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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It is 8 to 29. It is Friday Eve. It
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Speaker 1: is time. Brihart Media Aviation expert Jay Ratliff. We get
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Speaker 1: the benefit of his company every week at this time,
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Speaker 1: and I always look forward to it. Jay, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the 55KRC Morning Show, my friend. It's always a
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Speaker 1: pleasure having you on.
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Speaker 2: The pleasure is mine. It's always good to be here.
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Speaker 1: What in the hell were they thinking in South Africa
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Speaker 1: with that flyover? I know you saw the video of that.
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Speaker 1: Jeez Louise. Those were commercial airlines.
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Speaker 2: Had somebody told me that was AI, I'd have said, yeah, obviously.
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Speaker 2: But then we see the story of they've got the
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Speaker 2: international rugby match in South Africa, and they decided to
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Speaker 2: use not military jets, but two regional jets, commercial airliners,
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Speaker 2: to do a flyby. Okay, cool. The problem was, A,
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Speaker 2: they were flying way too low, 50 feet, less than
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Speaker 2: 50 feet above the stadium. You talk about zero room
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Speaker 2: for error. These are not high-performance military aircraft. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about regional jets. Now, to make it even more interesting
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Speaker 2: is before they cleared the stadium, they launched the fireworks.
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Speaker 2: So you then see the picture of one of the
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Speaker 2: jets at least flying through the pyrotechnics as they explode
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Speaker 2: all around them. Now, there was an international purer around
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Speaker 2: the world on this, and the president of that airline
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Speaker 2: came back and said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: This was precision. In practice, we knew exactly what we
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Speaker 2: were doing. We had three captains in each aircraft. That's
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Speaker 2: the biggest CYA I've ever heard of because there's no
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Speaker 2: way you would fly an airplane into explosives or pyrotechnics
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Speaker 2: of any kind, threatening the crew, the people on the ground.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the airplane itself, you just would not do it.
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Speaker 2: We talk about versions. What about the fragments of what's
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Speaker 2: left over from fireworks? I'm telling you. Yeah. So hopefully, thankfully,
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Speaker 2: nobody got hurt. If you've not seen that video, you've
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Speaker 2: got to check it out. And hopefully they've learned their
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Speaker 2: lesson and they won't do any more stunts like this
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Speaker 2: for like ever.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's face it. Flying does not come
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Speaker 1: in the absence of any risk whatsoever. Crazy things happen.
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Speaker 1: Just the idea that that plane was 50 feet above
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Speaker 1: 54,000 people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Lord almighty.
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Speaker 2: It's a mechanical thing. And we all know that mechanical
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Speaker 2: things malfunction. And when you've got altitude, you've got the
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Speaker 2: luxury of time to correct the problem, address the problem,
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Speaker 2: and do whatever needs to be done. When you're that low,
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Speaker 2: you have no options. I mean, whatever happens is going
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Speaker 2: to happen. So you never want to put yourself or
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Speaker 2: people on the ground or on a plane intentionally in
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Speaker 2: harm's way. And when... When you see that video and
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Speaker 2: you just see, you know, I'm sure people in the
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Speaker 2: state have thought, oh, wow, that's the coolest thing ever.
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Speaker 2: I'd have been like, what are those guys doing that
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Speaker 2: low on those types of things? So, yeah, it's, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. Thankfully, you know, and not surprisingly, it happened
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Speaker 2: outside the United States. We do some crazy things here
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Speaker 2: from time to time, but rarely do we, A, have
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Speaker 2: them flying that low as far as a regional jet, B,
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Speaker 2: launching fireworks at them as they fly across the top
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Speaker 2: of the stadium.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unsettling to watch. I guess that I just
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Speaker 1: looked at it again while we were talking. I was
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Speaker 1: going to initially ask you a question about the proximity
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Speaker 1: because it was two commercial airliners and big ones flying
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Speaker 1: pretty darn close to each other. And I've seen, you know,
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Speaker 1: Blue Angels formations and they are just practically touching each other.
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Speaker 1: But is there any concern about like turbulence or something
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Speaker 1: from one aircraft to another that could make the other
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Speaker 1: one destabilize while they're so close to the stadium? Just
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Speaker 1: wildly curious about that, Jay.
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Speaker 2: No, it could. I mean, there's a whole list of
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Speaker 2: things that could happen. they could go wrong. If you
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Speaker 2: had a mechanical situation that caused one of the stabilizers
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Speaker 2: or anything on the aircraft from an avionics standpoint to
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Speaker 2: malfunction even a little bit to quickly change the direction
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Speaker 2: or speed or altitude of that aircraft, you're putting it
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Speaker 2: in harm's way with whatever else might be there. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's just a lot of things there that just didn't
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Speaker 2: make sense. And you could make a list of things
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Speaker 2: that they did wrong and stupid there and Again, we're
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Speaker 2: just very thankful that we're not talking about what could
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Speaker 2: have been an absolutely horrific scene had something happened to
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Speaker 2: one of those aircraft and it gone down in that stadium.
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Speaker 1: Like maybe they upgraded the software in the airplanes and
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Speaker 1: didn't bother telling the pilots about it at the time?
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Speaker 1: One of those kind of things?
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Speaker 2: You know, we didn't want to trouble you with a
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Speaker 2: lot of needless information.
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Speaker 1: Well, since we've got a little bit of time in
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Speaker 1: this segment, let's address the man wandering onto the Lisbon
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Speaker 1: Airport tarmac.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they look up. There he is. They go arrest him,
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Speaker 2: take him to a hospital for mental evaluation. This is
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Speaker 2: another in a very long list of instances where people,
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Speaker 2: you know, hop that very intimidating thing. The security fence
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Speaker 2: with no trespassing on it and wanders across an airport.
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Speaker 2: And any time we have a stowaway, any time we
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Speaker 2: have somebody like this, any time like in Denver where
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Speaker 2: somebody's killed by being on the runway, you wonder why
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Speaker 2: aren't we doing more from a security standpoint. Now, they
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Speaker 2: have done things to make the fences higher. A lot
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Speaker 2: of it put the barbed wire on top, making it
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Speaker 2: more difficult to access the airport. And, look, there have
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Speaker 2: been some improvements since the attacks on 9-11. on security
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Speaker 2: outside the airport, which is needed. But every single time
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Speaker 2: that we've got a stowaway that's found out to have
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Speaker 2: walked across an active runway and the tarmac and accessed
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Speaker 2: an airplane climbing up in it without a single soul
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Speaker 2: seeing them, and nothing from a detection standpoint making anybody
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Speaker 2: aware of the fact that the individual's there, is a
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Speaker 2: very clear indication to me that we've got a lot
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Speaker 2: of work to do to make sure. Because what if
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Speaker 2: this wasn't a stowaway, but a terrorist? it just, we're
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Speaker 2: spending all this money, billions of dollars inside an airport
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Speaker 2: on security. I'm glad we are, but we've got to
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Speaker 2: do more outside. And it just, we continue to be
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Speaker 2: just like, la, la, la, la, la, la. Well, nothing
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Speaker 2: really happens. So I guess it's okay. We're trying to
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Speaker 2: prevent the last attack instead of trying to prevent the
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Speaker 2: next one. And sometimes that lack of a directional focus
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Speaker 2: can really work against us.
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Speaker 1: No question about it. We'll continue with iHeartMedia aviation expert,
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, leaving the tower early air traffic controllers. That
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Speaker 1: is sort of a, A modern work ethic reality going
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Speaker 1: on here? Hmm, let's see what happened with that one,
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Speaker 1: plus so much more. Don't go away. Optimism. Al Saeed,
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Speaker 1: the talk station. You ever been in a cockpit before?
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff has. He is on the air right now.
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Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff did the benefit
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Speaker 1: of his company every week, beginning at 8.30 here on
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Speaker 1: the 55 KRC Morning Show. I don't know about you
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Speaker 1: and your work ethic, Jay Ratliff, but if I got
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Speaker 1: hours and I am responsible for literally human life, I
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Speaker 1: would think leaving the job early might represent a problem, morally, ethically,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps may get terminated as a result of that.
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Speaker 1: We had a couple of air traffic controllers walked off
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Speaker 1: the job early and falsifying their time cards.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and as you know so well from your experience,
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Speaker 2: you know, anytime you, you know, have a company document
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Speaker 2: that you commit fraud on, yeah, that's the perfect recipe
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Speaker 2: to get your butt kicked out the door. But this
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Speaker 2: was two air traffic controllers that we had that were
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Speaker 2: on duty the night of the Air Canada crash with
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Speaker 2: the fire truck. So these two individuals left the tower early. And, well,
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Speaker 2: they called it considerably early. I think that means a
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Speaker 2: long time before they were supposed to. Falsified their time
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Speaker 2: cards and out the door they went. The NTSB that's
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Speaker 2: been doing the investigation, the National Transportation Safety Board, into
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Speaker 2: that accident has discovered the two air traffic controllers left
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Speaker 2: earlier than they should have. Now, the question is, wait
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Speaker 2: a minute, were we below the minimum of having at
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Speaker 2: least two air traffic controllers in the tower at the
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Speaker 2: time of the accident? And we did. So it wasn't
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Speaker 2: like they were leaving them shorthanded. But goodness, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we would all would have loved to have had the
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Speaker 2: chance of two extra sets of eyes in the air
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Speaker 2: traffic control tower. the night that that happened, because perhaps
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Speaker 2: they could have stopped the fire truck from rolling across
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Speaker 2: that active runway when that Air Canada jet was in
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Speaker 2: the process of landing that ended up with two people
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Speaker 2: being killed, the two pilots. But apparently, the FAA has
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Speaker 2: been having a problem with this for some time, not
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Speaker 2: only in D.C., but other places around the country where
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Speaker 2: it's a regular practice for people to leave early and
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Speaker 2: just falsify their time card. And They've been warned repeatedly
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Speaker 2: that this kind of action could lead to their termination.
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Speaker 2: And look, I'll never justify it, Brian, but I know
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Speaker 2: a lot of these individuals are overworked where they work
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Speaker 2: a lot of days in a row. And I could
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Speaker 2: see him saying, look, I'm just going to leave early
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Speaker 2: because I've been here X amount of days in a row.
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Speaker 2: I get that. But you just can't leave your post.
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Speaker 2: You just can't do that when you're talking about, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're not delivering mail. You're protecting people at an airport.
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Speaker 1: And I understand fatigue and your stress and all that.
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Speaker 1: I understand some people can get sick. Maybe you come
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Speaker 1: down with a stomach flu. But you don't just leave
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Speaker 1: and falsify your time card. Isn't there a process in
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Speaker 1: place to go to a supervisor and get permission to
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Speaker 1: leave to make sure all the I's are dotted and
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Speaker 1: T's are crossed for the people in the damn airplanes
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Speaker 1: that are relying on these guys to get them on
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Speaker 1: the ground safely?
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Speaker 2: Total agreement i'm in total agreement my friend and it
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Speaker 2: it shouldn't happen it did happen and it's happened quite
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Speaker 2: a bit hopefully it will not happen and i mean
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Speaker 2: they're talking about these two individuals being fired and the
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Speaker 2: union is doing what the union does trying to protect
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Speaker 2: their their p and i totally get that and this
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Speaker 2: has been something that not only happened at this tower
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Speaker 2: but other places before so you know it when all
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Speaker 2: of this came out it reminded me of not having
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Speaker 2: enough air traffic controllers in lexington when they had the
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Speaker 2: calm air crash back in 2005 or 6 when they
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Speaker 2: try to take off from the wrong and much shorter runway.
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Speaker 2: You just, you want to have as many people on
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Speaker 2: duty as you can just to make sure that you
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Speaker 2: don't miss things because mistakes are going to happen, period.
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Speaker 2: We know that. So what we can do is try
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Speaker 2: to eliminate or reduce the number of those mistakes by
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Speaker 2: having adequate staffing and having the people in place where
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Speaker 2: they need to be. And sadly, that wasn't the case.
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Speaker 2: And look, these individuals are going to have to live
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Speaker 2: with that the rest of their lives saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: am I responsible for not directly but indirectly from not
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Speaker 2: being there to where I might have been able to help.
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Speaker 1: Well, you just alluded to it. Maybe I just want
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Speaker 1: to seal this question I had because your notes indicate
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Speaker 1: they're facing possible termination. You just said a moment ago
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Speaker 1: it could result in their termination. So this is all
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Speaker 1: because of collective bargaining. They have to go through the
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Speaker 1: process and everything. So this isn't a question of whether
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Speaker 1: their termination will be justified. It's just going through the process.
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Speaker 2: Right. And we'll see where it goes. I mean, there
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Speaker 2: have been times that we've had TSA screeners that I
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Speaker 2: think should have been helped to find employment elsewhere and
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Speaker 2: were not. And they were allowed to stay on and
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Speaker 2: just simply went through retraining. And I don't know, when
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Speaker 2: you're talking about a judgment call, when you make the
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Speaker 2: wrong kind of judgment call, that's an intentional act. And
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Speaker 2: that's something that you knowingly are, you know, putting other
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Speaker 2: people at risk. Now, look, these two individuals aren't going
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Speaker 2: to be accountable in a court of law unless civilly
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Speaker 2: something comes up because When the accident happened, one of
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Speaker 2: the air traffic controllers on duty that gave permission for
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Speaker 2: the fire truck to cross was heard on the audio
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Speaker 2: clip saying, man, I really messed up. So, I mean,
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Speaker 2: he was the one that was taking responsibility for it. But,
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Speaker 2: you know, we understand mistakes are going to happen, and
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Speaker 2: it's tragic when they do. But, you know, we've got
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Speaker 2: to do what we can to try to reduce them.
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Speaker 1: No question about it. I've got a minute here for us.
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Speaker 1: What happens when a pilot becomes ill? Maybe an air
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Speaker 1: traffic controller. We just talked about that briefly there sort
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Speaker 1: of as an illustration of possibility. But what about pilots
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Speaker 1: when they become ill?
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Speaker 2: You thank God you got a second pilot. Delta flight
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Speaker 2: taken off from Minneapolis. The captain became ill, turned around,
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Speaker 2: came back and landed. We don't have the status of anything,
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Speaker 2: but apparently he is okay. But yeah, it's the same
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Speaker 2: thing with any crew member. If you've got a flight
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Speaker 2: attendant that becomes incapacitated or there's something that's going on
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Speaker 2: or a pilot, yeah, that plane takes off and it
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Speaker 2: turns right back around and comes back. Each one of
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Speaker 2: those people are part of a safety team that if
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Speaker 2: they're not at 100% or close, you're actually putting that
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Speaker 2: flight and the passengers at risk. So that pilot did
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Speaker 2: exactly what he was trained to do. He knew he
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Speaker 2: wasn't going to be able to continue. He needed help,
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Speaker 2: and he came back and landed. And we've had pilots
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Speaker 2: that have passed away in the cockpit and died. So
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Speaker 2: you've got situations where, you know, statistically, I'm surprised those
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Speaker 2: kind of things don't happen more often given the number
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Speaker 2: of flights in the air every day around the world.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, in this situation, pilot did what he was
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Speaker 2: trained to do. And, you know, other than a delay
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Speaker 2: on some of the passengers, everybody turned out to be okay.
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Speaker 1: That sort of goes to your suggestion. Some of the
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Speaker 1: airlines would like to go to a single pilot program,
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Speaker 1: save them money. Yeah, I don't like that either, Jay.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring Jay back.
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Speaker 2: They want zero pilots. One pilot is just a step
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Speaker 2: in the direction of where they want to head.
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Speaker 1: Well, people struggle with whether or not they'll even get
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Speaker 1: into a driverless Waymo cab downtown Cincinnati. So don't go away.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens when you try to deal with
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Speaker 1: the supply chain parts as a pilot smuggling things into Russia.
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Speaker 1: That and more. One more, Jay Ratliff. Don't go away.
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Speaker 1: I'm KRC, the talk station. 8.49 on a Friday eve.
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Speaker 1: Wrap things up with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 1: This is an Aeroflot, a Russian airline Aeroflot employee. Is
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Speaker 1: he trying to deal with the supply chain problems that
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Speaker 1: may be still going on in Russia? It didn't work
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Speaker 1: out real well for him.
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Speaker 2: It did not. Back when the war with Ukraine started,
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Speaker 2: Russia was kind of isolated. And it was kind of
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Speaker 2: an international agreement. We're not shipping you any commercial airline
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Speaker 2: parts until the situation with Ukraine is over. Let's get
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Speaker 2: it over with. And that was one of the many
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Speaker 2: sanctions that were put on. We've got a former employee
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Speaker 2: of Aeroflot, the Russian carrier that you can pay me
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Speaker 2: to get on, that said, yeah, I could probably buy
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Speaker 2: some parts here in the United States and indirectly kind
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Speaker 2: of get them to Russia without telling who they were
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Speaker 2: buying them from where they were going to. So the
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Speaker 2: employee or this former employee was smuggling, if you will,
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Speaker 2: these much needed airline parts to Russia and got caught
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Speaker 2: and is going to face the consequences for it. But
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Speaker 2: it's so bad and has been so bad that they
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Speaker 2: are using parts on airplanes that are close to fitting.
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Speaker 1: Oh, so they're doing a Boeing.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Well, see, at Boeing, they were accused by
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Speaker 2: the whistleblowers of using somewhat defective parts. Brian, they're going
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Speaker 2: to other airplanes that are made by other people, finding
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Speaker 2: parts that are similar to put on another type of aircraft.
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Speaker 2: So at least Boeing's using the right kind of part,
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Speaker 2: but even if it's defective, according to the whistleblowers. But
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Speaker 2: in this case, it's like if it fits, we're going
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Speaker 2: to use it. And I'm telling you, getting on a
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Speaker 2: Russian carrier airline, no way. The maintenance has always been rather,
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Speaker 2: shall we say, suspect. You and I have talked about
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Speaker 2: how they take off with a bunch of snow on
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Speaker 2: the wing because it'll blow off and all those things. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: totally different state of mind over there, and I just
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Speaker 2: know thank you.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's something I learned from my dad,
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Speaker 1: who if he couldn't fix it with WD-40 and black
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Speaker 1: electrical tape, then he hired somebody. Isn't that what black
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Speaker 1: electrical tape is for, Jay? I mean, come on. It
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Speaker 1: almost fits.
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Speaker 2: Just give it a wrap. You know, in aviation, they've
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Speaker 2: got this high-speed aviation tape, that they put on certain
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Speaker 2: parts of the airplane until it gets a maintenance base
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Speaker 2: and they can fix it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, we've talked about that.
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Speaker 2: But it looks like duct tape.
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Speaker 1: It does.
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Speaker 2: It's slapped on the side of an engine. You've got
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Speaker 2: people going, flight attendant, is that supposed to be there? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's not duct tape. It looks like it. I wish
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Speaker 2: they'd find a different color for it. But, yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: high-speed aviation tape. Because, look, if you have a cowling
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Speaker 2: or something that's kind of flapping loose and needs some
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Speaker 2: rivets or just different types of ways to secure it,
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Speaker 2: You're not going to cancel a flight. You're not going
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Speaker 2: to delay the flight. You can put that on there.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be totally fine. It's not something that
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Speaker 2: would be a no-go item. And, yeah, you would just
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Speaker 2: fix it when it gets to the next maintenance stop
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Speaker 2: because that way you can keep that silver revenue tube going. But, sadly,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't look exactly like that day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little unsettling. I remember my dad telling me
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Speaker 1: a story because he had a pilot's license back, I think,
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Speaker 1: before I was born. He used to actually fly. And
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Speaker 1: he drifted, I guess, into airspace up by Wright-Patt. They
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Speaker 1: scrambled jets and told him to get the hell out
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Speaker 1: of there. That's what happens when you go into restricted airspace.
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Speaker 1: But what about this? Is it Cathay Pacific flight?
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Speaker 2: Cathay Pacific. They've been around for like 100 years. It
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Speaker 2: was a Hong Kong to London flight. And they were
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Speaker 2: over a Hungarian airspace. And the pilots flipped on the
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Speaker 2: wrong frequency. So they weren't on the frequency they were
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Speaker 2: supposed to be on. So in essence, they went radio silent.
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Speaker 2: People are trying to reach him. And la, la, la, la, la, la.
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Speaker 2: They had no clue, right? But they were talking to him.
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Speaker 2: So what happens? They scramble the military jets, the intercepts.
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Speaker 2: They assume that the aircraft has been taken, and they
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Speaker 2: are preparing to do whatever is needed. And, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're in the cockpit. You look up to the left
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Speaker 2: and right, and you're flanked by military aircraft. Yeah, you're
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Speaker 2: going to find out real quick in the cockpit what
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Speaker 2: did we do. And sure enough, they were simply on
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Speaker 2: the wrong frequency. And once they corrected that, people were
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Speaker 2: talking to them. And, yeah, I imagine that would have
17:44
Speaker 2: been a rather– a scary moment to have those not
17:47
Speaker 2: only for the the crew but can you imagine the
17:49
Speaker 2: passengers that's all those things come flying up on the
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Speaker 2: side uh that would be.
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Speaker 1: More than a bit unsettling oh it's just a skosh
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Speaker 1: yeah excuse me it.
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Speaker 2: Makes happen we thought you know and fortunately this is
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Speaker 2: something that you know in an okay situation but yeah
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Speaker 2: they look these days if an airplane is suspected to
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Speaker 2: be Taking over. They're wasting no time on that military.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that, Jay, because wasn't that too
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Speaker 1: long ago in my mind? 9-11, maybe? You know, you
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Speaker 1: got to pay attention to this kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: And Lord willing, next week, we'll spend a couple of
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Speaker 2: minutes on that because there were some fascinating things that
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Speaker 2: happened that day. A lot of heroes and some of
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Speaker 2: them unsung. And I like to talk about them as
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Speaker 2: we talk about, you know, the things that are different
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Speaker 2: between now and then.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad, and I have something even more to look
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Speaker 1: forward to for our discussion next Thursday. Jay Ratliff, how
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Speaker 1: are things looking out there in terms of air travel today?
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Speaker 2: A ton of delays in the Gulf Coast, especially Houston,
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Speaker 2: with the storms we've got down there. Chicago and New
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Speaker 2: York as well are going to see some issues. I
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Speaker 2: think the biggest headache is going to be the Gulf Coast,
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Speaker 2: especially Houston, which hasn't caught a break all week, but...
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Speaker 2: Other than that, yeah, it should be a good day
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Speaker 2: to fly, although a bit turbulent. Not dangerous, just uncomfortable.
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Speaker 2: Keep your seatbelt fastened about you. You should be in
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Speaker 2: good shape.