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CC9: Metal Warriors | Retro Game of the Month · Cart Creeps

• Carter Creepington: That's how we start. Yeah, that's usually how we start. To the ninth ⁓ retro game of the month episode, or the eleventh total episode of the Cart Creeps podcast. I'm Ryan. And we also have Keith. I don't know. I don't I didn't search the list. I don't know who's going first. I was waiting on who was actually supposed to go second, which was also not me. This is Jay. Is it always me? I think it's always you. And you always You're all knowing fool. I should just start saying all the names. It'd be easier that way. They need to connect the name to the voice at the beginning of the episode. They know how they do start tune, they know who is who and what voices are what. Every episode is someone's first episode, and I mean honestly, with our current number of episodes, it's very likely this is someone's first episode. So but if it is welcome. Welcome back. And if it is, welcome. And if it is also check out our back catalogue. Like we mentioned, there's ⁓ ten more to watch after the ⁓ after this. Look at my varying facial hairstyles in each episode and yeah. My hair length changes throughout too, 'cause it's like it started out pretty short and then it got pretty long and now it's short again. It's been short for the last two. Yeah, you're facing A little bit longer every month. Yeah. Sometimes I do costumes, but I'm Gabe, your face ⁓ eating candy. No. Very funny, right, guys? Another classic bit from Gabe. I wonder how many backgrounds Gabe has used so far. That's true. That's yeah. He's had the most. He's had the most backgrounds compared to Jay's had two. I think Gabe's had three now, so. It's more than three because my background has definitely yeah. Yeah. Gabe because Gabe has had multiple in his house it also would change. Multiple in his original house when he started this and then it's changed at least two more it was at your house, your place, and then I think last time it was at a different place and now it's at a new place. It was at my place. Last time it was my place. It's because I'm couch hopping. So we'd 'cause he's homeless. ⁓ He's a jumper actor. This is a yeah. I teleported into this empty apartment that was fully furnished. This is his only job, and he splits it with ⁓ four of us, and we also just lose money every single time we do anything. So ⁓ he just has to We do it for the love of the game. Games. Yeah. Love of the games. Good job. Speaking of games. That's why he's the best, everyone. Don't say that so these first time listeners, you don't wanna give them too much. No, we've already established that. Thank you, Felicity. He loves evil. Yeah. ⁓ speaking of games, Keith, what have you been playing lately? Other than the game that we have chosen for this month, I have been playing Marvel Token Fighting Souls. That is the You've been playing a lot of different games. No, I mean not right now. That's it's You play Street Fighter regularly. I do play Street Fighter regularly, but once Marvel came out, I've I've been focusing all on that. I'm Fighting Game Head. That's my that's my lore bit for new for new listeners. That game does look sick. Shut up. Yeah, so that's what I'll that's all I've been playing. It's ⁓ it's an incredible game. ⁓ I'm loving every single second of it. Finally, Marvel Tag fighters are back ever since you know Marvel III. We don't count Marvel Infinite. I didn't really enjoy that one. Has ⁓ is there any like spectacular changes in past Marvel fighting games? It's made by a completely different company because before it was Marvel vs. Capcom. So Capcom made those. ⁓ Japanese Cup company, Arxis. So what you're saying is there's no Capcom characters now. No, there's not. There's not. Technically, the Marvel characters that were in the Marvel vs. Capcom games are Kind of also Capcom characters when you really think about it. I just assume this game is also in there. I just assume this game was made by China because isn't the Overwatch game made in China? Or is that also Japanese? Marvel Rivals. Yeah, Rivals. Marvel Rivals is sh that's that's China that's made by Chinese ⁓ companies. They probably own it's no, it's Great. Now I'm pulling out my phone in the middle of an episode. You do that regardless if we're germain. Yeah, but now I'm calling attention to it, which I would never do. ⁓ NetEase, let's see who makes Marvel. Net Ease, okay. Yeah, they're they're a Chinese company. Yeah. ⁓ Arc Systemworks is the one that designed ⁓ Marvel Tokon, though. They're they make ⁓ fighting games. They're they made Dragon Ball Fighters as well, which is another incredible game. So yeah. And it's ⁓ it's a great time. Now you should all play it. And we should all play fighting games together. ⁓ if you watched our tier list video, you'll learn that fighting games are actually the best. It didn't rank that high, but it ranked above it it ranked above some other stuff, so we went so we all all ⁓ four of us went to a local ⁓ it wasn't not quite a convention, but like an expo, a retro games expo at ⁓ CCS Raleigh, which is Charlie's collectible show in Raleigh, that's like they're local to here, but Like it's new, it's a new ⁓ revelation that they open one up in ⁓ northern North Raleigh. But they're in Trick States. Yeah, Triangle Town Center. They're in other states. I there's one in Atlanta, I'm sure I believe there's one in Texas as well. One in Atlanta and in Georgia. That's a that's a Charlie bit. That's crazy. Two different cities in the same state. Philly. Yeah. And Pittsburgh. Yeah. But ⁓ we went there and ⁓ these guys ⁓ Well, Keith and ⁓ Gabe played a little bit of Smash. We played one game with ⁓ one of our ⁓ fellow or sorry, our ultra creeps, ⁓ David, one of our, you know, good members and good friends. And also some ⁓ random guys. We've never met him before Yeah. There's also some guy we'd never met before that came who was apparently. Yeah, he was a vendor at this and they played Smash. It was it was ⁓ melee, right? It was melee. ⁓ Yeah, no keep Keith lost and unbelievable. Keefe didn't last the longest. I did. I got David was out first, then Gabe and then Keith. Who's Mr. Melee, which I'm not as ⁓ I'm not as ⁓ learned up on melee. Yeah, the guy well the guy that won did at least earn himself mostly some he earned some stickers, some ⁓ Cart Creep's merch, official cart creeps merch. ⁓ which I saw him throw into the trash. I wonder what that was about. Don't think we've mentioned it before now, but ⁓ we had some stickers made for specifically for stuff like this, like going to ⁓ you know, conventions and things like that and handing them out at stores and stuff. But we also gifted ⁓ some of them to our all of our Patreon supporters, ⁓ at any level. They got mailed a custom Not custom, but I handwritten and also not handwritten. I was typed by me on a typewriter. But everyone got a typewritten email or typewritten piece of mail plus some stickers and ⁓ mail to their house that are ⁓ you know, Patreon members. So Yeah. Thanks for your support. Also on that note was Keith's phone number and home address. Mm-hmm. Do without what you want. ⁓ so if you like the show and you like getting mail and you like getting stickers, consider joining the Patreon. It's something we're gonna try to do ⁓ once a quarter, call it Creep quarterly where we send out some stickers and ⁓ maybe some other stuff in the future. ⁓ put it on your water bottle, like I did. Yeah, you can put it on your water bottle or put it on your put it on your soda can. Mine's not even in it's the handle is in the other room, the one that has the sticker on it. But what if I've been taking all the stickers and just putting them on disposable shit at this point of the room? Put it on your Capri Sun. ⁓ but ⁓ Sorry, that was a long tangent. Back to ⁓ what we've been playing. I have only played I think, no, I did try playing something else. Well, actually, we didn't even mention the game. It's if you haven't seen it behind me right now, we haven't actually mentioned it by name yet, I think, in the episode. Metal Warriors for Super Nintendo. That's what we game of the Metal Warriors. You would have seen you've seen it already at the title of the ⁓ episode. But Metal Warriors. Other than that game, I played a little bit of some stuff on the Steam Deck. I think. I'm trying to remember because it wasn't very long. I don't remember. After we had such a long game last time, I took a pretty big break from playing anything. I started trying to read books again. ⁓ I tried to get Fable 2 for the 360 to run on the Steam Deck. And it kind of worked, but there's like I well, I remember looking into it before installing it, and they're like, there's like a glitch. That'll like turn your character's skin like entirely like black, you know, not like not like you know, like Keefe, but just like just black hundred percent like Keefe's shirt. Like that. and then the dog also explodes. And I was like, what does that mean? The dog explodes. And then I got the dog and I saw what they meant. It's just like constant bright flashing light emanating from the dog. And the dog follows you on all the time. It's one of the dog games, you know, where it does just dog with you all the time. Yeah there's ways to fit around it and fix it, but I haven't like delved into actually doing that yet. Maybe you might come around to it and find it an enjoyable part of the experience. Yeah, it looks it's really distracting, but I can't play Fable Two without exploding dog man. That's what makes it the experience that it is. And I think even even with all that part of game. Even with all that being said, I'm pretty sure At most, it's gonna run at like 30 frames and it was running at like 10 frames in the intro, which is like pretty bad. But I don't think I played anything else really. Like, what do we what happened between now and the last time we recorded a game? It's been ages. I was moving around so much. ⁓ moving around, jumping from place to place. You're a jumper. You don't have to you it takes no effort to jump, okay? Have you seen the movie, you idiot? Yeah, he looks all sweaty after he's done it. Sometimes after he tilts. What are you talking about? It's a movie jumper starting Hayden Christians. Samuel Jackson and any other movie I know he's in besides Star Wars. His mom is played by I don't remember who it was. Sandra Bullock. It's okay. I don't remember ⁓ which one Wait, really? I I'm gonna look it up now. pulling on my phone again. Can you believe it, everybody? I can. I can't do listeners. What's Gabe been playing, huh? Why is Gabe eating? It was Diane. I told you, that's my bit. I'm snacking on candy. I hate Diane. Diane Lane was his mother. This episode's all over the place. This is really cool. This is awful. We're becoming more like a regular podcast. We're cutting a lot of this out for sure. Nah, keep it. Yeah. People love the fluff. Here was. People love jumper. Yeah, people love jumper. I have been playing Metal Warriors. I've been playing like a lot of stuff. Like I played Metal Warriors, I played a little bit of for our high score challenge, I played some Super Mario Kart. The big thing besides Metal Warriors is last night I just started playing Cyberpunk again because I was like, ⁓ I don't know what I'm gonna do now that I'm finished with Metal Warriors, so I turn around Cyberpunk. Yes, okay. ⁓ yeah, Cyberpunk awesome. I've been meaning to like play Cyberpunk ⁓ again for a bit and it was Every time I get back to it, I forget how good it was and like it just continues to hold up time and time again. I never got into it. No, it wasn't my fault. Shut up. It's never too late. That's true, you're right. PlayStation 5 owner. Yes, you're right. That's never not on sale. Well, it's also when I was gonna buy it originally, they took it off the store so I couldn't buy it. So, well, you know. It's been years. Is there like performance issues? Yeah, we know the whole fucking the game shat itself to death. It actually I played it day one on PS five. ⁓ and on PS five it wasn't that bad. I didn't really have any breaking crashes. The one thing I will say was the roads were like a little bare, you know. Sparse cars, but ⁓ that was about it. It played well enough for me. Yeah, I I was in a poor PS four owner, so I had one problem on PC that I had to I had I forgot to update my driver. Graphics card. And once I did that, it played mine. So the cars thing, Jay, I that happened to me because Cyberpunk came out, and then I was still using a hard like a physical, like a HDD, like a hard disk drive until I got Cyberpunk. And then I was like, I have to get us an SSD, which is crazy because like what year did that game come out? 2020? It's not it's pretty old. It's kind of old at So like of course it was still using a non solid a non SSD at the time, but that was what changed most most significantly is once there was an SSD in it, it there were cars on the road because it wasn't able to load the cars because it was too much too slow. The hard drive was cars were there. Yeah. They were just on another plane. Yeah. But everything. Now you have PS5s that are like you gotta have the super duper ultra fast, super SSD or else cars. You're like laying weight. Invisible boat mobiles. And just like take off. There was an invisible car sheet in the Grand the old Grand Theft Auto games, and it was just literally that. Yeah. You could do that with the flying cars and just have a dude sitting on the steering wheel just flying through the air. ⁓ I'm so glad you asked. ⁓ So I don't so this community of everybody. Yeah, this community gym on already showed it to us. Enthusiasts. Yeah, and they already know. But I'm sure like if you follow gaming on like if you have gaming interests, I'm sure you've seen it on your social media anyway. For me it's been flooding my timelines. ⁓ but it's ⁓ I guess a community of Pokemon enthusiasts have gotten together and basically broke down Red, blue, and yellow, and they're working on Gen 2 now, but it's called like the project is called Gen One Recomp. But basically, they they broke down red, blue, and yellow and just modded the crap out of it and like it's a really easy install on my Steam Deck and you can basically do like third person, like full gameplay with both thumbsticks. You can do first person, there's just a bunch of cool customization things. never heard of it you should definitely look it up. It is very neat to look at. It kind of changes the way Gen One plays. And like it's almost like what fans have been just asking Game Freak to do for a long time. But then the fans just decided to do it themselves. Nice. So go ahead and get that downloaded before Nintendo takes that down. I was gonna say it'd be really funny if like this podcast is what kills that game There's countless videos of people talking about it. So like you sent us a link of a YouTube video showing how to like download it. It was a really easy Steam Deck install. So if you guys like Pokemon at all, you should try it out. I encourage it. If you like Pokemon. Yeah, if you don't like Pokemon, don't even bother. Fuck off if you don't like Pokemon. I don't know what's another bit of J Lore for new listeners. ⁓ he loves Pokemon. So keep that in your pocket. It always comes. I'm sure there is I'm sure there's been Pokemon lore about me in every episode we've done so far. I feel like there has been. Every mainline. I'm wearing a Pokemon shirt right now. I got the shirt at said convention. Yeah, you got the shirt at Charlie's Collectible Show. Raleigh. Raleigh. At Triangle Town Center. Follow ⁓ Follow them on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram. Yeah. And us on Discord. There's another one coming up in November. Don't follow me on Instagram. ⁓ so since we neglected to mention the the game of the month until halfway talking us us talking about ⁓ you know twenty minutes Yeah as a yeah we mentioned I mean I didn't mention it once it's it's going on behind me. I'll explain the whole concept 'cause like we said, if this is this could be your first episode ever. So the idea is we have a wheel, a creep wheel, if you will, ⁓ spinning wheel that we spill spin every episode. ⁓ at the end of every episode. And whatever game gets picked is the one we play for the next month. So right now we don't know what next month's game will be. ⁓ we'll find out live later in the episode. You could skip ahead of the end if you want, but like where's the fun in that? Or maybe that's the only part you care about. You could do that. I don't care. Just watch the rest of it at some point. But we'll see how you do that on the YouTube analytics. Yeah. I have seen it already. I have seen the uptick in the where the creep wheel is gets like yeah, it's actually a thing. Exactly. Which is really funny. ⁓ 'cause it's not that anybody watching. It's really cool that we have the most watched though. Yeah. We're doing something right. Yeah. That's right. So the ⁓ creep wheel, right? So this last month the game that was rolled was Metal Warriors, which was Gabe's game. And so the way it works is Gabe went and ⁓ picked three games for everyone in the Discord, all members of the Discord, not just Patreon members, everyone to vote on for next month. And we'll let him explain those in just a second. But there's also some other games. There's one more game we're adding to the wheel this month because we had another ⁓ Ultra Creep member ⁓ join on Patreon. So we have ⁓ what is it, Star Wars Shadows of the Empire, I believe is the name of the game added. ⁓ because we had one more ⁓ Ultra Creep. And so if you want to become get your own game on the wheel, become an Ultra Creep on Patreon, you can put your game on there and whenever it gets picked, you get to pick pick a new a new replacement. You know, you don't have to have people vote on it. You just decide which one you want. But Gabe You want to talk about the three that you had as options, and you can mention which one one if you want, or you can save it to the end. Yeah, so ⁓ obviously Metal Warriors won, that's my game. I picked three. They voted. The three I picked were ⁓ Adventurous Batman Robin, Gundam Battle Assault. Yeah. And yeah, Gundam Battle Assault and Psychonauts. And I think Psychonauts won, right? Psychonauts think. Yeah, I know that they won, but I still said I think talking about but we were doing a live play by play of the voting when it was happening. We're like, come on. I kinda wanted I kinda wanted Gundam Not We don't vote on these polls. ⁓ Yeah, we don't vote. So but ⁓ I I'm a I'm I'm a static psychonauts one. ⁓ that's a awesome game. I hope it wins this month. But we'll find out at the end of the episode. Another bit of key floor for the podcast as ⁓ keep always wins the ⁓ the spin the spin on the wheel. So he has the most wins, obviously doesn't always win, or we wouldn't have played my game this month. Well accidents happen. I mean, think about it, guys. All right, Gabe. Tell us about the game that play we played this month. Yeah, Metal Warriors is ⁓ A Konami game for the Super Nintendo, ⁓ produced by LucasArts, which is really cool. ⁓ came out in nineteen ninety-five. ⁓ it is not a Japanese game at all. It's apparently fully this is a fun fact because I I wore a Toyota shirt today because I was like, ⁓ what am I gonna do? ⁓ Toyota's Japanese, that's Japanese shirt. Let's throw that together. But it's not even a Japanese game. So that's a fake fan. Fake fan. ⁓ yeah, it was completely developed by Lucasfilm in North America. what else? It's like a 2D platformer where there's you're what you're usually playing is a mech. And then you go through there's like nine missions you go through. ⁓ there's I think six mechs you can play. The unique thing about this is that you can get out of your mech and you're like so like the normal sprite's like this big. It's like a mech and then when you get out your sprite, it doesn't like zoom in on it or anything. You like stay like this teeny teeny tiny little guy. ⁓ you're a regular size guy. That's true. So you can fly around shooting guys. Generally you don't want to be out of your mech, but there are times It's kind of fun. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean zoom around isn't it? Yeah, you can really zoom around. But ⁓ there are times when you have to get out of your mech or you want to get out of your mech because if your mech blows up while you're inside of it, you die, but you can get out of it when it gets really damaged and there's varying levels of damage. ⁓ which we'll talk about later. But that's our catchphrase here. So we'll we'll talk about that later. A little bit of foreshadowing glory. A little bit of creep alure. We like to talk about things later. A little bit of syllabus. We like to have fun here. No, but yeah, ⁓ that's that's the gist of it. ⁓ I picked it because honestly, Ryan sent it to me. He sent me an Instagram. He's like, ⁓ this looks cool, doesn't it? I was like, Yeah, it does look cool. I'm gonna put that on his My game for I think it replaced Super Castlevania before we were doing the voting. I think that's that's the only other one I've won. Guy loves really hard video games. Yeah. Yeah, I won Super Castlevania, they're Metal Warriors. They're both challenging fun games. They're platformers. They're both ⁓ you know, kinda like shooting stuff. Yeah, they're similar actually. They're pretty s they're similar in scope and in style. Really similar to one of the games that I won with. I don't know. I don't know. Just break it down. We really think about it. We really think about it. It actually is i I hate to admit it, but it is kind of similar in some regards. Like you get the upgrade system. You get the upgrade system. Mm-hmm. He's talking about Iron Man, Exo Man of War, and heavy metal, which is the most dog shit game I've ever played. No. We talked about that in another episode. So go ahead and hop on over to that episode if you wanna Heroes really trash again. Figure out what we're deserved. Figure that out. Shh. Figure out what we're talking about with Iron Man XO Man of War. Come back here and then, you know, continue with this episode. Yeah. But unfortunately is right. There are similar elements. Like there's the Seeker Shot, ⁓ You're in a middle level how figure in place. Open levels, you're flying around, you're shooting left and right. It's you know, how one does it so well and the other one is. Iron Man, obviously. Iron Man, obviously. Yeah, Iron Man does it really well. It's k i I'd actually looked it up, it came out ⁓ I didn't make it a year after. Like, how could we make this game but bad? Even better. That's crazy. That's so we mentioned this in that episode too. If they had not focused on making it three D, it would have been a pretty good two D shooter. Like it could have been. Yeah, they definitely focused on it. But they did the wrong. They didn't do that. Anyway. Again, you can listen hop over and listen to that episode. Come back here if you wanna understand any time we reference that game. Let's talk about how we played it though. ⁓ if you're new to the podcast, we I don't know why we're mentioning this, we never mentioned this this many times before. It's funny. Sometimes you get a random joke and you just run with it throughout the whole episode. So if you if you're new here, ⁓ Friday night us actually ⁓ We never get to stay up late and not have to worry about work the next day. We're more dick and The real we buy we have the we have the systems and we buy each buy a copy of the real game and we do that every single time. This time it costs us a grand total of two thousand dollars between all four of us. That's a lie. We're like we don't nobody's bought. We split the costs. Yeah, it's I think I believe it runs five hundred bucks for a cartridge because they're just my understanding is there weren't a lot of them made because this came out at the very like end of the life cycle of ⁓ Super Nintendo. So they were just like, ⁓ and like Which is a shame. We'll talk about that more later, you know. But Jay, how do you ⁓ how did you play it? I think I know how you played it. Just to to your point, there were only fifty thousand copies made, which is such a small number. Like even For a LucasArts game too. Yeah, for any video game, even at the end of a cycle, that just seems ridiculously small. But because I didn't want to burn five hundred dollars on fifty thousand A game that I probably wouldn't. Nintendo's ever sold. let me let me we'll cut that. Let me start that over give pull that up. Pull it up, Keith. Yeah. Pull up what because I don't want to spend five hundred dollars distracting on a video game, I just played it on my Steam Deck and it played beautifully. ⁓ I mean it's a super Nintendo game on a very strong system, so like it has all the buttons you need. Nice screen. Yeah. Moving screen, bright screen. ⁓ I mean much to it than that. Yeah, you gotta save stage which you absolutely need. ⁓ I need. So for my understanding if you are playing it in a short amount of time. Yeah. From my understanding, if you had it on the physical cartridge, there is no save points between levels. There are no like I tested passcodes, nothing like that. So you have to beat it in one run and you have five lives to do it. Oof. Easy. Oof. I ⁓ I played I don't know if it's my turn or not. It's not. It's Keith's turn. Yeah. Let's hear it, Keith. okay. ⁓ how's your experience later? I'm not reading. Okay, I don't look at my phone during the one ever looks at anything that I make. I usually have it up, but I don't have multiple monitors set up right now. That's what I did up. I was ready to go. What do you look at us for? ⁓ Normally I play on when I'm not playing it on my PS five, because sometimes the games do allow us for that, I play it on Definitely not this one other. Yeah, not on this one. ⁓ normally I played on one of the other hand tells that I bought from Ryan, actually. It's a R X seventy eight. It's not that you knew the podcast ⁓ keeps gets it wrong every single time. And I don't know if it's a bit now or not. ⁓ but it's R thirty six X. Mix them up. That was awesome. I did play on that one this time. ⁓ Niss actually bought a retro I did play on this, yes. I'm proud of you, Keith. Thank you. I like the size of that. Yeah. It is it's a Retro Pocket Five. Kind of reminds me of like a PSP. It is, yeah. It's very it's it's a really nice ⁓ piece of tech here. ⁓ the Yeah, I'd be really interested, yeah. Go ahead and talk more about that because I think that's the first time we have a this is the first time we've covered something. This is the first thing have. Compared to playing on the RX seventy eight, playing on that one compared to that, it's really nice having a just a much bigger well wider grip. 'Cause in the other one it's very it's narrow. So in when especially in a button intensive game like this. Is it is it nearby? It's like a little Game Boy thing. Yes. I'll grab it real quick. I'm a pro horizontal handhelds guy, not vertical handhelds guy. I like the way the Game Boys look. But I like horizontals better. Yeah. This is the RX seventy eight six. ⁓ so the RP nine three sixty nine. It's the it's the Gundam ⁓ model number, that's what that is. So this is the ⁓ this is what I normally play on when I'm using other methods to get the games on here. ⁓ so this one is it's nice, but again, like especially I had this problem when I was playing Iron Man actually. When there are like really a lot of button presses and s ⁓ my fingers can really start to hurt because of how they kinda have to make everything work on this. This retroid was a lot smoother to play on, even with this, you know, game as intensive as it was. ⁓ it it's just a really nice and it's really smooth. Once I got everything set up, I just moving to your games, had them all set up and there's all like it's got like special menus, you know, it all it all works. And it's like, man, this is a really nice piece of deck. Man, and I really don't enjoy it. ⁓ how much was it? 250. It's not bad. Yeah, yeah. It's not bad at all. I'm in insane debt from this podcast, so brother, ain't we all? My background may change pretty soon. I don't know. To the outdoors. But yeah, it was ⁓ it was really nice and Outdoors got me pretty good. ⁓ yeah, but it's ⁓ it's really nice and really smooth experience playing on that. ⁓ I do actually prefer it over the other one. ⁓ and then we just run more stuff. This, you know, the RX 78 damage, it's you know, it's nice, but it's it when we tr when I tried to play Silicon Space Station Silicon Valley on this, the it it chugged and it and I was seeing through the walls when I wasn't supposed to be seeing through the walls. So clearly there were a lot of tech e a lot of tech issues with that one, yeah. But ⁓ but yeah, it's really nice. ⁓ one quick issue I had with it, ⁓ the button to get out of your mech is the same button that I put the function. So sometimes it fucked me when I tried ⁓ when I do that. So I had to end up pausing it every time I wanted to save state because it it annoyed me because I would get out of my mech and then I would actually you'd lose something or you just it's just awkward. So then you have to get back in. So it's like, okay. So I had to pause it every time I wanted to save state. But other than that, it's ⁓ That's incredible. So I just dealt with the fact that I was getting out of my mech. I kind of like would plan it. I'd like get out of my mech and then plan it so the safe state is me getting into my Yeah. I think I just changed the yeah, I changed the button I used to start the hotkey process, which I switched to L3. Mm-hmm. But yeah, ⁓ if you are interested in RP five, we talked about them a little bit more in our first creep chat episode or creep talk one with me with one that was just me and Keith. ⁓ check it out. We talked about how to buy ⁓ these things and ⁓ what what you can kinda performance you can expect out of ⁓ speaking of those, another one we mentioned in that episode was the one I played on, the R G three five XX H, which is the horizontal looking one I have, right? Yeah it is. You have the clear one, but I have the the all black one. Yeah, I played on this. it is similar in specs to the what Keith was talking about, the R36S, his other one. It's a little bit more powerful than that, has a slightly better processor. But ⁓ I'm trying to figure out what Jay's pointing at. Well, on his on his screen. On my screen I was pointing to you. And then Keith was pointing up to me. I need for my screen. What I was top left. What I was pointing at my dresser because that's where my unit that Brian. I just like report so I was like, I want to get in on this plane. Yeah. ⁓ boy. So I said in that episode of ⁓ the first ⁓ creep chat, ⁓ this is a good value for the money. It's like sixty bucks now I think and it runs up to PS one and all some N64 games. ⁓ obviously ran Su Super Nintendo and like I said, I use the L three to my hotkey activation. So my save state was L three and right ⁓ R1. So select didn't get in the way of that. Select and start are in good spots on this one. And there are on the new that keeps RP5 as well. My ⁓ I have an RP three, which is has them in a terrible spot. They're on the top. ⁓ that's actually what's plugged in the TV over there. ⁓ so they really improved on that. But yeah, I played on this. I've played a couple games on this before. I think I played Castlevania on this as well. It's a good handheld. I really like it. I like the portability and the size and everything. ⁓ obviously I used ⁓ Save states, ⁓ as I always do. I don't I didn't use a ton in the early part of the game. I was trying to do it like ⁓ without you know, I would at least save state at the beginning of the level and then try to do the whole level without ⁓ dying. And I could maybe get through the first and second levels, but after that it got too tough. But I will say, ⁓ I was save stating like after every few enemies after a point, like I yeah, when I get burnt further into it, I just started safe stating for convenience because the levels got a lot more complicated and harder to navigate. This is like a game that I think if you played it naturally, it'd really challenge your memory because Yeah. You have to be anticipating things that are coming. Like and it would probably be a lot of trial and error to get through this game naturally. It was probably any of us. If I had to play this naturally, I'd be very upset. I would be because I think playing it on a Super Nintendo controller would be really tough because I thankfully had a joystick and I think most everybody else did too. I tried playing it with D pad only and it's a lot harder to aim using just the D pad because it's joysticks pretty clear. I found the D pad more like I guess on the Steam Deck ⁓ for me it was more it was easier to aim. Really I D pad yeah I want to say I was using my thumbstick was just it was so sensitive. ⁓ really And ⁓ my gun was just going like for aiming. I think I don't know if it's like I feel like sometimes I don't know if so fun on the thumbstick. I don't know if like different mechs had better aim or different like shots. I don't know if that made it worse, but yeah, I didn't really have an issue with aiming with the d pad. My main strategy was just to hold the shoot button at all times. Yeah. So yeah, Gabe, how did you play it? ⁓ also Steam Deck. ⁓ I had thought about playing it on my horizontal handle, but ⁓ I don't know, I just went with Steam Deck because it's really easy to download stuff on the Steam, yeah, Deam Deck, you know, to like get it all set up. It's easy to do on those two if you like you can sign in the Wi Fi. You can sign in as a like HTTP server or whatever. And then download it on your phone and then connect to it with your like on the same Wi-Fi as the device and then just drop the file in there. But not that I mean, you know, we got that we're not telling you where to how to do that, where to get stuff like that. But I also I I forgot to mention I did play it I played a few levels on Steam Deck just to see what it looked like and I think I also wanted to play it on the TV. So I played this level to the snow level on the Steam Deck, and I've also had played up until the snow level I think on the Other one. And then I kept picked it up the rest of it on the ⁓ Art RG three five XXH and finished it on that. I think I got the jungle. Maybe it was a jungle level. Anyways. so Keith? Yes. What did everybody finish, right? Yes. I finished. Okay. Just in time. I did it in two days time. I finished today. Record time. I didn't do it I did it kind of long and slow, but I did finish today. But I've only fast and hard. I only did the boss fight today. That's like all I had left to do. So Yeah. ⁓ Keith, today too. Yep. Why don't you ⁓ talk about it's your section now? Do your job, Keith. Whatever you're supposed to be talking about. ⁓ yeah, whatever. I made an outline. Sorry, got that. leave it. We can start, know, really diving into this ⁓ little gem of a game. I really did enjoy this. ⁓ we've kind of we have we haven't really talked about how much we actually like the game or not. We I mean we we've we yeah, we I really enjoyed this game. This ⁓ I would say I didn't feel this was the hardest game in the pod, but I still really enjoyed it. I just really just for like the opening we'll start talking about like you know, cutscenes and the art and presentation, things like that. Just the opening cutscene of the guy, you know, flipping on the switches in the mech and I'm like on the screen editor. Whoa, yes. Like I'm like, holy shit, this event. Like the more cutscenes you see this game, like whoa. The pixel art is so pretty. It is so fucking good. And I'm like, Wow, okay, I'm in. I'm in. It makes sense that it was made so late on the console. I mean Yes, right, exactly. Yeah. That makes yeah. When you feel yeah, pretty much like towards the end it's like, ⁓ yeah, it makes they they really had all the time in the world to really make this look the best it can on this machine. Yeah, and they fully understood like how to use the machine that was gonna be playing. And the more damage would do you could see it physically on your bot and like the the color would start sparkling cool. Yeah. Mm hmm. And then eventually you you can't use your gun, you can't do anything, you can all just walk up. So the stages are the color fades first, and then it's and then the armor starts to deteriorate. And then one of the features of the game is you can get weapon attachments and you can't attach weapons anymore. And then you lose your ability to fight it all, like your arms get blown off. Yeah, you just walk around. And ⁓ that it's usually at that point that you're like, okay, I need to like Maybe I can push a little further, but I need to be abandoning my mech. Which is when you can g which is what's so cool is like you will get to a point in this game because it like there's a lot of enemies and there's a lot of shooting at you and your mech's gonna get damaged and it's gonna get to a point where you're like, I have to get out of my mech and hopefully find another one. Or at least push my mech far enough to where I can get like a health pack. Yeah. Yeah. Or even like scout ahead. I I did that a lot. Yeah. Where I would get out, scout ahead with the person, look around Find the pickups and see if I can add to some of them in the later levels for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is yeah, it was really just really amazing what they what they did here with this game and the music was incredible as well. I really love the music. There was boss fight tracks, but like the few that there were were all really good. They were all bangers. The level the level music, the fur opening level music is really good. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna say also the visu we're talking about the damage indicators. There is no like HUD on the game. There's nothing, no on screen elements. You just see the you, you know, and you have to pay attention to what's going on with your Mac, which is cool. Like I was because I remember when I started I was like, I don't have a health bar or anything, but it's like no, it's visually you're changing and like your mech's getting more damage. That's how you could tell. And when you're thought I had another issue with my ⁓ with my system again, 'cause when I played space station Silicon Valley, I also didn't notice I had a health bar. That's because it couldn't really run well on the RX 78 here. So if this is your first time listening, go ahead and hop over to our space station Silicon Valley episode. Yeah, so but yeah, drop a comment or two. No HUD or yeah, like and subscribe. So yeah, you know, there's no like HUD, like Arn said, and it's just yeah, you have to it's all just pure game, you know, no clutter. Which is actually so immersive. It's so the pixel art is so like, I don't know, it's at a level that It's some of the best I've ever seen. Obviously, there's modern games that have more pixels to work with, but for this the size of the screen for the time, nineteen ninety five, I feel like this is probably one of, if not the best, pixel art of it of like its time. You know, it has to be. Yeah. Comparing it like Super Metroid, also very good, really good pixel art. But this is like there's a lot there's more detail. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot more detail in it. There's so much it goes into it. That not just the sprites. for the enemies and yourself, but like the levels too. Like this. You should put up a picture of the humans though, because they are they still look good, but they are like probably like six dots or something. It really illustrates how big these mechs are too. Yeah. Yeah. I yeah it's no it's great. Yeah. I believe there's a couple of different kinds of humans. There's like a scient to me, I thought it was like scientists and soldiers. Did you shoot scientists or did you only shoot scientists? I shot ⁓ all. Are you not supposed to? I didn't know that was a option to not do that. No, I don't know. I shot ⁓ all too. They're evil. Wow, how evil. Scientists can be evil. There is a historically speaking, a lot of them are. There is a little scientist. ⁓ There's stor ⁓ there's a section on story in this deep dive section, but we'll just do it now because it's not there's not much to it. It's at the end, which doesn't make a lot of sense. So let's just do it now. But there is a story. It's like there's two different warring factions. Of course, they both have like mechs, and ⁓ your side is like basically going in these different places and infiltrating these different like places that this whatever the enemy faction is even called. They mention it, I don't remember what it is, but it's the rest of the world's doing while they're having their little mech war. Yeah. There's ⁓ Axis was his which is a Gundam reference. I don't know if it is or not, but maybe it's a reference to the Axis. It's just a general robot reference in the year twenty one ⁓ two. Being under siege from Dark Axis led by Dark Axis leader Venkar Aman, a few remaining warriors defending Earth are known as the Metal Warriors. Metal Warriors. So I guess the other people on Earth are just dead. Yeah. ⁓ One is abandoned. Yeah, it's like a city. Jungle Ice City is abandoned and then jungle, there'll be people there. And then the city you go to is being burned, so I mean there's more people there. Yeah, yeah. Dark Axis is like actively destroying the city to keep you from getting the base. Yeah. Is that four or no, it's not four it's like six. Six. Six, I think. No, seven. Sorry, seven. Okay. It's probably worth mentioning that The ⁓ robot that you play as, whatever the name of the robot the the mechs have n names. I don't know what they are. The one you play in typically we start the level in, they don't the the enemies don't have to unique nitro is unique to your faction, but the other ones you can take and steal. Which now is probably also a Gundam reference because the like lead developer ⁓ on this was a big Gundam like fan and like other mech stuff. And I recently learned that the whole idea behind the original Gundam TV show was that the Gundam the unit was like super advanced for its time and I'm kind of thinking that's the idea behind the Metro or the Nitro too in ⁓ Metal Warriors. It's like it's supposed to be a super advanced suit compared to like Dark Axe. They don't have that, but if you get out of your mech And you there's a any soldier running around. ⁓ yeah. They will just hop in and take your hard happening. I was like, they can take your mech. Yeah. It's nuts. It's nuts that the it's nuts that the AI knows to do that or like whatever like the program is like so there's an empty thing nearby. I Did they always take the empty ones though? Like the ones that are preset in the level, they don't usually take those though. Yeah, there's one weird section that I think you first. Yeah, I think it's like the second section of level six, it's after the jungle. And you have to like press all the switches, like turn all the off on switches off. And there's one where you you have to like go turn one off and then backtrack and go turn another one off later. But there's a mech in the room, and I got in the mech, ⁓ killed everyone in the room and like I guess a gameplay element that happens a lot is humans will just continually come through doors. So like there's always humans coming on a screen and I cleared the room. I got out of the mech for like half a second, turned the switch off, and a human spawned through the door and got in the mech. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. Like I was out of it for like less than a second. Yeah, you gotta watch those big garage doors and stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's where they come through. Yeah. So what he's talking about with the switches is that's a like that is a gameplay element you have to do sometimes. You have to operate a switch. Yeah. ⁓ which will usually open a door. I love the sound effects too. Yeah. I mean Sprite is like typing. Yeah. He's like I like to imagine he's just smashing a Big button. Open, open, open, open. It's probably yeah, because that's how Jay felt when that guy took his back. ⁓ my god. Yeah. ⁓ the gameplay we haven't gotten to the gameplay section yet, but ⁓ it plays like I'm an Exome Manuel. I think we actually can't. I'm over to that video. I think it it gives me metal slug vibes pretty hard too. ⁓ especially with the bullshit the environments and the jungle environments, especially. Reminds me of Metal Slug. ⁓ I know that's a arcade game and it was definitely more powerful than this. So that I know Metal Slug has more I don't know, when's the first Metal Slug? When did it come out? It's nineties, right? Yes, nineties ⁓ franchise. there's been a shit ton of those too. Great series. I do yeah. Let's see. Metal Slug is nineteen ninety six, so a year out of it. Same year as Iron Man X Metal War. The basic gameplay. What's cool about this game is ⁓ these guys really want me to watch that video. Yeah. Maybe I should one one cool thing about this game is that not every level is just go and shoot and then that's the like you shoot some stuff and that's the end. Every of all of them are varied slightly. There's different like objectives in each one. I mean you're always going and shooting. And then like we've mentioned before, there's other mechs. Like a lot of the levels seem that like they're putting in there specifically to for you to take those and use those in certain parts. Some of them are a lot better than others. Some of them are pretty annoying to use, like the defense one with the big the slow one with the guns that you use on the ship defense. Yeah. That one kind of sucks. The Prometheus. Yeah, you can't jump with it, but I like how destructive it's so hard to move. Do you know what you can do? Yeah, you can bring It's a brain. But you can never go up. Yeah, you just go across Yeah, you have to use the elevators. Which to be fair, it's usually in a elevat it's usually in a level with a lot of elevators. So the best mech, besides the nitro, is obviously the flyer, if that counts. The droid pick up. I hate it. I love the fucking ball. You only get to use it like one fucking like two level and it's awesome. Yeah. It is it is nice, but then you like really like Compared to like the like what Ryan said before of like the different gameplay stuff, it's like you don't really fight a boss until mission six. Like that's like the first time you like really, really find a like real boss. Yeah. And you're st and you're in the ball mech. That boss fight did really make make me hate that mech. ⁓ all the stuff before that was really fun, but finding that boss and that ball mech, I did not like that. It kind of brought me back to my Pokemon pinball days. Just jumping around. Yeah. That mech is either super mobile. Because you turn into a ball and you roll around and it's fast and you jump and you can charge up your jump too and like speed across. or when you're ready to shoot your gun, you can't move at all. Yeah, and you have to you have to be prepared to shoot like a second ahead of time because it's Yeah, because it takes a minute to transform too. That's why I don't like it. I don't know. I didn't have a big problem using that mech. ⁓ I used it for the worms. It seemed like it had a lot of health and it it did really well with the worm. Yeah, I think you had to use it for the worms. The worms part sucked. We'll talk about the levels specifically later. I didn't like the worms. That was like the easiest part for me. I liked the other gun mech. The other like bipedal gun mech with the like kinda looks like a regular gun instead of a laser gun. It shoots like casing shell casings come out. Yeah, yeah. It's got the like the mace thing, I think, or something. Like the flail over the swings. Sounds really good. That's why I beat the game. ⁓ To clarify all the thing almost all the mechs have like four three or four different things they can do, 'cause they have jet they have a some sort of jump or jet pack. ⁓ they have a special, ⁓ and a melee attack, and they have well, the special is like a shield. With the exception of the flying ship. The flying ship's the only one that just sh it shoots, it flies, ⁓ and then it has like a down. Rust attack that's really good. ⁓ Talking about button flower. The only reason the reason it does that is because the buttons you would normally use become like an eight directional shooting mechanism for it, which is really I thought was really cool. Yeah. Like a really cool trade off because it's I just like the way that probably lies around the stake. To me, it's very clearly the best mech. Like yeah, as far as I just like if you put all the mechs in an arena, that one's winning. Yeah. No way. That thing is very fast. That thing's like Nitro doesn't give you a shield, which is really nice. So I never originally used the nitro shield unless I was in a fight with those dudes with the shield. I never got the slash levels. I don't get it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I got I definitely I played the ball I think I played five out of six. There's supposed to be six. I yeah, there's one I didn't never got. Yeah. ⁓ we're getting off track off topic, but generally speaking, the ⁓ warriors man the way the game works is there's levels that you navigate through and they're pretty open, free flowing levels for the most part. They're there's a map, there's a mini map. You press start and it shows you a map. And ⁓ yeah, there's you can you get a little bit of explor exploration in. You don't have to go a specific path every single time to finish the level. You don't have to s finish the level with a specific mech necessarily. You could keep Find one in the level and not use it if you're not getting damaged enough. You keep using the nitro the whole time. You cannot finish the level 'cause you fucking died too. Many times you have to get sent back to the beginning of the game. Yeah. Many times in the level you will have to get out of your mech to operate a switch to continue forward or do something that requires you to get out getting out of the mech. ⁓ that's a it's a common thing. Iron Man Exo Man of War. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm not like that. It's not it isn't like that at all. We have an episode on that. So what could we do actually? ⁓ there's only a few levels I feel like are confusing enough to warrant looking at a map and it's the late last it's the really vertical one near the end, which may be the second level. The tower. Might be the only one that's really 'cause there's lots of lots of Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, your goal rest one is to ⁓ get a key card or something. Jungle is that jungle is confusing too. Yep, and leave. Yeah. Jungle's Jungle was bad, yes, because especially the leaving. I actually did have to look up how to finish, because the goal of that mission is to get the flyer mech. And like, okay, once you get it, you're like, okay, here is now you have to leave with the but with the machine. It's like you just have to get into the sky. Yes, exactly. So it's like, obviously. Right, but like okay. They're like, hey, get to the ship. So like, okay, so I have to try to still move forward. Where's the ship? There's a there's a giant you know, laser beam like, okay, I gotta turn this off. And I'm like digging around, like trying to find it. Like, where the fuck is this switch for this for this ⁓ gate here? I can't find it anywhere. Then I end up looking it up and it's like, ⁓ you just just fly straight up in the air. Yeah, just fly up. Keith, it's sh it's a ship. Well you don't see anything up there. So it's I'm I'm justified in being pissed off. This game pissed me off. I had an issue with that one too. I also I skipped the boss Right there. If we're and then 'cause you can do that. You can just open the doors and got in the ship and try to leave and it didn't work. I had to come back in, kill the boss, it still didn't work. I had missed something. There's something on because the mini map sometimes shows you an objective, and there's something where you had to go to and like download or do something. Mm-hmm. And that's what I missed. I had to fly all the way back down and get it and come all the way back up. And then then I could leave. That was the thing. I was literally flying around. In the tower? In the tower, yeah. Yeah, I did the same thing. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm talking about jungle. Because I don't jungle was I finished jungle pretty fine. It was fine. It just took a lot of This is the longest level, I feel like. But then you also you get the Well not Jungle, but all of six, because it was like a three parter. Yeah. Exit the jungle, go to a second part, and then the flying section. I was gonna say I was maybe talking about difficulty. Yeah, kind of mentioned it before. I I think it's the hardest game with the pod. I agree. I also think it's the hardest game. I think I'm the only one that does that. Yeah, I mean I've kind of breezed through every other game. No, I think because ⁓ this one really did chap my ass more than anything else. No, because I think that Super Castlevania is equally as difficult. And I think there is difficulty. I think I'm just better at that kind of gameplay. Like all you're doing is hopping and throwing axes. Like I can do that. But when you put an extra dimension and all the flying, that's ⁓ that was tough for me. All the diagonals fucked me up pretty good. How are you with the swinging in there? Super Castlevania. I liked it pretty good. I mean, I got a feel for it. But ⁓ no, yeah, yeah, go you know what, ⁓ go over and watch our Super Castlevania video. Your new year. Good good idea. Yeah. If you if you'll remember in the Super Castlevania video, yeah. If you remember in that video, I was like kind of mad about that game and I didn't like it. And I liked because I was pissed. This game I liked. That game I thought was really hard. But this game was I didn't think I remember I said it early on. I was like, this game isn't that hard actually. Like it gets hard in the end. First couple episodes of cur ⁓ you know, missions are pretty easy. Even the ship defense one you guys are complaining about. That one's really easy. You just walk back and forth and shoot stuff. I was getting my ship destroyed so quickly, and I could not fathom why I didn't realize it was like there was like stuff behind me as well. So I was just like just walking forward. So I was like, okay. Plus, when you're in the Prometheus mech, you have to hold the button to the missile. fires farther. I actually read I re I had to I looked up a guide on how to do it 'cause I was getting mad at because I was doing so bad at the level. All you gotta do is like find a part of the ship that isn't broken and just stand there. And the robots come to you and attack you, and not then they'll not like even look at the ship. That's really funny advice. Yeah, just let it destroy most of the ship, but then defend the piece that's not destroyed. That one section in epis or mission two where you have to defend like nine generators or something. That was kinda tough. I actually didn't have a problem with that because I used the same concept as the ship. I was like, I'm gonna keep one generator up and I'm gonna defend it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's I ended up losing eight of the nine. But I yeah, I didn't realize with the ship where what With what Jay's talking about, I didn't realize that I never picked up on you could like identify a part that wasn't broken and just stand there. Yeah. But ⁓ I did I I did eventually just do what you said, Ryan, and like I focused I was going too wide when I was sweeping back and forth. You have to kind of just stay towards the middle of the ship and walk back and forth, and then it's fine. I think the game doesn't get hard till jungle level. I think snow level, which isn't that bad to me. I mean Every yeah you have the slippery ice cannon was you can just fly over it. The cannon So most of the bosses which we were talking about, we complained about everyone I found you could cheese in some way. And I didn't even have to look it up, I just figured it out. It wasn't that hard to figure out. I had to cheat the cannon boss at the end of the snow level. There's like cannon behind you. There's a big cannon that's firing. That's the whole point is to destroy that. And there's like above it is something that shoots grenades at you and a gun that shoots at you. And then below it's the same thing, another gun and a grenade launch. I cheese behind ⁓ is another cannon. And there's ways to cheese it. So I che ended up cheesing it. What the first time I beat it, ⁓ I think I beat it on the Steam Deck first. And I cheesed it by just flying the whole time and like pressing A up and down. And I had killed the gun up at the top, and I think the one at the bottom, and I was just shooting it. Yeah, I destroyed the two turrets and that gun and flew in one spot and just like Shot down at it and that's actually like ⁓ boy, bouncing up and I just hovered up so I was against the roof and just like shot down there. I never ha I didn't have the nitro at that part, so I had to use a different mech. So Yeah. That would be hard. Because I the other way I choosed it was I s I stood in the bottom. Yeah, that's what I did. I killed the two turrets above and below it. And then you can just you can shoot at it too and like angle yourself to where it can't hit you at all, but you can just continually hit it. Yeah, that's what I did. I stood like right at the bottom, right next right in front of the bottom like missile launcher thing. It just wasn't shooting. It's like, okay, I'll stand right here and just aimed up and held held the shoot button. That was it. Yeah, a lot of enemies ⁓ only shoot at you when you're within a certain range of ⁓ except for the other enemy mechs, they just start going crazy, like flying all over the place. I know Yeah, the shield one that we're talking about. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, yeah. That guy will just start zooming across I mean i I don't blame him as fun. I I'd be zooming. Yeah. And then it just like flies forward. It's so I didn't use it that much. I don't use especially every chance I came across I love that one too. Yeah. I didn't even know I could do that. Maybe I did and I just didn't do it. I don't remember. No the very first mech I came across that you were supposed to be able to get in, I just blew it up 'cause I didn't know. Yeah, you do it really easy. I'm pretty sure 'cause like if if you hit it like three times it blows up. It blows up real really quick. Yeah. When yeah, when you're not in ⁓ they're really easy to do. I like Detroit. How I like Nitro is still probably my favorite normal mech that isn't the flyer. ⁓ I don't like the worst part about it is how hard it is to like pick up speed once you start dropping from the jetpack. It's like it's like you it's really you really feel the weight of Mm-hmm. Which is pretty cool that they were able to cool so well. Yeah. And then comparing yourself to the the old little human and he's like like flies super fast. ⁓ there are, I guess, technically three bosses. Is that right? Like three entities that you have to fight as a boss. There's like two times there's like a whitish looking mech, and then there's the big green one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I would count the worms as a boss just because you kind of have to there are three big. Yeah. Worms are annoying but not very hard. They're just annoying because I I had the ball. Especially you have the ball. And I don't like it because it's hard to maneuver when it's easy in my opinion. I really mastered the like launch of it. Bouncing around. Yeah. I don't know. I love that mech. The first time or when I did it is I killed the first one with the ⁓ Prometheus. I just like stood in front of it and just mashed the shoot buttons and just launched pistols in your face and it killed it before it could kill me. That's all you're gonna do is shoot it, shoot it, mission over shoot it, shoot it, you know, just like don't get hit by its big nukes and you're okay. And those are pretty easy to avoid, just like stand in front of it. Yeah, so I'm like, okay, I can kill the first one. Mission over, all right. Right, exactly. If you're in the ball boy, you can't jump first if you're shooting. ⁓ 'Cause you have to switch into the ball mode to jump the third one. 'Cause that's what I did in the in the bottommost worm, I was down in the holes with it and I would just shoot straight forward and I would have a tunnel above me. Yeah. And I would stop shooting and I'd jump when he blasted and then I'd just land and start shooting again. That's what I did. That's yeah, yeah. What I did was wait till the worms were above me and I was below them and I would do the shoot up spin jump ⁓ and hit it. Yeah. And that's how I was 'cause you could damage stuff by doing the Metroid roll basically. ⁓ the other bosses that were like actual mechs, ⁓ the first one like it was f it wasn't that hard. I didn't I took me one try. I don't know what I was doing. That took me that took me quite a tries. That was the one the first time you have the lava, right? Yeah, there's like a guy and then the other one second one's a girl and then the last one's a dude. I got it. That guy took the one with the lava took me probably the most trust. That's what made me I'm pretty sure I cleared it. ⁓ I'm pretty sure I cleared it in one, but I was flying nitro I mean maybe I changed it like a couple health. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I wouldn't that ⁓ hard. I feel like you have to to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. SpongeBob? Yeah. It's like it's just so f it. Well because the second time when you fight the ⁓ woman in the same mech, you have the flying saucer. Yeah, you can I see I thought that one was easier because I just get above her and zoom down and then avoid and easy. I thought she was more aggressive with her attacks and she sh shot a bunch of grenades, which grenades do a shitload of damage. Stupid ass grenades. That's why I hate it. Then the grenades you just you can get killed like instantly. You can block them kind of, but like if they explode underneath you or above you or something like that, they still hit you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they do a ton of damage too. Like a real a huge amount of damage. Lower the damage, but it still damages you. That's crazy. You didn't use the shield. That was like a ⁓ big technique for was ⁓ like everything I'm like ⁓ yeah I just especially the cannons like the cannons would like yeah just stand in front of the cannons block sh shoot. Yeah block shoot like it's a little repetitive but it gets it works. Yeah. It works when you're fighting my mechs fine. When you're fighting the other mechs that have shields, they'll just sit there shield lock you while you're shooting at them and then chicken you gotta wait the ship. Yeah you gotta all I did was hold the bullets until 'cause like Every second or two, like th one bullet's getting through, they'll stop for a second to try to shoot, but you're already shooting, so they'll get hit by a bullet. Again, very repetitive but very effective. Or you just wanted to melee them. Yeah, I was gonna say the real key is running up and meleeing them. Because the melee won't go through the shield. Like I said though, I ⁓ I never use the shield. I never used the little portable kind of shield thing either, the other option. ⁓ where it like places a shield kind of. I love that. I again I didn't think this game was. You can but they won't. I just a lot of that stuff I didn't feel like it was necessary most of the time. The rest of us were playing too much with like all the options you could do. Yeah, it was just And if I got missiles, I would try to shoot the missiles and that was it. And ⁓ I don't you talked about the pickups, which we haven't mentioned again, but like cause Iron Man had them. I picked them up, but I don't remember what I know there was the secret one, which I thought I didn't really like because then I couldn't always hit what I was actually trying to sh yeah because it would go off in wrong direction. No. There were a couple times where it was. There's a bounce one. Yeah. There was burden gravity. There was a moment in one of the last levels where there was a big gun, just like you're supposed to fly up and shoot it and you know, do the thing, and it's supposed to be really hard and take a long time. And I had the seeker, and I just shot up and it was just like doing an L, like a reverse L and hitting it, and I just sat there until It was the second. It's crawling on the surface level. And I just set myself up on a bridge, aim down, shot, and it did. It kind of curved under the building. It was coming in and just so I just took out the second worm that way. Or maybe it was the C worm. But ⁓ Yeah, I don't I don't yeah. Yeah, you're right. Seeker's not too bad. None of those are like super none of them are necessary to finish the game or like even Complete level, I think. Rocket launcher two. It's also nice. There's the gravity reverse. There's like a personal shield. The one that goes around. Yeah. ⁓ there's three levels of actual base gun upgrade, and then there's the bounce shot, the seeker shot. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Then just rockets. I don't know if you're noticing behind me right now because it's playing, but ⁓ that thing where in the jungle level where the ground would fall out from under you is so frustrating. Every every four pixels. Yeah. Cause I thought I was like starting a point where I was gonna trying to game it. I was like, okay, I know it breaks away right here, so I'll stop here and back up and it breaks away. And then I'm I'm using the Prometheus, so I'm making a bridge across the gap, which takes forever because the it's a slow mech. And then you get to the other side and it falls away too. I'm like, ⁓ All right. But ⁓ the final boss again, I thought it was pretty easy. I just cheesed it and it was like I think I cheesed it. Didn't take me more than a couple of tries. Maybe it was one it felt like one. It might not have been one, but I cheesed it by like sitting in the corner and just shooting up when he 'cause he kept flying over you. So I just kept shooting at it. I wanna I wanna talk about what I did with the final boss because I'm really proud of it. I took the Prometheus and I had the ⁓ the shield one. And I took the Prometheus, I set it up in front of it, and I pushed it down the hole, and then I pushed it into the arena. And then I did like half of the boss fight in Prometheus until it like got down to like where I couldn't shoot anymore. And then I got in the other mech. Because I that was my problem. I was like, there's no healing, there is nothing in this boss battle. Yeah. And if you die, you have to start the whole level art over and then get to the Yeah. Cause that's what I was talking about, where ⁓ I tested that like Yeah. I lost in the boss fight and like yeah it takes you back to the start of that level. Just just the ⁓ level part where you like are in the blue area and you kind of have the section. Yeah it's it's it's mostly platforming so it's not that bad. But that's actually kind of there goes one of your five lives for the whole game. Yeah and you're probably on like one or two lives at that point. I was gonna say that section you're talking about is probably the most platformer intensive of the whole game. There's not a lot of platform platforming necessary besides just flying up into a it's more more just like finding where to go. Right. It was very hard part. It got hard. Yeah. I feel like after the ice level it felt like every level was just a maze. Yeah. Those little bomb things that like start tracking you when you hit them on platforms. I hate those things. Those things they hurt you before they even launch the tracker. And then Once they break, they release the tracker and that bombs you too. And it's like God's Yeah, yeah. We didn't imagine. There's a lot of things you have to be careful with when you're flying around as a guy because of just vapor like the green shields, the like plasma cannons that are like blocking areas off. ⁓ if you touch that as A dude, you just like vaporize. Yeah, you're not really meant to play as the the human because you have hit points because it's your number those numbers. I think it starts doing it starts going down. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's a countdown from nine. You can only get shot like nine or t ten times and you die. I think if you get in your mech it heals you. It does. Which is cool, like lore stuff because that's like ⁓ there's some sort of healing. Well, we'll talk about this. Unit in the mech. Yeah. ⁓ You can also shoot through some platforms. That's something we didn't mention, like some metal mesh or metal like walkways. You can blow those up and you have to pretty often to drop down and go. Shoot through walls as well. And there's also like others to stuff you shoot through, like there were a couple levels where they that they went a little overboard with the shooting through the things to traverse the level. Like the city level, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't have my weapon and I would be like ⁓ Man, I could kind of continue forward if I didn't have to like blast through like whatever metal platform I'm standing on right now. By the time I was in the late game, when I got to that point with like not having any weapons, I would just reload a safe state. Yeah, I got to a boss fight one time with no with no weapons. It's crazy. Well I just had to lose. Yeah. It's crazy how games back then Could just so commonly put you in impossible situations. Yeah, where you just are like, Well, I have to start the whole game over because I'm at zero health. I have no weapons again. Yeah. Yeah, because if you have no weapons, you get out and you just get squished by something or it takes nothing to get killed as a as the human. I did like how easy it was for the like there were a lot of times if you just like kept the jetpack on, you could like squeeze between all the big robots and not even get touched. And There were robot. To the other side of that. Yeah. I would I would do that. I would there were a few times where I was able to like be like, man, I'm fucked. But I was like, whatever, maybe let me try to see if I can blast through as a human and like, yeah, I was able to, and I was able to find a mech, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna save State Raider. I don't know what it was, but there was something really fun to me about like Getting out of the mech, being a human and shooting the other humans, you know, just having that human versus human kind of conflicts in a world of mechs. Yeah, that's something I was gonna mention. It's a human story when it gets down. We can probably move on to the personal favorites section and what we would change, but I think that would that's gonna end up being mine is I wish that there was more I wish that the human part wasn't just like I gotta go flip a switch. I wish there was like more to it. Yeah. Yeah. Be cool. But if we want to talk about personal highlights and lowlights, ⁓ everyone say Jay, your favorite moment. it was just like the I guess the the way the levels work to where you have to be the human to, you know, advan you know, like break down a part of the level so you can advance with the robot. ⁓ I just I don't know, for a SNES game it seems really advanced, ⁓ and just smart. Like I don't know. I like the level design and just the little human crevices and having to even though it was minimal, just having to use the human and the robot to work together, even though you're the same person. Perfect harmony. Yes. Perfect blend of man and machine. Just the attention to detail of the game too. Like the amount that's on the I also like the guy's name. Lieutenant Stone. You can change his name. Did you know that? You can change the name in the settings. I named it mine was Lieutenant Creep. So I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I could have been Lieutenant Power. Yeah. Yeah. You guys didn't even explore the options. It's kind of a vague answer to my favorite part of the game, but just the They really thought outside the box with it. Like the ability to have different robots get out as a human. I just think that's cool. That they both had their own abilities and movesets. Yeah. Keith, what about you? What was your favorite moment or favorite thing about the game? I really, really love the presentation. I mentioned before, just like the opening cutscene, ⁓ just like flipping on the switches and like, wow, this is on a Super Nintendo. Like this is in This is incredible. It's like, you know, it's like Super Castlevania, it did also have like some cutscenes and stuff. Those are kind of just like establish a shot and that's it. You know, really like it was like the ending shot of yeah, panning over the image of the castle in the background and he's staring at the sun, you know, stuff like that. Like basic stuff like that, relatively speaking, you know. But compare that to what this is doing on the same system, it's pretty incredible what they were able to do with like even when like In the jungle intro to the jungle level, when they're flying down and they're flying over the water, the fucking waves fucking smash up when they fly over. It's like fuck. This is like Jay said, attention to detail. It's an incredible attention to detail. ⁓ I want a game in that artwork, in the cutscene artwork. I want a whole game like that. Yeah. Yeah. And and the mech designs are cool too. ⁓ the the nitro When I when I first saw the cover of the game, I thought, wow, this looks like the Tizabi from Shara's Kano attack, Mobile Suit Demo. ⁓ I know what you're talking about, actually. I get what you're saying. ⁓ a lot of sick mobile suit or mech designs in this in this game. ⁓ The Ball, which is a just a Joy Deca Lucas. Classic design. Yeah. Yeah, honestly the Prometheus reminds me of mechs from other mech games like Mech Assault or Mech Warrior, you know, like the more like less Gundam style, but more just like big robot with guns with two like yeah, though which is cool. You know, and it's like kind of covering all the bases of yeah, right. Yeah. A lot of different ⁓ a lot of different versions of that. Yeah, so yeah, I just literally love the just all the presentation, the cutscenes and even like the briefing missions where they're all standing around and the fucking there's a big floor map of what they're trying to do. It's like yeah, it's it's all it's all a it's a beautifully made piece of game, piece of business. Gabe, what do you think? My favorite part was I I my favorite part was that like you could be creative with the gameplay. Like no two times playing this game, even with how simple it is, are gonna be the same because of the variabilities of the mechan mechs and stuff. I like my favorite part of the game was taking the Prometheus, pushing the Havoc down for the final boss fight, and then having two mechs in the arena because I thought this is a great solution because ⁓ The first five times or so I lost to the boss, I was like, this would be so much easier if I like had like some kind of health or something. Like, there's no way I can get through this without anything. And then I was like, Well, let me see if I can like cheese getting two mechs in there. And I could. And that was just so cool to be able to do. It's like, okay, I've finished with this mech, let me jump out. And sometimes I would jump out into the second mech and I'd s I'd get blasted or something. Like I'd die as a human. And so That's also just I mean, it's just it's like so much fun. Like I like blast over to the mech, get in real quick, and start blasting again. And it's I don't know. Yeah. It's so awesome. Like the f the final boss fight, like as much as it frustrated me, I appreciated so much that like there was some kind of solution, if you just think outside of the box a little bit. ⁓ you know what pissed me off though? so the b the final boss fight itself has like so many stages. You finally meet the boss and then the guy pops out of the robot and he's like, You'll never catch me alive. And you have to chase him up. I thought you had to like kill him, but all you have to do is get to the nitro before. I think you can kill him though, right? In the heat of the moment I was just like, You gotta be kidding me. Yeah, I actually died at that point because I didn't chase him in time and then like I lost. ⁓ no. He lost the race. He's like, ⁓ fuck you, Lieutenant Stone, and he flies off. Imagine getting to that point, playing in on the Super Nintendo and losing the foot race to get to that Mac and start falling over. And it was your last life. Yeah, that'd be crazy. Like, I was right. Yeah. Beat it. I'm gonna tell my friends I beat it. My favorite ⁓ personally my answer is the same as Keith. ⁓ it's just the way the presentation, the way it looks. ⁓ comparing it to like even Metroid Zero Mission, which we covered or as our first game, it's a GBA game. I was like 2003, right? Obviously has a lot more pixel density in the, you know, the available to it. And this game is like visually at least, aesthetically. Vibes wise on par with Metroid Zero Mission. Like it looks as good and it's not it not can't it's not possible for it to be as good, like as fidelity wise, there's less stuff to work with. And to your point too, there's so much stuff going on screen, like way more stuff that you've never seen a Metroid game. Like at any given moment. It's it's insane. Lots of little little things, little flashing things, little tiny like details, all kinds of stuff. Stuff you can't even really see that well because it's so small. Maybe I should have played on TV or something. But that'd be I I yeah. So the way like Keith said, the visual presentation and just yeah, the cutscenes before every mission, especially the first one. Like when you're like we said, the flipping the switches and you have the briefing room and they're standing over that like floor that's like got it changes every time it's gonna map depending on the level you're going into. And each one is cool every time, and then at the end it's cool too. And it's like the you know, the close up or of the big mech. So, yeah, I agree with Keith. Like my favorite part is just the way it looks, which is like a weird thing to say about a game. Because I like the gameplay too, ⁓ for sure. But like the way it looks is what's gonna make me come back and play it again. I think it really complimented looks yeah, it looks so cool. I can't like this is such a cool I mean, even the titlement screen is behind me right now. It's just like flashing red lights. It's neon neon sign. It's it's sick. I've I'm not gonna lie, I've been watching a lot of the gameplay ⁓ loop. As we've watched the episode just like in the background of your screen, like yeah. I never do that. They show a good amount of gameplay. Like it showed some sphere action going on. I saw some sphere bouncing. Yeah. Which is the actual best part of the game. I never look at those behind myself when I'm like in my own screen when I'm p ⁓ watching this, but I have watched it a couple times while we've been recording this. I feel like our YouTube viewers love it. Yeah. Maybe. Tell us in the comments, YouTube viewers, if you love it or not. Yeah, let us know. Like it's Do you watch us or do you watch the gameplay loop? I'm right. Do you do you look at me fiddle around with stuff on my desk? And if you're only listening on Spotify, go on YouTube and comment anyway. Comment on Spotify is like I can't see it, you fucking asshole. What about your ⁓ least favorite section, Jay? ⁓ least favorite? Probably the ship defense, just 'cause it frustrated me. And then when I figured out what to do, I mean I made up I beat up first try, no problem. But that was just I don't know. ⁓ it didn't feel as in depth and cool as the rest of the game 'cause you're just on one two D plane going back and forth. It was a very short mission. I guess probably part of the story. I mean it was part of the story, it advanced the story. But as a gameplay, you know, as far as the gameplay goes, that was like my least favorite part. I wonder if that was almost like a tech demo for like, hey, check it out. Like here's this other mech. 'Cause you know, you use this only mission I think you start in a different maybe not, but it's one of the only ones you start in a different It is, I think you're right. It's the first one that you don't start. That's Prometheus. And when if someone made it yeah, made the level that was like, ⁓ what if we like here, look, you can see we can use other mechs and they're like, Okay, cool, just turn that into a level, like an actual level in the game. They just slapped it in there as another extra level. But yeah, I guess. Sounds about right. Yeah. Keith What about you? What was your least favorite? Keeps drinking water right I was drink I drink I was drinking water. He watched me drink water, then asked me a question anyway. I love it. Sorry. Shouldn't have been drinking. Could have just rambled. So ⁓ see I can drink because I already had my turn. Yeah, I can drink because it's your turn to answer. Okay, what do you think? Delicious. Yes, I'd say my least favorite part I'd say was the mission six boss, which is the first like actual boss fight. ⁓ because you're in the ball and because I had I had a lot of people. You don't have to be in the ball. See, I didn't know that. ⁓ I actually I looked up a guide and I looked up a YouTube video, like, okay, is this how you end up in this fight? 'Cause like this ball really sucks for this boss fight. And the first video I watched of it, they were in the ball as well. So I'm like, okay, this is Technically doable ⁓ in the ball. So probably a pro player that you're watching too. I don't know. I don't know He's like the ball is actually the best mech for this fight. Yeah. Actually. Ball stretch. It was yeah, so it was really, really real fucking ⁓ gut check ⁓ in this game. I wasn't really expecting. But ⁓ but yeah, it was ⁓ yeah, that really it really pissed me up. I was getting upset. Getting upset. ⁓ And then there's like those parts where you like have to shoot the floor to get the ⁓ boxes that have the power to have healing items in it. ⁓ but with the fucking ball, when you're aiming, you're you can't move, so you're stuck and like you can't like shoot the the shots go through the floor and hits the thing. But also like you have to break every single individual block so that you can fall through, but then As you're getting shot with missiles and a million grenades up your ass, you know. So like I agree with Ryan, ball sucks. ⁓ Yeah, ball sucks. We didn't yeah, but we didn't like land anywhere. Then I fall in the line. That's true. We didn't talk about the actual best part of the game, which is the secret mode where you can ⁓ I'll send a i put it up, Ryan, but ⁓ we'll we'll get you know we'll talk about it in second. It's it'd be a ⁓ a basketball. I didn't know that. I didn't get that. But I didn't or I didn't bate. You got it if you finished but you just didn't get to I think you get to finish without dy without dying having any deaths. So you have to have safe stated ⁓ okay. I I had some deaths. And never lost a life. I did this. I had a I had at least one or two save states where I fucked myself and was like, I'm just gonna take the life. Yeah, I read that's what I read. Maybe it was just finishing the game. ⁓ Yeah, I think we only touched we touched on it briefly, but the The destructible ⁓ environment part Keith was talking about. That part is really annoying because your mech is three tall, but you're shooting straight ahead and you can angle, right? But it's like you have you have to shoot all three to enter. So you're having to sweep up and down. And some people have to shoot like a couple times. Yeah, and then you just be able to enter that area. So it's that's something that's actually pretty annoying. I don't think it should be should have been easier to Super repetitive destroyed. Yeah. Also, if you try to melee them, but you can it like it's Pushes you away. Why why does it do that? I never tried to melee them. I guess I didn't I just swept it. Yeah. My least favorite section, ⁓ my least favorite section was the worm thing, actually. I didn't like the worm. And it wasn't because I know Gabe, you're talking about the ways the methods to do it. Now I wasn't doing it that way. The problem was I just like it took too long for me. It just took forever because my like I messed up the first one and I didn't have that good strat. And I also hated using the ball. So That was just I didn't like that level at all. Yeah. And that was part of the game was that was that section. Gabe, what about you? ⁓ I'm gonna agree with Jay. ⁓ I didn't love the Starship. I I got the hang of it, but yeah, it just it didn't feel like it felt like half a level to me, which is fine. Like but that's not to s I I love the game so much that like it's it's hard to come up with at least favorite section. It's anything. It's in the game as a whole, but when you break it down into parts, that obviously that one sticks out a little more. Yeah. Anything that I had a problem with was just like a brief frustration that I got over once I got past it. Once I figured out like what I needed to do to get past it. And so it's hard to pick a least favorite section. It's such a good game, but ⁓ that would that would probably be it is defending the spaceship. ⁓ Just because it is a little repetitive, walk one way, blast, walk the other way, blast. But I still I still even then I still kind of liked it once I figured it out. So what about ⁓ something you would change, Keith? Hmm. ⁓ I would change the price. I'm just gonna interject here. Cause I think. There's nothing about the gameplay that I would change. ⁓ really good game. It's mega hard, but it's an old game. A lot of old games are mega hard. Maybe I would add like level saves. ⁓ passwords. Just to make it a little less brutal. I know what I would change. Yeah. I would say I would change ⁓ I would make it longer, honestly. I wish there was more of it. That's it. Like I just wish there was more of this game because it's so freaking so much fun. I wish that I wish there was more. I wish there was or at least a sequel. I wish there was a sec more in depth version of more to the getting out of your mech than just like maybe it'd be cool if it was zoom in on your guy and it's a whole separate thing and that like I know that's limited technical limitations. I liked a little human. I thought it was I just thought it was fun seeing it in comparison to everything else around it. 'Cause like these environments are f fucking like it's insane. When you when you jetpack you kind of like bring your knees up so you're kind of in a sitting position. It would have been interesting if they had like different levels of like all mech, all human, and then like mixture of both in some. That'd been interesting if they did that. They should have I wouldn't get rid of all mechs. I would ooh like ⁓ flesh mechs. Yeah, that'd be big human Cronenberg. Big human little robot. ⁓ okay. Yeah. Isn't that space station in Silicon Valley? Kinda. ⁓ almost, but those are robot. It's robot on robot. But yeah, that's true. The animals are only to make ball better. I don't know how, but I loved ball. Nothing about ball needs to change. I understand you can only shoot when you're okay. Yeah. Yeah. If you can only shoot when he stopped, that's fine. That's how droticas work in Star Wars. Pre Star Wars, that those Star Wars movies. ⁓ but yeah, it should just be a faster transition because I make it. Ripped off LucasArts. The ball mech needs a dribble button. Like you basically just dribble it back on the ground. Yeah. Sitting like in the ball mode, and as soon as you hit the button to shoot, it should basically like pop up in less than half a second and then start shooting. Right. It's too long. It was too slow, especially against that boss where it's like Yeah, you're just taking so long to fucking shoot it and with as the ball, cause like in India. And also like no, I don't want to talk about that fucking boss anymore. The greatest tragedy of this game is just there's not there's not more of it. So Yeah. Would you literally physically actually they should have made more That's also true, yeah. Physically there weren't enough copies and also. No. There should have been longer. It's only four hours. We didn't mention it, I don't think, earlier, but it's about four hours worth of game levels. Would you would would would we play it again? I'd play it again. I'd play it again. I'd play it. I'd play it again just to see if I could play it without save states because I know that's gonna be frustrating as hell. There's a multiplayer mode. I'd play it again with some of there is like a versatile. ⁓ my god, we never even got into the multiplayer mode. Well we didn't to be fair, we never got the chance to play it. Keith and I should have like Done better to like it's like a one v one battle mode. Their physical proximity is closer than anyone else. Yeah, that's what I mean is like we could have easily met up and played this game together, but we didn't have multiplayer mode that's like a battle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I slept on his couch as well. I wouldn't really hang out with him outside of work. ⁓ That's actually mostly what I mean is I was living with Keith for like a week after we found out what this game was, and I knew that it was a multiplayer game. You had a brought it up. Yeah, I brought it up while we were there. And he didn't follow through, so really it's gave us all. Don't blame. That's not true. See that as a real possibility actually partially. Can you can you connect your ⁓ PlayStation controller to the Steam Net? Like, I don't know, maybe. And then like, ⁓ we should play. Yeah, you can. And then he left. And he took his dogs with him, so I don't have the dogs anymore. Fucking piece of shit. You can dogs aren't PlayStation control on your Steam Deck though. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I said I think you can do that. You can definitely do it. I don't have a PlayStation. I don't even have a Steam Deck. Yeah, we didn't we didn't Sorry, we can play maybe that'll be a Maybe that'll be our next mini episode is getting together and playing. ⁓ yeah. Playing different battle modes. Yeah. And then talking about that. Play a game of a party and then break up the podcast because we hate each other. I was gonna say play a game of Smash and see test our friendship. I just won't play. That's how we that's how we keep the friendship strong. ⁓ I was gonna say I would definitely play this again. I don't know why. This versus Castlevania. Like I had such a bad time with it versus this. I think it's just the validity of the movement is it's mobility. You don't like that Castlevania is slow. Yeah. You can move so much faster in this game. You can see it behind me. It's ⁓ I have like it's a fast paced game. Castlevania is like dun dun quosh dun dun quw and then like it's so slow. And I don't like that. But yeah, this is fast. That's what I do like this. This feels more like Metroid than Castlevania. did yeah obviously. So ⁓ I would definitely play it again. I will probably start putting it on my handheld devices just to have as like maybe I'll play it sometime. Like I gave I might might actually want to try playing it like Abe said, like straight up, not using save states. I remember the part on your TV in the background and I fucking hated that part. Yeah the electricity it's pretty short. The electricity part, all of a sudden there's like environmental hazards. Yeah. The lava lift where you have to like not touch the lava. I like that. It'll just lower you down into it. Yeah. The most platformer heavy part of the whole game was that part. It was a good I like that section. There should have been more platformer stuff. ⁓ less lava. I think everyone would play it again. ⁓ yeah. For sure. Play it again. ⁓ Jay. If you have the money, you should probably buy it. Like A Jay, you should also probably buy it. It's a good game. Jay's gonna buy it 'cause he's rich, but He's gonna he will probably own it at some point. We can all go in on it for Jay's birthday. I'm not doing that. That's a really heavy list. We need more friends for that one. Yeah. We need more hosts for that. We need to get some more. How about the Patreon? Let's become friends with our viewers. We start a Kickstarter. Get Jay Metalcomor. Have an empty spot on my shelf. Yeah. So anybody have anything else to say about playing it again? I'd play it again. Yeah, play again. All right. Play it again. Yeah. And for you listening, play it for the first time. Yeah. Or if we should if or if you're listening and you've played it before, play it again too with us. Statistically speaking, you haven't played this game before. Yeah. True. ⁓ I think it's time for the creep wheel. Wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel. So here's the creep wheel if you're new to our podcast. Here's this is the creep wheel. there you go. Head over to our first episode. Yeah, head over to episode one where we were spun the creep wheel. It didn't even have this color yet. The OG. It was just a standard color. It didn't have our customer, like our actual customized colors. ⁓ added two new ⁓ games to the list, which ⁓ are psychonauts. Yeah, Psychonauts, which was a replacement for Metal Warriors, and we also have Star Wars Shadows of the Empire for N64. That is ⁓ an Ultra Creep David, that's his edition. ⁓ Don David as he goes by in the Discord. I didn't know that. You know Don David? All right, you guys ready? I always get so excited before the wheel spin. Yeah, me too. This is the best part. ⁓ This is what the pod's all about. Here it goes. Forget the game. I just want more wheels. This is what you're all cutting to at the end of the video. ⁓ man, it's it always slows down on me. It's going really fast this time. It's still going. What is it? Shadow Tower. It's Shadow Tower. Is it? ⁓ it's Shadow Tower. Wait what? Shadow Tower. I thought I took that off. No, you didn't. Now well now it's about to be. Yeah. We dropped down to two for each of us or something. No. ⁓ we dropped down to four. No, we kept our original three on. And yeah. Did we drop from four to three? We always had three. We always had three. Gabe's bit is that he doesn't know anything, guys. So if you're new to the podcast. Yeah, if you're new to the podcast one, you'll see if you still don't know anything. Shadow Tower, okay. It should be hard. Didn't you everyone should Didn't already play this? Haven't you ⁓ I thought you had. I've never heard of this. No, I've never played it. I know the only thing I know about this game is that it's made by FromSoft, who makes like Dark Souls. ⁓ this actually kinda looks neat. I think I've seen this. One second. I just saw something about Shadow Tower and it was not positive. ⁓ that's good. I think this is your Iron Man Nexoman. We all have one. Yeah, look something up. This is this I got something that might be relevant too. Yeah, we do all have one actually. What is Jay's? Space. The only one I've won. I'm up for one so it's a sixteen hours to beat, so don't delay. So I was pretty sure shut up. I was pretty sure that I had seen this before because there's a really popular ⁓ YouTuber in the retro gaming handheld space, Tech Tweeb. I'm pretty sure he covered this game in a dusty his Dusty Game Society video, which is basically what we're doing. Dusty Game Society is the same idea except it's usually it's even less it's even more obscure games. This may have been the one on double checking. ⁓ this is a two point five out of five It was a from soft. It was definitely FromSoft game that he was playing. And a 0.5 out of 5 from official PlayStation magazine. We can't score this lower if we wanted to. Yeah, but it's got a seven point five out of ten on Game Netformer. It was it was Kingsfield, that's the one he played. Three out of ten on CNEC games. EGM gave it a two out of ten. So yeah, we were in So Kings all right. Kingsfield is is also a From Soft game. And I think Actually on the Wikipedia it says Shadow Towers, an action-oriented dungeon crawl, very similar to Kingsfield. Yeah. I'm gonna start Kingsfield features wide, open, and deeply interconnected dark fantasy worlds. Shadow Tower uses a more compartmentalized level by level structure as you descend a single massive tower. I don't know. I like the way I like the vibes of the I like the appearance of it. It looks cool. Yeah. Why did you pick it? 'Cause it was a Fromsoft game. From soft game. Because I wanted to throw some kind of RPG game in there. And I was like, what's a ⁓ obscure RPG game? And Shadow Tower popped up and I said it was From Soft. I didn't pay much attention to the ratings, I was like, Whatever, I'll try it. Guess what, guys? This game is even more expensive than Metal Warriors. Really? This game is how much is it? I'm seeing eight hundred, six ninety nine, seven hundred, nine fifty. ⁓ there's Japanese games going for under a hundred, but I it's region locked, so that's crazy 'cause it's on the PS three for five ninety nine. Really classic. Wow. It's on Gog also. Gog, you know, good old game. Okay. Yeah. And I have to break out the game. This game looks cool to me. I like the vibe of it. Yeah, I'm excited to try it. I mean it looks cool. I don't know if it'll be cool. Right. We'll find out. There's some older monsters in it. Yeah. I d ⁓ I'm looking at Skull Man right now. I'm looking at some weird turn based or you should notice your games. Yeah, yeah. I ⁓ I told you I don't know anything about this game. Literally any research, you know. God. ⁓ that's rated T for teen. Do we have an enumrated game yet? I don't think so. Doom. Doom. ⁓ no, yeah, sorry. Yeah, doom. Doom could almost be T if it's just, you know, the satanic panic thing. Yeah. It's not that. Well there's the The trading card game was also the baseball. That's what I incident. We can't show this to teens. The aggregation score is forty nine percent. That's not bad. That's that's half it's middle of the road. Game informer gave it a seven and a half. That's what I think how you said that. It's like the only good review I've seen. That's yeah. I used to get Game Informer, actually. Yeah, me too. That's the one of the ones I was subscribed to. That's the only one. Yeah, game pro they gave us. Still couldn't stay in business. I wasn't subscribed to Game Pro, but I would always pick it up from this f supermarket when I would go there. I used to have like all of my magazines saved. I don't know where they are now. I'd name actually. I might have ⁓ I've I don't know. Yeah. I know. I'm gonna ask her this weekend. ⁓ Yeah. I have a copy where the w we was called the revolution of one of the magazines. We talked about the PlayStation 3 controller that used to look like the meringue. That was in there too. I'm gonna shoot out a warning here to you guys. It says a common issue for new players is that stat names don't refer to what they might be used for from other RPGs. For example, the strength stat. doesn't affect the character's attack power but their hit points instead. So I would I'd look up that stuff. Strong man. Strong vital man. Strong strong skin. Vital Vital Man. Yeah. I feel like Kiva's gonna hate this because he doesn't like RPGs that much. I like RPGs. Name five RPGs. Name and RPGs. Name five RPGs. Mass Effect ⁓ Mass Effect two Mass Effect three Dragon Age. Mass Effect Dragon Dragon Two Dragon Age In Inquisition. Is Dragon Age two called Dragon Age Two? Dragon Age One is Dragon Age Origins. Origins. And then Dragon Age Two is Dragon Age Two. They all stink. Is that a pre sequel? They all stink. You're you're right. I like Dragon Age two a lot. I like Dragon Age One a lot. I think it's Dragon Age Inquisition I can never get far into. I just doesn't hold my interest. I that's that's like one of my top hours put into a video game is Dragon Age Acquisition. I'd be really Yeah. I just can't get into it. I don't know why. I like Mass Effect, so you would it would follow that I like bio the other Bioware RPTs, but I they never appealed to me. Maybe it was just 'cause it was like generic. It's probably generic fantasy. It wasn't not really. The lore is really interesting actually. There's like the Yeah, okay. No, there's the ⁓ what is the ⁓ what is the underground the deep roads. Yeah But what infection and stuff do you get from there? Dark spawn. Yeah, the dark spawn stuff like that. Doesn't fucking know fake fancy. I haven't played I haven't played Dragon Age in like ten years. But I did I used to like Origins and two a lot. They're good times. Yeah. But then Inquisition came and I was Yeah, I that's like I named six RPGs like that, Ryan. So whatever. You name RPGs that aren't good. Well it says Mass Facts. I do. I do like Dragon Facts. I don't really like Dragon Age two. I'll give you that, but You don't like Dragon Age. Final Fantasy One, Final Fantasy Two, Final Fantasy Three, Fun Master Four, Final Fantasy Five, Fund Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten, Ten Two. Eleven, Twelve, Thirteen, Thirteen Two, ⁓ Thirteen three is a third one of that. This says unlike most RPGs, it does not feature a system of experience points which the player character uses to grow more powerful. Instead, all creatures are non-responnible and every type of enemy killed will raise fixed stats on the player. It's order to increase specific stats a variety of Pokemon, dude. A game also yeah, Jay's gonna love this. Midmax baby shower Shadow Tower is great. That's literally EV training in Pokemon. That's really funny. Interesting. I mean I think it'll be fun, probably. You're probably gonna character drop map. Yeah. It controls probably control wise and doesn't feel clean. Yeah. Bad menus a Japanese game. As I've mentioned many times before. No one seems to think that's a thing but me, but it's true. Real knowers know. Yeah, nobody nobody thinks it's a thing but him, but it is true. I'm the only person with this opinion. One of our one of our ultra creeps also agrees with me. He knows what I'm talking about. I think it's a formatting thing. That's what I think it is. It's just ugly. The UI it's just the It's not maybe it's because it's translated. ⁓ I think it's for next. And it's maybe like harder to make it like it doesn't look as aesthetically pleasing when it's not it's it's in, you know, non Japanese characters. But yeah, I think they're ugly. Anyways, we're getting we're just talking about stuff now. We can go ahead and wrap this one up. This is the rambling part. This is a rambling part. Yeah, always ramble for a bit. If you want to hop over our Third episode, that's where we start rambling a bit at the end. If you're new here, we ramble a lot. We ramble a ton in the first episode. The first episode is nearly three hours long, I think. That is true. Just explaining. We had a lot to say. Yeah. We didn't introduction episode. Mm-hmm. And then just we introduced ourselves. Yeah. And it was in terrible mic quality because we all used headset mics. And it still has a lot of It's it's it's our second most views after Final Fantasy. It's true. ⁓ can only go up so yeah. It is cool we got kind of a like a reverse bell curve as far as views go. It like dropped and then it like started to climb back up and we got Final Fantasy just two hundred. Okay. So if you enjoyed this episode ⁓ Which how could you not? I mean come on. We have fun Hit that like button. Subscribe. Hit the bell icon if you want. ⁓ also check out Spotify if you're an audio listener or if you're listening on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, please leave us a review. Yeah, if you're on YouTube, leave us a comment. Yeah, I guess it's five stars, right? That's how they work. 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What are you You listener. Busted. What did I say earlier on the ⁓ creeping makes me feel good? Feel good. There it is. Hit the music. Woo! Go ahead and play our game of high score game? ⁓ Super Mario Kart. Play that. Yeah. ⁓ try and beat Jay, because Jay's like the king of this Shit, apparently, so no, just pinball. Kevin's got it right. Yeah, right now, Kevin. Right now. Right now he does. Yeah. Have you tried it yet? I haven't tried it yet. I will be getting on that. I'm playing 3D Pokemon. Stay creeping. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, but creeping makes me feel good. Feel good. Feel good.