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A Little Less Mess: [Oklahoma] Jaymie Adams · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess, Southern dru Crum podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Kara, Jess Kara, welcome to a little Less Mess.
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  Speaker 1: let's get into our case out of Oklahoma. So Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Lee Adams Nay Cueller was born April twentieth, nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 1: six in Tahlequah, Oklahoma. Jamie attended no Wada schools and
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  Speaker 1: played the trumpet in high school, as well as singing
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  Speaker 1: in the choir. As Jamie grew into an adult, she
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  Speaker 1: discovered her love for crafting and making homemade gifts. She
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  Speaker 1: furthered this love when she met a man and had
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  Speaker 1: two children with him, and so she was able to
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  Speaker 1: do crafts for them and really enjoyed that. She later
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  Speaker 1: developed a love for writing and felt that that was
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  Speaker 1: the best way to to express herself. After her previous
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  Speaker 1: relationship did not work out, she met Justin Adams. Jamie
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  Speaker 1: soon became pregnant and they married. In the spring of
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Jamie, Justin, and her two kids would settle
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  Speaker 1: in Blanchard, Oklahoma. Justin had recently joined the National Guard,
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  Speaker 1: but was not making much money outside of that. By
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  Speaker 1: late twenty eleven, the couple was struggling to make ends
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  Speaker 1: meet and ended up moving into a trailer next to
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  Speaker 1: Justin's mother where they could live without having to pay
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  Speaker 1: any rent. Money was extremely tight. Jamie was attending classes
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  Speaker 1: from nursing school and had just had a baby, and
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  Speaker 1: Justin had just returned from basic training so he would
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  Speaker 1: begin making more money once that pay came in. They
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  Speaker 1: were struggling so much that they did not have running
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  Speaker 1: water in the trailer. They had a hose from Justin's
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  Speaker 1: mom's home and would call her to turn it on
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  Speaker 1: when they needed water. While they were struggling financially, they
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be very happy. Justin doated on Jamie and
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  Speaker 1: everyone could see the love they had for each other.
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  Speaker 1: In December of twenty eleven, Jamie was preparing for Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Christmas was her favorite time of year. She went out
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  Speaker 1: of her way to make the holiday special for her children,
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  Speaker 1: even though she had no money. She used her love
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  Speaker 1: of crafts to make them gifts and try to make
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  Speaker 1: it feel like a normal Christmas. Financial stress continued to mount,
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  Speaker 1: with Justin still not making much and Jamie caring for
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  Speaker 1: a newborn. On December ninth, twenty eleven, Jamie headed out
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  Speaker 1: around ten pm to go hang out with some friends.
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  Speaker 1: Justin stayed home with the children. She took her cell
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  Speaker 1: phone with her and kept in contact with Justin as
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  Speaker 1: she drove thirty miles away to Midwest City, Oklahoma. Around midnight,
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  Speaker 1: she stopped contacting Justin. Justin starts panicking. Around three am,
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  Speaker 1: when Jamie is still not home, he heads over to
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  Speaker 1: his mom's house to let her know that Jamie was missing.
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  Speaker 1: They decide to hop in the car to go and
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  Speaker 1: try to find Jamie. They go to where they believe
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  Speaker 1: she might have been last They make it to a
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  Speaker 1: fast food restaurant in Midway City around four thirty a m.
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  Speaker 1: They find her van and it is locked. He can't
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  Speaker 1: access it to see if anything was in the van.
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  Speaker 1: From the window, they could not see anything and nothing
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  Speaker 1: looked overly suspicious, but he knew something was wrong. They
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  Speaker 1: called nine on one and police arrive at the scene
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  Speaker 1: and Justin is very agitated and angry, wanting them to
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  Speaker 1: let him in the car. They tell him that they
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  Speaker 1: need to hold off so that they can process the
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  Speaker 1: vehicle in case something bad has happened to Jamie. This
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  Speaker 1: makes Justin angry and he starts ignoring police questions. They
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  Speaker 1: try to have him explain why his wife was out
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  Speaker 1: at this time of night, and he says it that
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  Speaker 1: she was meeting a friend, but he could not name
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  Speaker 1: the friend. Things are seeming odd to police, but they
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  Speaker 1: are giving the benefit of the doubt that he is
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  Speaker 1: just upset his wife is missing. Jamie has an official
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  Speaker 1: missing person's report open for her, but investigators feel that
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  Speaker 1: Justin and his mother are withholding information. After three days
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  Speaker 1: with no sign to Jamie, investigators keep pushing Justin for
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  Speaker 1: more information. He finally admits to a shocking secret. About
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  Speaker 1: six months prior to Jamie going missing, they began posting
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  Speaker 1: online looking for other couples, posts saying we are an
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  Speaker 1: attractive couple looking for other couples to have fun with.
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  Speaker 1: They began swinging and really embraced the lifestyle. When discussing
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  Speaker 1: this with Justin, he said they did it to spice
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  Speaker 1: up their love life and really enjoyed it, so they
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  Speaker 1: kept doing it. What happened next, though, took it to
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  Speaker 1: another level. Jamie began offering herself for payment. Justin was
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  Speaker 1: okay with this and would post sexually explicit post online,
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  Speaker 1: saying it would be worth your time to compensate me.
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  Speaker 1: This was a way for the family to make some
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  Speaker 1: money and begin paying debts and living a better life.
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  Speaker 1: One of the posts said, I am a single mom
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  Speaker 1: and I need to buy toys for my kids. I
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  Speaker 1: will do anything. The couple finally got caught by Justin's
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  Speaker 1: mom when she read an email that was left open
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  Speaker 1: responding to an ad that offered for Jamie to have
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  Speaker 1: sex with a man in the back of the mini
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  Speaker 1: van while Justin drove them around. After finding out, Justin's
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  Speaker 1: mom sat down and spoke to them both. They stormed
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  Speaker 1: out of embarrassment, but he later called his mom and
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  Speaker 1: told her they would stop. However, they did not, and
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  Speaker 1: Jamie ended up pregnant, so when she went missing, she
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  Speaker 1: was about two months pregnant. This now explains to police
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  Speaker 1: why Justin was so evasive with questions the night Jamie
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  Speaker 1: went missing. They also realized that Justin's mother, Tina, was
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  Speaker 1: lying to them as well. When they speak to her
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  Speaker 1: about where Jamie went that night, she says that she
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  Speaker 1: told Justin not to tell police because they would not
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  Speaker 1: look for her if they knew she was involved with prostitution.
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  Speaker 1: Justin finally comes clean and tells police that Jamie was
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  Speaker 1: meeting a man in Norman, which was about eighteen miles
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  Speaker 1: from their home, with plans to have sex for money.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as the investigators found out about this, they
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  Speaker 1: began to fear that Jamie was not missing, that something
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  Speaker 1: bad had happened to her. They asked Justin to take
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  Speaker 1: a polygraph, which he fells. He continues to insist that
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  Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with Jamie's disappearance, but police
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  Speaker 1: are having a hard time believing him since he has
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  Speaker 1: already lied multiple times to them about Jamie. Looking at
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  Speaker 1: the angle where a man Jamie was meeting had harmed her,
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  Speaker 1: they look at whom she had been speaking to leading
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  Speaker 1: up to the nights she went missing. She was messaging
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  Speaker 1: several men about meeting up to have sex in exchange
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  Speaker 1: for money. All the men said that they never actually
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  Speaker 1: met up with Jamie except for one. He admitted to
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  Speaker 1: meeting her through Craig's List and that they met to
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  Speaker 1: have sex and then he left. They looked into his
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  Speaker 1: alibi and were able to confirm that he was where
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  Speaker 1: he said he was. They keep him on their radar,
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  Speaker 1: but pivot back to Justin. Justin hands over his laptop.
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  Speaker 1: He claimed he was on the internet all night until
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  Speaker 1: three a m. When he began looking for Jamie. They
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  Speaker 1: receive his cell phone records and find some shocking information.
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  Speaker 1: The cell towers where Justin's phone were pinging that night
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  Speaker 1: were the same ones that Jamie was pinging from, meaning
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  Speaker 1: that they were together all night, even at the time
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  Speaker 1: of her disappearance. They bring Justin back in and question
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  Speaker 1: him about the records. He denies being with Jamie and
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  Speaker 1: any involvement. After this conversation, Justin contacted a defense attorney
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  Speaker 1: and stops talking to Billy. A month goes by with
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  Speaker 1: no real breaks in the case, when a call comes
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  Speaker 1: into nine one one a female body had been found
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  Speaker 1: at fifty ninth in Douglas near Draper Lake. Investigators arrive
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  Speaker 1: on scene and find a woman brutally murdered, and they
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  Speaker 1: immediately knew that they were looking at Jamie Adams. In
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  Speaker 1: autopsy would show a brutal death. Her jaw was broken
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  Speaker 1: in two places and she was stabbed multiple times. It
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  Speaker 1: was definitely overkill. The violence of the death indicated it
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  Speaker 1: was personal and that the killer knew Jamie. Police are
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  Speaker 1: completely set on Justin as the killer and continue to
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  Speaker 1: look into him while his mother and attorney go to
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  Speaker 1: bed for him, doing interviews and professing his innocence. However,
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  Speaker 1: police discover that Justin had a one hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: life insurance on Jamie, giving him plenty of motive to
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  Speaker 1: kill his wife to relieve their financial issues. However, Justin
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  Speaker 1: denies knowing about the insurance policy. He said it was
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  Speaker 1: part of his millilitary package that he had just signed.
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  Speaker 1: They also discovered that in the month leading up to
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  Speaker 1: the murder, Jamie called police and was taken to a
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  Speaker 1: women's shelter for a few days, but she ultimately returned
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  Speaker 1: to Justin. This was due to them arguing. Justin's mom, Tina,
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that she had seen domestic violence going both ways.
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  Speaker 1: On top of all this, they find out that Justin
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  Speaker 1: had a new girlfriend within a week of Jamie going missing.
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  Speaker 1: When questioned about this, he said he was quote missing
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  Speaker 1: a woman's touch. With all this information, Justin is arrested
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  Speaker 1: and charged with two counts of first degree murder on
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  Speaker 1: the day of Jamie's funeral. He was denied Belle and
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  Speaker 1: would sit in jail until his trial. A private investigator
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  Speaker 1: joined Justin's team and pressed police to look into the
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  Speaker 1: other possibilities, but none panned out. Meanwhile, testing finally came
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  Speaker 1: in from some seamen found in Jamie's body. It did
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  Speaker 1: not match the DNA of any of the men they
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  Speaker 1: had samples from. There is one John that did not
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  Speaker 1: provide a sample but denied actually meeting up with They
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  Speaker 1: go back to this guy. His name is Joseph Syir.
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  Speaker 1: He was in the military and had a clean record.
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  Speaker 1: He denies being involved and will not produce a DNA sample.
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  Speaker 1: Without this, they need more information to get a warrant.
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  Speaker 1: They speak to his girlfriend and she said that she
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  Speaker 1: recalled seeing him around two am and everything seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be normal. However, the next morning, Joseph was washing his
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  Speaker 1: truck and changed all four tires. They were able to
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  Speaker 1: obtain a warrant for a DNA sample and it was
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  Speaker 1: a match. They drest Joseph Seir for first degree murder.
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  Speaker 1: Justin was not released free of charges. However, he ended
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  Speaker 1: up pleading guilty to first degree manslaughter for leading his
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  Speaker 1: wife into harm by aiding her prostitution. He was sentenced,
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  Speaker 1: but due to time served, he was released from jail.
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  Speaker 1: They also brought in the FBI to try to explain
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  Speaker 1: these cell phone records for Justin and Jamie being in
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  Speaker 1: the pinging off the same tower, and they found that
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  Speaker 1: it was a glitch in the cell carrier's system. They
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  Speaker 1: had them repull the records and it actually showed that
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  Speaker 1: Justin and Jamie were not in the same area. They
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  Speaker 1: believe that Joseph Sear became upset with Jamie when she
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  Speaker 1: asked him to use a condom. Joseph's girlfriend said that
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  Speaker 1: he was adamantly against condoms and would get angry if
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  Speaker 1: she asked to use one as well. They believe that
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  Speaker 1: he got upset with her and then beat her severely
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  Speaker 1: and then stabbed her and disposed of her body. Joseph
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  Speaker 1: was found guilty and sentenced to life without parole. All right,
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  Speaker 1: that's our case out of Oklahoma. I appreciate you listening. Again.
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