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Moon Water | ABJ Podcast Truth Behind Illusion · ABJ

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Welcome everybody back to the ABJ podcast Truth Behind
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Illusion. Today we're going to be covering
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moon water, the magic, the myth and meaning of moon water.
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Welcome to the ABJ podcast Truth Behind Illusion, the show where
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we deep dive into the weird and wonderful and wait, people
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really do that moments of pop culture, history and human
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belief. And as always, the show is not
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safe for work or kids. They probably not safe for
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anyone who gets offended by learning about something new as
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well. Tonight we'll be talking about
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moon water. It's trending on TikTok.
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It's been used by witches, alchemists, farmers and healers.
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Some say it's holy, some say it's witchcraft, some say it's
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total fucking nonsense. We'll dive into that today and
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find out where you lie. So what's really going on in
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that glowing jar under the moonlight?
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Let's find out. Trigger warning or content
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notes. This episode discusses
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spirituality, Pagan rituals with witchcraft's history, and micro
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misconceptions around evil or satanic beliefs.
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Nothing here promotes harm. This is a cultural and
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historical exploration. I'm joined today again by with
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Lily from Witchcraft by Lily. Before we get anything, welcome
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back to hanging out with us here again today.
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Make sure you check the links below to follow Lily or follow
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me on all social media. Again, I'm sorry.
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Somehow I lost my face because you.
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Probably covered it. There you go.
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Hello. Yeah.
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So bring that microphone to you, Yes?
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I'm so sorry, here I am. She, we're, we're trying Lily's
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learning mic technique with the wireless mics.
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She she's been a little spoiled. So she's she's learning, she's
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wearing her little hat she made. Be on screen with you When we
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were doing the live streams for like Monday Night Raw and I was
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using a mic more often and then I didn't have to worry about it.
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I will ask a little the question.
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Absolutely. And then we could do it that way
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too, because I don't give a shit people.
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I get messages all the time. I'm just weird.
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Yeah, no, it's not weird. It's being protective.
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Yeah, 100%. I'm weird about it.
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I mean, yeah. So let's get into our first
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little segment here, the origins and early beliefs.
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Now I did the research for all and illusions.
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This is something new for me. I have never done this.
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This is I always let other people do it.
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So if I'm incorrect or I'm wrong or my research is not perfect,
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don't jump down my throat. I'm trying my best.
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OK, we're going to dive into some other older stuff.
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I. Don't know if he's talking to
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you as much as he's talking to me.
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It's. A little bit of both.
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It's a little bit of both. But also too, we're going to be
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diving into some other topics that we've tried before in the
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past on the podcast that people kind of roasted us on.
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I'm looking at you, Aleister Crowley.
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So don't give me cut me a break. I'm trying and these podcasts
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are essentially the entire premise of this is me learning
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about people and things I'm not too familiar with, right?
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And then I can decide if I'm I'm into.
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Things you're interested? In we did talk last episode
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about vampires. I, I, I think I lie in the camp
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where I don't think they're real.
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I didn't really get into that last episode, but I do like the
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pop culture aspect of it. So we're going to learn about
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moon water. This is something I've learned
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since dating you about moon water.
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So I will kind of talk about what I've researched and you you
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would tell people how you make moon water things that you're
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into and then we'll go from there.
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OK. Absolutely.
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All right, origins and early beliefs, the idea.
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Oh yes, yes. So we are recording this on Day
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of the Dead. So we recorded a bunch of
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episodes in one day. So as you guys are watching
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this, it's all done the same day.
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Just because I changed my T-shirt does not mean it's a
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different day change. My beanie, yeah.
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So we do have daily dead candles.
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Last episode we dedicated the two people that we wanted to
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maybe invite them onto the podcast spiritually or in the
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afterlife to come hang out with us and or you can do the same in
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remembrance or you can just come with us in solidarity of wishing
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our past friends good vibes. I guess I don't know where my
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lighter went. It's underneath here.
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So do you want to go first this time?
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Sure, I'm going to actually dedicate this to one of my
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favorite celebrities that passed away, but it's someone that I
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always think about. So this is going to go out to
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Alan Rickman. Wonderful.
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Always. Always I I like him in that
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movie. He's my favorite part of the
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Harry Potter movies. Oh, he was still problematic as
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a character. The character was still
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problematic, but I love he's a great actor.
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Alan Rickman as an actor. The CBGB movie is one of my
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favorite. He was so good in that.
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I'm going to dedicate this one. I didn't really think of it
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because you just kind of hit me with it, so I didn't have it
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fresh in my brain. This is a moon water episode.
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Who do I think would appreciate this or who can I give a little
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dedication to? That's no, I think, you know,
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even if it's not Day of the Dead, I kind of like this of
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kind of shouting just. Remembering someone.
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Just doing just because of the the movie, I think it's good to
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bring up someone's name and remembrance, you know, OK, some
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movie will Coco it, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. I don't think.
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I thought you were talking about a celebrity from a movie.
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That's why. OK.
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Jeez, who's? Are you going off of a
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celebrity? No, I'm trying to think of a
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like a person I know that passed away that would possibly be into
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this, but I don't really know a lot of people that were into
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moon water. I will.
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All right, I got 1. I don't know if they'd be into
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the topic, but just someone who I really, really care about and
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I'm I'm bummed they're no longer here.
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My friend Kelly, I'm not going to get into the last names or
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anything, but she was tragically killed in a car accident way too
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young, left behind one of my best friends, my older brother
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and and and some kids and they're still very young.
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But man, was she, she was the rock like when it came to me and
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the guy's mom, you know, she's no longer with us either.
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I'll probably do another episode for her in the future.
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But she would have not been into any of these topics because she
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was a pastor and everyone was very Christian.
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So I don't even know if Kelly would even be into this stuff.
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But they, they always knew who I was and that I like to explore
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and learn about different things.
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But she was just a great human being, a great person.
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More people. I wish you know, I don't want to
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put out too much personal information about them with last
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names and everything like that. But man, she was amazing.
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She was the closest thing to mom that we had when mom was gone.
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She really held us. She held a lot of people
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together because she was just a solid rock and strong woman,
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just powerful and just the idea of just holding it down.
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So yeah, this one is is for you, Kelly.
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Love you and hope, hope all is well on the other side.
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All right, so let's get into it here.
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The idea of moon water. It'll be fine.
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It'll, it'll, it'll figure itself out.
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The idea of moon water didn't start on TikTok, unfortunately,
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Lily. It began long before.
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Then Dang. It but I think because you're
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you cover your face or you you turn too far.
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But yes, so the idea of moon water, I'll wait till you fix
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your camera. So I'm trying.
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To get it to get. My face back up a little bit.
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You're too close. There you go.
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I. Had to get into the.
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Frame Okay, the idea of moon water didn't start on TikTok.
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It began with the tides for the ancient people.
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The moons pool on the oceans weren't just it wasn't just
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science, it was magic. The moon can move the oceans,
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and surely it can move us. Ancient farmers used the the
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lunar calendars to plant and harvest.
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Middle medieval Europeans collected morning dew under the
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moonlight for beautiful potions or for beauty potions.
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Alchemists inked and inked the moon to silver, the purest
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metal, and believe lunar rays charged matter with purity, and
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folk healers prescribed moon soaked water for fever,
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infertility or spiritual cleansing.
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Over time, these ideas evolved from mythicism to modern
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spirituality, eventually landing on TikTok as hashtag moon water
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with millions of hashtags following.
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So what draws people back to just simple rituals like the
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world being ruled by with? Sorry?
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What draws people back to the simplest rituals like in this
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world ruled by science? Is it faith, Nostalgia.
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Are just humans needing a little bit of magic and this craziness
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that we call the world? I'm, I'm, I think it's a little
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bit of all of it, to be honest. I think that, I mean, as a
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child, I think that I always wanted to believe that magic was
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real from like a fictional standpoint until I realized and
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and sorry, not sorry, I kind of got to an age where I was like
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the Bible's fiction. So why can't magic?
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Like if the Bible is real, then why can't magic be real too?
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And then I kind of just, it was a long, long journey to where I
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got to where I was, but kind of like finding my own faith with
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it. Like I think that I found the
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getting into astrology, like there is a lot of science into
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it and there is like tracking where the stars are and where
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the moon is and the different phases of the moon and things
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like that. And it was, it's kind of is like
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everything is in a cycle and everything happens in a cycle.
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And I was noticing like certain under certain moon phases, I'd
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be happier and other certain moon phases, like my depression
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would come back harder and things like that.
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And it, it seemed kind of silly, but then at the same time it was
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really making sense. And I kind of that like just
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dove deep, dove into it and I went off with it.
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And I think that me personally, I use moon water and a lot of
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different things. I was using moon water in my
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plants and noticing that my plants were looking healthier.
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I was putting moon water in my bath to shut up.
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Don't even make that face. Here we go.
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Here we go. Her plans are just thirsty and
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she just remembered to feed them because the fucking moon told.
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Her. But maybe it's what I charged,
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maybe because the moon was or because my water was charged by
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the moon and the crystals and everything else I put in my
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moon. Yeah, maybe it was the minerals
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in the crystals that I put into my moon water.
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It's very possible, yeah. But I was also putting moon
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water into like I would make moon water without any oils or
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herbs or anything like that. And I would cook with it or I
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would like, I would meditate with when I would make my tea in
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the morning and I would put like a little bit of my water in my
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teapot. And I would just like as I'm
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stirring my tea bag in my tea, I would meditate.
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And I would say the same thing when.
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We're over. Right.
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Absolutely. But like it felt better.
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My tea tasted better to me. Like, do you know what I mean?
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Like it it, it just made me feel better.
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Yeah, I don't mind people's spirituality or doing this or
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people latching into like on TikTok of people finding these
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different things. The world's scary, the world's
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terrible. The world's full of people
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trying to con everybody and trying to do all this thing.
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So if if someone if it gives someone a little escape on for
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it. But I, I do struggle when it
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comes to people using this as like the snake oil salesman
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stupid shit are like I don't mind if people listen to tarot
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card readings or if you want to go to a medium or you want to go
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to a psychic, live your life. But also like you have to also
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kind of be careful that people are just doing this possibly for
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money and they could be steering you the wrong way.
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And you should take it with a grain of salt.
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Don't base your life off of someone's opinion because they
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they have some mythicism that they say they may or may not
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have. That's where I get a little
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confused where someone's like, hey, I know you're going through
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this really horrible disease or mental health problem, but hey,
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here's some moon water. It'll fix you.
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Like no, you should probably still.
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It's going to say it's going to fix you, but it's like, hey,
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maybe this sort of help you feel a little.
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Bit sure, if you're going to use it as a maybe a little bit of a
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mental, the mind stronger, the mind is stronger than you think.
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And if this gives you a little bit of a mental boost to make
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you feel good, awesome. But maybe don't throw away your
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prescriptions or what your doctors are saying.
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And I think sometimes people get a little too caught up.
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And I think, yeah. So I will say that I do think
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that there are maybe I don't want to say that anyone one
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person's disease is any less severe or more severe than
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others. However, some symptoms can be a
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lot more severe than others. And I would say that people who
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are having symptoms that or maybe having, I don't know what
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the ailments of something that can't be seen.
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Yeah, try moon water. Maybe it'll help you feel
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better. Maybe it won't.
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Well, here's. But if it if it is something
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that you're like, hey, I'm on prescription drugs and I've been
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on these prescription drugs for 19 years and somebody told me to
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try moon water and throw everything else away.
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Maybe don't, maybe don't. Maybe don't.
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Do that just. Yet right Consultant.
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Professional and then see where it goes, yeah.
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The lady. The lady who lives out of her
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van next to the Walmart. Should you just add the moon
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water to that already? Sure.
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So moon water around the world, India, the Hindu traditions, the
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moon water deity Chandera. Chandera.
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Chandra. Chandra, thank you.
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Representation of emotion, fertility and nourishment.
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During festivals, worshippers drink the water after gazing at
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the moon for blessings. The sacred nectar armarite is
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mythically connected to the moonlight, divine and life
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giving. The indigenous of North America
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tribes named each moon after nature.
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Wolf, strawberry, corn to be some examples.
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Moon blessing water was sprinkled on crops the sick for
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healing or balance. Some used it to bless newborns,
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connecting lifestyles to lunar cycles in ancient Greece and
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Rome, Artemis and Celine, the goddess of the moon tied to
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purity, fertility and water. So it's kind of wild that like
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Greece and Rome use the moon for fertility and purifying and also
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India and they didn't have phones or.
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Well, that's going to like. But that's also because the
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woman's body mimics the moon cycle.
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A menstrual cycle is 28th 28 days long, which or a typical.
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It's just cool to me how cultures kind of.
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But I think that. Think the same way to kind of
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figure that. Out the moon was always
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worshipped like it was a it was a it was a deity in many
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different cultures as well. Sure, but you have to also think
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with. Not just.
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Zero communication between cultures.
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And they found the same way of, hey, this connects to this and
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we should try this. The moon gives us this 100%.
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Yeah, I think it's kind of cool. Hectate.
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The goddess of which Hectate? The goddess of whichever.
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Yeah. Received liberations at
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crossroads. Thank you.
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Water, milk and wine. If I fuck up a word, please jump
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right in and correct me, because I don't.
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I'm still I'm. Once again.
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I'm also learning China. The Moon Festival celebrates yin
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energy, cool, balanced and feminine.
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Once again, it's linking it up. Taos the Moon.
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Charged water is the way to balance inner energy during
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meditation. Easter.
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Taoism. Sorry, I was.
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Catching up Taoist. Thank you.
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Middle Eastern folklore moonlit do was collected for love or
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luck, charms folk believed and not religion, but emphasizing
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romance, not evil. Across cultures, moon plus
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moonlight equals purification. The details differ but the
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symbolism is the same. Reflection, renewal, and rhythm
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So what do these traditions tell us about the human connection to
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cycles, lunar or like otherwise? We kind of kind of touched on
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that there a little bit of just like linking femininity to the
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moon and lunar cycles and. Well, so yeah, as I was saying,
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I, I think that a lot of things as far as women's bodies go
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actually mimic the moon in in the moon cycle in lunar phases
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as well as like the seasons do as well.
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The seasons change with the moon, as you were saying, with
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the each moon was given a different name, the harvest moon
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and the corn moon and things like that.
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But the lunar cycle is also very much the driving force of how
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our crops were grown as well. Like it's not just when the
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sunlight's going, but it's when the eclipses are going and when
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you're able to harvest within that.
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Like a lot of life is given by the moon.
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Yeah, well, let's get into our next segment, which is
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practically useless. Throughout history, from beauty
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to blessings, moon water uses evolved.
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I'm sorry. Moon water uses evolved with
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human needs. Ancient Greek women washed in
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moonlight do for eternal beauty. European herbalists used it to
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cleanse wounds. Farmer sprinkled it on seeds
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before planting. Victorian spiritist,
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Spiritualist. Use it in seances for clear
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communication. Today it's rebranded for more
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modern self-care. Add to baths, spray and room for
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cleansing energy drink small amounts for mindfulness water.
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Plans for growth base use in skin care or yes, cocktails in
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moon water and ice cubes, a beer company that we support uses
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yeah, intention and some, I don't know why they use moon
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water, but they use intention and stuff like that with their,
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with their beers. Pillar, Uber and company.
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Alyssa is very much into that as well.
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I think it's a cool little element that people may not even
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realize when they're indulging, which I think is kind of fun.
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She actually is someone who I I was kind of, because I know
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there are a lot of skeptics out there.
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And as you were saying before of like, yeah, you could, anyone
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can just throw water in a bottle and say it's moon water.
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And I did something to it and whatever.
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I was very like hesitant. I when I had my first
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marketplace that I was going to sell my moon water and Alyssa
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was, I was working at Pillar Guru and that's where I had my
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first marketplace and I was talking with Alyssa and I was
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showing her everything that I brought in and I was going to
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give her a bottle just because I worked with her.
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I love her and her and another friend that comes in there all
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the time, Sam, I had had bottles set to the side for them and
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then bottles that I was going to sell as well.
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And I was like kind of doubting myself.
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Like, I don't know if it's really you're pretty.
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Much just selling the cost of the bottle.
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Yeah, yeah. But yeah, basically you're.
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Just making your money back on the bottle.
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But I also wanted to give that energy out like that's kind of
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like, you know, and my my business name is Witchcrafts by
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Lily. That is kind of what I market
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is, is fashion stuff, but things that are witchy in nature.
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Until Alyssa kind of was like, yeah, absolutely do it.
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And when I was like showing her like the intentions I put into
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it in the crystals and things like that, she was like, you
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know, you, you've definitely got like, you know what you're
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doing. You're not just putting water in
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a bottle and like, you know, kind of like lifting me up with
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it, Which I think is another really big aspect of moon water
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is like, it isn't really like there isn't really anything of
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like using moon water to hex your friends, you know, whatever
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enemies or anything like that. You kind of just use dirty water
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for that. It's not blessed water like
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it's. It's a very positive thing.
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Whether it's science or symbolism, people find a comfort
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in ritual, reputation, reputation, repetition,
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repetition. This lot dyslexia kicks in every
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now and then. And This is why it's getting me
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more practice in reading and reading out loud.
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And you're doing a psychological anchor in chaos.
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So let's just jump right into the 4th segment because we got
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did kind of talk a little bit there.
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Is it evil or satanic Lily? Let's clear this up.
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Moon water has nothing to do with Satanism.
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It is not rooted in Satanism. It's not based in anything of
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evil intention. Modern Satanists, Lavey or
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Athistic don't practice this. It's it's Pagan and folklore
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ritual centuries older than the concept of Satan itself.
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The evil label came from centuries of misunderstanding
21:44
anything labeled witchcraft. So kind of a thing with your
21:47
business too. Like the people think
21:49
witchcraft, they think it's going to be spooky and bad and
21:51
it's doesn't need to be that way.
21:54
Midwives, herbalist and healers were persecuted for using
21:57
natural remedies before we had modern technology and modern
22:02
science and modern medication. Even still, modern medication is
22:05
used based on some herbalism and and pulling things from nature
22:10
and extracting the enzymes in the DNA and the characteristics
22:15
to put into medication to help people.
22:17
So it's not evil, it's it's science.
22:20
It's it's it's you know what I mean?
22:23
That's why people are like all they're putting GM OS in food.
22:25
No, they found out that if you put certain things in things,
22:28
you can make people things bigger or grow faster or produce
22:30
more to feed more people like it's not evil, it's science.
22:34
I'm. Trying to remember the exact
22:36
quote from the first Thor movie where he's talking about like
22:41
you people call this is witchcraft and this is science.
22:45
And he's like, but I come from a world where they're one in the
22:48
same. And I'm like, that really is how
22:50
it is, though. Moon water equals feminine
22:53
nature based nonvirate spirituality, the the opposite
22:58
of evil. So a historian quote is in
23:01
medieval Europe what we now call witchcraft was also just women
23:08
medicine. The devil got credit for
23:10
anything the church didn't control.
23:16
So does it really work scientifically?
23:20
Moonlight is reflected sunlight. It doesn't change the water's
23:25
molecular structure. Molecular structure.
23:27
Psychologically, rituals have real power.
23:31
They activate focus, calm and self belief.
23:34
Believing in a process, even symbolically, can reduce
23:38
anxiety, improve clarity and that's the placebo effect doing
23:43
its job. The once again, the idea of the
23:45
placebo effect isn't always negative.
23:48
If I can talk you in as a coach to self belief and feeling
23:53
strong and feeling confident to go out and win the game.
23:56
You may not be the bigger a better a stronger athlete that
23:59
day, but you came into the game with a better mind state than
24:02
your opponent, and you're a good mind state and your clarity and
24:05
yourself belief can outweigh physical characteristics against
24:10
your component. So yeah, 100% spirituality.
24:15
Moon water connects people to natural rhythms, reminding us
24:18
that we are a part of cycles beyond our control.
24:22
A a quote style note. Magic isn't about breaking
24:25
physics, it's about giving meaning to physics.
24:29
So for our discussion here, does it matter if something
24:33
scientifically real if it gives it real comfort or focus?
24:37
I don't think it matters. Does it matter?
24:39
I don't think so. It's like, you know, OK, hold
24:44
on, wait, maybe it does. It depends on what we're talking
24:46
about. But.
24:47
Everything in moderation are in the right context, right?
24:51
Yeah, I think that when it comes to.
24:55
Once again, if you're on antidepressants, keep them.
24:58
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But like I said, I think that
25:01
like even as you were saying before in or as I was saying
25:06
before when you're talking about doing witchcraft and I won't go
25:09
into how to do hexes and things like that.
25:12
But for the most part, everything that moon water is
25:16
used for is used for positivity and whether it's actually
25:19
working in a molecular structure being changed or anything like
25:23
that. OK, maybe the molecular
25:26
structure hasn't changed. It is still H2O in the in the
25:30
container. Which is not bad for you.
25:32
Right, right at the end of the day.
25:35
But but at the end of the day, like if, if it makes you believe
25:38
in it a little bit more and it's giving you a little bit more
25:40
positivity, who's it hurting? But also don't cuvee stuff and
25:44
just be like hey here's some shit from my kitchen that may be
25:47
toxic, I'm going to put it in there and put the intention that
25:49
it's good for. Me and that's.
25:51
Research whatever you're putting into your body.
25:53
We haven't gotten into how I make my stuff, but when we do
25:57
get into that, I will I'll talk about that a little bit more.
26:00
But I do go into research before I I say, OK, like, yeah, this is
26:03
stuff you can put into a drink or whatever, whatever.
26:06
Like I make sure that herbs or any oils or anything that I put
26:11
into my stuff is food grade. Just specifically to make sure
26:14
that in case somebody does decide to put it into a drink,
26:17
it might not taste the best, but it's not going to poison them.
26:20
Yeah, well, let's get into that ritual recipes menu here.
26:23
So moon, new moon intention tea, if you want to try that is
26:29
start, start fresh Rosemary plus mint in clean water.
26:33
Leave overnight. Drink while journaling for new
26:35
goals. So there you go, Waxing moon,
26:39
growth elixir, silver bowl, basil leaves.
26:44
Charge it while planting or working on new projects.
26:46
Use a few drops on the wrist before work or performance.
26:51
So I'm sorry, what was the first one you did while you do this?
26:53
New Moon intention TI. Am going to I'm going to read
26:57
you what other things that you could make moon water for under
27:01
that under that phase if that's OK.
27:04
So you started with New Moon, right?
27:07
Well, these are just I I have a whole segment on.
27:09
The moons too. Oh no, wait, I'm.
27:11
Sorry, not very full moon beauty and power.
27:14
Water, rose petals plus honey. Perfect for baths.
27:18
Face sprays are self love rituals, Waning, waning, waning
27:25
moon release spray water plus sage plus black salt mist in
27:30
your home or workspace saying that you're ready to let go.
27:34
Eclipse, shadow brew, Obsidian, nearby Mugwort are is optional,
27:40
used for meditation or shadow work.
27:42
Powerful in perspective and not for casual use.
27:47
I I def again I did this. I'm so sorry my face doesn't
27:56
want to stay. Is it too much purple light on
28:00
you? It might be.
28:00
Turn your light towards the wall more and maybe put it more
28:04
behind you, I don't know. Don't turn it that way.
28:06
Turn it. Well, that was actually perfect.
28:09
Like move it back towards your seat more so it's more behind
28:12
you. It's more of a backlight and not
28:13
in front of your face. Yeah.
28:16
We'll get there. We're.
28:17
Figuring out, sorry, I don't know where we were just at.
28:19
Your bottle with the mugwort. Oh yeah, this actually had
28:22
mugwort in it. Mugwort, sorry.
28:24
And I was using it eucalyptus and mugwort for renewal
28:27
energies. Yes.
28:29
Also pro tip here, never drink water that's been left open
28:34
outside unless it's clean and sealed.
28:36
Safety first, magic second. Yes.
28:41
All right. But I always make sure my
28:43
bottles are sealed. The bottles that I put them in
28:47
even have a gasket in them so they have that airtight sealed.
28:53
So we're going to go into the lunar cycle ritual planner.
28:56
So I'll give some moons and then you can add on to it for each
28:58
one. Sound good?
28:59
All right, So phase, phase energy slash ritual.
29:03
So I have new moon is to set intentions intention T.
29:08
So the only thing that I ever have for a new moon is for
29:10
setting intentions. I'm not going to.
29:13
I'm not going to say that there aren't other things that you can
29:15
do under a new moon, but me specifically, the only thing I
29:18
use a new moon for is setting intentions for the next month.
29:22
OK, Waxing moon growth and attraction growth elixirs.
29:27
So depending on what phase we're in of waxing, if it's a waxing
29:31
Crescent moon, I use that for fresh energy to conceptualize,
29:35
to focus on detail. And then if it's a waxing
29:38
gibbous moon, which is really, really full, almost a full moon,
29:43
it's I use that more for patience and nurturing, like
29:49
just focusing on what I what I need to do to grow and like what
29:53
I need to do to nurture myself. Gotcha.
29:55
OK. Full moon celebration and
29:58
clarity, beauty, water. Peak energy, joy and gratitude.
30:03
Things that I'm grateful for and things that I'm celebrating.
30:07
But also, so when your new moon is setting intentions, the full
30:14
moon is the complete opposite. So I also use that as I'm doing
30:17
my celebration of everything that I just did for the last
30:20
month and I'm letting it go. OK, so new moon is what?
30:24
The new moon is when it's empty, it's dark, there is no moon
30:27
there, you can't see the moon. Waxing is when it's Crescent on
30:30
to the right. Waxing is when it's getting
30:32
bigger, and waning is when it's getting smaller, coming closer
30:35
to the new moon. When it's getting bigger, it's
30:37
getting Waxing is getting closer to the full moon.
30:39
Waning is getting closer to the new.
30:41
Moon, but it's it's coming from the right to full, and then dark
30:45
is coming from the left to full. It's coming from left to right
30:51
fullness, and then it goes from fullness to dark.
30:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to new. Yeah, just just giving people a
30:59
visual. Because I'm sorry, I'm like
31:00
trying to like. If you're like me and you're
31:02
like, I don't know what any of that means.
31:03
I'm trying to give a visual representation.
31:04
For so in days wise of the lunar cycle is 28 days which is 4
31:10
weeks. So let's say I'm actually, I
31:13
think the full moon is later this week.
31:15
I'm not certain on the exact date, but let's say that for
31:18
instance, today is Sunday. Let's say today is the full
31:20
moon. In exactly 2 weeks, it will be
31:23
the new moon. It'll be 14 days.
31:24
That'll be halfway through the lunar cycle.
31:26
You should put more of this on your content for your page too.
31:29
We'll get there. Yeah, tag team that, then I'm
31:31
trying. I'm just trying to help out.
31:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Waning moons, which is pretty
31:36
much full, but now just kind of coming from the other direction,
31:38
correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:40
Yeah, release and reflection. Release spray.
31:43
So I have a waning gibbous moon, which is when it's the biggest,
31:46
starting to get small again for my release and servicing,
31:50
nurturing others. So the waxing gibbous, as what
31:55
we're saying, when it's getting bigger, coming closer to the
31:57
full moon is more for nurturing myself.
31:59
And then whenever we start going in the opposite direction, I'm
32:02
focusing more on what I can do to nurture others.
32:04
What's our moon right now? I'm not certain.
32:07
I don't look at it today, but a waning Crescent is also where I
32:11
do my rest and restore and reflection.
32:14
And that's like when we're getting right back to we're
32:17
coming right up back on the new moon, which is where we're going
32:20
to set the intentions. So at the waning Crescent moon,
32:23
that's when I'm really looking at like, what all do I need to
32:25
reflect on for the past month and where do I need to set my
32:28
intentions next? And then upcoming new moon.
32:30
So right now we're in waxing gibbous, gibbous gibbous.
32:33
It's approximately 79 to 80% of the moon is illuminated.
32:37
This is a phase between the first quarter and the full moon,
32:40
meaning the moon's getting closer to a fuller moon each
32:43
night. The next full moon will occur on
32:46
November 5th. Right, later this week.
32:48
Yeah, I was right. Anyway, Yeah, so right now would
32:51
be the waxing gibbous. Today's November 1st for people
32:54
listening and later on. So right now, if we were to make
32:58
moon water, that moon water is what I would be using to nurture
33:02
myself. So right now would be more going
33:05
for. We're getting closer to that
33:08
full moon. So right now it's growth and
33:11
attraction. Well, yeah, so, well, you said
33:15
during waxing, waxing in general, but for the gibbous,
33:19
the gibbous moon in general, I use that specifically as time
33:23
for me to nurture in myself and focus on my patients.
33:26
Got you. Dark Moon, rest and renewal.
33:31
Yeah, new moon, Dark moon. Rest and renewal journal.
33:35
Meditate. And that's when I set my
33:37
intentions and meditate. Yep, and then eclipses
33:40
transformational and shadow brew.
33:44
So eclipses are when I cry the most because yeah, basically I
33:48
will do, I do a lot of rituals during eclipses.
33:51
Like that's like a all day thing affair for me when I do do them.
33:57
I haven't done one in a bit but that's like wake up in the
34:01
morning before. Feeling like no no.
34:07
No waking up before the sun rises on an eclipse day.
34:11
And I like start everything like I'm, I'm a hey, we got to get
34:15
up. We're going to smoke and
34:16
meditate and then we're going to do different little rituals
34:20
throughout the day during eclipses.
34:21
And then at the end of the night, or well, not necessarily
34:23
the end of the night, could be in the middle of the day,
34:26
depending on when the eclipse hits.
34:27
Then I'll do a specific meditation during the eclipse.
34:30
Gotcha farmers follow this pattern.
34:32
Artist too. Even modern business planners
34:35
talk about cycles. The moon reminds us to pause,
34:38
plan, act and reflect. So psychological of
34:43
psychologically a psychological of the ritual humans brave
34:48
meaning when science can't control comfort of the soul
34:52
ritual steps in psychologist note the small repeat repeated
34:57
actions like lighting candles are prepping moon water reduces
35:01
anxiety and boosts his mindfulness.
35:03
It's meditation disguises magic. The jar becomes a mirror, not
35:07
the moon but of yourself and then modern pop culture and calm
35:14
of magic. Moon water has gone from alter
35:16
ritual to Internet meme. Millions of TikTok videos, Etsy
35:21
best Etsy sellers selling bottles charged of moon water,
35:25
celebrities posting full moon baths.
35:30
It's it's a blend of commerce and spirituality, just like
35:33
astrology apps and crystals. People want connection and the
35:37
capitalism will happily sell it, so be careful where you're
35:41
getting it and maybe learn how to do it yourself, right?
35:45
Absolutely I would. Absolutely encourage you to do
35:48
it yourself. As I was saying before, as you
35:50
were saying before, when I was talking about selling my little
35:53
bottles, I was selling these bottles, I think for like $5 a
35:56
bottle. I saw people during during like
35:59
solar eclipses, lunar eclipses that were doing like a gallon of
36:05
of water and being like, oh, I had this charged for under the
36:10
under the eclipse and now it's $300.00 for the gallon and
36:14
you're like, no, are you kidding me?
36:17
Are you? I don't know that I trust that.
36:19
I don't know that I would trust that.
36:21
Make it yourself. Learn how to make it yourself.
36:22
It's not that difficult. All you have to do is have good
36:25
intentions. And once we'll talk towards.
36:27
The closing on this, but there's there.
36:30
Speaking of full moon, look at that big booty as my mom walks
36:33
through. She always trying to steal the
36:36
fucking spotlight. In 2022, Google searches for how
36:41
to make moon water spiked by over 600%.
36:46
So people are people are into it, they're learning.
36:48
I hope it's called the Great Awakening.
36:50
We. Should have this podcast 2022 I
36:52
would. I'd have more subscribers
36:54
anyway. Maybe you should start using the
36:55
moon water. We're going to I'm down for
36:57
anything. At this point, I'm nine years
36:59
in. I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I want to
37:00
build a community. We're almost three years into
37:03
the relationship. Start using the moon water.
37:05
Yeah, the symbolism and the. Legacy at its heart, moon water
37:09
is a reflect, A reflection ritual, not about chemistry.
37:13
It's not about connection. When you set a jar onto the
37:16
moon, you're joining thousands of years of humans who looked up
37:20
and said the light moves me. You're you're sinking with
37:24
nature, emotion and imagination. That's not witchcraft, that's
37:28
humanity. All right.
37:30
So, yeah, so little quick bonus segments here actually, no,
37:38
that's not what we're going to do.
37:39
Lily, plug your business. Let's talk about that.
37:43
I have this crochet business. Well, I have a business.
37:46
It's called Witchcraft by Lily. I would say that I mostly do
37:51
crochet projects like this cute little.
37:55
I'm going to take my headphones off here for a second.
37:58
I made this cute little cat ear. I think I'm going to call it a
38:01
familiar beanie. And if you want to know what a
38:03
familiar is, stay tuned because I think we're going to be next
38:05
episode on that soon. But it is a little Kitty cat
38:11
beanie. But I'm making scarves and hats
38:14
and jackets, and I also repurpose clothes.
38:18
Do you think you can integrate? These moon cycles and moon water
38:21
into sprays and what we've talked about to make your
38:24
product set intention and then use it on the product for
38:27
people. It's like, hey, this is a beanie
38:29
I made, but also it's been sprayed with the waxing moon
38:31
intentions. I will say no.
38:34
And the reason that I say that is because if I'm doing it just
38:39
as a I don't know, I don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
38:43
won't say no, I won't say a hard no on that.
38:46
But for the most part, when I'm using, we'll get into how I, I
38:50
don't know if we're still going to get into that on how I make
38:53
some things. But when I make certain things,
38:57
let's say that I have the, I'm using something on the intention
39:00
of love. I'll use rose petals and I'll
39:04
use rose quartz. And because it's, those are all
39:07
things that embody love or they, they symbolize love, but it'll
39:11
have the scent of rose and maybe somebody doesn't like the scent
39:15
of rose. So I wouldn't necessarily spray
39:17
my stuff with it, but maybe I would sell it in little spray
39:20
bottles that if you want to do that on your own and like, let's
39:23
let's get into how you make stuff.
39:24
OK, so. Usually on a I make I mostly
39:29
make my water during. You can use and.
39:34
I actually. Left my I have.
39:38
AI have a silver pitcher in the other room that I'm using
39:41
whenever I'm bottling my moon water.
39:44
But for my moon water, this is this is what I use right here.
39:50
So as we said, sealed water. So you get a full bottle like
39:56
this sealed unopened. And I, our bedroom is on the 2nd
40:02
floor. So do you know what I do?
40:05
I don't go all the way outside. The importance of moon water is
40:08
that it's charging under the moon, right?
40:10
So you want to get it, you want to put it outside when it's dark
40:13
already, and you want to bring it back inside before the sun
40:16
hits it, K. I am not a person who is going
40:22
to go outside, especially in Pennsylvania.
40:24
She's not waking up early either.
40:25
I am. Waking up early so.
40:27
What I do is on the 2nd floor, I have my bottles of water like
40:31
this. However many bottles I want to
40:33
put out that night, let's say it's 3 or 4, I actually have a
40:36
little miniature shopping basket and I'll just put all of these
40:40
in the basket and I put the entire I open the window and I
40:44
take the entire basket and I leave it sit on the roof.
40:47
And then I wake up the next morning when he wakes up for
40:50
work. He usually wakes me up before he
40:51
leaves, gives me a kiss goodbye, whatever.
40:53
I open that window back up and I plop it back inside before the
40:56
sun comes out. But and as she goes back to
40:59
sleep and she's late for work. Yeah, pretty much.
41:03
Pretty much. But whenever I.
41:05
Am then making bottling my moon water.
41:09
What I'll do is, So what I'll do is I'll charge as much water as
41:12
I want, 3 bottles, 4 bottles, 6 bottles, however much I want, I
41:16
leave it in the plastic bottles. And then when I want to, when
41:19
I've decided what I want to use it for, if I want to use it for
41:23
different intentions, then I'll bottle them separately.
41:27
So maybe I only want to use half of this bottle for with a scent
41:32
in it, with intentions in it for love or self love or reflection
41:36
or whatever it may be. And the other half of the bottle
41:39
I'm going to use to make my morning coffee.
41:41
So I don't want it with those things that are going to be
41:44
toxic to me to drink. But whenever I do decide to
41:49
bottle it with different intentions, what I usually do is
41:52
I have our candles on it right now.
41:54
So I'm not going to move it. But when I usually do bottle it,
41:57
I have a whole meditation ceremony that I do and I'll pull
42:02
out my tarot cloth. I pull out my tarot cards and I
42:07
do a reading kind of as a grounding exercise for myself.
42:11
And then I set my intentions into it.
42:13
I'll meditate for a while and make sure that I'm just, I'll
42:18
even you're well aware that once I've started, I'm like, you'll
42:21
leave me the F alone. Don't talk to me for the next 20
42:24
minutes, half hour, whatever it is, just leave me alone.
42:27
I'm about to do my thing, but I'll set that intention for the
42:31
entire time that I'm doing it. So I have my little mortar and
42:35
pestle here. I have a couple of different
42:39
herbs, like I was talking about roses before I use rose petal
42:44
hips and things like that. I just get these that go to your
42:47
local stores, your local farm stores, gardening stores, herb
42:52
stores, things like that. And you'll, it doesn't
42:55
necessarily have to be a, a witch supply store, But so if
43:00
I'm, while I'm doing my intentions, while I'm doing my
43:03
meditating, I'm, you know, I'm using my mortar and pestle here
43:08
and I have my little herbs inside and I'm crushing them
43:11
into it. And I'm thinking of my
43:13
intentions the entire time that I'm doing it.
43:15
I have my different crystal set out for whatever reason,
43:19
whatever intentions I'm trying to put into it.
43:21
But I also went and bought a bunch.
43:23
I don't know if we're going to be able to show these, but I
43:27
bought a bunch of itty bitty like crystal chips.
43:30
I don't know if we can kind of see that little crystal chips
43:34
and I would put these they're small enough that I can actually
43:37
put them into the bottle with my intentions too.
43:40
So I add different oils, like I said, depending on what I what
43:45
my intentions are with them. And I have like little funnels
43:50
even for depending on what size bottle I'm putting them into.
43:53
But like I said, it's the most important thing is keeping them
43:57
sealed for your for your health, health purposes.
44:01
You don't want to get any contaminants into it.
44:04
But then like I said, another thing too, when I'm doing my
44:07
herbs, I don't leave them in there for a long periods of
44:10
time. Like I'll I'll put them in right
44:13
before I'm about to use them. But that's for me.
44:16
You do what makes you happy. So how did I do?
44:18
I think you did. Really good, honestly.
44:20
I think you had a lot of good points and I was, I think that
44:28
I've been more nervous about truth behind illusion because of
44:31
how skeptical that I think you're going to be about it.
44:34
But I think that for someone who's super skeptical, you did
44:38
very well presenting it and not in AI.
44:42
Don't I don't think that you were going to be disrespectful
44:44
about it in the first place. I mean, in the past I've I only.
44:47
Get disrespectful when I I truly question people's motives or if
44:51
I question like like there's I guess around the time truth
44:56
behind illusion was really popping off is the Q Anon time
44:59
and it was very based in like fear mongering and political
45:05
nonsense and people got hurt from it.
45:08
Like it led to people lashing out and hurting each other.
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It led to people using car bombs and and like, you know what I
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mean? Like it was generally like
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people reading heard from these conspiracy theories and these
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thought processes. And, and we're still kind of in
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that where there is a little bit of attack on spirituality.
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And, and I hate to be that guy to say like this is my opinion.
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It's not maybe it maybe it's not your reality, but I feel like
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the Christian base is playing the victim of like they feel
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like they're being oppressed because they can't live their
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beliefs and they're actively going after it, attacking other
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people for their beliefs. And it's just kind of, are there
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a lifestyle, are there where they want to do things that's
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not hurting anybody, you know what I mean?
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And so I do struggle with that or like, I think grief is a very
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powerful and a, a thing that people can be taken advantage
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of. And when people use that to hurt
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them, I don't want people are looking for.
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Something to be healed with, no matter if it's grief or if it's
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physical pain or if it's mental pain, whatever someone's
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struggling with. Everyone has their struggles and
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everyone's looking for some sort of relief.
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And when someone preys on someone that is just looking for
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help, that's disgusting. I'm sure there's some.
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I'm sure, I'm sure there's. Going to be some topics coming
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up that I will be a little more abrasive on, but this is not one
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I think as people. I mean, I don't think unless
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you're, I think any type, any anything in the world can have
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extremisms, right? And I don't think this is
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something that I'm sure it's out there and exists, but it's if
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you're taking this to an extreme, you should you should
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go talk to somebody. You know what is one thing that
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I. I, I do think that we should
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have brought up that wasn't talked about.
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We talked about whether it was evil or not, right?
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Is, is moon water evil? Is it satanic?
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But what is holy water? What is holy water?
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Holy water is just a priest had an intention of blessing this
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water. What makes it so special?
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Because somebody said it was special, right?
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So what's the difference between me saying the moon said it was
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special spoiler? There's a lot of things.
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That the Christians do, that they consider witchcraft, that
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they do within their own practices, we could have a
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whole. Podcast on that, Yeah, but we'll
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get back to that. Another time in.
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Closing. So is moon water real?
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Not the test tube. Not in the test tube sense.
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But emotionally, spiritually and symbolically, Absolutely maybe
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at this point, the magic isn't in the water.
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It's in the act of believing something gentle, natural and
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human and and human. And that still matters the the
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moon. That's moon water.
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