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The Converse Werewolf - American Werewolf & Dogman Legends · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Light By Movie.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good even everybody, it's the crypton Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for being here. My gosh,
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  Speaker 2: we have a wonderful show for you guys tonight. I
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  Speaker 2: am just fresh out of the vehicle. I've been in
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  Speaker 2: home from North Georgia in the mountains. I went big
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  Speaker 2: footing today, y'all. I went bigfooting and I ended up
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  Speaker 2: hanging out with some really cool older gentlemen who taught
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  Speaker 2: me how to do dowsing to find burial sites out
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  Speaker 2: in the woods. Today. Well, y'all, it was wild. Oh
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  Speaker 2: and I met up with doctor John Steamy today as well,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it a little bit tonight. But
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  Speaker 2: thank you guys for all your support. I saw y'all
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  Speaker 2: y'all over there, so it really made me feel good good.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guys so much for that. Well tonight,
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  Speaker 2: we have our very good friend Robbie Rains here in
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  Speaker 2: the studio tonight. Robbie is a co host of d
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  Speaker 2: A X Makina and I saw that unfortunately, DA has
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  Speaker 2: not been feeling well this weekend, so he canceled his shows,
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  Speaker 2: and I took that opportunity to see if Robbie wanted
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  Speaker 2: to come on with us tonight over here on the
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  Speaker 2: Krypton Hunter's Channel. I haven't seen Robbie in sometime, and
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  Speaker 2: he and I have actually done big footing together up
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  Speaker 2: in the North Georgia Mountains, and I just love Robbie
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  Speaker 2: to death. He's the coolest and and so I want
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  Speaker 2: to say I want to send DA all the best
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  Speaker 2: energies and say it, you know, everybody, let's send prayers
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  Speaker 2: his way and hope that he's feeling better. But I
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  Speaker 2: do have Robbie here in the studio tonight, and h
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  Speaker 2: and DA, we do love you. We hope you feel better.
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  Speaker 2: And tonight, you guys, we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 2: where wolves. All right, were wolves. There is a particular
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  Speaker 2: were wolf out of Texas that we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking about tonight. It's the converse werewolf. And we're also
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  Speaker 2: going to be talking about other were wolves as well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even the wear Wolves out a werewolf springs out
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Robbie and I had talked talked about that
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  Speaker 2: briefly a little bit in private, and tonight we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it potentially a little bit on the show,
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  Speaker 2: but we're going to really focus on American were wolves tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guys again, like I said, for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot Conference the past two years, and that's when he
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  Speaker 2: and I had gone out and did some bigfoot research together.
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  Speaker 2: We might have been surrounded by potentially some dog man
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  Speaker 2: actually the last time we were out there. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: our good friend. He's been here on the show. We're
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  Speaker 2: He is a good friend of mine. Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Have y'all heard of the converse Werewolf? I had not
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  Speaker 2: heard about this very much until our good friend Kenny Thibodeau,
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  Speaker 2: who is with the North American dog Man Project. He
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  Speaker 2: and I do bi weekly shows together on his channel
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  Speaker 2: is called star Fox Underscore Media on YouTube. And so
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  Speaker 2: he was telling me about the converse Werewolf on one
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  Speaker 2: of our shows that we did recently, and so tonight
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  Speaker 2: we are going to be covering that and much more.
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  Speaker 2: The converse where Wolf is kind of a coming of
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  Speaker 2: age story that went terribly wrong. Terribly wrong. Legend says
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  Speaker 2: that during the eighteen hundreds, a Texas rancher wanted his
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  Speaker 2: fifteen year old son to come of age and become
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  Speaker 2: a man, so he instructed him to go out into
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  Speaker 2: the woods and unlive a deer for the family to eat.
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  Speaker 2: And the boy went out and after a few days
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  Speaker 2: he did not come home. A search party was formed
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  Speaker 2: to locate him, and eventually the rancher heard a noise
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  Speaker 2: in the distance, and he went towards that noise, hoping
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  Speaker 2: it was his son, and he found an eight foot
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  Speaker 2: tall creature that looked like a cross between a large
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  Speaker 2: ape and a wolf, and it was eating his son.
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  Speaker 2: According to legend, he fired shots at the creature and
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  Speaker 2: the creature ran off into the woods, but it was
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  Speaker 2: too late to save his son. He did pass away,
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  Speaker 2: and the grief stricken rancher did pass away of a
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  Speaker 2: broken heart. Some say that he had unlived himself. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: it is a horrible story. It's really sad, but it's
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  Speaker 2: right there in the heart of the dog Man triangle
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  Speaker 2: out there in Texas. And so tonight we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be looking into the Converse. It's called the Converse Werewolf.
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  Speaker 2: This was in a place called Converse, Texas, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to look into this an other dog man of
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  Speaker 2: werewolf cases from all over the South, all over the country.
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  Speaker 2: Really with our good friend Robbie Rains. Let's see. Let
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  Speaker 2: me read Robbie's bio real quick, because he's a police
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  Speaker 2: officer and he had his first first bigfoot experience as
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  Speaker 2: a child. He's an active field researcher, investigator, and tracker.
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  Speaker 2: He is a co host of d a X Makina podcast.
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  Speaker 2: He's a police officer out of South Carolina, and like
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  Speaker 2: I said, he and I have actually done some research together.
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  Speaker 2: We've done some boots on the groundwork and had we've
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  Speaker 2: been in some sticky situations together. Please help me. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the show, mister Robbie rains. I just what's up, Robbie.
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  Speaker 3: H oh, same old Sam.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? You've been busy. I've been busy, just
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  Speaker 2: like you've been busy. You've been busy. You've got a
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  Speaker 2: new a new company, or you've had this company since
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  Speaker 2: you've been in.
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  Speaker 3: An addition, a new addition to the company. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: expanding a little bit. Uh uh d A and I
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  Speaker 3: kind of uh brainchild an idea. I'd always wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be a blacksmith. That was kind of part of the
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  Speaker 3: what got me into the woodwork, and I needed to
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  Speaker 3: I need something supplement to build, to buy the blacksmith tools,
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  Speaker 3: and then the woodwork and just kind of took over.
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  Speaker 3: So it kind of got put on the back burner.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, some of y'all you've heard me talk of Tyler,
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  Speaker 3: my daughter's boyfriend. He and I were talking and he, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he used to do it a little bit. So we
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  Speaker 3: just kind of got talking, Hey, why don't we start
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  Speaker 3: adding adding that to the to the Lone Wolf customs.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got talking to da about what we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about doing. He and did and I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: come up with this idea, Hey, why don't we base
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  Speaker 3: some of the blades on some of the characters in
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  Speaker 3: the book in DA's books. So it's just kind of
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: went from there, and uh yeah, snowballed for sure. So
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  Speaker 3: Tyler and I have been working our butts off in
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  Speaker 3: my garage to turn it into a into a forge Ford.
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  Speaker 2: So actually, so you're actually making the knives. I thought
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  Speaker 2: you were maybe just leaser and graving knives, but you're actually.
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  Speaker 3: Making knives, making them and laser engraving them.
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  Speaker 2: Dang, Robbie, no wonder. You're busy. You're so busy. I
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  Speaker 2: love it. I love it. In addition, you're also you're
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  Speaker 2: also a cop.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. I also work for a full time job,
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  Speaker 3: so my weekends are usually pretty packed. That's usually when
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  Speaker 3: I visit the UPS store and send off orders and
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  Speaker 3: you buy stuff and work on stuff, and yeah, it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: And and you guys are super busy over there at
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: d a X making a podcast. Man, you guys are
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: putting on some great shows and having some great guests
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  Speaker 2: on y'all. Had y'all had Fred on the other night.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well, he was supposed to be on, but something happened.
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  Speaker 3: His dad got sick and ended up taking to the hospital,
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  Speaker 3: so he never got a chance to make it on.
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  Speaker 2: Me spreading man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's uh he. I think he got back in
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  Speaker 3: touch with d a U day before yesterday and said
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  Speaker 3: that he was gonna come back on. I think, uh.
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  Speaker 3: We talked to Jesus the other day to peon he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be back on.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Jesus and I have done some good shows together.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one that really opened up. He opened me
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  Speaker 2: up to the the hidden history of our country. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just you know, I know he's really into big
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  Speaker 2: Foot and h and other cryptids, but he he and
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: I did some really cool souls shows on star Forts
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  Speaker 2: and timeline deception. Like with was like we didn't talk
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  Speaker 2: about the mud flood or anything, but we talked about
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  Speaker 2: how there were like big cities built when we're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be like all in horse and buggies and the
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  Speaker 2: wild West, but really there's like these Greek and Roman
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  Speaker 2: architecture like buildings all over the country and stuff. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of knowledge.
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  Speaker 3: On and I sat down at one conference where we
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  Speaker 3: were at and he was going through pictures and showed
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  Speaker 3: me and he got pictures that blow your mind. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he'll be back on so were he was gonna be
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  Speaker 3: on the other night, but he ended up having something
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  Speaker 3: to do. So he's like, he said, I'll get back
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  Speaker 3: with you, so I gotta text him. I probably text
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  Speaker 3: to tomorrow as a matter of fact, and get that
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  Speaker 3: set up. So yeah, he'll be back on the show. Uh.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: We got a part two coming up of our really
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: interesting show about the tie ins between Atlantis and uh Antarctica.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: We went and Hollow Earth theory we went. We went
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: down a big time rabbit hole the day on that one.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: And we've also started our Sunday night series called Campfire Stories,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: where we're reading DA's books and short stories and things
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: like that. We just finished up uh book his very
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: first book, Ragging Rock Rising Awakening, and we last Sunday
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  Speaker 3: we started on book two, The Crucible. So we're just
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: going back through some of his first because you know,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people in there who had never
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: really even been aware of his first series. A lot
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: of people didn't come into you know, the Wild Hunt
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: or you know, the Dark Frontier series. So we got
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: to talk to us, let's go back and start reading
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  Speaker 3: the first books again. So we've been doing that and
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: we do that on Sunday nights. Oh yeah, we do
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  Speaker 3: three shows a week now.
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  Speaker 2: I tune in, and that's that's awesome. I'm so excited,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I do for four live shows a
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  Speaker 2: week over here now too. And so we've we've all
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: kind of up the game a little bit because it's
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  Speaker 2: so much fun. I know, you guys, you put your
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  Speaker 2: heart and soul into what y'all do over there, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: and so I feel you. I feel you, and I
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  Speaker 2: try to be there as much as I can to
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  Speaker 2: support too. And and so I'm happy to see you guys.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope that Da feels better.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, I think he's he's just, uh, he's kind
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  Speaker 3: of burning the candle at both ends. He's got so
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: many stories running around. He's trying to he's trying to
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: get everything, you know. So you know, if y'all want
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: to help him out, go buy a book. Don't help
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  Speaker 3: him out much as anything good. He just the Heart
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  Speaker 3: of Iron series. Yeah, I'm serious. I'm not a big
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  Speaker 3: sword and I like the movies, but I'm not wanting
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  Speaker 3: to read the Sword and Sorcery book. But the Heart
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  Speaker 3: of Iron is phenomenal and it ties into the main
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  Speaker 3: universe too, and it it's just it's amazing. You know
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  Speaker 3: you've laughed before because you've heard me and dot call
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  Speaker 3: him the uh what's the nickname? The It left me
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  Speaker 3: as soon as uh anyway, he's a tom Clans hecrypted. There,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I need come the tom Clants. He crypted
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  Speaker 3: and so this this kind of made him the uh
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the what's the guy who wrote codan? Yeah, the co
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  Speaker 3: This kind of put him in in in that realm.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, go check him out. Dave robert uh.
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  Speaker 2: Dot net. Yes, all the times he's been on my
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  Speaker 2: show is always typed it in d A. Roberts dot net.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys please go and support him too. We
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  Speaker 2: got to support our authors, the people who support the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: cryptic community and who are a big part of the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: crypto community. And he's also in boots on the ground
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  Speaker 2: field researcher too, just like you and I Robbie.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 3: We're Doc and I are in the midst of planning
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  Speaker 3: a trip up there, hopefully end of February, end of
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  Speaker 3: January first February, So we got some stuff going on
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  Speaker 3: that uh hopefully we'll be able to because I have
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  Speaker 3: yet to go up there to Missouri and not get
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of something. I mean that that's a
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  Speaker 3: that is an interesting place. I sent you pictures of
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  Speaker 3: the from Colin's ferry the next morning of that deer
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  Speaker 3: that was dismembered. I mean, it's amazing at that point
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  Speaker 3: in that place.
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  Speaker 2: You did, I was really crazy. And also, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I've had ed testament on my show and Eric, Eric,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: what's up? Eric? If you're watching, Eric is so super cool.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: He said that he I think DA's planning on coming
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  Speaker 2: out there and doing some paranormal investigations with him, and
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  Speaker 2: he had me remote view something. He gave me a
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  Speaker 2: blind target and maybe maybe I can get him to
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  Speaker 2: come on the show soon and talk about that because
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  Speaker 2: I remote viewed something for him and I sent it
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  Speaker 2: to him and turned out to be a location that
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  Speaker 2: he and DA are planning on investigating together. So it's haunted.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like a jail or something. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of a lot of unalivings there
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  Speaker 2: according to my data.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, thank god, I think I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: And if it's where I'm thinking, then yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: pretty bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it was. It's actually that data was really weird
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  Speaker 2: lake side.
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  Speaker 3: Laura.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Laura, she says, you got to tell me where
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  Speaker 2: to camp in southern Missouri. I'm right in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Uh oh, I don't know where to camp and that
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  Speaker 2: that's like where the Ozark Howler hangs out, Laura.
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  Speaker 3: Just so you know, I'm tell you where not the camp.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know about where to camp. I can definitely
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: tell you where not the camp. Yeah. Well, I mean
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: even if you could, you wouldn't want to go camp
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: at Joe bald or Commisary. But you you can't camp
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: with those places anyway. But those are Joe.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Bald Well, Joe bald that's that side area where.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Remote you that one.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: A long camp A long time ago. I did. I've
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I've actually included that in some of my presentations I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: give a conferences. It's so I think that's I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that's a really good key piece of information for the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: disclosure community because I did have a lot of like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: underground facility data and stuff like that in addition to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the dog men. There's a lot of stuff going on there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And if anybody wants to see what we're talking about,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the video that she's talking about, it's on our YouTube
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: channel and Dax Makina go look Joe Ball breakdown video
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and you can see the thing in that. Jessica's seen
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the video. You can see the thing in the tree
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: behind d a yes, and it will scare that, you
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: know what out of you.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You can see his hand. It looks like to me
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: almost look like a goat man or something. When I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: first saw it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: It to me, that is that is complete total dog
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: man man, dog man, werewolf, whatever you want to call it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Because when that hand comes around that tree, I mean
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you can clearly it looks like an oversized raccoon's hand
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: with the big claws. I mean, you can, oh get
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Coach was thinking about it. I mean the first time
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I went there, we went right to that that bridge,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and of course you know me, Jessica, you know exactly
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: what I did off up in the woods. I went
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: pitch black, dead, just like it was dead quiet when
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that thing come out or those things come out. The
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: first time we were there, that's it. We stepped out
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: of the car and it was like that and silent.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, up into a vacuum. You could hear stuff
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: like across the lake, which is miles and miles away.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You could hear stuff going on, but right where we
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: were at, right there in the Joe Bald area. Nothing really.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: That's the night that we got out there with the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: twenty four hour service fans and we found the footprint,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the big sixteen seventeen inch footprint. We were gonna go
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: back and cast it next morning. Come back next morning.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: There's tire track through it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, cover up for sure. Guess where I
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: was today, Robbie. I was up. I was in the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: same location. I didn't go to the same location where
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you and I have been, but I was in the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: same region. I was in the same area today. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: let's see, I'm going to show some pictures real quick,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: because I met a new friend today. I met a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: couple of new friends today, as a matter of fact,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and one of them was an older gentleman. I was
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: introduced to him as being a Bill. But then right
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: when I was leaving, he told me his name was Bob.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm confused, So I'm gonna call it Billy Bob tonight. Okay,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: so Billy Bob. You guys might might recognize this guy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you do or not. But we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: were up at an area that's a doctor John Steamy
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: right there. And this is Billy my friend Bob or
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Bill Bill, I'm gonna call it Biller Bob. Okay, Biller Bob.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Right here he is a dowser. And this is an
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: old cemetery actually that holds I guess it's Civil War
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: era soldiers and stuff right here in this old cemetery
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: right by his house's in the middle of the woods
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: up in North Georgia and U and he was actually
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: dowsing and showing me and showing us how to locate
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: grave sites with dowsing rods and so Robbie, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with like dowsing and finding water sources.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I've watched my great grandfather that years and years and
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: years ago for water.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: For water well he but he okay, so he took
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: it a step further today and he was teaching me
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: how to find running water and steal water and all
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: these different types of waters and the difference when you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: dowsing for it. He's he's a retired electrician. He worked
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: for all these different companies throughout his entire life. A
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: fascinating man. But he has located hundreds of wells.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: W E. L.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: L s All across North Georgia where he lives for decades,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and he's he's very accurate, and those in dowsing, it
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: is just it's amazing. He was. He actually took a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: piece of paper out of his pocket and it was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a post it note. He had drawn a little line
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: with a number two pencil, so it had lead on it,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: and he put it on the ground and he walked
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: over and he said, watch these these dowsing rods are
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: going to move and indicate when I go over this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: little piece of paper with the lead in it. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it did. It was wild like dowsing. People made diss dowsing,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I've been called a witch before
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: for doing less, okay than just do housing. But dowsing
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: is a very old, ancient tradition of a way to
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: find water and stuff. Okay, my dad did it with
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a stick.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I've watched my great grandfather do it. I can remember
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: watching him do it. And it works. How it works,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I assume it's got something to do
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: with uh, electromagnetic fields. It does, but but it works
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: if you know how to do it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It does. And actually he actually took a bottle of
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: water and he put it on the ground, and it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: didn't really indicate anything was happening when he went over
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it with his dowsing rods. But then he shook up
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the bottle bottle of water. He shook it up really fast,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and he put it back on the ground and he
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: did he went over it with the dowsing rods, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: it indicated there was an anomaly there. And so so
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: he started explaining the protons and the neutrons and electrons
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and everything, and it just it made sense. So anyways,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just something with you know, it's just
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: an indicator on how to find anomalies, I guess. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it was really cool. But I learned how to find
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: hidden buried gravesite today. So uh yeah. And and and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that area that's where he has big foot encounters, Robbie
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the cemetery. He for decades, he's been having big foot
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: encounters there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, especially especially when you start talking about
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: burial mounds, you know, Native American burial mounds. How many
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: dog men slash werewolf whatever you want to call them
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: sightings or linked to burial mounds. So I mean a
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: lot there's there is always some kind of connection with
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: with something like that. In these cryptids are a lot
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: of them anyway, because I mean look at Old green Eyes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: You know, you and I died a show on that
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: death destruction there it was. There's been plenty of others
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: almost exactly like that. I mean, go back and look
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: at some of the some of the stories from back
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and I'm talking way back, like before bigfoot was a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: popular term, before any of this stuff, you know, back
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: in the dawn written time. Basically there's stories of things
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: just like Old green Eyes. Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Old green Eyes is weird too. It's like even Okay,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So I brought Greg Smith on my show with Backwoods Cryptids,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and he lives in Chickamauga and his specialty is researching
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Old green Eyes and uh and when we were talking,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it was a wonderful interview, but he he kept telling me,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, we still don't know what Old green
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Eyes is. It could be a dog man, it could
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be a gugwey, it could be a werewolf, could be
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a big foot, it could be something supernatural. He just
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Well and correct me if I'm wrong, But there is
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: multiple different descriptions of what it looks like. Yes, what
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: people have seen to me that that lends to either
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: there's I see that. There's probably possibly two explanations. One
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: is some type of supernatural thing that just takes on
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: whatever form it wants to, or that's just that's just
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a place that draws cryptis in. We got to talking
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: about that when we were down when I was at
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: in the LBL with Woodwalkers for their little meet and Greek.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: You know, when we were Johnny and I were there.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: We were gonna go live on DAX mocking out everything was.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: We were on thirty minutes before the show checking everything out.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Tyler had eighty percent battery on his laptop. Everything was
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: working fine, we had plenty of signal. Show goes live,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: DA's like, hey, folks, how you doing? Does this little
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: thing and gets to me and says, so tell us
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: what's going on, Robbie and I got I I get
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: half a word out of my mouth and everything just dies.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I mean like that battery died on Tyler's laptop. We
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: lost service everything. Get a battery pack that had one
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: hundred percent on it, plug it in drains. Immediately, we
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: had to bring a car down there and run a
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: drop cord from a car with a power verd that
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was running to actually keep power going to the laptop. Weird.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: So while we're after we finally got everything back on,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: we start looking. Gotta find out that's a vortex. There's
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: like three lay lines that run through LBL. It's awfully interesting.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. I can't wait to go to LBL.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: That's on my list. It's on my list of things
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to do in twenty twenty five. And one of my
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: team's critget Warfare. We're I think we're planning a trip
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: there next year. So I don't know. I think there's
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of places with the vor Texas and stuff
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and lay lines, Okay, lay lines the war Texas. The
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: place I went camping about I'm gonna say about twelve
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: years ago up in Cashers, North Carolina, where I was
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I was watching the space the sky ships over Cashers.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: One weekend, like two or three nights in a row,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: we watched these UFOs come in and they they kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of hovered over the mountain that we were camped out
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: on for the entire night. Every night we were there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And Chief David, who I was with, he's an elder
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of the Cherokee up there. He was he was calling
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: them in like he had like a rod was like
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a it was like a staff with like a crystal
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: on it or something, and he would call them in.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: He was like, well, these are my people. I'm from
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the stars, is what he would tell me. And and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: he would call those things in and they would show
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: up every single time up there. But while we were
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: up there, a lot of weird stuff that happened. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: he taught me to stand in a certain point on
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: top of that mountain and he said, Jessica, this is
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a vortex. And when I stood on it, I got
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: dizzy and and it started kind of making a little
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: bit more sense as to why we had so much
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: activity there, because there was like a supernatural type of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a vortex or like a portal rad there.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, and I think I think it's down obviously,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: if you're more susceptible or not susceptible. And I don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: want to say open, because you know I'm not closed mind,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: but you know that, so maybe susceptible is a better word,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: because like you, when you were up there, Marty, at
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the place where me and you went, y'all had like
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: what time displacement and all this kind of stuff that happened,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: but the same place. Nothing I mean other than what
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: we went through with the creatures that were there. I mean,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: it was just there was nothing other than nothing abnormal
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: other than that to me anyway, So I think the
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: person has a lot to do with the experience. Well,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and think about it just in terms of the cryptid stuff.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Think about you know, you and I have had went
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: out twice and we've had two encounters. Ye, me and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: d A one or three or four times, we've had
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: three or four encounters. That that's that's the equivalent of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the cryptid lottery, because how many people go out in
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the woods and spend years and never have So I
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: think people like you and me d A were open
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: minded to it. But it's a mindset too, so I think. Plus,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: it's just like the tracking thing. Once your eyes are
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: open to what you're supposed be looking for, it's there.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And I've used that analogy, like you get if you
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: get a new car. It's like you never see that
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: car on the road, but you get that new car
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: and every other car you pass is the same car.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: You're driving your new car because your your mind is
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: looking for it. And I think it's almost a reverse
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: psychology thing that people If people are not open to
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: seeing these cryptids, if they see a big black shape
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: running across a field while they're on the road, automatically
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: their brain says bear, no matter what it is, oh,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: look at the bear. So how many bear sightings have
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: actually been cryptid sightings? You know? You always hear, oh,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: it's a misidentified bear when somebody says it was bigfoot,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Oh it's a misidentified bear. How many bears that people say, Oh,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I saw a bear the other day. What even a bear?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: People don't think about it in terms like that, because
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: if you're closed minded, you're automatically thinking, oh, that was
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a bear, that's all it could have been.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a lot of people don't want it. It's
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: not even in there. It's not even the spectrum of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: possibility for most people. And so it has to be
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a bear. It has to be some sort of like
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: a dog or a wolf or something like that. But
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you and I, Okay, so we're gonna be
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: talking about were wolves tonight. But you and I had
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: two separate experiences with different energies. Let's just say same
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: same type of of us like it was the same.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: It was the same uh what do you call it was?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: It was almost like the same thing happened both years
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that we were out.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: There, but everything except for what was around us is
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: That's how.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I exactly, I'm trying to figure out how to like
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: explain that because what the first year it was like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: shocking to us kind of a little bit because it
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: was like we're we're talking really loud and the crickets
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: were really loud. We couldn't figure out I've never heard
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the bugs be that loud out there before. We were
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: kind of screaming over the bugs to each.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Other people that it was like we were in a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: concert and we were having we were like what three
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: feet apart maybe if that even, and having I mean
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: just like really you know, talk as loud as we could,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: just so we could hear each other. And it was
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, just like that, it goes from
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: like one hundred and forty decimals to nothing to.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Nothing, and we're still screaming, but.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: It got quiet. That's one of them eerie what the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: heck just happened? Moments?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what just happened?
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Kit? Thank you so much? Just what just happened? Moments?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: What just happened. Kit, Thank you so much. That is
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: so sweet of you, says Merry Christmas, Jessica, get something
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: really cool for your son. Oh my god, that is
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: so sweet. Thank you, Ken back, sir. I appreciate that
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: so much. My son will appreciate that too, be Sime.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You know, my son actually asked me. I know he's
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: watching he right now, So I'm just gonna say what
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: He was, what was that? Ben?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: He said, Mom, don't worry. I don't want you to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: buy me anything expensive for Christmas this year. Santa Claus
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is going to get me all the expensive stuff. Okay. So,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: so I can't wait for see what Santa Claus brings
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: them this year.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: He's a smart kid.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: He's a sweet boy. Man, he's a sweet boy. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: so were you. kN I appreciate you so much. That's amazing,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Okay, So that experience that you
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and I had was so it wasn't shocking, okay to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: me at all. But we were surrounded by something that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: seemed to be kind of more benevolent than benevolent. Okay.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it was there to hurt us,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but we didn't know, you know, eventually we decided to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: go back down to the truck because we felt like
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: we were being surrounded.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and every good thing up until the point where
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: we felt like there was something on the other side
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: of your car. We never felt like it was any
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: But you're like, I think there's something out there, maybe
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: we're we don't want, we don't need to get cut
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: off from the car, And I think you're right. But
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: it still never felt anything other than just curiosity. That's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: how I perceived it. It was whatever there was curious.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It was very curious, totally different, almost identical. But in
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: one night on com in Combe's ferry, it went from
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: curiosity to okay, you crossed the line territory. Yeah, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: it's when we passed that deer hide and that fish
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: head there's Larry asked the question earlier and if he
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: thought we were they were baiting us a note that
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: was a territorial marker, and that was don't cross this,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and of course you know what we did. We crossed it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: We got to right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Of course there you climb that mountain because it was there, cross.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Cross that line a little bit, but don't go too far, Okay,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: if you want the experience of it. So I feel you,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I know, I know exactly how it is. I have
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the utmost respect for the cryptids out there because I
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: want them to respect me too. And it's a it's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: a two way it's a two way game out there. Okay,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: if you want their respect, you got to respect them.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And so that's what I do. I don't go out
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: there like provoking and stuff, you know, but I put
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: myself in the in the middle of their territory. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that's that's kind of provoking in its own right, don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Because if if you don't understand and this that
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: this goes the same way with any predator, not just
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: these cryptids. You have to understand nature in general. If
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: you go out and you don't understand what you're out,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: it's like if you go swim in the ocean and
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you don't understand when you should and shouldn't swim in
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: the ocean and what, then you're opening yourself up for
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: something bad to happen. Same thing with going in the woods.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: If you don't know what types of snakes are around,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: if you don't know what other types of big predators
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: are there, you know, what types of birds? Could you
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: hear what other kind of you know things, can you
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: hear that? Because you need to know what because you
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: see something strange on the ground and you think, oh,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: what kind of track is that and you don't know
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: what what's in the area. You have to look at
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: everything when you're going out. I want people to go
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: out and I want people to experience stuff like like
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: we do, but you need to be safe and do
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: it the right way. That's my soapbox on that got to.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Be safe safety first. Okay, So you and I actually
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: went back the next year. Okay, it's like we waited
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a whole year to hang out again. Okay, but which
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: came back and we went to the same exact spot
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and we had the almost identical experience, but it was
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a completely different energy out there, and you felt it
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and I felt it. We had my kid out there
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: What even Ben? Yeah, And if you think about that,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I was looking one direction, Ben was looking in another direction,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and you were looking a completely different direction, and we
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: all three saw something. We all we saw the same thing.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: We didn't ever say anything right then and there what
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: we were all seeing, but we all saw pretty much
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: the same thing. We were all seeing these things moving
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: around just out just in that shadow. You know, we're
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: it was just out of your out of your field division,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: or not your field division, but out of your range
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: of vision.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: YEP, they knew what they were doing, but it didn't
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: feel like Bigfoot this time. It felt like something different.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: It didn't feel right. Of course, my son was saying
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: s Walker's he was like skin Walker's mom. And you
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you had more of a dog man feeling. I was
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: kind of on the fence of like either aggressive bigfoot
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: or maybe dog men. That's what I was thinking.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Which was deep. It was weird because I never felt
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: like that before.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Out there, I felt I felt that exact same feeling
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: three times now, and I think all three times were
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: once with me, you and Ben, once in the L
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: B L and once in Missouri with d A and Noah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And all three times I think we were being hunted.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I think we were being hunted that night. See you
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: never turned around and looked and saw them coming at us,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: because you and Ben were going already going out of
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: the car. I remember I was turned around watching back.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: When I turned back around, and like I've told people,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: when they asked, well, what did you see? I said,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: have you seen the movie Underworld? And most people like, yeah,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the very first one when Selene's in that hall of
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: that apartment complex, and those were wolves, likings whatever you
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: wanna call them, or jumping around on the ceilings and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: on the walls and on the floors. When I turned
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: back around after I you know, I told yall, I said,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: let's go, and I turned back around to watch our backs.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I saw three or four of those things bouncing all
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: over the place, coming down at us. And when I
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: turned around, they stopped. And when they stopped it it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: like they just they blended into the shadows. H And
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: that's when I turned my head over his shoulder. I said,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: go to the car, get the keys, get in, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: get it cranked. Now if you remember me saying that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: And I spent the rest of the rest of the
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: time walking down the hill facing looking back, and that
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I actually cleared leather and was pointing at that point.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I saw it too, and and and just to let
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the whole entire audience know, my son was completely safe.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I made sure we got him down to the truck
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: and threw him in there and locked the doors, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: he was fine. Okay, he was fine, nothing was going
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to happen to him. We weren't expecting that to happen that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one and only time that I
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: have seen something get that close. Yeah, and you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: that's just how I feel. I felt like we were
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: being hunted. I know, you said, you say, stought that's
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: what you found. And I turned around and look and
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: the posture and the stance and the movement. That's just
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: that was just what it felt like to me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It did. Yeah. I mean, I was actually on dog
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Man encounters last night with vik Kunduff, and that's just
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: something that I didn't mention. I didn't mention that last
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: night about that because you know, I I don't know
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: if I've ever really had a dog man experience, but
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: if I did, if if I ever have, that would
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: have been a dog man experience, I think, and I'm
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: not positive that was dog men, but that would be
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the one experience I've ever had where I do believe
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: that was There's a fifty to fifty chance that was
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: dog man for sure, at least fifty to fifty probably more.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: It was something different for sure.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I feel like Joe Ball that night
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: with me and Da and no, we're down there. That
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: not the Robbie Wrangler was born. Noah became the Robbie Wrangler. Yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: that was same feeling, same movements, same everything was the
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: same same thing that night in LBL. The way that
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: things were happening, the way it felt felt like we
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: were trying to be kind of herded for lack of
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a better term.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Wed that's a good point. Yeah, we were like there
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: were like like Australian shepherds and we were like the whatever,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you know, livestock there. That's what it was. We were
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: being herded back to our car. It was for our
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: own safety. I think it really was, so I need
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to say that. But that's true at least because you
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: know it is because I look back on that a
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: lot and I think about it, and I'm thinking it
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: was probably because my son was there, and he's a kid, Okay,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Like I did not think that it would be like
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I've never you know, I don't take him out to
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: like the research areas where we have like real like
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: any dangerous spots. I never I've never taken that as
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a very dangerous spot. Before that night. It was kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of you know, it's like we we were instructed to
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: get him out of there is what that was. That's
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: what that was. That's how I took it. And uh,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you were there with me because it feels
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: good to have a law enforcement official there with me
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: to have my back, you know. And uh, and that's
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: how it was that that first time that we went
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: out there together to And it is the people. It's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: not just and it, it's the area and and and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the reason we do have a lot of activity out
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: there is because we know there's activity there. Okay, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: know there is, and so that's why that's why we
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: went there. Okay, but it's us. But it's because of us.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: And and that's what I'm saying because I don't think
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you have to have an area too,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: like you said, yeah, but how many people go to
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: hot spots throughout like they'll be how many people go
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: through they'll be l every day and not every one
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: of them see something or has an encounter, but not
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: they're not all out there looking for it either. That
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: don't all know what to look for. They're not out
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: there at the right times. And you know, it's like fishing.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's why they call it fishing. They don't
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: call it catching. That's why they call it hunting. They
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: don't call it. You know, you have to be in
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: the right mind front of mindset. You have to have
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: everything lined up, but you also have to be you know, open.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I can't. I hate to keep using that term open
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: minded because true, but you have to be. I mean,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: if you go out there expecting to not see anything
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: and like there's nothing out here, I'll never see anything,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: You're not You're not gonna see it.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, right, keep an open mind about it for sure. Foreshore,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Now let's get into let's get into a little bit
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of this werewolf talk tonight because you know we're we're
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: kind of setting the tone for you know, you and
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I potentially of having a dog man encounter. Okay, multiples.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just one, uh both both times that you
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and I have been out in the field together, we
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: have been by multiple creatures from bigfoot to potential dog men.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And there is a case out of Texas and this
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: is something I had not heard of before. I want
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: to give full credit to my buddy Kenny Thibodeau. He
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and I do shows every other week with the North
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: American dog Man Project and Uh, oh, he's with them,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and I do a show on his channel. Actually, so
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not their channel, but it's his channel.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And so he brought up the converse werewolf and this
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: is from the eighteen hundreds, and Robbie, you and I
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: both know that there's a lot of newspaper articles from
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: back in the eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: of wild men and.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Wild Man Harryman, wild man of Borneo.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like I like to say, and
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I've said this where I've gotten myself in trouble. Like
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: at the Georgia Bigfoot conference, they had a reporter from
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the newspaper office there and I was like, you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: back when they used to tell the truth with the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: newspaper paper articles. That guy got mad at me.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: You get mad.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: He called me out after the thing. He was like, well,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you know, some of us are some of us are
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: still honest, Jessica. So I felt bad. I was referring
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, CNN and stuff. I don't know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just media in general. But he was
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: he was, he was nice. I'm sure he tells the truth, but.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Out there, somewhere there's some supporters.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: But yes, yes, as long as it's not like big media.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Is that what you call it, like the big media?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But see back in the back in the eighteen hundreds,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: they just had small newspaper companies. You know, they were
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: in every town and uh and we we saw newspaper
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: companies in every town just about. But it's not as
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: prominent because we have the internet. We have our cell
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: phones now and we have access to everything in our
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: phones laptops. Okay, so anyways, let's just say back in
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds, there were a lot of reports of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: hairy men, wild men things like that. Well, there are
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: also stories of were wolves. They called them were wolves,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: giants and were wolves and all sorts of stuff. But
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: there's there's a some cases out of Texas now, Robbie,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, there's a lot of dog man reports
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: out of Texas to this day. Goatmen are prevalent. Dog
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: men are prevalent, and were wolves are prevalent. And pterodactyls.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: M yeah, the dog man triangle and were wolves. Well,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: back in the eighteen hundreds, there was a case it
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: was called the they call it the converse werewolf because
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: it was a place in Bear County. And you guys know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: if you've been watching my show, we had Rod Nikels
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: here who was with Bear County Bigfoot, and he's we
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: talked about the dog Man triangle when he came on
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: my show. Lots of werewolf and dog Man reports out
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: of that area. He is an active boots on the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: ground field researcher when it comes to bigfoot. But we
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: talked about dog Man that day. And this case is
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: from the eighteen hundreds. Now this is a legend, okay. There.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I could not find any newspaper articles on this, Okay.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find any kind of real hardcore evidence of
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: this really happened, just passed down oral tradition. I gonna say,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: tradition stories. And there's a particular author that had written
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: an article about it, wrote a story about it. See here,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I can't see well at night, so good luck with
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: me reading us. Let's see. There was a story written
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: by Michael Mays. His name is Mays. Michael Mays, Okay, eminem,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: all right. He wrote a story about this and it
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: was and it's kind of like on the slant of
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: like folklore. But many people say this really happened this
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: is a true story. And a lot of times, Robbie,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: we both know that a lot of legends and lore
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: are true events.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Especially I've said multiple times before on our show that
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: every legend, every folklore tale is based in true somewhere.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: There's no matter how small or how big, there's truth
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: in every one of these legends and folk lores. And
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just how it is. I don't think
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: anybody was out there and just started making stuff up.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, there somebody saw something. May
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: not have been what it's turned out to be later on,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: but somebody saw something that started all these legends that
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: we have.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something did. I mean, they don't. They don't just
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: you know, show up out of nowhere. There's some sort
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: of truth behind most legends, Uh, even pig Man and stuff.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: When I was growing up, I mean I found some
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: truth behind it once you start doing the research and
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you start digging into stuff. I mean I used to.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I used to do stories like with my mass media
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: class and with local legends and lore around my hometown,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and uh, and we would go we we'd hear about
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: these things. We'd go at night to go get chased
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: by by pig man out. I'm just gonna say, at
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Villa Rica, Georgia. Okay, there's a place called Villareca, Georgia.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I know I'm not pronouncing that's how we pronounce it
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: here in the South, Villa Rica, and uh, And there
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: was a pig man there. And the story went, you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that there was a man that had unalives his entire
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: family and buried him under the front room of his
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: house and all this stuff that just it sounded just fantastical.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: It sounded crazy, right, But we would go we'd get
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: chased out from behind his house. Something would run at
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: us every time, you know, we'd go out there. And
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: so I took my camera crew out there. We had
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: a little camera, went out there. We started digging into
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: the research of it. We found out that yeah, there
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: was some bad stuff that happened at that house. Took
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: my camera out there and made a little video about it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And sure enough, the front room was the There was
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: a hole in the floor of this house and it
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: was dug down like six to eight feet down into
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: the ground like bodies had been dug up from this. Okay,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: so it was wild, so like something that was just
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: legend and lore I think it probably really happened. Okay,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: like it probably really at least elements of this were
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: true of these stories. And so that's why I think
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that the converse Werewolf. I think that this could be
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a true story. I think it could.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know what we were talking about earlier.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I know where my train of thought goes with it
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: and what I think it is that he saw. And
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: you know, we've talked about the misidentifications before, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I think it goes I think goes further than just saying, oh,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: that Bigfoot was a bear or that that thing I
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: saw was a bear or anything like that. I think
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: misidentifications of people who were actually believers in Cryptis happened
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: a lot more than than is thought about. Yea, I
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: personally think what the guy ran across. I don't know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: you want me to get into it now and say it,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: or you want to hold it off for a second,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: or I think it was a good way.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I was thinking too. Actually, the converse Werewolf.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. Okay, let's get into the story
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: about it. Okay, we're almost an hour into the show.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Let's finally get into what we're talking about today. We
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: just had a lot of catching up to do, y'all.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I hadn't seen Robbie in so long, so we had
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to catch up. So let's get into it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Well, anybody to send the chaps that listens to us
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: understands this.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: That's how we get. That's how we roll, y'all, And
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that's how Robbie and Da roll to over there over
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: on y'all's channel. I love it. Well, everybody, y'all understand,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: it's all good. It's Saturday night. I've been bigfooting all
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: day and locating graves with dowsing rods today. So okay,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad i'm here tonight. I'm glad you're here
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: with me. Okay. So in the eighteen hundreds, a Texas
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: rancher moved to Converse, Texas. Now, he had a little
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: boy who was fifteen. He had just come of age.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: He was coming of age, and he wanted his kid
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: to be a man, to do manly stuff, and so
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: he sent his son out into the woods to go
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: unlive a deer. Okay, he wanted him to go get
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: a deer so they could, you know, have the meat
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and whatever for you know, pack the meat so they
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: can have some food for the winter or whatever. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the boy was frill. Okay, the story goes like the
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: boy was frel He was not manly. I mean, let's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: just say. I know that sounds crazy. But the dad
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: was kind of like, you know, you're not. You need
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to become a man, all right, you're two. Frill proved
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to me that you were a man. Go out into
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the woods and don't come back to you have a deer,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: a dead deer. And so the kid went out. He
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was only fifteen as a child. Okay, that's a little
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: kid to me. And and so the boy. He gave
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the boy a rifle and told him to bring home,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: bring on the bacon. They needed the meat, and so
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: he directed him to a heavily wooded area in a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: creek called Skull Crossing. The boy was reluctant, but he went.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: He had to go and press his dad. He had
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: never unalived anything in his life, but he was only
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: going to go do it. And a few hours later,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: the dad heard his son screaming, and so the kid
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: was running back to The kid ran back home and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: the dad was like, well, what why are you here?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: He was like, Dad, I heard something. I saw something.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. It's not cool. He
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: said it looked like something like a were wolf. That's
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: what he told his dad. He said, I don't want
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to go back. I just saw a were wolf, Dad,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And the dad was like, oh, shut your trap and
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: get back out there.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: So the dad was kind of an ahole, if you
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. He was like, no, get back
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: out there and go bring home a deer, and so
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: he forced his son. The legend goes that he forced
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: his son to go back into the woods and to
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: go get the deer. The kid was scared to death
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and he was inexperienced. He'd never been in the woods before.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And the kid went back, and then the kid was
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: never He was never seen again. For several days, they
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: didn't see this kid, and the dad went looking for him.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't go back, Like the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: next day, I would have been going back to look
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: for my kids. Okay, I wouldn't let the kid go
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: first of all. But the dad went back and when
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: he got back to the school crossing, they say that
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: they had a search party set up and went to
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: go look for this kid, and they heard a noise.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: They went towards it, and they said that when they
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: got there, they stumbled across about an eight foot tall
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: furry creature that resumed. It said it was like a
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: mix between an ape and a wolf. And they said
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: it was standing over it was like hunched over the sun.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: It was eating him. And yeah, it was eating the kid,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: and so the kid the I think the dad shot
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: at it. I think they shot at it and stuff,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: but it was too late to the kid was already dead.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: And so that is the story. They said it was
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: eight to nine feet tall. Eight to nine feet that's huge. Uh.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: And they call it now the converse werewolf. The dad
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: was so upset about what happened. Within a few months
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: he had died to according to the legend, he passed away.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: They say, some people say that he committed suicide over it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. To me, it's just like that. Uh, which one
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: is it? The is it the top three variant on
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: the dog Man? I think you know, d A and
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I have talked about this at ad nauseum about it
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: that we believe that's that's a misidentified gugwe yep top
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: three that Yeah, I mean, if you ran across that
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: in the woods and you saw it from the side,
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: especially back then when you know, yeah, see the the
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: top three on the top. I don't believe that's a dog, man,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I believe that's that's a gugway.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Probably maybe.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You know, so you ran across that ando was and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: you couldn't, as we've come to talk about on our show,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: if you couldn't get on the googles, it looks like
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: you can't get on the Googles and look it up.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Back then, you know, you just had to go with
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: what you knew. And if it looked like a big
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: wolf because of the snout and the long canines and
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: things like that, I mean, that's that's where you would
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: get stuff like that. I just I think that very
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: well could could be a gugway that they ran across.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: It could. So I put it in the AI tonight
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: when I got home from being out in field, like
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I had not set the show up yet. When I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: got home, I was like, I put it in the AI.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, half wolf, half ape. This is what
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I got. Okay, that's actually a pretty good representation. Okay.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, it doesn't look an ape a
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: little bit and a wolf. Good job, it's usually not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: a good job, AI, but tonight it was a good job.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it could be. I mean imagine, I would
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: imagine a Gugway looking bigger than that and stuff. But
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know who's to say I have. I have
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: not seen one yet, so I don't know. I haven't
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: seen a Gugway, I don't think. But I thought that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: was kind of a good representation there. So yeah, good job.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Like I said, good job, AI. That doesn't happen often.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Now I want to show like this is the area,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: this is where this happened, and it is right there
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: in the area of the dog Man triangles what they
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: call it. I don't know if that small town monsters
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: came up.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: With that or who they came up with it, but
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: that that's that's they did that show on it or
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: one of the documentaries on it, which pretty good if
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: you want to if you want to see a good documentary.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Not too far from San Antonio, you guys, I've been
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: to San Antonio. I love San Antonio. It was beautiful.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: They have the river walk there. I went to, uh,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: the al.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: You got the big thicket that's right in the middle
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: of the dog or the dog Wood, the dog Man Triangle,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: and think about how many bigfoot sightings and things like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: that are in the Big Thicket area. That's that's some
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: nasty area. Johnny actually uh used to live around there
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: and he he said, that's that's a that's a hot spot.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Really, I wonder why, why why do they have so
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: many dog man encounters there? Like, what's going on there?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what one area
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: makes or makes one area more appealing to a dog
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: man than than a bigfoot and in some areas appeal
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: to both of them.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Colleen says, my sister said she saw a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: black creature that looked like a wolf in a mountain lion.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: This picture is similar to what I imagine she saw.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, this that's a pretty cool that's a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: pretty interesting picture right there. I mean, like I said,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a good job did the AI this time around. AI
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: usually does a terrible job when I put something in,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: you know, to interpret what I'm trying to convey, and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I usually completely rue. It is terrible. It's my fault,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if you took the wolf hears away
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: and gave it more primate type of ears that that
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: would look to me just like what what you could
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: expect to look like.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I think too. Do you think they have a tail?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Probably not, but I mean who knows, I mean, good, yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it kind of like a baboon. It possibly
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: could have a tail. Who knows? Baboons have tails, mandrels
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: have tails.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, now here here is a chart kind of
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: to show the different the height difference between a human
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: and something that would be, you know, eight feet tall
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: or so. I mean, let's just say that, gentleman, right
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: there is six feet tall. These bigfoots look to be
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: about eight feet tall. Okay, so that's hobby. They are gigantic,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: very massive, okay, very massive, and and so just for
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: a size reference, this is what they encountered out there.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: This is this is what they said was was eating
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the child. The kid so super big, super scary. Imagine.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm out there hunting these things, Okay, I know.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I was on a vic Kunder show last night. My friend,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: my buddy Drew and I were on there together talking
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: about our dog man hunting that we've been doing. We
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: have literally been going out in the woods and we
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: had a dog man. I want to say, I'm going
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: to say investigation. I know, hunting sounds like we're out
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: there to try to tag them and bag them or whatever.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Said like, we're not doing that. We're
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: out there investigating them. Okay, but we're prepared if we
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: have to protect ourselves. That's the only difference. But it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: is kind of dumb when you think about it. I'm like,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: when I think about it, I mean, I'm ready. I've
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: been doing bigfoot research for a long time, Robbie. But
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, Man, if something is nine feet tall and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: it looks like this and I'm out there, I would
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: hope that it's not out there to try to eat me. Okay,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: that's bad, that's really bad. Like what am I doing?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Because more than likely there's not just one of them,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: there's a bunch.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: What were we doing out there in the in the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: mountains that night? Imagine if we if this is this
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: is what we were surrounded by that night. Yeah, so yeah,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: this is this is what we do for fun.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Y'all don't even get paid for it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: We don't even get paid for it. We paid to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: go do this for ourselves. Okay, this isn't expensive hobby
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: that we're doing. We are we are paying for us
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: to go our you know, we are sponsoring ourselves to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: go out there to potentially be eaten by these things.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: What we're doing. Yep, oh man, I think I think
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. Though it's pretty cool, it really sucks
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: this story. You know, this is from the eighteen hundreds, allegedly. Okay,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: this is a legend. Like I said, I cannot find
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: any proof this happened. But then again, we can't find
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: proof that the attack of the family at the LBL happened.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Right because they scrub stuff like that off the internet
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: so quick. Because you know, d A and I were
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: talking about that the other day, the story of the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: two bicyclists. You know, we found that and then almost
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: as quick as we found it, it was gone.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: And this is this is coming from a law enforcement
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: official here, y'all. This is Robbie is a longtime police
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: officer out of South Carolina too long. I love the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: credentials there, man. You know, it's really interesting that so
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: many people that I go out and do filled research
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: with are actually law enforcement officials.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Well, and you know, and that's that's We've talked about
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: that so many times before. That. You know, I've put
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: so many people in jail based on a sworn statement
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: from somebody. And that's good enough to put somebody in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: jail and take away there really freedom, but it ain't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: good enough to say that bigfoot we saw is real.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Blows my mind.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Whoa, it's weird how that works. That's strange. Have you,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: okay from at your job, have you ever had any
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: reports that you had to go answer to, like nine
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: one one calls the dispatchers send you off to, like
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: a call where someone has seen a let's just say,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: like a dog that got up and ran off on
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: two legs, or a bigfoot or anything like that, because
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: you're you're kind of you're out in the country.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well, where I lived in the country. But
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: the my agency that I work at, it's I mean,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: we've got we've got some I mean, it's city, but
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: you know there's some there's some rural rural say that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: word rural areas to it, but uh, obviously the surrounding
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: counties that is pretty rural. But you know, we were
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: talking about that a couple of months ago. Somebody asked
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: that question, exact same question, and I've never had a
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: call put out that way. But we've had a lot
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: of calls of what we call us prowlers, which is
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: ten codes ten to eighty suspicious person. But that's it.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: You don't get a description of well that person looks,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: especially not I just you know, just prowler. Never caught
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: that prowler. But you know, you get out there and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: people are like, you say, okay, well what happened? Well,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I just heard something. Well what did
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: you hear? I heard somebody walking around outside? And you
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: see anything? No, look and didn't see anything. And you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: go out walking around looking you don't see any sign
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: of anybody out there. So who knows? Very well, we
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: very well could have, because I know when we started
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: talking about that, Dad and I both are like, you know,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: we've probably both each answered hundreds of calls just like that.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so WT some unidentified prowlers in the area.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about. Eric, We probably have,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: we just but not that not what you're specifically talking about,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: because I know what you're specifically talking about, and no,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I have not had that kind of call. Thankfully. You
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: always have to read the book to figure out what
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: he or find out what he's talking about.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, okay, what's up? Eric's in the chat Edie Testerman, Robbie,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: you never had a late view man like call. I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: got to figure out what his late view man call is.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Read the book and you'll I will read it. Read
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: the book and uh uh books help me out. Eric.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: It's uh. After they were at McDonald's, when they were
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: all three of them are eating the McDonald's and they
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: get the call, that's when that happens. I believe when
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: you get the to them having their their supper at
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: McDonald's and the call they get, you'll know what he's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: It.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: It's funny and minus the bigfoot stuff that happens within
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: that call, take the bigfoot stuff out. Everything else that
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: happened in that call was based on a true story, on.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: A true story. So so did actually takes true stories
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: and kind of incorporates them into his books. I can
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: appreciate that.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's why. That's why I was curious as to like,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: if you've had any kind of encounters like or any
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: calls that you've been any kind of like calls you've
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: been dispatched to. You know, when I lived out in
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: the last place I lived where in my hometown where
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I grew up. My I had a family member who
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: was a lead dispatcher at the nine went one call
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: center shriff's apartment, and and she would she would let
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: me know, and she was good friends. And I was
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: good friends with a lot of the deputies there and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: the sheriff. My uncle was the sheriff out there for
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: a long time. But I was friends with a lot
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: of the deputies, and they would talk about taking calls.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: That one woman had called in and she was frantic,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: and she said she and her husband had hit a dog.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: They thought they had they had run over a wolf
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: or some kind of large dog, and they were They
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: were freaked out because they said that after they hit it,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: it ran into their car. They ran over it. Of course,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: it's like they were blaming the dog, right, but but
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: they hit it hit their car. They said that it
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: rolled for a second and then it got up and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: it ran off on two legs, and they were freaked out.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: And guess where that was, Robbie one mile from my house.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: That was one mile from my house.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: I've worked a few single car wrecks where they claimed
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: that they hit a bear, but you could there was
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: no blood, couldn't find the bear, nothing, So a lot
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: of damage to the front, which I know a big
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: black bear would do a lot of damage to the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: car if you hit it, but still you would think
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: you would find something. But you know, dark, big black
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: shape ran out in front. It had to be a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: bear because of how how bad it damaged my car looked.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: It had to be a bear. Could I mean, if
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: it had been a dog, the dog would have died
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: and it would have been right here. So yeah, there's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: probably been stuff like that that, but I've answered that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: there's been stuff like that. But like I said, you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: don't I've never got a call about a suspicious creature
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: walking around the house because you know, a lot of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: people are not gonna if they if they do see
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: something and they think it's that, a lot of them
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: are not gonna call dispatch and say big foots out
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: here because they're like, Okay, they're gonna think I'm crazy.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna say there's there's a suspicious person
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: outside my house because that way they'll get here.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not gonna take you serious. If you're like,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: I got a got a big foot looking at my window.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I saw a really I don't know why I thought
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: of this. I saw a really creepy video. I think
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: it was all a set up. I don't think it
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: was real. I don't know. This person was like I've
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: been seeing this white owl looking at my window every night,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: and so they're like, start filming it because they're like,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: this white owl came back and uh. And so they
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: start filming in the window and they cut on their
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: front front porch light and it was like a person
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: in a it was with a mask on. It was
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: so weird. It was really creepy. I think that a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: lot of these are set up. They're not real, probably,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: but that was creepy as hell. By the way, humans
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: humans are way scarier than cryptids in my opinion. Okay,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: not always, but in my experience.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bo, can I bet that dog?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Can I put that dowl? I say that all the time.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: My son says that too. That's one of our go tos. Yeah,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: if I were to see a bigfit, I'd be like,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: can I put that dowel? Yes? I mean we're out
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: there a big fits all the time. Yeah.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: I'm glad to say it wasn't popular when we were
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: at Joe Ball, and I was going after that thing
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: because I'd probably been saying, I don't put that dog,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: and it would have been like, get your butt back
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: over here.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: All right. You know, we got to keep a little
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: bit of humor going in really tough tense moments. Okay,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: tough tents moments. We have a lot of those, when
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: you're out there chasing monsters in the woods. We do.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: And yeah, true, you don't really know when the purp
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: is gone when you get there. That's true, Eric, for sure.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I've read so many stories of and I say that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: like I remember reading. You know, Da is a fantastic author.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: My friend John Bendaventer is also a fantastic author when
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: it comes to supernatural encryptid stories as well. And in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: one of his books and the Relics series he's talking
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: they talk about you'll have to read it, y'all, you'll
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: have to read it. Okay, I'm not gonna give that.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give it away. But it reminds me
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: of that. It's like people call in. Let's just say,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: and this is this is based off real life events.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: People will call in they have like a man looking
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: in their window, or they have whatever, but it ends
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: up not being a man. It's a bigfoot. Okay, it's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: a bigfoot, and the law enforcement doesn't know how to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: handle it very well. And sometimes those law enforcement officials
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: disappear when they're looking. They're out there out back trying
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: to find what it was and stuff. It may be
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: a part of his books, y'all. I don't know. You'll
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: have to read it, but m but it brings it
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: brings some some realness to to what what's really going
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: on out there. That's what's really going on, Robbie, right,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: But uh, it brings it brings some some kind of
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: like facts to some of these books that people like
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Da you're writing, you know, putting things like that in there.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Just but y'all, like I always say, don't live in fear, y'all,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: don't live in fear. But just know what's going on
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: out there, okay, all these cryptis and stuff. So I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: have not heard a lot of stories about people being
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: eaten by were wolves though, have you, Robbie.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Uh, the well, obviously the story we're talking about tonight,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: the one in LBL or the two in l b
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: L the family and then the two bicyclists, but other
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: than I can't remember if Werewolf Springs was. Oh yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: that the Warewolf Springs because that was one of the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: uh one of the guy's servant when they jumped out
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: of the wagon and one went the guy went one
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: way and his servant went to other and the servant
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: ended up going the wrong way. Yeah, apparently he did
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: it out lot, Yeah he did. The guy had he
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: sat there and said he had to sit there and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: listen all night, for most of the night.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that okay. So what we're talking about, y'all
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: is the Werewolf Springs incident. I've actually been in I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: don't want say negotiations, but we've been kind of throwing
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: the idea around of actually going to were Wolf Springs
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: with my team. But they say you have to hike
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: in ten miles to get higher. And you know, when
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: we went to Alabama to that dog Man hunt, we
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: hiked in five plus miles and it was like the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: middle of summer, and it was hot, and and for
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: everybody who keeps up with my adventures, y'all know, we
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: backpack camped. So I was in a dog man burrito basically, okay,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: And that's okay. I enjoy being in a dog Man,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot Burrito. I don't mind it out there in the field,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: but it's not it's not super safe. It's adventurous, okay.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: And and we usually do have one person at least
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: one or two people that'll stay up. We take turns sleeping, okay,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: to make sure that our base camp is safe and everything.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: But we're out in the middle of nowhere. Five miles
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: was a lot, Robbie.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: That was a long hike, Yeah, especially in the heat.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in this uphill both ways, that is what it
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: felt like with with copperheads and rattlesnakes and everything out there.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it kind of sucked a little bit, but
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: it was fine.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I can't you know, obviously, I said, you know,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: we're going to back to Missouri, but I can't wait
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: to get to Alabama. Well, Greg house, because there's some
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: there's some good good stuff going on around Greg's uh
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Man cave. He gets uh. I've heard from multiple people.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: He was on the phone with River Morris and Jeffy Arrington.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: They were doing a just a three way call group chat,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: and River and Jeff both heard something smack. Greg's uh
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: He's got one of his big propane tanks out behind
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: his uh Man cave. It was. It smacked so loud
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: that they both heard it over the phone. Wow, said
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: River told me that he he's with his own voice.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Told me he said it sounded like a church bell
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: ring and slapped it so hard.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, Oh okay, you said that's in Alabama. Mm hmm,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: what just tell me the region? Do you know what
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: region of Alabama that's in?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere near Aniston, because uh we got to talk.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: You know those classes that I go to for the
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Merchant Preparedness Center down there in Aniston. Yeah, because he said, well,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: what do you know about Alabama? I said, well, I'll
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: go down to Anaston for that. He said, oh, I'm
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: not far from that at all. Which think about what
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: were that is in Aniston? That's on uh an Old
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Military Base, which butts up to surprise, surprise.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: A National Forest Talladega over there. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I go out to Talladega pretty you know. I'm not
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: gonna say often, but I go out there sometimes. You know,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: we got chi chia has out there. Yeah, and they
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: actually have a lot of bigfoot activity out there. I
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: know for a fact they do. Oh yeah, and if
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: you go to the garden house. I guess you call
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: it the guard house or whatever. I don't know. When
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: you go to Chiaha and you have to go like
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: sign in if you want to go, like get a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: camping spot there or whatever you're doing, get a park
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: pass for the day. You go inside that little shop
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: and Robbie, it is wall to wall Bigfoot memorabilia, plushies, magnets,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: key chains, t shirts, mugs, cups, socks, whatever. It's all
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot everything, the entire place. I was shocked when I went.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: G Man Werewolf Springs is in Tennessee.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: It's in Tennessee, That's right, Tennessee. Tammy has a question, Jessica,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: can dog men mind speed like Bigfoot? Would they be
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: able to understand you and respect them? Yes? Absolutely, I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: do believe so. I think some of them, yes, could.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I've actually heard of dog men speaking words verbally speaking
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: to people before. I don't know the validity to that.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I've had at least one or two people say that before.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I cannot confirm I wasn't there, However, that's what I've
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: been told. That they'll say something like a person's name
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: like Pam or something. I don't know. Robbie and you know,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: you go back in the day of like the back
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: back back in the day of like old World maps
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: where they have the sinucephale on the Old World maps
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: and stuff, they have civilizations of dogmen. And in the
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: history books, not the ones we're taught in our public
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: school system, but in some of the history books they
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: say that. In some of the diaries, I guess you
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: could say, they say that they would speak, they'd mark
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: and they would say, you know, primitive words and stuff
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: like you know, it was it was real short. You know,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: they weren't like philosophers, okay and stuff, but they would
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: they would speak a little bit because they did trading
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: and stuff with the regular humans. So I would assume
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: they're still doing that today, not trading with humans. I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they do, but but yeah, really interesting.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I think they do mind speaking. I think most cryptids
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: do mind speak, and that's why my team. Part of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: the reason my team has been trained so heavily and
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: remote viewing and the psychic skills is so that we
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: can learn telepathy and how to mind speak with cryptids
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: and stuff. So great question, though, Thank you, Tammy. I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. So Robbie, you you think that this could
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: be a gogey that attacked that little boy. Yeah right,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: you're you're okay. I think that you're right. I think
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: that it's probably a gugey too, because where wolves would
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: indicate that would be like black magic, it'd be like
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: a human that had transformed.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, I mean in any you know, like we talked,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: you're talking about sign of stuff, lie and things like that.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: That's where go back to King King Liking, where the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: you know, the licking throat actually came from, or like hey,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: and how you pronounced it, I say Liking. But it's
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: just like we said earlier, everything, all these stories have
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: some type of grain of truth or something. You know,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: no matter what size of the truth, there's some grain
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: of truth to it. So let's say that these things
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: that and you know me, I'm I'm firmly and it's
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: an animal, it's some type of I do believe there
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: are there are demons out there that because if you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: look at some of these, and I know I'm kind
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: of veering off here for a second, but bear with me.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: If you look at these, there's really two times, two
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: types of encounters. When you hear from here about dog
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: man listen to DA's encounter. It's sitting there, it was
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: on it was kind of off the road. It was
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: kind of watching it. Noticed that the car was slowing down,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: noticed that uh Da and them were slowing down looking
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: at it. It took off. You know, exhibits the behaviorists
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: or the behaviors of an animal, because what other wild
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: animal usually sits there and watches you like that? Not
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: too many, you know, they see they take off, or
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: you get the ones that say red eyes, hell, beast, demon, demonic, hell,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: that that is the words they usually describe it. I
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: feel like that there are supernatural things out there that
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: that you know, you get those types of things, and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: that's when you have those encounters. So that's where things
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: like where wolves came from. But I also believe that
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: there are, you know, just normal animals that fit this
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: description too. If something like that is what scares you
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: the most, a were wolf, if a demon is trying
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: to appear to you and do something to you, I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: just believe that that's it's going to appear, is what
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: scares you the most, because that's that's what it's supposed
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: to do. It's strike fear in your heart. So the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Ghostbusters theory. I tried to think of the most nicest
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: thing I could. Now we got an eight hundred foot
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: marshmallow coming at us. Because I think that's that's where
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff comes from. Is that you
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: had people talk about where wolves where people changing back
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: and forth. I just think that's probably a demonic entity
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: just what they were seeing with that kind of stuff.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: And it just goes from here because people use the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: term dog man. But you know that phrase was and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: coined to what the nineteen eighty seven or eighty nine,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I believe Bigfoot fifties is when that first came out.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: But now it's just like you know, you call every
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: soft drink of coke, or you call every tissue a
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: cleanex it's a brand name. It's not. It's just that
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: that's the cool and popular terminology. Now my two cents
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: wor us anyway, Jessica, you're muted.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't even mute myself. That's so weird. I was
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: totally muted. I'm serious.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: I thought it was I was looking, and I was like,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I kept watching to see if anybody said it was
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: me because I was talking.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I did meet my I probably didn't meet myself because
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: I was moving my legs around my chair squeaky. So damn, y'all.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Robbie. I'm just over here. I'm
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: trying to my lip syncing over here. Uh. So, I know,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I had Daryl Dinton on the show about three weeks
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: ago or more, I don't know when it was. It
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: was probably about a month ago, and and he was
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: talking about his personal encounters with bigfoot and dogmen and uh,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: and he we were talking about the demonic aspect of
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: all of this, and uh. You know, a few years ago,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: if you had to ask me if I thought bigfoots
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: could be demonic, I would have been like, no, you know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: that's no, I don't think so, you know, the red eyes,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: the red eye glow and all that kind of stuff,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's demonic. But now I
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: don't know, Robbie. I think there is a demonic aspect
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: of some of these cryptids. I do. The more that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: I'm getting into it, the more i'm learning, the more
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm experiencing, I think there is a demonic aspect to it.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: So uh and yeah, and You've got that right about
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: the getting into your head and it's like you are
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: going your your biggest fear will be reflected to you.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when people talk about mind speak. I
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: don't think there's there's and I'm not trying to, you know,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: throw shade on it. I believe that when you're here
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: in mind speak a lot of times that's what it is.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: It's a demonic spirit trying to get into your head
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: to find out what you're scared of, because there's something
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: that it won'ts from you. That. That's just my opinion,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, rock noses, we all got one and
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: they're all different noses.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Some people say.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: I was trying to be politically correct.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: No, that's funny. Out late noses too. That was funny.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: That's funny. Oh gosh, Colleen says, a little person spoke
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: to my brother telepathically. Sasquatch can communicate, communicate too, I hear.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: I wonder if dog me and can do? I think
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: dog me and can too. I think I think pretty
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: much all cryptids can.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: Is.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: It's almost like I'm not going to say they're more
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: highly advanced than we are, okay, but they tap into
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: stuff that we don't always tap into or ours our
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: abilities have been suppressed for a long time and look
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: down upon you know, like I mentioned earlier. I think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier in the show that I had been
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: called a witch for doing remote viewing and stuff. And
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I never claim to be psychic and all
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, but when I talked about remote viewing,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you're a witch, you know whatever. Things
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: like that. When people are accused of stuff like that,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: it makes you suppressure abilities, your psychic abilities, and uh,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: and so your telepathy. Like we're all capable of doing
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: telepathic communication and being psychic, we're all we're born that way, okay,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: but it's so suppressed. And we also have things like telephones.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Telephones replaced telepathy Robbie, by the way, that's why it's
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: called a telephone, Telly, right, And so so we don't
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: we don't have to use our telepathy. We have telephones.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: It's like artificial, right, we have like artificial telepathy right here.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: It used to be like when you think about somebody,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: they sometimes, I'm not gonna say, used to be how
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: many times, Robbie, have you thought of somebody and then
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: your phone rang and it was them or your phone rang.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: I can't think of anything right off the top of
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: my head. But I'm sure that's happened.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like your phone rang and you just knew
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: it was somebody and you that and it was them, right,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. That's that's kind of like telepathy, right,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: that's telepathy. So it's being psyche, it's tuned in and
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: and things that live out in the wild, creatures live
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: out in the wild. Let's just think about bigfoot for instance,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: and dogmen. They don't have telephones, okay, like they're their
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: telepathy has not been replaced by something electronic, Okay, so
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: they're going to be more tuned in, they're going to
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: be telepathic, they're going to be all that. So anyways,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's like my little tangent there on that. And
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: I think the cryptids are more prone to being telepathic
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: than we are humans. But that's just because we don't
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: tap into it. We're we're made to feel like we
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: are crazy if we do stuff like that, or it's
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: bad or we're witches. Right, So well, that was my sense.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: You know, if I went back to you know, the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: old West and had this and it would work any
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: any science or technology that's farther advanced than what can
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: be understood is considered magic. If I went back to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: the eighteen hundreds with a big lighter that we know
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: would understand through science right now, they would burn me
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: at stake for being a warlock.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, what kind of magical instruments I actually found? Okay,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: I was at a gas station today when I was
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: driving up to North Georgia, and and my son saw
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: a big foot lighter today, so we bought a big
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: foot lighter. Okay, there's nothing to do with nothing, just you.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: You brought the lighter up and and Ben actually grabbed
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: it and put it on the counter, and he and
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I had to get like basically carded for this scene
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: because my son touched the lighter. I didn't know the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: laws are so strict on lighters a kid cannot buy
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: a lighter by way, just so you know, Yeah, there is.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: The lady was like, well, this is for you, right,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: and I was like, well, yeah, I guess. So she
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: was like, well, so why are you asking She was like, well,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: because your son is too young to buy a lighter,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: so I have to confirm that you're buying this right.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: So anyways, but it has a big foot on it.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: And and I can appreciate that. You know, back when
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I first started big footing and stuff, Robbie Bigfoot was
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: not cool with the general public. They didn't they did
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: not have big foot lighters back in the day, back
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: when I was big footing. What do you feel about
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: the popularity of Bigfoot in dog Man today? Like how
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty cool right that this is way
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: was when we were experiencing this back in the day.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, it's like I've a matter of fact,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: Da Doc and I were having this conversation about a
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: month ago and I said, you know, the uh I
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: kept this all of my stuff bottled inside for forty
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: plus years because you know, you call crazy and you're
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: call stupid. You re call this and call that. And
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: obviously this safe space we've got with these shows that
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: we do, and you know, the Internet and as I say,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: you got the Googles now where you can get on
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: and look at all this stuff, look up all this stuff.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: It's it's really good and really it makes you feel
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: good to know that you can come on a show
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: like this. And you know, and we've talked about this.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: You and I have vastly different opinions on a lot
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: of things and how these things go. But we can
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: sit here and have a have a conversation about it
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: and neither one of us calls the other one crazy,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: you cause the other one stupid or says no, it's
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: my way or the highway. You've got to believe this way.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: That's what's so cool about this stuff is, you know,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: because nobody there is there are no experts in this field.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Every it's all speculation. I could be one hundred and
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: fifty percent wrong on my my opinions on this, but
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: they're my opinions until until we have something to study.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: Nobody knows. They could walk into portals, they could be
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: backtracking and have adaptive camouflage. Like I said, who knows.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: It's just but that's the fun of it. And that's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: why I like this community or and when I say
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: this community, I'm talking about the general community around our
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: channels where it's you know, everybody can have a different opinion,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: but you don't get crucified for having a different opinion.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell you there are channels
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: and people out there who will crucify you if you
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: don't have their same opinion they have and that's not
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: what it's about, because you're never gonna learn if you
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: stay in one closed perspective. D A and Doc and
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: I will say, well, sit here and say every single
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: time Jessica's heard of say this, if we're proven wrong,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: we'll be the first one to say, dang, guess what
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: we were wrong?
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Right? But exactly, Robbie, I gotta say. Those those people
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: that are the my way or the highway people, I
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: see them in my chat sometimes, so they're they're over
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: here there. I don't know if there's maybe they're just learning.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: They're either lurking or learning maybe both. Okay, so I
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: know who you're talking about. They're in my chat sometimes. Yeah,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: they're not in here tonight though. Everybody here, but I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: know exactly what you're talking about. And uh, and we
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: are not. We are not a my way or highway
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: kind of place. Neither is your channel, you and DA
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: and the guys.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: I love having an open mind about stuff and keeping
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: an open mind even with the flat earth stuff. I
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: know that is so polarizing. I don't know if you've
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: talked about flat earth yet. That is like the biggest
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: oh topic. Yeah, people people are like.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: People over that flat earth stuff.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: They will this a knockdown drag out. And we brought
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: it up one day Doctor John Stami was on my
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: show and and he mentioned having a flat earth conference
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: and oh my god, the slinging. The slinging began. Okay,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't bad. But I'm just saying it's very polarizing.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: But I'm very open to it. Like I'm a I'm
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: a globe kind of girl. I believe in the globe,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm open to having my mind changed if somebody,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: you know, if I saw the evidence of it.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: This, I mean, it's no different than than our theory
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: about all them living in caves. And I'm talking Bigfoot
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: now living in caves, being subterranean, you know, wood knocks
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: not being I'm still would knocks out there obviously. But
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's tongue click. I think they I think
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: they use a form of used as a form of
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: eco location.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: It's a tongue click, like bats and stuff like sonar.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: If you're living, if you're living predominantly underground, subterranean is dark.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: You've got to have a way to move around. And
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: I started working on this theory when I saw there
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: was a discovery channel. Guy was completely blind. I think
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: he was even born blind, and he taught himself how
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: to echo locate by clicking his tongue, and they set
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: up a little horse on his bike for him ride
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: on his bicycle. And obviously the guy is blind, so
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: he can't he can't see the course, and he echo
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: located around that course and didn't hit a thing.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: So people that can see, and that's that's the thing.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: If if you can, if we can be taught to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: do that, And this this goes back to my to
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: my argument about adaptive camouflage. If we can take a
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: navy seal or an army ranger or a you know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: any kind of specap and teach them how to disappear
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: and melt into the into the woods, I mean, think
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: about some of the training snipers have to go through.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: I mean they have to get within feet of the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: instructor and not be seen and fire off a shot
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: and then I hope that they're good enough for the
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: destructor might be able to find them. So, if we
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: can teach people to do that, what can something with
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: a natural gilli suit with clear hair shafts that does
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: not want to be found? What can something like.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: That do with chlorophyll in their hair.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: Look at the Paul Freeman foot film where Freeman was
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: filming that black sasquatch walking across them in front of
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: that green tree, and it realizes his video and it stops.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: And when it stopped, it completely blended in and just disappeared.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: It didn't step into portal Scott, he didn't beam it up.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: It just stopped moving. And then when he started moving
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: towards it, and it realized that he wasn't going away,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: it turned and as soon as it turned, you could
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: see it again because it was moving. Any hunters out there,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: I mean deer, have you ever shot that you didn't
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: see move first? Yeah, you don't the questions you haven't
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: because you don't see them until they move. And that's
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: a deer. So you've heard me ask this question. If
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: you shave a polar bear, what color is? What colors
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: its skin?
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know? White or black or brown?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: Black? Why would it be black? Where does polar bear live?
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: There's in a very cold environment, right What does black do?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: Black absorbers the heat? Then you take it a step further. Okay, well,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: what color is the polar bear's hair? Most people say
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: it's white. No, it's clear. Why is it clear? Because
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: when a polar bear's laying on the snow or an
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: ice floe, one of those blowholes for seals or whatever,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: it needs to look like because you've seen pictures of
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: polar bears laying there like this right, covering their nose
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: because their nose is black. If they're sitting there looking
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: down into that hole, they need to look like a
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: big pile of snow because if a seal is looking
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: up and he sees that face looking at him, he's
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: not going to come up through that hole to get air.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: Smart adaptive camouflage. All you have to do is look
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: in nature and you can get a lot of these
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: answers for these questions that we have.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: That's right. And Robbie, you are colder than a polar
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: bear's toenails. I'm just saying that's pretty cold. That's from
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: an outcast on one of my favorites. So yeah, I
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, we're.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: What I said, because their totails a dug in the
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: snow most of the time. They're pretty cold. They walk
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: around snow, you know. And like I said, that's my opinion.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: What I've just the stuff that I just found out
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: that's my opinion. But that's how I've that's how I've
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: explained my opinion, and so far I hadn't really bet
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: anybody that could out debate that that opinion. And I'm
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: not that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying I'm right,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: but I just think I have you know, Da and
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: Doc and I really worked a lot on those theories,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: and I think I think we've really got a good
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: But it's just like our uh Teddy Roosevelt theory. I
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: And now look at the Lower Lodge. We did that.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: We did a show on Teddy Roosevelt being being Bowman
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: two and a half years ago. A month ago, the
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: Lowre Lodge did a show on on that and had
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: seventeen thousand views on it. But we did a show
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: about that two and a half years ago.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: So I feel that Robbie, Actually, you know, I have
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: somebody pointed that out to me. I've had a couple
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: of people pointed out to me like things that I've
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: done shows on that people haven't really done shows on
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: figure channels are like doing them, and I'm like, and
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: it's kind of especial. It's like, Okay, well I did
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: that did they get there?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: For me?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: I've actually been quoted on shows that have like five
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand subscribers and they say my name because they
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: get the information from my channels.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: From my channel another thing, and Johnny actually sent me this.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: We did a show and it was just me. Actually
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: it was actually the show that when we first started
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: talking about the underground and the tongue clicks and all
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. That show is when we da
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: pulled up the map of Bigfoot sightings, the map of
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: the cave systems, and the missing four one one and
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: overlaid all three of those maps and they matched up.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: Six months later, there's a lady on TikTok TikTok called
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: the Map Lady or the Map Girl, Map Woman, something
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: like that, well over a million followers. Johnny sends me
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: a link to this video. She put out a video
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: that had like four million views on it. She over
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: she was talking about it, and overlady, exact same three
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: maps in the exact same order that we did six
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: months before.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's uh, it's it's it's flattering
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: right that people are at least at least the information's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: getting out there. And I think that that's actually the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: important part, and that's how I look at it. It's
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: like and and I was talking to my friend Nick Sylvester,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: who he and I were both quoted on this show
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: about the Sudan dog Man, that Iraq dog Man or whatever,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: and uh, and I was excited about it. I was like, hey,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: you know this. I guess it's you hit the big
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: time when you got big, big, gigantic channels quoting you
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: and stuff, you know, and your channel and and so
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: it's flattering. And he and I were discussing about how
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: we're just happy that the information is getting out there
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: because that's ultimately what I'm in this for, and I
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: know you are too. We're in it to spread the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: knowledge and spread what we know and to make h
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: to kind of let the world know what we know
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: in a way. And so it's getting traction. So I'm
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: cool with it. And they did and they did mention
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: my name, so they weren't just stealing my information or
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: anything like that, you know. So that was good. But
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: I've noticed it too, Robbie, I've noticed it too. It's
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: happening to me as well. Okay, that just means that
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: people are watching, you know, that's a good thing, you.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: Know, And yeah, I totally agree with that. I you know,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: the main thing is that the information is getting out there,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: but also that there's other people, bigger channels that have
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: the same theories and ideas that we do, so right.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Thank you, Colleen. That's very sweet.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think people are copying our channel so much.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: I think that it's people are using our information because
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: we have some really dag hum good information. Okay, we're
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: putting out good because we're actually boots on the ground
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: researcher researchers and uh. And on addition, in addition that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: I got some good remote viewing data for a lot
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: of this stuff too that we're doing, and uh, and
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I think that that that plays a big role in
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: all this too. But yeah, it's uh. I always encourage
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: everybody to go go watch channels like mine and yours,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: you know, da X, MOKTA and UH and all the
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: people that come on our shows, like we're the disclosure,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: like the disclosure we're not going to be getting this
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: from the mainstream media and stuff like we're we're putting
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: information out there that the mainstream media is not gonna
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: be putting out. Their government is not going to put
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: it out, So come to our channels and watch that.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, Robbie, what what are What is
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: your opinion on all these drones we got floating around
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: out here around the East Coast. Do you have an
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: opinion on that?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's kind of a political one, So I
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: don't know if you want me to go into Yeah, no.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: You don't have to. I mean that answers it right there.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it's political too in a way.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. My dad and I are talking about it today,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, and we pretty much have of the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: same opinion. And I think it's political. I think there's
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: a country or two behind it.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: I think so too. Somebody gave me that. I got
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: that as a blind coordinate remote viewing target and and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: there are a couple of countries that came up in
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: my data, and we talked about it on Thursday here
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: on the channel. But it's just a hot topic right now.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I like talking about the hot topics, and
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: it's a matter of national security, and you know, you're
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: a law enforcement official and I just you know, these
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: kind of things are important and they're very relevant, especially
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: with it, you know, to start everyday lives. So yeah,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: we just everybody's we got to stay safe out there, okay,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: but not living fear y'all, like I said, and we
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: got we got plenty of other things to worry about.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there could be a an alien invasion
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: planned in the future.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I think I think
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: there's some other things that that have already been tried
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: they're going to be tried again.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Really mm hmm, yeah, what could be? It could be everybody.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: I always I always in my show, every every show,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: I always in it by saying keep your head on
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: a swivel okay. And situational awareness. Yeah yeah, what are
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: your big things? Is like tracking and situational awareness, survival
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: things like that. Robbie, Uh, do you have any like
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: advice for the audience tonight is to like taking care
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: of ourselves and standing safe out there.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Well no matter what you're doing, if you're out in
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: the woods tracking a deer or tracking a bigfoot, situation
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: awareness for anybody that no, that's you never go into
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: a situation doing this and don't worry about all this.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: That's why it's ideal if you're going into a situation,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: add more than one person because if you're if you're
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: going to be looking at the ground and looking to
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: tract something, you need to have somebody watching your back
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: because but if not, you need to be watching everything.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: And the biggest things that I can say is, if
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: you're out there by yourself a few steps, look around,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: look up, look left, look right, look behind you, especially
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: look behind you. But don't ever forget to look up
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: because a lot of these things like to climb trees,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, And you know what was the beast
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: of blading bird? Was that the one where the woman
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: was attacked from above? Was that that one?
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: It was well Hambleton was Linda Hamilton was for sure
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: up in North Carolina. Yeah, so yeah, that one, that
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: one too, actually Yeah.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: And regardless of whether that was a cryptid or a
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: big cat or whatever it was, she was attacked from above.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: If you're going out in the area where there's uh cougars,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: mountain lions, whatever you call them, in the region you're in,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: those things are ambush predators. Check behind you, check above you.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: If you're going out when it's warm, watch out for snakes.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: Know what kind of snakes are in the area because
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: and I always watch out for the Greater North American
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: myth head because they'll hurt you quicker than anything.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Look out for humans, y'all, Humans or even more dangerous
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: than the Cribson is out there sometimes, so that's funny.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: Most times.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is coming from a cop, y'all,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: from a cop.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't take credit for that one. That's DA's Yeah,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: the Greater North American Mathea, that's he is.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Marie. Marie says this is for entertainment purposes only.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: I agree, this is for entertainment purposes only all and uh,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: that's funny. Yes, yeah, we got to watch out for
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: everything that's out there right now. We do have some
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: weird stuff going on, potentially things that are planned, maybe
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: planned to initiate fear and control the masses. Like Colleen says,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree. The latest intel that I got
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: on those drones was that they were searching for nuclear
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: weapons that had been snuck into our country. I don't know.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's just more fear mongoring and personally, but
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I try not to
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: watch the news if I don't have to Okay, I'd
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: be fine just living in my own little bubble over here,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: chasing Bigfoot and dog men in the woods. But nonetheless,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: this has been a fantastic show, Robbie, Oh my gosh,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: we have. We've almost been talking for two hours now,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: and uh, I think we covered the wearwels pretty well.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: I think we did. And uh, yeah, what what do
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: you have going on right now? And tell the audience
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit about your podcasts and uh and your
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: your small business you got running right now?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I said earlier. You can find me and d
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: A and uh Doc when he's available. He's been working
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: his tail off here lately. So Doc have been able
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: to be on the show here too too much. But
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: you can find us on Dax mocking on YouTube. We're
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: live every Wednesday and Saturday night for U d a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: X making it, and then every Sunday night we're live
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: and this is the times are going to be nine
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: pm Central time, Uh excuse me, eight pm Central nine
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: pm Eastern.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: In Sunday nights, we're uh live campfire Tales where we're
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: reading from DA's We've started reading some of the short
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: stories he'd written.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: Then we have just recently started and finished book one
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: of the Ragnaronk Rising series. Book one is called Awakening. Uh.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: It's a sci fi'szombie series. But all DA's books are
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: tied together. So if you're not sure if you're going
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: to like some of DA's books, go check out some
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: of the Campfire Tales and you can hear some of
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: the short stories. We've read, uh, Demons Part one and two.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: We've read uh, Desk Stoks, Moon Valley, and I think
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: one other. And now, like I said, we read the
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: first book of the Ragnaronk Rising series and we started
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: last Sunday, we started book two, which is called The
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: Crew Ragnrant Rising, The Crucible.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: All DA's books are tied together. They're all you know,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: you could see. If you get a favorite character in
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: one book series, that character very well could be I'm
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: in two different series right now. My character docs in
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: two or three different series. And that he bases most
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: of his characters on real life people, real life events.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: You know, tweaks things here and there, but go check
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: them out. I mean, if you like cryptid stuff, which
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: obviously you do, because if you didn't, you wouldn't be
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: listening to me and Jessica talk about the stuff we're
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: talking about. Go check them out. Da Roberts dot net.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't be. You won't be. If you like to read,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: you like this kind of stuff, you won't be. You
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: won't be sorry about it. You'll like them. As far
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: as me, uh lone Wolf customs I do, uh laser engravings,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: starting to make knives.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: I did that for Jessica the Cryptid Huntress. You can't
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: see it very well because it's a mirror, y'all. Robbie,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for her. I love it so much.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: Well, but.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: This is beautiful.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: This is this is one that I've got one from
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: that's my character in Dark Frontier. Doc's got one with
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: his name on it, and DA's got one with decline
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: on it. Uh, just a canvas. It's got you paint
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: and then paint the black evert and then you laser
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: and grave whatever your picture is. Uh just kind of
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: do a little bit of everything on that. And like
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: I said, it's starting to make knives. So we're working
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: on getting that done also for for our knives. My
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: buddy Johnny it's on uh my partner on the podcast
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: What's Really out There podcast? He does leather work, and
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: so the knives is going to be available with kayak
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: shees or leather shees. He made this one for me
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: today from this is my little Mantis from Scaleywag Tactle.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: But he made me a nice little scout carry leather
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: holster and I sat down and watched and make it.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: Talk about a craftsman. He made that in like an
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: hour and a half, two hours while we sat there
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: and talked.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Those Scaley Wag knives are sharp as heck.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: To be careful.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: That's why he made it for me because it came
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: with a little cheap nylon and I cut my thumb
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: on it last night and we were sitting here talking and.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: We all gotten off those knives. Man, those things are so.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: Sharp on camera all together.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: All together, yeah right.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: Well all together. Probably a lot more than I be
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: that I would like to say, but on camera twice,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: and this is the one that got me on camera
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: both times. Yeah, Scallley Wags will get you. But uh yeah.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: So if you're if you want to see some of
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: the stuff that I've done, you can go to my
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: lone Wolf fence Gram channel. It's Loan Dot Wolf Customs
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: at Instagram or how high of Instagram does it? Just
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: search Loan dot Wolf Customs and you can see a
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that I've done. Hats. Uh yeah,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: I do laser engraved hats. That's my loan Wolf Forging Customs.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: Uh logo that I made. Ah. So that's laser and
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: grave leather and hats and put that put them on
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: the hats. Matter of fact. Uh, Edie, I know you're
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: in the Your hats came in today, brother, So as
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: soon as she gets me the artwork, I'll get started
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: on your hats. Edie ordered some hats from me and
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: some which still need. You still need to send me
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: your design that you want for your business cards. You
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: haven't done that yet, So there you go.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: Nice and if you guys, and so you take orders right,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: so like the audience can like get some orders done
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: by you and see I'll go to it's our rains
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: c eight at gmail dot com. So you guys, send
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: Robbie an email or you go to his YouTube channel.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: Is this right, Robbie Loan dot Wolf Customs.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: That's my Instagram for Instagram mh. And that you can
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: see hats. You can see all kinds of stuff that
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: I've done on.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: There, very nice. And please go over to d A
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: X Monk and you guys, please go over there and subscribe.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: They have live shows every is it Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. Yes,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: And and DA is a good friend of the show
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: as well. And I love d A d A. I
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: hope you're feeling better. If you get a chance to
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: watch this, we hope you get feeling better. Please come
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: and join us on the show DA soon too. He's
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: an amazing, amazing researcher. And uh and I always enjoy
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: having him on the show too. And yeah, but Robbie,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: me and you have been out in the field together.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: We've had so much fun hanging out. And I'm so
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: glad you came on tonight. I'm sorry that DA's not
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: feeling well, but I'm glad that I could snag you
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: tonight for a show.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I get a night off and
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: ask me. I'm like, okay, whatever. I I was like,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: come on.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: Robbie, you're off, I see, come on hang out with
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: me on a Saturday night. And so thank you so much.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: I know, I know it's nice to have a night off.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that feels like I haven't had
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: one off in a while.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: I don't mind. I mean, it's not like this is work.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: You know. We're sitting there talking in it and it's fun.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: We have a good time. Like I said, we have
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: a really good time hanging out together. So Robbie, thank
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: you so much for being here tonight and talking about
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: our adventures out in the woods and the were wolves
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: and the dog men and the bigfoots. It's fun. Okay,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: please come back and see me, come hang out and Okay,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: well let's get out in the woods together too. Sometime soon.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be speaking at the next Georgia Bigfoot
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: Conferences in March this year, so maybe you can come
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: back around in March.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not far from me, so I mean, that's okay,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 3: that's very doable. But like I said, we're going I
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: think into January into the first of February is when
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: we're going. I think that's what Doc had said when
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: he's blocked it out, So we'll be going up there.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: So far as I know, I don't have anything, I
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: won'dn't have anything going on in March.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, good March twenty second. Put it on your calendar
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: that weekend. I will be up in that area. It's
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: not in Clayton, it's and Demerous, which is a little
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: it's about just a few minutes away from there, but
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: it'll be it'll be a good time up there. And yeah,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: it's not far from that research area that we like
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: to go to. Okay, so well do heck? Yeah, Well,
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: well we'll be coming over and seeing you guys over
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: on d e X makanna you guys, please go to
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: Lone Wolf Customs on Instagram and hit up Robbie for
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: some laser goods. Okay, and y'all come back and see
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: me on Monday. I have Jock Doubleday coming on the
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: show Monday. We're gonna be talking about the terror terraforming
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: of Earth. He's on a lot of research, He's traveled
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: the world. He believes that our Earth was actually made. Okay, bye,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him talk to you all about that
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: on Monday. Okay, it was terraformed by maybe even extraterrestrials.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's gonna be really good. We probably
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: even talk about the Titans, the giants that might be
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: mountains and all that kind of stuff. We're gonna talk
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: about a lot of weird stuff that is gonna blow
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: your mind on Monday, so y'all come back, and then
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: of course on Wednesday, we got Big Kunda from dog
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: Man Encounters coming on, So y'all come back and see
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: me then. Okay, Uh, Robbie, are you guys taking tomorrow
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: night off to you?
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? He uh, something happened. He wakes up feeling better tomorrow.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: If he does, then we'll be back read. We'll just
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: pick up with where we're supposed to pick up on
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: the book. But uh, as it stands right now, we
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: won't be back to Wednesday. And like I said, unless
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: he just wakes up feeling great tomorrow, okay, Well.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: We're putting it out there. Good energy to d A
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: that he feels better tomorrow. Okay. And uh and I'm
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: really enjoying your Sunday night show where you guys are
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: doing your fireside chats and reading at his books. It's awesome.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: That's the r r A. The r Yeah, the Red
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: Neck Reading Association.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: Get your library cards ready, go to the r r A. Okay,
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: thank god, sounds like the A A R P, but no,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: it's r r A.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, R A instead of the A A R, P,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: a's and r's and p's are in that.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all go to the Redneck Reading Program, okay with Robbie.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Robbie, that's a fun note to leave
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: this show on. Y'all have a wonderful night. Oh you guys,
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: please stay safe out there and keep your head on
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: a swivel. Don't live in fear and just have a
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: wonderful night. Come back and see me on Monday. And
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: y'all go and be sure to subscribe to da x
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: Mokna on YouTube. Thank you Robbie so much for being here.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: I'll see you guys on Monday. Everybody, have a great night.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: Bye y'all. Hie ye.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: Hie. Then pasta and many teams