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- 0:00Welcome to Paws Between Us, your regular dose of positive
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- 0:06uplifting episode packed with the latest feel-good stories and research from
- 0:10the world of pets. So take a moment to tune out from all the negative
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- 0:18celebrating the joy pets bring to our lives and sharing the inspiring
- 0:21changes making their lives better too.
- 0:24So settle in for a short pause and let's spread some positivity together.
- 0:29Hey, Sasha. Hey, Nat. How's it going? Yeah,
- 0:33I'm all right. Thank you. How are you? Did you have a nice holiday?
- 0:36I did. Thank you. Yes. I'm just fresh back from a trip to
- 0:40Jersey. First time I've ever been to Jersey. And yeah,
- 0:44was very impressed. Beautiful island. Really,
- 0:48really dog-friendly. Didn't choose Jersey because it's so dog-friendly,
- 0:52but now I know it is, I'll definitely go back. Ooh,
- 0:56one for the listeners to look into then. Yeah. I mean, it's a very pretty
- 1:00island. Lots of wonderful beaches, lots of
- 1:03great food, really nice restaurants and cafes.
- 1:07And all of them, in fact, every single one that we went to,
- 1:11welcome dogs. Oh, wow. Inside and out.
- 1:15I know nothing about Jersey. Is there like a main city town?
- 1:19Yes. So there's the main, main part of Jersey, St. Helier.
- 1:23Oh yeah. Yeah. Which is where the ferry goes into
- 1:27that we travelled on. So we went from Portsmouth to St. Helier. And then And
- 1:30then that's kind of in the south of the island. And from then you've got
- 1:35around the island, many beaches, many little
- 1:39sort of towns. I say towns, they're probably villages actually,
- 1:42because Jersey's actually really, really small.
- 1:45You can drive from one side of the island to the other very
- 1:49quickly. I think it's only about 15
- 1:54miles wide. Ooh, okay.
- 1:57Wow. I mean, don't quote me on that, but they,
- 2:01you could easily get from the west of the island to the
- 2:04east of the island in about half an hour and from north to south.
- 2:08So, and so you saw a lot and a lot of the places were dog-friendly
- 2:13and there was lots of dog owners about. Yeah.
- 2:16What I really liked with the beaches was that dogs were
- 2:21allowed on them throughout the year. You have to keep a
- 2:25dog on a lead between, I think it's half 10
- 2:29in the morning and half 5. Okay.
- 2:32Where I've been to other beaches in England, there's often a restriction,
- 2:36so you can't allow dogs on the beach during the
- 2:40summer months at all. Right. So,
- 2:44you have like dog-friendly beaches, but that's
- 2:47only often a small part of the beach, whereas in Jersey,
- 2:50dogs are allowed all over the beach. So long as you just
- 2:54keep them on a, on a lead. Okay. Which I really,
- 2:57really like, like that. So we'd kind of get up on the morning,
- 3:01take Betty for a walk early. We could let her off the lead,
- 3:05had a little paddle in the sea. And actually the sand was really good for
- 3:09her to walk on. So it was quite, quite soft.
- 3:13So yeah. Yeah. It, it, you know, 'cause I think we've, we've been
- 3:16told to avoid walking on pavements 'cause she drags her feet. She just
- 3:21sort of scuffs them. Oh yeah. Sometimes they can like sort of bleed. So actually
- 3:24walking on sand And it's quite gentle on her paws,
- 3:27and that was really nice. So yeah, so she
- 3:32had a good holiday too. She did, she did. I mean, she's never
- 3:35been one for swimming, so I held her and we had
- 3:39a little, little swim in very shallow water. Yeah,
- 3:43a little doggy paddle. Yeah, a little doggy paddle.
- 3:46She met some doggy friends on the beach, which was really nice.
- 3:50Yeah, just, just a lovely chills holiday.
- 3:54So yeah. Yeah, I did.
- 3:58Thank you. Just a bit of a shocker being back
- 4:03to reality. And yeah, but I'll be
- 4:06taking my holiday in a couple of weeks, so I'll let you know how that
- 4:08goes. I was looking to explore, I don't know if I'd mentioned this, but a
- 4:12friend of mine told me about cat-friendly
- 4:17lodges on the border of Scotland. I think, I don't know
- 4:20if it was quite on the border, whether it was just outside Edinburgh. I'm not
- 4:22sure. But, um, what I was astounded by, I wouldn't take my
- 4:26cats because my cats don't travel, but people do travel with cats. These lodges have
- 4:30got like cat climbers in them, cat scratching posts,
- 4:34different, um, cat, uh, bed, like heights of beds
- 4:38and things so they can kind of climb up and sleep up high. And then
- 4:41you don't normally hear about cat-friendly places like that. Hear about dog-friendly places
- 4:45all the time, but I was intrigued by that. But we were going to go
- 4:48to Scotland, but we don't got chance. We haven't got time now. So we're just
- 4:51making it to Northumberland. That's as far as we'll get.
- 4:54The cats are being looked after by my niece, so, uh, they're in, they're in
- 4:58good hands because she's doing an animal studies course. So,
- 5:01uh, in the perfect safe pair of hands, the best
- 5:05it could be. Yeah, that's the perfect setup. Are they staying at yours
- 5:09and she's popping around, or are they going to stay with her? Yeah, no,
- 5:12no, she's— they're gonna stay here. She's gonna come in. The only thing I'm worried
- 5:15about is her using all of the, like, the oven, the microwave. The cats
- 5:19I've got no concern about. I'm more worried about all the gadgets and technology.
- 5:23But then again, she's young, so I'm sure she'll work it out. She'll probably be
- 5:25better at it than me. Yeah, probably. Or just be ordering takeaway.
- 5:30Sounds like your house is really high-tech then, if you've got all these different
- 5:33gadgets and controls and buttons to press. It's because,
- 5:37because like, I think my dad was here once and I had to leave him
- 5:39like a book, a manual, because it's all touch— lots
- 5:44of it's touchscreen stuff, and it's like, it's gonna be confusing,
- 5:47but I'm underestimating a 21-year-old really badly
- 5:51here because she will be fine with it. I'm absolutely certain. I don't know why
- 5:54I'm worrying. You know, when you go away, you worry about everything, don't you?
- 5:57Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you do. You do. But I'm sure everything,
- 6:02yeah, I'm sure everything is in safe hands. So,
- 6:05but it's good to have the, the Scotland place on the sort
- 6:10of bucket list or the place to visit in the future. Not heard
- 6:14of cat-friendly accommodation before either. I've always heard of dog-friendly. But never
- 6:18cat. Exactly. I'll have to share the link. I have got it. Maybe I'll stick
- 6:23it in the comments so people can have a look at it themselves.
- 6:26Check it out. It'll be there. Yeah. So what news
- 6:29have we got, Sasha? What's caught your eye this week? So there is,
- 6:34what's caught my eye this week is actually what I've just been talking
- 6:37about, because there has been a recent survey by Accor of
- 6:41British pet owners who found that 56% of
- 6:46dog owners plan their trips around their pets, while an impressive
- 6:4968% would opt not to travel if their dog
- 6:53couldn't come along. Now there's no stats here for cats,
- 6:56but it is based on dog-friendly cities in
- 7:00the UK. And interestingly,
- 7:03Liverpool gets the top spot in terms of being
- 7:07very dog-friendly. So big paws up to Liverpool
- 7:11for welcoming our canine friends.
- 7:15It received the top score for basically having
- 7:18lots of dog-friendly eateries, lots of dog-friendly Many
- 7:23venues in Liverpool make four-legged visitors very welcome, which means it's really
- 7:27easy to explore the city. And yeah, just lots
- 7:31of dog-friendly cafes and pubs. And I haven't been to Liverpool in a long,
- 7:34long time actually. So I'm now really intrigued
- 7:38to see just how dog-friendly it is.
- 7:41And second in the list is Brighton.
- 7:44Interestingly, Brighton has lots of beaches,
- 7:48but there are seasonal restrictions. So that was the thing I was just talking about
- 7:52in Jersey, there are no seasonal restrictions. Restrictions, but in Brighton there still is.
- 7:56But there's lots of parks, lots of vast open spaces and woodland
- 8:00walks, and lots of coffee shops that are welcoming
- 8:04of dogs, which is great to hear. And I once went to
- 8:08Brighton, not that, well, I say not that long ago, it's when we first got
- 8:11Betty, so it probably was a long time ago. And stayed at a really nice
- 8:15hotel and we hadn't had Betty that long and she did pee on the bed.
- 8:18That was just mortified. Oops. You're like, whoops.
- 8:22Don't think we got charged for that, but we were a bit worried that
- 8:25we were gonna get slapped with a bit of a bill for a pee stain
- 8:29on the duvet. Sometimes in these dog-friendly places,
- 8:32you're not actually allowed to have your dog on the bed.
- 8:35Betty, as you know, is very attached. Yeah. So we'll forget about
- 8:39that one. And then in 3rd spot is Glasgow.
- 8:44Hmm. So yeah, 3 top dog-friendly places in
- 8:48the UK to visit this summer. If you haven't already been away,
- 8:52and you're thinking of somewhere to go in the next few weeks with your dog,
- 8:55definitely check those out. But yeah, big paws up to Liverpool for
- 8:59being super dog-friendly. It's really good to hear.
- 9:02I am surprised by that because, well, I never thought Liverpool
- 9:07would be particularly dog-friendly over anywhere else. And interestingly enough,
- 9:10not like mentioned London, but maybe London's so big
- 9:14with so many suburbs, it's hard to sort of categorise. I don't know.
- 9:17Did London come in the list at all? Yeah. Do you know what?
- 9:20It didn't. Interesting. No, it didn't.
- 9:24I don't know why. Maybe it was excluded, but lots of
- 9:28cities in the list, but not, not London. I'm not sure our
- 9:32listeners, like, know of any other smaller towns than big
- 9:36cities, because actually, I went to Cirencester maybe
- 9:402 or 3 years ago, 2 years I think it was, and I found that
- 9:43really dog-friendly. There were Dogs everywhere. We were sat
- 9:47in a cafe just watching hundreds of dogs walk past with their owners
- 9:51over like a period of an hour. It was so busy, lots of different
- 9:55sizes and shapes and breeds. It was really lovely to see. And I think
- 9:59we went into one of the shops and someone brought their husky in and I
- 10:01was like, oh, even the shops like them in. So, I was quite surprised
- 10:05by that. So, maybe someone else has been somewhere similar that would, that could recommend
- 10:09other places. Yeah, indeed. I mean, that's the thing. This survey
- 10:14focused on the top 15 cities, and like you say, there are lots of smaller
- 10:18towns and places, especially on the coast, that are
- 10:22probably very dog-friendly. So, and London definitely is dog-friendly,
- 10:26'cause I've had lots of experience. Yeah.
- 10:30Yeah. Goes without saying. So maybe they've excluded London,
- 10:33but yeah, really good to see that there's a sort of
- 10:37a shift. And just looking at, you know, if you were actually going out for
- 10:42dinner somewhere with your dog in one of these cities that actually Edinburgh scored
- 10:47the highest for dog-friendly eateries overall.
- 10:50Okay. It'd be Liverpool when you think about it, across the different categories of
- 10:53dog friendliness comes out the highest. But yeah,
- 10:56Edinburgh is, yeah, also very friendly for the food side
- 11:00of things. So yeah, what, what's caught your eye now this week? Um,
- 11:04a couple of little things. So this is a follow-up from the
- 11:08Humanimal episode we had last week where they were talking about how we can
- 11:12do better for both animal and human health.
- 11:15And the UK government has announced
- 11:19something. It's called a Preclinical Translational Models
- 11:23Hub, and they are committing to replacing animals
- 11:27in science, which will be a
- 11:31real encouragement for a lot of people. The hub will bring together
- 11:35data, AI, cell engineering,
- 11:38and disease modeling techniques and all the kind of new things that they're developing so
- 11:42that they can develop medicines faster and without harming any animals. And so humanimal,
- 11:46we're talking about using animal patients.
- 11:50And so those who are already poorly or have a condition and doing clinical trials
- 11:54with them, this will be kind of similar. We're not harming any animals in developing
- 11:58medicines. We're either using patient animals or we can use
- 12:02all this cell engineering and AI and data stuff that we've
- 12:05already got to help completely stop any of that.
- 12:10So yeah, so that's something that's kind of starting. The RSPCA
- 12:14are kind of obviously massive advocates in support of this. I saw this on one
- 12:17of their posts this morning. So they're looking forward to seeing like how this
- 12:21develops and the government will be doing some monitoring of the successes.
- 12:24So I think RSPCA are probably the ones to watch to see how they
- 12:29see that that is developing or not developing well. So yeah,
- 12:32but it's good news. It's great news. I think a lot of people will be
- 12:36relieved to hear that, and I think there's I don't know a lot about it,
- 12:38to be honest, and I don't like to get too much into it because it
- 12:41is a very upsetting subject and quite a, quite a
- 12:45passionate one for a lot of people. But I think all we can say is
- 12:49it sounds like people are now moving in the right direction.
- 12:53So yeah, it does. Yeah. I think that's a good way
- 12:57to kind of sort of round that bit of news up, which is it's all
- 13:01moving forward in the right way for all the right reasons.
- 13:04So. Yeah. Yeah. Watch this space on how it progresses.
- 13:08Yeah. And the other one was just about, it's a really nice
- 13:12story. The other one's a nice story, but this is quite a sweet little story.
- 13:15It's about how, so scientists have worked out like what's
- 13:19going on inside a dog's brain when it sees a human or even a stranger.
- 13:23And so research got 14 dogs who were encouraged
- 13:27to sit very still while in a brain scanner. And they were shown pictures of
- 13:31people's faces and the photos were like of happy smiling people.
- 13:34And they saw that when the dogs saw them, the areas of brain
- 13:38that is associated with reward lit up. So showing that like that
- 13:43activity was linked to like good things. Like when they get,
- 13:46when they get a tasty bit of food or when they get praise. So it's
- 13:50like, in terms of our brains, it's like the hit or high that's triggered when
- 13:53we win a game or we do something amazing, or we receive a positive comment.
- 13:56The same thing lights up in our head. And so they were able to kind
- 14:00of make the assumption that the same things are lighting up in the dog's head
- 14:02when they see a smiling, happy person. So, so sweet. I mean,
- 14:06this is even for like strangers. Dogs still see this like positive
- 14:09value in like, someone's smiling at me. It's positive. I feel good.
- 14:13This is making me feel great. It's saying like,
- 14:16um, they, dogs can recognise that as a
- 14:20positive thing and that they get enjoyment from it. What they did
- 14:24further in the study was to look at other human emotions, anger,
- 14:27fear, and sadness. But the part
- 14:31of the brain that lit up only responded to happy faces. And it's just lovely
- 14:35to sort of like, see that dogs are really good at understanding emotions
- 14:38in humans. They've been developed over years and years
- 14:42of companionship, working with us.
- 14:45And they think that because of all of that history of just being person's
- 14:50best friend, that it's sort of changed and developed the dog's brain circuitry.
- 14:54And they've sort of been able to, through domestication,
- 14:58been able to kind of develop social abilities to understand and cooperate with
- 15:02us as humans. This study was done by someone called, well, it's actually a couple
- 15:06who have their own dogs and their own dogs are involved in the study,
- 15:08which is really, really sweet. Laura Coya, I hope I say the name right,
- 15:12and her husband Raul Hernandez Perez.
- 15:16They did the study and the full findings are published in iScience
- 15:21and we'll put the link in the bio if everybody wants to see and read
- 15:24more about that. So it's basically saying we can reward our dogs with treats,
- 15:27but you can also reward them with happiness. So just a smile, even at
- 15:30the random dogs, can make a day for the doggy. How lovely is that?
- 15:34Oh, that's so sweet. So it's like kindness costs nothing.
- 15:37You can just smile and your dog will feel really,
- 15:42really good. I love that. Oh yeah, I love that.
- 15:45Like you say, you don't need to do anything. We don't need to, you know,
- 15:48we could just make a dog's day better by being kind and smiling. Yes.
- 15:51Yeah. Oh, when I see Betty tonight, I'm gonna give her big
- 15:56smile and a big hug. I mean, I always smile when I see
- 16:00dogs, when they're approaching me on the street. I always give them a little smile
- 16:04and they always look at me and I sort of, they do respond. Yeah.
- 16:07And the tails start going, don't they? I smile at a dog from miles away
- 16:10and the tail's a little wagging when you go, hey baby, hello. And they,
- 16:14yeah, like we, our eyes lock and I smile and
- 16:18yeah. I wonder if they then associate that with thinking that they're
- 16:22gonna get something as well. I don't know, I can't remember. I'll have to have
- 16:26a little bit more into it, but I'm pretty, yeah, that does ring a bell.
- 16:29There may be something that it's been sort of developed that there is a treat
- 16:31coming or some kind of like other reward,
- 16:35but the smile's enough to light up that little area in their brain.
- 16:38Yeah. And they're still getting that hit, which is cute. Yeah. And you know,
- 16:42good for them for staying still in the study, 'cause it can't be easy if
- 16:45you're going through a scanner as a dog to stay really,
- 16:48really still. I don't know how they did it, to be honest. It's hard
- 16:52for a human. I like the way they, their own dogs got involved.
- 16:56Yeah. They get involved in all of their studies. There are a couple who do
- 16:59quite a lot of canine studies apparently. So we'll have to keep an eye out
- 17:01for them, see what else they're doing. Ah, yeah, definitely. And I wonder if the
- 17:05same applies to cats or maybe not. Oh my God. Keeping a
- 17:08bloody cat still to even check their brain would be the worst
- 17:12thing ever. I hope so. I like to think when I smile at my cat,
- 17:16they get a little internal glow. I think so. You can
- 17:20read emotions on cats. I feel like as a cat owner, I can sense,
- 17:23I'm in tune with my cats and I think I can sense when they're happy
- 17:26or sad or a little bit grumpy. But maybe, I don't know,
- 17:30maybe that's just me. And just, is purring associated with happiness
- 17:33in cats? It is, but it also can be a
- 17:37stress. Okay. This is where cats,
- 17:40yeah. Like stress attacks.
- 17:44That's what I quite like about them though, to be fair. Yeah, no, they can
- 17:48do it if they're stressed. So like, I've taken mine to the vet before and
- 17:50they've started purring and thinking they like the vet, but it can be a self-soothing
- 17:54thing. Not always, not always. It's like the same as like with dogs,
- 17:59you get a waggy tail, you know, they're happy. Cats' tails are flipping confusing as
- 18:03well. Can someone work out cats, please? Yeah, please tell us. I mean,
- 18:06you're right, Betty's tail, when it drops down, you know she's not in
- 18:11a happy place. Although bless her now because of her myelopathy,
- 18:15her sort of tail hangs down a lot more anyway, and that's nothing to
- 18:19do with her sort of emotional state. It's just because of what
- 18:22she's dealing with. So, and it impacts her tail as well.
- 18:26But yeah, it's nice to see a happy wagging tail. Let's all go
- 18:29out there smiling. Yeah. Thank you so much. And, uh, we'll be
- 18:34back in touch soon because we'll have another episode after a
- 18:38short pause. So keep on listening, keep on following, give us a like,
- 18:41Tell us in the comments if you want us to cover any particular topic,
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- 18:49share that in the comments. That's always helpful for others as well. But yeah,
- 18:53get in touch with us. Yep. And happy holidays. If you haven't already
- 18:57taken a break this summer, then enjoy. And yeah, tell us about
- 19:01the dog-friendly or cat-friendly places that you've been to.
- 19:05See you next time. See you next time now. Bye!