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Canadian Geese not recommended for death by city administration · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to AM eight hundred CKLW. We can't live
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  Speaker 1: with the status quo, says one of our city councilors
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  Speaker 1: here in Windsor. And what is the status quo? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it has to do with our out of control goose population.
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  Speaker 1: Our foul feathered friends are causing problems not just in
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  Speaker 1: the downtown core, but actually all along our riverfront, which
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  Speaker 1: is why Ward six Councilor Joe an Geniac requested this
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  Speaker 1: past January for an administration report on how to keep
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  Speaker 1: the goose population in check. And for those of you concerned,
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  Speaker 1: administration is not saying that we should just go out
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  Speaker 1: and call all of the geese and kill them, although
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  Speaker 1: that has been attempted in other jurisdictions, most notably New
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  Speaker 1: York I believe ended up. Actually they investigated the feasibility
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  Speaker 1: of having a call of their geese and then serving
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  Speaker 1: the goose meat to their missions for homeless people. They didn't,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, go forward with that one. But here is
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  Speaker 1: recommending a multifaceted goose management approach that could involve habitat
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  Speaker 1: management that would see grass and pollinator prants, plants growing
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  Speaker 1: longer to keep them out, and then also hazing techniques
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  Speaker 1: such as the use of trained dogs, lights, lasers, or
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  Speaker 1: even pyrotechnics to make the geese uncomfortable in their habitat.
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  Speaker 1: So Ronaldo Agostino, Ward three, counselor, joins me right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess we're not going to be seeing a
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  Speaker 1: coll but we might be seeing what nightly fireworks displaces here.
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  Speaker 1: How is this going to work? Ronaldo?
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  Speaker 2: What have you been here about this?
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  Speaker 3: I'm very interested to see you at to really discuss
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  Speaker 3: some of the options coming to the meeting tomorrow, because
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, certainly, I'm not in any support of
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  Speaker 3: taking eggs away from you know, anything in this world,
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  Speaker 3: nor would I be interested in killing.
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  Speaker 2: Any live animal song.
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  Speaker 3: But there are certain options and I'm sure the experts
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  Speaker 3: have been spoken to, and I'm sure some of that
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  Speaker 3: conversations that I'm on the meeting tomorrow or whether it
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  Speaker 3: be you know, are we gonna have could we create
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  Speaker 3: some time of d Who's city where they can be
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  Speaker 3: are I'm curious to hear about the fireworks because certainly
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  Speaker 3: on the riverfront, I don't think you can have fireworks
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  Speaker 3: and lasers unless you get permits. And I just don't
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  Speaker 3: see how the sustainability in the cost of that would work,
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  Speaker 3: But there's got to be some options out there, because
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  Speaker 3: is it a problem yet? Is it on the top
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  Speaker 3: ten list of problems for me as a counselor. No,
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  Speaker 3: it's not. But let's see what the administration is brought
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  Speaker 3: back and let's see where we go from here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what administration has recommended as a three year pilot
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  Speaker 1: project that would cost four hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 1: And look, I mean four hundred and fifty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the city's budget, is not a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of money by any means, but it's still
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  Speaker 1: half a million dollars that we're talking about. And you've
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  Speaker 1: got a whole lot of other priorities that are quite
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  Speaker 1: frankly facing humans that are living in our city that
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  Speaker 1: aren't lease And so I just I wonder about the priorities.
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  Speaker 1: And of course I'm not suggesting that Counselor Geniac is
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  Speaker 1: prioritizing a group of geese over human beings. This was
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  Speaker 1: a process that started back in January. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: when people hear about how much people are in need,
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  Speaker 1: this doesn't seem like it's high on the priority list.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, when you look at it,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that the geese is the issue.
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  Speaker 2: I think the safety of the people because.
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  Speaker 3: Of the geese is the issue, especially when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to you know, possible incidents involving traffic or possible incidents
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  Speaker 3: involving airplanes for that matter.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we care about the geese as well.
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  Speaker 3: But I think this is an issue that you know,
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  Speaker 3: certainly people there is some concern about it, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I would I'm looking forward to the discussion certainly because
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  Speaker 3: I think it could it could result to some type
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  Speaker 3: of solution to help and I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: help the geese and it's certainly going to help the
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  Speaker 3: citizens of the city. I think the last thing anybody
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  Speaker 3: wants to see is, you know, a goose get hit
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  Speaker 3: by a car and or you know, something happened at
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  Speaker 3: our airport.
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  Speaker 2: Because the problem continues to get worse and worse and
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  Speaker 2: worse and worse.
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  Speaker 3: And I asked some questions about the statistics and the
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  Speaker 3: data and how that was accumulated, and how administration came
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  Speaker 3: to the idea of having this pilot project, which I'm
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  Speaker 3: always a fan of pilot projects. But let's see where
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  Speaker 3: this goes tomorrow, because it'll be an interesting debate and
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  Speaker 3: no question about it. And you know, I think everybody,
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  Speaker 3: everybody needs some help on this one.
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  Speaker 2: And put in the geese.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's we all have to live with the
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  Speaker 1: geese here in the community, and we all have a
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  Speaker 1: story of driving down Riverside Drive and having to stop
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  Speaker 1: the car because you know, there's like thirty of them
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  Speaker 1: crossing the road to get to the other side. But
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know, you bring up the airport and
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  Speaker 1: there are very serious safety ramifications as a result of
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  Speaker 1: these geese. They're not just a great little tourist attraction.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: Anything at the airport that involves wildlife and the potential
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  Speaker 3: of you know, one of these poor animals getting stuck
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  Speaker 3: in a plane or anything like that, that's that's a
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  Speaker 3: very serious issue.
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  Speaker 2: But it's the same thing with traffic as well. It's
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  Speaker 2: a very serious issue. And you know.
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  Speaker 3: I certainly I get it, you know, I get where
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  Speaker 3: people see the problem. I just hope that the solution
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  Speaker 3: is something that works, because when you read the report,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's very difficult to assume that one of
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  Speaker 3: these ideas is going to actually even work right, and
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  Speaker 3: you would hope that Mother Nature would find a way
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  Speaker 3: to deal with the situation, as she seems to always find.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see where this goes tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, I you know, we got a restaurant right
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  Speaker 3: at the corner h called the Loose Goose. So the
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  Speaker 3: last thing we need is any negative publicity towards these
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  Speaker 3: poor things, and hopefully we can find a way to
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  Speaker 3: help them and help the people at the same.
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  Speaker 1: Nice tie and shout out there for the Loose Goose restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: Cancer Geniac of course, is noting that it's a traffic hazard.
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  Speaker 1: She also says that this is a biohazard issue because
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  Speaker 1: of the goose droppings, and we actually purchased a specialized
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  Speaker 1: machine to clean up the waste from the geese, but
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  Speaker 1: apparently they're just they're producing too much waste that I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we just can't keep up with that machine.
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  Speaker 1: But again, it shows that they don't have any real
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  Speaker 1: predators here and they're just able to thrive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that, and that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is how long does that last?
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  Speaker 3: And then if it doesn't, who are the predators and
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  Speaker 3: what is it? Would that be an additional layer of
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  Speaker 3: an issue that we have to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the questions I wanted to bring up.
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow and saying, well, if we let this play itself, phone,
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  Speaker 3: who's coming for the Geese eventually? Because just as always,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if there's if there's something there, something wells it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just a matter of time. So that's one
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  Speaker 3: of the things I want to know about tomorrow as well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I remember the episode of The Simpsons
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  Speaker 1: where they had to start bringing in predator after predator
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  Speaker 1: after predator to deal with the solution. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the route that we're going to be going
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  Speaker 1: down here, but it'll be interesting to keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: on this one, Roaldo, because it's just the reality of
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  Speaker 1: the situation on the ground. These things are here and
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  Speaker 1: we got to deal with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then listen there it's it's it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: we got to protect them as well. We've got to
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  Speaker 2: deal with them, but we also.
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  Speaker 3: Got to protect them and we got to find a
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  Speaker 3: solution that works, because the last thing we want to
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  Speaker 3: do is be done as you know, a city that
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  Speaker 3: is not that is not kind, right, Like, we got
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  Speaker 3: to do what's right for them. We got to do
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  Speaker 3: what's right for the people. And I have a hard
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  Speaker 3: time believing that someone around the world has not solved
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  Speaker 3: this problem or faced this problem yet.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see where it goes.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just hoping that we get to have another
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  Speaker 1: one of Marey Dilkins's drops of clucking redic because I
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  Speaker 1: still really liked that phrase.
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  Speaker 3: It was, it's a nice day when this is what
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about above everything else that we have going on.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it's there's a lot going on in
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  Speaker 3: our city, and you know, but this is just as important,
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  Speaker 3: maybe as not some other things. But you know, public
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  Speaker 3: safety and the safety of these animals is important.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see if we can get something done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, fingers crossed on that one. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for your time today. I know that
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  Speaker 1: you're busy and that this might not reach the height
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  Speaker 1: of the most important things that you deal with on
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  Speaker 1: a daily basis, but I'm glad to have shared some
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  Speaker 1: time with you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, brother, I appreciate it. Have a great day you too.
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  Speaker 1: Ronaldo Augustino is the city councilor for Ward three. You're
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