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“Laughter Medicine” · UNFIT FOR RADIO with JAYKERS

• 0:32
  SPEAKER_04: Do you remember our uh friend?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_04: The funny guy, just guy with hair, from episode 27.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, he was a real fun guy.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's not a mushroom.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: He was so hilarious, my funny bone is still jiggling.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but yeah, anyways, uh 20 episodes later he decided to join us again for another hilarious episode.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_04: He's got jokes, stories, big updates, and all Welcome to Laughter Medicine.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: We hope you get the right dose you need.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, with uh zero side effects.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_04: Let's do it.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Unfit for Radio with Jakers.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_04: I am him, and thank you for joining us today.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_04: We got another good one planned for you, but first let's point out the elephant of the room, the senior star of UFR Ray.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you for that elaborate introduction, but I'm not that heavy, I lost weight.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I am Ray, probably the oldest guy our audience knows.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: And somehow they listen to me more than their own grandpa.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: Hey.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: But as always, I am thrilled to be here.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: What are we doing again?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: We're going on a trip in our favorite rocket ship.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_04: Let's go.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_04: If you don't know Josiah, he's been uh he was here the last time on Left Track, episode 27.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: It was absolutely hilarious.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_04: And I can't wait to hear what he brought with him this time.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_04: Josiah, welcome back to UFR.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_04: We love you, and you've been missed.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_04: You got this and uh take it away.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, first off, thank you guys both so very much for having me back.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I'm I'm guessing things went well last time and that I didn't screw things up too much.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: If you're like, you know what, we should have him come back again.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_04: You almost got us kicked off.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_04: So we're we're we're trying to up the bar.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta toe the line a little bit.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, gotcha.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so it's been a handful of months since I've been here, handful of episodes, and life has continued.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: Life's happened.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: My wife and I were still together because I know I mentioned last time.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Mentioned last time that like I'm a I'm a hazard essentially to our safety and well-being, but we're still still going strong.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: You knock her out when you're sleeping and rolling.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thankfully, no, we're still good there.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: We're still good.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then yeah, we we had a talking point last time where I'd mentioned, you know, as a substitute teacher, I'd worked with children who were a lot of times three to five years old.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: That was the classroom I worked in a lot.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I found them, while humorous and at times adorable, they're very gross because they have so many places for so many gross things to come from.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: And uh you would ask, you're like, oh, so then you guys can have kids at some point.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_04: I remember asking that.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we were actually pregnant at the time.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: We just hadn't been telling people.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, huh, maybe.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and just kind of playing it off.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: So uh sorry, I didn't mean to hit a lot of it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's no, it's fun.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was perfect.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because it was like, yeah, how can I how can I react under pressure?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, recently our son was born, and I've been trying to look at life a little bit.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like as as the pregnancy was coming to a conclusion, I started to look at things and I started to see things a little differently.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so for example, we had the 4th of July, yeah, and um this year was different because I had a very pregnant wife.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, our son was due in August, and so 4th of July, like she's very ready to have a baby soon.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_04: She's ready.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, we're doing fireworks and stuff, and I'm like, this is great.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: But like at the whole time, I'm also like bodyguard trying to secret service, make sure she doesn't get shot by a rocket or something.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm watching people, and I don't, I I kind of wanted to open this up for you guys because I need to know where you where you land.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do fireworks for Fourth of July?
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: And if so, what do you typically do?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh for me, yeah, I I I used to do the big huge ones that would like go in the air, the illegal ones.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta go out of state to grab some and come back.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_04: And I used to do all that, but you're right.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_04: As I've gotten um infants and and toddlers and uh other members of the village, I uh I noticed that we do things a little bit more safer.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_04: Either we'll we'll watch it like when they were first born, we we we really played it safe.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_04: We we watched it on TV.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_04: Or we watched it like from the backyard, not backyard, but like, you know, inside the patio area looking out and stuff like that.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_04: But now that my son's like three and stuff like that, I think that we're gonna try to explore more and obviously go out more.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, nowadays you don't it's not necessarily the fireworks nowadays, sometimes it can be somebody in the audience that just, you know, is having a bad day and you just don't know because you know, big crowds, things happen.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_04: But uh yeah, so that's our plan is is to really do that.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes we'll go over to my parents' house um and and they shoot them off, or or their whole neighborhood, you know, goes wild and stuff like that.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_04: What about you, Ray?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_02: When I was a child, um fireworks were illegal in Arizona of all sorts.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: You couldn't have anything.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like sparklers were couldn't even have sparklers.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: Or so when you just had to light a stick on fire and be like Yeah, something like that.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_03: A flare gun.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: So um we would uh every other year we would take our trip back to Indiana to see the grandparents, and sparklers were legal there.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: So we'd always make sure that we had those and we'd, you know, wave them around, and that was fun because that's the only time we ever got to use them.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: But then uh as I got older, uh we went we would go places in town where you could park and watch the fireworks.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: But now that I'm old, um I don't even do that.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_02: I just watch the ones on TV, and um it's just easier than trying to get out at night with all the traffic and everything.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's like the boat we're in now.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: But prior to this, prior to our son being born, like it was still me just observing people differently.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I realized that there are people who have done fireworks before and people who like are brand new to it.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: And within those two categories, there the there are two other categories that are the same either way.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: Some people are like, we should do sparklers or a little smoke bomb, this is fun.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then you've got people who are like, We need to blow something up, like we need to be destructive.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: We need to destroy things.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: I have that kind in my neighborhood.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: I know, yeah.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: And so this year, like I'm watching people, and there was someone who came, we went to this little group gathering, and one person was like, Oh, I've I've got some fireworks, and I'm looking, and it's like, you know, nuclear warhead.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Whose idea is it to bring this?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: And and this person, I could tell, because if you've done fireworks before, then you're like, Oh, I know what I'm getting into, so that's what I want to do.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: This person, she was like, I have not done enough.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so she's like, Well, what's the worst that'll happen?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I watched this person stick a rocket inside of another firework that had already been lit that had gone off, and they're like, This will be the base as this rocket shoots off.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it it ignited at first and then tipped sideways and of course launched toward the house and blew up.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, see, that's that's just what you have like the the different personalities you have are like, what's the worst could happen?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: And like that's whenever you have someone who doesn't see Alton fingers and toes on July 5th.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like they maximize their entertainment.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I don't okay.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm also like you guys know from the previous episode I was on, I'm from a rural area, middle of nowhere, Illinois.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: Same deal with fireworks, right?
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_04: You see, so so from the people that haven't listened, what what what part of Illinois was that?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it's southern Illinois, it's a village called Willisville, and I've described it this way before.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's if you get to the middle of nowhere and tell you left, you found the village, but it's like nothing.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: 500 people, um, one part-time police officer.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if the police officer is still there.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've not been to Willisville in a while.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it was the same deal.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Illinois is very much like, nope, no one in the fireworks, but we lived right by Missouri.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: And my grandpa would put up a sign for the firework place in Missouri, and so you get instant credit.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then the guy liked my grandpa, and so we would leave there with$300 worth of explosives.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Easily$300, maybe more.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: And like as we're getting ready to leave, he's throwing stuff in our baskets, he's like, You're not paying for this, I'm just giving it to you.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: Just have fun.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, that's that my grandpa was in that kind of same category of like, you know, well, we'll see what happens.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just blow some stuff up.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: But I have family uh who they would they would get like a lockbox and they would put all their fireworks in that, light it, lock it, and run away.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: All at the same time, and they would just they would watch the box to see is the box gonna blow up or not.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: And as a kid, yeah, that was the thing.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like with the kid mentality, you're like, that's so cool.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Whenever you are growing up and you have a kid, you're like, shrapnel is the thing, and I don't want the project.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: They don't make safety glasses that small for them.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Coming to an Amazon near you.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Safety goggles for babies watching fireworks.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I was just like, okay, so I'm I'm viewing people differently, I'm seeing people differently, and it's it's really just like I said, I'm trying to open my eyes a little more, be a little more observant with the craziness that is our world.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um so then fast forward a couple weeks, and my wife uh and I have our son, and we try to Congratulations, by the way.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, thank you.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: I did so much work.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um mostly to her.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations for sure.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, so let's see here.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was we got to the hospital, I think, um, probably around 8 30 or 9.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: It honestly might have been before that, but we got in, and then he was that was in the morning.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he was born at 101 the following morning.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it was a good good venture, good amount of time.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um you stayed up all night.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was a lot.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, I can only say that so much because I didn't have to push a human being out of my body, but it's like I I'm not gonna say, yeah, like I I do that every night.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: I go to the hospital and stay up until one in the morning.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but no, she was a trooper.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, shout out to her because she did fantastic.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, whenever our son was born, he was 20.47 inches long.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Whoa.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: And 7.58 pounds.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so he's a big guy.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: He was long.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I was we were concerned throughout the entire pregnancy because whenever I was born, I was half an inch short of being two feet long.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm six three now.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: My wife is a little over a foot smaller than me.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so the question was, can she sustain a two-foot long human being for that period of time?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: And thankfully she didn't have to go that quite that big, but it's still it was a lot.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it was it was a a very interesting experience.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I've never we've never done this before as our firstborn.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, her parents were able to come and be there at the hospital.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, like it honestly could it have gone better?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: There's always something that could have gone better, but like really, really good experience overall.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was very, very grateful.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: But with that, um, both of our families really tried to chip in.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And her parents, they stayed at our place, we stayed at the hospital.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when you stay at the hospital after a child birth, it's not like it's the mother gets the bed because of course she did all the work.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: And they give and they give the dad a glorified footstool is what it feels like.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_04: I had that footstool for a week.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we had we I had the little chair and it was, you know, one in the morning.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, by the time we get to that room, it's like three in the morning, and I'm just beat.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm barely keeping my eyes open.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: I brought a jug of espresso and I drank, I don't know, probably the the um cumulative total of like six to eight shots of espresso.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: You're big into coffee, I forgot.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: I am, and it had no effect.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I was exhausted, and we get to the room and they said that like that chair folds out, and there's like a sheet and a pillow.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: I looked at the nurse and I just dead in the face, I said, I don't care.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I just hopped on and just kind of hugged the this chair and passed out for a while.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, the the sleep was not good.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: So the the sleep was very weird.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: I was like hallucinating throughout our visit because I was sleep deprived, wasn't sure what was real and what was not.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so I I need to say that very clearly because her parents visited, and so she her parents are from Mexico.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um they speak English, but they're fluent in Spanish.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so they came uh the day after our son was born and they were visiting again, um and they're talking to her, checking in on her.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like kind of coming to and they look at our son and they lean over and they start speaking to him, of course, in Spanish.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my god, mi amor.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sitting there, and for a good 30 seconds, I'm like, oh, you guys, he can't understand you.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't speak Spanish.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I just sat there feeling like pity for them, and I'm like, oh, they just don't even think about the fact he can't speak Spanish poor people.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it was, like I said, 30 to 45 seconds later, I'm like, wait, he can't understand them because he doesn't speak anything.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't understand anything.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: And oh my gosh, yeah, like just things like that where so did you start feeling sorry for yourself after that?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I felt it was one of those where I was like, I'm glad I didn't say that thing out loud.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because I was like, I'll be kind and like, you know, show them like, oh, I care for you guys.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry for you that he can't understand you.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, not our problem.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: He can't understand anyone.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: So that that was whenever I realized I was like, I don't think I've slept enough.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think I do need to look into reclining this chair because this is not this is not good.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, like I said, both our families pitched in so much.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was very, very grateful.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Thankfully, we didn't have really any crazy horror stories from the hospital.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of people have ups and downs.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I know that yeah, I think you've had some fair share of unpleasantries to say the least.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, my when my daughter was born, um she so when my daughter was first born, we uh we found out that my wife had COVID.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_04: So my wife immediately had to be separated and didn't get that bonding time and stuff that she got with our previous children.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: And so um so I was trying to, you know, do both and support mom and support uh our our daughter.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_04: So they sent her to the nursery for like six hours.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_04: And then it seemed like um her breathing wasn't uh her oxygen levels weren't where they were supposed to be.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_04: So they had to take her over to um the NICU.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_04: She stayed in the NICU for what seemed like a week.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_04: And um it uh Stephanie had to go through her, you know, precautions being in the hospital.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_04: So I and she wanted to breastfeed too.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_04: So I was running.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_04: It was funny, like every two hours or every hour or whatever, I was running upstairs to Stephanie getting the breast milk, running downstairs to the NICU to give it to Eleanora.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_04: And I that was my mission, like every two hours.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: And um, yeah, I didn't I didn't get much sleep.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_04: I slept on a lot of futons and croutons or whatever you call those things.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_04: But uh no, she was in the NICU for uh uh about a week.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_04: Um then they then they started putting this feeding tube in her because they said that her weight wasn't where they wanted it to be.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_04: And uh my daughter, she's a big fighter.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_04: So as they're putting the feeding tube in, and even afterwards, like several days after, she keeps yanking the feeding tube out.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, so she's not making it any easier.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_04: She's she's like, I don't want this thing, give me the real stuff.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, but anyways, uh a week later, God, you know, God provided time for us to go home all together, and it was beautiful, but yeah, we've we've had our ups and downs in hospitals.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_04: That was honestly, even with all those experiences, was still a better experience than with our son at a previous hospital.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_04: With our son at a previous hospital, we had less medical problems per se, yeah, and more like administrative problems.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh, those aren't good because you don't want to be in the wrong room or yeah, and it wasn't like we were looking for trouble because we're trying to have a child and everything, but it just seemed like for one, they were playing like room hop with us.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: Like every two hours, they're like, Okay, you guys gotta ro move into this room, okay.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_04: You guys gotta move into this hallway, okay.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_04: You guys gotta move.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_04: It was like it was ridiculous.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_04: Like, we're trying to have a baby here.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: You guys are creating a stressful environment at this point.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_04: Like, leave us in one room for a little bit.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Playing musical chairs with hospital rooms, yeah.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_04: So it was and it was a nice part of town.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_04: It's one of those places where you don't expect those things, but um, yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_04: So our our son, even though we had less medical problems, we had more administrative problems.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_04: And either way, I mean, we're we still end up being blessed.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_04: Our our children are home, they're they're wonderful, they're healthy, they're they're amazing, and they're true gifts from God.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think it's I mean, even now, like it's the the important thing is you've had the negative experience, be able to say there is there's some humor in it, there's some fun things, and like that's what you can then use later on telling those stories, and you know, you able to share those memories with them in a way where it's not, oh, this was terrible, but like let's let's try to find what what we can um find the joy in, right?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely here's what could have gone worse, here's what was hilariously stupid, and here's how we all made it out alive.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's because there are some days when you have kids where you feel like it's just can we survive the day?
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: Especially going to Costco or the airport or I mean I think I do think that there is a there is an industry out there where you could definitely sell some death metal music with kids screaming because they've got lungs like no other.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it is it is impressive, uh, but at the same time, it's scary how much they are able to scream and seem to be just totally fine with it.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um our son, he he goes full tomato, like he turns so red as he looks like he's trying to go for like the hardest rock concert ever.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then whenever he gets really upset, of course, then the head bobbing as well.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I think you're having a little mini concert.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: I can't tell if you're actually upset or if you're just trying to be like, that's funny.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's one or the other.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_04: I I got a little something for that.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_04: It seems like um, it seems like so.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_04: Prior to being a father, it seems like when I was, you know, at the airport, at stores, in church, wherever you usually encounter doctor's office, wherever you usually encounter a screaming baby, it didn't seem like it bothered me as much.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh, that's normal.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's a screaming baby.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that's normal, Jake, blah, blah, blah.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Just from in what world are you like?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Screaming babies is just that's just fine.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like normal.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's not like I was in a tortoise where I had to be in a room like for four hours, gotcha.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_04: So that's what I'm saying.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_04: So anytime I've experienced, even with nieces and nephews, it wasn't like a a horrible thing.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh, that's what babies do, yada, yada, yada.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_04: But it seems like when I've become the father and you hear your own blood screaming, I don't think that is more annoying.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying that, I just think that it triggers other emotions.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_04: And now all of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh, my baby's crying.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_04: How can I make my baby stop crying?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_04: And that's in your head instead of actually the baby itself just, you know, being a baby and crying.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: And so I've noticed that the emotional tie to now the baby crying is affects me a lot more being a father.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't know if you all experienced that yet, but I mean, here's warning.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I've been around screaming children.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not gonna say that I was quote unquote used to it, but like I've been around it enough to know that's loud and that's a lot.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, it's it is definitely different whenever it's my son because I feel like I'm supposed to help with it.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: If it's someone else's kid, you're like, well, that's just tough.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Man, you can always walk away.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like a lot of times you do.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, man, but looks tough.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it does.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: You can't walk away through your screen.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, legally, it's the problem if you do.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: So you've gotta you've gotta step in and you gotta be a little more helpful.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I've been trying to do that.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: The my wife and I, we've been trying to like break up tasks and see how we can be helpful without it, you know, being like, well, that's clearly just your job, right?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't want it, I I don't want that to be.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: You don't want it to be where it's like, well, obviously this is your field, like you're supposed to do this.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's sexist.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: So there's some things she can do that I cannot do, but it's like obviously, yeah, definitely, yeah.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Aside from that, I'm like, how can I help?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so a couple different things.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, so if whenever he's waking up through the night, because of course we're still getting up through the night, um, and he's usually because he's just hungry.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, so whenever he wakes up and you're gonna feed him, like go for that.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: If she's able to have like a supply that I can feed him, I'm like, that would be great as well.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: So let's try this.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I'm gonna try and get up early, start my day early, be productive, and then go to work.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: How about this?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: How about you take him from the time we go to sleep until 4 a.m.?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then after 4 a.m., I'll take him until I go to work.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, okay, like let's just give it a try, let's go for it.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Sweet.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: So you know, his he doesn't really care.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: His wake-up times can be at midnight, it can be at five, it can be at one, it can be at at six.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: One night I we both hear him like kind of screaming and crying and waking up.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so she looks over, she's like, I think he's gonna like be hungry, needs to be changed, and like the full package.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I looked at her, you know, my eyes are still foggy and opening up, and like, so what time is it?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, It's three thirty.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I look at this woman who has who has, you know, poured her blood, sweat, and tears into the city.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna hold her to the deal.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've watched her do so much and And you know, really sacrificed so very much to bring this child in.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, deal's a deal.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: 330, it's yours.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my, that was naughty.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, here's the thing.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: I've got to teach him early on that your word is is your bond.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: And if you make a deal, it's a deal.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's crazy.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so then after after that, well, here's the thing.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: It takes a while for him to feed.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: So like after he feeds, then it's like, well, if he's gonna change, like then that would have put him in the four o'clock zone.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, actually, if you if it does, and let if you need help, let me know.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: But I at first I was like, yeah, I mean, this is what we agreed to.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_04: So do you guys co-sleep or do you guys use the crib?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_04: Does the baby sleep in the bed with you, or does the baby sleep in the crib?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, so let me get started on that.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: Did I jump ahead to something?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, but that's that's a whole thing.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's a whole thing I've got to talk about.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Great.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So no, it's just we opened up a can of worms from the experience.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: So everything you get, everything that you get um has like all of the warning labels because of all the possible things that could go wrong, and no company wants to be sued.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so, like, there are suffocation labels, there are like choking hazards labels.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is like, it's I don't know, you almost need like a first aid class just to read all of the stuff there.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're trying to scare you to death.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: So then on top of that, we had gone to the hospital for the stuff beforehand of like, here's what to do, here's what to expect, yada, yada.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, with that, it's very much like here's what you can do to help your baby.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: If you do anything else, the baby will die.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to do this, and then this is that's great.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: But if you do this, they will have to lose a foot.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like every single thing was very specific.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, if you don't do this, you run the risk of mutilating your child.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you you hear like, well, what is it?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, if you hold them upright for too long, they're just gonna die.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who who this is targeted towards, but okay, I'm you know, I'm going into this now already, like overly paranoid.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Then they give you the child after the child's born.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, like give it back.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: You ace the pet you ace the test.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: But like they, you know, they're like, here, here's your son.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: You wanna hold him?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you guys just told me for three days all the ways I'm gonna screw this up, all the ways that I'm gonna like break him.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: And you're like, I don't feel like I've read it.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like, give me some training wheels first.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, give me, give me like a doll to like prep right before, and then give me the all the all clear.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, then the whole time I'm holding him, but I'm like, okay.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was burping him at the hospital, and the nurse, she was really sweet, she came over, trying to be really positive.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Hey dad, just want to say you're doing such a great job.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you can definitely burp him harder because like it's not gonna work if you're just tapping him like that.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: And so I like find myself feeling like I'm slapping my son on the back.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: I walk down the hallway and I hear these, yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what are they doing?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're slapping the baby to Yeah, and they're like, That's like, there you go, like that's it.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: So then at the end of the hospital stay, we're getting ready to leave.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Once again, maximum sleep deprivation.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've just been getting ready to like pack everything up.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting ready to take everything to the car, come back for my wife, my son, all this stuff.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, all right, we got to sit you down before we discharge you.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, here's all the stuff you need to know, here's all your paperwork, and then here's everything to like take care of mom.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: That is like five to seven minutes max, where they're like, here's your paperwork, here's mom, here's that.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Then the next five to ten is like, okay, now here's the really not fun stuff.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: Here are all the things you can, should, and cannot ever do with your baby.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then, like, once again, giving you this whole list of things, and you know it's super important because this is the time that like the nurse who's super positive and like, hey guys, how's it going?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Mom and dad, whoo! Uh-huh.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Now listen very carefully.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my gosh, gosh, changed.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: And like she's like staring, like, make a lot of eye contact, like, oh my, like, what's going on?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: And they give you this information.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: I could tell you maybe five percent of it because of like they wait until you're the sleep deprived, they wait until the very end.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: Not only that, but they have it memorized, so they like wrap it out like I'm like, here's the other thing is you tell me this stuff after we've been with him for a day.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Who's to say I didn't do any of that in this time?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like the process could have been smoothed out a little bit.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: So all that being said, that was that was with what you were saying, where it's like all the things that you could mess up, or all the ways that it's like, oh, do you do this with the the uh you said what was it like when they sit in the bed?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: Co-sleeping or sleeping in the crib or whatnot.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he's got a little like bassinet thing that he sleeps in.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's on wheels, so it's great.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: But he, yeah, they were like, Whatever you do, don't sleep in the same bed as your child because like the blanket go over their face.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: You could roll over them like this, this, this, every single thing.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so like I was afraid even let him like touch the mattress.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't know what's gonna happen if you do.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then yeah, like after a couple days, he like wouldn't sleep very well unless he was like sleeping on my chest.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so then he's on my chest and like I'm in the bed.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, like we're just kind of easing into it.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: So no, I we don't do like full-time like sleeping like that.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: There are times where we'll lay him down on the bed and let him sleep, but it's not like we're gonna all sleep in the bed together.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Also, given my violent sleeping past, I don't want to like deck him.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that changes though, that softens as as you become more of a father.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: What the violent sleeping?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Are you speaking from experience?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: Because me, me and my wife, we we uh we didn't attack the baby, but I mean I like this like legal disclaimer at first.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for all legal intents and purposes.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: James did not attack his child in that.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: We've had some we've had some times where okay, so my wife breastfeeds.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_04: So for one, it's just easier to breastfeed in the bed with mom and everything.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's just naturally easier that way.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_04: For two, I was talking to uh, I go to physical therapy, so I was talking to my physical therapist the other day, and she's um pregnant with her second, but she was talking about her first child that you know they do that.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_04: They, you know, they were raised in a culture where they don't sleep with the child, the the baby sleeps in the bed, and we're talking about our differences because you know, I sleep in the bed with our babies, she doesn't sleep in the bed with their babies, and um she was describing like you know, I, you know, other than it's supposed to not, you know, you're not supposed to do it.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_04: It just I wish that we could do it because for one, I would love to cuddle my son, and we never get a cuddle, even during nap times, you know, we we just we don't sleep together and he he likes to sleep by himself now and and stuff like that.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_04: For two, it was always difficult growing up, or not not growing up, but trying to, you know, r raise him and until he was taller because anytime he had a problem, m me or my husband, you know, she's speaking, um, she's she's saying that they always had to go into the nursery and now they're standing over the crib and now they're losing all this sleep and this and that because they're you know they're having to be awake in the bedroom to run over to the nursery and all this stuff when they could just be right there in the same bedroom with them.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_04: And um, so she's was saying that even though you're not supposed to, they say she kind of envies me and my wife because she's like, you guys probably get so much more quality sleep.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, when the baby wakes up, you you put it back to sleep, you're right there if the baby, you're just right there.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, yeah, it's a different, it's different, but at some point we're gonna have to break that, you know.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm sure it's gonna be hard, you know, to to separate them.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, the obvious question is, well, then how does the how does the marriage stay alive and you guys still have fun?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_04: There's times.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, the there the the kids do nap times, the kids go to grandparents' house.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_04: There is times for parents to have fun without the kids in the bedroom.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean, to answer the the leading question that everybody, you know, had on their mind.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't have that question on my mind.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, you are really assuming a lot.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: I won't affirm or deny what questions were being wondered.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: But you were like, you guys are all wondering.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying you guys, it I'm sure our listeners are have have some have some minds that's got there.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: But after what 40 some episodes are like, you know what we need to do?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just really curious.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: How does the marriage stay fun in a lot?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it stays fun.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta get it in when you fit it in.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh can I add something here?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Please, please.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: That was the weirdest model.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I need someone to talk.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: That was different.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um now it's uh I don't know if the listeners know, but I'm I'm not a parent.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: And um apparently.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Apparently, yes.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: But cats matter.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: You got like 18.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: I know we got a lot of cats, but I'm the oldest of six, so I helped raise a bunch of kids.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: I I bottle fed and I heated bottles on the stove and I changed diapers and I what's the age difference when you say like oldest of six?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: What was the age between you and the youngest?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: The youngest is 10.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean, we're 10 years younger.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, ten years younger than me.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I was like, it's currently ten?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: No, there's ten years I'm sorry.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: There was ten years difference.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: So that changes how I was picturing that.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: So we're basically yeah.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: Now um because of the the birthdays and everything, between July 3rd and August 1st, um, everybody is two years apart, even or odd depending on the year.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: So uh that's how I remember how old everybody is.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, um so I I've had practice doing that, but um I think uh from what I remember, things were not like you're describing.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you could leave the baby in the bed or you could leave the b go off and leave maybe you wouldn't leave the house, but you could leave the baby in its room and you wouldn't even have to be there.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: And here, here, kid, you take care of the baby, you know.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: And that's how that's how you did it.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't it wasn't like like parenting today, and all those rules and regulations and warnings.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: And no, it we I don't remember any of that happening.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: See, that's the thing.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: I like now that we are parents, of course, everything we see on social media and everything, all the things that we see now are parent-related.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like the old things that they used to do with kids, and it was uh car seats used to have an option where it was like a car seat that hung out the window.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: So it was like that with kids could get fresh air.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, that's just insanity.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they used to have car seats for like the sides of the motorcycles and stuff too.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, what was it?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: There was one that was like they used to put it was essentially like a cage that would hang out the window, kind of like an AC unit.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: I saw that.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: And they would just let the kids know they just let the kid crawl on that.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, I'm sorry.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay, here's the thing.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: How can you be advanced enough to be like we can build a skyscraper?
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: We can, you know, send something to space.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you're thinking, a little bit of wiring should be fine to hold a kid over 15 stories, right?
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's all they really need.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I do feel, of course, better knowing like that we have those advantages.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, then the way that they uh they dispute that, or they go, I don't, I shouldn't say dispute that they kind of address that in the hospital or the doctor is like, and that's why so many kids were dying back then.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I wasn't alive, so I can't affirm or deny.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, when you hear that kind of stat where it's like, and that's why, you know, everyone was afraid of their kid dying.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, okay, that that got really serious.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate this.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't remember that statistic though.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I mean, in Ray's time, they had metal car seats.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like they had, yeah, if you if you look at the what they were sitting in, there was no cushion.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, and now you what you see kids, you know, when I'm strapping my son in, looks like I'm getting ready to send him to Mars.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, where are they going?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: The like trying to figure out the car seat has been a fun one.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think I've gotten it, but it's gonna like it takes at least probably like three to five minutes each time.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, all these little things incrementally that add up to trying to get ready and leave and go and do um, yeah, it's it definitely changes life.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: The weird thing, one of the weird things I I should say that stood out was we had um a baby shower here in in the area, and then we had one closer where my wife grew up.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh and so we got, yeah, it was really, really nice.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: We had like two groups worth of stuff.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: You get so much stuff for a baby.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's sweet.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: And none of it is stuff that you thought you wanted or needed.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: And you'll use maybe about half of it, at least so far.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: We have.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but like you get this the stereotypical, like you get clothes, and people get clothes of different sizes because your baby's gonna grow.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: You get a couple toys, a couple books.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: You get a lot of things that are um really weird.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so like some of them have very straightforward names, and you're like, I know what that is.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Changing table.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a table where you change your baby.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, makes sense.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Then you get some.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: There's one, it's called the I think it's called a boppy.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: A what?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I've heard that.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: I've never heard of that.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Did you not have a boppy growing up, right?
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, we didn't have a boppy.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_04: No boppies for Ray.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's unfortunate.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_04: You can tell though.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: So so what he had a bopless childhood.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now wait, if he had a boppy or got bopped, those are two different things.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: Those are two different things.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we didn't we didn't even have binkies.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have Twinkies?
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: Anyways, no, it wasn't until I was older that I learned what a binky was because it we didn't have one.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: So, what did you use if the child was screaming?
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have one.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't have a screaming child, or you didn't have a screen.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: No, we didn't have we didn't have anything to stick in their mouth.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have one.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Back in my day, kids didn't scream.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, so like what what do you think a bopy is?
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Ray, what what do you if if I said hey, someone got me and my family, like for our newborn, they got us a Bopy.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: I would say it would be like some sort of a springy swing for the kid to be on.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like that they jump up and down on?
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: I once again, I with the name Bobby.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: Makes sense.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: Jaggers, do you know what a Bobby is?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_04: My wife's gonna crucify me because I believe we have one.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_04: Like I I think we have like two of them.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: You got two, you think you have two and you don't know what they are?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_04: I like I know the logo, it uh I don't know what it does.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if it's like one of those tummy time things or I don't know.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, wait, it's not the thing that you know that she puts on her thing and the baby sits on her like a kangaroo.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not a not a mobile pouch, no.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, no, yeah, I'm horrible at this.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: So no, it it is like a tummy time thing.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys have tummy time back in your day?
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, we didn't have tummy time.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: My gosh.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what tummy time is?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it's apparently a big deal that like Oh yeah, you have to have tummy time.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because if you don't have tummy time, once again, it's like, how would your child survive?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: And like Ray is over here, like, oh no, we just didn't have it.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: But like you, it's important for your baby to have time on their stomach because why not?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but not too much time because they breathe from their stomach.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's one of those things where they're like, make sure that they try like a little bit of this, but like not too much, otherwise they will die.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, brother.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so it's like a big, like, oh, you gotta get the red event time.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_04: Don't put them on their face, but you gotta put them on their face.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, man.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so so with that, you got the boppy, and that's what it is.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's like this pillow type thing.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: It yeah, it's basically just a pillow for the floor that you can put them on that way, like they can be on their stomach and it has to have a special name.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the thing.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why why is it called the Bopi?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't it just be it looks like a neck pillow?
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: It really does, but it's like for the whole baby's body.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like a it's like those um floaties that you see in a pool where it's like a net with a pool noodle around it that you could see.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's just kind of like that, but for the floor, but there are different models and makes, and who cares?
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: So, like there are things you've got to navigate.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: What did I even get?
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: People give things in like, here's your boppy, and I'm like, Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: What does it do?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because you don't know, you gotta be happy when they give it to you, right?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: They give you like, here's this stuffed animal that was hand sewn, and I'm like, Thank you.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know what that is, yeah.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Yes, but I was like, okay, I guess like hand sewn is a big deal.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, like, okay, but yeah, I know what that does.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you squeeze it and you hold it, and there you go.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: Here's your boppy.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, one of the things that we we didn't we put it, I think, on our registry, but we didn't get it until we just recently got it.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know if you guys have seen this one, and I know for a fact, Ray, that you guys didn't have this because I didn't know about this existing.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's see what this is.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Have you guys heard of the um PPTPs?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: PPTPs.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_03: I know what this is.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_04: I do know what this is.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, I've never heard of it.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here's the thing.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_04: I yeah, I know what this is.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you're changing diapers.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_04: It helps you stay dry.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: Change in diapers, and you have a boy.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Boys are born as human sprinklers.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, they like to make it rain.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we that's what we had when I was yeah, when I was doing it.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: You had the PPTPs or you had the thing that would make it rain?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, we had the rain.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I don't think that's a new innovation, but okay.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we we got these, and what they are is they're essentially like a washcloth material type thing.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: But they are little triangles.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm sorry, little cones is really what they are.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: And you stick them on top of the baby when you're changing him.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_01: That way.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that way when he turns into a human sprinkler, it just absorbs right into there, and there you go.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I was here's a I saw this, and my wife was like, here's the thing that I'm like, do we really need this?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Cut to, I'm trying to think, in one, like in the span of 24 hours, he like sprinklered himself, us, and our bed like four times.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: We had no clean uh like blankets or sheets or like pulling from random things, just like cover the mattress.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: And he was hydrated.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, he was like just going everywhere.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't know if this is an exfoliation skin routine, but like it's gonna be a big influencer trend.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, like we we got the PPT piece, and uh once again, I was like, it's not that important.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: The other night I used one.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: It was actually last night, I used one, thinking like this is still just not a big deal.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've never seen this be a function.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's not until I either take it off or I forget to use it that that's when he's left.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, right.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, here we go, let it rip, fire hose way.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so last night we I used it and he he used it properly.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I guess I used it properly.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know what he's doing.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, he didn't I used it properly for him.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're awkward.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, like that, like it worked because I was and I didn't notice anything.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Once again, it's middle of the night, so I'm tired anyway.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I go to like remove it, and I'm like, oh, that's like heavy and wet, and like there we go.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like that actually worked.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so there are some things where the boppy, you just have no idea.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: Some things like the PPTP, you're like, I think I know what this is, but I didn't know I needed it.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: And you actually kind of find out you do.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, was there anything that you like had growing up that you know, since you're taking care of kids that are your siblings, was there anything that you're like, we used this all the time, or this was this was a godsend for us?
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_04: Did you did you guys have reusable diapers or disposable diapers?
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, they were cloth diapers with the pins.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_02: They did.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh in fact, this is a funny story because uh several years later, when um Linda's sister had uh had a child, she she said uh to to me and Linda, why why don't you go change him?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you go change him?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: What I had never seen a disposable diaper.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know how it worked.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, huh?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: How where's the pin?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the yeah?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: We figured it out, but it that was that was all new to me because I only knew clothed diapers and and pins.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: The first two or three times you do it, you feel like it's a bomb diffusal, right?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Where you're like, I gotta match this up and do this.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then after you start changing, you're like, oh, the bomb's already gone off.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just disposing of it.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, I yeah, it's it's a it's a fun, it's a fun bonding experience.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Jacers, is there anything that you guys have that you're like, oh my gosh, like can't believe we thought we didn't need this, or this has just been a huge, huge, huge help.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_04: The PPTP, I I don't know if we had that exactly for my son, but what I I found a trick.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_04: So if you if you can't afford the PPTP or if you run out of it, here's a trick.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_04: What you do is obviously baby wipes are naturally cold, you know, or or or cooler.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_04: So as you're preparing the child, a boy, preferably, um, and you know that something's going to happen with, you know, how do you know it's gonna happen?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_04: Do you have a spider sense for this?
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, every single time you're gonna prepare for it because I mean if if it happened one one time, it's one too many.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_04: So true.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_04: So what you do is you take the baby wipe and you put it on their on their forehead.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_04: And as you're like undoing their diaper lightly, you you had the cold baby wipe on their forehead.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: And it stimulates them to pee.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: I've never heard it on the forehead.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard that like the cooler temperature in general can be.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_04: You can put like on their tummy, on their forehead, or you know, even get their hands cool while you're doing it.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_04: But I found I just threw, you know, it's easy.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_04: I just take the baby wipe, I play with him, I throw it on his forehead when he was a baby, and then he would pee, and then boom.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have that, we didn't have that in the olden days.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: You didn't even have baby wipes or our forehead.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have baby wipes.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's I recall.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember baby wipes.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: What did you use?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: Washcloth?
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Wash cloth.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: How many?
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: A lot.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of laundry.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm sure.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that between that and the disposable diapers, I can only imagine.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: My gosh.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't had disposable diapers in that.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say we haven't had to do that, but we have to do laundry because the human sprinkler just goes everywhere.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_04: That's better to wash than solids.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Fair, fair.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we're still in the phase where like there isn't odor, but I know that that day's like coming for me.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm kind of dreading that experience.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, because the when when the odor kicks in, like, that's whenever it changes things.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: But like right now, you can throw a diaper away and it's fine.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't cause a problem, it doesn't reek.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I know that those like the days of that happening are few and far between now.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well well, this'll get you know what we used to do?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: We take the dirty diaper off that had the thing in it, and then you'd put it in the toilet and swish it around so clean it off, so it would all the mess would go in the toilet.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: And then you'd put the then you'd put the diaper in the diaper pail, and then you'd wash them all at the same time.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that's what we did.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_02: There was no such thing as a throwaway.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, you you actually put it in the toilet.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: That I like here's the thing I came from a village and they won't even do that.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Now you know now you know that's something wrong with that.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: Now you know how old I am.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_02: I I go back.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: A million years you went back to the Great Depression.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's about the I'm depressed for you.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, it was it was not good.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Never.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: Don't look at me.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Never, Joseph.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_04: I would never, even if I was poor, I would go outside and use the garden hose.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: No, even if I was poor.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my word.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was just standard.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody did that.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody thought everything's standards with that.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: If your friends dipped their diaper in the toilet, would you?
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Apparently, yes.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: My gosh.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: From another country.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know this.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, just another era.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: Not another country, another era.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: I just I gotta ask.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we're on a hot streak right now.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go ahead.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: What what else is something that you're like, this is this will blow them away from helping with raising kids.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're pushing, right?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm I want to I'm like, look, if there's something if there's something weirder than this, I gotta know.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta we had uh glass baby bottles, and you put the milk in there and you put it in a pan on the stove and you'd you'd warm it that way.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: And and then put this put screw the nipple on the top and everything.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: And then of course you had your little brush to clean them out, but um, there was no such thing as a liner inside or anything like they have now.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just a glass jug, just a glass jar, and yeah, and it was heavy, so the baby couldn't hold it for till they got a lot bigger.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Was this special made, or was this like you just grabbed a jar from no, it was a special baby bottom.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: Mason jar that's we got a mason jar, I got a rubber glove.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: I just cut a little hole in my whole finger.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: That would be funny.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_04: The rubber band on it.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'd say you got five younger siblings, there are five fingers in that glove, just five little holes in each finger, and everyone's getting fed for dinner.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there you go.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Ray really Ray really came from humble times.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you don't know how the half of it.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: You don't know the half of it.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, first of all, first of all, they were glass bottles specifically for babies.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: This is how this is the house that I was born into.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, wait, hang on.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: It was like it was like a one bedroom with eight kids.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: No, it wasn't.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hang on.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta ask though.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: You said the house you were born into.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, were you born in the house?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, I was born in a hospital, fortunately.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, look, with all the plot twists we've had, no, this is my bedroom, also my delivery room.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: This is the house I was taken to after I was born.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Taken to you.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a hostage situation all of a sudden.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was relocated forcefully.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: The house had a living room and the kitchen and one bedroom.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: I told you it was a one-bedroom.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: Notice I didn't say it had a bathroom.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: It had an outhouse.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now I don't remember that because I was too young.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't, I know I had I was I was in diapers.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I I don't remember the outhouse part, but we had an outhouse.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_04: So you're the only one that was allowed to use the bathroom in the house.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_04: Because you had a diaper.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: But and then at the kitchen at the kitchen sink, we had a hand pump.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: We only had cold water.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have hot water.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: So uh that's that's how humble my beginnings were.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: Just a little three-bedroom house, outhouse, and and a hand pump at the sink.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember the hand pump and I remember the kitchen.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was old enough to remember that before we moved to the other house.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: So uh yeah, I remember then.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_02: But you don't remember the outhouse, could you?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember because we I never never used it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: I have to remember it.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: To my recollection, I never used it.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember it.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't know about that till years later.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: My mom and dad were talking about it, and they told me we had an outhouse in it.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we did.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: So that's crazy.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_01: That is that is quite the change.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden, though, that makes my whole village story seem a lot less perplexing.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like you would you would relate to that a whole lot more and a lot less shocked.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I would relate to that.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's taking offense.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what I was like, you like you seem so surprised about that.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_01: There are places like this.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, we had the same upbringing as what we did like.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: We did.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like our our kitchen faucet for a while had the hiccups.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: And by that.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: So by that I mean if you turned it on too full, not necessarily if it's too fast, that's a whole separate problem.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: If you turned it on a little bit, you're fine.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you turn it on more, the water would come out in spurts.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like that.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: No one's ever made the same sound as until you did that.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, like you seem to know what this is.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I've I've had many life.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's called a water hammer.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: So that happened.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you turn it on too fast or too full, it would just not come on.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: Not come on.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_01: For days sometimes.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you clogged it.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, like, like how do you clog it's water?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: How do you clog it?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_04: Because you got too much air in the system now.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_04: Because when it's hiccuping, it's going, that means that there's air going in.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_04: No, this if it's I mean it's exploiting my trauma.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_04: There's air going in the pipe as the water is, and that's what's creating the and now you got too much air in the pipe, and now their water won't come out.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_04: So it's almost like it's clogged.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_04: So that's what we had.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like we had water had hiccups for a while.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh so yeah, like I would think that all of a sudden we would relate a lot more on things.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, so it it's very interesting.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: The like I said, the the shock value that you took from the village.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: It I would think you'd be like, oh, it just sounds like home.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it it did a lot.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's it's still it was mill and over very small, nothing.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were an advanced village.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: Village 2.0.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: I like I said, I just really thought we would have related more on the village, but it's fine.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um so we back back to like myself in the current day and age, this year, um my wife and I are, I think, hitting kind of a stride, um, getting like a flow to what parenting looks like and having a child.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to work, she's staying home, and we're both just trying to make it through each day.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been trying to tell her, especially like right after giving birth, I'm like, hey, I don't want you to feel like you've got to do anything around the apartment, take it easy.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you have something to eat and you like leave a plate somewhere, like just leave it.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: I will come home, I will take care of it.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a dishwasher.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's the thing, like, because there's only so much I can do.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not home.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not home but a couple hours, and then whenever I am, I can only do the changing.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_01: I can't do the input.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm trying to find ways to be of assistance.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so the other night, the other night, I was pre thinking about coming over for the podcast, and then this happened, and I told her, I'm like, I'm sharing this in a couple days.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: And she just kind of laughed at me.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: So let me think here.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was, yeah, it was just in the evening.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get things going like before we get ready for bed.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: So like the trash is taken care of, all the foods put away from dinner.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm looking at the dishwasher and I'm like, okay, so I'm getting ready to load it and then getting re getting ready to start it.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got all the dishes in there.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at I don't see any dishes, and I walk past, I'm getting ready to walk past her and I say, Hey, there aren't any dishes laying around, are there?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: Not once again, not because I'm expecting a whole lot.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, if she had something around the apartment, I'll just I'll take care of it.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's sitting down with the baby and she didn't respond for a second.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of looked at her and she looked at me and she goes, Oh, thank you.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, What?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: What I said, what what?
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, Thank I thank you.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_01: You said that you you finished with all the dishes.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: I said, No, I was not saying that in the slightest.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I I'm like, What do you actually think I said?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, I th I you said and she starts to laugh because she realizes she's like, Oh, I misheard this game terribly.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, I I just thought you said that like you took care of the dishes.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm really checking, I'm really trying to make sure because I have a hard time hearing her at times.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: I have a hard time keeping up with things, and so I'm like, did she just miss here?
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: She lets me know, she's like, I just kind of heard dishes, didn't pay attention, didn't really hear anything else.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, and I've got to show an example of gratitude for our son.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was just like, thanks, you probably took care of it.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, no, like that is not what this was.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that was that was with like a day of fair sleep, and that was after a full day.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: So even now I'm already concerned at like what what other miscommunications are gonna come down the line?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: What other things are we gonna say that are gonna get messed up?
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_04: Um, because the mommy brain is tricky, you gotta be careful because yeah, yeah.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's so like the I think the pregnancy brain is a thing, and I got to witness some of that, but afterwards, I think I'm the dumb one because I I because of the sleep uh deprivation, I don't know things.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: I used to be really, really proud of myself for knowing a lot of words.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize like that was kind of, I guess, a thing of my my ego, my pride.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: Now, like I will be in the middle of a conversation, like I don't know what to say, I don't know the words for things, I don't know.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: It feels like a really weird post-birth side effect for someone who did so little.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_04: Definitely.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: I know I don't know how much you relate to that.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, much okay.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, sometimes you feel like an airhead in certain situations.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like, wait a minute, I know this, but you got so many other things going on in your dad's brain.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that it's like it's hard to snap back and put that hat back on.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, oh yeah, okay, this department, you know.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I'm just like, I don't even know, I don't know who I am or where I am anymore.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel lost at times.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just kind of like aimlessly wandering around.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_04: I hope it gets better.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: Here's hoping for both of us.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Here's hoping.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, for real.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, because I'm like, I don't know.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: It it makes a whole lot more sense now.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: Looking back on my parents, I'm like, that's why they didn't remember things, is because they had four of us.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: My parents have four kids in five years.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, that's five years at least.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't sleep.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's no way they did.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no, for real.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: I like it to give me an appreciation for I'm like, I don't know how they remembered their own names, let alone ours.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: They they would do the thing every now and then where they would like look at one of us and say the other kid's name.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: And growing up, you're like, how do you not know who I am?
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: I just I'm like, okay.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like not terribly offended, but I'm like, come on, like, you know, we're all different.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: We all look different.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's not we're not the same.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: But now I'm like, oh, I get it.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't I don't know anything.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_04: I had a fight with my sister over this one time, like previously, and I feel terrible about it now.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_04: But she uh she was, you know, she just had three kids, and she kept calling me Ethan, and that's her son's name.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_04: She'd be like, Ethan, Jake, Ethan, Jake, Jake, Ethan.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_04: And one day we were working together, and I don't know, it just got to me after like eight hours of her doing it.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_04: It just got to me.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_04: I went off honor, you know, like siblings do.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, how do you not know my name?
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: My name is Jake.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_04: I've been here longer than your son, Ethan.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_04: I I didn't say anything like too hurtful, but I went off.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_04: I was angry and stuff, and apparently, you know, I said some things, and I feel terrible about it, especially now because then I wasn't a father.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_04: Now you understand that I didn't fully understand it then when I'm yelling at her, and now I can see what my wife is going through, and this and that.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh man.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: My sister, I'm sorry.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's and that's kind of how I feel for my parents.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they they say that like as you get older and you have kids, you realize your parents knew more than they you gave them credit for and more than you thought.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm just glad they knew anything because I don't know squat right now.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: And um, my wife will call me out on things.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, I was like assembling bottles the other day after I had been making food.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_04: And I have just assembling bottles.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, bum, okay.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like we had after the not the glass one.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: We had just like washing this up.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I had like just been, I was making some pancakes, I think.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I like cracked some eggs, got some milk, and I'm trying to assemble bottles, and she's like, Did you wash your hands after?
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, No, but like the last egg I cracked was the cleanest egg crack I've ever seen.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: No, not how that works.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: And in the moment I was like, Can't be that big a deal.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: And all it took was like 30 seconds of reflection.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Yeah, it's probably not the best.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because once again, like then all the warning labels for everything pop back in my mind of like, oh, that's how you mess things up.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's how it's a problem.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm I'm very grateful that we've been blessed with a very healthy son.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, his name's Samuel.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, my wife calls him Sammy.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it's been really, really great.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm blessed and honored that God felt like I could handle a child.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um I have a story to share about myself and you guys, I I'm going to encourage as much judgment and criticism as you would like.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: So we're we're open on those terms.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: So growing up, we lived in one house, and then uh after a while we moved into another house.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um when we moved into this new house, it had a couple of things I've got to keep an eye on.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: So it had an unfinished basement.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: My parents worked to finish it.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: It had um like some dead stumps and stuff.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was more at like an angle of the yard, so like the water would run down.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: And because the water would run down, there was a um like a ditch near the road.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it was it was totally fine, but there was this really weird hole in that area, and it was like the size of uh almost like a paper towel, like okay, paper towel.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like hole over.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: And like it was really weird because like my dad would try to fill it.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's very he takes a lot of pride in like making the place look nice, and so he's trying to fill the hole, but rocks there.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing that he did, like it would just always be gone.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: It would just always sink.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so like a black hole in the colour.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, basically, but it was really small, it was really small.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: But he's like, you know, I don't want like someone running around and like falling in that, like twist your ankle on that, whatever.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so he's just like, I don't, I also don't know where it goes.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I I want it just to be filled, that way the ditch works properly.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: So there are a couple things like with this house, like I said, the basement, the hole, the yard, just keeping an eye and trying to make it look nice.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, as I mentioned, my parents had four kids in five years.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: One of the things you learn growing up um, it's it's the inverse of what a parent experiences.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: So whenever a parent has kids, they're like, Well, when the kid's napping, when the kid's sleeping, don't wake them up.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right, like you want them to sleep.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: As a kid, then you get older, you're like, when mom or dad are napping, don't wake them up.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like they need they like it's not gonna turn out well for anyone.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_01: And my mom especially, she I feel like she's solar powered, she wouldn't always sleep um throughout like a whole night.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so there was one Sunday we came up from church, um, everyone kind of went out to their own thing.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: I grabbed a snack, I got some like biscuits that we'd had, and I put some peanut butter in a bowl in the microwave to like make it creamy, and I was like, I'll just do it, like that'll be my snack, biscuits of peanut butter.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: My mom is in the living room and she takes a nap.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, that's great.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like everyone's kind of resting.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm eating the food, eating the food, and after a while I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to finish this.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, I need to dispose of the rest of it, it's not gonna be eaten by anyone else, and you just throw it away.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't want to throw it in the trash can because that's close to where my mom is.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: That will probably wake her up.
• 58:34
  unknown: Oh, yeah.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's one of those like you don't do that.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: You're overthinking this.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's for real.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: Walking my life.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: So then I was like, well, I can't, I can't leave it out because what'll happen is later she'll come down before I've come to grab it after she's you know been awake.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, Who left the food here?
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: Why is we leaving just like we don't do that?
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, what do I do?
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_01: What do I do?
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: And this idea struck me from when you don't have a dog that you could just no, no, we're not doing that for the dog.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where this idea came from, but it hit me and I didn't have any like qualms with it.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, this idea will work.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the bottomless hole?
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I was like, no, like what hang on, hang on.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: I just asked if you remembered the bottomless hole.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't say anything else.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the bottomless hole?
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, I can just dump the remaining peanut butter down that little.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's a bottomless hole.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: Who cares what happens?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: You're feeding it peanut butter.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna grow up.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, so I snuck out like one of the doors, really quiet, get out there.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: I've got my spoon with me, and I just kind of ran to the hole.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Boom.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, it's disposed of.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be a problem for anyone.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't wake my mom up, no issues.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I would have gotten away with it.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody will know.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody would have known.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm walking around a little bit later, and my dad's going outside, and but my parents say, like, oh, this person from church is coming over to the house.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, why are they coming over?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because he used to work for the city.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: And my dad's like, oh, he's gonna like take a look at the hole and help help see what's going on.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect timing.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, this is like an hour after I've done it.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so I have to chase my dad down.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm chasing my dad down as this guy's pulling in.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Dad, real quick.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he's like, What?
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm gonna talk to the guy, like what?
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you're holding me up.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I was like, real quick, in the hole, there's peanut butter.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he looked at me, he's like, What?
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, there's peanut butter in the hole.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: I put it there anyway.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I went back inside.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: Josiah.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'm not gonna worry about an explanation right now.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'll do that later.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I left.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: He then has to have a conversation with the guy from church to be like, Can you take a look at the hole that's bottomless?
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: Also, I just got words, just got a news update.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's like three or four tablespoons of peanut butter in this hole.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not until later that he comes in, he's like, Okay, now I need an explanation.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's going on?
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so I share this, and my whole family is like, You are an idiot.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you are truly stupid.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: And like, how could you do this?
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the thing.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think you're stupid.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: You don't really overthink it.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_02: It makes sense to me.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_02: I would have done the same thing.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, you guys are brothers from the same village, remember?
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_03: Something like that.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: You could have done it in the outhouse.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so anyway, I was I was like, uh, but it here's the thing that gets everyone.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I need to know from this story, how old was I?
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're guessing?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_01: 10.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_01: I need okay.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: Ray says I was 10 years old.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_02: You were 10.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_04: Man, I was gonna say 11, but okay, well, I'll do something different since you said 10.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_04: I'll say eight.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: That was my 20s.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: I had taken just a list of things I had done.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: I had voted, I had taken college classes, I had lived in Arizona by myself for semesters, and I came back home, and that's the HIV.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_04: To fill holes with peanut butter.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's a silly story.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_02: I can't believe that.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_01: So my my siblings let me live it down.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_01: My sister was talking, she got to see our my my wife and I, she got to see our son.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, she was like, You have moments where someone has a baby and you kind of think like, that person has a baby.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, what's the moment that you think of?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, You putting peanut butter in the hole.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: Just thinking, like, that's what I'll do.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: That seems like a reasonable, you know, procedure of steps is to put put peanut butter in the hole.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um eat raw chicken, put peanut butter in the hole.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_04: Like he has some very questionable decisions.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: For real.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so the fact that I've done that, and that God looks down and is like, but he can handle a child, it's fine.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see what he does with this one.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: So as long as there are no holes near around nearby, yeah, my son's totally safe.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but yeah, I think that's why he gave me my wife, is because don't take him to the Grand Canyon.
• 1:02:56
  unknown: Gosh.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's the closest hole I know of.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my word.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: No, but like, I think that's why he gave me my wife, is really what it is, is because he's like, you can go and have the job, and she will round out all the weird eccentricities that you have and all the weird things that you do, and she'll she'll keep you grounded in reality.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's what wives do, yeah.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what my wife does.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm very, very grateful to her um for keeping me alive, for keeping our child alive, for surviving, being with me.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: For being the adult supervision in the house.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: For real.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's no, it's bad at times.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like the the things that I'm like, oh, we should do this.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, why?
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, because we can?
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, we're adults.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, that's right, we are.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um good thought.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, good, good point.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: I can't argue with that one.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I've I I someone had shared this.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I heard this growing up, and I've it's really stuck with me.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they were talking about someone else's wife, and they said, You have a really good feather.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_01: The person was like, What do you mean?
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like they call the wife a feather.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: And they said, It's because you're an arrow and with what God's given you to do, you've got, you know, a lot of um energy pushing you, you've got drive, determination, focus.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: You've got a target you need to hit.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: But if there's not a feather on the end of the arrow, then it goes any which direction.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: The feather helps steady and keep keep it on course.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's what my wife has been.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: She's been a great feather.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's because I go all which directions, and she's helped steady a lot of those things and keep me on course.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: I when she was pregnant, we're in the midst of moving, she's pregnant, and I'm I'm looking at things, and I look, I I mentioned last time I'm a really big like board game, card game person.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I was like, here are some games that are on sale.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts?
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I need you to be a feather here.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she looked, and I'm like, I do know it's a hundred dollars, but what are your thoughts?
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, I think we could probably hold off on this for a while.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's and that's the feather I need.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: I need someone to help like keep me grounded in reality.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, if she can nip those small things in the bud, then it doesn't escalate to where I'm eating raw chicken or putting peanut butter in a hole.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_04: The concept I always heard and was raised with is uh you're you're being a man, I'm supposed to be the head of my household.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_04: But my wife is the neck.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_01: So she tells the head where to go.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_01: So either in the marriage, it's either that you guys like have a neck pain or a migraine, one of whichever one's causing problems.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_01: My scientific.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_03: No play.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, can I tell a story about a hole in the ground?
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're like 10 minutes later.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm glad I want to know what's I'm glad you had this thought ten minutes later.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_04: Let's go back to the hole in the ground.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_04: Rewind.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, well, it when he was talking about it, it reminded me of it.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_02: The second house that I the second house that I lived in out in the yard, we had a clay uh sewer pipe.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: You remember clay sewer pipes?
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_04: Was it connected to your outhouse?
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, this wasn't the outhouse.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: House.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: This was the other one.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_04: We had an in our bathroom.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_04: Your times are questionable.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: We had a we had a sewer pipe that was sticking out of the ground in the yard.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: And over the top was a piece of sheet metal that was bent on four corners, and you it just covered it.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I would, as a child, I'd go out there and I'd take the cover off and I'd listen and I'd look down there.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_02: And if somebody inside was running water, you could hear it because that was the sewer pipe.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: That okay, that was the clean out for the sewer pipe.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_02: So if it ever needed to be cleaned out, the city could come and why it was in our yard, I don't know, and not out in the street.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_02: But but wasn't there but wasn't there a smell?
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_02: No, not that I recall.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_02: I know there was venting out, but I don't remember a smell.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_02: But uh but there's clean outs usually on every property.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I just thought that was dangerous to be in a yard where this little kid could it wasn't big enough that I'd get stuck in it, but you know, it was dangerous for me to be playing around and yet I was over there playing around with it.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: Who was the fiddler?
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, back in those days, I mean child safety was like number one priority.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, there was nothing.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: Just go outside until the sun comes down.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and as long as you come back before it's down, then you're safe.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: You're fine.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let me let me tell you this story since you brought up child safety.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_02: We brought up that 30 minutes ago.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's the thing.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: Here's what's getting me is is the way that you're segueing into these is what's scary.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like speaking of holes in the ground.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_03: No, let's go even further, but let me tell you about this thing I threw in the hole in the ground.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I love you, Ray.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do this.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_02: So child safety.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_02: This again will show you how old I am.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, in that house, I went to kindergarten.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I in in that house?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_02: No, I walked, I walked to school, but I I became a kindergartner in that when I at that age.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, uh to interrupt.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_01: My second house.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: Did you walk to school in kindergarten?
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like by yourself?
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_01: By myself.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_02: See, that well, that was what I'm getting at.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I had to cross the streets where there was a traffic light.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_02: And um, my mom took me uh a couple times the day before, uh this is where you're going, and this is how you get there, and and you white for the green light or the walk sign or whatever, and you walk there.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I walked to school and I walked back by myself.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: How old?
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: How old?
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_02: Five.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was five.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_02: And what city was this?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I won't tell the city, but it was an in it was a small town in Indiana.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's fine.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, a zillion years ago when things were safer than they are now.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I didn't think anything of it.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't think anything of it.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_02: She had kids to take care of at home.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't have, you know.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she loses one, she's got others at home.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_02: She couldn't, she couldn't walk me to school.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: So um You're playing Frogger for real out here.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I never thought anything of it.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_02: Talk about and she never thought and and you know, of course, it was it was a snow state.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: So in the winter, I would walk in the snow, and nobody thought anything of it.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_02: And we we just did it.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody, nobody gave it a second thought.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_02: So when you said, you know, child safety, yeah, you know, kids could do things back then that they wouldn't dare do now.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: And in fact, and in fact, I saw a story on the internet this very morning.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like today?
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like today, this this day.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: There was a mother, and I forget what state she was in, but she lived in a gated community.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_02: And she had a five, I think he was five, I think he was the same age.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_02: And he was walking down a path that they that they walked down many times.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he was picking up goose feathers.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody from the community saw it, reported her that her child was out there unattended, and she got arrested, and she uh yeah, so she's and she's uh labeled as a child, something or other, uh, for several years and uh it's it's child neglect or something.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that because the child was walking along by himself picking up goose feed in a gated community where he's probably pretty safe, but just because there was another body, there was a body of water like a small pond or lake or something.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought that's ridiculous.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_02: That never would have happened when I was growing up.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Never.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_02: My mom used to leave me in the car all the time.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_04: Not like at not like, you know, not like in a in a car seat or nothing, but I mean like at six, seven years old or something.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_04: She's going in the uh grocery store to get the prescriptions or whatever to pump gas.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_04: She'd leave me in the car and whatnot.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_04: Nowadays you can't do that.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_04: You get all these weirdos looking in the windows and they're like, Oh my god, your kid's gonna die.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_04: It's like the car's running, the AC's on, and they're completely fine.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_04: They're not like screaming for help.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_04: You're the one over here sticking your nose in somewhere that's clearly doesn't belong.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I understand those instances where people do make the other things where they forget that they which is horrible.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_04: They forget that the child's in the back, right?
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_04: Or they just don't care.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_04: You know, they they shut the car off, the kids in the front seat, and you can clearly tell the kids, you know, not comfortable.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_04: But um, yeah, I mean, I think sometimes people should just stay stay in the lane.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_02: So uh what we did years ago, and nobody thought anything of this lady got in trouble for because her kid was out alone.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh it it just blows my mind.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's it's crazy to me.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_01: So like being in the small middle of nowhere, it wasn't something we did all the time, but like to ride our bikes around, or I had a little like foot scooter, like to go and go around the little village.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there were of course certain areas that you're like based on the look of that house, I'm gonna stay away.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_04: But like you would just you had rough parts of your village?
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you recall last time I mentioned that there are certain groups of people who were interested in living there, those who were like, I was born here and died here.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Those who were like, hey, this is a cheap place to live and move into, and then those who were like, little to no law enforcement.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_01: I remember that.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I bet it kept that one police officer very busy.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_01: So like that was the thing, is if is uh as a kid, you know, we would do like fundraisers in school and church and stuff, and so it wasn't uncommon to be like, oh, I'll go like around and ask for money.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: And my parents were always like, make sure that if it looks sketchy, you just don't, don't bother.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's not worth, it's not worth it.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, like, but even at that, just to go out and be by myself, I'm looking at it now from my parents' point of view, and I'm like, I don't know how confident I'd have to be before I'm like, yeah, go do that.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because especially, like you said, it's not just that times have changed, it's that everyone else has also been changing and things have been changing.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not as safe as it used to be.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so now I'm like, you know, what's the where's what's the line gonna be for me where I'm like, yeah, this is what's safe and what feels acceptable and what feels scary and dangerous.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_04: Is it really getting more dangerous?
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_04: Or do we just feel that way because now all the internet streams and we just see it and hear about it a lot more?
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, I think it's more dangerous.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_04: You really do?
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_04: You think you think statistically the crimes have gone up now compared to whenever we're talking 20, 30, 40?
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_02: If I if I had a kid today, would I let them ride around the neighborhood on the bicycle alone?
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, or even with a friend of theirs?
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_04: No, but that's part of also evolving and getting smarter, right?
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, maybe.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think for me, it's just that like I'm in a very different area, right?
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I went from a village of 500 people where you know you are much more likely to see uh a horse than you were to see, I don't know, like a group of motorcyclists.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was not gonna be as big uh of an occurrence, and so um very different than here where it's like, oh, you got six-lane roads, like we didn't have a lane, our roads didn't have lines, they were just just a road, just asphalt on the ground.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was looking on the map the other day and it was like there's this street and this street, and then there's one that was like unnamed road.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, we don't even know.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_01: There's just something like that.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Unnamed road, you know, and it's like, where do you live?
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_01: I live off of unnamed road.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh on the unnumbered house on unnamed road.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, like to go from that to this, that's where my mind shifts.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I don't know, I don't know what life looks like here raising a family versus out there.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, right.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta take baby Sam to your village and show him where you grew up.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Show him the stomping grounds.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't even know it's it's weird.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Anytime I've gone back, it does still like it doesn't evolve much, it doesn't change much.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_01: But every time I'm like, oh, it just looks grosser, like it looks less appealing.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I might be like, and this is why we don't live in this village, but uh you know, to show like different areas Vellina where I grew up, I wouldn't be opposed to that, but yeah, not the same.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_04: So Ray, uh Ray's doing something very special right now that you have no idea what he's about to do.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that that goes for the whole episode though, like for what it's worth.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_01: I've had no idea where you were going the whole time.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_04: He did some homework, and I don't know if you've listened to previous uh episodes currently, recently, but like the last five or so episodes, he's been on a creative kick where he likes to write limericks.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_04: So he he wrote a limerick for me, he wrote one for Stephanie, he's written one for um Christine and others, and so he he actually wrote a couple limericks for you.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fascinated.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, like my degree is in English and professional writing.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, like this.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited, I'm stoked.
• 1:15:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, now I had to I had to make uh take a liberty here because uh for rhyming purposes, I changed your state from Illinois.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, because it didn't rhyme with what I needed it to say.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_02: So you temporarily grew up somewhere else.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I moved you to a new state, but probably a better village.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Great, thanks.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_02: I got two.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'll I'll read this one and I like I like the other one better, but I'll I'll start with this one.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_02: There once was a guy named Josiah who came from a town in Ohio.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_02: The town was so small that he knew one and all and said to each one, How are you?
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even if I'm in Ohio, just for this little umwork, I think it's I thought I could move you to Ohio.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_01: That was okay.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was that was uh doable.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, now this one uh I I think this one's hilarious.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm I'm really excited now.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there once was a guy named Josiah who thought he was the Messiah.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_02: He tried raising the dead, but that's when he said, sorry, folks, just lying.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just lying.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm deceitful in both of these?
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I find a place I didn't actually live in, and then the other one, I'm making claims that I clearly can't support.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I I I thought that was Did you hear the one he made for me?
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_04: No, oh man.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_04: You're do you remember it like off the top of your head?
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is like a uh performance here.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um there once there once was a guy, young man named Jakers, who wanted to play for the Lakers.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_02: He was great at the start.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_04: He was great when he started.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_02: You start when he's he was great when he started, but then when he farted, he sent the whole team to their maker.
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_01: How are you guys still friends?
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_01: I just need to know, just out of curiosity, like between them.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's our typical relationship when we go out and we talk each other.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_03: He thought it was hilarious.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_03: He thought it was great.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's good.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_03: It could have been worse.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you didn't hear mine.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_02: I have to I have to repeat mine because I like mine too.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_01: The one that you made for yourself?
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_04: You can't leave a self out.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, I just let's see if I can self-deprecating over here.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we do.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, is that like the new tagline for the season?
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we gotta make fun of ourselves.
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_04: We know what people's thinking.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_04: There once was a fellow named Ray who went to the altar to pray.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um prayed for some light.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, he prayed with all of his might he prayed for some light when one fell from the bay on Ray and hit Ray.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_04: You can listen to those of previous episodes.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_04: He actually nailed them, but this is all from memory.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the professional writing degree that I got is loving all of this.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's fantastic.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I had to share those.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm glad you did.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_01: I would have I would have felt bad had I heard those and not been here to react to them.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Very honored.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_01: What did you prepare for me, J.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Grizz?
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't prepare.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'm unprepared.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't I don't make limericks like he does.
• 1:18:42
  SPEAKER_04: I write a lot of this other stuff that we do, but the limericks, Ray's creative.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_04: He can do it.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Rhyming with Ray?
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_04: Is that your little sort of thing?
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_04: Rhyming with Ray.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_04: I like that.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_01: On today, rhyming with Ray.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_01: That yeah, I like that.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Trying to think, you gotta throw something at a limerick in there, but yeah, it would that would work.
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_04: So uh you interested in coming back in the future?
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_04: You want to make this a routine?
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_04: You want to come back like every uh couple thousand, uh five episodes, whatever.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_01: What's the range on this?
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, whatever whatever.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, the contract can be the contract, whatever you want.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have your people get with my people and fill out the details.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's been it's truly been uh like I said last time, it was it's been an honor.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: And um it was funny after after I did it last time and you know, I was waiting for it to be posted, and I I got to see and and share it.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I don't know, I didn't know if I could listen to it because I I live with myself.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_01: I hear myself think and talk enough.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I don't know.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I also'm like, is that gonna be kind of prideful if I'm like, well, how did I do?
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_01: How did I sound?
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_01: And my wife was listening to it and she's like, Did you listen to it yet?
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_01: I said, No.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_01: I said I and I share the same reason why.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, You've got to listen to it.
• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_01: To listen to it.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's great.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_01: And you did great.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I was gonna say the the amount of work and effort put into uh just all of it.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, wow, I was I was blown away because it made me feel extra special um because I got to be part of something you know bigger than than just what I brought to the table.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um but then I was like, yeah, like that was really fun, it was a blast.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I even re-uh re-listening to it recently, I was like, that was that was a really good time.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so um very, very honored and would be honored once again to return should the the time ever come for that.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_04: For comedy purposes, yeah.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_04: Your episode stands out a lot to me.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like if if I need a great laugh or whatnot, and yeah, it it may sound prideful, but I have to listen to the episodes for for multiple purposes.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_04: There's there's a lot of things that I do behind the scenes.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_04: So I do go back and listen to other episodes, and your episode, for one, it's one of the higher higher rating episodes.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm not the only one that has enjoyed that episode.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of people downloading and clicking on that.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_04: And for two, it's just you can hear your excitement, you can hear the the the stories, you can hear Ray and I's reaction.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_04: It just it's an overall original, fun episode that, you know, it's not like you're telling, you're you're not copying jokes, you're not copying, you know, from the biggest comedian.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_04: You're telling your own personal stories.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_04: And as Ray said, even in that podcast, that's what makes it funny.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you you were able to self-deprecate and and tell stories about chicken and and and and you know, different things.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to blow the whole episode because there's some people that probably haven't heard it, but episode 27 is amazing.
• 1:21:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like it was absolutely hilarious, and that's why it's I I knew that you could do it again.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, you're always welcome back because man, a a comedic, a comedian needs a stage, and so you have a stage here every so often whenever you uh you need to exercise and and uh uh test out those those jokes and that material.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure that that there'll be more and more as parenthood continues to sink in and as the yeah, more more PPTPs to come.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_04: We'll have to have your wife on too, because uh from the previous episode you were saying how you guys are experts in, you know, uh uh marriage advice.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_04: And I I need to circle back now that we've have children on the table.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_04: Like, are we still experts?
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're experts in what do we know in marriage for sure.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's parenting that's brand new to us.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe we can get your wife and my wife, and we can have a couple talk and figure out what what who's doing right and wrong.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because here's the thing I've got stories that come to my mind for myself that I can tell.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm almost concerned as to what she would think and what she's got to share, but you gotta give her the freedom.
• 1:22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very true, very true.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_01: It'd be very funny to hear her thoughts and her input, but she's welcome.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 1:22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'll make sure she she knows that as well.
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, she's got listen, so she'll hear it.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's true, that's true.
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_01: She'll listen to it before I find it.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_01: And she'll be like, Did you see this?
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Did you listen to it?
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's fun.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Josiah.
• 1:22:50
  SPEAKER_04: You already know this is your guest spotlight.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_04: Take 30 seconds-ish to plug whatever you want, your projects, when you're coming back, your links, your family shout-outs, anything, anything you want to do, go for it.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_04: Uh say hi to your mom and dad, whatever you want to do.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I mean, very similar to last time.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm extremely grateful to my family for putting up with me, to my wife for um marrying me to then put up with me and then to have our son together.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm thankful in advance to our son because one, I I feel bad for him.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get so many stories told about him that may or may not lead to his embarrassment.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm just thankful in advance for his forgiveness and understanding for that.
• 1:23:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I I I think it's just important to approach all of it with a grateful attitude.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's what I am.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm grateful to you guys for uh, like I said this last time, having a very fun space to have these conversations, to have moments to laugh, moments to share.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think that you can get real and get funny all in the same space, and it's good, it's healthy.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_01: So grateful to you guys as well for that.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um when I'll be back, I don't know.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_01: It depends on when I get to sleep and and uh you know what what material I've got and then what else Ray can remember from his childhood to share, because that'll be something I want to hear about too.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I I'm just very, very happy to be here and happy for uh for what comes next, whatever that may be.
• 1:24:17
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  SPEAKER_02: Producer Ray, hey, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Guest Josiah, unfit for radio music, episode mastery, and even more by Ronald L.
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  SPEAKER_02: Remember, if you can't find the good, then be the good.
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