Latest / V / Indian-Born Democrat Tries to Impeach Trump (Ep.192)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Bungino Report Early Edition. I'm
- 0:04Speaker 1: a little tired this morning. I'm gonna be honest with
- 0:05Speaker 1: you guys and I'm gonna try and keep it high energy.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I was just yawning and I don't know if my
- 0:10Speaker 1: mic was on. Was it on for that, Mikey? Yeah, sorry,
- 0:13Speaker 1: you guys. It's a morning show. I need to actually
- 0:15Speaker 1: start drinking some more blackout coffee. I've also been on
- 0:19Speaker 1: a matcha kick too, which apparently has a lot of
- 0:21Speaker 1: caffeine in it. So I gotta do that. You guys,
- 0:24Speaker 1: we have a lot to, yeah, Mikey's got his blackout.
- 0:27Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to today, but I
- 0:28Speaker 1: want to tell you, just so you know what's going
- 0:30Speaker 1: to happen during the show, that at the end, we
- 0:33Speaker 1: are going to have another video from one of the
- 0:36Speaker 1: interviews I collected when Michael and I were in D.C.
- 0:39Speaker 1: over on Friday, last Friday. So this one is with
- 0:43Speaker 1: Callie Means. I'm going to play it at the end
- 0:44Speaker 1: of the show. It's a really great interview. Callie Means is,
- 0:47Speaker 1: of course, a top advisor to RFK Jr. He's really
- 0:51Speaker 1: spearheading the Maha movement. And just as a very brave
- 0:54Speaker 1: man who's willing to actually follow the science, and not
- 0:58Speaker 1: be intimidated by people who would like to control what
- 1:02Speaker 1: it means to be healthy in terms of big pharma
- 1:07Speaker 1: and big food. He's just completely removed from that. He
- 1:10Speaker 1: really just cares about human flourishing and he wants that
- 1:13Speaker 1: for the rest of the country as well as RFK Jr.
- 1:15Speaker 1: So I have a lot to talk about with him.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I had a lot to talk about with him. We
- 1:19Speaker 1: also got into some of the autism controversy that's happening.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So it's a pretty spicy interview. I hope you guys
- 1:24Speaker 1: will stay tuned for that. But I do have a
- 1:25Speaker 1: lot of headlines to get to Today, a foreign-born Democrat
- 1:30Speaker 1: files a symbolic impeachment resolution against President Trump. The Daily
- 1:36Speaker 1: Mail falsely claims that I sent trolls after DHS Secretary
- 1:42Speaker 1: Kristi Noem. Trump orders English tests for truck drivers. Trump
- 1:46Speaker 1: considers giving persecuted British citizens asylum. Catholics accuse the Obama
- 1:51Speaker 1: admin of installing Pope Francis at the last papal conclave.
- 1:56Speaker 1: And the New York Times admits that health and fitness
- 1:58Speaker 1: is actually MAGA. All this on Bungina Report, early edition.
- 2:12Speaker 2: This is Congressman Shree Thanedar. Donald Trump has already done
- 2:17Speaker 2: real damage to our democracy, but defying a unanimous 9-0
- 2:23Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruling? That has to be the final straw.
- 2:26Speaker 2: It's time we impeach Donald J.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Trump.
- 2:30Speaker 2: The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia must be
- 2:34Speaker 2: allowed to return and receive due process. Trump ignored it.
- 2:39Speaker 2: He ignored the Constitution. He ignored the very checks and
- 2:44Speaker 2: balances that keep our democracy intact. This isn't an isolated incident.
- 2:50Speaker 2: It's part of a dangerous, deliberate pattern. That's why Today,
- 2:56Speaker 2: I introduced a resolution to impeach Donald J. Trump, outlining
- 3:02Speaker 2: seven articles of impeachment.
- 3:05Speaker 1: That was Representative Sri Thanandar. And you guys, it does
- 3:10Speaker 1: look like an SNL sketch. You guys are totally right
- 3:12Speaker 1: about that. I'm seeing the comments. I can't even believe
- 3:14Speaker 1: that this is real. It is real. Yesterday, he introduced
- 3:18Speaker 1: seven articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump. And the
- 3:22Speaker 1: impeachment resolution... accuses the president of high crimes and misdemeanors
- 3:27Speaker 1: over supposed constitutional violations related to taxpayer funds, deportations, tariffs, and,
- 3:34Speaker 1: of course, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOJ. The
- 3:38Speaker 1: final straw that this representative says for these articles of
- 3:42Speaker 1: impeachment is actually when Trump failed to return El Salvador,
- 3:47Speaker 1: the El Salvador MS-13 gang member and alleged wife-beater, I'm
- 3:51Speaker 1: talking about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. So that was the last
- 3:54Speaker 1: straw for Democrats. Out of everything, the thing they were
- 3:59Speaker 1: most offended about was that Trump failed to bring back
- 4:03Speaker 1: an illegal gang member into this country. That is what
- 4:07Speaker 1: is the most disturbing to Democrats, apparently. We're going to
- 4:11Speaker 1: talk about him being a foreign-born individual. If you notice,
- 4:14Speaker 1: he's got an accent. But I just want to say
- 4:17Speaker 1: that That is what Democrats have decided to put their
- 4:23Speaker 1: foot down on, I guess. Enough is enough when it
- 4:26Speaker 1: comes to, I guess, getting rid of illegal migrants. They
- 4:30Speaker 1: can't stand for the mass deportations. They have to oppose it.
- 4:33Speaker 1: That is where their real ire lies. And we now
- 4:38Speaker 1: are going, I guess, to symbolically impeach President Trump because,
- 4:43Speaker 1: of course, they can't really actually impeach him. without the numbers.
- 4:47Speaker 1: It's a Republican-controlled House and Senate. But they're doing it
- 4:50Speaker 1: anyways to signal to the Democratic Party that they actually
- 4:53Speaker 1: have something going on, that they're doing something. And it's
- 4:57Speaker 1: very performative. It's very silly. It's also, of course, very
- 5:01Speaker 1: offensive to the American people that what they're willing to
- 5:04Speaker 1: file articles of impeachment over is that Trump won't bring
- 5:08Speaker 1: back an illegal criminal into this country. And again, did
- 5:12Speaker 1: you all notice that this guy had an accent. This individual, Sri,
- 5:19Speaker 1: was born in India. And yet for some reason, he
- 5:22Speaker 1: is sitting in the US Congress trying to impeach an
- 5:25Speaker 1: American president. And this is what happens when a nation
- 5:28Speaker 1: forgets who it is. Foreign-born politicians raised under completely different
- 5:34Speaker 1: systems and loyalties have no business deciding who governs America.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Citizenship papers don't magically erase decades of foreign influence. They
- 5:45Speaker 1: certainly don't qualify someone to sit in judgment over our Constitution,
- 5:49Speaker 1: our leaders, or our way of life. And several of
- 5:52Speaker 1: these D.C. judges going after President Trump are foreign-born as well.
- 5:57Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the show. I think it's
- 5:59Speaker 1: wildly inappropriate to have, irrespective of what their politics are,
- 6:04Speaker 1: anyone foreign-born in our Congress or in our judiciary system.
- 6:09Speaker 1: We need to ban foreign-born individuals from holding positions of
- 6:13Speaker 1: power in this country Congress, the courts, all of it.
- 6:17Speaker 1: America's institutions should be controlled by Americans in the fullest sense.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Those whose identity and loyalty and instincts are shaped here
- 6:28Speaker 1: in this country, not imported from somewhere else. And allowing
- 6:32Speaker 1: foreigners to make decisions about our laws and our leaders
- 6:35Speaker 1: is national suicide. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. It's
- 6:39Speaker 1: an open invitation to sabotage, to infiltrate, to slow and
- 6:45Speaker 1: to deliberately erode American sovereignty. That's clearly what this is.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Imagine if I moved to India as an American woman.
- 6:54Speaker 1: I get my Indian citizenship and then I immediately start
- 6:57Speaker 1: bossing everyone around and trying to impeach their president and
- 7:01Speaker 1: rewrite their constitution. That would be absurd. No one would
- 7:04Speaker 1: want that. But that's what's happening here. We have foreign
- 7:09Speaker 1: born individuals controlling what we do in our country. If
- 7:17Speaker 1: I did that in India, they would throw me out.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And rightfully so. Every nation on earth understands this basic principle,
- 7:26Speaker 1: except for us, apparently. And it's time to wake up.
- 7:29Speaker 1: America belongs to Americans. No papers can make someone an American.
- 7:37Speaker 1: And I know legally, sure, you can argue that that's
- 7:40Speaker 1: the case. But It's deeper than that. What it means
- 7:43Speaker 1: to be an American is more meaningful than just the paperwork.
- 7:47Speaker 1: What I mean is America isn't just filing naturalization paperwork
- 7:51Speaker 1: or a list of abstract values. It's a culture, a tradition,
- 7:55Speaker 1: a way of life that's been handed down through generations.
- 7:59Speaker 1: It's something you're formed by through family, history, language, place,
- 8:04Speaker 1: not something that you sign up for like a gym membership.
- 8:08Speaker 1: If you're born here, if your roots are here, if
- 8:11Speaker 1: your family story is woven into the fabric of this country,
- 8:14Speaker 1: you understand America in a way that no outsider really can.
- 8:19Speaker 1: You feel it in your bones. Someone who comes here
- 8:22Speaker 1: from halfway across the world, someone raised with different customs
- 8:25Speaker 1: and loyalties and instincts, no matter how well-meaning, simply doesn't
- 8:29Speaker 1: have the same native bond to this country. They don't.
- 8:33Speaker 1: They're tourists in a home they didn't build, and their
- 8:36Speaker 1: view of America is, is always going to be abstract
- 8:38Speaker 1: and secondhand. And maybe after generations, they could get to
- 8:41Speaker 1: the point of native-born Americans. But we have to be
- 8:47Speaker 1: willing to say the uncomfortable truth that there is a distinction.
- 8:51Speaker 1: And we can't allow people to govern us, to sit
- 8:57Speaker 1: in our courts and rewrite our laws who are not
- 9:00Speaker 1: native-born Americans. That is a mistake. Nations aren't just ideas.
- 9:05Speaker 1: They are living, breathing civilizations with memories and traditions, and
- 9:09Speaker 1: those who belong to them in the deepest sense must
- 9:12Speaker 1: be the ones to protect and govern them. Again, America
- 9:14Speaker 1: belongs to Americans, real Americans, not just anyone who files
- 9:19Speaker 1: out the right forms. All right, we are going to
- 9:22Speaker 1: take a quick break here. I have a lot to
- 9:24Speaker 1: get to today, you guys. There's some really interesting stories
- 9:27Speaker 1: about Maha. Even before we get to Cali Means, we're
- 9:31Speaker 1: going to talk about the left actually admitting that looking
- 9:34Speaker 1: hot and working out is Republican, is not left-wing, and
- 9:37Speaker 1: a few other stories. I have some tea for you
- 9:39Speaker 1: guys this morning. Some tea, meaning like Gen Z lingo.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I got the gossip for you because yesterday I was
- 9:47Speaker 1: in the Daily Mail, and I kid you guys not,
- 9:50Speaker 1: this is the article headline. MAGA mayhem as transport sex
- 9:54Speaker 1: daughter directs trolls to ice Barbie Kristi Noem. This is
- 9:59Speaker 1: fake news, you guys. we're going to fact check it
- 10:01Speaker 1: right here. I did not direct any trolls to go
- 10:04Speaker 1: after Kristi Noem. And let's back up a little bit.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I'm going to explain the context here because on this show,
- 10:09Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys listen to the daily mail,
- 10:11Speaker 1: you read the daily mail. I don't care. I have
- 10:13Speaker 1: to set the record straight on this. So a few
- 10:16Speaker 1: days ago, my dad tweeted out to all of America.
- 10:19Speaker 1: He said, Tell me how we can make traveling with
- 10:23Speaker 1: family great again. There's no better place to start a
- 10:26Speaker 1: family than the USA, so I want to make it
- 10:28Speaker 1: easier for you to travel with your kids. Here's your chance.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Tell me, your transportation secretary, what I can do to
- 10:33Speaker 1: make travel easier for your family. Send me your best ideas.
- 10:38Speaker 1: This tweet says, backfire a little bit. And well, first,
- 10:41Speaker 1: let me just let me just play the video that
- 10:44Speaker 1: my dad attached to this tweet. It's of my parents
- 10:48Speaker 1: flying with all of my siblings. And you can see
- 10:51Speaker 1: all of the checked bags that they've got. Take a
- 10:53Speaker 1: listen to this. Lots of checked bags. It's a big
- 11:05Speaker 1: hassle to travel with like nine kids. Anyways, so he
- 11:16Speaker 1: posted that. It was a cute video, very well-meaning tweet,
- 11:19Speaker 1: just like, America, tell me what you think. Give me
- 11:21Speaker 1: your ideas, transparency, that kind of thing. And the overwhelming
- 11:28Speaker 1: majority of people were very upset with TSA. And what's
- 11:32Speaker 1: interesting about them being upset about TSA is actually part
- 11:35Speaker 1: of why my dad is doing this is he is
- 11:37Speaker 1: trying to bring back the all-American family road trip. It's
- 11:42Speaker 1: this new project that he's working on. And he wants
- 11:45Speaker 1: to just make road tripping great again. And my dad
- 11:48Speaker 1: actually took us on a lot of road trips when
- 11:49Speaker 1: we were little. Twice, I believe at least twice, we
- 11:53Speaker 1: drove from northern Wisconsin to Arizona to visit my grandparents.
- 11:57Speaker 1: And I was like 9 or 10 when it happened
- 11:59Speaker 1: and then a And I remember it was so cramped
- 12:02Speaker 1: in the car. It was so uncomfortable. We drove like
- 12:05Speaker 1: through the night because my parents and my dad was like,
- 12:07Speaker 1: my dad's a cheapskate. He was like, we're just not
- 12:09Speaker 1: going to stay at a hotel. We're going to sleep
- 12:11Speaker 1: in the car. It was like a very serious road trip.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I got dry eye. It was exhausting. It was also
- 12:16Speaker 1: so fun. It was such a bonding experience for our family.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I loved it. I look really fondly on it. So anyways,
- 12:22Speaker 1: my dad is trying to bring back the old American
- 12:24Speaker 1: road trip. He's trying to get ideas. How can we
- 12:26Speaker 1: make travel better for families? And the overwhelming response from
- 12:30Speaker 1: America was, Sean Duffy, get rid of TSA. That's what
- 12:34Speaker 1: he said. Everybody's like, get rid of TSA or make
- 12:36Speaker 1: TSA easier or whatever. And I totally agree. TSA sucks.
- 12:40Speaker 1: The thing is, my dad can't do anything about TSA.
- 12:44Speaker 1: So I tweeted a couple nights ago to everyone suggesting
- 12:48Speaker 1: my dad get rid of TSA. He can't. TSA falls
- 12:51Speaker 1: under DHS. Take it up with at sec gnome. And
- 12:54Speaker 1: you should. That's it. That's all I said. And then
- 12:57Speaker 1: the Daily Mail decided to write an article about this
- 13:00Speaker 1: stupid tweet. And again, my dad isn't in charge of TSA.
- 13:05Speaker 1: TSA does suck. Kristi Noem didn't create TSA, but she
- 13:09Speaker 1: has power over it, of course. And so I said,
- 13:13Speaker 1: just kind of lightheartedly talk to Kristi Noem about TSA.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I wasn't directing people to troll her. The article reads,
- 13:20Speaker 1: the daughter of U.S. Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, told
- 13:24Speaker 1: trolls to back off her dad and instead direct their
- 13:27Speaker 1: anger At Ice Barbie, Kristi Noem blasting those who believe
- 13:30Speaker 1: her dad should get rid of TSA. Okay, this is like, again,
- 13:33Speaker 1: totally off base. I wasn't telling anyone to harass her.
- 13:36Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate for Kristi Noem that she's inherited such
- 13:39Speaker 1: a problem, the TSA. I do think the TSA needs
- 13:42Speaker 1: to be gotten rid of. The TSA is a bloated,
- 13:46Speaker 1: incompetent agency that consistently fails at its one supposed job,
- 13:51Speaker 1: which is keeping Americans safe. Over and over, undercover tests
- 13:55Speaker 1: have shown that the TSA... misses weapons and explosives more
- 13:58Speaker 1: than 90% of the time, proving that the entire system
- 14:02Speaker 1: is just security theater and not really about real protection. TSA,
- 14:07Speaker 1: the entire concept, really is a violation of constitutional rights,
- 14:10Speaker 1: subjecting travelers to invasive warrantless searches and pat-downs that would
- 14:15Speaker 1: be illegal anywhere outside of an airport. No probable cause,
- 14:19Speaker 1: no individualized suspicion, just blanket suspicion of every citizen who
- 14:24Speaker 1: dares to travel. It is A federal agency that treats
- 14:27Speaker 1: the American people not as free citizens, but as potential criminals,
- 14:31Speaker 1: potential terrorists to be groped, interrogated, humiliated. And by the way,
- 14:35Speaker 1: those machines emit radiation. So you stand in and again,
- 14:40Speaker 1: you look like a terrorist. And if you try to
- 14:42Speaker 1: opt out of the face scan, they all get mad
- 14:44Speaker 1: because for some reason it's a personal grievance against the
- 14:47Speaker 1: TSA agents if you opt out of the scan. And
- 14:50Speaker 1: they lie about deleting your biometric data. They actually, if
- 14:52Speaker 1: they're running a test of some kind, which I don't
- 14:55Speaker 1: think they tell you about beforehand, they can keep your
- 14:57Speaker 1: biometric data at DHS for over a year at least.
- 15:02Speaker 1: All of this is to say that I do hate
- 15:04Speaker 1: the TSA. I think people should express their concerns and
- 15:07Speaker 1: ideas to Secretary Kristi Noem. But that harasser or something,
- 15:12Speaker 1: which the Daily Mail seemed to imply by my well-meaning tweet,
- 15:15Speaker 1: there is no MAGA mayhem, as the article suggests, And
- 15:19Speaker 1: my dad, I called him last night. I was like, hey,
- 15:21Speaker 1: I didn't mean anything by this. And he was like, yeah, no,
- 15:24Speaker 1: I know. No worries. And he plans to actually speak
- 15:26Speaker 1: with Secretary Noem about my tweet that I didn't mean
- 15:30Speaker 1: anything by it, but also talk about TSA. Because even
- 15:33Speaker 1: though the TSA doesn't fall under his purview, he wants
- 15:37Speaker 1: to actually have a conversation with her about how we
- 15:39Speaker 1: can make things easier. on travelers because it has gotten
- 15:43Speaker 1: out of control. So there's a communication line opening up,
- 15:46Speaker 1: even though it's not under his purview, he still cares
- 15:49Speaker 1: about it and making a travel experience better. But if
- 15:52Speaker 1: you have anything other than TSA related suggestions for my dad,
- 15:58Speaker 1: you should find that post. It's on the SecDuffy account
- 16:01Speaker 1: and you can make suggestions about how we can make
- 16:03Speaker 1: travel better for families. I really, I hope you guys
- 16:06Speaker 1: do that because it's a really great thing that he's
- 16:09Speaker 1: working on. bringing back the American road trip. I love it.
- 16:12Speaker 1: And I don't want this TSA little controversy to get
- 16:15Speaker 1: in the way of this. So with that, let's talk
- 16:19Speaker 1: about something else that my dad did yesterday. He was
- 16:22Speaker 1: in the Oval Office because President Trump signed an executive
- 16:27Speaker 1: order requiring truck drivers to pass English literacy tests as
- 16:31Speaker 1: a non-negotiable safety requirement. Now, Democrats are not happy about
- 16:36Speaker 1: this for whatever reason. Representative Joaquin Castro wrote this on
- 16:40Speaker 1: X yesterday. This targeted attack on the Spanish-speaking community will
- 16:44Speaker 1: lead to more racial profiling and prevent hardworking Americans from
- 16:49Speaker 1: participating in our economy and transportation industry. And my friend
- 16:54Speaker 1: Savannah Hernandez had an excellent response to this tweet. I'm
- 16:58Speaker 1: just going to read it for you guys. She says, One,
- 17:00Speaker 1: I have never met a U.S.-born citizen who can't speak English.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And two, All of our road signs are in English,
- 17:06Speaker 1: so drivers should know how to read them. And that
- 17:08Speaker 1: really is the central point here. Public safety. Truck drivers
- 17:13Speaker 1: are responsible for operating massive heavy-duty vehicles. Road signs, hazard warnings,
- 17:19Speaker 1: detour instructions, emergency communication, they're all issued in English across
- 17:24Speaker 1: the U.S. because we're an English-speaking country. Again, this comes
- 17:27Speaker 1: back to people running our country and doing things here
- 17:29Speaker 1: who are not actually American, but I digress.
- 17:32Speaker 4: If a driver.
- 17:34Speaker 1: cannot quickly and accurately read and understand these instructions, they're
- 17:38Speaker 1: putting not only themselves at risk, but everybody who passes
- 17:42Speaker 1: them on the road. It's a total public safety threat.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Imagine a driver unable to read, bridge out, or detour ahead.
- 17:51Speaker 1: That is a potential deadly disaster in the making. It's
- 17:54Speaker 1: not racist. It's not anti-Spanish. This is just public safety.
- 17:58Speaker 1: And again, it comes back to the Abreu Garcia situation.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Why is it that the feelings of foreign-born individuals seems
- 18:06Speaker 1: to always come before the safety of American citizens. We're
- 18:09Speaker 1: going to impeach the president because he won't bring back
- 18:12Speaker 1: an illegal migrant to this country, a Maryland man wife-beater.
- 18:17Speaker 1: He's not a Maryland man. He's an El Salvadoran immigrant,
- 18:21Speaker 1: a legal immigrant. And the priorities, again, guys, never seem
- 18:25Speaker 1: to be the American people, never seem to be public safety.
- 18:29Speaker 1: It always seems to be, frankly, the opposite of that.
- 18:32Speaker 5: All right.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Yesterday, White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt hosted a new
- 18:37Speaker 1: media journalist and gave them opportunities to ask the Trump
- 18:42Speaker 1: admin questions as this administration is celebrating the president's first
- 18:47Speaker 1: 100 days. And one question in particular yesterday really struck me.
- 18:52Speaker 1: A U.K. journalist asked if the Trump admin would consider
- 18:55Speaker 1: giving asylum to certain British citizens. Take a listen.
- 19:01Speaker 3: In Britain, we have had over a quarter of a
- 19:04Speaker 3: million people issued non-crime hate incidents. As we speak, there
- 19:10Speaker 3: are people in prison for quite literally reposting memes. We
- 19:14Speaker 3: have extensive prison sentences for tweets, social media posts, and
- 19:23Speaker 3: general free speech issues. Would the Trump administration consider political
- 19:29Speaker 3: asylum for British citizens in such a situation?
- 19:32Speaker 6: Well, to your latter question, it's a very good one.
- 19:35Speaker 6: I have not heard that proposed to the president, nor
- 19:37Speaker 6: have I spoken to him about that idea. But I
- 19:39Speaker 6: certainly can and talk to our national security team and
- 19:42Speaker 6: see if it's something the administration would entertain. Yes, please.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Okay, so this was a fascinating exchange, and I hope
- 19:51Speaker 1: that the admin actually does consider this. What we are
- 19:55Speaker 1: witnessing in the United Kingdom is no longer the rule
- 19:58Speaker 1: of law in defense of liberty, but the weaponization of
- 20:02Speaker 1: law against the very foundations of a free society. Just
- 20:07Speaker 1: as America is a free society, has extended asylum to
- 20:10Speaker 1: African farmers who are facing racial violence and dispossession in
- 20:15Speaker 1: South Africa. I think it makes sense to consider opening
- 20:19Speaker 1: the door to Christian Westerners like those in the UK
- 20:24Speaker 1: who are being punished for exercising basic freedoms, particularly when
- 20:28Speaker 1: it comes to free speech. I mean, you can be arrested, again,
- 20:32Speaker 1: for silently praying outside of an abortion clinic, for sending
- 20:36Speaker 1: out a tweet, that the government finds distasteful, for saying,
- 20:41Speaker 1: I can't hear you, you'll be questioned for potential hate
- 20:43Speaker 1: speech to somebody with an accent at a restaurant. We
- 20:47Speaker 1: covered that a few days ago. Now, of course, my
- 20:50Speaker 1: ultimate position is that America should implement mass deportations. And
- 20:56Speaker 1: I'm even good with closing the border entirely for a time.
- 21:02Speaker 1: What I mean is closing it not just to illegal
- 21:05Speaker 1: migrants that of course is true but also legal immigration
- 21:10Speaker 1: until we have some time to gain control of our
- 21:13Speaker 1: cultural identity and to bring back economic prosperity because what
- 21:17Speaker 1: we've done right now by flooding our country with mass
- 21:20Speaker 1: even legal immigration is devalue labor it benefits major corporations
- 21:25Speaker 1: it's great if you're amazon it's great if you're walmart
- 21:28Speaker 1: but if you're a regular american you're looking for a
- 21:30Speaker 1: job this is very harmful to citizens Even well-paying jobs
- 21:35Speaker 1: in the tech industry are going to foreign-born Americans who
- 21:40Speaker 1: can work for lesser hours, or I'm sorry, for lesser salary.
- 21:46Speaker 1: So there is a real problem with this in this country.
- 21:49Speaker 1: I'm interested in potentially closing the borders for good. I
- 21:53Speaker 1: hear those arguments. But if we're going to extend asylum
- 21:57Speaker 1: to anyone, it should be people who share our civilizational values.
- 22:02Speaker 1: who revere faith, free speech, family, and who will assimilate
- 22:06Speaker 1: seamlessly into the American cultural fabric. And in an era
- 22:11Speaker 1: when our border is flooded with individuals who neither respect
- 22:16Speaker 1: our laws nor our way of life, prioritizing persecuted Christians
- 22:21Speaker 1: and other Westerners from the West is not just compassionate.
- 22:24Speaker 1: I think it's actually common sense. So I'd be fascinated
- 22:27Speaker 1: to see what the Trump admin comes back with if
- 22:29Speaker 1: they seriously consider this. I think they should. All right,
- 22:32Speaker 1: I want to get to this next story because yesterday
- 22:36Speaker 1: the Vatican confirmed that the conclave, the papal conclave to
- 22:40Speaker 1: elect the new pope will start on May 7th. And
- 22:45Speaker 1: I was thinking about the conclave and I wanted to
- 22:48Speaker 1: revisit the last conclave a little bit. So you guys
- 22:52Speaker 1: understand some of the stakes here and potential players who
- 22:55Speaker 1: could be impacting what's about to take place in Rome.
- 22:59Speaker 1: But first, I want to share with you what my
- 23:00Speaker 1: former colleague, John Daniel Davidson, shared on Acts. He wrote this,
- 23:05Speaker 1: The Catholic Church has never taught that the Holy Spirit
- 23:08Speaker 1: elects the Pope or that the Cardinals are protected from
- 23:11Speaker 1: error in selecting a Pope. The College of Cardinals, not
- 23:16Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, selects the Pope. Yes, the Cardinals are
- 23:19Speaker 1: supposed to be guided by the Holy Spirit in their choice,
- 23:22Speaker 1: but that's not the same as saying the Holy Spirit
- 23:23Speaker 1: chooses the Pope directly. This is a really important thing
- 23:27Speaker 1: to understand. about the papal conclave. There is a lot
- 23:30Speaker 1: of confusion about infallibility and people believing that the Pope
- 23:34Speaker 1: was selected by God himself. This is not what the
- 23:37Speaker 1: Catholic Church believes about the Pope. They think that the
- 23:40Speaker 1: cardinals should be guided by the Holy Spirit and oftentimes
- 23:44Speaker 1: are guided by the Holy Spirit, but that doesn't mean
- 23:46Speaker 1: that the Holy Spirit is coming down and selecting this
- 23:48Speaker 1: man and that that's the right person 100% of the time.
- 23:52Speaker 1: This is not what the Catholic Church believes. And why
- 23:54Speaker 1: is it significant? Well, some really strange things happened before
- 23:59Speaker 1: the last papal conclave that make you wonder how much
- 24:03Speaker 1: of a role the Holy Spirit really played in picking
- 24:06Speaker 1: Pope Francis. What do I mean? Well, a leaked 2012 email,
- 24:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through the timeline here a little bit
- 24:12Speaker 1: with you guys. A leaked 2012 email from John Podesta
- 24:17Speaker 1: revealed plans for a Catholic spring, meaning the Catholic version
- 24:22Speaker 1: of an Arab spring. And recall that John Podesta said,
- 24:25Speaker 1: was a top advisor for the Obama admin, specifically for
- 24:28Speaker 1: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and the Obama admin was
- 24:32Speaker 1: notorious for covert regime change operations around the world. So
- 24:37Speaker 1: keep that in mind as you're hearing Obama admin discussions
- 24:40Speaker 1: of a Catholic spring. And then, in late 2012, the
- 24:45Speaker 1: SWIFT network, influenced by U.S. financial power, cut off the
- 24:50Speaker 1: Vatican Bank's ability to conduct international transactions. strangling its cash flow.
- 24:56Speaker 1: And then something called the Vati Leaks, a scandal, blew up,
- 25:01Speaker 1: which leaked papal documents exposing Vatican corruption and chaos within
- 25:07Speaker 1: the church. And then on February 11th, 2013, Pope Benedict
- 25:11Speaker 1: announced his resignation, the first papal abdication in nearly 600 years.
- 25:19Speaker 1: And within days of his exit, just a few days after,
- 25:22Speaker 1: The swift restrictions on the Vatican Bank were conveniently lifted.
- 25:28Speaker 1: And by March 2013, the conclave elected Cardinal Regoglio, now
- 25:33Speaker 1: Pope Francis, a political progressive figure, cozy with left-wing causes and,
- 25:38Speaker 1: of course, backed by globalist elites. And what I mean
- 25:41Speaker 1: by telling you all this is that I'm a Catholic
- 25:45Speaker 1: and Catholic. I trust in God's ultimate providence over the church,
- 25:49Speaker 1: but I cannot also be naive about the realities of
- 25:52Speaker 1: human ambition, political pressure, spiritual warfare. The conclave is made
- 25:57Speaker 1: up of men, fallible, influenceable men who are not immune
- 26:02Speaker 1: to the forces at work in the world. And when
- 26:04Speaker 1: you consider the scale of the Catholic church with over
- 26:07Speaker 1: a billion souls spanning every continent, it becomes clear that
- 26:11Speaker 1: why outside powers might seek to influence its leadership and
- 26:15Speaker 1: this conclave. The stakes are enormous, and the forces that
- 26:20Speaker 1: shape global politics and finance know that. That's why it's
- 26:24Speaker 1: absolutely essential, whether you're a Catholic or not, to pray
- 26:28Speaker 1: for this conclave. We have to pray that the cardinals
- 26:31Speaker 1: do actually listen to the Holy Spirit over the voice
- 26:34Speaker 1: of the world. We have to pray that they have
- 26:37Speaker 1: the courage to resist the temptation to elect a figure
- 26:39Speaker 1: who will accommodate the spirit of the age, rather than
- 26:43Speaker 1: stand firm in the timeless truths of faith. This moment
- 26:46Speaker 1: is not just another internal church event. It will have
- 26:49Speaker 1: ramifications for Catholics everywhere, for the defense of truth itself.
- 26:53Speaker 1: And given how much seemed to be at play in 2013,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and again, this is speculation, I'm just giving you guys
- 26:59Speaker 1: the timeline here, but I think it's fair to assume
- 27:02Speaker 1: that there are corruptible forces within the conclave and that
- 27:06Speaker 1: it's essential we pray they are truly guided by the
- 27:10Speaker 1: Holy Spirit. All right, I want to get to this
- 27:12Speaker 1: health story before we cover Cali Means. And so you guys,
- 27:16Speaker 1: the New York Times ran an incredible article this week.
- 27:20Speaker 1: It's titled, A Progressive Mind in a MAGA Body. And
- 27:24Speaker 1: this is such an unfathomably insane self-owned, I can't even
- 27:29Speaker 1: believe that it was written out loud. So we've talked
- 27:32Speaker 1: about him before. This article is a profile on a
- 27:34Speaker 1: guy named Hassan Piker. He is this famous left-wing streamer
- 27:39Speaker 1: And he's actually the nephew of Cenk Uygur of the
- 27:42Speaker 1: Young Turks. Anyways, New York Times goes on and on
- 27:45Speaker 1: in this piece about how much Hassan can squat, how
- 27:49Speaker 1: he eats so great, how hot his arms are, and
- 27:52Speaker 1: also how amazing his politics are. The article reads, Mr.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Piker is a bro. He likes weapons, inhales supplements, uses
- 28:00Speaker 1: nicotine pouches, and ruminates endlessly on the legacy of LeBron
- 28:04Speaker 1: James Jr., But unlike many of his contemporaries, Mr. Piker,
- 28:07Speaker 1: an avowed socialist, is just as at ease dressing in
- 28:12Speaker 1: French maid drag as he is on a basketball court.
- 28:15Speaker 5: In his.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Well, I think he's trying to be a... Yes, I
- 28:21Speaker 1: wish he would quit the nicotine pouches, but no, not
- 28:24Speaker 1: because of Hassan. I think he's trying to be like
- 28:28Speaker 1: a right-wing, I don't know, like, He just wants to
- 28:33Speaker 1: seem right-wing in a lot of ways. And then he
- 28:36Speaker 1: has all these bizarre left-wing beliefs that people in the
- 28:40Speaker 1: New York Times are fawning over, like apparently dressing in
- 28:42Speaker 1: French made drag. But anyways, his article continues, on his streams,
- 28:46Speaker 1: conversations about dating, gaming, or exercising often turn into rants,
- 28:50Speaker 1: supporting organized labor, universal healthcare, or LGBTQ rights. He will
- 28:55Speaker 1: just as frequently pivot from criticizing the Democratic Party or
- 28:58Speaker 1: the Israeli government to slamming right-wing comedians. This fluency between
- 29:03Speaker 1: culture and ideology has led many to brand Mr. Piker
- 29:06Speaker 1: a Joe Rogan of the left. If Mr. Rogan had
- 29:08Speaker 1: a mop top and painted his nails, because yes, Hasan
- 29:11Speaker 1: Piker also paints his nails. Here is Hasan Piker in
- 29:16Speaker 1: this French maid drag in Japan, by the way. I
- 29:23Speaker 1: think this exudes masculinity. This is like the epitome of masculinity.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Wouldn't you guys say, what are the commenters saying?
- 29:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:30Speaker 5: So what if it's, what if, I mean, just off
- 29:32Speaker 5: the top of my head, what if it's side, sway, ear, ear.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Something like that.
- 29:39Speaker 4: Soft.
- 29:40Speaker 1: He's literally dressed like a French maid doing ear, sexual
- 29:49Speaker 1: gestures and postures. I don't even know. I don't even
- 29:52Speaker 1: know what's going on here. But apparently, this is the
- 29:56Speaker 1: epitome of masculinity to the New York Times. Remember, whenever
- 30:00Speaker 1: your wrist goes over 45 degrees, you're gay. Michael doesn't
- 30:06Speaker 1: like his little wrist movements here. You guys, apparently this
- 30:10Speaker 1: exudes masculinity. This will win over men, allegedly. What do
- 30:14Speaker 1: you guys think? Do you think this is going to
- 30:15Speaker 1: win over men? A lot of things to unpack here.
- 30:18Speaker 1: I think for years, progressives have treated physical fitness with suspicion.
- 30:23Speaker 1: They've demonized it as toxic masculinity, fascist aesthetics, even fat phobic.
- 30:30Speaker 1: And article after article has accused exercise of being a
- 30:33Speaker 1: gateway to far right radicalization. And basic masculine virtues of strength, endurance,
- 30:38Speaker 1: discipline have been pathologized as threats to society. Gains are
- 30:43Speaker 1: supposed to be a right wing dog whistle to the
- 30:46Speaker 1: point where physical fitness is now MAGA. And the New
- 30:49Speaker 1: York Times just admitted it in the headline. And it's
- 30:52Speaker 1: a sign that left-wingers are weak and pathetic. But make
- 30:55Speaker 1: no mistake, Hasan Piker is not the left-wing populist messiah
- 31:00Speaker 1: that Democrats need at this time. He may inhale supplements
- 31:05Speaker 1: and ruminate endlessly on the legacy of LeBron James, pump
- 31:09Speaker 1: some iron or whatever, as the article notes, but culturally
- 31:13Speaker 1: and ideologically, Hasan Piker is still the product of the
- 31:16Speaker 1: ivory tower. Piker's takes on race, sex, and politics are academic, elitist,
- 31:22Speaker 1: and divorced from the daily struggles of working-class Americans. He
- 31:25Speaker 1: wears French-made outfits in Japan, flirts ironically with grinder interviewers,
- 31:30Speaker 1: and lectures from a chic West Hollywood townhouse. This is
- 31:33Speaker 1: not a man who speaks to the concerns of truck drivers,
- 31:36Speaker 1: factory workers, or young men crushed by the collapse of
- 31:39Speaker 1: a real economy. The hard truth is that no amount
- 31:42Speaker 1: of protein shakes or Romanian deadlifts can save the left
- 31:46Speaker 1: from its own rot. Piker's aesthetics... is just pure surface.
- 31:51Speaker 1: A bro-paint job slapped over a fundamentally radical out-of-touch ideology.
- 31:55Speaker 1: And as long as he continues to champion open borders
- 31:58Speaker 1: and gender theory and foreign policy positions that make middle
- 32:01Speaker 1: America wince, he will never be a unifying figure. It's
- 32:04Speaker 1: kind of pathetic that the New York Times is lauding
- 32:09Speaker 1: him as that. His strength and his swagger may draw viewers,
- 32:12Speaker 1: but the soul of his project remains hostile to the
- 32:15Speaker 1: values of the everyman and the hope's that they have.
- 32:20Speaker 1: The left can parade Hassan Piker around as their hot
- 32:23Speaker 1: jacked icon. They can do it all they want. But
- 32:26Speaker 1: in the real world, where strength still serves the nation
- 32:29Speaker 1: and not just the algorithm, Hassan Piker is a mirage,
- 32:32Speaker 1: not a movement. And with that, I want to actually
- 32:35Speaker 1: talk about some real health issues. I'm going to turn
- 32:39Speaker 1: over to this Cali Means interview because, guys, this was
- 32:42Speaker 1: so fascinating, so wonderful. And it underscores really how the
- 32:47Speaker 1: political right has truly embraced Maha, has truly embraced health
- 32:52Speaker 1: and fitness and wellness in a way that even the
- 32:54Speaker 1: New York Times admits the left has completely abandoned. I
- 32:58Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed this interview. Thank you so much
- 33:01Speaker 1: for being here, Callie.
- 33:01Speaker 5: Oh, it's great to be here.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we've had a couple conversations before, but Maha
- 33:06Speaker 1: has really, it's just exploded. And I feel like the
- 33:09Speaker 1: whole country's on board.
- 33:10Speaker 5: It was amazing. When my sister and I really started
- 33:14Speaker 5: pounding the pavement three years ago, I met with a
- 33:16Speaker 5: bunch of senators And they said, well, we love these
- 33:18Speaker 5: ideas of combating childhood chronic disease, but we're not really
- 33:22Speaker 5: seeing calls about this issue. We're not really seeing it
- 33:24Speaker 5: as a political issue. I was talking to your mom
- 33:27Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and she was the only
- 33:29Speaker 5: person on the media talking about these chronic disease issues.
- 33:32Speaker 5: Why are kids getting so sick? Why do so many
- 33:34Speaker 5: kids have autism, diabetes, obesity? And she was telling me
- 33:37Speaker 5: that it was really resonating on the Fox segment. And
- 33:40Speaker 5: there was just something off to me that there was
- 33:43Speaker 5: clearly this frustration in the country. Joe Rogan's talking about it.
- 33:46Speaker 5: Independent media is talking about it. But the major political
- 33:49Speaker 5: candidates weren't talking about it. So it was just incredible
- 33:51Speaker 5: to see what happened the past year. I mean, your
- 33:53Speaker 5: mom was saying this is going to be the sleeperish
- 33:56Speaker 5: of the campaign. It really was. I mean, with Bobby
- 33:59Speaker 5: Kennedy bonding with President Trump. And I saw their conversations,
- 34:03Speaker 5: some of them. before the endorsement, they were emotional about this.
- 34:06Speaker 5: They really bonded over making this a top issue of
- 34:11Speaker 5: this administration. And it was real meaningful. I mean, this
- 34:15Speaker 5: was not a political coalescing or anything cynical. This was
- 34:21Speaker 5: two men really wanting to put this issue front and center.
- 34:23Speaker 5: It did. You had Maha moms come out in force.
- 34:26Speaker 5: You had independents and young people vote 50-50 for Trump,
- 34:29Speaker 5: which you never would have expected. So obviously, so many
- 34:32Speaker 5: factors in the Trump victory. But I think this Maha
- 34:34Speaker 5: movement really made a big difference. And now that's given
- 34:37Speaker 5: Secretary Kennedy this ability to go hard at these issues.
- 34:40Speaker 5: I can say from being a special government employee here
- 34:42Speaker 5: at the White House, it is a green light from
- 34:44Speaker 5: the top.
- 34:44Speaker 4: It is really.
- 34:45Speaker 5: Susie Wiles just said this in an interview. President Trump
- 34:48Speaker 5: is committed to reforming institutions. And he doesn't care about
- 34:51Speaker 5: the blowback. And that's really been the hallmark of the
- 34:53Speaker 5: first 100 days. Amazing.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Well, and you guys were in the headlines recently because
- 34:57Speaker 1: you just banned synthetic food dyes. And some of the
- 35:01Speaker 1: pushback has been groceries are going to get wildly more expensive.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Some of the headlines have said $ 10, 000 more a year
- 35:08Speaker 1: for certain family sizes. Can you, first of all, address
- 35:11Speaker 1: why we're banning the synthetic food dyes? But then also,
- 35:14Speaker 1: is there going to be potential economic blowback for families?
- 35:18Speaker 5: Great question. So why are we banning the food dyes?
- 35:21Speaker 5: This is crude oil. Literally, the food dyes have no
- 35:24Speaker 5: nutritional value. It's crude oil and coal tar that you
- 35:28Speaker 5: combine some other molecules to make that bright neon color.
- 35:32Speaker 5: There's no reason to have these in our food. And
- 35:34Speaker 5: every other country in the developed world has phased these out.
- 35:36Speaker 5: So I think Secretary Kitty said this week, this isn't
- 35:39Speaker 5: the end-all be-all. This isn't the silver bullet to solve everything.
- 35:42Speaker 5: But when you talk about common sense actions to reverse
- 35:45Speaker 5: chronic disease, this is a big issue. Now, the food industry,
- 35:48Speaker 5: let's look at their arguments. They are literally saying, when
- 35:51Speaker 5: you unpack it, they're not disputing that these ingredients are
- 35:54Speaker 5: very harmful. They're not disputing that. They're trying to hold
- 35:57Speaker 5: this gun. They know the Trump administration wants grocery prices low,
- 36:00Speaker 5: and they're trying to hold this gun. And the lobbyists
- 36:02Speaker 5: come in, and they say it. They're calling the White House,
- 36:04Speaker 5: and they're like, we're going to raise food prices. They're threatening, essentially,
- 36:07Speaker 5: economic retaliation. But there's one interesting thing with the food dyes,
- 36:10Speaker 5: and it's why we picked the food dyes. We have
- 36:12Speaker 5: case studies. And in every other country in the developed world,
- 36:16Speaker 5: they changed the synthetic food dyes to watermelon juice, carrot juice, turmeric,
- 36:21Speaker 5: And prices didn't go up. So we have the full
- 36:24Speaker 5: expectation that on these food dyes, which is not asking
- 36:28Speaker 5: the food industry to do anything different than just serve
- 36:30Speaker 5: Americans what they make for other countries, that prices should
- 36:34Speaker 5: not go up. And I do think, and I want
- 36:36Speaker 5: the food lobbyists to know this, that excusing the clear
- 36:41Speaker 5: poisoning of kids, the clearly serving American children different ingredients
- 36:45Speaker 5: that they know are harmful that they don't put in
- 36:47Speaker 5: food in other countries, it's not appropriate to make an
- 36:50Speaker 5: economic argument and blame the administration for that. Congress is
- 36:54Speaker 5: overseeing a trillion dollars, a trillion dollars of agriculture subsidies
- 36:57Speaker 5: that the food industry lobbied for over the past 10 years.
- 37:00Speaker 5: School lunch subsidies, SNAP, agriculture subsidies, which predominantly go to
- 37:04Speaker 5: ultra-processed food. We have a totally broken market right now
- 37:08Speaker 5: because of food industry corruption that has helped ultra-processed food.
- 37:13Speaker 5: So if they have a problem about their prices, The administration,
- 37:16Speaker 5: I know, is very eager to talk to them about
- 37:18Speaker 5: supply chain, talk to them about reforming these agriculture systems
- 37:21Speaker 5: to not poison kids. But I also put a lot
- 37:23Speaker 5: on Congress, quite frankly. Congress shells out hundreds of billions
- 37:26Speaker 5: of dollars a year in food subsidies that right now
- 37:29Speaker 5: really subsidize the bad foods, not the good ones. Only 0.4%
- 37:31Speaker 5: of agriculture subsidies go to fruits and vegetables. 90% go
- 37:34Speaker 5: to corn, soy, wheat. That's another conversation. But this administration,
- 37:39Speaker 5: it wants to work constructively with the food industry to
- 37:41Speaker 5: accomplish the shared goal of healthier kids.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Can you understand the psychology here? Because if it's relatively
- 37:49Speaker 1: the same cost, it doesn't go up in other countries.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Why is big food so obsessive over these food dyes
- 37:56Speaker 1: and just the poison that they're putting in?
- 37:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, let's just go one by one on
- 38:01Speaker 5: some of the most objectionable ingredients. So when the food dyes...
- 38:05Speaker 5: We asked them that and they say it's consumer choice.
- 38:08Speaker 5: And I'm like, what does that mean? This is a
- 38:10Speaker 5: real conversations. And they say, well, we've done focus groups
- 38:13Speaker 5: with five-year-olds. Okay. And the five-year-olds lunge for the bright colors.
- 38:17Speaker 5: So consumers in America, i.e. kids, like the bright colors. Well,
- 38:22Speaker 5: of course they do.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:23Speaker 5: I think we've lost our mind where we're frankly trusting
- 38:26Speaker 5: kids a little too much. We're trusting two-year-olds to tell
- 38:29Speaker 5: us what their gender is. We're trusting five-year-olds to tell
- 38:31Speaker 5: us what color they like. Like that shouldn't actually be
- 38:34Speaker 5: something we focus group on kids. It's crude oil. So
- 38:38Speaker 5: that was their answer that, of course, you know, neon
- 38:41Speaker 5: bright colors kids like. So I think what's interesting, this
- 38:44Speaker 5: has come out in the reporting on this, is the
- 38:46Speaker 5: food industry actually wants this regulation. They know the dyes
- 38:50Speaker 5: are horrible. If one company did it, they'd be disadvantaged
- 38:54Speaker 5: because kids do lunch for those bright colors. So we're
- 38:58Speaker 5: going to see the food industry all jump at once.
- 39:00Speaker 5: And this is a big win that the administration, that
- 39:02Speaker 5: President Trump and Secretary Kennedy have driven home.
- 39:05Speaker 1: Part of why it feels so difficult to eat healthy
- 39:08Speaker 1: and to be a healthy person in today's day and
- 39:11Speaker 1: age is you're hearing all the time about the pesticides
- 39:13Speaker 1: that are on even the good food that's in the
- 39:16Speaker 1: refrigerated section. Is there a plan to deal with the
- 39:20Speaker 1: defilement of actually good food that should be nourishing for us.
- 39:24Speaker 1: And also even the soil we were hearing is impacting
- 39:28Speaker 1: just how nutritious each vegetable or fruit is.
- 39:30Speaker 5: 100%. You would have never expected this, but President Trump
- 39:35Speaker 5: and Secretary Kennedy, I think, have unlocked almost a spiritual
- 39:37Speaker 5: environmental food revolution. I mean, it's not partisan, but our
- 39:42Speaker 5: soil is depleted. A tomato grown in the United States
- 39:44Speaker 5: has 70% less nutrients than it did 50 years ago
- 39:47Speaker 5: because our soil is is so depleted because of all
- 39:49Speaker 5: these pesticides in our industrial agriculture system. So what I
- 39:54Speaker 5: would say is there's a two-step process. I was so
- 39:57Speaker 5: encouraged and energized by President Trump. He specifically called out
- 40:01Speaker 5: pesticides during the campaign. And he said, I don't know
- 40:03Speaker 5: what's going on, but let's get the truth. And what
- 40:06Speaker 5: I've noticed being in the White House is the lobbyists
- 40:09Speaker 5: come in, they're not even arguing for certain policies. They're saying, no, no, no, no,
- 40:12Speaker 5: we can't release data on pesticides because that's going to
- 40:15Speaker 5: scare the American consumer. That already scares me. They can't
- 40:19Speaker 5: handle that information. We don't want to confuse them. There's
- 40:22Speaker 5: such an infantilization of the American people from the lobby,
- 40:25Speaker 5: so we can't confuse them. President Trump and Secretary Kinney,
- 40:29Speaker 5: with this executive order, we're going to have a report
- 40:31Speaker 5: in the first 100 days of MAW. It's going to
- 40:33Speaker 5: come out May 22nd. We'd love to have you there
- 40:35Speaker 5: for this release. It's going to be huge. But it's
- 40:37Speaker 5: going to lay out the science on pesticides, the science
- 40:41Speaker 5: that Monsanto has settled billions of dollars of penalties for
- 40:45Speaker 5: causing cancer. The fact that atrazine is the second most
- 40:48Speaker 5: used pesticide in the United States, it's phased out of
- 40:51Speaker 5: most other countries. And Alex Jones is getting made fun
- 40:53Speaker 5: of for saying it turns the frogs gay, but it
- 40:55Speaker 5: is a mass hormone disruptor. That's just what the science says.
- 40:59Speaker 5: We're going to lay this out. Now, that's not policy.
- 41:01Speaker 5: And I will be honest, talking about the evolution of
- 41:05Speaker 5: our agriculture system is a very complicated discussion that I'm
- 41:09Speaker 5: not even equipped to talk about right now. I think
- 41:12Speaker 5: the inevitable change we need to make to our agriculture system,
- 41:15Speaker 5: where right now 70% of our food is ultra-processed, that's
- 41:18Speaker 5: 15% in Italy. We have a really distorted agriculture system.
- 41:22Speaker 5: That's a long-term, I think, 10-year journey. I think when
- 41:25Speaker 5: history books look back on this first year of the
- 41:27Speaker 5: Trump administration and we're at least going to start talking
- 41:30Speaker 5: about it. We just had a letter from Senator Grassley,
- 41:33Speaker 5: who's a good guy, but represents the farm states. And
- 41:36Speaker 5: he's threatened this Maha Commission. He's like, don't talk about pesticides.
- 41:41Speaker 5: Senator Grassley, we're going to release transparent information to the
- 41:46Speaker 5: American people so both consumers and policymakers can work off
- 41:50Speaker 5: the correct set of facts. It's not policy. It's transparency
- 41:54Speaker 5: to start. I think that's very important.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I want to I
- 41:58Speaker 1: want to pivot to the autism rates that RFK Jr.
- 42:02Speaker 1: has been talking about. This is obvious. Well, I want
- 42:04Speaker 1: to ask you first, because there's a narrative right now
- 42:07Speaker 1: that autism is purely inherited, that there's no environmental factors whatsoever.
- 42:12Speaker 1: And there's been a real pushback from RFK Jr. saying, no,
- 42:16Speaker 1: let's actually address potential environmental factors impacting these rates. What
- 42:22Speaker 1: does the science say on autism? Is it environmental? Does
- 42:26Speaker 1: that play a role?
- 42:27Speaker 5: They're going to be doing a lot of science, which
- 42:29Speaker 5: is what this is all about. But let me just
- 42:30Speaker 5: give you my high-level framework and some hypotheses. Working for
- 42:35Speaker 5: the pharmaceutical industry early in my career, there was really
- 42:38Speaker 5: a strategy. And there's a real benefit to the medical
- 42:42Speaker 5: industry to convince a patient that a medical condition is
- 42:47Speaker 5: part of their identity. It's not something they have agency over.
- 42:50Speaker 5: It's not something they can control. So if you look
- 42:52Speaker 5: at the guidelines from the American Diabetes Association, They say
- 42:55Speaker 5: type 2 diabetes isn't reversible. You now have Harvard Medical School.
- 43:00Speaker 5: You can't even believe this, but they put out a
- 43:02Speaker 5: study on obesity, and they said obesity is genetic. It's
- 43:05Speaker 5: tied to factors out of your control. The head of
- 43:08Speaker 5: obesity research at Harvard, who was on the Biden Nutrition
- 43:12Speaker 5: Advisory Committee, said that throw lifestyle and diet out the window.
- 43:16Speaker 5: This is a genetic condition. So the more you can
- 43:18Speaker 5: convince Americans that essentially their health issues are out of
- 43:22Speaker 5: their control, part of their identity... You also have healthcare
- 43:26Speaker 5: companies funding TikTok influencers to talk about how being autistic,
- 43:30Speaker 5: being obese, being diabetic is part of their identity. That's
- 43:34Speaker 5: very profitable because it takes agency away from patients and
- 43:38Speaker 5: it gets you on a lifetime disease you have to manage.
- 43:42Speaker 5: Autism clearly is related to the explosion of every other
- 43:46Speaker 5: chronic disease. You know, they're saying it's an overdiagnosis issue.
- 43:49Speaker 5: What I say, has there been an overdiagnosis issue of obesity?
- 43:52Speaker 5: We can see that. Something is happening where this year
- 43:56Speaker 5: in America, we are at all-time high rates of obesity, cancer, diabetes,
- 44:01Speaker 5: heart disease, almost everything. Autism is clearly related to that.
- 44:05Speaker 5: And I think because of potentially this concern around vaccines
- 44:09Speaker 5: and the fact that that issue has been tied to vaccines,
- 44:11Speaker 5: I'll just be blunt, I think there's been a real
- 44:13Speaker 5: war on studying the reasons. My personal hypothesis is that
- 44:17Speaker 5: it's actually not controversial to say that that autism is
- 44:21Speaker 5: tied to gut dysfunction and microbiome dysfunction. And that's many factors.
- 44:25Speaker 5: That's many factors. That's obviously potentially the pesticides, what's in
- 44:29Speaker 5: our food, what's in our air, what's in our water.
- 44:31Speaker 5: These are all things President Trump said during the campaign.
- 44:33Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know the truth. I don't know
- 44:35Speaker 5: what's going on, but I want to study all of it.
- 44:37Speaker 5: I want to get the truth. And I think we'll find...
- 44:40Speaker 5: that the cascading rates of autism, which are definitely happening,
- 44:43Speaker 5: which are really hurting a lot of families, are tied
- 44:45Speaker 5: to that. And when you start studying that, maybe you
- 44:47Speaker 5: can figure out a solution. You know, I've met anecdotally
- 44:51Speaker 5: with so many people. I met with somebody yesterday and
- 44:54Speaker 5: they were told that their child would be totally non-functional
- 44:58Speaker 5: for the rest of their life. And they went to
- 45:00Speaker 5: a functional medicine clinic and they realized what their nutrient
- 45:03Speaker 5: deficiency were. They realized they had a vitamin D deficiency.
- 45:07Speaker 5: They did a totally holistic program And that child just
- 45:10Speaker 5: graduated from Brown University and is a mechanical engineer. So
- 45:14Speaker 5: there are solutions for these things. I think it's very callous.
- 45:18Speaker 5: The medical system says, oh, no, no, nothing to see here.
- 45:21Speaker 5: You know, everyone's born with that. No problem. Because that
- 45:23Speaker 5: just prevents the truth, but it also prevents solutions. So
- 45:27Speaker 5: I think you're going to just see incredible, incredible action
- 45:30Speaker 5: on autism. I think it's so important that Secretary Kennedy
- 45:34Speaker 5: stood with two amazing scientists, Marty McCary at the FDA
- 45:36Speaker 5: and Jay Bhattacharya at the NIH, and said, we're going
- 45:38Speaker 5: to Find a solution to this question Americans want the
- 45:41Speaker 5: answer to.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Well, one of the narratives right now is that RFK Jr.,
- 45:44Speaker 1: he's a eugenicist. He doesn't want people with autism to
- 45:49Speaker 1: exist because, again, it's tied to this identity thing. And
- 45:53Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to that. And I
- 45:55Speaker 1: also want to read for you a quote. This is
- 45:57Speaker 1: from Dani Bowman. She's been very famous recently because kind
- 46:01Speaker 1: of the standout star of Love on the Spectrum. It's
- 46:03Speaker 1: a show about people with autism finding love, dating, and
- 46:07Speaker 1: getting married. And so she said, in reaction to RFK,
- 46:11Speaker 1: autistic people have the same hopes, dreams, and yes, the
- 46:15Speaker 1: same awkward dating moments as anyone else. To generalize and
- 46:18Speaker 1: say none of us can work, date, or contribute to
- 46:21Speaker 1: society is completely false. So she's suggesting that RFK Jr.
- 46:25Speaker 1: made the statement about all autistic people. Your reaction, Kelly?
- 46:28Speaker 5: My reaction is she should be ashamed of herself and
- 46:30Speaker 5: she should know better. I will tell you, I have
- 46:32Speaker 5: never seen somebody more loved and more caring for the
- 46:36Speaker 5: autistic community than Robert Kennedy Jr. My narrative getting to
- 46:40Speaker 5: know Secretary Kennedy is that he is ingrained. Maybe it's
- 46:44Speaker 5: the old school Kennedy DNA, not his current family, who's,
- 46:50Speaker 5: I think, shamefully throwing him under the bus. He would
- 46:51Speaker 5: never say that. But his uncle and his father... He
- 46:56Speaker 5: fights for the underdog. I mean, this guy, you know,
- 46:58Speaker 5: when I was growing up, I thought he was like,
- 47:00Speaker 5: who's this wacko? He's fighting for environmental causes. I think
- 47:03Speaker 5: a lot of those he turned out to be right on.
- 47:05Speaker 5: But he's fought for, you know, cleaning the waterways. He's
- 47:08Speaker 5: fought for children's health. And he's talked about this. He
- 47:11Speaker 5: had moms come to him with autistic children. And he
- 47:14Speaker 5: met those children. And he looked at the studies. And
- 47:17Speaker 5: because he gravitates to going to the areas where people
- 47:21Speaker 5: are saying, don't go there. He gravitates to areas where
- 47:25Speaker 5: it's taboo to ask questions. Usually those are the most
- 47:27Speaker 5: important areas. And he, over the past 20 years, has
- 47:30Speaker 5: been a warrior for the autistic community. When he made
- 47:33Speaker 5: that announcement, it was funny, right? Every mom of an
- 47:36Speaker 5: autistic child, you know, went to X and talked about
- 47:40Speaker 5: how this was the most meaningful speech they've ever heard
- 47:42Speaker 5: from the US government. But all these elite people in
- 47:45Speaker 5: the media started attacking him and people in entertainment apparently.
- 47:50Speaker 5: They're really saying Bobby doesn't care about the autistic community.
- 47:53Speaker 5: He is fighting for the autistic community and parents of
- 47:55Speaker 5: autistic children. And I think this pile on because he
- 47:59Speaker 5: said something that's true. It's obviously a spectrum. Obviously, many
- 48:02Speaker 5: people on that spectrum can contribute to society. But there
- 48:05Speaker 5: is an explosion of nonverbal folks who are really not
- 48:10Speaker 5: able to contribute to society and really suffering. And his
- 48:14Speaker 5: message of hope is that we should figure out what's
- 48:16Speaker 5: going on. And maybe, again, we can ameliorate and reverse that.
- 48:21Speaker 5: We should have love and compassion forever. I've had health issues.
- 48:25Speaker 5: My family has health issues. That's not part of our identity.
- 48:28Speaker 5: It's a challenge we face in our life that if
- 48:32Speaker 5: it's a long-term condition, so be it. But if we
- 48:35Speaker 5: can take agency and action to try to reverse it,
- 48:38Speaker 5: that's great too. That's part of living. And it's not
- 48:43Speaker 5: a slight on the Autistic communities say, you know, this
- 48:45Speaker 5: obviously isn't optimal in many cases and let's let's let's
- 48:49Speaker 5: study what's going on I think this is so important
- 48:51Speaker 5: and what Secretary Kennedy and the Trump administration is gonna
- 48:54Speaker 5: do on many issues Let's just.
- 48:55Speaker 1: Get to the truth Well, I think there seems to
- 48:57Speaker 1: be a confusion about what eugenics even means I mean
- 49:00Speaker 1: eugenics is like you're getting rid of people who don't
- 49:03Speaker 1: contribute to society in your view or who you deem
- 49:05Speaker 1: as feeble-minded or or unable to function physically and Secretary
- 49:10Speaker 1: Kennedy is not saying we should get rid of them,
- 49:12Speaker 1: we should exterminate them, he's saying let's reverse this for them.
- 49:15Speaker 1: And I would say if you are somebody wants to
- 49:17Speaker 1: think about real eugenics in modern times, people with Down
- 49:21Speaker 1: syndrome in places like Denmark, 98% of them don't actually
- 49:24Speaker 1: make it past birth because they're aborted before the time.
- 49:28Speaker 1: And in the United States, I think it's somewhere between
- 49:30Speaker 1: because we don't have the exact numbers, 60 to 90%.
- 49:34Speaker 1: So there is eugenics in America. I would love to
- 49:36Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't think they're interested in talking
- 49:38Speaker 1: about it.
- 49:39Speaker 5: You know, I was talking to your mom last night,
- 49:41Speaker 5: and she was so excited about these pro-baby policies. And
- 49:44Speaker 5: I was telling her, we're creating a fertility policy.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I think I talked to you a little about this. Yeah,
- 49:48Speaker 1: I know.
- 49:48Speaker 5: I love that.
- 49:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 49:49Speaker 5: And the actual goal of the policy is to make
- 49:52Speaker 5: Rachel Campbell-Stuffy happy. It's going to be a holistic policy.
- 49:56Speaker 5: So I was thinking about it, and I really do
- 49:59Speaker 5: feel so energized in this building. This is the most
- 50:03Speaker 5: pro-life administration in history. And a big part of that
- 50:10Speaker 5: is thinking about kids and the live people. I mean,
- 50:15Speaker 5: it's like this callousness from the medical system of not
- 50:20Speaker 5: asking questions, of accepting disease as a stagnant thing. It's
- 50:25Speaker 5: really kind of evil. It's very profitable. I don't think
- 50:27Speaker 5: people are trying to do it. I've talked to a
- 50:29Speaker 5: lot of people in the healthcare industry. They're not trying.
- 50:32Speaker 5: They don't want kids to be sick. But the invisible
- 50:34Speaker 5: hand has profited from kids being in fear. You know,
- 50:38Speaker 5: there's a huge profit in inter-transition surgeries. There's huge profit
- 50:42Speaker 5: in kids being on medications. 35% of teens are on
- 50:45Speaker 5: a medication. So I think there's a stake in the
- 50:47Speaker 5: ground here where we need a different course. I mean,
- 50:51Speaker 5: the best way to improve life and lower healthcare costs,
- 50:55Speaker 5: lower drug costs, is for kids to be healthy, is
- 50:58Speaker 5: for kids not to be on drugs. And I think
- 50:59Speaker 5: there's been a different framework that I really call pro-life
- 51:03Speaker 5: that's emerged from this administration.
- 51:05Speaker 1: Yeah. What I love is you guys are empowering parents.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Left and right, that's what the policy seems to be,
- 51:10Speaker 1: and prioritizing children. I want to ask you about what
- 51:14Speaker 1: it's like to be a parent, and you take your kid,
- 51:17Speaker 1: your newborn baby, into the hospital, and there's a lot
- 51:20Speaker 1: of pressure to get way more shots. I mean, if
- 51:23Speaker 1: you look at my mom, I mean, she's had kids
- 51:25Speaker 1: over the last 20 years. The amount of shots that
- 51:28Speaker 1: my littlest sister is being required to take or highly
- 51:31Speaker 1: pressured to take didn't even exist for me. 25 years ago.
- 51:36Speaker 1: And now there's pressure. You can't even go into public
- 51:38Speaker 1: school with some of these vaccines. And so what is
- 51:41Speaker 1: the administration doing to empower parents and let them have
- 51:44Speaker 1: more autonomy over what we're going to choose to give
- 51:47Speaker 1: to our children?
- 51:47Speaker 5: Well, you're right. What happens today, without getting into the
- 51:52Speaker 5: specific science or specific decisions, it is astounding. I mean,
- 51:56Speaker 5: watching my child be born was the most miraculous thing
- 52:00Speaker 5: I've ever witnessed in my life. And the moment that
- 52:03Speaker 5: baby comes into the world, the medical system smears antibiotics
- 52:07Speaker 5: over their eyes, and they push a shot for a
- 52:12Speaker 5: sexually transmitted disease. At six months old, they're still pushing
- 52:17Speaker 5: COVID shots. So I think there is a message coming
- 52:22Speaker 5: from this administration, and it's a couple parts. One is
- 52:27Speaker 5: informed consent and patient choice. We have mass mandates from vaccines,
- 52:34Speaker 5: but also to pharmaceuticals. I mean, you know, Secretary Kennedy's
- 52:37Speaker 5: talked about Medicaid. It's a fee-for-service system where you have
- 52:41Speaker 5: essentially logic created by the American Medical Association, where if
- 52:45Speaker 5: your child is a little bit depressed, they get an antidepressant.
- 52:49Speaker 5: Antidepressant rates have doubled in the past seven years among
- 52:52Speaker 5: high schoolers. If they have high cholesterol, the doctor doesn't
- 52:55Speaker 5: talk to them about their diet or whether they're outside
- 52:57Speaker 5: or whether they're moving. They go straight to a statin.
- 53:00Speaker 5: Statin rates have exploded among teens. They have high blood sugar.
- 53:04Speaker 5: Now 38% of teens are pre-diabetic. They go to the metformin.
- 53:08Speaker 5: So one of the big parts of the executive order
- 53:10Speaker 5: President Trump signed is we want to move to more
- 53:12Speaker 5: flexibility in If patients are able to make their own decisions,
- 53:17Speaker 5: not be jammed into these decisions made by the American
- 53:20Speaker 5: Medical Association of Pharmaceutical Lobbying Group, and then pair that
- 53:23Speaker 5: with informed consent, with real studies, with robust scientific inquiry,
- 53:30Speaker 5: which we haven't had in a long time, then patients
- 53:34Speaker 5: can read and make up decision with their doctor and
- 53:38Speaker 5: then push their healthcare dollars in their choice where they go.
- 53:41Speaker 5: Secretary Kennedy's talked about this. This is not an anti-drug agenda.
- 53:45Speaker 5: I actually think there's going to be deregulation and a
- 53:47Speaker 5: robust innovation in therapeutics over the next four years with
- 53:51Speaker 5: the dawn of AI. Secretary Kennedy's not against drugs or
- 53:56Speaker 5: even vaccines, but you have to have the great information,
- 54:01Speaker 5: gold star science. I think there's a big mistake the
- 54:04Speaker 5: medical system is making. They're essentially arguing we're at the
- 54:06Speaker 5: pinnacle of understanding of science right now, that you can't
- 54:10Speaker 5: question the science on anything. If we're not dramatically different
- 54:15Speaker 5: in 10 years with much more personalized therapeutics and vaccines,
- 54:20Speaker 5: there's a real opportunity here to evolve science. And that's
- 54:25Speaker 5: what Secretary Kennedy is talking about. And I think, again,
- 54:27Speaker 5: the medical community is making a mistake by saying essentially
- 54:30Speaker 5: that we're at the apex right now. Science is ever,
- 54:33Speaker 5: ever evolving. So that's what's going to happen in the
- 54:36Speaker 5: next four years. informed consent, a complete antagonism to anyone
- 54:42Speaker 5: who says that patients shouldn't be able to see more data,
- 54:45Speaker 5: shouldn't be able to make up their own mind. There's
- 54:46Speaker 5: a lot of that thinking in the medical system. And
- 54:49Speaker 5: then patient choice. Those are the two hallmarks of a
- 54:51Speaker 5: MAHA policy.
- 54:53Speaker 1: You guys are tackling the drug crisis. You're tackling chronic disease.
- 54:57Speaker 1: You're tackling mental illness.
- 54:59Speaker 5: Yes.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Do you think that there is a spiritual thread running
- 55:02Speaker 1: through all of these different epidemics?
- 55:04Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think there's a spiritual thread running through most
- 55:08Speaker 5: of the Trump administration's policies, which is protecting kids. I
- 55:12Speaker 5: think there's something dark happening with threats against American children.
- 55:18Speaker 5: I was recently reading human trafficking and children trafficking is
- 55:22Speaker 5: a larger industry than all of the entertainment industries. industry,
- 55:27Speaker 5: more profitable. There's a lot of action the administration's taking
- 55:30Speaker 5: on that. The education system, we spend more on education
- 55:34Speaker 5: than any other country, and it's not serving kids well.
- 55:38Speaker 5: So they're dramatically reforming the education system. The military industrial complex,
- 55:41Speaker 5: and Frankly, you know, a candidate, a Republican finally saying,
- 55:45Speaker 5: you know, the Iraq war was a mistake. I mean,
- 55:47Speaker 5: this was what a disastrous mistake.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Yes.
- 55:50Speaker 5: You know, sending those kids off, you know, a generation
- 55:54Speaker 5: of issues, reforming the military and intelligence services, reforming the
- 56:00Speaker 5: global trading order and reforming the mantle President Trump took up,
- 56:06Speaker 5: which is these incentives of our health care system that
- 56:10Speaker 5: no conspiracy, just factually. profit from children being sick. You know,
- 56:15Speaker 5: looking at our government efficiency, 27% of the federal budget
- 56:19Speaker 5: is healthcare spending. 12% is defense and intelligence. It's the
- 56:22Speaker 5: largest part of the US budget. It's the fastest growing part.
- 56:26Speaker 5: And 90% of that spending is on chronic disease tied
- 56:30Speaker 5: to preventable lifestyle conditions. And the way the system works
- 56:33Speaker 5: right now is if a kid gets sick, gets sick
- 56:36Speaker 5: young with chronic disease, they get on a treadmill. And
- 56:41Speaker 5: the pharmaceutical industry makes more money when there's more prescriptions
- 56:44Speaker 5: for a longer period of time. Hospitals make money when
- 56:46Speaker 5: beds are full, not empty. And insurance companies, because of
- 56:49Speaker 5: the disastrous regulations of Obamacare, actually make more money when
- 56:54Speaker 5: prices go up, when more people get sick. Obamacare had
- 56:57Speaker 5: this insane regulation. where insurance companies can only make a
- 57:02Speaker 5: 15% profit margin, essentially, medical loss ratio, but they're allowed
- 57:05Speaker 5: to raise premiums to get that 15%. So since Obamacare,
- 57:10Speaker 5: healthcare premiums have doubled. It's been the highest driver of
- 57:13Speaker 5: US inflation because literally by law, they're incentivized to just
- 57:16Speaker 5: jack up prices, which means more people get sick. So
- 57:19Speaker 5: there's common sense actions that are happening, and you've seen
- 57:24Speaker 5: those in the first 100 days from taking pharmaceutical reps
- 57:26Speaker 5: off advisory committees, from looking at our institutions and our
- 57:31Speaker 5: food incentives. But I think you're seeing a long-term discussion
- 57:36Speaker 5: about how to steer the medical system towards 10 years
- 57:40Speaker 5: from now. There's a robust pharmaceutical industry. There's a robust
- 57:43Speaker 5: insurance industry. There's a robust hospital industry. But they're all
- 57:46Speaker 5: a bit more incentivized to promote longevity for the American people.
- 57:49Speaker 5: They get paid when diseases are reversed and prevented, not
- 57:52Speaker 5: just managed.
- 57:53Speaker 1: Yes. I want to be respectful of your time, Callie.
- 57:56Speaker 1: And I know you're a busy guy. You got a
- 57:57Speaker 1: lot going on. I have one more question for you.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Is there something in the wellness community that people are
- 58:03Speaker 1: getting wrong? People want to be healthy, and there's a
- 58:06Speaker 1: lot of different ideas of how we can do that.
- 58:09Speaker 1: You have animal-based, you've got carnivore, you've got the vegetarians
- 58:11Speaker 1: and the vegans. Is there something that you're seeing people
- 58:14Speaker 1: are just getting dramatically wrong?
- 58:17Speaker 5: I think one thing I really gravitate away from is
- 58:19Speaker 5: dietary tribes. We're working really hard on the dietary guidelines,
- 58:23Speaker 5: and this is another great example of, I think, a
- 58:25Speaker 5: MAHA framework. transparency first. Right now, the dietary guidelines recommend
- 58:30Speaker 5: added sugar as a healthy part of a two-year-old's diet.
- 58:33Speaker 5: They say meat is bad, essentially. They don't take a
- 58:37Speaker 5: stand on whether ultra-processed food is bad, which is insane.
- 58:41Speaker 5: Secretary Kennedy said we're going to make those much simpler,
- 58:43Speaker 5: much clearer. As we've been engaging with stakeholders, some people
- 58:47Speaker 5: I really respect in the wellness community and in the
- 58:49Speaker 5: nutrition science community, there are a lot of dietary tribes, vegan, carnivore,
- 58:55Speaker 5: everything in between. I think that misses the point. We
- 58:59Speaker 5: really just need to, I think, predominantly get to the
- 59:01Speaker 5: basics and get to whole food, get to some general
- 59:05Speaker 5: principles on macros, like raising our protein levels. But I
- 59:10Speaker 5: think when you get into dietary wars, I think there's
- 59:12Speaker 5: a lot of incentives on social media to pick a side.
- 59:16Speaker 1: Some people say that vegetables are bad now.
- 59:17Speaker 5: Do you think vegetables are bad? I think we would
- 59:20Speaker 5: be a transformed country if we lowered children's consumption of
- 59:25Speaker 5: ultra-processed food, which is now 70% of their diet, to.
- 59:29Speaker 5: Italian, Spanish, Japanese levels were just sub 20%. If we
- 59:34Speaker 5: literally just focused on getting kids more whole food from
- 59:37Speaker 5: American farmers, honestly, whatever that is, because if you go
- 59:42Speaker 5: on a whole food trajectory, you know, you're going to
- 59:45Speaker 5: experiment and figure out what's right for you. And a
- 59:48Speaker 5: lot of different combinations can work. So literally, I say this,
- 59:52Speaker 5: if every nutrition scientist and all this hundreds of millions
- 59:56Speaker 5: of dollars of nutrition money research spending at the NIH,
- 59:59Speaker 5: which has gone to just absolute nonsense. If it was
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: cut tomorrow and replaced with a one sentence saying eat
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: whole food, we'd be a totally transformed country, have billions,
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: trillions of dollars of lower healthcare costs.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. Callie, thank you so much for
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: being here.
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: I really appreciate it.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: And with that, I appreciate you all tuning into this show.
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