustainable
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Speaker 5: and responding to emerging challenges and opportunities, which will include
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Speaker 5: a Global Digital Compact any declaration on Future Generations as annexes.
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Speaker 5: So there are five key themes for the pack. Some
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Speaker 5: of these should start to sound familiar to you. The
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Speaker 5: one at the top is sustainable development, which is the
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Speaker 5: one I'm going to go into international peace and security, science, technology, innovation,
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Speaker 5: youth and future generations, and transforming global governance. So just
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Speaker 5: as review Sustainable Development Goal thirteen is what they call
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Speaker 5: climate action at the UN and other related organizations. Here
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Speaker 5: at the UK column, I call it you will not breathe,
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Speaker 5: because this is all about what they are going to
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Speaker 5: do to us and the impact it will have on us.
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Speaker 5: So I want to go back into history and also
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Speaker 5: bring us back into the future just to kind of
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Speaker 5: show where some of this little bit of a little
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Speaker 5: bit of globalism, a little bit of sustainable development ter race,
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Speaker 5: some potential possibilities that I see in some of the
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Speaker 5: research I've been doing around this recently. So if any
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Speaker 5: of you were around in nineteen seventy two, and remember,
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Speaker 5: there was a best seller by the Club of Rome
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Speaker 5: called The Limits to Growth and the the Club of
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Speaker 5: Room was started in nineteen seventy two was when this
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Speaker 5: was published. But in nineteen sixty eight, doctor Aurelio Pachai,
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Speaker 5: who was one of the three co founders of the
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Speaker 5: Club of Rome, got thirty people together in Rome to
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Speaker 5: discuss what he called the present and future predicament of Man. Now,
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Speaker 5: the three founders of the Club of Rome were a philanthropist,
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Speaker 5: which was a doctor Aurelio Pachai, a chemist, and a banker.
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Speaker 5: The banker was David Rockefeller. And so of course with
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Speaker 5: a chemist, a banker and a philanthropist altogether, what could
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Speaker 5: possibly go wrong? Right, while we have the Club of
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Speaker 5: Rome as a result, and so that was published in
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Speaker 5: nineteen seventy two. So now I want to go into
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Speaker 5: someone who I don't believe has been covered on the
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Speaker 5: column recently or at all, is, as far as I
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Speaker 5: can tell, may have been. But this is someone that
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Speaker 5: I found out about from a new friend of mine
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Speaker 5: that I met at the Academy of Ideas conference that
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Speaker 5: I went to a few weeks ago. And his name
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Speaker 5: is doctor Paul Raskin. Doctor Paul rass got a PhD
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Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy in theoretical physics from Columbia University. His
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Speaker 5: thesis was high energy particle potentials and their application to
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Speaker 5: the scattering of particles off nuclei. Now you might wonder
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Speaker 5: what that has to do with sustainable development, But I'm
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Speaker 5: wondering if I haven't been able to read his thesis.
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Speaker 5: But I'm wondering what happened between nineteen seventy and nineteen
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Speaker 5: seventy six. Nineteen seventy two, the Club of Rome Report
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Speaker 5: was published. Nineteen seventy six, doctor Raskin founded the Energy
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Speaker 5: Systems Research Group ESERG. In nineteen eighty he was part
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Speaker 5: of the report that was sent to US Congress called
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Speaker 5: New England can reduce its oil dependents through conservation and
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Speaker 5: Renewable Resource Development. In nineteen ninety ESRG became renamed as
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Speaker 5: the Tellis Institute and according to the website, they have
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Speaker 5: conducted over three thousand, five hundred projects throughout the world,
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Speaker 5: becoming internationally recognized in sustainable development, and that since nineteen
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Speaker 5: seventy six. When they remember that tell Us, which was
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Speaker 5: something that I think is interesting, remember this for later.
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Speaker 5: Tell Us is also the word in Roman mythology for
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Speaker 5: mother Earth, so it's basically sort of a Guya of
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Speaker 5: Earth worshiping kind of elements to that name. In nineteen
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Speaker 5: ninety five he can Ben the Global Scenario Group to
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Speaker 5: explore the requirements for a transition to a sustainable and
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Speaker 5: just global civilization, and as of twenty twenty four he
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Speaker 5: is still alive and the Tellis Institute is now embarked
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Speaker 5: any new phase reframing our programs around the larger mission
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Speaker 5: of advancing a just and sustainable planetary civilization. So I
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Speaker 5: believe we have a video here of a bit of
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Speaker 5: an interview with doctor Raskin, if we can play that please.
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Speaker 10: When we discuss scenarios, we talk about three broad channels
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Speaker 10: radiating out into the future. One we call conventional worlds,
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Speaker 10: basically an evolutionary sequence of events, despite hiccups like the
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Speaker 10: current meltdown, that the basic paradigm and values persist into
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Speaker 10: the future. The second channels barbarization, which markets and policies
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Speaker 10: are unable to cope with the crises and the chaos
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Speaker 10: and the social disruption and the environmental deterioration that is
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Speaker 10: induced by conventional worlds, and you have futures of catastrophic disruption.
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Speaker 10: And the third we call great transitions, where people rise
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Speaker 10: to the possibilities, to the promise of this planetary phase
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Speaker 10: with new values and new institutions and steer and development
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Speaker 10: steers towards a more fortunate form of civilization.
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Speaker 5: So we have here a SLIDEIK just kind of shows
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Speaker 5: this is also on their website, the Great Transition, which
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Speaker 5: is a project of the Tellis Institute and colleagues. So
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Speaker 5: basically seeing that trends and forces that are going around
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Speaker 5: in the world lead to these potential three scenarios. So
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Speaker 5: the scenarios are basically things that could happen. We could
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Speaker 5: kind of stay on track to where we are, We
24:01
Speaker 5: could fall into vibriization where everything falls apart and everyone's
24:04
Speaker 5: poor and hungry, or we could have these wonderful great transitions,
24:08
Speaker 5: which I believe are related to Marxism, as we'll see next.
24:11
Speaker 5: I won't go into a lot of detail. All of
24:13
Speaker 5: these things are in the show notes. If you really
24:15
Speaker 5: want to go into the detail, I've done it so
24:17
Speaker 5: you don't have to, fortunately for the.
24:19
Speaker 3: Rest of you.
24:20
Speaker 5: But basically, they're pushing the line of equity to show
24:23
Speaker 5: that the great transitions scenario that they have come up
24:26
Speaker 5: with will be the most equitable, which, of course equity.
24:29
Speaker 5: As a reminder from last week from Ben Rubin saying
24:32
Speaker 5: wook Marxism, equity means we all end up in the
24:35
Speaker 5: same place, which means that we will no longer have
24:37
Speaker 5: will who they're basically they're trying to do away with
24:39
Speaker 5: capitalism and replace it with communism, which I've found a
24:42
Speaker 5: lot of evidence for as I've gone through this and
24:45
Speaker 5: the Great Transition two thousand and two document that they wrote. Again,
24:48
Speaker 5: these are all online, freely available. We had the takeoff
24:51
Speaker 5: of the planetary transition from nineteen eighty to two thousand,
24:54
Speaker 5: when we had all this climate change, the advent of
24:57
Speaker 5: the Internet, the collapse to the Soviet and so on.
25:01
Speaker 5: And you can see from twenty from twenty to twenty fifty.
25:05
Speaker 5: By time we get to to twenty fifty, we've already
25:08
Speaker 5: had the transition. So according to them, we're in the
25:10
Speaker 5: middle of this transition as we're going through it right now.
25:13
Speaker 5: Doctor Raskin published a book called Journey to Earthland and
25:17
Speaker 5: this and the other publications were published by the Stockholm
25:20
Speaker 5: Environment Institute, which is a research institute that tackles these
25:24
Speaker 5: environmental challenges. So obviously they are all over the World
25:27
Speaker 5: Economic Forum website and they have locations throughout the world.
25:32
Speaker 5: Is in your one is an Oxford in case you
25:33
Speaker 5: want to stop by and say hello. They work together
25:36
Speaker 5: with the Teles Institute for several years and you can
25:38
Speaker 5: see a lot of evidence that throughout all of this
25:40
Speaker 5: documentation as well. So there's a copy of Journey to Earthland,
25:45
Speaker 5: where he says that Marx said that people make their
25:48
Speaker 5: own history, but not as they please. Historical necessity curbs
25:53
Speaker 5: human freedom. So that's an important Pointmurper later and we
25:56
Speaker 5: see further on in the Great Transition Documents, we see
25:59
Speaker 5: a couple of papers directually quoting Marxism and ecology, and
26:03
Speaker 5: these papers point out that Marx's theory was ecological sustainability
26:08
Speaker 5: came from Marx which says this is the crisis of
26:11
Speaker 5: the Earth which needs to lead us from capitalism to communism,
26:15
Speaker 5: and that is central to his view of communism taking
26:18
Speaker 5: place replacing capitalism essentially. So where does that take us
26:22
Speaker 5: to you? From here? Now we look at we have
26:25
Speaker 5: on the United Nations. There is where they cited doctor
26:27
Speaker 5: Raskin's work in twenty eighteen the role of civil society
26:31
Speaker 5: devanced the global citizenship, and just to show that his
26:35
Speaker 5: work is being used even though we may not necessarily
26:37
Speaker 5: know who he is specifically, but his work is very influential.
26:42
Speaker 5: So coming back to twenty twenty two and back to
26:44
Speaker 5: the Club of Rome again, we see in this book
26:47
Speaker 5: Earth for All, which is a fifty year update to
26:50
Speaker 5: the publication that they started fifty years ago, so Earth
26:53
Speaker 5: for All uses the limits to growth and planetary boundaries framework.
26:58
Speaker 5: So planetary boundaries were something that that came up during
27:01
Speaker 5: the work in the past with a great transition and
27:04
Speaker 5: colleagues that worked directly with doctor Raskin, and we can
27:07
Speaker 5: see this in the document. So let's see a little
27:10
Speaker 5: bit of a video clip parts of video from the
27:13
Speaker 5: Club Realm, who does, by the way, have a YouTube channel,
27:15
Speaker 5: and see what some of the authors from the Club
27:17
Speaker 5: Realm said about this work. We are proposing five turnarounds
27:24
Speaker 5: paid for by the ten percent reaches people in the world.
27:28
Speaker 8: If we put in place the five turnarounds that we
27:31
Speaker 8: talk about, the focusing on inequality, the focus on poverty,
27:36
Speaker 8: the focus on empowerment, and then food and energy is
27:39
Speaker 8: the two key resources that will keep us alive as
27:43
Speaker 8: we're faced with some of these ongoing crises, then we
27:47
Speaker 8: actually could get ourselves out of this mess.
27:51
Speaker 11: And the interesting thing with these five turnarounds is that
27:53
Speaker 11: they can be scaled from communities to cities, to sectors, nations, regions,
27:58
Speaker 11: and then globally. That's what you're looking for, like a
28:00
Speaker 11: fractal set of fractals that escalate or percolate down from
28:05
Speaker 11: the global economic system all the way down.
28:10
Speaker 12: I'm absolutely convinced that the Ukraine war will help us
28:16
Speaker 12: to accelerate the transition away from oil colon natural gas, so.
28:21
Speaker 11: We could see an energy democracy where local sources, microgrids,
28:26
Speaker 11: local areas, you don't have to rely so much on
28:29
Speaker 11: the global fossil energy system.
28:36
Speaker 12: What we're facing is not an environmental crisis, is a
28:40
Speaker 12: crisis of security, of stability, of prosperity and equity. And
28:45
Speaker 12: that's what Earth for All really brings forward.
28:51
Speaker 5: So what they're trying to do with Earth for All
28:53
Speaker 5: as they're doing, and I've again I've read the book
28:55
Speaker 5: most of it, so you don't have to, you certainly
28:58
Speaker 5: can if you want to. Is a couple of important
29:00
Speaker 5: things that come out of it, again, the tie with Ukraine,
29:02
Speaker 5: saying that the war will help us to accelerate the
29:04
Speaker 5: transition away from oil, coal and natural gas. The last
29:09
Speaker 5: man who was speaking there was Johann Rockstrom. He is
29:12
Speaker 5: previously with the Stockholm Environmental Institute as well as the
29:15
Speaker 5: Stockholm Resilience Center, which were previously partnered and published the
29:20
Speaker 5: works of the Telenis Institute as well as you know,
29:23
Speaker 5: he's all these people are involved in the Club of Rome.
29:26
Speaker 5: Sandrine Dixon, who was in the video saw she was
29:29
Speaker 5: wearing her little Sustainable Development Goals badge very proudly. She
29:33
Speaker 5: is the co president of the Club of Rome. And
29:36
Speaker 5: again another important point to come out of this is
29:38
Speaker 5: that this will all be paid for by the richest
29:40
Speaker 5: ten percent, which they will do by taxing higher income
29:44
Speaker 5: people and just redistributing it. So again we see the
29:47
Speaker 5: trend towards Marxism there. It's also important to note that
29:50
Speaker 5: the whole system transformation is very important to all of this.
29:54
Speaker 5: It's not just about the climate anymore. It's not just
29:57
Speaker 5: about it's too hot or too cold or whatever. It
30:00
Speaker 5: is a whole system transformation which includes things like gender equity,
30:04
Speaker 5: which is also in this book. So again the end
30:07
Speaker 5: of gender saying that basically they're going to control the
30:09
Speaker 5: population by allowing women to get more education and therefore
30:13
Speaker 5: we will have a richer economy, which they believe therefore
30:16
Speaker 5: leads to people having fewer children. So that's the plan
30:19
Speaker 5: leading up to twenty one hundred and how they plan
30:21
Speaker 5: to look at this population control issue. So back to
30:25
Speaker 5: the Summit of the Future, we look at the Earth
30:28
Speaker 5: for all websites, so it has been restylized. It's very
30:31
Speaker 5: nice and trendy. Now it has the number four instead
30:34
Speaker 5: of the word for Compared to the original book, we
30:36
Speaker 5: have the nice, colorful, bright sustainable development goals making us
30:40
Speaker 5: feel lot happy. And they have set on the fourth
30:42
Speaker 5: of September that advance of the Summit of the Future.
30:45
Speaker 5: They have released a new report detailing two possible futures
30:48
Speaker 5: for Sub Saharan Africa this century. So again they're going
30:51
Speaker 5: back to this scenario development and instead of having things
30:55
Speaker 5: like barbarization, great transition and conventional worlds, we now have
30:59
Speaker 5: two scenarios. One is called too little, too late, which
31:02
Speaker 5: is if we just kind of talk slightly about sustainability
31:05
Speaker 5: and don't really do much, we're going to be in
31:07
Speaker 5: trouble from their point of view. The other one is
31:10
Speaker 5: the giant leap, in which they particularly mentioned universal basic income.
31:15
Speaker 5: That's something coming in if the giant leap scenario, which
31:17
Speaker 5: is a first one they want, comes into place, that's
31:20
Speaker 5: the decrease of women having fewer babies, the population going down.
31:24
Speaker 5: And at the end of the book it talks about
31:27
Speaker 5: valuing equality, diversity, on inclusion and saying that is the
31:31
Speaker 5: start to valuing our future and where we need to
31:34
Speaker 5: go from here to make all of these things more
31:35
Speaker 5: equitable and just and sustainable. So what's happening in the
31:40
Speaker 5: next few days at the Summer of the Future. The
31:42
Speaker 5: Club of Rome has three events that they are hosting.
31:45
Speaker 5: One is the Intergenerational Leadership for Innovation and Sustainability on
31:49
Speaker 5: the twentieth. On the twenty first, we won't be exploring
31:52
Speaker 5: proposals from the Whales Protocol for Future Generations and how
31:55
Speaker 5: they can build into kind of the Future Generations Declaration
31:59
Speaker 5: that they're building. And the twenty second of September, the
32:01
Speaker 5: high point is the High Level Roundtable on Equity and
32:04
Speaker 5: Planetary Stability featuring Sir Richard Branson himself. So we can
32:08
Speaker 5: see high profile people going on there at the u
32:11
Speaker 5: N And I just want to end this by asking
32:13
Speaker 5: a quick question, which is why are we doing this?
32:17
Speaker 5: And so I want to go back to King Charles
32:18
Speaker 5: and the Terra Cotta, which was part of his Sustainable
32:21
Speaker 5: Markets initiative. And you know in twenty twenty in Davis
32:26
Speaker 5: he introduced the Sustainable Markets Initiative, which was a proposed
32:30
Speaker 5: set of principles leading up to twenty thirty. That puts nature,
32:33
Speaker 5: people in planet at the heart of global value creation.
32:36
Speaker 5: So I think there's woke Marxism going on. I think
32:39
Speaker 5: there's obviously a major financial implication here because I think
32:43
Speaker 5: he just got it. King Charles just got a forty
32:45
Speaker 5: five million pound raise. I believe I certainly didn't get
32:48
Speaker 5: that much of a raise. And the Earth Warship, I
32:51
Speaker 5: think is an important thing to keep track of, the
32:53
Speaker 5: tell us the the people and planet and environment in
32:58
Speaker 5: nature all being together many you know, really that destruction
33:03
Speaker 5: of civilization that the West, the Christian views that some
33:06
Speaker 5: people have in the West. They think they're trying to
33:08
Speaker 5: deal away with us by putting this into play. So
33:10
Speaker 5: those are just my thoughts or are just questions, Brian,
33:13
Speaker 5: I don't know what you think.
33:15
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that.
33:16
Speaker 10: Diane.
33:17
Speaker 1: Well, as we've seen the quality of the politicians wherever
33:19
Speaker 1: they are UK or overseas, I don't think they should
33:22
Speaker 1: be allowed to drive such a gender. But when the
33:25
Speaker 1: gentleman said that the Ukraine War was good for this transforming,
33:31
Speaker 1: transformative change for the future, I've got to say my
33:35
Speaker 1: blood went cold. Ben. Let's bring you in because Amnesty
33:40
Speaker 1: is an organization that supposedly stands up for the underdog worldwide.
33:44
Speaker 1: What have you been discovering?
33:48
Speaker 13: Yes, indeed, thank you Brian, thank you, Diane. Hello, everybody.
33:52
Speaker 13: Great to be here. As ever, I've got a bit
33:55
Speaker 13: of an update. So we've been doing some reporting on
33:58
Speaker 13: the Walflesto pro test and a letter that I sent
34:03
Speaker 13: to Amnesty UK chief executive Sasha Deshmuk and I finally
34:07
Speaker 13: got a response came through on Friday, and I'm going
34:11
Speaker 13: to report on that and let you know what they
34:13
Speaker 13: come back to me with.
34:15
Speaker 3: Just to refresh everyone's memory.
34:17
Speaker 13: It was particularly related to this comment by former labor
34:22
Speaker 13: counselor Ricky Jones.
34:28
Speaker 4: We need to.
34:32
Speaker 13: Who So, as we've reported on the show before, Ricky
34:40
Speaker 13: Jones was arrested. He's been charged and he's going to
34:43
Speaker 13: court in January. But at the time I noticed the
34:49
Speaker 13: individual stood next to Jones in the video wearing an
34:53
Speaker 13: Amnesty International high vis vest you can see here with
34:57
Speaker 13: a little red arrow pointing towards her. And I send
35:01
Speaker 13: a message to Sasha Deshmuk which you can read on
35:05
Speaker 13: my substack RISEUK dot substack dot com. And there's Sasha.
35:09
Speaker 13: He's the chief executive of Amnesty UK, just a query essentially,
35:14
Speaker 13: how it was that someone who apparently works for his
35:17
Speaker 13: organization could be out on the street essentially applauding the
35:21
Speaker 13: statement like that. As Brian said in the introduction, there
35:25
Speaker 13: Amnesty is posed up, is supposed to stand up against tyranny.
35:30
Speaker 13: But here we can see Amnesty unfortunately standing alongside it. Now,
35:35
Speaker 13: I'm just going to read you a couple of pieces
35:37
Speaker 13: from the letter that I sent. You can, as I say,
35:39
Speaker 13: you can go and see this. It's on my substack.
35:42
Speaker 13: We're sent on the thirteenth of August. And essentially I
35:45
Speaker 13: said here too, Sasha, it's hard to overstate the danger
35:48
Speaker 13: of the road. This kind of rhetoric will take us
35:50
Speaker 13: down if allowed to continue. The potential for extreme violence
35:53
Speaker 13: across the UK has never been greater. The tone of
35:57
Speaker 13: public discourse must de escalate and remain peaceful, or else
36:00
Speaker 13: we risk serious harms being inflicted on the population, and
36:05
Speaker 13: not least by other members of the population.
36:07
Speaker 3: What do I mean by that? It leads to places
36:10
Speaker 3: like this.
36:10
Speaker 13: This is from the S twenty one torture chamber in
36:12
Speaker 13: and on pen This's we've done under the Khmer Ruse.
36:14
Speaker 3: I'm not going to labor the point.
36:16
Speaker 13: I've talked about it quite a lot recently, but this
36:18
Speaker 13: is the kind of thing that happens on the back
36:20
Speaker 13: of that kind of rhetoric, and we need organizations like
36:24
Speaker 13: Amnesty to come through and begin denouncing this. So my
36:29
Speaker 13: questions to Sasha, as I sent through to him, were
36:31
Speaker 13: as follows, do you and Amnesty condemn those statements made
36:35
Speaker 13: by Ricky Jones? Can you confirm whether the woman in
36:38
Speaker 13: the video whearing the Amnesty top is Ulrika Schmidt who
36:42
Speaker 13: is the Amnesty UK country coordinator as we found out
36:46
Speaker 13: after the original broadcast, And if the woman is in
36:48
Speaker 13: the video is Alruka Schmidt, can you confirm whether she
36:52
Speaker 13: will be asked to resign her position as Amnesty UK
36:54
Speaker 13: country coordinator. Very reasonable questions, I think, given the tone
36:59
Speaker 13: and the content of what was said there. Now that
37:01
Speaker 13: was over a month ago, and I know from people
37:06
Speaker 13: in my telegram channel that they were sending in comments
37:09
Speaker 13: to Amnesty asking for a response, and they were getting
37:11
Speaker 13: replied to within twenty four hours, So this is obviously
37:14
Speaker 13: my message being escalated up the chain of command. And
37:18
Speaker 13: I finally received the message from this woman Kai Akram,
37:23
Speaker 13: who is the media and PR manager she's been acting
37:27
Speaker 13: up as head of media since January twenty twenty four.
37:29
Speaker 13: She's the main point of contact for Europe's human rights
37:32
Speaker 13: issues for the UK press, and she sent me this message,
37:36
Speaker 13: which i'll read out in its entirety. I think it's
37:38
Speaker 13: important to get the whole spring across, so dear Ben,
37:41
Speaker 13: thank you for contacting us. We issued the following statement.
37:44
Speaker 13: On the eighth of August. Members and supporters of Amnesty
37:47
Speaker 13: UK attended yesterday's massive anti racism rally in Walthamstone. The
37:52
Speaker 13: activist in the video has made clear to us that
37:54
Speaker 13: they were distracted and hadn't heard the speaker's comments when
37:56
Speaker 13: they approorded generally with the crowd. The speaker with the
37:59
Speaker 13: event is not affiliated with Amnesty and we strongly oppose
38:03
Speaker 13: violence and any kind of hateful speech. So that's the
38:07
Speaker 13: boilerplate that was sent out at the time on their website.
38:11
Speaker 13: I didn't see that on any of their main social
38:14
Speaker 13: media feeds, whether it's Twitter or LinkedIn or any of
38:18
Speaker 13: the other places where Amnesty UK publishes information. I didn't
38:23
Speaker 13: see that communication. They've just been sending it out on emails.
38:26
Speaker 13: That's really important. Distribution is absolutely critical here and let's continue.
38:31
Speaker 13: Going back to the letter here, we can see that
38:34
Speaker 13: in addition to the boilerplate response, they've added in a
38:38
Speaker 13: few extra items. So the woman in the video is
38:41
Speaker 13: Alrika Schmidt, so that's been confirmed. Who is a volunteer activist.
38:44
Speaker 13: She's not a member of Amnesty staff right well as
38:48
Speaker 13: I understand it. She is the UK country coordinator. So
38:51
Speaker 13: there's a bit of confusion here about what her role
38:54
Speaker 13: is and whether she has a formal position inside the organization.
38:58
Speaker 13: Sounds like she does work with them, she's not being
39:00
Speaker 13: paid by them, so maybe there's a bit of a
39:02
Speaker 13: gray area there. She goes on to say al Rika
39:05
Speaker 13: was subject to threats following the release of the video
39:08
Speaker 13: which are of serious concern. You can find more information here.
39:11
Speaker 13: I agree they are of serious concern. She shouldn't be
39:13
Speaker 13: being threatened. Nobody should be being threatened as the point
39:16
Speaker 13: of this, and we did report on that actually in
39:19
Speaker 13: a subsequent braw cross. And she then goes on to
39:21
Speaker 13: say amnister UK did not play a role in organizing
39:24
Speaker 13: the rally. And then we have this statement at the
39:26
Speaker 13: end saying we strongly oppose any kind of hateful speech,
39:32
Speaker 13: including the statements made by Ricky Jones on the seventh
39:35
Speaker 13: of August, which feels like a success to me. Actually,
39:39
Speaker 13: it feels like a step in the right direction anyway,
39:41
Speaker 13: because they haven't actually formerly distanced themselves at any point
39:47
Speaker 13: up to now from the statements made by Ricky Jones,
39:50
Speaker 13: and I think it's very.
39:51
Speaker 3: Important that they do that.
39:53
Speaker 13: But I don't think that this is anywhere near enough,
39:56
Speaker 13: to be quite honest with you, I think the first
39:58
Speaker 13: issue that I have is that this has taken a
40:01
Speaker 13: month to come to me, for a start, and we're
40:04
Speaker 13: dealing with national security issues, let's be honest here, so
40:08
Speaker 13: that's not a quick enough turnaround time. It also hasn't
40:11
Speaker 13: come from the top, right, and Sasha Deshmerk knows where
40:15
Speaker 13: I live, right, and I connected on LinkedIn, and last
40:19
Speaker 13: week he actually viewed my profile on LinkedIn. It allows
40:23
Speaker 13: you to see that, so I know that he is
40:25
Speaker 13: engaged with the issue, and yet he's decided not to
40:27
Speaker 13: send the message himself. He sent it via his media
40:30
Speaker 13: communications team. I don't think that's good enough. As I
40:33
Speaker 13: said in my original letter to you, Sasha, if Amnesty
40:36
Speaker 13: are to maintain any level of credibility on this crucial
40:39
Speaker 13: list of human rights. I think that you need to
40:42
Speaker 13: make a firm public statement and we need action as
40:45
Speaker 13: soon as possible from yourself and the organization, and not
40:48
Speaker 13: just in my inbox or on a PDF on a
40:52
Speaker 13: website somewhere where journalists can go and get it if
40:54
Speaker 13: they want to. This needs to come from your main
40:57
Speaker 13: communication channels. It needs to be weaved throughout your entire
41:02
Speaker 13: communication strategy, because unfortunately for you, you're sitting right at
41:06
Speaker 13: the heart of very dangerous potential conflagration of ideologies and
41:12
Speaker 13: rhetoric that I believe presents a serious danger to national
41:18
Speaker 13: security into the British people.
41:21
Speaker 1: Ben thank you very much for that. We'll be fascinating
41:24
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43:29
Speaker 14: And you can see the narrative, you know, changing a
43:32
Speaker 14: little bit. You know, when they started talking about the
43:35
Speaker 14: vaccine injured. Now you start going, well, are they trying
43:38
Speaker 14: to use the vaccination to create chaos again, to make
43:42
Speaker 14: people panic, to blame you know, a political candidate, you know,
43:47
Speaker 14: I mean, you could see the narrative. This is all
43:50
Speaker 14: this whole pandemic, this whole all this about viruses and everything.
43:57
Speaker 14: You know, once you put healthcare in the limelight and
44:01
Speaker 14: it becomes about the price of a stock, then you've
44:06
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44:07
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Speaker 1: one of the small parties that we are supporting. Now
45:15
Speaker 1: back to the subject of Ukraine, and of course one
45:19
Speaker 1: of the things that Ukraine is doing at the moment
45:21
Speaker 1: is sucking up huge sums of public money from the
45:25
Speaker 1: UK and other countries around the world. So this is
45:28
Speaker 1: gov dot UK talking about the Defense Secretary welcoming the
45:32
Speaker 1: Ukrainian counterpart to UK and confirms a billion pound milestone
45:37
Speaker 1: in the UK administered fund. But if we have a
45:40
Speaker 1: look in the text that goes with this article, we
45:43
Speaker 1: see that UK is now basically saying that there'll be
45:47
Speaker 1: three billion pounds of ukaid for Ukraine per year for
45:53
Speaker 1: as long as it takes. This is the real agenda
45:56
Speaker 1: of Stormer's state. It's keeping the war going. But we
46:01
Speaker 1: get some idea of the sheer destruction by having a
46:05
Speaker 1: look at the World Bank financing. Now, this document is
46:09
Speaker 1: called public Expenditures for an Administrative Capacity Endurance, and that
46:16
Speaker 1: spells out peace an irony here that basically loaning money
46:21
Speaker 1: at interest, so that Ukraine is ultimately going to be
46:24
Speaker 1: drowning in debt. Never mind the dead bodies. This is
46:28
Speaker 1: the good works of the World Bank, apparently. But in
46:32
Speaker 1: this document we quickly start to understand how disastrous the
46:36
Speaker 1: state is in Ukraine. And basically it becomes apparent that
46:42
Speaker 1: without humanitarians, without support from the World Bank and others,
46:47
Speaker 1: the war wouldn't keep running. But the World Bank describes
46:50
Speaker 1: its help as humanitarians support. But we've already shown in
46:54
Speaker 1: this news edition that ultimately the West wants to keep
46:58
Speaker 1: the war going for experiment mental means to learn more
47:02
Speaker 1: about the battlefield. I've got another paragraph here talking about
47:07
Speaker 1: the overwhelming scale of the problem for the Ukrainian government,
47:12
Speaker 1: and it says that Ukraine's financing needs reach thirty five
47:15
Speaker 1: point one percent of GDP in twenty twenty two. It
47:19
Speaker 1: is far worse now, equivalent to fifty three point three
47:24
Speaker 1: billion US dollars. And in this section here it actually
47:29
Speaker 1: talks about what the money is being used for that
47:32
Speaker 1: the World Bank is providing government employees salary, school employees salaries,
47:38
Speaker 1: tertiary education salaries, pensions, social assistant payments, IDP payments, child
47:44
Speaker 1: and family benefits, first responders salaries. So this is what
47:49
Speaker 1: public money from the West is being used for. But
47:53
Speaker 1: of course nobody wants to stop the war which is
47:55
Speaker 1: causing the problem in the first place. And if we
47:58
Speaker 1: go on to key risks, the only thing we need
48:01
Speaker 1: to say is that the World Bank realizes that the
48:04
Speaker 1: whole Ukrainian debarkle is so risky that it defines each
48:08
Speaker 1: risk as either high or substantial. Ben At this point,
48:14
Speaker 1: let's bring you in because you've got information on Ukraine here.
48:18
Speaker 1: But this war truly appalling.
48:23
Speaker 13: Indeed it is, and something is happening in Ukraine. It's amazing,
48:29
Speaker 13: Brian says from time to time regular views. What we'll
48:32
Speaker 13: have heard Brian say that it's amazing the the coincidences
48:40
Speaker 13: that pop up because we don't organize and coordinate ourselves
48:44
Speaker 13: ahead of the news. We just come through with the
48:46
Speaker 13: stuff that we think is interesting on any particular given day.
48:48
Speaker 13: And I was talking about and going to talk about
48:52
Speaker 13: the idea of Ukraine as a laboratory, but not for
48:55
Speaker 13: destruction the war side of it, although it is certainly that,
48:59
Speaker 13: but more for construction and actually what they're going to
49:01
Speaker 13: build in order to replace what they've destroyed. And these
49:05
Speaker 13: two things go hand in hand, and the same people
49:07
Speaker 13: are coordinating them, and the same people are making money
49:10
Speaker 13: out of them actually at the back end, as we'll
49:11
Speaker 13: get into, and I'm just going to start off by
49:15
Speaker 13: Starmer and his trip to DC last week to go
49:19
Speaker 13: and seek permission to use long range missiles in direct
49:23
Speaker 13: attacks against the Russians. Incredibly, that was refused. I think
49:29
Speaker 13: everyone was caught by surprise with this that Biden said
49:32
Speaker 13: that he didn't want to give us permission to use
49:34
Speaker 13: our missiles, and that tells you something about the state
49:36
Speaker 13: of US and UK relationships. And actually Biden did go rogue,
49:40
Speaker 13: not just there, he also went rogue elsewhere. So I
49:43
Speaker 13: think he's probably on a bit of a bustman holiday
49:45
Speaker 13: or whatever you want.
49:45
Speaker 3: To call it.
49:46
Speaker 13: He's not taking things very seriously at the moment, but
49:51
Speaker 13: he's still certainly the front and center in the way
49:53
Speaker 13: that this stuff is playing out today, and he's got
49:55
Speaker 13: a deep heritage with Ukraine.
49:57
Speaker 3: As I've come on to in a moment.
49:59
Speaker 13: Let's just back to this photo Starma on his trip
50:02
Speaker 13: to DC, And actually I'm less interested in Starma right
50:06
Speaker 13: now and more in this.
50:07
Speaker 3: Woman in the background we can see here.
50:09
Speaker 13: Who is Karen Pierce dcmg UK, Ambassador to the United States. Now,
50:15
Speaker 13: we sometimes hear this term deep state, people behind the scenes,
50:19
Speaker 13: calling the shots who work across administrations, who you don't
50:23
Speaker 13: vote for and you can't get rid of. Well, Karen
50:25
Speaker 13: Pierce certainly falls into that category. For my money, We've
50:29
Speaker 13: got a couple of clips here that I'm just going
50:31
Speaker 13: to play from Karen Pierce speaking at Chatham House at
50:35
Speaker 13: the end of last year about American power.
50:40
Speaker 15: It's overwhelmingly in our interests that America remains the leader
50:46
Speaker 15: on the world stage. That's not to deny China her place.
50:50
Speaker 15: It's not to say we have to have a unipolar world.
50:53
Speaker 15: But we have all benefited enormously from American leadership. And
50:57
Speaker 15: whoever wins in twenty twenty four or I think the
51:01
Speaker 15: one thing we should all be doing is urging no
51:04
Speaker 15: retreat in that leadership.
51:09
Speaker 13: We've all benefited from American leadership. It's an interesting turn
51:13
Speaker 13: of phrase, and I don't think that she means from
51:16
Speaker 13: Biden or Obama necessarily, but actually from organizations like this, right,
51:22
Speaker 13: I mean, this is the American Empire. She was talking
51:25
Speaker 13: at Chatham House there, which is one of a number
51:28
Speaker 13: of secretive groups that sit above national governments, that pull
51:32
Speaker 13: the shots, pull the strings.
51:33
Speaker 3: In this instance, here we can see the.
51:35
Speaker 13: Builderberg meetings where David Lammy attended last year, probably getting
51:39
Speaker 13: his marching orders to come out and promote further conflict
51:43
Speaker 13: in Ukraine as we saw earlier in the show, but
51:45
Speaker 13: also the Council and Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission where
51:49
Speaker 13: Kirs Starmer is a member. And how does Karen Pierce
51:53
Speaker 13: believe that this American empire should use its power. Let's
51:58
Speaker 13: go back to the clip from Chathamhouse.
52:01
Speaker 15: America could use that power even more to champion open societies.
52:08
Speaker 15: There is a constituency there among the silent majority of
52:12
Speaker 15: the middle ground so called middle ground countries. We don't
52:17
Speaker 15: I think, do enough to address their concerns about how
52:21
Speaker 15: they manage things like AI and a multi sector public
52:28
Speaker 15: private civil society approach, and we could do more to
52:31
Speaker 15: help them with that.
52:36
Speaker 13: So a multi sector public private civil society approach is
52:41
Speaker 13: what's required We've talked about public private quite a bit
52:44
Speaker 13: as the technical definition of fascism, but she's added in
52:48
Speaker 13: civil society there, and that essentially means large philanthropic groups
52:53
Speaker 13: like the Open Societies Foundation, which is a term that
52:56
Speaker 13: she used at the start of that clip, which is
52:59
Speaker 13: an organization run by George Soros which promotes open societies
53:04
Speaker 13: and the radical transformation of the West, as we've been
53:08
Speaker 13: talking about, and a lot of that centers on Ukraine
53:11
Speaker 13: because the Open Society's Foundation, at its core is built
53:15
Speaker 13: on this organization, the International Renaissance Foundation, which George Soros
53:20
Speaker 13: founded in Ukraine in nineteen ninety as he was going
53:23
Speaker 13: around picking up the pieces of the former Soviet Empire
53:27
Speaker 13: in order to build what he.
53:29
Speaker 3: Calls himself the Soros Empire.
53:31
Speaker 13: And there was one person in particular who was very
53:34
Speaker 13: involved in that, and that is Biden. According to Soros himself,
53:38
Speaker 13: Biden is absolutely front and center in what has been
53:41
Speaker 13: happening in Ukraine and what is happening in Ukraine when
53:44
Speaker 13: we talked about the war, but there's also a reconstruction
53:48
Speaker 13: happening and is extraordinarily profound. We can see here Stephen Jensen,
53:53
Speaker 13: the country director for Ukraine at the Tony Blair Institute
53:56
Speaker 13: for Global James describing this as the most important gear
54:00
Speaker 13: political event in the world since the end of the
54:02
Speaker 13: Cold War. It's not talking about the conflict. He's talking
54:05
Speaker 13: about the reconstruction. He's talking about building what the Black
54:10
Speaker 13: Rock CEO Larry Finkers described as a new world order.
54:14
Speaker 13: This is language that's coming from the people running the system.
54:18
Speaker 13: What does that look like. Well, a lot of it's
54:20
Speaker 13: about digitization. So we can see here Mikailo Federoff, who
54:24
Speaker 13: is the Minister for Digital Transformation at Ukraine, saying that
54:28
Speaker 13: the Ukraine twenty thirty will be the freest and most
54:31
Speaker 13: digital country in the world, without bureaucracy, but with a
54:35
Speaker 13: strong tech industry, cash less and paperless. This is the
54:39
Speaker 13: future world that we are building. And let's watch short
54:44
Speaker 13: video describing that world in a bit more detail.
54:57
Speaker 6: Let's look eight years ahead twenty thirty. The history of
55:03
Speaker 6: the new Ukraine is studied all over the globe. Why
55:06
Speaker 6: Because Ukraine became the most digital and convenient country in
55:10
Speaker 6: the world. Scripts have replaced bureaucrats. Five hundred thousand former
55:14
Speaker 6: public servants are successfully integrated in the new economy. No
55:18
Speaker 6: more red tape, but paperless. No more banknotes but cashless. Yes,
55:23
Speaker 6: we became the first country to abandon paper money. Ukraine
55:27
Speaker 6: now has the best tech system for the IT industry
55:30
Speaker 6: and the most affordable eresidency. Thanks to Ukrainian engineers and programmers,
55:35
Speaker 6: the R and D centers of the world's top technology
55:37
Speaker 6: companies operate successfully, and Ukraine ranks first in the world
55:41
Speaker 6: by the number of startups per capita. Ukrainian courts are
55:44
Speaker 6: guided by artificial intelligence and all notarial acts take place online.
55:49
Speaker 6: Ukrainian customs is fully automatic and the fastest in the world.
55:53
Speaker 6: Customs clearance and car registration can now be done in
55:56
Speaker 6: three clicks from your smartphone. Because of war and internal
55:59
Speaker 6: micro we have built the most flexible in modern digital education.
56:04
Speaker 6: Brave military and civilians get quality treatment with modern remote
56:08
Speaker 6: monitoring and eHealth systems. Ukraine also has the most effective
56:12
Speaker 6: cyber defense in the world. After the horrors of twenty
56:15
Speaker 6: twenty two, Ukraine focused on security systems. Now every production
56:19
Speaker 6: facility has its air defense system and this sleep of
56:22
Speaker 6: Ukrainians is protected by an ultra modern iron dome. The
56:26
Speaker 6: Ukrainian government is digital more like an IT company in
56:30
Speaker 6: terms of the efficiency of implementing decisions, and one can
56:33
Speaker 6: register a land plot, start construction, open a business, or
56:37
Speaker 6: get a license and register a car or real estate
56:40
Speaker 6: from a smartphone automatically in one click. Ukraine is the
56:44
Speaker 6: freest and digital. This is all because international partners and
56:47
Speaker 6: the world's leading technology companies supported the Digital for Freedom
56:51
Speaker 6: initiative and united to help Ukraine recover through digitalization, building
56:56
Speaker 6: a new Ukraine together, free and the fastest, brave and digital.
57:05
Speaker 13: So a total digital transformation of the country in order
57:09
Speaker 13: to replace the country that's been destroyed by the conflict.
57:13
Speaker 13: So many different components of that film that you could
57:15
Speaker 13: talk about. The ones that really jumped out at me, though,
57:17
Speaker 13: is that artificial intelligence replacing the court system. Five hundred
57:21
Speaker 13: thousand former civil servants are going to be integrated into
57:24
Speaker 13: this new economy. Somehow not particularly clear what that's going
57:28
Speaker 13: to look like. We're going to get rid of paper money.
57:30
Speaker 13: AI is going to be across education. This is a
57:33
Speaker 13: really fundamental transformation that ticks all the boxes for the
57:40
Speaker 13: global agenda that we've been hearing from the World Economic
57:43
Speaker 13: Forum and other places like that over the past few years,
57:45
Speaker 13: and that ultimately our own leaders are envisaging for the
57:48
Speaker 13: future of the UK and other countries around the world.
57:51
Speaker 3: And who's building it, Well.
57:53
Speaker 13: There's fetter Of and by the way, feeder Of is
57:56
Speaker 13: really Zilenski's number two. Zilenski we hear about is obviously
58:00
Speaker 13: the president. He's out there banging the drum for the
58:02
Speaker 13: war and raising funds for the conflict. That the rebuild
58:06
Speaker 13: is being led by this guy. He's dealing with the UN,
58:09
Speaker 13: he's dealing with the World Economic Forum. They actually announced
58:12
Speaker 13: the first Global GOV Tech Technology Center, which they're building
58:16
Speaker 13: together in the Ukraine's first one outside of Germany.
58:19
Speaker 3: Also heavily involved in this.
58:21
Speaker 13: We also, as this is obviously a public private partnership,
58:24
Speaker 13: got the big tech giants like Google in their Amazon
58:28
Speaker 13: Web Services helping.
58:30
Speaker 3: With the rebuild. With the rebuild, and.
58:32
Speaker 13: Also organizations like Yale, who we heard about earlier. Another coincidence,
58:36
Speaker 13: and I'm sure that Federov was going to be talking
58:38
Speaker 13: to this gentleman about the Great Transition. So a lot
58:42
Speaker 13: going on in Ukraine, and as I say, it is
58:46
Speaker 13: very much a laboratory where they are experimenting, as Brian
58:49
Speaker 13: said earlier, with tools for destruction, but also at the
58:53
Speaker 13: same time tools for reconstruction and rebuilding a new system. Now,
58:58
Speaker 13: just as a final point, I want to draw everyone's
59:01
Speaker 13: attention to this tweet which came from Sir Efrin Meyers,
59:06
Speaker 13: the Chief Rabbi of the uk sending his condolences to
59:11
Speaker 13: the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine who lost a son in
59:13
Speaker 13: the conflict. And there's an interesting phrase at the end
59:18
Speaker 13: which I think people should be aware of and maybe
59:21
Speaker 13: we could ask some questions about here. So he goes
59:24
Speaker 13: on to say, my heart goes out to Chief Rabbi
59:26
Speaker 13: Moshiasman Revertsen Channa and their family on the tragic loss
59:30
Speaker 13: of Mattidjahu, who was killed in combat as he defended Ukraine.
59:34
Speaker 13: Our thoughts are with Mattichahu's wife and their young daughter.
59:38
Speaker 13: May his memory be a source of blessing to them,
59:40
Speaker 13: and may they be comforted among all.
59:43
Speaker 3: The mourners of Zion.
59:45
Speaker 13: Now, what I was wondering is does that make Ukraine
59:51
Speaker 13: art of Zionist project.
59:54
Speaker 1: That's a really good question, Ben, and there's lots to
59:57
Speaker 1: be discussed around that. I think time prevents us from
1:00:01
Speaker 1: doing that in today's news, but we can certainly cover
1:00:04
Speaker 1: a bit more in UK column Extra in a few minutes.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: But before we close the news, Diane, let's bring you
1:00:11
Speaker 1: back and just very briefly, have we got an opportunity
1:00:16
Speaker 1: to criticize what's going on as a member of the
1:00:18
Speaker 1: public or indeed an academic, is their freedom of speech?
1:00:25
Speaker 5: Has said definitely not. We did have one of the
1:00:28
Speaker 5: few good things that the Tories did was they got
1:00:30
Speaker 5: through Higher Education Freedom of Speech to Act twenty twenty three,
1:00:34
Speaker 5: which were supposed to kind of prevent these kinds of
1:00:38
Speaker 5: things from happening, to allow us to speak out without
1:00:40
Speaker 5: having to worry about lawsuits or getting in trouble in
1:00:44
Speaker 5: some other way. And so this was officially supposed to
1:00:47
Speaker 5: come into effect on the first of August twenty twenty four.
1:00:51
Speaker 5: But I want to go back just to a quick
1:00:53
Speaker 5: video that happened with a debate in the Commons last week.
1:00:56
Speaker 5: There was a question raised to our Secretary of State
1:01:00
Speaker 5: to ask what assessment she has made of the adequacy
1:01:02
Speaker 5: of levels of academic freedom in a higher education. So
1:01:06
Speaker 5: this is just the end of the debate, just one
1:01:08
Speaker 5: question and her answer.
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Speaker 15: More detail.
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Speaker 7: Adam, Minister Gagara Mahindra, thank you, Mardain w speaker.
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Speaker 9: Can I welcome the Sexual State to her place. The
1:01:18
Speaker 9: Higher Education Freedom of Speech Act twenty twenty three would
1:01:21
Speaker 9: have ensured that universities in England have the tools they
1:01:24
Speaker 9: need to deal with interferes and threats to freedom of
1:01:27
Speaker 9: speech and academic freedom wherever they originate. Now the Act
1:01:32
Speaker 9: will no longer be implemented by this government. Will the
1:01:34
Speaker 9: Sexual State cloud for it to the House what her
1:01:37
Speaker 9: alternative plans are to protect academic freedom in the higher
1:01:40
Speaker 9: educational sector.
1:01:43
Speaker 16: The Honorable Gentleman will law that freedom of expression and
1:01:47
Speaker 16: academic freedom are incredibly important. There are duties that the
1:01:50
Speaker 16: Office for Students sets out. Many of these principles are
1:01:52
Speaker 16: already enshrined in the law, but I want to make
1:01:55
Speaker 16: sure that we get this right and I'm confident that
1:01:58
Speaker 16: the Honorable gentlemen would not want to be in a
1:02:00
Speaker 16: position where the Act might have opened up the potential
1:02:02
Speaker 16: for hate speech, including Holocaust denial, to be spread on campus,
1:02:06
Speaker 16: something that the previous minister in the last government was
1:02:09
Speaker 16: unable to rule out.
1:02:14
Speaker 5: So leading up to that part of the debate, as
1:02:16
Speaker 5: well as the previous debate, if you look at Hansard,
1:02:19
Speaker 5: we see that there is also questions around the relationship
1:02:23
Speaker 5: that has been raised. There's a Peaking University HSBC Business
1:02:27
Speaker 5: School located in Oxford, just outside of the city of Boxford.
1:02:31
Speaker 5: It's part of the campus and it's the first overseas
1:02:34
Speaker 5: campus of the UK's in the UK from Peaking University
1:02:38
Speaker 5: from China, and it states on their website, which you
1:02:40
Speaker 5: can see easily, that the core value of this university
1:02:45
Speaker 5: is of global vision and China insight. So there were
1:02:49
Speaker 5: questions raised before that part of the debate around you
1:02:53
Speaker 5: is this because we have authoritarian control over a university
1:02:57
Speaker 5: that is now located as part of its campus here
1:03:00
Speaker 5: in the UK. And she kind of diverted the question
1:03:03
Speaker 5: by going back to the possibility of Holocaust denial being
1:03:06
Speaker 5: a reason for hate speech, and that's why she canceled
1:03:09
Speaker 5: the implementation of the legislation. So several academics, including the
1:03:14
Speaker 5: Academics for Academic Freedom group which I'm a part of,
1:03:17
Speaker 5: as well as we now have the Students for Academic Freedom,
1:03:19
Speaker 5: which is great, we have several thousand of us now
1:03:22
Speaker 5: have signed this open letter to Bridget Phillips and pointing
1:03:26
Speaker 5: out that we were very upset, obviously to see that
1:03:29
Speaker 5: this has been canceled and that our report published earlier
1:03:33
Speaker 5: this year by the Academic Freedom Index, placed the UK
1:03:35
Speaker 5: sixty sixth in the Global League Table of academic Freedom,
1:03:39
Speaker 5: lower than Peru, Brikina, Fosso and Georgia and many other countries.
1:03:43
Speaker 5: So no, Brian, No, we don't have academic freedom here
1:03:46
Speaker 5: and we're not allowed to say anything about things that
1:03:48
Speaker 5: we don't necessarily agree with here in the Western culture
1:03:52
Speaker 5: any further.
1:03:54
Speaker 1: Okay, Joanne, thank you for that. Ben, Thank you also
1:03:57
Speaker 1: for your segments today. We're in very troubled times. Clearly
1:04:01
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