Latest / Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast / RUSH HOUR: Angels TV/radio man Trent Rush is the Swiss Army knife of broadcasters; he does it all
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Well, the Dodgers are trailing the Brewers in their National
- 0:12Speaker 1: League Championship Series. The Rams just lost Monday night in
- 0:16Speaker 1: an overtime nail-biter to the Bills and are 2-3. This
- 0:19Speaker 1: is a team some thought might go undefeated this year.
- 0:23Speaker 1: The Chargers are 0-5. The Kings haven't won a game yet.
- 0:26Speaker 1: And we just finished a season where the Angels lost
- 0:29Speaker 1: 100 games for the first time in franchise history. So
- 0:34Speaker 1: LA Sports is definitely having a moment right now. Not
- 0:36Speaker 1: sure how I'd describe it. But on that note, we
- 0:39Speaker 1: welcome Trent Rush, Angels TV radio broadcaster. Trent, how you doing?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Well, I was doing well.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden I'm in gloom and it's cloudy.
- 0:49Speaker 2: What the heck is going on around here? Let's go.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Well, knowing those Dodgers, they can turn it around in
- 0:55Speaker 1: a hurry. So we are taping on Wednesday before Game 3.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in Game 3. That series
- 1:04Speaker 1: could turn on a heartbeat.
- 1:05Speaker 2: You never know.
- 1:07Speaker 4: I think your colleague called for Shohei to be pined.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Oh, I know. How about that, Trent?
- 1:11Speaker 1: You read Bill Shakin in the LA Times today?
- 1:13Speaker 2: Shango was to bench Shohei?
- 1:16Speaker 1: Trumbo was giving me grief because I wanted to drop
- 1:19Speaker 1: him down to seven in the order. I just thought
- 1:21Speaker 1: that he'd be shamed into hitting again. And Bill Shakin
- 1:25Speaker 1: came right out. No, he said not only should he
- 1:27Speaker 1: be benched, he should be taken off the playoff roster.
- 1:31Speaker 2: So replaced completely.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Okay, so I— I know it's your show, but if
- 1:34Speaker 3: you don't mind, I'm just used to it. I want
- 1:36Speaker 3: to ask Mark a question here. I floated the idea
- 1:40Speaker 3: on Channel 11 about actually moving him up in the lineup,
- 1:43Speaker 3: a la like what Joe Maddon would do when guys
- 1:46Speaker 3: are struggling. I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't bench him.
- 1:49Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Yeah. I think this is a tough one. He's got
- 1:57Speaker 4: unbelievable ability, as we've seen, but– when he's cold and if,
- 2:01Speaker 4: especially if he's injured and battling some sort of injury,
- 2:04Speaker 4: I'm not sure I see an easy solution. Uh, the
- 2:08Speaker 4: best course is probably to let him swing it out. Uh,
- 2:12Speaker 4: unfortunately it sounds like he's not able to do all
- 2:13Speaker 4: those extra reps that he probably wants to, to try
- 2:16Speaker 4: and find it. You really don't be trying to find
- 2:18Speaker 4: it this time of the year anyway. Um, and as
- 2:20Speaker 4: far as managing his workload, and I mean, that's already
- 2:24Speaker 4: a hurdle in itself with the pitching, uh, It's just
- 2:27Speaker 4: a bad time to be dealing with this. And he
- 2:30Speaker 4: is one of those guys. They have a lot of
- 2:32Speaker 4: extra weapons, but he's one that they absolutely count on
- 2:35Speaker 4: and are going to need to make this happen. But
- 2:39Speaker 4: the Brewers, even with a healthy Shohei, I'm not sure
- 2:42Speaker 4: that's enough. They've got an outstanding club. I think that's
- 2:45Speaker 4: the absolute pinnacle of what every team should be looking
- 2:49Speaker 4: to aim towards. I think the Halos, I mean, that's
- 2:53Speaker 4: a nice blueprint. It's going to be tough to get
- 2:55Speaker 4: there quickly, but I think that's kind of part of
- 2:58Speaker 4: what we were thinking. I wanted to start out with
- 3:01Speaker 4: a question for you. I think you did a very
- 3:03Speaker 4: admirable job doing play-by-play with ABTV this year. I think
- 3:07Speaker 4: for those that haven't, I've been in the booth kind
- 3:10Speaker 4: of able to witness it. It's very difficult. It moves
- 3:13Speaker 4: very quickly. Maybe you could just talk about how pumped
- 3:16Speaker 4: you were for the opportunity, how tough it is to
- 3:18Speaker 4: go between that uh and doing some pre post game
- 3:22Speaker 4: radio um just the the how do you manage your
- 3:26Speaker 4: time and how do you prepare for for a gig like.
- 3:28Speaker 3: That yeah well i'm trying to make up for in
- 3:31Speaker 3: the off season now but we got so much going
- 3:33Speaker 3: on it's been it's been difficult thank you for the
- 3:35Speaker 3: kind words it it was, it's difficult. It's a hard job.
- 3:39Speaker 3: And it's funny. You think about what are the three
- 3:42Speaker 3: jobs that every fan thinks they can do? Every fan
- 3:45Speaker 3: thinks they can be the manager. Every fan thinks they
- 3:48Speaker 3: can be the champ and every fan thinks that, uh,
- 3:50Speaker 3: they can be a play-by-play broadcaster. And, you know, in
- 3:54Speaker 3: a way you think about, you know, all the things
- 3:56Speaker 3: that go into it. And, uh, It was a lot
- 4:00Speaker 3: of fun getting a chance to work with Mark Gubizot.
- 4:02Speaker 3: It was a treat being with that crew. They do
- 4:05Speaker 3: a really good job on ABTV. I hope Angel fans
- 4:07Speaker 3: can appreciate just the production and everything that goes into
- 4:11Speaker 3: what's done on Angel's broadcast. I think it's top-notch. And, yeah,
- 4:15Speaker 3: there's certainly a learning curve that comes along with that
- 4:17Speaker 3: and developing that chemistry, and that always takes a little
- 4:21Speaker 3: bit of time to figure that out.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And, you know, it was always kind of interesting calling
- 4:26Speaker 3: the game on TV and then going to take fan
- 4:28Speaker 3: phone calls on the radio afterwards. And, you know, it
- 4:31Speaker 3: did make things, I wouldn't say it wasn't totally easy,
- 4:35Speaker 3: but this is part of the deal. This is what
- 4:37Speaker 3: you sign up for. I have a dream job. I
- 4:38Speaker 3: recognize that. So if that's the struggle, then I'll live
- 4:42Speaker 3: with it.
- 4:45Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, Trent, it seemed pretty seamless
- 4:47Speaker 1: once you got going in this job. What actually came
- 4:51Speaker 1: naturally for you and what were the biggest hurdles you
- 4:54Speaker 1: had to clear? Was maybe the hardest part the technical
- 4:57Speaker 1: stuff or just broadcasting for a team that was headed
- 5:00Speaker 1: for a 100-loss season and trying to sound like you
- 5:03Speaker 1: weren't reading a eulogy every night?
- 5:06Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I've been around long enough. This
- 5:09Speaker 3: is my 12th year with the Angels.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 5:12Speaker 3: I've seen some tough times. There's no question I've seen
- 5:15Speaker 3: some tough times. That's one thing I always have taken
- 5:19Speaker 3: a lot of pride in is after games, going on
- 5:22Speaker 3: the radio and answering fan questions and sometimes trying to
- 5:26Speaker 3: answer for decisions I didn't make. That's always been something
- 5:29Speaker 3: that has been difficult. There's a fine balance to that. Honestly,
- 5:34Speaker 3: When I first got going, I probably was a little bit,
- 5:38Speaker 3: probably too much, just like, hey, it's all going to
- 5:40Speaker 3: be okay. But keep in mind, you know, when I
- 5:43Speaker 3: got started, I was 23 years old with the Angels
- 5:46Speaker 3: and the Angels were coming off a stretch where things
- 5:48Speaker 3: pretty much were always going to be okay. It was
- 5:50Speaker 3: a really good time. And it's been difficult since, there's
- 5:54Speaker 3: no denying that. And unfortunately, I've gotten my fair share
- 5:58Speaker 3: of handling tough losses. I would say the most difficult
- 6:02Speaker 3: part I think was just kind of trying to block
- 6:05Speaker 3: out the outside noise and focus on what I need
- 6:07Speaker 3: to focus on. Take care of the baseball, getting total
- 6:10Speaker 3: command of the game, being on top of that, knowing
- 6:13Speaker 3: how to talk to the truck appropriately. But then even
- 6:15Speaker 3: little things, setting up my monitor to where I could
- 6:18Speaker 3: look at Mark Gubiza when I'm in a broadcast and
- 6:21Speaker 3: not just looking at my monitor the whole time. Understanding
- 6:23Speaker 3: some of those mechanics. And it's also very difficult to
- 6:27Speaker 3: step in on a once a week basis when Gooby
- 6:30Speaker 3: and Wayne are doing it every single day and they
- 6:32Speaker 3: do an amazing job. And then, you know, just kind
- 6:34Speaker 3: of dropping in for a night and trying to pick
- 6:36Speaker 3: up the pieces where I'm just another chapter in the
- 6:39Speaker 3: book and another chapter starts the next day. It's not
- 6:42Speaker 3: a new book every single time. There is an adjustment
- 6:44Speaker 3: to that. I tried to understand it the best I could.
- 6:47Speaker 3: But look, Wayne and I are very different. We call
- 6:50Speaker 3: a very different game. I think our strengths are very different.
- 6:52Speaker 3: And that's probably something that maybe wasn't always the easiest
- 6:57Speaker 3: for the audience to, to totally grasp, but I felt
- 7:00Speaker 3: like I did my best. I think we did a
- 7:01Speaker 3: really good job and I'm proud of the work done
- 7:03Speaker 3: with Mark.
- 7:06Speaker 4: I think you should be. I think one of the
- 7:09Speaker 4: biggest benefits and, and, and, you know, an attribute for
- 7:14Speaker 4: any kind of somebody interested in doing play by play
- 7:17Speaker 4: is the knowledge of the game and really doing the homework.
- 7:20Speaker 4: And I think that there's a question in here that
- 7:22Speaker 4: we'll kind of get to, that and, you know, some
- 7:25Speaker 4: of the, some of the nice work you were able
- 7:26Speaker 4: to do, but going down and talking to the players,
- 7:28Speaker 4: I think is imperative and all of that. But you
- 7:31Speaker 4: had touched on the radio and the phone calls. It's
- 7:35Speaker 4: something we want to integrate on this show. I don't
- 7:37Speaker 4: know if it's a great idea, but I do think
- 7:38Speaker 4: it would be a lot of fun. Is there, is
- 7:41Speaker 4: there some, you don't have to give all of the examples,
- 7:44Speaker 4: but the majority of the calls usually have a pretty
- 7:47Speaker 4: strong opinion. How do you navigate those? How do you
- 7:50Speaker 4: keep it original with the answers? Because, you know, even
- 7:53Speaker 4: on our show, we get the same types of questions
- 7:56Speaker 4: a lot. You don't have to answer all of them,
- 8:00Speaker 4: but in a phone call, I guess you do. Is
- 8:02Speaker 4: there an art to that? What do you do about it?
- 8:04Speaker 4: How do you go about that?
- 8:05Speaker 3: I think so. I've always thought of the character or
- 8:08Speaker 3: the callers are a character on the show. They are
- 8:10Speaker 3: part of it. So when Luke and Huntington Beach calls
- 8:13Speaker 3: or RJ and Riverside or whoever's calling in, they're a
- 8:16Speaker 3: part of the show. And I think that sometimes the
- 8:19Speaker 3: other listeners want to hear what they have to say
- 8:22Speaker 3: in a way. Sometimes it's for a little bit of
- 8:25Speaker 3: comedic relief from time to time. And when I get it,
- 8:28Speaker 3: you know, when Harold in North Hollywood calls me and
- 8:30Speaker 3: wants to rant and rave and get all mad about
- 8:32Speaker 3: any little thing. I personally find a little bit of comedy.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Not a little bit. I find a lot of comedy
- 8:37Speaker 3: in that. I think it's kind of funny when folks
- 8:40Speaker 3: get really upset. And so I let them have their
- 8:43Speaker 3: moment and then I address it as best we can.
- 8:46Speaker 3: That's probably one difference between doing that show and this show.
- 8:49Speaker 3: On that show, there's a new game every single night.
- 8:51Speaker 3: So while the big picture topics do remain the same
- 8:54Speaker 3: and you're providing the information as best you possibly can,
- 8:58Speaker 3: I like to keep it to the game itself and
- 9:00Speaker 3: break that down and different things that happen. On a
- 9:03Speaker 3: baseball front, but I think one thing that's easy to do,
- 9:07Speaker 3: and it's a mistake, is to lose sight of the
- 9:10Speaker 3: grander picture of what the season is. When you're 30
- 9:15Speaker 3: games under. 500 and you lose a game in early September, okay,
- 9:18Speaker 3: are we really just going to crush the bullpen every
- 9:20Speaker 3: single night? You've got to talk about the bigger theme
- 9:23Speaker 3: and what happened here and maybe some of the pieces
- 9:25Speaker 3: that get used. in different spots and maybe why a
- 9:27Speaker 3: player's on the roster and how to fix it moving forward.
- 9:30Speaker 3: So I always would try to do that on the
- 9:32Speaker 3: radio show as best I could. You know, you don't
- 9:35Speaker 3: want any show to be totally repetitive. And we kept
- 9:38Speaker 3: it fresh enough. But I do think that there is
- 9:40Speaker 3: an art to understanding how to handle that. Fortunately or unfortunately,
- 9:44Speaker 3: I've gotten a lot of experience over the last decade
- 9:46Speaker 3: doing so. So hopefully we have it figured out by now.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Is there like one wackiest call or one most memorable
- 9:54Speaker 1: call over the, I don't know how many years you've
- 9:56Speaker 1: done that job specifically, but, or one that stands out
- 9:58Speaker 1: the most?
- 10:00Speaker 3: You know, it's not, it's not like one call in particular,
- 10:04Speaker 3: but I mentioned, you know, some of the names and, Again,
- 10:07Speaker 3: these callers become characters, and you can almost expect... Like,
- 10:11Speaker 3: I have a screen. I'm going to take you behind
- 10:12Speaker 3: the curtain right now. I got a screen in front
- 10:14Speaker 3: of me that shows the list and all the names
- 10:17Speaker 3: of who's calling. There are certain callers that, for the
- 10:20Speaker 3: right moment, I'm going to know to go to them.
- 10:23Speaker 5: And I....
- 10:25Speaker 3: When things are, you know, if we're in a, hey,
- 10:27Speaker 3: life is great, but, you know, the Angels did just
- 10:29Speaker 3: lose 12-3 and we've got to bring a little bit
- 10:32Speaker 3: of that to it. I know who I can ask
- 10:34Speaker 3: to come on and kind of, you know, lay it down.
- 10:37Speaker 3: But conversely, you know, the Angels has won a game. Hey,
- 10:40Speaker 3: how come everyone's so negative tonight? Can we at least
- 10:42Speaker 3: smile and enjoy a victory? My goodness, you know, they're
- 10:45Speaker 3: hard to come by. Let's enjoy these. And there's certain
- 10:48Speaker 3: colors that can bring that to the table as well.
- 10:50Speaker 3: So finding that balance, I think, is really important. But
- 10:54Speaker 3: I don't know. There's probably not one call in particular.
- 10:57Speaker 3: And every year it seems like there's a new cast.
- 10:59Speaker 3: You know, some carry over year to year. You pick
- 11:02Speaker 3: some up. You lose some. They come back. It ebbs
- 11:05Speaker 3: and flows over the course of the season.
- 11:06Speaker 2: That's funny.
- 11:07Speaker 1: We've only done this show for 10-plus months, and we
- 11:09Speaker 1: have a regular cast of characters who comment on every episode, some, many,
- 11:15Speaker 1: and I'm sure in-depth, I mean, long comments, and I'm
- 11:19Speaker 1: sure Mark is trying to figure out what character we
- 11:22Speaker 1: can assign to Ben Gulls. But, hey, we're going to
- 11:24Speaker 1: take a quick break for a word from our sponsors,
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- 12:19Speaker 5: to Halo Territory with Mike DiGiovanna, former LA Times baseball writer,
- 12:21Speaker 5: Mark Trumbo, the former Angels slugger, and Trent Rush, the
- 12:23Speaker 5: Angels radio and TV broadcaster. Well, Trent, you mentioned.
- 12:45Speaker 1: It's been a rough go for the Angels. We're not
- 12:48Speaker 1: kidding anybody about that.
- 12:51Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
- 12:51Speaker 1: You mentioned some of those fans like you can't even
- 12:54Speaker 1: appreciate a win every now and then.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Do you any do you or.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Any of your broadcast partners ever get complaints from fans
- 13:00Speaker 1: who would maybe like to see you guys even be
- 13:02Speaker 1: more critical at times, especially during a season like this
- 13:05Speaker 1: last one?
- 13:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's. always noise that's out there. And
- 13:10Speaker 3: I think it becomes a point of how much do
- 13:11Speaker 3: you take in and how much do you just kind
- 13:14Speaker 3: of let go by the wayside. I think that one
- 13:16Speaker 3: thing that I have found is when I have a
- 13:18Speaker 3: fan that wants to approach me and have a conversation
- 13:21Speaker 3: face to face. A lot of times that's a very
- 13:24Speaker 3: different conversation than maybe just posting on social media. So
- 13:28Speaker 3: I've actually worked really hard to block out what I
- 13:31Speaker 3: see on social media. And it's a tough balance because
- 13:34Speaker 3: I've taken so much pride in being accessible to the
- 13:36Speaker 3: fans and, you know, being there and wanting to be
- 13:39Speaker 3: out and about and talk to people. So I've really
- 13:41Speaker 3: tried to make a point to do that face to face. And,
- 13:44Speaker 3: you know, I can't speak for other guys. I mean,
- 13:47Speaker 3: There certainly are some folks that would probably prefer if
- 13:52Speaker 3: I would just bash the team all the time because
- 13:54Speaker 3: they're not winning. And I accept that. At the same time,
- 13:59Speaker 3: it's competition. You still enjoy wins. We all want what's best.
- 14:03Speaker 3: This I will speak for my fellow broadcasters on. This
- 14:06Speaker 3: is a group that cares deeply about the success of
- 14:09Speaker 3: Angels baseball and wanting to see this group win on
- 14:12Speaker 3: a nightly basis. And I think that if you listen
- 14:14Speaker 3: to everybody that's on, it's going to come through. It's
- 14:17Speaker 3: going to be expressed. Maybe not as overtly as some
- 14:20Speaker 3: fans would like to hear, but it's always expressed. It's
- 14:22Speaker 3: always said. We want to see the Angels win every
- 14:26Speaker 3: single night. You know, sometimes you take the hard losses
- 14:30Speaker 3: home with you, which is tough. But you get excited
- 14:33Speaker 3: about the good wins as well. It's all part of it. So, yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 3: I mean, there's probably some social media noise, but that's
- 14:39Speaker 3: not something I'm concerning myself with overly.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Talking about soliciting opinions on X. What a losing proposition.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Yes.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
- 14:51Speaker 4: Disregard.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Okay.
- 14:53Speaker 4: Okay. I want to ask you something that you're uniquely
- 14:56Speaker 4: qualified to answer. I was fascinated by it. Kenny Albert
- 14:59Speaker 4: stepped in the other day for Joe Davis at a
- 15:01Speaker 4: moment's notice for a playoff game. He had not covered
- 15:05Speaker 4: a single major league baseball game all season. I mean,
- 15:10Speaker 4: to get up to speed with the rules and everything,
- 15:12Speaker 4: how difficult is that in your opinion? And I believe
- 15:15Speaker 4: he's the only broadcaster that's done all four major sports.
- 15:18Speaker 4: And I don't know how many you've done. Is there
- 15:20Speaker 4: one that's the hardest, the easiest broadcast?
- 15:24Speaker 3: Gosh, it's so funny. Well, let me answer on Kenny
- 15:26Speaker 3: Albert first. That was amazing what he did. And I
- 15:28Speaker 3: think I read that he was prepping for a colonoscopy
- 15:32Speaker 3: when he got the call to go do that, which
- 15:35Speaker 3: just takes it to a whole nother level for how
- 15:37Speaker 3: incredible it was what he did. I think that understanding
- 15:40Speaker 3: the teams and the games, the changes in the game,
- 15:44Speaker 3: I think you kind of have to do that naturally.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Like for me in college football, you know, I wasn't
- 15:48Speaker 3: able to do as much college football earlier in the season.
- 15:51Speaker 3: You know, I kind of stayed up on it and
- 15:54Speaker 3: then sure enough, I'm going to end up doing some
- 15:55Speaker 3: games later in the year. And, You always kind of
- 15:59Speaker 3: have to have your feel on what's happening. I think
- 16:01Speaker 3: that's where, just naturally as a sports fan, you just
- 16:04Speaker 3: follow along with that. I think that to drop in
- 16:08Speaker 3: into a playoff game, into the high stakes of that,
- 16:11Speaker 3: is incredibly difficult. I think there's also two different ways
- 16:15Speaker 3: to look at this. I think when you're talking about
- 16:17Speaker 3: a national broadcast... you can get away with knowing the
- 16:21Speaker 3: bigger picture stories, knowing the stars, not having to have
- 16:25Speaker 3: the intricacies of each team and all the little details. Now,
- 16:29Speaker 3: you need to be able to know a manager decision
- 16:32Speaker 3: on who he's going to use in certain situations coming,
- 16:34Speaker 3: you know, especially bullpen decisions, or if there's a pinch
- 16:37Speaker 3: running situation to be able to prompt your analysts that way,
- 16:40Speaker 3: you've got to be able to know that. But I
- 16:42Speaker 3: think there's also some things that happen when you're doing
- 16:44Speaker 3: like a team broadcast day to day that is so
- 16:47Speaker 3: detailed and you're so involved in It's very tough to
- 16:51Speaker 3: just parachute into that. I don't think you could do
- 16:53Speaker 3: it for a local broadcast, but Kenny Albert did do it,
- 16:56Speaker 3: especially in a playoff game. You know what the stakes are.
- 16:58Speaker 3: I think if anything, that makes it a smidge easier,
- 17:01Speaker 3: but I don't want to take anything away from Kenny Albert.
- 17:03Speaker 3: That was one of the all-time great performances to do
- 17:06Speaker 3: that on literally a moment's notice to step in and
- 17:09Speaker 3: do a fantastic job calling a game. Kenny Albert truly
- 17:12Speaker 3: is one of the best in the game.
- 17:14Speaker 1: I have not broadcast the four major sports, but I've
- 17:17Speaker 1: covered them in addition to many others. And I will say, Mark,
- 17:20Speaker 1: if there's one sport broadcast-wise that is the toughest, it's
- 17:23Speaker 1: got to be hockey. I don't know if you've done
- 17:25Speaker 1: any NHL hockey, Trent. I covered a Ducks game last
- 17:28Speaker 1: night for the AP, and just trying to wrap my
- 17:31Speaker 1: head around the speed of the game after covering a
- 17:34Speaker 1: whole baseball season. It's just mind-boggling how quickly that game moves.
- 17:39Speaker 1: And to memorize all the players, because the players, the
- 17:42Speaker 1: line changes, the shifts, Everything changes while the game is flowing.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I can't imagine anything harder than hockey. Maybe Trent, you, you,
- 17:50Speaker 1: you have anything to add there?
- 17:52Speaker 3: Well, I dropped, I did the softball world cup one
- 17:55Speaker 3: year and I had Chinese Taipei dropped on me and
- 17:59Speaker 3: learning those names. That was, that was an adventure. There's no,
- 18:04Speaker 3: there's no PR point of contact. It's a necessarily coach
- 18:07Speaker 3: that hangs your roster and says, go for it. I'm
- 18:09Speaker 3: calling my fourth game of the day. That's what that is. No,
- 18:13Speaker 3: I've done football, basketball, baseball, soccer, volleyball, basketball, I mentioned softball.
- 18:19Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I've done some lacrosse. I did
- 18:21Speaker 3: some high school field hockey when I was first coming up.
- 18:24Speaker 3: It was like you just say yes to every assignment
- 18:27Speaker 3: and you do whatever you can to make a life
- 18:29Speaker 3: in this business. And it's very difficult. It's... There's a
- 18:33Speaker 3: lot of work that nobody sees. I can't begin to
- 18:36Speaker 3: tell you how many games I've called that have had
- 18:38Speaker 3: a listenership of zero or single digits for what I've
- 18:43Speaker 3: done in the past. And you do those. They're really
- 18:45Speaker 3: important reps. And I remember I was doing Long Beach
- 18:48Speaker 3: State baseball. They gave me 50 bucks to do a game.
- 18:50Speaker 3: I thought, this is the greatest thing in the world.
- 18:51Speaker 3: They're actually going to pay me to do these games?
- 18:54Speaker 3: This is unbelievable that they're doing this.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all of it. I think the toughest in
- 19:00Speaker 3: a way is baseball. For a home, a local broadcast
- 19:04Speaker 3: on TV. I think baseball is the toughest that there
- 19:06Speaker 3: is just because you literally have to be in tune
- 19:09Speaker 3: with everything that's going on in the organization. There's a
- 19:12Speaker 3: lot of mechanic to it that's difficult. Versus football, it's
- 19:16Speaker 3: like very rhythmic. You call the action, the replay happens.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Analyst takes over, you get set up, back to the
- 19:21Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, you go. Basketball, it's a free-flowing pace. Baseball,
- 19:25Speaker 3: the pace kind of changes on a night-to-night basis, and
- 19:27Speaker 3: that's something that I think is a real art, and
- 19:29Speaker 3: there's very few that are excellent at it.
- 19:32Speaker 2: And you have a lot of downtime to fill in.
- 19:34Speaker 2: As Vince Kelly would have told you.
- 19:37Speaker 1: So, Trent, you had a great tidbit on a telecast
- 19:40Speaker 1: in August about interim GM John Moselock having a sit-down
- 19:43Speaker 1: with Zach Netto and admonishing the shortstop for his lack
- 19:46Speaker 1: of hustle. Are you in court uh encouraged by your
- 19:49Speaker 1: bosses to do more of this pre-game type of original
- 19:53Speaker 1: reporting like that and to incorporate in the in the
- 19:57Speaker 1: broadcast uh if not would you like to do more
- 19:59Speaker 1: of that yourself as you grow into this job.
- 20:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when there's news, you got to share it.
- 20:05Speaker 3: And I felt like that was news. And I felt
- 20:07Speaker 3: like it was an important story to tell. And I'm
- 20:09Speaker 3: not going to gatekeep anything. And that's also something, to
- 20:12Speaker 3: be totally transparent, I'm going to have that conversation pregame.
- 20:15Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it with Gooby. I'm going
- 20:18Speaker 3: to talk about that with Erica. And we're going to
- 20:20Speaker 3: kind of know. You know, a lot of times, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 3: Erica and I could end up with the same story
- 20:25Speaker 3: and who's going to tell it and how. And Erica
- 20:28Speaker 3: does an amazing job of enterprising so much of her
- 20:30Speaker 3: own stuff. She had enterprise some of her own stories
- 20:32Speaker 3: that day. So I was like, OK, well, I'm going
- 20:34Speaker 3: to tell this one from the play by play chair.
- 20:37Speaker 3: So I'm comfortable doing that. I don't mind it. I
- 20:40Speaker 3: like it. I don't know. I never got any direct
- 20:43Speaker 3: feedback on that note in particular. But I think that
- 20:48Speaker 3: when you have the relationship that I've been fortunate enough
- 20:51Speaker 3: to have with our players to be able to go
- 20:53Speaker 3: to these guys in the clubhouse, a lot of our conversations, candidly,
- 20:57Speaker 3: are off record. That conversation I had with Zach was
- 21:00Speaker 3: on record. I got that note from Zach directly. I
- 21:04Speaker 3: have a relationship with whoever's been the GM here. I
- 21:09Speaker 3: was here for the end of the Depota time. From
- 21:12Speaker 3: Billy Epler, I was close with Billy. I had a
- 21:14Speaker 3: good relationship with Perry Manassian. I have a good relationship
- 21:16Speaker 3: with John Mazalog. So, you know, having that to have
- 21:20Speaker 3: an understanding, even if you're getting off record information, sometimes
- 21:24Speaker 3: I can give you some important background into maybe how
- 21:26Speaker 3: to tell a story and the nature of it. So
- 21:29Speaker 3: maybe I'm not giving... saying exactly what was said to
- 21:33Speaker 3: me at that time because it was an off-record conversation.
- 21:36Speaker 3: But that context is really important to tell the overall
- 21:39Speaker 3: story of what's happening in the season. So if I
- 21:43Speaker 3: have those opportunities to tell a story like that, I
- 21:45Speaker 3: have felt no resistance to do so. I think it's
- 21:48Speaker 3: important for the audience. And my bosses ask me to
- 21:51Speaker 3: tell the best story possible. And that's what I try
- 21:54Speaker 3: to do in that situation.
- 21:55Speaker 2: All right. Mike?
- 21:57Speaker 4: I think it was maybe the story of the year.
- 21:59Speaker 4: It's not going to get as much notoriety as the
- 22:01Speaker 4: sale of the club, but it really, no, it was,
- 22:05Speaker 4: it was a great thing for all parties involved. Most
- 22:09Speaker 4: John Mosaic looked like he was taking an active role
- 22:13Speaker 4: and a necessary step. And I think Zach very much,
- 22:16Speaker 4: it was that, you know, his improvements were tangible, noticeable
- 22:19Speaker 4: at the end, different player, different mindset. So I think
- 22:22Speaker 4: that was really good. And then a note about, For
- 22:26Speaker 4: players out there or anyone dealing with the media, you
- 22:28Speaker 4: can't assume anything is ever off the record. These scumbags,
- 22:31Speaker 4: like the guy hosting the show, you can't trust them.
- 22:35Speaker 4: You got to make sure what you're saying.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
- 22:39Speaker 4: Lies, lies, lies. The old school guys are better. But
- 22:43Speaker 4: in today's world, Twitter and X. Best, you know, calculate
- 22:48Speaker 4: what you're going to say.
- 22:50Speaker 1: My brother has been on me to write a book
- 22:52Speaker 1: about all this, you know, what I've heard over the years.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, do you know what off the record means?
- 22:59Speaker 1: More than half the stuff I couldn't print and I
- 23:02Speaker 1: couldn't put their names to them. And, you know, it's like, okay,
- 23:05Speaker 1: what happens after the first chapter? You know, it's like
- 23:08Speaker 1: they don't understand. But yeah, off the record, very important.
- 23:10Speaker 1: But as Trent was saying, you have off the record
- 23:13Speaker 1: conversations to inform people.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Other stories.
- 23:16Speaker 1: And while you may not quote a person directly off
- 23:19Speaker 1: the record, you can often weave that information, you know,
- 23:22Speaker 1: whether it's an anonymous source or, you know, on background
- 23:25Speaker 1: as things evolve on the field. So it always, I
- 23:28Speaker 1: think bottom line, I think it always helps whether you're
- 23:31Speaker 1: a TV reporter, a radio reporter, or a print reporter
- 23:34Speaker 1: to have these conversations, as many of them as you
- 23:37Speaker 1: can to get to know these players, for them to
- 23:39Speaker 1: trust you as I'm sure Mark trusted this reporter.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Over the years. But, yeah, it's all very important for sure.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always funny. I have no trouble getting
- 23:52Speaker 3: somebody to talk to me off record. As soon as
- 23:54Speaker 3: I want to go on record, now all of a
- 23:55Speaker 3: sudden I want to do it.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 23:58Speaker 3: I appreciate that the Angels have given me the latitude
- 24:00Speaker 3: to be able to chime in on that and be
- 24:02Speaker 3: able to have those conversations through the years.
- 24:07Speaker 4: You were on the mushroom program, Mike. Keep you in
- 24:10Speaker 4: the dark.
- 24:10Speaker 3: All right.
- 24:13Speaker 2: You've been hosting that one for a while.
- 24:15Speaker 4: No, it's always there. Trent, have you met Mr. Kroenke?
- 24:22Speaker 4: I mean, everyone's excited. For those like yourself working in
- 24:26Speaker 4: the organization, can you just possibly give us a little
- 24:29Speaker 4: insight into the overall feel, the mood? It seems like
- 24:35Speaker 4: this is a very positive step and an owner that
- 24:38Speaker 4: knows how to win.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that way. To answer your question, no,
- 24:42Speaker 3: I have not met Mr. Kroenke. I did meet Kevin
- 24:45Speaker 3: Demoff when the Rams first moved to LA. I was
- 24:49Speaker 3: covering the Rams for the radio station at the time,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and we were around, and we were on that move
- 24:53Speaker 3: pretty heavily. So I got to know Mr. Demoff a
- 24:56Speaker 3: little bit through there, but I haven't really connected all
- 24:59Speaker 3: that much with anybody from KSE at this point. I
- 25:02Speaker 3: do think that there is a level of excitement. I
- 25:05Speaker 3: think the fans, of course, can sense that. I know
- 25:08Speaker 3: from callers into the show and going around and into
- 25:11Speaker 3: the community, I'll be honest with you, not a day
- 25:13Speaker 3: goes by where I'm out and about and somebody doesn't
- 25:16Speaker 3: come up to me and they're excited about the future
- 25:19Speaker 3: of Angels baseball. And I think that it's twofold, right?
- 25:23Speaker 3: I think on one hand, you can look at, you know,
- 25:26Speaker 3: Artie Moreno treating the Angels like a major market organization
- 25:30Speaker 3: and the impact that he made the first half of
- 25:31Speaker 3: his tenure. I think you can also look to, well,
- 25:34Speaker 3: what Stan Kroenke has done, and every team that he's
- 25:37Speaker 3: had has done nothing but win. And that's clearly a
- 25:41Speaker 3: very important thing. I would also guess that the land
- 25:45Speaker 3: that's around Angel Stadium is probably pretty desirable and everything
- 25:49Speaker 3: that's going on here with what the Ducks are doing,
- 25:51Speaker 3: with what Disney is doing, with what could happen and
- 25:53Speaker 3: the potential in the city of Anaheim. I think that
- 25:57Speaker 3: there's a lot to like. I'm no expert on this,
- 26:00Speaker 3: but if I was a developer, I would love the
- 26:05Speaker 3: plot of land that Angel Stadium sits on right now.
- 26:07Speaker 3: So I think that there's a lot to it. And
- 26:09Speaker 3: I think for Angel fans, every reason to be optimistic
- 26:13Speaker 3: about what's to come.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Well, Trent, with an ownership change comes uncertainty from the
- 26:18Speaker 1: front office to the coaching staff to the players, and
- 26:21Speaker 1: there's no getting around it sometimes. So the broadcast booth,
- 26:24Speaker 1: how are you and your ABTV and AM830 cohorts feeling
- 26:28Speaker 1: about your guys' future with the Angels? Is there any
- 26:32Speaker 1: of that pins and needles feelings? Have you guys talked
- 26:35Speaker 1: about the future with anyone over there yet?
- 26:38Speaker 3: Well, first of all, hey, Mark, if you would mind
- 26:40Speaker 3: writing a letter to Stan Kroenke with what you said
- 26:42Speaker 3: about me earlier, that'd be great. I appreciate that. No,
- 26:45Speaker 3: but in all seriousness, you go about your day as
- 26:50Speaker 3: if everything's fine. And obviously in the back of your mind,
- 26:53Speaker 3: you've got to be mindful of changes and what could
- 26:56Speaker 3: come and have that. I found that to be just
- 26:59Speaker 3: a really dangerous exercise. You know, this isn't the first
- 27:02Speaker 3: time I've gone through this, you know, and already put
- 27:04Speaker 3: the team up for sale a few years ago. At
- 27:06Speaker 3: that time, to be honest with you, I was pretty nervous.
- 27:10Speaker 3: I wasn't doing as much play-by-play at the time. I
- 27:14Speaker 3: hadn't quite gotten to Fox yet. So I was a
- 27:18Speaker 3: little concerned about, hey, what's going to happen next for me?
- 27:20Speaker 3: What I learned through that experience is at a certain
- 27:23Speaker 3: point in time, you got to just trust your talent,
- 27:26Speaker 3: trust what you're able to do, trust your work ethic
- 27:29Speaker 3: and the way you go about it as a good
- 27:31Speaker 3: person and try to carry yourself the right way to
- 27:33Speaker 3: represent the organization. So whatever happens, I have confidence that
- 27:39Speaker 3: I'm going to be okay no matter what, and I
- 27:41Speaker 3: want it to be with the Angels. This is where
- 27:43Speaker 3: I grew up. This is home for me. I want
- 27:45Speaker 3: to have the Tim Meade 40-year career with the Angels.
- 27:48Speaker 3: That's what would be my dream is if that happens.
- 27:51Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm also aware of what could
- 27:54Speaker 3: happen in this competitive, high-profile profession, and I accept that.
- 27:59Speaker 3: I want it to work out here. I hope it does,
- 28:02Speaker 3: but you just never know, and that probably is sitting
- 28:05Speaker 3: in the back of everybody's minds, I would assume.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Good answer, though.
- 28:09Speaker 4: That's the same mindset players have.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:11Speaker 4: You know, things change, but you do your best, you represent,
- 28:14Speaker 4: you hustle, you grind, and people notice. And I think
- 28:19Speaker 4: people are noticing how hard, you know, with your work ethic. So,
- 28:22Speaker 4: by the way, who's to say that, you know, Mr.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Kroenke and company don't watch this show? They might see
- 28:27Speaker 4: you on here. No need to tell them. Okay. You
- 28:31Speaker 4: were at the Big A for at least one of
- 28:34Speaker 4: the games this past– weekend or week, uh, for the
- 28:38Speaker 4: top prospects, uh, instructional league, anyone stand out to you?
- 28:41Speaker 4: You see, I think I saw a big Mac in attendance.
- 28:44Speaker 4: I think it's something they're playing.
- 28:46Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, Mason pitched on Saturday night, and he threw
- 28:51Speaker 3: a couple scoreless innings too. So that was pretty cool
- 28:53Speaker 3: to see that. It was funny talking with Reggie Willits
- 28:56Speaker 3: and his son there, Jackson, who's with the organization. I
- 29:00Speaker 3: saw Tim Salmon's nephew Jack was out there, and then
- 29:04Speaker 3: Big Mac's son. So all that was pretty cool to see.
- 29:07Speaker 3: I was really impressed by Jared Grinlinger, who the Angels
- 29:10Speaker 3: took in the first round. I thought he looked– He
- 29:14Speaker 3: looked really good at the same time. It instructs how
- 29:18Speaker 3: much are you really reading into that. I'd say the
- 29:20Speaker 3: player that impressed the most that I didn't really have
- 29:23Speaker 3: much of a beat on, because he's not getting a
- 29:25Speaker 3: ton of recognition outside the organization, but Kendri Maduro is
- 29:30Speaker 3: a shortstop that had just a monster, monster weekend. And
- 29:34Speaker 3: he hits a home run off of Trey Gregory Alford.
- 29:37Speaker 3: And he, I mean, I thought he looked great. I
- 29:40Speaker 3: was really impressed by him. That's just one of those
- 29:42Speaker 3: names that, you know, we know all the big names
- 29:44Speaker 3: at this point. That wasn't one I'd really heard much about.
- 29:47Speaker 2: He was.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Really impressive. Brendner pitched really well. He's got, not only
- 29:52Speaker 3: does he have facial hair now, he's got like the
- 29:54Speaker 3: full long hair thing going on. So he's totally leaning
- 29:57Speaker 3: into his California cool, Mr. Santa Barbara guy. So happy
- 30:03Speaker 3: to see that. Hayden Alvarez, I thought impressed at times.
- 30:06Speaker 3: He had a couple of stolen bases, had a couple
- 30:07Speaker 3: of hits as well. So again, I'll tell you this.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Being at Instructs a year ago, there were three or
- 30:14Speaker 3: four players I was interested in seeing. Being there this year,
- 30:17Speaker 3: there were like 15 guys that I wanted to get
- 30:19Speaker 3: eyes on. And I thought that made a really big difference.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Just the level of talent and not even just the
- 30:24Speaker 3: new additions. Like Jacob Cozart. When you guys get a
- 30:27Speaker 3: chance to talk to Jacob Cozart, the catcher in the
- 30:29Speaker 3: Joe Adele trade. He blew me away talking to him.
- 30:33Speaker 3: And he's really good behind the plate and calls a
- 30:35Speaker 3: really good game. And his bat has played at the
- 30:37Speaker 3: double-A level. Let's see what happens when he gets to
- 30:39Speaker 3: the big leagues when that time comes. But he's an
- 30:42Speaker 3: impressive guy. And I think that when you have somebody
- 30:44Speaker 3: like that that has the natural leadership that is savant-like
- 30:49Speaker 3: when it comes to baseball, it's important to have in
- 30:51Speaker 3: a clubhouse. So I really like seeing that. You guys
- 30:54Speaker 3: also appreciate this. My number one takeaway from Instructs, Some
- 30:59Speaker 3: of the coaches showed angels in the outfield to the
- 31:01Speaker 3: guys in the clubhouse. Not one player had seen it before.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Not one player had seen angels in the outfield.
- 31:08Speaker 4: Zero surprised.
- 31:10Speaker 3: So that made me feel very, very old.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Don't even tell them about Bull Durham.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Well, it must be refreshing, Trent, to see a farm
- 31:20Speaker 1: system with multiple top 100 players after these last few years.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Can you explain to the fans how important it is
- 31:26Speaker 1: for a team looking to get back into contention to
- 31:30Speaker 1: have multiple prospects on that list?
- 31:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that perception is reality in a lot
- 31:38Speaker 3: of ways, too. And for the Angels... A lot of
- 31:41Speaker 3: the names that are getting traction now were here this
- 31:45Speaker 3: spring training and even last year at Instruct. So those
- 31:48Speaker 3: guys have gotten better over the course of the year.
- 31:50Speaker 3: It's not just the new players that have come in.
- 31:51Speaker 3: I think that's an important distinction to keep in mind
- 31:54Speaker 3: as well. But whether those players are used to help
- 31:58Speaker 3: your major league team. they can be used as pieces
- 32:00Speaker 3: to trade. It's just the, the whole picture of it
- 32:04Speaker 3: is being able to use some of these guys to
- 32:06Speaker 3: make your major league roster better, whether that's those guys
- 32:09Speaker 3: directly or to be used for other pieces. And I,
- 32:13Speaker 3: you know, we see what's gone on in Philadelphia and,
- 32:16Speaker 3: you know, there's been Dombrowski is a reputation of, Hey,
- 32:21Speaker 3: he doesn't value minor leaguers. No, he values minor leaguers
- 32:24Speaker 3: a lot and he gets them to have these great reputations.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Then he's able to flip them for major league starters.
- 32:30Speaker 3: There is, there's a lot of value to that. So
- 32:32Speaker 3: I think that the perception of the angels farm system
- 32:36Speaker 3: catching up to the reality, I think is a really
- 32:39Speaker 3: important thing for angels baseball. It's a lot of the
- 32:41Speaker 3: same players that are here, but I do think that
- 32:43Speaker 3: the industry is starting to represent, uh, try to respect
- 32:47Speaker 3: those players a little bit more now.
- 32:49Speaker 4: I would agree with you. Everyone likes to talk about
- 32:52Speaker 4: a window, what a period of time when a team
- 32:58Speaker 4: is going to be in contention, definitive dates. I think
- 33:02Speaker 4: our best guess for the Halos, it's probably going to
- 33:05Speaker 4: be two to three years. By all accounts, some of
- 33:08Speaker 4: these younger prospects will mature and hopefully come up somewhat
- 33:12Speaker 4: at the same time. It could be sooner than that,
- 33:14Speaker 4: but Let's say it's three years. I guess I kind
- 33:17Speaker 4: of answered on my side, but do you have an
- 33:20Speaker 4: opinion on that when the window of contention could be
- 33:24Speaker 4: for this team?
- 33:26Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like that you used the word contention
- 33:28Speaker 3: because I think there's a big difference between competing and contending.
- 33:32Speaker 3: I think that the Angels, like look what the White
- 33:34Speaker 3: Sox did. Like they turned around very, very fast. And
- 33:37Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's the expectation for the Angels, but
- 33:40Speaker 3: I do think that this team can compete in 2027,
- 33:44Speaker 3: but that's not contending for a championship and getting those players.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the talent that's in
- 33:49Speaker 3: the organization now is on the younger side. The pitching
- 33:52Speaker 3: is a little further ahead of the position players, but
- 33:55Speaker 3: I think the position players may be a little bit
- 33:57Speaker 3: better than what a lot of folks have realized. So
- 33:59Speaker 3: let's just say we see some of these pitchers come up.
- 34:01Speaker 3: I think the rotation is already pretty good. And with
- 34:04Speaker 3: what Wolverine was able to do this year, that's something
- 34:07Speaker 3: to be excited about. But you do have a lot
- 34:10Speaker 3: of areas that need to be addressed, whether it be
- 34:12Speaker 3: internally or externally. And to think that you're going to
- 34:15Speaker 3: go from 100 loss season to being a playoff team
- 34:18Speaker 3: the next year, it's not impossible, but you wouldn't call
- 34:21Speaker 3: that likely. There's a lot of things that have to
- 34:23Speaker 3: happen internally. to get to that. But to say that
- 34:27Speaker 3: by 28, 29, you couldn't see this team in a
- 34:29Speaker 3: position to do that, totally is possible. But I think
- 34:33Speaker 3: from the people that I have talked to, what I
- 34:36Speaker 3: understand about the vision for Angels baseball is the vision
- 34:39Speaker 3: is not, let's get to the playoffs as soon as possible,
- 34:43Speaker 3: and then that's it. It's how do we build an
- 34:45Speaker 3: organization that when the time comes to open up that
- 34:49Speaker 3: championship window, it's a window that lasts for a while.
- 34:52Speaker 3: How do we get Angels baseball in position where you're
- 34:54Speaker 3: opening up a 10-year window instead of maybe a two-year window?
- 34:58Speaker 3: And that could take a little bit longer to do,
- 35:01Speaker 3: but that's why there's been such an influx of development
- 35:06Speaker 3: and bringing in players and having a really good draft
- 35:08Speaker 3: is so important and dealing some key pieces at the deadline,
- 35:11Speaker 3: but also knowing that things can happen fast, especially in
- 35:15Speaker 3: a bad division. The AL West is a bad division.
- 35:17Speaker 3: The American League in general was down this year, so
- 35:20Speaker 3: I think things can be a little accelerated. based on
- 35:23Speaker 3: the level of competition too.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Does John Moselock have his fingerprints all over this new vision,
- 35:28Speaker 1: would you say?
- 35:28Speaker 2: Is that a lot he's doing?
- 35:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's a part of it. I mean,
- 35:32Speaker 3: a lot of it, honestly, starts with Molly Jolly. And
- 35:35Speaker 3: when she became the president of the organization, I think
- 35:37Speaker 3: that's where a lot of this really got going. So yeah,
- 35:40Speaker 3: I mean, Mo's vision in terms of the development has
- 35:44Speaker 3: been really big. That's what was kind of his staple
- 35:46Speaker 3: in St. Louis, and that's what he's wanted to bring.
- 35:48Speaker 3: an assignment with the Angels. But I really think that
- 35:51Speaker 3: a lot of this got started even before Mo got here.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I think with Molly, a lot of this began.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Well, Trent, you called a lot of Reid Detmers better
- 36:00Speaker 1: starts this year. From your seat, does he already look
- 36:03Speaker 1: like a guy who can lead a rotation, or is
- 36:06Speaker 1: there still one more step he might need to take?
- 36:09Speaker 3: Well, I think the one step would be to get
- 36:11Speaker 3: a little run support. That would be nice. He didn't
- 36:14Speaker 3: have hardly any of that this year. I think that
- 36:17Speaker 3: I think Detmers has gotten to that point where he
- 36:19Speaker 3: can lead a staff because he has some battle scars.
- 36:23Speaker 3: As somebody that's been sent down, as somebody that got
- 36:26Speaker 3: moved to the rotation or moved to the bullpen, had
- 36:28Speaker 3: to get himself out of the bullpen and into the rotation,
- 36:31Speaker 3: to have to go through everything that Reed Detmers has
- 36:33Speaker 3: gone through, I think that that is the sign of
- 36:36Speaker 3: somebody that has real staying power. And that's why if
- 36:39Speaker 3: I had to vote for Pitcher of the Year, I
- 36:40Speaker 3: would have voted for Reed Detmers over Walbert Urania, even
- 36:43Speaker 3: though Urania had pretty good numbers overall. We've seen a
- 36:46Speaker 3: lot of guys have really good seasons in their low 20s.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Reid Detmers is one of them. How do you make
- 36:51Speaker 3: that into a career? I think with what Reid Detmers
- 36:54Speaker 3: has done and what he's been through, I think he's
- 36:56Speaker 3: on the other side of some of that garbage. and
- 36:59Speaker 3: can get into just taking off and having a five-
- 37:03Speaker 3: or six-year run of being one of the better pitchers
- 37:05Speaker 3: in baseball. I think that he has the makings of
- 37:07Speaker 3: being that. Because he has that toughness, he's a very
- 37:10Speaker 3: cerebral pitcher. And he's also not afraid to speak his mind.
- 37:13Speaker 3: And a lot's been made of Reid Detmers wanting to
- 37:16Speaker 3: get more information. And when he wanted to get more information,
- 37:20Speaker 3: it led to a change in the pitching coach situation.
- 37:23Speaker 3: And we see how that played out in the second
- 37:25Speaker 3: half of the season.
- 37:27Speaker 4: I saved the toughest one for last. You're not going
- 37:31Speaker 4: to love it, but I got to ask it. Can
- 37:33Speaker 4: you give me the pronunciation on the first baseman's last name?
- 37:39Speaker 3: Nolan Shanawell?
- 37:41Speaker 4: There it is, Mike.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Shanawell. I thought it was wow, Shanawell.
- 37:46Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's done well. It depends on.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Where the ball goes.
- 37:49Speaker 3: How about that?
- 37:50Speaker 4: It's turned out so many different ways. I figured I'd
- 37:54Speaker 4: get that in there. You've answered what my real question was.
- 37:58Speaker 4: But I think it would be great to see the
- 38:01Speaker 4: group of guys that the Angels are going to have.
- 38:04Speaker 4: We'll see what the 2027 season even looks like. Our
- 38:07Speaker 4: most recent episode before this was on the CBA episode.
- 38:11Speaker 4: Rather morose topic, but we needed to cover it. Hopefully
- 38:15Speaker 4: they get it. They get it ironed out. Be great
- 38:18Speaker 4: to see some guys take a big step forward. Be
- 38:20Speaker 4: great to see a guy like Urania repeat what he did.
- 38:22Speaker 4: It'll be tough, but he's got the stuff to do it.
- 38:26Speaker 4: I guess if you could maybe give me your take
- 38:30Speaker 4: on maybe the top four spots in the order, a
- 38:32Speaker 4: couple of configurations or one for the fans out there
- 38:35Speaker 4: are constantly wanting to tinker with who could lead off.
- 38:38Speaker 4: Who could hit second, third? I personally think Neto is
- 38:41Speaker 4: a better fourth hitter than he is a first, but
- 38:44Speaker 4: Nolan Shonowal could be a table setter. Wade Meckler could
- 38:46Speaker 4: be up there. Mike Trout's on bases. You can't ignore that.
- 38:49Speaker 4: Do you have any ideas that might make sense or
- 38:53Speaker 4: might be fun for the fans to chew on?
- 38:55Speaker 3: Oh, this is good. I get to play manager for
- 38:57Speaker 3: a moment. I think Mike's the leadoff guy. What does
- 39:01Speaker 3: he do best? He's getting on base at an extraordinarily
- 39:04Speaker 3: high clip. Didn't have a great year batting with runners
- 39:07Speaker 3: in scoring position. Didn't drive in all that many runs. Comparatively,
- 39:11Speaker 3: for what you expect, based on what he's done in
- 39:14Speaker 3: his career. That's the one thing that's been able to translate.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Even as Mike has gotten older, he's done a great
- 39:20Speaker 3: job of getting on base. That's what you want in
- 39:22Speaker 3: your leadoff guy. Plus, I think even the reputation of
- 39:25Speaker 3: Mike Trout is gonna put a little fear into a
- 39:27Speaker 3: starting pitcher when this when the first at bat of
- 39:30Speaker 3: the game i think that that means something i would
- 39:32Speaker 3: almost i would go trout one i'd bet netto two
- 39:35Speaker 3: maybe shauna wells my three oh boy i don't know
- 39:40Speaker 3: i will have to we'll have to see who's on.
- 39:41Speaker 2: The roster where we go where.
- 39:43Speaker 4: We go for jazz chisholm.
- 39:49Speaker 2: You know what?
- 39:50Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I forgot to mention his name
- 39:52Speaker 3: when you asked me about the prospects. There's another Villa
- 39:54Speaker 3: Park guy that's incredible. Gavin Grahovic has the most power
- 39:58Speaker 3: a Spartan has had since Mark Trumbo.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Wow. Light tower power. Wow. From Villa Park. What are
- 40:04Speaker 2: they drinking over there? Yeah.
- 40:07Speaker 4: I'm not telling you. You live near a rival high school.
- 40:10Speaker 1: I'm not going to name it.
- 40:14Speaker 4: But we keep those things to ourselves. Trent, thank you
- 40:16Speaker 4: very much.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Trent, thanks for joining us. We're going to close the
- 40:20Speaker 1: show with that. Trent Rush, Angels TV and radio broadcaster.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Really glad you could join us. Mark Trumbo, as always. Listeners,
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