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#326: Wolf Creek (2005) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  That's not a knife. This is a knife.
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  His favorite scary movie. The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, about the ugly and the absurd and all of our favorite.
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  Family's favorite scary movies because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has his fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name's Travis.
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  My name's Jesse and we're going to the Outback this week,
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  everybody. We are talking about Wolf Creek.
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  If you couldn't tell from my flawless Australian impression.
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  For those of you that were disappointed and thought for a
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  moment that we actually had John Jarrett on this episode, well,
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  I've got a surprise for you. It's Jesse.
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  It's me. He's not going to be here.
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  Yeah, it it pains me. I wish we could have him here,
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  but. I do also need to apologize
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  because I'm not wearing my Jeff Jarrett muscle tank.
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  Damn either like I promise you, you dropped you didn't have to
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  ruin that bit of magic for them. I'm.
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  So sorry. But you know it, yeah.
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  Whatever. Where later today, just to honor
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  him. OK, you have to.
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  Wait, which Jared? Yes, both of us.
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  I watched a match yesterday of wrestling that had Jeff or yeah,
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  Jeff Jarrett yesterday. So, you know, like, whatever.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  All right, So, yeah, we're talking about Wolf Creek.
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  But before we get into the episode of all of that, do we
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  have any announcements? We do.
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  We did our QB or nod to be last weekend.
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  We covered actually our only Valentine's theme kind of movie
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  of the month. Yeah, yeah.
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  We took the opportunity to do a Valentine's Day movie for A to
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  Be or Not to Be. We talked about X-ray, also
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  known as Hospital Massacre. Also known as.
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  I forget what the other one was. They're like 5 different names,
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  but those are the two most notable names.
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  Yeah, yeah, that was a lot of fun.
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  We had to go time with it. Go listen.
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  Yeah, yeah, it was a good time. Let's get into it.
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  Then All right, let's get into it, OK?
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  So Wolf Creek released January. Oh yeah, I didn't actually have
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  an actual day. It was.
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  It premiered. It premiered sometime in January
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  2005 at the Sundance Film Festival.
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  Wide release on Christmas Day of 2005.
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  OK, OK. We watched it on our DVD, but if
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  you would like to watch it in February of 2026, you can stream
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  it on Tubi, Hoopla, Fandango at Home, Plex, or Fossum.
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  If you prefer for whatever reason that you would like to
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  rent from some of these options that have free offerings on that
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  very platform itself, you can rent it from Fandango.
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  You can rent it on Prime Apple TV and YouTube.
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  Also OK. Written and directed by Greg
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  McQueen, music by Francois Titaez, special effects makeup
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  by Conley. Makeup effects team starring
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  John Jerry as Nick Taylor, Cassandra McGrath as Liz,
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  casting Morrissey as Christy and Nathan Phillips as Ben.
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  OK Jesse. Time for a favorite game on the
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  show. Budget or?
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  Budget. This is the part where I must
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  reveal that I was actually in the room cleaning when I heard
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  you watching this part of the BTS.
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  Again, Jesse, you're ruining the magic.
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  I'm sorry, I'm just pulling down that curtain.
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  It's not even a peek behind. There's no more curtain.
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  No, I heard them say that they purposely were trying to do
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  under like a smaller budget. Yeah.
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  So they did reportedly around 1.4 million.
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  This is going into the fun facts a little bit, but sorry, the the
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  goal ultimately was that they wanted to do a $5,000,000 movie
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  with a $1 million budget. OK.
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  So this is where we're at with the, IT had an opening box
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  office of 2.8 million worldwide gross 30 million.
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  Damn. I didn't realize it did that
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  well. I didn't either.
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  IMDb 6.2 OK I am happy that it has a good score.
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  All right so I have 3 movies that came out in 2005 with a
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  theme. OK, the theme I have here is
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  Tourism is Deadly. Is Hostile one of the movies?
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  This is the very first one I had here.
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  Did you also walk in on me when I wrote Hostile Jesse?
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  No, OK, well, maybe I don't know.
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  I wasn't looking at your iPad. OK good.
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  Well Hostile. Released September 17th, 2005.
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  4.8 million budget 82,000,000 gross 5.9 on IMDb.
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  I remember I went to the theatres with my dad for that
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  one and I was so embarrassed that I was watching nudity with
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  my dad that I tipped my cap down and I just pretended like I
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  wasn't staring at the stuff going on there.
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  OK movie #2 House of Wax. I also had a feeling House of
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  Wax is going to be on it. Oh, you did?
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  Did. You.
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  Yeah, it's the JPADS of it all. Yeah, OK, well, House of Wax.
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  Oh my God, he isn't that. Yeah.
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  OK. House of Wax released May 6th,
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  2005, $40 million budget. Yeah, I don't remember it being
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  that big, but it was pretty big, $70 million gross, 5.5 IMDb.
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  OK. And the final movie, The
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  Descent. I didn't.
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  I didn't know where you're going to say that one.
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  I didn't think so. I had to make sure that that was
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  one where they actually did travel.
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  They are from I think the like Europe, UK.
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  Whatever. Yeah, and they they traveled to
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  the Appalachian Mountains to do their little deep dive cave in
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  spelunking. They were actually going on
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  uncharted caves. Yeah.
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  So we talked about all three of these movies.
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  Juno. Juno.
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  No, Juno was Juno cave. Juno Cave.
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  OK, I see what you're doing. Yeah, I remember.
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  She's like, what? Are we going to name this?
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  Like we should name it after, like one of us, right?
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  Like Juno. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  So that came out July 6th, 2005. God, what is this?
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  Oh, right. That's a pound.
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  I wrote a pound because they had £3.5 million for their budget.
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  Well, that British. British, but the worldwide gross
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  is in dollars, $57 million. That is that.
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  Happened on one of the ones I looked up last week too.
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  It was Hellraiser. OK.
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  Yeah, I remember. So IMDb 7.2.
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  All right, Yeah, all right. That was a banger.
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  That was a great movie. Yeah.
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  And we have talked about all three of these.
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  Mm Hmm. Yep.
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  So I have two tag lines. First one, the thrill is in the
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  hunt. Thrill of the hunt.
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  The thrill of the hunt is in the hunt.
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  The. Smell of the shunt.
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  The thrill is in the shunt. I bet Mick would be into that,
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  but he is not society enough for.
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  That yeah, he, he's not in that class.
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  He's he's the opposite, the polar opposite of that class,
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  which is also weird in its own distinct way.
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  Yeah. And the final tagline, How can
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  you be found when no one knows you're missing?
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  That's true because they were planning a super long trip
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  across the Outback anyway. Yep.
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  All right, so it's time for fun facts.
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  So yes, this movie is based off of true events.
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  We have some incidents of people going missing in the Outback
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  that inspired it. There were two cases in
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  particular, one of serial killer Ivan Melo, which happened in 99,
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  and there was also Bradley Murdoch in 2001.
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  I don't think Bradley Murdoch was a killer.
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  Maybe he was. He may have been a victim.
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  I didn't do much research myself in that, but the idea for the
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  movie was originally conceived in 1997, and the Queen had
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  originally written as just a straightforward slasher, but by
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  the time he finished it, he didn't really like it.
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  So he saw the incident of Ivan Mollott and he got inspired to
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  do a retooling of the script. And this time he wanted to
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  basically take an evil character that is distinctly Aussie and
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  put them out in the wilderness and have people stuck with him
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  and just basically make it a movie of like 3 people stuck
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  with the most evil Aussie that you could imagine.
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  Yeah. So he went in with that in mind
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  and he did it. The figures that inspired Mick
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  Taylor's character where he he tried to go for like very
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  distinct Australian personalities.
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  So one of them, Steve Irwin, which I think that is the more
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  jovial side of Mctaylor that we see where he's kind of friendly
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  with the people. The other Ivan Moab.
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  OK, sorry, I was. Yeah, I was pulling something up
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  because, you know, we've talked about true crime on this podcast
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  quite a bit, and there's a lot of like, podcasts and shows and
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  stuff that are a little bit predatory about it.
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  But Case File is one of those that's very consistently like,
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  works be respectful. And they've done a few episodes
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  of cases that claim to be loosely inspiring to Wolf Creek.
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  So I was just going to plug those if anybody was curious
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  about it. So the episode one O 9, Bill
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  Anglo and then Peter Falconeo. So those are the the episodes
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  that talk about it. OK.
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  Interesting. Yeah, I think that there were
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  there were multiple cases that really inspire this.
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  It wasn't just those two in particular.
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  I think that's where he got most of his inspiration from, but it
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  was all of them in general that kind of did.
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  Yeah. So there's there's, there's a
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  lot going on. And if you want to know more
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  about those actual cases and what happened and how you know
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  the killers were found or not found, because I have a lot on
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  case file too, go check those out.
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  It's a great podcast if you want to listen to true crime in a
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  like that's respectful of the victims.
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  You're welcome. Case file, You need your help.
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  Clearly you need us to plug you. Clearly, Yeah.
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  O Jarrah was actually cast within 10 minutes of his first
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  meeting with the director. Like the guy wanted somebody
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  that would erfectly encapsulate the set of character.
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  And he knew within 10 minutes of having coffee with this guy that
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  he was the guy, which was really cool.
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  And John Jarrett went like fucking method with it.
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  He actually went and spent weeks isolated out in the Outback to
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  try and, like, get ahold of what this role would be like, how to
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  be this type of guy. So Kessie got her role after one
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  of the other actors that was supposed to be in there dropped
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  off, and Morrissey actually was scheduled to do her own a broad
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  backpacking trip when she was given the role for this right
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  here. So it was kind of a coincidence
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  that it happened that way. The goal was to make the film
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  like a $5,000,000 film with a $1 million budget.
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  They did it with a HD Cam is what it was.
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  It was basically like a little camcorder that shot in HD, which
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  was revolutionary ish technology of the time, but it was almost
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  entirely shot handheld, which was kind of interesting.
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  Yeah, also a really cool thing. So in the movie, they make it to
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  Wolf Creek and they're like commenting about how it's like a
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  rainy day and it's very strange. And, you know, they didn't
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  really think that, like, you know, it was out of the norm for
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  them. That was actually a realistic
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  thing that happened to them. So they went and they filmed at
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  that location. That is a location that had not
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  seen rain in six years, but it suddenly started raining the day
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  that they showed up for filming and it rained for days straight.
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  So they had to work it into the film.
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  So that is why they have that moment in the movie.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  Which is kind of crazy. Also Mix Camp that he has set up
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  in the movie. That's an actual murder site.
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  Icky. Yeah, like somebody actually was
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  killed there and that upset the locals because they thought that
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  they were making a movie based off of that incident alone right
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  there. I don't know if they went into
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  that knowing that that was an actual murder site, but yeah,
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  like that is actually where somebody was killed.
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  Oh, I don't like that. It is a little bit upsetting.
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  Is the Wolf Creek Crater a real thing?
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  It is a real thing, yes, and is. It actually called that, yeah.
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  OK, Yeah, it is a real thing. The shot, the helicopter shot
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  that we have of the crater that was the actual Wolf Creek crater
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  where they filmed it at was not. They just went to like that
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  random ledge out in the Outback and filmed there.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  So yeah, that's it for the fun facts I have.
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  So let's do our good, bad, ugly, and I'm sure Jesse, kick it off.
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  What do you like about this? Oh man, this is just scary
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  scenario to find yourself in. Like the thought of traveling
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  through the Outback alone is already really scary because it
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  is just thousands of miles of nothing.
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  That's the thing that like, I've never had to do a trip like
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  that. Like I think the most I've ever
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  had to do anything like that is like driving from my home in
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  Harlan to your home in Hopkinsville, that I think it's
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  Bluegrass Pkwy or something like that, or it was one of the roads
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  that we took to get to each other.
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  It was just a bunch. It's just a long stretch of
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  nothing. The BGP does have a long stretch
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  where you you have to know to pee before you hit that long
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  stretch. Yeah, and I guess if you need
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  it. And I've never, like, taken a
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  like, I know that there are like long stretches of that, like in
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  Texas and stuff like that, where it's just in desert.
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  And yeah, the idea of that is just terrifying, being stranded
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  out there by yourself. And like them having the gas
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  tank so soon, they're saying like, what happens if you run
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  out of gas and then filling up that extra gas tank?
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  I was like, OK, that makes sense.
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  And then, like, what do you do in this situation where your car
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  just stops working? And I know that it's implied
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  that Mick fucked with their car while they're hiking, and that's
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  fine, but it's also weird that their watches would stop, too.
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  So that was just kind of a funny coincidence that happened at the
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  same time. So yeah, just being in a
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  situation where you're just insanely vulnerable and you're
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  like, kind of straddling the line of like, I'm really broke.
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  We don't know who this guy is. We need to get back to where
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  we're going. We're stranded.
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  What do we do? Do we just hope this guy isn't a
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  murderer? Like it, it feels very
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  realistic. And the the way things just like
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  turn so quickly. It goes from just like, you
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  know, an indie Rd. tripping movie to oh, we we're fighting
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  for survival. And the way it keeps shifting
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  focus between the characters that you never really have, like
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  a main character. And I also feel like that moment
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  at the like at Christie's death when he shoots her, it kind of
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  gives me the same feeling as in like terror fire where he's just
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  like done fucking with her and pulls out a gun.
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  Yeah, yeah. So I like there's just a lot of
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  moments where it's just like Grizzly and I think it's really
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  effective in that way. OK.
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  I agree with a lot of that right there.
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  Yeah. Like one of the things that I
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  thought was really cool about this movie is if you went into
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  this movie entirely blind, there is a chance that in the 1st 40
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  minutes, you think that you might be watching a UFO movie.
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  Yeah. Which I thought was really cool
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  because, like, I had forgotten about that being a part of it
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  until we rewatched it. Like, I think October is when we
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  last watched it. But like, it really does a good
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  job. Like, it is that type of movie.
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  Like, they are experiencing some weird shit that you're going to
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  wear. Me dear Landed suddenly way
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  their shit stops working. You know, I guess all the
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  makings of that type of movie and then suddenly Mick Taylor
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  shows up. Yeah, and that is such a fucking
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  good character. Like he is written and performed
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  so well. It was really weird when I was
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  like walking through the room and he would have his like
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  little moments on the behind the scenes and I'm like, I know that
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  that's him, but he sounds. Yeah, he just does such a good
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  job of he knows how to like turn it.
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  Like he has those moments where he is being very friendly and
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  just joking around and paling with him.
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  And then he also, it's, it's crazy because it's a very
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  distinct difference because he's also like that when he is
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  fucking with them. But it's much more menacing the
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  way he does it. And I don't know how to describe
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  that, but that takes some fucking talent to be able to do
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  that. It's.
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  Almost more menacing because he doesn't seem to change when he
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  is doing it. So you've got, like, these women
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  just bloody and screaming. And he is like, yeah, almost
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  more gleeful in the moment than he is when they're all, like,
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  chilling and laughing by the fire.
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  It's like it's true self. You can actually be him.
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  Yeah. And it's just so fucking well
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  done. The cat and mouse that goes on
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  in this is really well done. I just like how it, yeah, like
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  the the shift of it once they wake up and they are like all
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  tied up. It's just like, holy shit.
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  It's it kind of catches you off guard.
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  And it is so aggressive that it is just incredibly effective.
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  It's just really well done. I, I like this movie so much and
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  I like how they build up the relationship of everybody
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  beforehand. Like, we get to know these guys
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  for a while and they like have a very believable dynamic between
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  each other and it makes just seeing what all they go through
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  that much more painful. Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I just, they, they did a great job of this movie.
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  My bad. I'm going to disagree with you a
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  little bit because I feel like the Ben and Liz romance was a
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  little bit forced. OK.
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  I didn't feel that chemistry between them.
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  I think the closest I got was after they kissed their cute
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  like little like they both looked flustered and happy.
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  I think that was the most chemistry I felt between them.
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  But the way like they came in like sent something between you
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  guys and it seemed like there was more something between
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  Christy and Ben. So.
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  So let me go over something here.
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  Originally we watched the uncut version, OK, which does have
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  some differences. OK, So that moment with Christy
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  and Ben where they wake up next to each other in the bed after
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  that night of partying, that was a cut scene originally.
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  OK. That they removed because it
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  caused confusion of like the romantic dynamic between
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  everybody here. I feel that.
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  Yeah, which I don't think anything happened at that
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  moment. I just think that they got drunk
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  and they both fell asleep in the bed together.
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  I think the only thing that's a little bit confusing about it is
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  Chrissy's little smile when she gets up.
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  Yeah, a little bit, yeah, I mean.
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  Just a little sheepish, a little happy.
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  Yeah. So they they got rid of that.
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  The other cutscene, by the way, just to go ahead and get ahead
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  of that is when she finds the revolver and she goes or the
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  Magnum I guess, and like she goes down and finds all those
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  dead bodies. They cut that whole thing where
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  she like goes down there and finds all those dead bodies
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  because apparently it was too much so.
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  All right, that helps set up the sequel a lot better, though.
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  It does, because otherwise the sequel is like, whoa, what the
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  fuck? How?
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  How has he been? Where was he hiding this?
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  I mean, I've always thought, you know, it's the Outback, like,
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  you know, just leave it out there.
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  Nobody will find it. Like where people you don't know
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  where to look for this shit. OK.
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  But sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Oh, that was that was really my
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  biggest thing. It's just that like it felt, I
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  mean, yeah, it just felt a little bit forced.
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  OK, the only bad I have for this is it loses a tad bit of steam
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  in the second-half whenever it's like they they do all the things
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  too fast whenever Liz wakes up. Like, we could have hung there
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  at the camp for a little bit longer and like, have them have
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  his moment with all three of them.
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  But she gets escaped and gets Christie out of there so soon
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  that the movie is like, whoa, we got time left, what are we going
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  to do? Yeah, it does kind of feel like
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  that. Yeah, like so Ben.
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  They leave Ben like untouched until the end.
• 19:55
  Like we don't even see his show we we just see like glimpses of
• 19:58
  him waking up occasionally. I do think it's very realistic
• 20:02
  that like, both Liz and Ben had those moments when they're just
• 20:05
  like, ready to, they don't see the others around and they're
• 20:10
  like, I just got to assume that they're gone and I got to save
• 20:12
  myself. And if I can come back, I will.
• 20:14
  Like, they both had those moments.
• 20:15
  The only reason Liz turned back was because she heard Chrissy
• 20:17
  scream. Yeah.
• 20:19
  So I thought that was that was a realistic way for them to
• 20:21
  approach it. But I have other thoughts on
• 20:23
  that that I'll talk about in a second.
• 20:24
  OK, yeah, I agree with that. But like, yeah, it just, there's
• 20:27
  a little bit of meandering after that.
• 20:30
  Like it was just, you know, like he's looking for them and then
• 20:33
  he finds them and then he shoots them.
• 20:35
  And, you know, like, it could have been a little bit tighter,
• 20:38
  OK, in that area. Very ugly.
• 20:41
  Ugly honestly finding out that they shot at a murder site, even
• 20:45
  if it was unintentional, the fact that it was like at a
• 20:47
  murder site and like they're loosely based on actual real
• 20:50
  murders. No, I know that's probably
• 20:51
  crazy. It gives me the ick.
• 20:53
  I can't believe they did that. Yeah, my ugly was that scene
• 20:57
  with Christy with he's torturing her and she's tied to the post.
• 21:01
  Like, one of the things I was reading is during that scene,
• 21:06
  the actor that played Christie was so believable with her
• 21:10
  screaming that the women on set, like, were like, crying.
• 21:14
  Like, they're like, make it stop.
• 21:16
  Yeah. And I can understand that
• 21:18
  because what he is like doing with her is so fucked up.
• 21:21
  It is. It's upsetting.
• 21:23
  Yeah, it's a really, really upsetting scene.
• 21:25
  But you know, like that, unfortunately, that's just like
• 21:28
  one of these movies where we're following that kind of guy.
• 21:31
  So, you know, I hate to see it, but it plays well with the movie
• 21:35
  that we're doing here. Like, we know that he's kept
• 21:39
  people alive for months. And Christy, that's even one of
• 21:42
  those things she cries about at one point.
• 21:43
  Like, she's like, that's what's going to happen to us.
• 21:45
  We don't know what happened with Liz at the end.
• 21:48
  Yeah, she was still alive the last time we saw her, but she
• 21:50
  couldn't do anything to save herself.
• 21:52
  The only thing that I could take away from that is she doesn't
• 21:55
  feel any pain, but she still has to deal with it all mentally.
• 22:00
  Unfortunately, yeah. It it's so fucked up.
• 22:04
  Alright, like that it just it makes me feel a little empty and
• 22:08
  then in the movie it's. Dark.
• 22:09
  This movie gets really, really dark.
• 22:11
  Yeah. OK.
• 22:12
  Absurd. OK, so we already kind of talked
• 22:15
  about this. So Liz manages to get herself
• 22:18
  free. She wakes up.
• 22:19
  She wakes up in the morning. It takes her most of the day to
• 22:22
  be able to cut through the the zip ties with the glass.
• 22:26
  And I get that. Like, she was bloody by the end
• 22:28
  of it. She had her moment where she was
• 22:29
  like panicking, couldn't figure out what's happening.
• 22:31
  That's fine. I'll accept all of that.
• 22:33
  She's going to leave. She finds Ben's shoes.
• 22:35
  She's going to leave. And then she hears Christy
• 22:37
  screaming. So she's like, OK, well, I'm
• 22:38
  going to go save Christy. And then, you know, she asked
• 22:41
  Christy, have we seen Bendy? Nowhere.
• 22:42
  He has no. OK, cool.
• 22:43
  We need to prioritize just getting out.
• 22:46
  That's all fine. And then they're out driving,
• 22:49
  being followed, all of that all night.
• 22:52
  And then Christy goes back and it's the morning again.
• 22:54
  Or Liz goes back and then it's the morning again and Christy
• 22:58
  sees there's no Liz. So she's like, well, I'm just
• 22:59
  going to start walking slash running.
• 23:02
  And then that whole chase scene with her and Mick.
• 23:06
  And then it's night time again and it seems as though maybe Ben
• 23:10
  has just now woken up. Yeah, days.
• 23:13
  It it feels like, it feels like it doesn't follow.
• 23:18
  It's yeah, like I think that that's what we are meant to
• 23:22
  believe, that like he was out for days.
• 23:25
  But you know, I guess possibly it could have been any of those
• 23:28
  days that he like did that. Yeah, but he didn't hear like
• 23:31
  the screaming from Liz and Christy.
• 23:33
  I feel like he would have heard some of that at some point, but
• 23:36
  it seems like he got out after all of that other stuff went
• 23:39
  down. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:42
  So that's just that. It felt very much like, OK,
• 23:46
  we're just going to write Ben off is dead.
• 23:47
  We're ending on this bleak thing where, you know, make his shot,
• 23:51
  Christy. And then no, Ben's actually
• 23:53
  still alive and he's gotten a really long nap.
• 23:56
  Yeah, and he's the sole survivor.
• 23:57
  Yeah, yeah, I get that. It's like, I don't know, was Ben
• 24:05
  drinking more rainwater than the others?
• 24:07
  Like did he get more drugged? Was the aliens.
• 24:10
  This wasn't an Alien movie after all.
• 24:12
  Okay. My absurd.
• 24:14
  He was just like abducted in that 48 hours.
• 24:17
  I mean he was crucified dude. Like they thought he was Christ,
• 24:23
  like this Aussie bloke I have from my absurd just how he is
• 24:27
  able to find these people out in the Outback so easily when they
• 24:31
  get away. Like they could go any
• 24:33
  direction, but he knows exactly where to find them hours later.
• 24:37
  Like, like the next day later. You know what I mean?
• 24:41
  Yeah. Like, you don't know.
• 24:42
  There's no way you can know the Outback like the back of your
• 24:44
  hand like that. You know, it's just a that's
• 24:48
  just too, too open of a space for anybody to be able to like
• 24:52
  track down like. That it's very much a game of
• 24:54
  chance. Yeah, and he's so like he just
• 24:57
  gets them every. Time yeah, he just keeps
• 24:59
  falling. I wish I'd seen some of his
• 25:00
  failures. So I mean like even if you go
• 25:02
  into the the TV series which we watched the first season of it.
• 25:05
  That's good. I liked.
• 25:06
  It but it was like very similar. It was like every single person
• 25:09
  he came across ends up dead. Yeah, so.
• 25:12
  He always wins. But then again, he does say, you
• 25:15
  know, like, you never know where I'm gonna pop up.
• 25:18
  Yeah. All right.
• 25:21
  So we were. Do we write it?
• 25:23
  Yeah. OK.
• 25:25
  Do you want me to go first? No, it's OK.
• 25:27
  I'll go first. I love this movie.
• 25:29
  Man, this movie is so effective. I'm gonna give it a nine.
• 25:33
  I'm gonna give it a 7. All right, so we have a string
• 25:36
  average of 8. Cool, cool.
• 25:39
  All right, let's get into it. So we found out based on actual
• 25:44
  events, every year 30,000 people are reported missing in the
• 25:47
  Outback. 90% are found within months months.
• 25:53
  I said a month. A month?
• 25:54
  OK, I wrote. Months.
• 25:56
  All right. A month.
• 25:57
  Still, that's a lot. Yeah, others never found.
• 25:59
  Ever. We cut to Broome W Australia
• 26:03
  1999. We see Ben.
• 26:06
  He and I love the captions in this movie on our DVD because we
• 26:10
  do not get these characters goddamn names until 20 to 30
• 26:13
  minutes in. Yeah, I.
• 26:15
  And the captions just keep saying man, woman one woman 2
• 26:19
  and then eventually it's like Ben woman one woman 2, then Ben
• 26:22
  Christie woman like. They they always refer to Ben as
• 26:26
  Mel, like me out the gate. I called, I called the spade the
• 26:32
  spade. He's a bloke.
• 26:33
  He said yeah, he has a bloke. I was like, a bloke buys a
• 26:36
  beater, he's like right out the gate Which?
• 26:38
  And the guy's being a creep and Ben is not having it.
• 26:42
  What's he being a creep about though?
• 26:44
  He's just like, don't do anything that I wouldn't.
• 26:46
  Do because he said oh sheilas are always so much easier when
• 26:49
  you're Rd. tripping. Oh, I didn't get you.
• 26:52
  Yeah. Oh, OK.
• 26:53
  Yeah. That's like, and that's kind of
• 26:55
  Ben's whole thing, which is why, like I think the ending is
• 26:58
  really interesting because like all of these men are being
• 27:01
  absolute creeps and like he doesn't condone it, but also
• 27:04
  like he doesn't end up doing anything.
• 27:06
  And the two women he's travelling with and murdered by
• 27:10
  this creep. And he he.
• 27:11
  Doesn't do anything. Yeah, he's napping the whole
• 27:14
  time. He's really good.
• 27:16
  I just end like fuck you and then peace and.
• 27:19
  And then we see Christy and Liz are working on postcards to
• 27:23
  their family. They they don't end up dropping
• 27:25
  them off, which I feel like is weird.
• 27:27
  Yeah, it seems like they would have dropped them off before
• 27:29
  they went on their trip cuz they've got a three-week trip
• 27:32
  planned, just the three of them. Christy's trying to encourage
• 27:36
  Liz to go for it. She was like, I think Ben likes
• 27:38
  you. And she goes, we need to figure
• 27:39
  this out. We need to figure out if the
• 27:40
  girlfriend in Sydney's real, cuz like, I can't spend 3 weeks of
• 27:45
  like, reading into his every move.
• 27:47
  Yeah. And then we see Ben takes the
• 27:49
  cartoon mechanic. Because if you buy a car for
• 27:52
  1500 cash, you want to make sure it's working well.
• 27:55
  I have heard that this is like a legit strategy, like if you are
• 27:58
  like travelling to another country and you just want like a
• 28:02
  rental vehicle, like it's better to just buy a beater than to
• 28:05
  rent a vehicle for weeks because you save money overall.
• 28:09
  Yeah. And I'll let you do your
• 28:12
  impression of this mechanic and Ben to get working together.
• 28:18
  OK, so let's get some back story because Jesse and I attended a
• 28:22
  wrestling event over the summer and there was this one wrestler
• 28:26
  who has probably my all time favorite gimmick of Annie
• 28:29
  wrestler where all he does is go Yep, Yep, it's so fucking
• 28:36
  infectious. So like as soon as you hear it,
• 28:39
  you just got to go. Yep, you got it.
• 28:41
  When you hear a Yip, you got to give a Yip and and.
• 28:44
  Ben learns this and you see him very quickly learn to embrace
• 28:48
  the he. He goes through the same
• 28:50
  emotions I went through that day.
• 28:51
  So like he's got the mechanic there and the mechanic is like
• 28:55
  doing something. So like every time like Ben,
• 28:57
  like I think he like gives a gas or something.
• 29:00
  Like the guy's checking something and his word to go
• 29:04
  against Yep. So basically they're just like
• 29:06
  going Yep, Yep, back to each other.
• 29:08
  It's just like Ben starts to smile and he starts to enjoy it.
• 29:12
  And I don't know. I fucking loved it.
• 29:14
  That was. So far.
• 29:16
  Set the wrestling show? Yep.
• 29:18
  Yep, man. So Liz and Christy have gotten
• 29:24
  food, he's got the car and they're going to leave the next
• 29:29
  day, so they need to get a good night's sleep in bed by 9:30.
• 29:32
  But instead, all of their friends that they've been with
• 29:35
  for the past two weeks in Broome throw them a going away party
• 29:38
  and they're drunk and in the pool.
• 29:40
  Liz falls asleep on the beach. Dude, I'm going to say I think
• 29:44
  Ben, when he jumped into the water like the pool with the
• 29:48
  boogie board, he almost fucking like slapped the side of his
• 29:52
  head on the cement. Did you see that?
• 29:55
  I didn't see it, but boogie boards and pool is not a good
• 29:59
  combination when you're sober and Ben was incredibly far from
• 30:02
  sober. It's also, it was a tiny pool.
• 30:04
  It was really narrow. Like he gets in there and he
• 30:07
  just like goes sideways and he's like an inch away from busting
• 30:10
  his head open on the side of that.
• 30:11
  Like, I could not believe, man. Anyways, yeah, they, they, they
• 30:16
  party hard. Yeah.
• 30:17
  Like it's just like a whole montage for them partying and
• 30:20
  then wake up next morning hungover.
• 30:23
  Ben is in bed with. Christy But they're like
• 30:27
  opposite ends, like heads to feet, pants off.
• 30:31
  So we don't know what happened. I think that they just like they
• 30:36
  got, they got drunk and they're like, I don't want to sleep in
• 30:39
  my jeans. I'm going to take my pants off.
• 30:41
  We're cool about this, right? Yeah.
• 30:43
  I mean, if you're going to be on a three-week road trip with
• 30:46
  somebody, like at some point, you got to be comfortable with
• 30:49
  them taking their pants off. Yeah, well, I mean you don't
• 30:51
  have to always do it in the same.
• 30:52
  Room. No, you do.
• 30:54
  That's the rules of Rd. trips. Travis, I'm sorry to tell you
• 30:56
  you don't know because you've only ever Rd. tripped with me
• 30:59
  and we're allowed to take our pants off with each other.
• 31:02
  That's fair. That's fair.
• 31:04
  So yeah, she like has this whole awkward thing in the morning
• 31:06
  where she's just kind of getting ready and seems to be somewhat
• 31:10
  smiling about it. Yeah, but.
• 31:12
  Also, Liz has woken up on the beach next to other dudes and
• 31:18
  she takes off her top and goes into the water and just like,
• 31:21
  you know, kind of gives herself a little bath.
• 31:24
  I don't think she wants to leave Broom.
• 31:26
  I don't think she does either. But also here kind of like, I
• 31:28
  guess like she did her own little scandalous thing where
• 31:31
  you had a little bit of nudity around other people, you know,
• 31:34
  so, you know, whatever tit for tat people don't really take
• 31:38
  getting naked around each other. That's seriously over there.
• 31:43
  Not that big of a. Don't you'll laugh at that joke
• 31:44
  when you're editing. Tit for tat?
• 31:46
  Nope. What'd?
• 31:46
  You say I said tit for tit. Tit for tit, yeah.
• 31:51
  So they go to like they start their road trip.
• 31:54
  Like we have a whole montage of them, you know, do unbelievable
• 31:57
  road trip type things. It's a good time arguing about
• 32:00
  who's going to drive. Different people are sleeping in
• 32:02
  the back seats. It's fun.
• 32:05
  And we see that, like at night, they're either staying at cheap
• 32:08
  hotels or they're camping. Yeah.
• 32:10
  So they are camping at this caravan park and.
• 32:15
  Star gazing. I dude, star gazing out in like
• 32:18
  the in nowhere. That's one of my favorite parts
• 32:21
  about going back like to Harlem is you don't have white
• 32:25
  pollutions. You can just see all of the
• 32:27
  stars down there. It's fucking amazing.
• 32:29
  Yeah, I love just being able to see how many stars there really
• 32:35
  are. It's.
• 32:37
  Yeah, if you don't know, if you live in a populated area that
• 32:39
  has a lot of lights, you don't really get a true idea of how
• 32:43
  many, just like the stars, because the white pollution you
• 32:45
  can't see. The movie, it almost looks fake.
• 32:48
  There's so many stars. Yeah, but it's real.
• 32:50
  It's really cool and this gets been talking about UFOs.
• 32:56
  Reluctantly they have to pull it out because they started making
• 32:58
  fun of him. But no no no, go on.
• 32:59
  What are you talking about? But Ben legitimately believes in
• 33:02
  UFOs. Yeah.
• 33:03
  Like, I could just see in another world he's having this
• 33:08
  conversation with people. Like, OK, Ben's being Ben again.
• 33:10
  Yeah. It feels real.
• 33:13
  And like, he's telling various stories, like, you know, the
• 33:14
  same like urban legend that you get from anybody who believes in
• 33:20
  UFOs. Just like out in the middle of
• 33:22
  nowhere, somebody gets picked up and abducted.
• 33:24
  Yep, Bada Bing bada boom. And so the next day, they're
• 33:27
  driving to Emu Creek. They stop at like a gas station
• 33:35
  slash diner. Ben's using his camcorder and
• 33:38
  he's like, you know, take in video footage.
• 33:41
  He's trying to do like a. Shatner Yeah.
• 33:43
  It's like no signs of intelligent life.
• 33:46
  And then he gets Graham to introduce himself on camera.
• 33:50
  Graham comes across here for a second as a creep, but Graham's
• 33:53
  a real 1. I think, yeah, I think he's just
• 33:55
  like. Awkward.
• 33:57
  Yeah, he's like he works with those assholes like cuz he knows
• 34:00
  all of them by name. Like he's like Baz.
• 34:01
  Leave him alone like he. He was so fucking real in the
• 34:04
  moment there. He's like, ah, Baz, don't be a
• 34:06
  dickhead. Yeah, He's like, thank you.
• 34:09
  And. I like seeing that little guy go
• 34:10
  against that big guy. I was like, you know what,
• 34:12
  Graham? He's the Barton.
• 34:13
  He's the Yeah, he runs the place moving.
• 34:15
  You to a better list? Yeah, but yeah, the men insider
• 34:19
  being way too fucking bold with the things they're saying.
• 34:22
  Yeah, he calls because Liz and Chrissy go in there to get some
• 34:26
  shit and Ben follows. And then they call Ben over and
• 34:29
  they're like, hey, Ben, they know Ben, they don't.
• 34:33
  They're like, we just wanted to ask if you thought it was OK if,
• 34:37
  you know, we kind of take a go at your ladies over there.
• 34:39
  And he just kind of stares at them and doesn't say anything.
• 34:43
  And then. I appreciate that Liz and Chris
• 34:45
  are like, no, like it's they're being creeps.
• 34:48
  You don't need to get in a fight with them.
• 34:49
  I like this because that is a reality.
• 34:55
  Like, you know, I said it's a common theme of been like not
• 34:58
  doing anything. And I'm not saying I'm not
• 35:00
  saying that as a judgement call. I'm just saying like, that's
• 35:04
  like kind of the running theme throughout the movie.
• 35:06
  And that's a thing that, like, I know everybody at some point
• 35:11
  generally tends to experience harassment of some sort, but it
• 35:14
  disproportionately effects women.
• 35:16
  And for the most part, as a woman, you're facing this stuff
• 35:19
  in public, and the most thing you want to do is just get out
• 35:22
  of there alive and unhurt. And fighting back is not the way
• 35:25
  to do that most of the time. Yeah, I mean, that's true for
• 35:28
  like other people too. Like, I mean the same thing like
• 35:30
  if like got into a fight and he's got numbers against him and
• 35:37
  these guys are unhinged, you know, like they could take it
• 35:39
  far and like he could end up like life altering.
• 35:42
  Yeah, and like I think he's got the.
• 35:44
  Swallow your pride and just, you know, like walk away.
• 35:48
  Exactly that's what I think it is like he had that prideful
• 35:50
  moment where he was like, I should have said something to
• 35:52
  them and was in Chris here, but like no, you fucking shouldn't.
• 35:54
  Like do you know how many times we've experienced this type of
• 35:57
  shit? You did the right thing, he.
• 35:58
  He does say something to him and he's like, fuck off then.
• 36:01
  And then the guy's like, what'd you say?
• 36:02
  He's like I said, you got a awfully pretty smile, which I
• 36:06
  thought that that was a pretty good one.
• 36:08
  That kind of shuts him up and everybody laughs at him.
• 36:10
  Yeah, but then yeah, it's like a show Tai Chi.
• 36:15
  So they are worried about like, the fact that it seems like it's
• 36:19
  going to rain and Ben's like, yeah, it's a rainy season, I
• 36:21
  guess. Apparently, no.
• 36:22
  Apparently that was a Yeah, they they had to work this thing in
• 36:25
  there. They see a sign for Wolf Creek
• 36:28
  crater. There's a walking trail that
• 36:30
  takes about 3 hours. I saw no trail but.
• 36:34
  Yeah, I didn't see a trail. Either.
• 36:36
  But yeah, no camping, no fire and all that.
• 36:39
  So yeah, they they make the trip, they go up there, they
• 36:42
  have a little picnic, then we have a moment where Liz steps
• 36:47
  away for herself. I don't know what she's doing,
• 36:49
  but. Looking at the crater.
• 36:51
  Ben follows and they have a moment together and they kiss.
• 36:53
  Yeah, I do think they're a little bit cute after.
• 36:56
  It's the way they're both like, excited, but shy and lame.
• 36:59
  Oh, I just did that. Yeah.
• 37:01
  So now they're heading back down to the vehicle.
• 37:05
  And the Christy and Ben both realize that their watches have
• 37:09
  stopped. And then they get in the car and
• 37:10
  he's like, make sure you warm it up before we start going.
• 37:12
  And it's this is dead dead. This is not even like about
• 37:16
  like, oh, did you leave the lights on?
• 37:18
  Cuz your car will usually still make a.
• 37:21
  Yeah, you're not even gonna. Kind of a sound, yeah.
• 37:24
  It's just like a nothing, no sound.
• 37:26
  Yeah, something that's completely disconnected that's
• 37:28
  annoying cuz like he he yupped, he yupped so much for this car
• 37:33
  and he's like I like it was working perfectly and he's like,
• 37:36
  it's probably the battery terminals.
• 37:40
  Yeah, he. Doesn't fucking know this.
• 37:41
  Is another relatable moment. He's like, pop the hood and then
• 37:44
  him and Chrissy go out there and Chrissy's like, so you don't
• 37:48
  know what you're doing, do you? He's like, don't tell me this.
• 37:52
  And then Chrissy gets back in the car and she's like, you
• 37:55
  heard all that, didn't you? Yeah, yeah.
• 37:58
  So like they're like, fuck it. Like we got to camp here.
• 38:01
  We don't really have any other options.
• 38:02
  Yeah, it's getting dark out. It's going to be cold.
• 38:04
  We're just going to have to sleep in the car and they're
• 38:09
  talking a little bit. Ben is theorizing about UFOs
• 38:12
  again, which honestly, I if I didn't know how this movie went,
• 38:17
  like, I feel like, yeah, their watches are soft.
• 38:19
  Their car is dead. This.
• 38:21
  If you went into this movie 100% blind, you would think you're
• 38:23
  about to watch a UFO movie. You know what would fit
• 38:25
  perfectly in that crater? Our stereotypical idea of a
• 38:29
  saucer shaped UFO. Yeah, you're right.
• 38:32
  Yeah, perfectly. It's a possibility.
• 38:35
  So instead we see, oh, I pull up from behind and they go out and
• 38:40
  they see it is Nick Taylor. He offers to take a look, and he
• 38:46
  says, yeah, your coil's rooted. I don't know.
• 38:48
  I don't know what these things mean.
• 38:50
  If some man pulled up and said that, I'd be like, sure, yeah, I
• 38:54
  like, he's like, I can tell you I've got the parts to fix it,
• 38:57
  but we had to go back the way I'm from.
• 39:00
  And Liz and Christy are both like, you can ask him to toast
• 39:04
  to town. And I get that.
• 39:06
  I honestly agree with that sentiment.
• 39:08
  Like, let's see what we can do. And he goes, well, I'm going
• 39:12
  South. Town's north.
• 39:13
  Yeah. I can't.
• 39:14
  I can't take you that way. I kind of like how you guys are
• 39:17
  like, yeah, you see the problem here?
• 39:19
  I'm going. You want to go north?
• 39:21
  I'm going South. Yeah.
• 39:23
  So those opposite directions, yeah.
• 39:25
  And Ben's like, OK, here's the thing though.
• 39:30
  How much do you need for a new coil?
• 39:32
  He's like, I'm not gonna charge ya.
• 39:35
  Sorry. I'm I'm gonna try not to do that
• 39:37
  accent too much, but it sometimes it just slips.
• 39:39
  Out it's that's just how you feel it.
• 39:41
  Yeah, yeah. And yeah, like thoroughly.
• 39:43
  They don't have to pay. So like, I guess we can go with
• 39:45
  them. And I will say, like there are
• 39:47
  some parts in this movie where I'm like, we're getting just a
• 39:50
  lot of extra shots. I like them of these, how long
• 39:53
  these shots are lingering as they're towing because you feel
• 39:58
  how long this toe is. Yeah, yeah, 'cause like he was
• 40:01
  like, it's not going to be a long drive, but they're going
• 40:03
  for hours. Yeah, like at one point, like
• 40:05
  Ben's, like it can't be that much longer now.
• 40:08
  And either Christy or Luz is like, that's what you said an
• 40:10
  hour ago. It's Christy, which is why I
• 40:12
  never believed that they had any romantic thing because they're
• 40:14
  going back and forth the entire time.
• 40:16
  He even calls her a bitch like back at like the car thing
• 40:18
  because she's giving him shit about knowing not knowing what
• 40:21
  to do with the car. You know, yeah.
• 40:22
  I mean, like, what, what can you do in this situation?
• 40:24
  You either camp or you like, let this guy tell you, like you're
• 40:27
  kind of at the mercy of, unfortunately, this situation
• 40:30
  here. And then they're there, they're
• 40:33
  in like this abandoned town. He's like, there's lots of
• 40:36
  abandoned places like this in the Outback, like, and you can
• 40:38
  find all kinds of interesting stuff.
• 40:40
  You know, there's like a whole workshop here.
• 40:41
  That's how I'm gonna be able to fix your car.
• 40:43
  And they're sitting around the fire and they're drinking.
• 40:46
  And Ben is bad with the social cues, like cuz Nick is talking
• 40:52
  about how it used to be a shooter.
• 40:54
  You know, it's like he'd shoot predatory animals and they would
• 40:56
  get, you know, near whatever it was that he was working with.
• 41:01
  Was it the mines? Maybe?
• 41:02
  Yeah, I think so. You know, and he's like, yeah,
• 41:04
  but then they switched to different methods, so don't need
• 41:08
  me anymore. And Ben's like, but you have all
• 41:10
  this freedom. It's so great.
• 41:13
  It would be like one of those kids in Texas Chainsaw here in
• 41:17
  the Hitchhiker. Talk about not having a job at
• 41:21
  the the. The Slaughterhouse.
• 41:23
  Slaughterhouse anymore being like but yeah, look what you get
• 41:25
  to do. You get to just like walk around
• 41:28
  hot ass Texas like. Bins are blowing.
• 41:30
  Such great freedom. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:32
  And he's also like, yeah, I mean, you get to go around and
• 41:35
  be like the stereotypical guy and be like, that's not a knife.
• 41:38
  Yes, it's a knife. Yeah.
• 41:40
  And I, I love the look that makes shoots him and just, he
• 41:44
  just kind of like does that thing where he sits back and
• 41:46
  just kind of like gives him that judgmental look and he just like
• 41:48
  keeps it on him for a long time to where everybody gets
• 41:51
  uncomfortable. Yeah.
• 41:52
  And then he says, well, I, I do everybody a favor anyway,
• 41:55
  shooting those Kangaroos, they're a pest, just like
• 41:58
  Taurus. Everybody laughs a little bit
• 42:01
  too hard. Yeah, So Mick goes to work on
• 42:03
  their car and Liz, like, tells bankers he's like, y'all need to
• 42:07
  be nicer. He's doing a favor for us.
• 42:11
  You just made him mad. Also, we don't know this guy.
• 42:14
  Yeah. And she goes and tries to talk
• 42:16
  to him. She's like, it'd be good to be
• 42:17
  able to leave soon. He goes.
• 42:18
  Yeah. You all right as you do when
• 42:21
  you're working on. Vehicles, yes, that's the only
• 42:23
  way you can't work on a vehicle. Yeah, they are laying down near
• 42:29
  the fire and it seems like they're all super sleepy, which
• 42:33
  has been a long day. It's kind of believable.
• 42:36
  But like the way Liz is, because she's always been the very
• 42:38
  uptight 1, making sure everything is packed right.
• 42:40
  Like she's she's making sure they're not going to die in the
• 42:42
  Outback. That's her role.
• 42:44
  And that their cooler is really close to the fire.
• 42:47
  It's like between Ben and the fire.
• 42:49
  And she's like, hey, Ben, move the esky away from the fire.
• 42:52
  And then she just seems to kind of drift off, which is weird for
• 42:55
  her from what we've seen. So I think there's like those
• 42:57
  nice little moments that you feel something's off.
• 42:59
  Yeah, something's yeah wrong there.
• 43:01
  And we know for sure the next morning when she wakes up in the
• 43:04
  shed and she's tied. Yeah, Yep.
• 43:07
  And she like, we go through this really fast, but she's like
• 43:11
  there a whole day and she finds a glass Shard and she just like
• 43:14
  cuts herself loose and freeze herself.
• 43:17
  Yes. And she manages to get out and
• 43:22
  she looks around. She goes to their car, the
• 43:25
  entire engine's pulled apart. And she's like, well, I can't
• 43:28
  put that back together. I like that he still did the
• 43:31
  work of pulling it apart. It was both good like as a cover
• 43:34
  for him, but also made sure that if you know she was able to cut
• 43:37
  out of her zip ties that they don't have a way on.
• 43:40
  Well, he's got several working cars here.
• 43:41
  I, I the way I took it is he like, this is how he makes his
• 43:45
  money. He like sells the parts.
• 43:47
  Yeah, yeah, I could see that. So she's kind of rummaging
• 43:51
  around and she's about to leave, but then she suddenly hears a
• 43:53
  scream. And it's Christy, Yeah.
• 43:56
  So she goes and investigates, and she starts peeking in
• 43:58
  through the window. Yeah, it's like a garage type
• 44:01
  setup and Christy is tied to a post in there and Mick is like
• 44:05
  shooting at her. She's bloody and she doesn't
• 44:08
  have pants on and I don't want to think about what's been
• 44:09
  happening happening for the whole day.
• 44:11
  Yeah, yeah. Because it's not good.
• 44:13
  He's torturing her. And so she decides that she's
• 44:17
  going to make a distraction. So she.
• 44:19
  Yeah, yeah. So she goes and she gets the
• 44:23
  gasoline and she put pours it all over the car and she lights
• 44:29
  it on fire and causes a big explosion.
• 44:31
  And Mick comes out and he's just like, of course Mick, like he's
• 44:35
  like beating. On fire.
• 44:36
  Yeah, he was like, I was dumb. She goes to get Chrissy out, but
• 44:42
  Mick comes back before she can get her, like, completely
• 44:44
  united. And he starts being really
• 44:47
  vulgar and scary and saying like, oh, I love you wiggling
• 44:52
  towards which this is where we think Liz gonna be our bad ass
• 44:55
  final girl. She's got the gun.
• 44:57
  She's like, let her go. And she he's like, you're not
• 45:01
  gonna do anything Like that gun doesn't work.
• 45:03
  It's not even loaded. And so Chrissy shoots his ear.
• 45:07
  Was that what it was? I thought he like nicked his
• 45:09
  neck. It hit something I it.
• 45:12
  Was kind of a dark shot, yeah. And.
• 45:13
  If he was hit in the ear, we wouldn't know.
• 45:15
  Ears notoriously recover almost instantly from being shot.
• 45:20
  Yeah, so there's no way to know. He might have been shot in the
• 45:23
  ear. They heal quickly.
• 45:25
  That's true. That's true.
• 45:27
  Either way, it's a good shot and it's enough for him to collapse.
• 45:30
  Yep, and she, she can't get it to shoot again.
• 45:34
  And like Christy and I both go hit him.
• 45:37
  Yeah. And so she but she does a few
• 45:39
  weak sauce hits. It's weak and but she also.
• 45:41
  Like she hasn't eaten anything today or.
• 45:44
  Any water, adrenaline, adrenaline will get you through
• 45:46
  this one. And also, yes, in the head, like
• 45:50
  you with the butt of a gun, you can cave ahead and yes, like I'm
• 45:53
  sorry, but this is where we're at right now.
• 45:56
  I'm caving in a head. Yes, you know.
• 45:58
  He drugged us and definitely tortured Christy and was going
• 46:03
  to torture Liz next, probably. So yeah, they get out, they get
• 46:07
  into his truck, but there's no keys.
• 46:12
  So she's got to go back. She's got to get the keys.
• 46:14
  She gets them from him. But he wakes up as she's getting
• 46:17
  out into the car and he's got the gun and he's shooting at
• 46:20
  them and Liz Rams into the garage.
• 46:25
  Slash, Mick and I love the smoke.
• 46:28
  She's like, hold on. And they slam in there and then
• 46:31
  they drive off. And as they drive off, because
• 46:33
  there's no other lights around, the headlights from the other
• 46:37
  vehicle he has make it very clear that he's following.
• 46:40
  So Liz, again, her bad ass final girl misdirect a moment 'cause
• 46:46
  she's like, all right, we're gonna stop at this Cliff and
• 46:48
  we're gonna just push the truck over.
• 46:49
  So that way he sees it going over the edge and he thinks
• 46:51
  we're gonna be in it. And he pulls up and they have to
• 46:55
  like, also hide over the edge because there's nowhere else for
• 46:57
  them to hide in this area. And so he's looking around and
• 47:01
  then he decides he's going to go check the truck to make sure
• 47:03
  they're not in there. And Liz and Christy get out and
• 47:06
  they're trying to walk. He's just like, we have to get
• 47:08
  another vehicle. We can't walk all this way.
• 47:09
  He'll find us way too easily. We've got to go try and take one
• 47:13
  of these vehicles. Christy's not doing so good.
• 47:16
  And remember, she is bloody and has been tortured all day and
• 47:20
  like psychologically and physically she is not in a good
• 47:23
  place to go. Like steal a car from her would
• 47:26
  be murderer. So Liz is like, I'm going to do
• 47:29
  it myself, OK? I'll be faster without you.
• 47:31
  Give me 5 minutes, bitch. It's going to take you more than
• 47:34
  5 minutes to walk there. Yeah.
• 47:36
  Well, she, she knows that she's gone.
• 47:39
  Yeah, she's she's basically like she's going to run off at this
• 47:42
  point. So yeah, she makes it back
• 47:44
  there. She finds this little area like
• 47:47
  that. He has a has a bunch of
• 47:49
  clippings of his victims that he's had.
• 47:52
  Wait, yeah, there's news of missing people.
• 47:54
  We see like passport photos, IDs, we see pictures of his
• 47:58
  weaponry. We see actual weapons on this
• 48:01
  table. Yeah, and one of them is a
• 48:03
  magnum, which she takes and she finds the bullets for and loads.
• 48:07
  And she looks for Ben a little bit.
• 48:08
  She's just, you know, she's like, Chrissy was still alive,
• 48:10
  maybe been still alive. And she climbs down into this
• 48:13
  mine shaft and this is where Mick has been storing his body.
• 48:17
  Yeah, and she was as her magnum in there too, her revolver.
• 48:20
  I don't know. It's a gun.
• 48:23
  Yeah, I just wrote Gun. I wasn't getting that.
• 48:27
  I'm thinking detail. It's a magnum.
• 48:28
  It's a Magnum either way. I've never heard you talk about
• 48:31
  guns before, and the fact that you're so confident this is a
• 48:34
  magnum is. Video games.
• 48:36
  OK, never mind. Yeah, that actually.
• 48:39
  Explains it. Magnum's one of my favorite
• 48:41
  handgun. Always.
• 48:42
  I always choose the Magnum. All right.
• 48:45
  So yeah, she freaks out when she sees all the bodies and runs
• 48:48
  back up. Yeah.
• 48:49
  And then? She makes into this garage
• 48:52
  basically where he's stored a bunch of other vehicles.
• 48:54
  Yeah. And like one of the things that
• 48:57
  we we didn't even see was belongings from other people
• 49:03
  he's murdered. One of them is like a camcorder.
• 49:05
  And we see a family and like they're having fun and we see
• 49:09
  similar situations like their car isn't working.
• 49:11
  They get a tow from him and it's taking a million years.
• 49:14
  And we see like him saying the same thing about like the
• 49:16
  rainwater like. Dude, the dark thing about that
• 49:18
  is they had a child there too. I know.
• 49:21
  Yeah, Like that. That was dark.
• 49:23
  A lot of the unsaid things in this movie are what's scary,
• 49:26
  yeah. And then she also finds Ben's
• 49:29
  camcorder and she plays the footage that he recorded and you
• 49:32
  see at the gas station when he was recording that Mick's truck
• 49:36
  was there at the gas station, too.
• 49:37
  Yep. So he was watching them the
• 49:39
  entire time. She's trying out different cars.
• 49:43
  She gets one to start and she is about to leave.
• 49:47
  Mick's in the back seat and he's got probably the same knife that
• 49:52
  Susan used to cut a Valentine's Day cake in X-ray.
• 49:56
  See. Nick, what are you doing?
• 49:57
  This is a cake cutting knife. You shouldn't be using this as
• 49:59
  sad people. It goes all the way through the
• 50:03
  seat and then all the way through Liz and she falls out of
• 50:07
  the car and she's trying to get away.
• 50:09
  And basically he's like, listen, you're not going to get away.
• 50:15
  I didn't get some information from you about Christy.
• 50:19
  And she's got like a little pocket knife she's trying to
• 50:21
  hold up to defend herself. And then he says that's not a
• 50:23
  knife. This is a.
• 50:25
  Knife and he swats at her, cuts off three of her fingers and
• 50:31
  truthfully most of the 4th it just is attached by a little
• 50:34
  skin which is excellent. Like attention to detail on the
• 50:38
  effects people like that they have that other like it hit it
• 50:42
  but didn't go all the way through.
• 50:44
  It's it's really good. And then he says he's gonna make
• 50:48
  a head on the stick. Yeah, you're like, what the fuck
• 50:51
  is that? Like her head on a Pike?
• 50:53
  No, he's going to take the knife and sever her spinal cord and
• 50:58
  now she's a head on the stick. That little as she realizes
• 51:02
  what's happening and this would be bad for anybody.
• 51:04
  But we've also seen Liz is a very outdoorsy person.
• 51:07
  Yeah, like it just feels like an act, like it's, it's terrible to
• 51:11
  do this to anybody. Don't get.
• 51:13
  It's so fucked. But like, that's a huge part of
• 51:15
  her identity and her hobbies and whatnot is that she's a very
• 51:18
  athletic, outdoorsy person. It's sad.
• 51:21
  He takes it pretty far there. So she's paralyzed and yeah, we
• 51:25
  don't know what happens with her.
• 51:27
  Yeah, and it's we've only seen the sequel once.
• 51:30
  I don't remember if we ever get any kind of like AI don't think
• 51:33
  resolution. There they might touch on it.
• 51:36
  So he's like, all right, now about Christie.
• 51:39
  So we now cut to Christie, who has continued to wander through
• 51:42
  the Outback and she's managed to find a Rd.
• 51:45
  Yeah, she, she's like, is alternating between running and
• 51:47
  walking and she gets to a road and this old man, he's just
• 51:51
  planning to go fishing, maybe. He looks like a fisherman movie.
• 51:55
  I don't know where he's fishing at, but that's that's the vibe
• 51:57
  he's giving. Flat fishing.
• 52:00
  I don't even know what fly fishing is to be honest.
• 52:03
  Really real, I thought that you use the flies as bait in fly
• 52:06
  fishing. I don't know what fly fishing
• 52:08
  is. Can I can we do a quick Google?
• 52:10
  Can we all learn together? See, I always think of that
• 52:12
  episode of King of the Hill where Hank Fly fishes with God.
• 52:17
  Why can I think of his name? Fawns.
• 52:21
  Henry Winkler. OK, yeah, Reddit.
• 52:24
  Explain what? Explain like I'm 5.
• 52:28
  Cool. Oh my God.
• 52:32
  Oh my God. OK, yeah, it's the lures.
• 52:34
  They're called flies. Is the short version of this.
• 52:37
  This person broke it down a lot more and there's a lot of
• 52:40
  fishing that's. Not how you talk.
• 52:41
  To a vocabulary in here that I'm not ready about.
• 52:44
  Yeah, it it's it's a type of fishing, but it's you use the
• 52:48
  fly as bait in the fly might not always be a family.
• 52:52
  So there you go. I'm not.
• 52:56
  That didn't resolve anything for me.
• 52:58
  It's OK. We don't need to resolve it
• 53:00
  here. Yeah, it's OK.
• 53:01
  Because you know what happens? This guy notices that his drink
• 53:04
  is shot. I was like, what the fuck is
• 53:06
  that? That.
• 53:06
  Was such a good shot because he sets his like coffee on the roof
• 53:09
  of his car. Relatable move.
• 53:11
  We've all done that at some point.
• 53:12
  Do that everyday. Yeah, he's trying to get a
• 53:14
  blanket for Christy. This little old man is We think
• 53:16
  he's going to save Christy's life.
• 53:18
  And then he comes back up from his trunk and he's like, oh,
• 53:21
  what the fuck, my fairness is bleeding.
• 53:24
  And then his head explodes. Yeah, like.
• 53:27
  And they did such a good shot, too, because we see the flash
• 53:29
  from the rifle and yeah, and Christy's like, OK.
• 53:35
  She so she's like, she sees that he's driving to over to her now,
• 53:41
  so she goes out and gets the keys from the guy, gets the car
• 53:44
  to start and starts driving herself.
• 53:47
  Mick has just been waiting. He's been daring her to go.
• 53:50
  And unfortunately her car is fucking slow.
• 53:53
  Yeah, and his car is fast. But she ends up running him off
• 53:56
  the road. Yeah.
• 53:57
  Like he's just run off the road. It's not like a big wreck or
• 54:00
  anything. Yeah.
• 54:00
  He doesn't flip. He just, yeah.
• 54:01
  Yeah, so he takes his gun shoes out when it retires does cause a
• 54:05
  wreck. Yeah, she flips.
• 54:07
  Yes. And she tries to get like, she
• 54:10
  crawls out of the car and then he shoots her and that's it.
• 54:15
  Like he takes her body, takes the fisherman's body, puts him
• 54:18
  in the trunk, prints the car. Yep.
• 54:21
  So now over to Ben. That's right, he's still around.
• 54:24
  He's just. Not wakes up still alive.
• 54:25
  Ben is very well rested. Ben has been crucified.
• 54:28
  Yeah, yeah, he's actually. Yeah, it's been 2, maybe 3 days.
• 54:35
  Oh, my God, Yeah, He's risen. Ben has risen.
• 54:40
  Wow. You know, maybe he becomes a
• 54:42
  prophet after this. Maybe.
• 54:44
  I think he does. He does get unfairly jailed.
• 54:47
  He does. Yeah.
• 54:49
  My God, it's been Jesus the second coming.
• 54:57
  Wow. We just cracked this code.
• 55:00
  That's the alien zoo tag. And they were like, you're
• 55:02
  crying. Shit y'all, we got Jesus.
• 55:06
  Sorry, that's like our one rule whenever we abduct humans, like
• 55:09
  we're not allowed to abduct Jesus.
• 55:11
  We don't want our overlord to know this happens.
• 55:14
  So we're just, we'll just put you right back where you, right.
• 55:15
  Swear to God, man, we didn't think he'd be back so soon.
• 55:18
  Swear to God. Yeah, I didn't think of that.
• 55:21
  God. Yeah, so.
• 55:24
  So he, he frees himself. He's in there with a bunch of
• 55:27
  dogs, but it's OK. They're all caged up.
• 55:29
  And he, he leaves. He was in a cave off to the side
• 55:32
  the entire time at this site. Yeah.
• 55:34
  And he just snoops the fuck out of there.
• 55:36
  Yeah. And he makes it and he collapses
• 55:39
  on the side of a road and a car pulls up and you think it's
• 55:42
  going to be a MIG, but it's. It's AVW Microbus.
• 55:45
  Yep, it's because it's two German toys.
• 55:46
  Two Germans? Yep.
• 55:47
  And they're very, very helpful. Yeah, I don't speak German, but
• 55:51
  the general just says Oh my God, what the fuck happened to this
• 55:54
  man? Let's get him to a hospital.
• 55:56
  Yeah, that's the tone. It's the least scary that I
• 55:58
  think German has ever sounded in a movie.
• 56:00
  Well, they're up next to Mick anywhere here, so it's pretty
• 56:03
  easy to do that. So we see he's getting medical
• 56:07
  attention and then we see a shot of him going to trial.
• 56:11
  Yeah, it it's like he ended up being cleared.
• 56:14
  So this is where we get those like end of movie, like text,
• 56:19
  yeah and basically saying Christy and Liz were never
• 56:21
  found. The investigation was like
• 56:23
  thrown off because it all. Sounded cops were incompetent.
• 56:27
  Yeah, they. They fucked it up.
• 56:28
  Exactly where they went cuz they were lost and they got a tow and
• 56:33
  eventually he gets cleared. He was in custody for four
• 56:35
  months beforehand but he got cleared of all charges.
• 56:37
  Yeah. And that's that.
• 56:40
  And then we just see Mick walking into the sunsets.
• 56:43
  Yep, and like I said, we've only seen the sequel one time, but it
• 56:49
  ratchets it up to like. I remember loving the sequel, I
• 56:52
  thought it was really good. We need to watch that again
• 56:54
  soon. Yeah, it just, it goes balls to
• 56:56
  the wall and then the same with the show like.
• 56:59
  Yeah, there's the third one too. I mean, they're doing good work
• 57:03
  with them. They're upset, upsetting and
• 57:06
  icky, but like they're effective as horror movies and that I
• 57:09
  think same thing I. Think 2 gets a little bit more
• 57:11
  zany, like, I mean, it's still harsh, but I think it's a little
• 57:14
  bit more like ratcheted up, like we're getting a little
• 57:17
  unrealistic with this shit now. Yeah, we go back to that mine
• 57:19
  shaft. That mine shaft is an important
• 57:21
  piece of YEAH of Part 2. It's some good olasploitation
• 57:25
  right here, really is what we got.
• 57:28
  Yeah. All right, so that's it.
• 57:30
  So you changing your rating. I'll bump it up to 7.5.
• 57:36
  OK, I'll keep mine at 9:00. What would you change?
• 57:39
  Hold on, I can't do this math. Yes, no, yes, 8.25 yeah, cuz
• 57:45
  you're yeah. I guess I'd probably like do a
• 57:51
  little bit more with the beginning cuz it it feels like,
• 57:55
  hey, we want you to enjoy these characters so we're just gonna
• 57:58
  show you them having fun and getting along.
• 58:01
  And I think that's good. But I also do feel like it kind
• 58:03
  of is a little bit too much of it.
• 58:07
  Too much of it. Yeah, OK, like it just like you
• 58:11
  said, cuz once things start happening, everything happens so
• 58:13
  fast it almost feels like two different movies.
• 58:16
  Yeah, it does. Yeah, a little bit.
• 58:18
  Yeah. OK, I get that.
• 58:20
  What would be your dream sequel? Well, I can't even remember
• 58:25
  everything that happened in the sequel, so let's figure this
• 58:27
  out. What, what, what we would like.
• 58:32
  It's really hard because I kind of want like what we got from
• 58:35
  the show where the character like that he's targeting is just
• 58:38
  keeps getting away and is able to get their own shots in.
• 58:41
  Like I want to see him get some of his.
• 58:44
  Yeah, yeah. Like have like an actual, like
• 58:48
  equal where like he's going against somebody, but this is
• 58:51
  somebody that like, OK, what if, what if somebody is going out
• 58:58
  there and they're doing like a survivalist thing?
• 59:02
  Oh. That could be fun.
• 59:03
  Like it's somebody that's like actually very prepared to handle
• 59:06
  themself. What if it's another serial
• 59:09
  killer? Oh.
• 59:10
  That'd be interesting. That could be really fun.
• 59:13
  Yeah, killer versus killer. Yes.
• 59:17
  What was that guy from the Graham?
• 59:21
  No, not Graham, the guy that Graham called a Dick head.
• 59:24
  Oh. Baz, I think, yeah.
• 59:27
  Nah, not him, Got Graham? No Graham's.
• 59:31
  Graham's too real. Yeah.
• 59:32
  Now it's just a random dude. There's just some other dude out
• 59:35
  there that's like a killer. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:37
  Yeah, just somebody that's capable, you know, like they're
• 59:39
  both out there trying to like look for opportunities and they
• 59:41
  find each other and they think they got the other one and they
• 59:44
  keep trying to string each other along.
• 59:46
  Then there you pull a stereo contos and Louise.
• 59:50
  Oh, you think they gang up? Yeah, I think that's how the
• 59:52
  movie. Ends I think that they're
• 59:54
  territorial even though it's a big place like this is where I
• 59:57
  get my kill ones. I'm not saying that like it's a
• 1:00:00
  happy team. I'm saying it's like Hobbs and
• 1:00:02
  Shaw, like where I won't kill you for now.
• 1:00:05
  OK. Speaking of what would don't try
• 1:00:10
  to do? Well, Dom would fix his car and
• 1:00:13
  get out of there. That's true.
• 1:00:14
  Dom would have never been in this situation in the 1st place
• 1:00:16
  because first of all, three weeks to drive somewhere, no.
• 1:00:20
  How many quarter miles is that? Several.
• 1:00:26
  Either way, he would know how to fix the car and he would have
• 1:00:30
  gotten out of there on his own. Yeah, and he would have
• 1:00:32
  immediately known somebody had tinkered with it.
• 1:00:34
  Yeah. There's no way.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah. Yep.
• 1:00:42
  OK, Talia. Yeah, she was dreaming hard at
• 1:00:47
  the start of this movie. Well, Talia is from the Outback.
• 1:00:50
  She is. She was found in an Outback.
• 1:00:52
  She doesn't realize that it's the steakhouse and not the
• 1:00:54
  Australian Outback, but it's OK. And she's also a Talia kangaroo
• 1:00:58
  and she did not really appreciate the whole thing of
• 1:01:00
  him murdering Kangaroos. Yeah, she's like, I could be
• 1:01:03
  mistaken for a kangaroo. I could also be a mistaken for a
• 1:01:05
  dingo. He also talked about Pitbull
• 1:01:08
  getting its head cut off. Which is sad.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah. She didn't like that.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah. It's just, I think all of this
• 1:01:12
  like it made Talia nostalgic for her homeland.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah, all of this stuff about death of like her, kind of
• 1:01:20
  people like this. Is yeah.
• 1:01:22
  She's upset, though. Like, you know, she was like,
• 1:01:25
  oh, finally a movie I can relate to.
• 1:01:27
  And this is really terrible and really scary.
• 1:01:28
  So I think Talia, because it's so terrible and scary, she would
• 1:01:32
  give it a nine. OK.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, I think it's effective for her.
• 1:01:37
  I mean, are we going to say it? Who's Zoe's ultimate warrior?
• 1:01:41
  Yeah, it's got to be Mick. Yeah, come on.
• 1:01:43
  Like Mick is The Ultimate Warrior in this movie.
• 1:01:46
  Come on. Mick has no qualms of hurting
• 1:01:48
  people to get what he wants and Zoe, despite me having stomach
• 1:01:52
  issues that she can't lay on my stomach for the past eight
• 1:01:56
  months, every single day tries to lay on my stomach and I say
• 1:02:01
  Zoe, you can't do that. And she goes no.
• 1:02:05
  Yep, and she wins. So.
• 1:02:08
  Is this a hoot or a holler for Cordelia?
• 1:02:11
  This is her first time seeing this.
• 1:02:12
  Movie and she stayed locked in the entire time.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, I think she didn't think that people were capable of
• 1:02:19
  being like that. So this was earth shattering for
• 1:02:21
  her. She lost time for innocence that
• 1:02:23
  day. And if we're making her a Wharf,
• 1:02:29
  and maybe that was like, hey, this is a hoot.
• 1:02:31
  This is crazy. I didn't realize life could be
• 1:02:33
  this bad all. Right, so it's a hoot from
• 1:02:36
  Gordy. Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Now I'm gonna ask, who did you relate to?
• 1:02:43
  Ben yeah, I'm just getting caught up in the whole year.
• 1:02:50
  I'm pretty, you know, retentive about organization.
• 1:02:53
  And I also would have that same. Oh my God, you cannot talk to
• 1:02:56
  your stranger like this. Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Moment that Liz has. Yeah.
• 1:02:59
  I don't know if I would be as cool under pressure in escaping.
• 1:03:03
  Maybe, I don't know, you've never been in this type of
• 1:03:05
  scenario. I hope you never have to be.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah, I like, I truly, I fully recognize there have been
• 1:03:09
  situations where my adrenaline has kicked in and I did not
• 1:03:13
  react the way I expected myself to react.
• 1:03:15
  So I I can't say what would happen in this exact moment.
• 1:03:19
  Well, I think this is a good time for us to ask people what
• 1:03:23
  they think. OK, so let's go on over to our
• 1:03:26
  listener reviews. We've got a couple here.
• 1:03:28
  So right off the bat, we have Michael E Howard.
• 1:03:32
  Michael says after having seen Wolf Creek multiple times, I
• 1:03:35
  have to give kudos to John Jarrett and John McQueen for
• 1:03:38
  creating such a hateful character.
• 1:03:39
  There's no redeeming qualities to make.
• 1:03:41
  That is part of what makes this Wolf Creek good.
• 1:03:44
  Much like Wrong Turn with all the whooping and hollering.
• 1:03:46
  It's hooting and hollering. Michael.
• 1:03:49
  It is sick to think of what the previous victims went through.
• 1:03:52
  I'd give this movie 7 outs in. OK, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  I mean, that's like a we were kind of talking about that.
• 1:03:58
  Yeah. About the like the previous
• 1:04:00
  victims, like that camcorder footage of that family that
• 1:04:03
  experiences like it's and then you see the the body on the wall
• 1:04:07
  of his other person that he had torturing for months.
• 1:04:11
  It's just yeah, like it's super, super fucking unnerving
• 1:04:14
  character and he is terrifying. All right, And we have one from
• 1:04:19
  Ward Zombie here who says I have not seen this in years.
• 1:04:24
  Pretty good down to earth slasher, good kills and pretty
• 1:04:27
  crazy villain. The Outback also makes for a
• 1:04:29
  great setting. I give it a six out then.
• 1:04:31
  OK, yeah, I agree with that. Now, back to isolation is a big
• 1:04:34
  part of what makes this movie work.
• 1:04:36
  And I mean, the villain, it's honestly what makes this movie
• 1:04:39
  for me entirely. Like Mick Taylor is so fucking
• 1:04:43
  crazy, over the top. He's so vile.
• 1:04:46
  I don't know, like, it's just like, and it's kind of haunting,
• 1:04:50
  man. Like, yeah, I it really is.
• 1:04:52
  It's just just so fucking good. OK, so thank you guys for those
• 1:04:56
  reviews there. Now it's time for the IMDb
• 1:04:59
  review. So I knew that we both enjoyed
• 1:05:02
  this one so I've pulled us a little bad review here.
• 1:05:05
  And this is December 6th 2005 before it had its internationals
• 1:05:12
  or it's all release. So Three out 10 seriously lacks
• 1:05:15
  originality. Despite what some may think,
• 1:05:19
  2005 has actually been a rather decent year for horror movies.
• 1:05:22
  We've had The Devil's Rejects, The Skeleton Key, Emily Rose,
• 1:05:25
  The Descent, and The Land of the Dead to name a few good
• 1:05:28
  releases, and I was hoping that Wolf Creek would be able to
• 1:05:31
  further cement the year as one of the best for horror so far
• 1:05:34
  this decade. Unfortunately, that did not turn
• 1:05:37
  out to be the case. The film adheres to the revival
• 1:05:40
  of 70s style horror that we've had recently, which is nice, but
• 1:05:44
  aside from that and a few nice core scenes, this really is a
• 1:05:47
  lacking movie. The plot is far too simple and
• 1:05:50
  takes a very long time to really get going.
• 1:05:52
  In fact, the first half hour reminded me a lot of that 1999
• 1:05:55
  movie where nothing happens at all, the Australian Outback.
• 1:05:59
  Which 1990 movie? There could be a lot of movies,
• 1:06:02
  Yeah. The Australian odd back, with
• 1:06:04
  its vast landscapes and beautiful sunsets, provides an
• 1:06:07
  ideal location for a story like this.
• 1:06:09
  Director Greg McQueen does a good job of capturing the
• 1:06:11
  surroundings, and this complements the thick Australian
• 1:06:14
  accents in general lunacy seen throughout.
• 1:06:17
  The fact that the film is based on a true story helps make it
• 1:06:20
  more shocking, but this is countered by the fact that
• 1:06:22
  everything in this movie has been seen before, recently even,
• 1:06:26
  and has been done a lot better than this.
• 1:06:28
  The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre had better and more
• 1:06:31
  repulsive scenes of gore, while Rob Zombies 2 flicks did the
• 1:06:34
  torture and lunacy in a way that is far more frightening and
• 1:06:37
  entertaining than it is here. The main gimmick that the film
• 1:06:40
  tries to build on is the one of people going missing in
• 1:06:44
  Australia and never being seen again.
• 1:06:46
  This is almost frightening as the land is so vast and easy to
• 1:06:50
  get lost in, but the way that it's handled isn't original or
• 1:06:53
  even that shocking. And this ensures that despite
• 1:06:55
  its best intentions of having something behind the immediate
• 1:06:59
  goings on, it's not frightening because it's been seen too many
• 1:07:02
  times before. This isn't an entirely bad film,
• 1:07:05
  it entertains after the opening half hour and the gore is nice,
• 1:07:08
  but it's hardly a good example of a modern horror film.
• 1:07:13
  I thought that was a really well thought out review right there.
• 1:07:15
  It is a really well thought out review.
• 1:07:16
  I, I, I'm like there are some, this is one of those movies that
• 1:07:20
  like, I appreciate more of the details when we're watching for
• 1:07:22
  the show and we're taking notes because like when it's just on,
• 1:07:27
  I find it so easy to get distracted.
• 1:07:28
  You can check out. Part Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah, you can check out pretty easily during that.
• 1:07:32
  It just, yeah, it's just one of those.
• 1:07:34
  I'm just like so, but I I. I don't like I.
• 1:07:40
  I don't think everything has to be better or worse than other
• 1:07:43
  movies. They can just be different and
• 1:07:44
  bring their own. Yeah, Rob Zombie did their own
• 1:07:48
  take on gleeful murder, but it's different.
• 1:07:52
  The difference between Rob Zombie's Sake versus this one,
• 1:07:57
  The Devil's Rejects and House of the 1000 Corpses is the
• 1:08:01
  cartoonish side of it. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  This is the more like this is a person that could potentially be
• 1:08:07
  out there. And the way that it's played is
• 1:08:08
  a little bit more grounded. Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  And I think it's a different take on that type of unhinged
• 1:08:13
  character. Like different types of people,
• 1:08:16
  they love to torture and kill people, but very different in
• 1:08:19
  how it's executed. And I don't feel very similar at
• 1:08:24
  all. Like I don't, there's not a lot
• 1:08:26
  of things that I would compare these two with other than like
• 1:08:29
  they have people that like to kill.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah, basically, I think mostly what I would compare it to,
• 1:08:34
  honestly, in a lot of ways is Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and
• 1:08:38
  even then is different. Yeah, because it's like, I mean,
• 1:08:42
  that's also kind of cartoonish. I just think it's like, I don't
• 1:08:47
  know cuz I hate when I get into a place in my head where I feel
• 1:08:50
  like I need to compare these movies.
• 1:08:51
  Like which one do I like better? Cuz I can like them in different
• 1:08:54
  ways. Yeah.
• 1:08:56
  And I don't know, I think watching movies becomes more fun
• 1:09:00
  if you let yourself just enjoy it.
• 1:09:03
  Yeah, I agree. Yeah, like I don't care if it's
• 1:09:07
  not the most original movie. Like, we're like decades, like
• 1:09:11
  over a century of doing Movies Now.
• 1:09:13
  You can only do so many things that haven't ever been done
• 1:09:17
  before. You know what?
• 1:09:17
  I mean at its core there's like 7 actual stories in the world,
• 1:09:21
  it's just how you go about telling them.
• 1:09:23
  Yeah, I thought that they did a good job with this one.
• 1:09:26
  But you know, if it's not, if it's too similar to other shit
• 1:09:29
  for you, then what I was like, that's how you that's how you
• 1:09:32
  feel and you are entitled to that.
• 1:09:35
  All right, so that's it for Wolf Creek.
• 1:09:38
  Next week we're doing our patron, our patron voted
• 1:09:41
  episode, and we're covering Silver Bullet.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah, we. Have just fallen in love with
• 1:09:46
  this movie since we since we were invited to watch it with
• 1:09:50
  one of our friends and we did a battle of the busey as our votes
• 1:09:54
  for this month and silver bullet one.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah. So we're getting some Gary Busey
• 1:09:58
  next week. You can stream it on YouTube TV
• 1:10:01
  or rent it from YouTube, Google TV Prime, Apple TV, or Fandango
• 1:10:04
  at home. It's fun time, you know, if you
• 1:10:06
  haven't seen. It if you haven't watched it,
• 1:10:08
  watch it werewolf movie go in with an open mind and an open
• 1:10:11
  heart yeah and. Look, I am not a person.
• 1:10:15
  Actually, I think I'm gonna change my stance on this.
• 1:10:17
  I was a person at one point that did not really think that I
• 1:10:20
  cared for werewolf movies. But I am learning that I think I
• 1:10:23
  might actually like werewolf movies.
• 1:10:25
  Honestly the same I it's just finding the good werewolf
• 1:10:30
  movies. Yeah, which we've done a pretty
• 1:10:32
  good job of doing so far. And this one's a good one.
• 1:10:35
  Yeah. So give it a shot.
• 1:10:36
  I guess that's that. We want to go ahead and think
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• 1:11:09
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• 1:11:10
  appreciate it. Thanks for being around here
• 1:11:12
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• 1:11:35
  up for Wolf Creek. So until next time, bye.
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  Bye. Not.
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  I had screenshotted but I didn't.