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Ep 221 - "2025 Saints Seasons Grades" · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag no music no intro we are back Saints block party podcast the first guess you could say like off season episode for season maybe SPP Saints block party podcasts Present it to you brought to you by precious works L. L. C. Oh man
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wild Cart Weekend is ahead of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Wild Cart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a crazy week of football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always say you have college football, semi-finals, Thursday and Friday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That then goes into Wild Cart Weekend Saturday, Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a game on Monday?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think you've been Monday, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think it's a game on Monday too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is insane, that's just just for the football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you like a football sports ad, it's like, this is crack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cracksy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Oregon versus Indiana, you got
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who am I going versus oh miss you got like the the the the draft mix and the quarter bags and moving and moving baby and he got it's just it's it's a lot It's a lot and this is that I've gathered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we're doing this
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[SPEAKER_01]: podcast shout out to our dude Bajan who is the owner of Precious Works LLC who kind of this this episode and our discord yesterday in terms of doing the breakdown of each position on a skeletal one to five and so this is central we're doing and we're just taking and making an episode out of it but the sense that I've gathered is the amount of hope
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[SPEAKER_01]: that saints and saints fandom has, that has been inspired by Tyler Schuck, like, people are so jazzed up for the off-season for the draft, like, it's palpable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's for, you know us, we are draft, like, we are drafts, sickos, Kevin said, I got McDonald's Wi-Fi, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, you know, back to what we were saying is just the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this is palpable how St. Spaniser saw AMP for the off season and for the draft and for free agency and it's all all large part to tire shook and in the hope that he's injected you know the lap that second half of the season trying to think when was the last like real positive like not first part of the like hopeful all season probably 2018 like going into 2018
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After the no-call season, it was just like, I mean, I least for me, it was just like, yeah, whatever man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know that I know I got a little, I got, you know, that got a little Anthony Sanders, and then I got a little Emily and it Jerk Cook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know we know we you know notoriously go back and start episodes were both fans of them adding their car although not maybe at the at the the contract it so but like to this level to this level now brought no way not even close not the not even close you talk about actual hope
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[SPEAKER_00]: actual hope like we have in discussions on the discipline talking about sucks second contract is how long can he play can he make it to his 40's in like what are we even talking like any can you get a second season first you know like but it does just what we have right up i love it i love it i'm happy we're here now that we have to what at the what we've been through right and do it rough and then do it
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is funny like I saw that that someone's in our discord like someone on Twitter posts it like the like the like the four screen shots of like how the Raven season has like ended under Dron Harbal Get that shit on my face Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I still remember it, like I remember, I was on the phone with Jay for like 30 minutes and I didn't say a word, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a single word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, do you wanna beat, I'm just gonna, she's like, well let you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: someone free to souls said such a 180 from last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It absolutely is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't had faith in the league since the no-call tried to get invested last year after the first two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So first two weeks last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, always always always, always, always, always, always add that balance again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to start start with this story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we'll get into the
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, couple of me like an hour or so, maybe an hour and half before we start recording came home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter was on the couch and she's looking up stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have a, you know, hopefully you're able to take her to Florida this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As for her 16th birthday, as a big, big birthday present to her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the, I'm going to preface this by saying is that she has been like hyper fixated like I'm talking the podcast before Marvel MCU specifically like Sam Wilson Captain America Falcon the Winters soldier and she's own like yeah super super super for like at least six six months six seven months if not yeah six seven months for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she gets on the, she's on a website, like, kind of like, posh smart, kind of website.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she fires a shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, this is really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I really like the shirt, dad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, okay, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like a $3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, let me see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She shows it to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before she shows it to me, J goes, it's a Falcons T shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, no, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And J's like, what would I do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's sure enough, like, my daughter shows it to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All like red red focus t-shirt says like a lit of fuck is it all did everything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the moment I was just like I don't even fucking care anymore bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got Like get your shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get your fucking shirt like I don't care bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I get it cuz it's a falcon and she had to like the logo But me almost 40
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[SPEAKER_00]: that moment I just like thought about myself then and thought about my soul yeah 10 years ago I'd be like get the fuck up my house get out hell is wrong with you god damn it's just my my family was coming all the way but that'd be a no for me that no no no bro we do revolve a shirt that's not that shit off anyway
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not not many.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you know, you Dante.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very small circle of people know the this shit that I went through last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that there's no question for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not even on the on the on the list, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get the damn shock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: get the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you can go to her and I don't even like her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um.
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing this exercise before we, you know, we're going to show them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to, if, if you're watching the video, version of this, we, we appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a random Wednesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's late Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what timing what day in time it is anymore right so the people who are watching this right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate y'all So we get it it's the off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're listening to the audio of this we understand that you're not going to see the Seagraphic that's associated with our grades, but we're going to talk through and everything so you're not left out But going through this exercise
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything that kind of like just stood out to you before I put them put them on the screen and show them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no necessarily, but my whole thing, because the question is, what's how comfortable are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: For each position group going into the 28, 26 season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how we created that's how we, and I tried to look at it from the standpoint of not just like not creating it on like a same scale or like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hey, they're coming up from 61 season, like, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I was graded it on, like, Ken's team went, went to Super Bowl, like, you know, who's that, like, all that land?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was just, you know, all this is how you look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you, how you figure grading.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if somebody oughta look at it like that, bring, great kind of low, huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's called how I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, you go watch these teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna play this weekend and next weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a long way to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a good, not a lead, but I mean, we got a long way to go, but a long way to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even before we go into it, let's take our first and only break of this episode hit from our sponsor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when we come back, we're going to have the grading scale up each break down a position as we do our end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grays for the 2025 Saints position by position right after this break will be brought right after this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we are back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before we get into it as well, I wanted to give you a shout out to you for, you know, you, you talked about it on the recap episode, you did a PDF and a e pub of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: all the all 22 of each game that you broke down this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Slash Slain's Bug Party, you know, putting it together, all the work you did this season, man, just great work overall, just breaking down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, most of it was, you know, offensive base, but just in general, you know, great work, just working on that, putting that together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can download the file there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about 42, 43 pages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the roster comfort, comfort ability, level breakdown for East position being shared in the screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, when I pulled this up when I saw it, I was
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're aligned in a lot of areas, the two that stood out to me, um, that we're a little different on, uh, so for quarterback, we both have so again, the scale is one, one through five five being, you know, comfort 100% comfortable one being not comfortable at all quarterback we both have four out of five, um, running back in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: receiver I had both two out of five you had one out of five thoughts when you think about those those positions but now but we were pretty like we were pretty like even pretty much I went a little bit lower on like wire receiver and and wire receiver and running back because I have a gender to push like I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't trying to hear it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't trying to hear it at all, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they need to address this shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had this man thrown to a Riny Bell, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Riny Bell, catch the touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's me K-2, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two right, two right, two right, two right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is this guy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are these guys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: made no sense for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Made no sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, not bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, like, from a skill position standpoint, this team has a long way to go, um, think me and you were, we were even on offensive tackle, um, both give like a four out of five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I could have went three out of five, not because of the players, but just because for others, like coming off the
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where's he at as far as like health wise, like can't even maintain injury, you know, maintain his health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I went for out of five to because I feel like we good right there, we good at tackle and I just, I got to have so much faith in Kelvin banks bro, I got to have so much faith in just watching them all year watching them closely all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, yeah, if you look at the pressure numbers and stuff like that, you don't see a game of some pressures, but you just see like a dude that's going to grow into like a legit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe all pro year to love tackle bro, like you just see it man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's see if you go if people go back and and anyone who may be in the chat right now, my screen is like full screens, I can't say the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back and
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[SPEAKER_01]: watch or listen to the episodes we did after the bank to pick as annoyed as we were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We said that we understood it when we did the prospect of the week we broke them down and watched them and said that if this works out and the vision, like we saw the vision of this potentially being and it's high praise and not saying that they're going to reach this level, but Kevin Moore
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Wayne Johnson enjoyed Molata of just anchor tackles or if you just want to keep it synchronized, tolerant, tolerant, turn on the arms dead and Ryan Ramchek, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's funny because like Fwaga kind of has like the the injury concerns that Ray, I've had to a little and I'm not saying that, but if they, you know, us and I think the reason why I gave the
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw Fwaga, especially towards the back end of the season, once he got back in the line up, even though he wasn't healthy, but it seems like he got healthier as back in the back end of the season went along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with that help, you saw his play got better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you saw more of the Fwaga that we saw more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year as a rookie and that's that gives you that like man like that that is like building those are true true Building blocks that any team offensively wants the ones to have for the left talk on the right tackle Right in back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So something that I've seen a little bit whether it be like it's mostly like in better in our social media comments is like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, like, the play of Estame and Neil has been like decent to good and they've been like solid players, but like people seem to be like okay with just.
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[SPEAKER_01]: them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, so, so weird thing to me, like they seem like they're both great running back tos running back threes and, and, you know, change the pace backs and running backs and committees, but like the running back room still needs a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what at this point in his career that you can depend on AK to give you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just, I just, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why, you know, I gave it to 2 out of 5 and then we're see where I gave that 2 out of 5, you know, someone posted on YouTube today like all of, you know, Tyler Shucks, you know, most of his throws, it was like a 22 minute clip and I watched it and it just stood out to me how.
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[SPEAKER_01]: much divine valet brought to this to the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When when when Brandico's got traded and before he got hurt like the trust and the throws that shook over and over again and
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[SPEAKER_01]: they lay being able to properly being slot in to be like a high level white receiver three, and then why receiver two, whether that's a free agent, that's them training for someone, where that's a first round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can really start to potentially see the vision
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[SPEAKER_01]: of this office coming together, because man, Bey-Lay was making some plays, bruh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make plays, bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, when you see, just that stretch is like, if he played, like, if he played with Chuck the entire season and they had like that chemistry through the entire season, you can usually see a man having like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2016, Willie Snee type season, line nine on the yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just that sure handed third, third, down, third, nature and whatever, you could just see him having that type of season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know the only thing with the lay is like, you know, one of the negatives with him is he is an older, young player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has been banged up, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I don't remember what he, what entry he had is with the shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in the end, with the sexes, the shoulder, and then he had
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the only worry with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I can't look at him like, okay, this is gonna be our guy for the next four years, whatever, you just, you just, with him, you just open like, let me, I hope we get what we can get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How to him, but if he is healthy and you can have it for how, for season and Chris or Lava, and then you go get,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a receiver that could attack downfield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll perceive with a little size on them that get downfield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We read some target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got like a hold, why receive a core.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that, you could really that killing book really sit there with this surface pad, all that stuff, really just showing up, showing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We both gave the Titan position two out of five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, Joanne Johnson had his best season of his career best season with one of the best season that's tied in, you know, for the, you know, for the Saints that there's been, like I said, and we can resume on the week 18 game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of similarities between Joanne Johnson and Alante Taylor as like they seem to be like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: offensive and defensive mirror of each others were there just extremely extremely frustrating players were like you see like there are times where you just see it you like oh there it is there it is and then there's times where it's just like oh there it is there it is there it is there it is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I'm not trying to poo poo Joan because he had a great season, um, but then Some of that like but then early season Joan was early season Joan, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's making all those plays that you're not making those plays that we've got, you know It caused him to him not making and then like we we gave team was just such the perfect game where you had The fun bull and then you had this amazing catch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like that's that's he's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why it's like, you know, at least for me, why it's two out of five is like, there is really, I must, I know, Mascado looked good as a blocker, and, and, and.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the titans games came in, but there is literally nothing that's behind dawn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's much like I'm talking like Pete like titans on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's John, there's Mascado, Fossil Maroles of Free Agent, Tace Amhills of Free Agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank Mitchell, the one who they claim for the Ravens, as I am Mitchell, I think he made it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the undercontract, I don't even know if he's undercontracted, I don't even know if he's undercontracted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's in Jake's soul like they're like the depth at tight in is atrocious beyond one like he even takes one out of the equation is atrocious and that's something where they I'm not saying I was thinking about this earlier I saw where they get was Oh what's this name
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny too, because if you think about it, if you talk, if you go back to our episode, we did a Cody Alexander, he talked about potentially like Tyler Warren needing an inline guy, so he can kind of flex out that didn't need to be true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That didn't turn out to be true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I think about this offense, I was seeing where a coast in Leavenland lined up for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that would help this offense on so many levels, 12 personnel and what have you would just be a, just another second, just NFL compatible tight in.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, I know, bro, we have like, and I'm not saying they're not gonna go out and go get like a David and Joe Koo or a chick on concourse or something like that.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But like just someone who's just a reliable decent
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Tighten to would just help this offense out tremendously, tremendously, and it's need it, man.
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's needed.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So bad.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Rams got tight ends just fall it up to sky You can they got four in the first they'd be getting hurt and he's stupid just like run too well Like it like what the Bro, I was watching that rams game against the cartinals and I saw Tyler hit me because I was like It's just never he's the free agent like that's that's the type of move like Tyler Higbee because they got they got so many they got Kobe Parkinson they just drafted Turns Ferguson last year
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of move that, like, is a smart, like, you know, you know, Tyler Higby's not going to cost a whole bunch of money, but he fits exactly what the thing schematically needs.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like he's skipped what Kelly wants to do as well.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: They need some more tight ends, man.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, because when you look at where Tyler shook likes to throw the ball, he likes to target those tight ends across the middle.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to.
25:44
[SPEAKER_00]: How to please he likes to leak out and kind of scramble and look for it through.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: No better.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: target for him than the big tight end, who could box out of, you know, get sitting his own and box out of DB on throws like that.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they should get, they need to get to this all seasons.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So all the agencies, one if we're agency, one of them I don't care, but they need to get to like actual tight ends.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: One preferably that can block, you know what I'm saying?
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: and catch, you know, they don't have to be a dynamic catcher, but just a guy that could, you know, they block a little bit, they'll leak out to the past, rock and catch the bubble, and that's it.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, you know, Jason with Ross, you know what I'm saying?
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he just needs something that, man, because Jake's still a camp block.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Joined Johnson camp block.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Moscado, look, maybe he might turn into somebody and he's a several on pick with very little experience.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he's maybe isn't.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And other than that, you have nothing else.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So that position needs to be, have a lot of work done this off season.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He does and he's to be completely like that Titan room needs to be like revamped completely completely Let's go into like the interior.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about the cockles, but Guard we both have it one out of five and then center.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We have it three out of five.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get some good some love He was he was specifically mentioned in Gales interview with Jeff Duncan even though it didn't come from gell at all
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I got down look fokin' the bruh like I need look fokin' back my team bruh Louis was making booze boy Don't even know that was a lumbus movie I could have been all kept on Ain't need me looking fokin' the back of my team bruh They they they he these the be a resine like they need to bring him back a set man because he showed he could start he showed He's a solid starting center
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's interesting, you know, he does some positive things.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, you watch, he gets down there, downfield in the run game.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's not like a super powerful guy and then like that.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's just a solid starting scenario.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You need that even if even if Eric McCoy, you know, expecting to return, I read the article of the data, he feels like he'd be ready to go.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, OTAs and all that stuff.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, good, great.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, once Eric McCoy come back, great.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's been like three seasons of him like missing time.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't go into the season like expecting Eric McCoy to play the full season.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You just can't.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just cannot expect you're like, you know, we're we're at Eric McCoy where this like where we were with Toron.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly the same.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly the same.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It has nothing to do with the play.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Because when time went to rounds on field like,
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, like he was, I was standing, but it was just, you just, you knew he was going to miss time, like it was a very effective life that he was going to miss time and he just got to the point where it's like, okay, we can't live like this anymore.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying you pull a plug on Eric McCoy this season, because obviously it's the Saints and they have
28:50
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29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, as bad as it, like, if, if, if, if you gave me the option, well, if I won't say this, if you gave me the option, if the room is wanted to just get fucking nuts and just make a, just a rational sign.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're rationalizing to be the right one, but like a sign in where people were like, oh, like, you know, the sign in that makes people like, how the sea's pulling this off, they have no, like that type of
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I would prefer it to be a top three, four guard than I would any other position because then, because then, now that doesn't necessarily mean at eight in the draft that they would go juice, they could still go defensive end, they could go defensive tackle, but they
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard, they're going to get another guard
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: We go out to play this clip right back, like what would it look like?
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I walk in a traffic, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore, what if I swore,
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, but then they need to address it, bro.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that needs to be like on what is it?
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't it call it like wants needs and must not go into the whole season need a must must must position, you know, need to but, you know, Here, I don't know which one you address.
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You could you could bounce rees and put somebody else there and keep returns or, you know, bounce returns and keep re-
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's some, okay, if we're talking about this, something I know we're talking.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's something that maybe is a point that I'm gonna bring up that I feel like isn't, maybe I have to talk about.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Has the Saints pro-scouting been good lately?
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, it's a great point, it's a great point.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: feel like it I feel like it like legit like okay let's think about like I'm just on like thinking of some of the moves they made recently Marcus May that was that was a miss they traded CD and then they brought in Bradley Robe Bradley Robe wasn't wasn't that good that was a miss the Brandon Cook signing a miss
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going that well.
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think anything else is a massive the loop.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Luke Fultner like that obviously that was a trade.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's a proscouting thing.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was you know pretty good.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You last year.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They hit on that they hit on that 100%.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like, you know, a lot, a lot of attention.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously they haven't had, they haven't had like a lot of resources, you know, they haven't had been in the cap space, but that's the, that's the, I get a little gunshot.
32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because, like, thank you, thank you, signing, make this up for tonight.
32:54
[SPEAKER_00]: To be, like, you know, all right, I did like the, the Jonah Williams and the, and
33:05
[SPEAKER_00]: rich wage on the wins in the brink somebody else in came up like mother bullet bullet those are fine like those are final you know
33:16
[SPEAKER_00]: plug-ins, you know what I'm saying?
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It did fine first.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I feel like you're a big year better.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But like you said, the resources have been tight.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not exactly saying it's art the marquee team that, you know, they've reagents are banging the door to complain for stuff.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, somewhere, so on some level, I feel like they've done what they can and like the chase young look, that's
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that's turned out to be like one of those home run home run bed look like one of the best like free agent moves like in this history yeah like Mario I'm looking I was looking at his test.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He's eighth in quick pressures in the league where and that's missing five games eighth in quick pressures
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: and quick pressures is more of a measurement that, you know, I like better than just regular pressures.
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Quick pressures is more like indicative of like your KU actually disrupting things, you know, saying quickly.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't like Dan, like, okay, Chase, I don't really do it.
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's starting to get to say, because he always did, like, really, yeah, he would be this brother.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Great rules though, compared to Clownie, which I know was a great.
34:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Great just a great comparison because like he's you know, I've seen now, bro.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He's finishing But I just like just in the sense of the boy with high draft picks, you know, yes, generation or, you know, you have to disappoint in players, you know, injured a lot, but then eventually clowning started like coming around and like started becoming like a real good player.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where it is with with Chase Young.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Being like, guard needs to be addressed definitely in the worst way, hopefully just not in the way one.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Nine round one.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We talking about speaking to clown, he's flipping over to the defensive side of the ball.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: For defensive end, we have three out of five, which is maybe I shouldn't maybe I'm thinking with the back of my wrist, I put it two out of five because cams of free agent, if I'm the streamer, if I'm them,
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to trade call grander syndrome, I'm trying to I'm trying to trade call grander syndrome because so then you're you're depends of in position, probably I if I'm looking at this probably is more for me like a two out of five instead of maybe a three out of five and even they brought back cam on a deal or he's okay with the same
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, can't, can't, can't, can't, like, my age, bro, like, he's at what they're like, you know what I'm saying?
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's tricky.
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it could, it could, it could easily have like a no sex season, you know what I'm saying, right?
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like that age, you know what I'm saying?
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like that age with things to turn it down here.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He's big times so far, but, you know, you never know that clock is still ticking.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting spot, because like that position can get real thin.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: If Cam left, then it's just really, it's just Chase and Grandson after that.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: If Cam left, because under that you got rough, I think he's a free agent.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you bring him back.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you've got a, you know, for Dio, Dio, we, you know, he's a theory right now.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He just, just a young, working player, you know, you hope he can kiss him.
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a position that they're really going to have to address too, like, you know, I'll see you.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if free agency.
36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's out there.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not much in the draft, you know, they might have a chance to get a David Bailey, you know, Avery, so that's not going to happen.
36:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe somebody in the middle rounds that that's a potential weapon.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: not edge still a still a need man edge still a need uh... let me check check it on the chat because i had the uh... screen up hemisphere said i think the virus you were long is going to be a lot better next year a lot of a they lay pork and a wookie ricky draft pick and but that is that making make that's making right now making it got to the chairman
37:18
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37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't cast it or trading for dots knocks mm-hmm.
37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good, right?
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna free it yet.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of catching a date.
37:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, Robin, I've been begging to God damn table for dots to knock through.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, season.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, season.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that was my keeper over there.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's see what else to chat say.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... our new job but they said we do treat when you give up a second in two thousand twenty six in the first and second in two thousand twenty seven for my cross be absolutely not hell no no no right i don't think people understand how insanely valuable but those two thousand twenty seven draft picks are going to be like so valuable bro like
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Tread lately, I was all I'm saying, like, Tread lately, and I get too crazy.
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's just too bad.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But things can turn down heel very quickly, you know?
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's look at the commanders.
38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the commanders.
38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait a minute, they pick in 78 or something like that, like.
38:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: above us they they're picking above us when they had when they were a game away from the Super Bowl can't we think about that but think about that.
38:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just how quickly things turn you know what I'm saying you know and that's not all Jay you need to just guy hurt but like that's just a part of the that's part of the NFL you know what I'm saying.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so I had to pull up.
39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Docs in Knox is a free agent in 2027
39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's a more, you know, like, that's the type of tree you could probably speak, you know, so I would Robin been banging, hanging the table from Dr. Malcolm, three guy dead.
39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go on back to the thing on, I mean, pull it back up here, better that way.
39:48
[SPEAKER_01]: defense tackle.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We both gave it to our five.
39:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it just, it's a position that needs upgrading.
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, I think your theory is spot on about Brian B. C. How him in and out of line up has improved the run defense run defense got better when Brian B. C. was not in the line up.
40:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Nate the shepherd made, you know, had a good hat into the, you know, in the season, you know, Bullard had, you know, Mason's flash plays, but like, you know, it was, like, it's just like, to pick the talk was just like, okay, it's just like, okay,
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Full of Jax, just full of guys, you know, no, they need a guy, like they need a guy that can just be Peter Woods It was crazy, it was like a year ago.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like hell, yeah, Peter Woods because he was just getting so much hype
40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you see the little clips on line.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on Twitter and stuff like that, like, oh, yeah, man, Peter Woods.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's just like, oh, I don't want it.
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't want it.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's such a, he's such a safe speak to over here.
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I said, take, hit, bro.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they would, they would use the same justific, and I'm not saying he's going to have the same type of career.
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be clear with that.
41:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But they would use the same type of justification that they used with Brian B.C.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: in drafting Peter Wool is that they dealt with driving Brian B.C.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, that 1224 tape dominant, you know, the fact that we got a player of his caliber, you know, where were we able to get him?
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I could just see it Wolf, like I could just see so much of it, so much of it.
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway, well, they do need to address it.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what free agency looks like at defensive tackle.
41:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be great if they could find like a gym or a hidden gym.
41:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like, you know, like, no wings from a few years ago.
42:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just somebody they could come in.
42:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just start to kind of hit their peak.
42:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be nice.
42:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they desperately need a guy.
42:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Guy was going to get a run of guy who's disruptive up the middle.
42:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that will ultimately help you edge out too.
42:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
42:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just just going to name out for a couple of quick names.
42:23
[SPEAKER_01]: David, I'm your mother.
42:26
[SPEAKER_01]: DJ Reader.
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Dayquan Jones for the bills, John Franklin Myers on the Broncos, who's like a damn good player.
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I said the Broncos, he's making plays.
42:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Sheldon Rankins.
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a green.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a green.
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's he's he's great bro.
42:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's great.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway Back to the list linebackers.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So I I got I said two out of five for linebacker You said three out of five I said two out of five just because P word that That
43:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't seen Stuntsman in full capacity and as good as the Mario, you know, still is it is age, like, I just, you know,
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, Levanta David kind of had that season this year was just like, it's like, all right, bro, like, it's time this time.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, and going, going into next year, like, depending on the Mario to continue to keep up, like, that's a dangerous thing, bro, like you can't just anticipate him to just continue this, it's just dangerous.
43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've made it decision you know what's the saying like it's better to get rid of them to early then too late.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think they've made it decision that That that's all lawyer to him that they rather it be totally you know I know that for sure There's the same way we're billable.
44:12
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like billable was barely hanging on to his leg
44:15
[SPEAKER_00]: and it was still pushing them out there, man.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So they just, you know, just that loyalty thing.
44:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think overall just the live-backer, it's like, it's a fine.
44:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fine position relative to the rest of the league.
44:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not like a strength of the defense, but it's not like a huge gap in the whole either.
44:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, that's it, you guys, that's been,
44:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys does man there.
44:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He shows like some potential would have liked to see more, but we didn't.
44:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Pete Werner here's Pete Werner, you know what I'm saying?
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just there, bro.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got some guys like, uh...
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Ford, we didn't get to see any of him this year, you know, like, he has some potential.
44:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hit, like, here's the interesting thing.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking at over the cap.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, this is what, like, a smart team would do, just though this hour, right?
45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a smart team, a smart thing a team thinking ahead would do.
45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know he's got hurt this season.
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, with a free agent, this season, and then maybe it maybe doesn't matter because maybe they were
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Necobie Dean, oh, from the Eagles, oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that would be a nice one there Perk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a nice one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that takes four thought, that's, and that's where the things are like in a tricky position because all like the, the void years and shit like that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cam's contract and the Mario's contract, but like Necobie Dean's, he's 25 is a free agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you fought that he got injured but before he got injured last season he was playing out of his mind last season over the equals and what what system has it come from the big fangeel system who played who run the very simple big fangeel system is that brand new.
46:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So for thinking, okay, let's go getting a Kobe ding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's trade off P Warner, let's put stuff like that's how like that's how you stay young in school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm just like, that's the for and who knows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the Kobe ding might not even get the same, but like one linebackers don't get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we know that linebackers get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you as the same's where to put it like an offer and say, hey, bro, come be our middle lineback of the future.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But then but also takes the gumption because you got to be willing to tell the Mario hey buddy Thanks for everything you don't for us, but we're gonna go in it Like they don't have that gumption broth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I think they don't let it all Then we have it in them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have it in them Don't have it in them, especially when the Mario wants to be like he's like at his final a press or he's like, yeah, I'm coming back They want me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm coming back
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get to him.
46:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know the same bread it says just love to be love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do, brother, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, they, they, they, they, but that, that's it.
47:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It, that'd be just a, a little just not saying it would be like, like, tomorrow, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, for a cornerback and safe, we both had it three or five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it could put safety to a five because there was a lot of cover cuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But listen, Quincy Riley, Kool-Aid, you know, you throw a lot in there, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: as a frustrating, especially, you know, as a lot of take, you know, a lot that could be, and sometimes sometimes cool it as well, you know, you don't have a shut down guy, but you have, you know, some some good players in that position, you know, that Quincey where I take to another step and step forward, next year and year two, who they continues to improve, you put it in our discord, I don't know what article is from, but man, listen, I don't, I don't know, I know we
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48:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And just the type of player a lot here is a flashy player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some general managers or defense coordinators that look at his table, like that, I could do something with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying just kind of a splash player like him, especially if you got a good defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying I could see him just flashing on the defense, saying, so tightens, they got tons of cat space.
49:10
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... language patrons they're going to like a hundred me and it can't be some like that hundred me and like great out of my pennies can't stand the right can't stand the right please get out of my so like teens can throw that money in a lot to say so that's going to be another old lady please that it is for us to want to see what you want about them it would be a whole that they would have to address and put on the same branch at the island bro
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[SPEAKER_00]: every year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't know where, but they're going to draft for cornerback or safety and some point in the draft for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And usually they hit, usually not always, but they do, usually hit our safety.
49:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We both had three out of five, you know, five, that's fine.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of this is like projecting Sanca's future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I believe he's going to be a real good player going forward.
50:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how, I don't actually know how to play it fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I thought he did too, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he played better in sports than just a read did if I'm just being real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just just saying.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, we've got a $2 Canadian super chat from Drew Breeze, 9100.
50:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out like the all like, the Darym price from Notre Dame.
50:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't even like, I know that he's
50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I like John Butler said, Taran and Underhill said that they would do that Crosby trade all day like I like this is where like I like do people not under like realize where this team is and there are and they're where they are like that that trading for Max Crosby is something that the Detroit line you should do right it is not something that the 2020 six New Orleans Saints should do
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this name, no, no, no, I'm saying like, no, like, say next year, shut like confirms that he is the guy, like it's confirmed.
51:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like, okay, this is, this is, this is a dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We make it to the inner sea, the visual championship game.
51:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, okay, this is, we've really got something.
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, like, let's get a little, let's get a little while, like, let's get crazy.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, you're still kind of in like a, um, a still figuring it out, but like, I wouldn't, he's going to cost a lot.
51:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's going to cost you that, I don't reject these, but traffic's everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just not a move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't move.
52:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, right now.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's just, it's just, speaking of that to run date.
52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: While the shit was to Ryan told me about it, to Ryan, I'm still talking about how Robert Hunt, the guard from the Patriot, from the Panthers, texted him after the Falcons game, who played the Sunday, he's like, man, I just love motherfucking division with Giusey Allen, come down and see South and I got a feast, tell us, what the fuck?
52:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that's just wild to me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got NFL, please.
52:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like disgusted that they have the face Tyler suck.
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Come, come, go and drop, bro.
52:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to drop, bro?
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Holley, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Holley, shit.
52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I know, I know, I know this nigga in practice, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Mr. Universe said, if you haven't already, but what are your thoughts on being man, we don't talk.
53:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, trust me, we, we, we would talk about being a prime issue.
53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a prime issue because we have thoughts.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We will be, we will be Rubin, we will be Rubin Bane out.
53:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one thing, um, thanks through, uh, lucky Russ tech for bringing this up.
53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I had, we didn't have it in the, in the graphic.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I had punner, when I could see them, sorry.
53:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, punner has one out of five at kicker as two out of five.
53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams, leads to be revamped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they need a new puncher.
53:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Charlie Smith shows some things in,
53:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but even with Charlie Smith that like his consistency needs to be better because if you you can make the argument that if he like that one 50 and I get it was a 57 yarder, but he made fit the previous week he made to 50 plus ones I believe so if he made if he had made that 157 yarder because he's on this it's a win now then you say well then they probably picking 10 and not eight whatever they beat the Falcon I'm just I'm just saying like the special teens consistent
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[SPEAKER_01]: Consistency needs to, needs to be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they gotta, I need to, I need this special team's coordinator fired.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: All that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, another car.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what?
54:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so, so on.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Breeze 9D100 said the Josh Allen comps for a little much.
54:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Allen is faster, bigger, stronger arm.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Love, Chuck though, but feels like a souped up, Jerry golf.
54:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that the Josh Allen Combs or a little hyperbolic, I think I understand what people say when he said it.
55:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think people say it like he's Josh Allen, you know I'm saying like two quarter.
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think your point of like people finding a appropriate
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Just so many different things, you know what I'm saying?
55:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause he's just like a weasel weird, just because he's big, but he's slender, has a big arm, he's a pocket-fast, but he's athletic, but he's not crazy, but he's athletic.
55:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just kind of hard to think out what, you know, what that comp is.
55:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, he just taught me something man.
55:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's gonna be his own little bro.
55:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna be his own copic bitch.
55:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
55:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bro.
55:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
55:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I go like, date, Daniel Jones.
55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like that.
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Jones is, I would say, in a vacuum probably more of an athlete.
55:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
55:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But Tyler Schuck's arm talent is way, like it's just, it's, it's, I don't know, bro.
56:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't, I can't put it down.
56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You had said, I think you had said, Ryan Tena Hill, Tena Hill,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a ten-a-heel with a little bit of golf and Josh Allen and him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a little ten-a-heel and combo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
56:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's tough, man.
56:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky Rust Tech said, Chuck may be like, Clutch Young Dack.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: See, there's a little sound.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can see that a little bit a little bit.
56:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people still underrate deck on the quarterback Yeah, and like deck that get amazing, yeah, man I still lean a little like maybe like Justin Herbert like light like this J Mac TJ Maxx Justin Herbert is What bro?
57:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bro.
57:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He did make sure some of it bro
57:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I said in our discord a couple of weeks ago, which is funny because they were team mates at Oregon But in turn like you like Armstrong Like athleticism It all kind of like was funny is like when Justin Herbert got his first start when Tira Tila got his lungs punctured by accident.
57:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like almost the same reaction
57:41
[SPEAKER_00]: when Herbert hit the sink is like, oh.
57:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this dude could play you with that lady.
57:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it was just that same kind of like surprise, like, oh, this dude could play, man.
57:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, we shook, he was the same way.
57:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody, especially, you know, people that don't watch the same stage, just like, tune in, it's like, tell the show, they're like, damn, let's tell the show dude, follow him, like they have.
58:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think that's a good, that's a good come too.
58:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He's somewhere in that family, the Herbert, yes.
58:14
[SPEAKER_00]: some way, I don't know, some way that's a kind of error, whatever, anyhow.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about, gave our grades out in terms of confidence level and everything and grades headed in, you know, for each position, um, if things go, you know, we're trying to figure out our schedule, but hopefully hopefully if we're able to,
58:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Just some news.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably not going to be able to make it to the senior bowl.
58:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also know that the senior bowl is kind of change like their credential processing.
58:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm didn't even apply for credentials just because of like finances.
58:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Never heard them beg it.
58:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
58:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, don't know if senior bowl is going to be in the, you know, be in the cart for SPP this this year.
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But all that said, all of these are still full steam ahead and our goal is to if everything goes well this weekend to put out put out our first Patreon or start a Patreon not part not Patreon prospect of the week episode, which will be Arizona Statewide receiver Jordan Tyson, if we're able to that's going to be
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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon only YouTube member only, and so we have access to all 22 most of college of the draft prospects.
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I know you watched them against Texas Tech.
59:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched them against, I think it was Mississippi State.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So one in the chat said, I'm not even sure if Alan's arm is that much stronger than Chuck's.
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop it.
59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop it.
59:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:44
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
59:46
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we could do our first prospect of the week episode Jordan Tyson this weekend, like I said, I'll be if we're able to, that'll be Patreon only.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our goal, my goal is if we're able to do it, you know, we'll watch three, maybe three and a half games each of all 22 of Jordan Tyson and we'll come back and give our thoughts on on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at the prospect and how he potentially
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: that's hopefully the goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we also probably have, you know, just even some tidbits talk about, we're just full ball and general and everything with this crazy busy football week.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But we appreciate any and all of y'all who joined us for this episode, just talking grades, end of the year, Saints grades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we hopefully we back this weekend for Patreon, only YouTube member, only episode of Jordan Tyson, right, receiver Arizona State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The offseason Saints is completely forced in the head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
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