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Full Show Podcast: 24 September 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Francesca Ruggin on
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Speaker 1: earlier is show with one roof Love where You Live
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Speaker 1: News Talk said.
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Speaker 2: Be good morning, Welcome to early edition. I'm Francisca Budkin
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Speaker 2: filling in for d Ryan who was on Drive this week.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday. Great to have you with us. You're
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Speaker 2: most welcome to contact me anytime this morning. You can
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Speaker 2: flicker text on ninety two ninety two where you can
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Speaker 2: email me at Francesca at newstalksb dot co dot NZ.
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Speaker 2: On the show today, Retail New Zealand and business chambers
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Speaker 2: want the credit cards. Surcharges decision reversed, we find out why,
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Speaker 2: we look at the new mood of the boardroom survey
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Speaker 2: out today, and before the end of the hour, we
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Speaker 2: find out what HOSPO thinks of the Holidays Act Overhaul.
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Speaker 3: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September. Trump's been giving
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Speaker 2: a speech to the UN General Assembly firing shops at Europe.
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Speaker 4: Sine period of your seven months, I have ended seven wars.
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Speaker 4: They said they were unendable and sadly in all cases
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Speaker 4: the United Nations did not even try to help in
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Speaker 4: any of them. I ended seven.
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Speaker 5: Wars, dealt with the leaders of each and every one
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Speaker 5: of these countries, and never even received a phone call
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Speaker 5: from the United Nations offering to help in finalizing the deal.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, France has formally recognized a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 6: We must do everything within our power to preserve the
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Speaker 6: very possibility of a two state solution, Israel and Palestine
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Speaker 6: living side by side in peace and security.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has given her first interview since losing to Trump.
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Speaker 2: She's partially blamed herself for the election defeat.
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Speaker 7: When I talk about the recklessness as much as anything,
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Speaker 7: I'm talking about myself. There was so much as weena
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Speaker 7: at stake, and as I write, you know where my
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Speaker 7: head was at at the time is that it would
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Speaker 7: be completely it would come off as being completely self serving.
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Speaker 2: If you said to President Biden if you did not
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Speaker 2: think you should run again.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, or even though he should question whether it's a
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Speaker 7: good idea.
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Speaker 2: And finally, Jimmy Kimmel is getting his show back on
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Speaker 2: air after a short suspension. Disney pulled him for jokes
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Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk's death.
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Speaker 8: They say that the comments last week were ill timed.
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Speaker 8: They were insensitive, but they've had these conversations with Jimmy
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Speaker 8: Kimmel and the show will return on Tuesday. This may
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Speaker 8: be the end of this particular episode, but it does
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Speaker 8: not bring an end to this really febrile debate in
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Speaker 8: the United States over free speech.
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Speaker 2: And that's the agenda on.
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Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Francesca
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Speaker 1: Rutkin and One roof Love where you Live News Talks'd be.
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Speaker 2: Well, it really is construction week. So we've done the hospitals,
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Speaker 2: we've done schools yesterday, and we moved on to housing
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Speaker 2: for our defense force. MP Chris Penk released a press
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Speaker 2: release just reminding us that the largest defense housing project
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Speaker 2: in decades is officially underway. The government intends to invest
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Speaker 2: up to six hundred million in decent homes for our
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Speaker 2: military personnel. Look, much of this work has started, much
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Speaker 2: of it has already been announced, So this was purely
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Speaker 2: a marketing exercise to remind us how much the government
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Speaker 2: is investing in construction and creating jobs in his projects
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Speaker 2: in the pipeline. If you take a look at the
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald Mood for the Boardroom survey out today,
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Speaker 2: you can see why the government is doing their best
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Speaker 2: to inject some positivity. CEOs have ranked the performance of
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Speaker 2: cabinet ministers and others outside the cabinet. You get a
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Speaker 2: ranking out of five. One is not impressive, five is
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Speaker 2: very impressive. Chris Pink got a three point one point
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Speaker 2: eight for building and construction. It's not too bad, So
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Speaker 2: he came in at tenth. It'll be absolutely no surprise
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Speaker 2: who is at the top of the list. Erica Stanford,
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Speaker 2: of course is in the number one spot. She got
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Speaker 2: four point three eight. This is the top ten. She
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Speaker 2: was then followed by Winston Peters, Foreign Affairs, Chris Bishop, Infrastructure,
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Speaker 2: Todd McLay, Trade, Mark Mitchell, Police, Simeon Brown, Health, Judih Collins, Defense,
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Speaker 2: Brook van Dervelden workplace Relations, Shane Jones regional Development, and
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Speaker 2: number ten Chris Pink. Now you will notice something else
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Speaker 2: about that list, and that is there is no prime
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Speaker 2: minister or finance minister. Nichola Willis came in at thirteenth
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Speaker 2: and Christopher Luxon came in at fifteenth, and I don't
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Speaker 2: think either of them will be happy about that. Francisco,
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Speaker 2: So what do you think of those rankings? I think
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Speaker 2: the top ten sounds about right. These are all ministers
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Speaker 2: who are getting things done, or at least seem to
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Speaker 2: be getting things done. This is not a good result
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Speaker 2: for the prime minister. He was at sixth last year.
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Speaker 2: CEOs are pretty happy with his performance on the world stage.
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Speaker 2: They think he's doing good things for New Zealand overseas
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Speaker 2: and that aspect. They also like the fact that he
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Speaker 2: keeps cabinet colleagues focused on delivery, but when it comes
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Speaker 2: to other domestic issues they're not so strong in him.
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Speaker 2: He got a two point sixty three ranking for leads
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Speaker 2: and developed delivers on transformative change and a two point
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Speaker 2: seventy six for political performance as Prime Minister. So keen
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Speaker 2: to hear from you what you think about that. I
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Speaker 2: think moment it kind of does some things up quite nicely.
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Speaker 2: Shortly we are going to take a closer look at
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Speaker 2: what our business leaders want to see from the government.
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Speaker 2: But up next we're going to talk the surcharge man.
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Speaker 2: It is top Us five you with news Talks at.
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Speaker 1: B Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love
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Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks.
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Speaker 2: That'd be fourteen past five New Zealand's top business leaders
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Speaker 2: are pushing back on changes to credit cards, surcharges, retail
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Speaker 2: New Zealand and business chambers across the country have penned
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Speaker 2: an open letter to Commerce Minister Scott Simpson. They're urging
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Speaker 2: him to reverse plans that would ban businesses from passing
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Speaker 2: on credit card fees. They say it will lead to
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Speaker 2: unintended consequences for business owners. Leah mccairo, the CEO of
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Speaker 2: North Chamber and one of the signatories, joins me, Now,
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Speaker 2: good morningly, thanks for your time, Cat Madier. What have
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Speaker 2: businesses said to you about the band? How dire are
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Speaker 2: the consequences that we're looking at here?
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Speaker 9: Well, look, the band comes into effect next May. So
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Speaker 9: while I haven't heard necessarily a lot specifically from the businesses,
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Speaker 9: but we do know that any cost that's occurred by
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Speaker 9: them is going to actually affect them quite greatly to
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Speaker 9: far at the moment, So there is concern that these
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Speaker 9: mountain costs are going to have quite an impact on them.
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Speaker 2: Is the issue that small rural businesses are going to
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Speaker 2: be subsidizing us big city payWave addicted consumers.
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, you're right, It does depend on this
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Speaker 9: the way that people pay, and obviously it's the credit
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Speaker 9: cards that are incurring the costs. We've got to remember
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Speaker 9: that the credit card companies and the banks are the
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Speaker 9: ones that actually set these fees. And there is already
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Speaker 9: a regulation in place that that businesses can't charge more
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Speaker 9: than they are being charged. But yes, it is going
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Speaker 9: to be those smaller, those companies that take the money.
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Speaker 9: They're not going to incur the cost in the first place,
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Speaker 9: so it won't matter too much to them.
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Speaker 2: Okay, was this an unintended consequence? Do you think? Do
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Speaker 2: you think that the minister knew that this would kind
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Speaker 2: of happen as a result of the law change.
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Speaker 9: Look, I think so. I mean she has suggested that
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Speaker 9: that businesses treat it to treat that like any other
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Speaker 9: price increase, in that they just put it on top
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Speaker 9: of the costs. But that means that every consumer is
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Speaker 9: going to be impacted by that, not just so as
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Speaker 9: deciding to use pay label credit cards, and that seems
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Speaker 9: a little unfair for every consumer.
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Speaker 2: Before the ban, small businesses were charging increasing, charging more
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Speaker 2: and more for payWave. What's going to stop them from
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Speaker 2: doing that again? If the charges are scraped.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think That's what we're audjesting is rather than
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Speaker 9: scrapping them or or making it that small business is
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Speaker 9: not able to on charge it, that they put in
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Speaker 9: a restriction around that. There is already, as I said,
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Speaker 9: a requirement to actually charge no more than that being charged.
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Speaker 9: But surely we can do that and then have some
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Speaker 9: sort of consumer line that actually identifies those businesses that
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Speaker 9: may well be trying to buck the system and make
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Speaker 9: money out of it. That's not the point. The point
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Speaker 9: is that these small businesses are the ones that are
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Speaker 9: now going to be incurring these costs. What are they
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Speaker 9: to do?
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Speaker 2: Leah, On a completely different note, I believe the Northland
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Speaker 2: Monopoly game has just arrived and Dargaville is upset they
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Speaker 2: got the brown spaces.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think that there was some concern. That was
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Speaker 9: the first question I got, asked, who's the brown spaces?
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Speaker 9: And I think we need to think about where could
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Speaker 9: I actually purchase a property when I'm just entering on
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Speaker 9: the ladder, and I reckon Dargaville is just the place
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Speaker 9: for people.
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Speaker 2: Who got the gorgeous who's got the blue properties?
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Speaker 9: Oh? Look, do you know? At a top of mind,
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Speaker 9: I cannot recall, but it is absolutely beautiful and it's
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Speaker 9: Lands and Punaray this morning. So we're going down to
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Speaker 9: open the container and it's pretty special.
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Speaker 2: Actually, oh brilliant, brilliant. Enjoy that. Thank you so much, Lea.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate that that was thea Macaro there for the CEO
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Speaker 2: of mid Chamber and one of those signatories. Okay, up next,
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the mood of the boardroom.
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Speaker 2: It is seventeen past five.
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Francesca Rudkin and One Room Love
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Speaker 1: where you live News Talks at me.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty past five, right, we've got the Herald's mood
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Speaker 2: of the boardroom and in a word, it's grim. Our
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Speaker 2: business leaders are calling for more bipartisanship when it comes
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Speaker 2: to tax, retirement and the long term outlook for New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: A big talking point was Trump's tariffs, with CEO's confidence
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Speaker 2: plummeting in light of the presidents of Vergeon to free trade.
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Speaker 2: Roger Patridge is the co founder and chair of the
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Initiative and he joins me now, good morning Roger,
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Speaker 2: thanks for your time.
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Speaker 3: Good morning Francesca.
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Speaker 2: So you could describe the mood of the boardroom in
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Speaker 2: one word, what would it be?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think grim is quite a good word. Troubled.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's aware the economies struggling, cost of livings high, and
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Speaker 3: the business communities looking for a clear direction from the
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Speaker 3: government and not feeling that they're quite delivering.
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Speaker 2: There's pretty much unanimous agreement that the economy isn't taking
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Speaker 2: off in the ways that we will promised. What are
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Speaker 2: those key issues holding us back?
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Speaker 3: Well, one of the big issues is the extent of
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Speaker 3: government spending. That's meant that it's taken longer for interest
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Speaker 3: rates to come down, and with interest rates high, productive
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Speaker 3: activity has not rebounded them the way you'd hope after
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Speaker 3: a recession. I think the government under estimated the extent
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Speaker 3: of the problem they inherited from the last government and
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Speaker 3: underestimated how much pain it was going to take and
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Speaker 3: cause to firms, workers and consumers. Probably should have managed
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Speaker 3: expectations better on how long it was going to take
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Speaker 3: to turn things around.
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Speaker 2: You've called for bipartisanship on our economic future. What's stopping
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Speaker 2: this progress? Is it the fringe parties?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 3: I think news it's worth We're always tempted to think
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Speaker 3: about what divides us politically, but it's worth thinking a
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Speaker 3: bit about how much we agree on and trying to
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Speaker 3: broaden the scope when you step back and think about
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Speaker 3: the issues that aren't subject to political flip flops every
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Speaker 3: time there's an election. Who we've got by partisanship on
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Speaker 3: free trade, on an independent foreign policy. We've had by
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Speaker 3: partisanship and probably still do. On the need for a
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Speaker 3: broad based tax system with a clean GST. We don't
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Speaker 3: have a successive governments tinkling this talk of it every now,
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Speaker 3: and they're not tinkering with our GSD, but it's the
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Speaker 3: envy of the world. It's a very efficient tax. We've
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Speaker 3: had cross party support for more than three decades on
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Speaker 3: treaty settlements and cross party support on climate change. So
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Speaker 3: there's a lot that unites us, and I think that's
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Speaker 3: a strength of our political system. One of the challenges
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Speaker 3: is to broaden that out. We've had bipartisan support for
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Speaker 3: a prudent fiscal policy and low levels of debt, keeping
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Speaker 3: debt at around twenty percent of GST at our GDP,
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Speaker 3: and that lasted until the pandemic, and then the training
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Speaker 3: wheels came off. The spending constraints came off with both parties.
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Speaker 3: So I think we should think about the important areas
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Speaker 3: where we can agree politically on issues like retirement savings, infrastructure, pipeline.
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Speaker 3: There are a whole host of policy areas just crying
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Speaker 3: out for certainty.
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Speaker 2: A lot of feedback about Trump's tariffs and the impact
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Speaker 2: that's had on confidence. Trump did what he said he
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Speaker 2: was going to do. Should we have been more prepared
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Speaker 2: for the reality of these tariffs?
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Speaker 3: I think people were misled globally about what Trump term
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Speaker 3: two was going to look like. Trump said an awful
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Speaker 3: lot of things before term one, which he didn't do,
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Speaker 3: and I think people thought he might have been messing
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Speaker 3: with America and the world more than he actually was.
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Speaker 3: All Right, so we weren't alone in not taking what
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Speaker 3: he said at face value.
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Speaker 2: There we go and really quickly, Roger, do you think
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister will be happy with his ranking?
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Speaker 3: He won't be happy. No, it's for him. It's definitely
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Speaker 3: work in progress.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Really appreciate your time this morning.
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Speaker 2: That was Roger Partridge. It is twenty four past.
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Speaker 2: Righty home. I didn't really want to touch on this yesterday.
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Speaker 2: I really hope the story about President Trump coming out
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Speaker 2: and declaring that pregnant mothers taking paracetamol was the cause
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Speaker 2: of autism would just die quick death in the news,
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Speaker 2: but it made an impact. As you may have seen,
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Speaker 2: comments like Trump's are hugely frustrating and unhelpful. They cause
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Speaker 2: concern among expectant mothers about the use of paracetamol, and,
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Speaker 2: as stated by the New Zealand College of Midwives yesterday,
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Speaker 2: high quality scientific evidence does not demonstrate a causal link
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Speaker 2: or association between paracetamol use and autism or other development concerns.
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Speaker 2: Large high quality studies, including population data from Sweden involving
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Speaker 2: over two million children, found no increased risk of autism,
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Speaker 2: ADHD or intellectual disability from paracetamol use during pregnancy. You
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Speaker 2: could also ask mothers of autistic children, the ones I
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Speaker 2: know are scratching their heads because they didn't use paracetamol
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Speaker 2: when pregnant. Please, if you're a pregnant mum out there,
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Speaker 2: follow their vus of your doctor, not a politician. Reputable
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Speaker 2: clinicians and researchers have been working for DEAs kids to
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Speaker 2: understand this complex neurodevelopmental syndrome, and the widely held view
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Speaker 2: of researches is that there is no single cause. Rather,
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Speaker 2: it is thought to be the result of a complex
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Speaker 2: mix of mostly genetic and to a lesser extent, environmental factors.
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Speaker 2: When you have autism in the family, you don't think
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Speaker 2: about cure or cause. You're focused on helping that person
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Speaker 2: live their best life, and they can live a great life.
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Speaker 2: The rise in reported autism cases is not a horrible
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Speaker 2: crisis as Trump has described it. There is a simple
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Speaker 2: reason why the number of cases has increased, and it's
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Speaker 2: not because of vaccines, but rather the result of changes
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Speaker 2: in the way autism is defined and assessed. In the
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, autism was tightly defined and considered extremely rare.
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Speaker 2: Then Asperger's syndrome, which is much milder in severity than
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Speaker 2: classic autism and much more common, was added as a diagnosis,
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Speaker 2: and then in twenty thirteen, Asperger syndrome was eliminated as
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Speaker 2: a standalone diagnosis and folded into the newly introduced concept
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Speaker 2: of autism spectrum disorder. Hence, an increase in diagnosis is
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Speaker 2: under that one umbrella. That and more general awareness of
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Speaker 2: ASD has led to more people getting themselves all their
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Speaker 2: children assessed. And yes, the difficulty of diagnosing autism can
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Speaker 2: lead to misdiagnosis as well, But implying autism is something
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Speaker 2: to fear, something that needs to be raised, is offensive. Yes,
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Speaker 2: there are high support need cases which are hugely challenging
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Speaker 2: for families, and yes, living with the disability in a
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Speaker 2: world that isn't designed for you is difficult. But with support,
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Speaker 2: autistic people live productive, interesting and rich lives and quite frankly,
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Speaker 2: the world would be much less without them.
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Speaker 1: Franchise good.
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Speaker 2: So I've had Massay, I've got that off my chest
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Speaker 2: and it makes me feel a little bit better. There
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Speaker 2: we go. Hey, just going back to the mood of
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Speaker 2: the boardroom that we were talking about. I thought what
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Speaker 2: was really interesting here was the impact of terrorists, tariffs
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Speaker 2: and geopolitical issues on businesses. It's very, very much at
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Speaker 2: the front of mind. Maybe Nikola willis who I thought,
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Speaker 2: you know, she was trying to keep things in perspective
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Speaker 2: when she said, look, it's not great news. It's a
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Speaker 2: bit disappointing, but it represents only a fraction of New
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Speaker 2: Zealand's overall trade. Maybe we were a bit caught out
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Speaker 2: around this, Maybe that approach should have been a little
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Speaker 2: bit Maybe we should have just been a little bit
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Speaker 2: more proactive and on that. Anyway, keen to get your thoughts,
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Speaker 2: you mightst to Welcome to Text ninety two ninety.
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Speaker 1: Two the first Word on the News of the Day,
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Speaker 1: earlier edition with Francesca Rudgin and one roof love where
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Speaker 1: you live. News Talks, that'd be.
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Speaker 8: I want to.
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Speaker 10: Everybody wants one.
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Speaker 2: This is early edition on news Talks. There'd be I'm
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Speaker 2: Francisco Rudkin filling in for Ryan who is on drive today.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us. In the next half hours,
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Speaker 2: so we're going to head to Europe. You've probably heard
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Speaker 2: about those drones that stopped flights at Copenhagen and Oslo
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Speaker 2: airports about twenty four hours ago. Twenty thousand passengers were
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Speaker 2: affected in Copenhagen alone, while it has now thought that
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Speaker 2: the Russians are involved. So Gavin Gray with the latest
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Speaker 2: on this and the Holidays Act was overhauled.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: The overhaul announcement was made yesterday and it looks like
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Speaker 2: a pretty balanced approach. Good to see a simpler plan
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Speaker 2: and action. Shame it takes so long to reprogram software
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Speaker 2: to make it happen though, right, no fast tracking here,
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Speaker 2: but before the end of the hour, we're going to
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Speaker 2: find out how these changes, presuming the legislation has passed,
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Speaker 2: will affect the hospo industry. Hey, thank you very much
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Speaker 2: for your feedback, Francesca. Christopher Luxen is having to use
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Speaker 2: tough love, which hurts but is necessary to get back
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Speaker 2: on track. The problem lays directly at the feet of
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Speaker 2: the Labor government, leaving the cupboard completely bare. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about the mood of the boardroom and how the CEOs
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Speaker 2: are feeling about the government's performance. Another text here, I've
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Speaker 2: been a National supporter all my life. Ome Minister Christopher
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Speaker 2: Luxon is in my opinion, the worst National prime minister
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Speaker 2: of all times, so you might not be surprised he came.
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Speaker 2: He ranked fifteenth and Frantisca, that survey means nothing. Luxen
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Speaker 2: is the strong glue holding a three party coalition together
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Speaker 2: and allowing his ministers to concentrate on their portfolios. Fifteen
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Speaker 2: is better than having Hipkins and co wrecking our country
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Speaker 2: for a second time. So thanks so much for the feedback.
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Speaker 2: You can keep that coming. You can text on ninety
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Speaker 2: two to ninety two. It is twenty one two six.
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Speaker 1: Francisco and we are going to.
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Speaker 2: Head around the country now and joining me from Dunedin
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Speaker 2: as Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum morning.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 2: PACIFICA workers in Oamaru are future proofing their careers.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is right. This is of course set against
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Speaker 10: the backdrop of economic uncertainty impacting primary industries and so
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Speaker 10: a training initiative has been launched, an amoro called Project Fairtoo,
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Speaker 10: aimed at PACIFICA factory workers. It's a free the nz
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Speaker 10: QA accredited course and it's designed to upskill these workers
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Speaker 10: in numerousy and literacy to help them secure employment if
20:08
Speaker 10: local jobs are cut. Omaru has one of the country's
20:11
Speaker 10: fastest growing Pacific populations by demographic and its workers live
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Speaker 10: more than an hour away from any type of formal education.
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Speaker 10: Our Pacific Workforce Development Manager Fred Leutua says the upskilling
20:21
Speaker 10: of the Pacific workforce is vital for New Zealand's economy
20:25
Speaker 10: and it's hoped that this pilot will inspire similar models
20:27
Speaker 10: across New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather today, Callum.
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Speaker 10: Morning, cloud clears to a fine day today.
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Speaker 11: The high seventeen.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Claire Sherwood is in christ Church.
20:37
Speaker 2: Good morning, Claire, good morning. Okay, so there's some concern
20:41
Speaker 2: that christ Church Hospital might not be able to cope
20:43
Speaker 2: if there was a mass casualty event.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is really concerning, Francesca. We've had doctors saying
20:49
Speaker 12: that patients are dying. Hospital staff are also seriously affected
20:53
Speaker 12: by some daily code reds that are happening, particularly in
20:56
Speaker 12: the ED department of Christchurch Hospital, but also hospital wide.
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Speaker 12: We know that patients have been in a case of
21:03
Speaker 12: standing room only in the ED department in recent days.
21:06
Speaker 12: Some patients are being treated in corridors. Some are waiting
21:09
Speaker 12: more than twenty four hours to even be seen when
21:12
Speaker 12: the target is six. Now, Senior doctor Dominant flee Share
21:16
Speaker 12: is one of the ones who's lifting the lid on
21:17
Speaker 12: the situation there. He says that he personally worked through
21:20
Speaker 12: the christ earthquakes and the Mosk attacks and he knows
21:24
Speaker 12: that they wouldn't be able to cope with an event
21:26
Speaker 12: like that now with the way things are. He says,
21:29
Speaker 12: the ED during those times did have spere beds, but
21:32
Speaker 12: now they're not just at one hundred percent, but they're
21:34
Speaker 12: beyond that, so undoubtedly the hospital would not be able
21:38
Speaker 12: to perform to those levels.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is concerning Claire. How's your weather today?
21:42
Speaker 12: Some low cloud and fog possible to start, but then
21:45
Speaker 12: should clear to find northwesterlies and a hive nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Claire, Max Toller's and Wellington for us.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, Max, Good morning.
21:52
Speaker 2: So the outgoing mayor has changed her ambitions, got some
21:55
Speaker 2: new plans.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, curious interview by our newsroom with Tory Farno in
21:59
Speaker 11: The Herald this morning. It's been a tumultuous term for her,
22:02
Speaker 11: to say the least, and while she has previously said
22:05
Speaker 11: she does want a crack at the mayalty in twenty
22:07
Speaker 11: twenty eight or further out, she now says she doesn't
22:11
Speaker 11: and instead simply Harbor's ambition to enter Parliament with the
22:14
Speaker 11: Green Party in twenty twenty nine. All the way through
22:18
Speaker 11: her twenty twenty two campaign when she ran for mayor,
22:20
Speaker 11: there was a lot of talk that she was only
22:22
Speaker 11: seeking local leadership to boost her profile to indeed one
22:25
Speaker 11: day make the Greens list. Civil Defense, mardi development, foreign affairs.
22:29
Speaker 11: These are all portfolios she's told us she's eyeing up
22:32
Speaker 11: in the past. In the meantime, she has of course
22:35
Speaker 11: quit the Wellington Marylty. She's running for council in a
22:38
Speaker 11: Mardi ward. She's also revealed she's joined an organization that
22:41
Speaker 11: runs public speaking events, conferences, leadership etc. So you can
22:45
Speaker 11: pay to hear her speak. I'm not quite sure what
22:48
Speaker 11: the topic would be though, beyond lessons learned, I'm this.
22:52
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say a word. Thank you, Mex.
22:54
Speaker 2: Is the weather looking better today?
22:56
Speaker 11: Indeed, party cloudy nor Westerly's fifteen the high.
22:58
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Mex. Neither Britty money was in
23:01
Speaker 2: the Auckland studio. Good morning, good morning. The new world
23:04
Speaker 2: Victoria Park which was once our little local supermarket here, yes, me,
23:09
Speaker 2: it is now completely bare after going up and flows.
23:12
Speaker 13: Yeah that's right now. This is despite previous claims that
23:15
Speaker 13: the building wouldn't undergo a complete demolition, but food Stuff's
23:19
Speaker 13: North Dining claimed a complete demolition of the storm was
23:22
Speaker 13: not on the cards.
23:23
Speaker 2: In July.
23:23
Speaker 13: However, significant changes now being made to the site, and
23:27
Speaker 13: so food Stuff says that the damaged roof and the
23:29
Speaker 13: walls have been removed. It's all bere now. The remaining
23:33
Speaker 13: concrete slab in car parks going to undergo an engineering assessment.
23:37
Speaker 13: It also says that the company will be able to
23:39
Speaker 13: be in a better position to make decisions, you know,
23:42
Speaker 13: about the future of the building after all of this
23:44
Speaker 13: complete demolition, including preparing plans for the new supermarket whenever
23:48
Speaker 13: that's going to open.
23:49
Speaker 2: Okay, so that are going to rebuild on the site. Yes, okay. Interesting.
23:52
Speaker 13: That's weather today, rain turn into showers around midday, heavy
23:55
Speaker 13: at times, possible understorms and downpours. Nineteen is the high warm,
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Speaker 13: warm and wheat warm.
24:01
Speaker 2: But wheat perfect for the school holidays. Once again, thank
24:04
Speaker 2: you so much. Neva appreciated Nick's brock. The UK and Europe.
24:07
Speaker 2: Gavin Gray is with us. It is seventeen to.
24:09
Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of
24:14
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
24:18
Speaker 2: Then we hit to Europe. In the UK now Gavin
24:20
Speaker 2: Gray is with me. Good morning, Devin.
24:22
Speaker 14: Him the Francesca.
24:23
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's good to see the UK Health Scretary
24:28
Speaker 2: is suggesting that we ignore Trump's health advice when it
24:30
Speaker 2: comes to autism.
24:33
Speaker 14: Yes, very much so. So this, of course after Donald
24:36
Speaker 14: Trump's comments that the pain relief of tailanol, which of
24:39
Speaker 14: course is known in New Zealand and the UK's paracetamol
24:42
Speaker 14: is no good, he said, for pregnant women to use,
24:45
Speaker 14: citing a disputed link between the drug and autism. Now
24:48
Speaker 14: we're Streeting, he's the health secretary here in the UK,
24:51
Speaker 14: he said, I trust doctors over President Trump. Don't pay
24:55
Speaker 14: any attention whatsoever to the US president's unfounded claims, he said,
25:00
Speaker 14: And he's gone on as well with a number of
25:03
Speaker 14: other people too. Look at the various studies that have
25:06
Speaker 14: gone on about this particular claim of a link and
25:10
Speaker 14: said where Streeting said, I've just got to be really
25:13
Speaker 14: clear about this. There is no evidence to link the
25:16
Speaker 14: use of parasitam or by pregnant women to autism in
25:18
Speaker 14: their children.
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Speaker 1: None.
25:20
Speaker 14: And he then quoted a major Swedish study last year
25:23
Speaker 14: involving two point four million children which found absolutely no
25:27
Speaker 14: link between the drug and autism. So where did Donald
25:30
Speaker 14: Trump's claims come from? Well, it's another study, this time
25:34
Speaker 14: at Harvard University's Cham School of Public Health. And there
25:37
Speaker 14: was a one in Japan, again but not conclusive, and
25:40
Speaker 14: therefore the advice is ignored. Donald Trump, who of course
25:44
Speaker 14: also promoted unsubstantiated medical claims during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
25:49
Speaker 2: Now, tell me what is going on about these drones,
25:52
Speaker 2: the drones that stopped the flights at Copenhagen and Oslo airports.
25:56
Speaker 2: Is it the word yes, the Russians.
25:58
Speaker 14: Well that's what we're waiting to hear, Francesca. Now, if
26:01
Speaker 14: you're thinking, we will hang on a minute. If it's
26:03
Speaker 14: drones near an airport, why didn't they shoot them down?
26:06
Speaker 14: Were The answer is that around Copenhagen, the Castrop Airport
26:10
Speaker 14: in Copenhagen, Denmark, it's very densely populated. So they really
26:14
Speaker 14: did think that these are quite large drones, not the
26:17
Speaker 14: little ones that you buy down the shops for personal use,
26:20
Speaker 14: that it just couldn't shoot them down. And the Prime
26:22
Speaker 14: Minister of Denmark, Meta fredericks And said, this is the
26:25
Speaker 14: most severe attack on Danish infrastructure so far. So what
26:29
Speaker 14: happened is that the airspace was shut for several hours
26:32
Speaker 14: from about eight thirty local time in the evening, and
26:37
Speaker 14: it followed the sighting of a number of drones. The
26:40
Speaker 14: Danish Prime minister made a link between last night's events
26:43
Speaker 14: in Denmark and also the recent Russian drone incursions in
26:47
Speaker 14: Poland and Romania, as well as the violation of Estonian
26:51
Speaker 14: airspace by Russian fighter jets. Now, to be clear, there
26:55
Speaker 14: is absolutely no undisputed link to Russia and what's been
27:01
Speaker 14: going on, but plenty of people think this is again
27:03
Speaker 14: Vladimir Putin test in the water, seeing how far he
27:06
Speaker 14: can push things before NATO reacts. Well already now we're
27:11
Speaker 14: getting Poland and the Czech Republic saying, you know what,
27:14
Speaker 14: if something flies over our space, I'm shooting it down
27:17
Speaker 14: and I don't care if it's Russian or not.
27:19
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the update, Gevin. Appreciate that
27:22
Speaker 2: it is eleven to six Francisco. As expected. The government's
27:27
Speaker 2: overhauling the Holidays Act Sickly will now be pro riuter
27:31
Speaker 2: matching hours worked instead of a flat ten days, and
27:34
Speaker 2: your leave will also occur based on ours, giving workers
27:37
Speaker 2: more flexibility. Marissa Badoir, the Restaurant Association chief executive, is
27:41
Speaker 2: with me now. Good morning, Maroissa, thanks.
27:43
Speaker 15: For your time, Good morning, Thanks for having me.
27:46
Speaker 2: Is this a long time coming for you?
27:49
Speaker 15: Absolutely, it has been a very long time coming. The
27:53
Speaker 15: work's gone on over the last year, but it's been
27:55
Speaker 15: twenty years really since issues with the old system started. Happening,
28:00
Speaker 15: So we're very pleased to see this reform coming through.
28:03
Speaker 2: So how does this provide clarity for businesses?
28:07
Speaker 15: Well, look, in particular for hospitality businesses, a lot of
28:11
Speaker 15: our businesses don't work on a forty hour week at all.
28:13
Speaker 15: We're employing casual employees, we're employing part timers. The new
28:20
Speaker 15: system really takes into account those more different and modern
28:24
Speaker 15: ways of working as well. So it's really getting an
28:27
Speaker 15: overhaul and being adapted to be more user friendly in
28:31
Speaker 15: the modern world, I think is the best way to
28:33
Speaker 15: describe it.
28:34
Speaker 2: Will it change the way businesses interact with their employees?
28:38
Speaker 15: Look, I think as far as that interaction with employees,
28:42
Speaker 15: it's going to simplify things for both employers and employees.
28:45
Speaker 15: And I think anything in this space when it comes
28:48
Speaker 15: to pay, if it's easier to understand, it's going to
28:52
Speaker 15: be better for everybody.
28:55
Speaker 2: In hospo. Do you have a lot of part timers
28:57
Speaker 2: or do you have a lot of casual workers?
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Speaker 11: Yes, we do.
29:01
Speaker 15: We do have a lot of part time workers and
29:05
Speaker 15: casual workers across different parts of the sector. Also seasonal,
29:09
Speaker 15: you know, we have people coming in to help out
29:11
Speaker 15: with a busy season. For example, you know, so this
29:15
Speaker 15: is this type of approach will make it much easier
29:18
Speaker 15: for employers. The old system based a lot of its
29:24
Speaker 15: calculations on either weekly for annual leave or daily for
29:29
Speaker 15: sick leave. This really simplifies it by making both of
29:32
Speaker 15: those areas provided sort of over an hourly basis, So
29:38
Speaker 15: it really does simplify it.
29:40
Speaker 2: The unions have sort of taken a look at this one.
29:42
Speaker 2: We've all taken a look at and goneque. It's quite
29:43
Speaker 2: good for casual workers, but it's a little bit of
29:46
Speaker 2: a potentially could be a step back for part time
29:48
Speaker 2: as if you take a look at sick pay that
29:51
Speaker 2: they will potentially see a reduction of leave entitlement. Is
29:55
Speaker 2: that a concern for you?
29:57
Speaker 15: Look, I think it sort of balances out, to be honest,
30:00
Speaker 15: I think it sort of matches the hours that you work.
30:03
Speaker 15: If you are a full time employee, you are going
30:06
Speaker 15: to be seeing more sickly entitlements. If you are a
30:10
Speaker 15: part time you know, employee, then yes it is reduced,
30:13
Speaker 15: but I think it balances out as far as you're
30:17
Speaker 15: the hours that you're actually working.
30:19
Speaker 2: Was there anything else that you looked at with this
30:22
Speaker 2: overhaul and you thought, right, that is going to be,
30:25
Speaker 2: you know, great for the hospitality industry specifically.
30:29
Speaker 15: Look, I think it really is around that change from
30:34
Speaker 15: weekly and daily to hourly. I know so many employers
30:39
Speaker 15: who agonize over essentially making sure that they're getting these
30:45
Speaker 15: payments correct when it comes to sick pay or holiday pay.
30:49
Speaker 15: And I mean, if we're looking at large corporate organizations
30:52
Speaker 15: and even some government departments, we're making mistakes on this.
30:56
Speaker 15: You can imagine what a nightmare it has been for
30:59
Speaker 15: a small business.
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Speaker 2: So I worked in hospital when I was at university
31:03
Speaker 2: and things, Marissa, and I don't think I ever got
31:05
Speaker 2: the right holiday pay or sick paid what you know,
31:07
Speaker 2: what I was expecting, never quite any right, you know,
31:11
Speaker 2: So it's always kind of been like that was quite
31:13
Speaker 2: a long time ago. I suppose the other thing you
31:16
Speaker 2: locate here too, is obviously they're hoping to get this
31:18
Speaker 2: legislation through the House before the end of the year,
31:20
Speaker 2: or at least before the end of this term. Then
31:22
Speaker 2: it's another couple of years. You know, we've got to
31:24
Speaker 2: change all the software. It's still a bit of a
31:27
Speaker 2: long hauling head. It's a shame we can't fast traate
31:30
Speaker 2: this exactly.
31:31
Speaker 15: And that's one of some of the feedback we've been
31:33
Speaker 15: receiving from employers business owners there to say, wow, we
31:38
Speaker 15: have to wait this long before we implement this. And yes,
31:41
Speaker 15: I understand that. You know, we have systems to update,
31:45
Speaker 15: but a lot of the systems that we've been reviewing
31:47
Speaker 15: are already in some ways ready to go. So yeah,
31:51
Speaker 15: it does seem like a long time to wait before
31:53
Speaker 15: before the actual implementation happens. But I guess we need
31:57
Speaker 15: time to educate everyone we were up to speed. But yes,
32:01
Speaker 15: it'd be great if we could kick it off earlier.
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Speaker 2: Marissa, thank you so much for your time this morning.
32:06
Speaker 2: Have a great day. Mike Hosking is in the studio. Next,
32:09
Speaker 2: it is six to six.
32:12
Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
32:15
Speaker 1: Francesca Rudkin and one roof love where you Live news
32:19
Speaker 1: talks that'd be coming up.
32:21
Speaker 2: At six as the Mike Hostking Breakfast and Mike Hosking
32:23
Speaker 2: joins me.
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Speaker 16: Now, good morning, good morning. A couple of things. Did
32:26
Speaker 16: you know that people a crewed leave just read your
32:29
Speaker 16: interview before. Did you know people a crewed leave when
32:31
Speaker 16: they're on acc?
32:32
Speaker 2: Sorry what the crew?
32:33
Speaker 1: They are?
32:34
Speaker 16: Crew leave right when you're on acc? Oh and that's
32:38
Speaker 16: one of the things they changed yesterday. It's the weirdest thing.
32:40
Speaker 16: How is it possible that you're not working but you're
32:42
Speaker 16: still accruing leave anyway, said I tidly that up. Thank
32:45
Speaker 16: the good Lord our teachers. By the way of that
32:48
Speaker 16: changes out of yesterday, then six years right years away,
32:52
Speaker 16: it's you and I are we did by the time
32:53
Speaker 16: the changes come in, it's.
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Speaker 11: All very well.
32:55
Speaker 2: And I hope not Mike, which brings us to.
32:57
Speaker 16: The border of the mood of the boardroom thing this
33:00
Speaker 16: morning that we'll be covering a little bit. So do
33:02
Speaker 16: you find and I was just discussing this out out there.
33:05
Speaker 16: I mean, I get why they do it, but do
33:07
Speaker 16: you find a point score? Kind of childish a little bit.
33:12
Speaker 2: But I suppose they have kind of broken it down
33:15
Speaker 2: into categories like people have given school that that total
33:18
Speaker 2: score comes from looking at certain things. Yeah, I get,
33:20
Speaker 2: And I suppose they're saying, we don't think you're bringing
33:22
Speaker 2: transformational change. But then they're saying, hey, lot, you're doing
33:25
Speaker 2: really well on an international safe So I suppose they're
33:27
Speaker 2: giving some direction. I mean, it's if you give if
33:30
Speaker 2: you give someone a rating and you don't explain why
33:32
Speaker 2: that's no use, right, but at least here you can
33:35
Speaker 2: look at it and go, oh okay, I got to
33:36
Speaker 2: take here, and I got a cross.
33:37
Speaker 16: The Well, the next question for you is what's a pass?
33:39
Speaker 16: If it's out of five? Is two point five a
33:42
Speaker 16: pass or as three a pass? You know what's your
33:45
Speaker 16: boy five? So it's two point five, you are above
33:48
Speaker 16: two point five, that's.
33:49
Speaker 2: Above good pass, that's a pass.
33:50
Speaker 16: So it's in you and above two point five. Well,
33:52
Speaker 16: in that case most of them pass, So I suppose
33:55
Speaker 16: that's the outside bad anyway.
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Speaker 9: Nikola willis who's.
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Speaker 16: One of the feature topics, and that will be with us.
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Speaker 2: My costume is up next.
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