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S5 Bonus Zizian Cult Unveiled_ Curtis Lind - Ep 5 · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: M hmm.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, Hi, I like how right before we come live,
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  Speaker 3: we're all backstage like taking drinks right before we.
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  Speaker 2: Go, and then we're all just like because we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: need it tonight.
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  Speaker 3: We are gonna need it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We are.
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  Speaker 2: It gets dark, everybody, It gets dark.
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  Speaker 3: It does. Welcome everyone, Welcome to our fantastic Sunday night show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Tara, I thank you guys. Remember producer Tera here
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  Speaker 3: that's been doing this is the end show with you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: and we have that handsome fella over there. We're going
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  Speaker 3: all casual and cool today.
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  Speaker 2: Awful nice of you to say. I'm just I'm coming.
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  Speaker 2: I'm straight off of playing at the park with the
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  Speaker 2: kids and trying to teach them how to skateboard and
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  Speaker 2: then realizing that I shouldn't be on a skateboard and.
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  Speaker 3: Our lovely Terry is not with us this evening, so
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  Speaker 3: we brought back our very special guest Cappin. She nailed
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  Speaker 3: it last time, she's gonna nail it again tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm not at all nervous Terry.
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  Speaker 3: Right, She's going to do a great job against love Fine, Right,
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  Speaker 3: It's fine, Everything's gonna be fine. Well, you guys. Tonight
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  Speaker 3: we dive into episode five of our special investigations Asi
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  Speaker 3: and Sunfield. This multi part deep dive exposes the chilling
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  Speaker 3: truth behind the Sissian Cult, a radical mix of trans
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  Speaker 3: vegan rationalists and our guests to have left a trail
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  Speaker 3: of bodies stretching coast to coast. I said that all
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  Speaker 3: in one take, you guys, all four of those crazy words.
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  Speaker 3: Normally I'm like, wait, finally, by episode five, I've nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: Combination that I never thought I'd hear in my wildest dreams,
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  Speaker 2: altogether as one.
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  Speaker 3: Here we are. So if this is, without a doubt,
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  Speaker 3: the most bizarre and complex true crime case I've ever encountered,
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  Speaker 3: and same with everyone else here, and new details are
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  Speaker 3: emerging almost daily, and the story just keeps getting wilder
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  Speaker 3: and wilder.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll be here for the.
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  Speaker 3: Next couple Sundays because our series is getting ready to
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  Speaker 3: start to wind down. But every Sunday at nine pm Eastern,
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  Speaker 3: we'll be here unraveling the tangled web of the Bzizians.
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  Speaker 3: So make sure you are subscribed, hit that like button
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  Speaker 3: and turn on notifications because you won't want to miss
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  Speaker 3: a second of this investigation. But before we get into that,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about what we're drinking tonight. Kevin, our guest,
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  Speaker 3: why don't you go first and share with us your
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  Speaker 3: delightful beverages.
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  Speaker 1: I am once again drinking a fruit lagger from Louisiana,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite brewery. This time it is Abida's Purple Haze,
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  Speaker 1: which is a lagger brewed with raspberries. It's one of
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  Speaker 1: their year round offerings. The last one I did was Strawberry,
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  Speaker 1: which is just for the spring and summer, and the can,
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  Speaker 1: much like the Zizians, is a little trippy. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure it smells a lot better than our wayward cult.
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  Speaker 3: Probably there's some steak in those slack mobitles. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I think Purple Haze was probably one of my first
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  Speaker 2: beers when I turned twenty one. It's been around much.
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  Speaker 1: Better than I did Wow Natty Light for a while Dosaki,
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  Speaker 1: but I called it too ex.
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  Speaker 2: Two exes, two xes, just like in college. Well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: drinking whatever the hell I could find.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's what the Zizzians were doing. I'm
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  Speaker 2: now I'm drinking all of our wineries, Camelot mead why
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  Speaker 2: because the Zizzians are needy, and I am needy for meaty, so.
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  Speaker 3: Stupid what needy for needy? I love that. That's good. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: sounds like no off guard.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I didn't. I didn't realize. We were
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  Speaker 2: just talking about what we're drinking. So I'm gonna skip
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  Speaker 2: the Oh.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, we're doing it all. That's that is, That's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, everybody, welcome back to a story that would be
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  Speaker 2: what you'd get if you if a Ted Talk, Reddit
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  Speaker 2: thread and community theater production of Mad Max had a baby,
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  Speaker 2: and then that baby immediately started living in a box truck,
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  Speaker 2: casting spells and imitating Palpatine. Ah, a baby's a mini
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  Speaker 2: Palpatine anyways, truly, So tonight we're talking fake death's, real stabbings,
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  Speaker 2: and the kind of stuff that makes the fire Festival
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  Speaker 2: look like a military operation. This isn't just true crime.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the MCU if everyone had a
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  Speaker 2: philosophy degree, persecution complex, and then access to Google docs.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll call up friends.
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  Speaker 3: Buckle up. So there's no bag of wine for me tonight,
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  Speaker 3: you guys, I'm drinking Yellowstone Road mescato. I saw a
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  Speaker 3: couple leftover leftover bottles. From our There's Day show.
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  Speaker 4: So so I am very very excited to talk about
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  Speaker 4: this next chapter and the Sizzyan's gone wild because tonight
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  Speaker 4: things are going to.
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  Speaker 3: Take several dark turns. Now, I will do my best
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  Speaker 3: to limit my rants tonight and behave and maybe try
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  Speaker 3: not to say so many cursey words. We'll see. But
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  Speaker 3: if you all I thought I got fired up about
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  Speaker 3: their protest annex, oh man, what happens tonight really really
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  Speaker 3: gets me worked up. So I can guarantee you though,
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  Speaker 3: that there will be lots lots of snart. So with that,
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  Speaker 3: let's get this party started, shall we.
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  Speaker 2: We shall in the same way that we have for
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  Speaker 2: the four episodes before this, this series involves many non
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  Speaker 2: binary and chant transgender people. We will not avoid these topics,
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  Speaker 2: as they are important to the philosophy of the cult.
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  Speaker 2: All subjects are going to be introduced with their chosen
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  Speaker 2: name and legal name. For the sake of legal research.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do our best to use appropriate pronouns,
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  Speaker 2: but please know that if any mistakes are made, it
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  Speaker 2: speaks to the vast number of players in this case
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  Speaker 2: and the complicated nature of their beliefs, and is in
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  Speaker 2: no way intended to disrespect their gender identity. We are
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  Speaker 2: We are very proud of the respectful and inclusive check
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  Speaker 2: community that we've created here. Our regulars know the drill,
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  Speaker 2: but to anybody popping in, please know we don't tolerate
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  Speaker 2: hate speech. Statistically speaking, trans people are four times more
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  Speaker 2: likely than cisgendered people to be the victims of crime.
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  Speaker 2: We are not here to fan that fire. We are
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  Speaker 2: here to discuss how this group of bright young people
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  Speaker 2: ended up involved in multiple deaths. And with that, I
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  Speaker 2: turn it over to Captain.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to do a small disclaimer before I start.
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  Speaker 1: I have had a cold for a little bit, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that doesn't affect my reading tonight. But
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  Speaker 1: apologies of a dazz, I'll mute myself. I have to cough.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get into it. Just like with the previous episodes,
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  Speaker 1: we've made some very helpful graphics to go along with
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  Speaker 1: the story. Just look, you're.
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  Speaker 3: She did that lady.
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  Speaker 1: If you're listening to this as a podcast, I can't
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  Speaker 1: suggest enough that you watch it on the True Crime
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  Speaker 1: and Wine YouTube channel to follow along. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: just catching this for the first time and you're a
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  Speaker 1: little confused, which is understandable. You can find these episodes
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  Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel under Lives or on the curated
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  Speaker 1: playlist about the Zizians. As we have said many times,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to miss any of the details on this.
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  Speaker 3: Case, especially what we're getting into tonight. You guys, we've
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  Speaker 3: been waiting for been waiting for this. Well here we are,
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  Speaker 3: so but before we get into it, let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: what we covered last week. A quick recap, nothing long.
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  Speaker 3: So last week we dived into the organizations Murray and
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  Speaker 3: Seafar where most of our Zizians attended their workshops. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure many of you in the audience have spent the
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  Speaker 3: last week practicing your Murphy Jiu jitsu I know I have,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe some other mind control technique. Put your favorite
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  Speaker 3: one in the chat what's your favorite mind control technique?
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  Speaker 3: But we also explained that there have been many criticisms
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  Speaker 3: of See far ours and basically those groups their culty
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  Speaker 3: as fuck. Okay, let's just be honest. They got some
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  Speaker 3: red bags going on there, and it is a zero
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  Speaker 3: surprise to anyone, including the head of SI Far herself,
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  Speaker 3: Anna Solomon, that a call emerged out of all this.
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  Speaker 2: To me, how how is she gonna be surprised. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she's not not at all like you've seen the other cults.
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  Speaker 2: You knew what you were doing. I mean, are we
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  Speaker 2: supposed to you know what we are, We're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: believe she thinks everybody's just dumb enough to believe that
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  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I would genuinely be surprised if people paid me thousands
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  Speaker 1: of dollars to tell them how to think.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Four thousand dollars everyone, and I can give
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  Speaker 3: you better advice than whatever they get. Pe So. On
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  Speaker 3: top of Marian and Cephar, we also discussed the Meeker Four,
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  Speaker 3: who were Ziz Gwynn, Amma Boranian and Insomny aka Alexander Latham,
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  Speaker 3: and after being asked not to attend the c FAR
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  Speaker 3: alumni reunion, they decided to launch a protest against them,
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  Speaker 3: accusing the organizations of all sorts of things that they
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  Speaker 3: provided zero proof of. But this group did not think
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  Speaker 3: the optics or the law through and found themselves in
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  Speaker 3: jail with several charges. Honestly, you guys, if you haven't
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  Speaker 3: heard you have not heard this protest story. It's in
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  Speaker 3: the last episode. Go listen to it. Because the whole
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  Speaker 3: thing is wild and it's the worst planned protest I've
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  Speaker 3: ever heard of in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it had the best terror rents ever.
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  Speaker 3: Well, lots of curcy words were half because it is infuriating.
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  Speaker 3: But so for tonight's episode, though, we'll be talking about
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  Speaker 3: the core four, Gwyn Zizzsomny and Emma, as well as
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  Speaker 3: Maximilian Benslee Snyder, who briefly, how can you not say
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  Speaker 3: it like that? Right when we learn about this guy,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he says it like that too, see,
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  Speaker 3: But so we talked briefly about him in episode one,
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  Speaker 3: but we're gonna do a little bit deeper dive into
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  Speaker 3: him here. We also are gonna introduce Surrey Dow who
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  Speaker 3: is new, but our biggest focus tonight will be discussing
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  Speaker 3: the tragic tale of Curtis Lynde again the hat there,
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  Speaker 3: So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, So just a warning everybody, this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna get Lama all worked up, and I need you
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  Speaker 2: to This is what to do if you're if you
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  Speaker 2: encounter an enraged Lama, you just need to like dodge,
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  Speaker 2: ship dive, duck and dodge and either way, I really
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  Speaker 2: I hope you brought your ponchos because Lama's spit and
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  Speaker 2: it's about to be a Gallagher sledgematic episode. So get
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  Speaker 2: ready to do.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that Islama has fitten tonight is facts,
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  Speaker 3: all the facts. So let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into I'll set you up for that one.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, all right. So here we are in the
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  Speaker 2: late twenty nineteen early twenty twenty. The Seafar protests just happened.
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  Speaker 2: Several of them are now in legal trouble. The Rationalist
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  Speaker 2: Fleet has failed, and the group either sold or abandoned
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  Speaker 2: their boats in the San Francisco Bay. At the end
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  Speaker 2: of episode three, right, we briefly met Curtis Lynde, who
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  Speaker 2: also had the largest boat in the bay and had
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  Speaker 2: befriended the group. He had decided to retire and sold
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  Speaker 2: his boat, and he allowed the group to move onto
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  Speaker 2: his property. And valiejo is it. Thank you. I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to make it more difficult than it was, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, in a place in California. Lynd Is quoted
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  Speaker 2: as saying, quote, they were unhappy living on the top.
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  Speaker 2: They they decided to want to move my yard and
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  Speaker 2: buy moving vans, small moving vans and change them into
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  Speaker 2: places where they could live in the moving van and
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  Speaker 2: nobody would know that they're in there. Lynde said he
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  Speaker 2: reached an informal rental agreement with Gwen requiring about two
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month in exchange for use of two
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  Speaker 2: r vs at the California site at his place, and
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  Speaker 2: uh the option to park. I don't know why it's
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  Speaker 2: so hard for me to say Vallejo. It's Vallejo site,
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  Speaker 2: him the option to park a half dozen trucks on
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  Speaker 2: the property. Gwen told lynd that they were only planning
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  Speaker 2: to stay three or four months. He you know what,
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  Speaker 2: that lab wasn't even for that line, but it still worked.
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  Speaker 2: He also described his edits as around six to eight
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  Speaker 2: people who would come and go. One worked for Google.
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  Speaker 2: I assume it's Emma he's referring to, since we know
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  Speaker 2: she worked there and would leave for periods of time
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  Speaker 2: to live in her truck in the company's parking lot,
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  Speaker 2: which I bet Google loved that.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing better for your mental health than living at work.
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  Speaker 3: Totally, totally, I mean two thousand a month split between
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  Speaker 3: all these people is a hell of a deal, especially
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  Speaker 3: in San Francisco and they get to use two r
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  Speaker 3: v's out of this deal. I mean I would never
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  Speaker 3: I would never pay anything like that to live in
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  Speaker 3: an RV or a box truck. But this group, who
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  Speaker 3: remember everyone is actively choosing to live this way. It
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  Speaker 3: does sound like a killer, killer deal for them. Quite literally.
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  Speaker 3: I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like the chat. I'd like to know, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to throw in like a whole like yes
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  Speaker 2: or no question for everybody, but do you My question
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  Speaker 2: really is do we think they paid the two thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars a month? And I'll leave it in that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let us now in the chat. What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think? Isn't there a way we can
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  Speaker 3: do polls?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I could do one, give me a second, I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh should we get round polls tonight? Is that too
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  Speaker 3: much of a pain that could be?
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  Speaker 2: No, I can do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, We're gonna do a poll for you guys. You
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  Speaker 3: decide did they pay the two thousand rent a month? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Or well? While JT is setting that up because I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea how Before we go further into the
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  Speaker 1: Curtis Lynn story, do you remember in the first episode
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  Speaker 1: we talked about other people trying to warn the public
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  Speaker 1: about the group. Well, we're going to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: first warning, which happened January fourth, twenty twenty a man
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  Speaker 1: by the name of J. D. Pressman who belonged to
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  Speaker 1: the rationalist community and apparently was the ex boyfriend of Fluttershy.
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  Speaker 1: He created the website zizians dot info and coined the
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  Speaker 1: term Zizians.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Zizz did hate this, right, like, I guess. I
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  Speaker 2: mean they already ordered members jackets, so they couldn't change
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  Speaker 2: it after that. But like she like, she didn't like this, right,
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  Speaker 2: What do.
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  Speaker 3: You guys think? Do you think you think this is
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  Speaker 3: happy about this?
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  Speaker 1: Make another poll?
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  Speaker 3: Do you just have a list of polls tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I guess just put dang it condos too, damn high.
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  Speaker 1: So Pressman wrote under the name Apollo Mojave, which I
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  Speaker 1: thought was a pretty highbrow porn name, but I guess
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  Speaker 1: unsurprisingly it's a sci fi character. Unlike Zizz, he gets
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  Speaker 1: to the point quickly, stating the purpose of this document
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  Speaker 1: is to warn you not to join them. Don't do tarticulate,
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  Speaker 1: but don't do it. He also described Zizz as a
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  Speaker 1: master manipulator who was extremely skilled at selling people on
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  Speaker 1: nonsense ideas about decision theory and ethics that defy not
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  Speaker 1: just the rules of rationality but basic common sense. And
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't agree more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, based on what we learned over the last three episodes,
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  Speaker 3: he pretty much nailed it, like just bad as everything
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  Speaker 3: we've learned.
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  Speaker 2: I hope so because he's a high brow porn name person,
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  Speaker 2: so he better have nailed it pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to come to capin with uh,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: high brow porn name ideas.
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  Speaker 2: What were answering.
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  Speaker 1: Chat?
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  Speaker 3: We're answering polls in a chat. Why don't you tell
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  Speaker 3: us your high brow porn name?
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  Speaker 1: Please do please?
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  Speaker 3: These things get dark and we do need to laugh tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So there is another section of the brief physisiums dot
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  Speaker 1: info blog that helps potentially explain the choices that made
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  Speaker 1: many of the Zizian's uh, the choices that they made
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  Speaker 1: uh quote unquote. Zizians do not think it is ever
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  Speaker 1: valid to surrender. The reasoning goes that if someone is
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  Speaker 1: trying to exact surrender from you, giving in is choosing
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  Speaker 1: the strategy that gets coerced into surrender. If you fight bitterly,
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  Speaker 1: you prevent the coercion in the first place by making
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  Speaker 1: it too costly to fight you.
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  Speaker 2: Because that worked real well for the Meeker forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, the quote Zizians do not think it
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  Speaker 3: is ever valid to surrender. Like to me, it explains
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  Speaker 3: a lot of their behavior with the ce Far protest
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  Speaker 3: and their un cooperation with authorities. I think it explains
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  Speaker 3: a lot a lot about what we're going to talk
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  Speaker 3: about tonight. And I think it could potentially explain young
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  Speaker 3: Blood and Bacol from episode one in them pulling out
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  Speaker 3: guns and the Vermont Border Patrol shooting, you know, something
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  Speaker 3: that we've been like, why would they even do this?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that is the reason, but it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of looking like that could be.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's really interesting is that that entire concept
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  Speaker 2: of never admitting defeat, never surrendering, that is a very
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: roy Cone, very roy Cone from New York. And if
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we don't know Roy Cone, we probably should do an
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  Speaker 2: episode on him. In fact, I might put that on
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  Speaker 2: the list.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, put that on the list for me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say, Annie, come on, what go over?
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  Speaker 3: Oh Annie here, I'm too pure for a porn name.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody make one for Annie Bananni.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, please, Annie's high brow porn name or low
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  Speaker 1: brow whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the name Annie. But Annie is enough of one,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So I I agree with what you have to say.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a good explanation for some of
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the things they did later on. It's there's other thoughts
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: in my mind about it, but we'll get there eventually.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: The blog continues, Uh, Pressman rights, This can often be
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a valid way to think about things, but this and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: our followers apply it in every scenario without considering the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: power difference between fighters. If you can't make it costly
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: enough to fight you, refusing to surrender is a sure
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: way to see the inside of a jail cell or
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the pearly gates. We see this in action during the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Camp Meeker incident. While we can only speculate on the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: motives of the protesters for screaming at police, it seems
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: likely that's played an important role.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one take note of the comment about considering they
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: don't consider the power difference very important in tonight's story.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: But again, I mean, Pressman is knocking out of the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: park with this. You know it's either going to end up.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: People are going to end up in jail or dead
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and he wrote this in twenty twenty, you guys, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: he's not wrong. He's not wrong. So now when it
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: comes to Pressman, though, what I really want to talk
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: about is a Tumblr post that was apparently made by
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: one of his ex girlfriends, not Shutterfly, but I know
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: who you are now. She wrote this trying to discredit
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Pressman and make looked like he was obsessive and crazy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: In regards to Ziz, however, I think there are some
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: very interesting things that they allegedly observed about Pressman that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: actually could be true based on what facts are known
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: about this group, particularly Ziz and other people's experiences such
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: as Jamie Michelle Zashko, that we'll get into next episode.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Like it basically mirrors about what we're getting ready to
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: talk about. Crazy, Yeah, crazy.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Two more names and lives who were impacted by this.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we couldn't even include to everyone on the cast sheet.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But so so the ex writes quote anyone who was
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: associated with him, she means Pressman or had ever crossed Ziz.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: He claimed was potentially in mortal peril. He started texting
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: me every time he heard a raccoon rooting through his garbage.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So that's why JT kept talking about raccoons in the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: last episode without shadowing or mine col.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, I don't know. Uh. All I know is
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that my gut says maybe yeah, continuing quote he said
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he said, uh. Quote he said he believed it was
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Zizz come to murder him, and she gives examples. She says,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: he claimed that Ziz was trying to poison him through
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the postal service because.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Oh we got ai for.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: You guys, because some of his male was damaged in transit.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: He told me he tried sending the envelope to the police,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: but of course the police weren't interested, perhaps because that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: fucking insane. Yes, because when I see a bent coupon
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: from Bed Bath and Beyond, I too assume chemical right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: But they're like box trucks. Had to be like bioweapons
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in there from how nasty they were. Who knows what
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: they have access to in those box trucks, is all.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: This is the amount of dandruff that ended up within
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the envelope.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, hold, I'm sorry. Before we go on, Annie
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: has suggested her name the Purest of garbage Custer, a
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: porn name. She's gonna yell at me later anyway, I'm sorry,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jaya.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No, it's okay. I was thinking of a failed porn
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: name and all I can think of was Bertha. So
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: so then he believed a random car parked on the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: street for over an hour was actually his coming to
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: kill him. And if I remember right, he sat at
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: his window with his gun, texting me in a manic frenzy,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: telling me how he was ready to die. The person's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: watched too many Jason Bourne movies and thought he was
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in mission delusional. Imagine being the poor Uber Eats driver
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: just trying to deliver some pad tie and now you're
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: a suspected assassin.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: One look, it reminds me of the Beetle juice worm,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the way like Zizz's neck is sticking out of that car.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: But also, these people don't have any fucking jobs. Why
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: can't they be in Seattle just hanging out. They're not
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: doing anything with their lives, so, in fairness, could kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of be me. What are they doing?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Besides, we've got another name, Sammy said, sugar.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Kik touts nice doing youth opera, but we'll get to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that later.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Oh oh, okay.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: In classic so, continuing on that, he heard pipes in
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: his house clang, which is which he said, was clearly
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Zizz coming to murder him. Why does this is a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: great cross between Zizz and Val? Does anybody else think this?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: There is a very never mind? All right? Apparently this
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is in the walls, he whispered, as his nineteen twenties
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: plumbing did its regularly scheduled midnight jazz solo. Truly, I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: think it's his home begging for a plumber and not Ziz.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What are you can do?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: She has more fingers than she's supposed to.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: We should fear, ai, we should.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: It's still see.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, Actually I'm a little scared by the little tiny
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: pink ball against the wall in the background. That's kind
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of right. I will point that out every time. That's weird,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: all right. Also, he thought a rattling in the trash
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: bin in the middle of the night was clearly Ziz
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and not a raccoon.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: They are a.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Little bike helmets.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know when even the raccoons are like, chill, bro,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: We're just looking for snacks. Also said that a car
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: horn outside his house at night was super suspicious. What
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: could it be, I mean, not something completely unrelated to him. No,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be Zizz, he said. Now, as comical as
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: these accusations are, they represent a problem because he started
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: going to his local police with them, and the police
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: have so far ignored him, but he has escalated. He
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: added to his Google search history the phrase quote if
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I die Zizz and friends dead names did it and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: several insurance files on his person and set up to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: go out upon his death, stating that if he were
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to die Ziz, then her friends are responsible. Can we
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: get this guy a conspiracy boarder? Bring budget please?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't the only time we're going to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: hear somebody's claim that's something very similar to them. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we learned what Zis's other
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: can was. We know Gwen was a dragon, but maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Siss is a raccoon. We don't know what she's gonna
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: be when this singularity comes. There's a little like gloves
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: on the hand.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's kind of like a red panda in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a sports bra. But I'm into it not that way.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: But now maybe I don't know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's looking good.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: A lot more approachable, I'll tell you that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Or more approachable at least she's actually the trash panda
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that she always wanted to be.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's true. That's true.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Oh hey, it's me. I think Zis is more.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: To it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Anyways. I think this is more Beta dire wolf like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: because she's paranoid, trembling, constantly yapping, and ready to bite
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: its shadows calling it divine vengeance like she's a pocket
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: sized panic attack and a faux for hood. That's about right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That's very creepy. Actually, I don't like the human hands
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that are not hands and.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: The like sleeves kind of flash. Yeah, this one is
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the most disturbing somehow. But don't worry because wait for it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I have basilisk in my Zi's other can pool. But
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like a or Boros combined, we're gonna get canceled. Just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: see what's happening in this AI image. We all see it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: We're not going to describe it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You know what we call it in the Squad show.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It's why you need to watch YouTube and also download
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: her podcast at the same time.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, this one, this picture definitely. She was like, cavin
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: include this, and I was like, oh, yes, we do.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: This is the description of the slide. I'm dead.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's sake has a bodacious upstairs.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It's true. That's true. Now, you know, maybe it is
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a little paranoia, since pressman did live several hours away
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: in Seattle, but he is so freaked out that Ziz
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: is trying to kill him that he goes out and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: buys a gun. Okay, And according to the ex Pressman
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: said he wouldn't feel safe until Ziz and her friends
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: were in jail. So she also goes on to say, look,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: there's a little raccoon. I think there's a theme for
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: tonight's show. You guys on the slide show. Let's you
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: guys count how many you see starting there?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: So she goes on to say that Ziz says she
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: wasn't doing anything to him and that she was actually
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: the one who was was being harassed, and YadA, YadA, Okay,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: there's a whole lot of drama and accusations in there
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: that as much as we would love to get into tonight,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: we don't have the time for it. But maybe in
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: members only we might read it, because I would love
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: to read it and do this person's voice who I
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: do not like. I do not like her. But anyway,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: you know, again, how true is what the ex is
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: claiming we don't know, okay, but knowing what we do know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: what do you guys think do you think Ziz would
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: allow someone to make this hate site about her and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: slam to her and just let her let it go
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: and move on like she loves her shit when her
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: roommate asked her for an advance on rent. Okay, I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: can't imagine she would be happy about about this happening.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: So what do you guys think do you think that
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: this could possibly I mean, we're not saying that it happened,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: but like it could have, you know, And that's all
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: we're really gonna say about Pressman. Pressman doesn't really have
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a role in the rest of this story. We do
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: know that he's alive, so Ziz didn't kill him, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Zizzion's dot info is still is still up, so that's great.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for that. By the way, Pressman, appreciate it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: This great doing the lord's work. I haven't come because
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't come across him speaking out anywhere since this
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: whole Zizzy and story broke in January. I mean, I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: wouldn't blame the guy if he was, like told you so,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: because I would to everybody that would listen, I would
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: like I have been telling you guys for five freaking years. Okay,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: But he also wouldn't be the first person to go
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: into hiding because they fear for their lives, Like, not
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the first person to do that. So make of that
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: information that you will.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the blog was an interesting read, and I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: did love the raccoon meme. But uh, there, it's hard
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to believe that this person, uh knowing where his ends
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: knowing where his ends up, It's hard to believe that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Pressman was just making all this stuff up like fear.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I understand living with fear, you know, it's not rational.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: You hear a noise, you're scared, Like I, I completely
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from, and you know, I appreciate him.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Pressman prevented anyone from joining this cult,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: but good on him for trying, right.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it takes a lot more than a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: website to get anyone to do anything these days. We've
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: tried to prevent a lot worse with a lot more,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and here we are.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: That's awesome, true. I mean, he allegedly did go to
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the cops several times, so there is that. But he
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: didn't really have much of the cops could go off of.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, you know, it is what it is.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: But he did try, so I'll give him that, you know.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And I will say in regards to the ex that
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: posted this, oh honey, your postage like milk, didn't it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I did, didn't it? Yikes? It's how embarrassing for you?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now next we are going to do some quick
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: time traveling, so everyone hold on to your butts. So
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to spring of twenty two. Now, not much
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: has changed in two years. The now dubbed Zizians are
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: still living in their box trucks on Curtis Land's property.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: They're all still sorting out their protest criminal charges in court,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and the same four Ziz Gwen, Emma, and Somny had
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: filed that federal civil right lawsuit against the County Westminster
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Woods and the Sheriff's Department, also related to the protest.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: On April eleventh, twenty twenty two, a bench warrant was
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: issued on Gwen for failing to appear in court over
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: her criminal charges, which is not a great look.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. No. About a year later,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the group's civil attorney Jered Friedman filed a motion to
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: withdraw from that case and did it. He says, this
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit wine, all right. Vote. On or about
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: April twenty twenty two, I heard a rumor that Gwen
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Danielson may have committed suicide. I have since attempted to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: contact Gwen Danielson by the same means that we usually communicate,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: including by email and phone, approximately ten times. My phone
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: calls to her on or about July twenty twenty two
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: resulted in a message stating that her voicemail was full,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: and on or about August twenty twenty two, her phone
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: number was disconnected. I have not received any contact from
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Gwen Danielson since January twenty first, twenty twenty two. On
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: September ninth, twenty twenty two, I received an email, apparently
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: from a friend of Gwen Danielson, that asked if I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: could share anything about her rumored suicide. Taken at face value,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the email confirms that Gwen Danielson is missing from her friends.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I have no information on whether Gwen Danielson is alive,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and if she is alive, where she might be end quote.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: And there is We've loved all right, There's no obituary
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: ever made. No death certificates doesn't exist. There those stupid
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: buttons on the side of gaming nice or mouse. I don't.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you say that? I don't know. Anyway,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I hate them. It's all you need now, Hampster, I
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: know I'm what are you on Twitch? Yes, I'm also
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: a Twitch streamer on the side. No, I'm not people,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't so.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, you would do all on Twitch.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I certainly would make people laugh. Yes, all right, So
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: in the death or disappearance of our beloved dragon Gwen,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: if that isn't bizarre enough for you guys. On August night,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, just before midnight, the US Coast Guard
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: responded to a report that a person had fallen out
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: of a boat named the Black Sagat into the San
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Francisco Bay. And that bay is no joke, you guys.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: That's why they put Alcatraz in the middle of it. Okay,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: no woy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Now, the first off, I jumped out of a black
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Swan too, But second off, I was totally like trying
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to you know, I wanted to give just a little
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: bit of context regarding the bay and it's like thirteen
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: miles side to side and like forty miles top to bottom,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and like at high tide, a quarter of the bay's volume,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: five hundred billion gallons flows in and out past the
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Golden Gate. And I mean that water, that water moves. Yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it's what like, Yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that they have a lot of positive rescues.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Can't imagine.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, and even the escape from Alcatraz that they
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: think they might have made, it is like it's like.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: The sharks and shit in there.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: So like serious show the West Coast, Yeah, West Coast
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is a messing around.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So, and who was on that boat, you guys? Ziz,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: who apparently still for some reason owns this boat at
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the time. I don't know, I don't know when she
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: sold it, but the Black Ciket is her boat, if
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you're remember right, So, Ziz, Emma and Zizz's real life
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: sister Naomi was on that boat. Now. According to some
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: declarations that were later filed in court, Emma said that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Ziz fell into the water at about eleven PM while
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: working on the motor quote, I lost sight of Jack
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: while looking for a life preserver. Apparently, her and Naomi
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: searched the water and called out for her, but she
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: was nowhere to be seen. So that's when they used
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a boat radio and Naomi's phone to call for help.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: She must not have been wearing her bike helmet. She
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: could have used that as a floaty, That's all I'm saying.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: So she didn't think this through.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I definitely want the person who needs a bike helmet
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to sail to be working on the motor.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Like helmet's a priority, but not life best. No, I mean,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: we learned two things about boats, wasn't about life best.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So after this, the coastguard conducts a thirty hour search
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: looking for her, but to noah vail. A few days later,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: on August twenty third, Zizz's criminal defense attorney, Dan Kapelovitz,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: told the judge over zoom that his client A Zizz
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: A A. Jackal Soda, was dead. Even her civil attorney,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Freedman said in his motion to withdraw, I have since
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: had several conversations with Jackly SODA's mother, who confirmed that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Jackal Soda died and that a probate attorney has been hired.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: They even published an obituary for her in their local
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Alaska newspaper, and apparently she loved blueberries.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Fun fact about this call leader, she loves blueberries. But also,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: oh my god, how cute is that little retcoon?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Hold on, wait, are blue Are all blueberries vegans? I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: didn't know what their diet preferences are?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: All of them makes have Violet beaugerguard.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, Violet, you're turning Violet.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Can we take her to the juicing room please?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So at this point, too out of Friedman's four clients
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: are by all accounts.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Believed to be dead.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Y I imagine that is not a common thing to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: run into. And spoiler alert, things are really not going
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to go well for the other two defendants. Emma insomny.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: No now, just because this is criminal, lawyer Kapelovitz told
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the judges was dead, the court would need more legal proof.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Since there's no body to outright dismiss the case. A
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: death certificate had not been produced. I'm not sure how
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: long it would realistically take to get one in this scenario. Anyway,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the wheels of justice kept spinning, and because she failed
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: to show up to an October twenty twenty two court hearing,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: a bench warrant was issued for arrest.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Like what gets me is that they just assumed death,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: like they didn't think, like maybe absconding, Like we're will
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: past assuming the best worst best, do you know what
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like we are past this.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm not sure what you expected them
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to think though, j T. All Right, the coast guard
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: said it would have been unsurvivable. I mean, they couldn't
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: have possibly known that she was in training with her
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: whole shark hemisphere sleep thing. Maybe her other kin was
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: actually a shark instead of a raccoon. Are you guys
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: ready to sing with me? You're gonna hear me so much? Ready,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Sizzy shark do do? Sizzy shark do.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Shark?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, somebody asked me to sing on Thursday.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: My head is like a shark spin.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, Deepest is like a shark fin Deepest freaking love
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Ella Cool Day and deep Blue sy love that movie.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Love Your Girl.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: We got way too excited about some deep blue syre.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Love it anyway, carry us on, JT, because.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: We've lost the plum I used to use. My head
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: is like a I used to use that as like
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: an example of assimile in my class. Anyways, moving on,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: we are now in November of twenty twenty two, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: we just want to say a little bit about Curtis
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Lynd here. Curtis Lind was eighty years old, and he
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: was well known for his generosity, resilience, and deep involvement
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: in his community. I mean, look look at this fella. Also,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: he looks better than I do, and I'm what I am. Anyways,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: he was a well respected figure in his neighborhood. He
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: was often seen engaging in local cleanup efforts and fostering
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: relationships with those around him. Lind was described by friends
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and neighbors as kind hearted, principled, and fiercely independent. His
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: willingness to provide shelter, even to unconventional tenants understatement, reflected
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: his open minded and compassionate nature. Uh. He also was
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a father and a grandfather. And he just seems like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a really great dude who's searfaring and seafaring adventures like
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I would like to listen to. And he also seems
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like somebody that Ziz would reach out to and latch on.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I mean wearing that hat, I mean that guy definitely
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: here it is, and there's the hat cabin the same hat.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: To memorialize him and pay tribute to to have hurt
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: his land. Yes, boiler's his taste and hat. Oh yeah, well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: he thought that's how happy ended. I don't know where
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: you've been the last four episodes, but it's not gonna
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: go got so.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Lynd and his tenants were initially friendly, if unconventional. They
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: lived in the trailers and box trucks and had a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: collection of samurai swords. M He talked about how he
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: would see them right around the yard dressed in all black. Friend, Patrick,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm disappointed in most by these people, okay,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: is the fact that they are Star Wars fans and
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I never heard one damn thing about goddamn lightsaber Okay,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: no one, No lightsabers. They weren't fighting in the freaking
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: plot with what are we even doing? What are you
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: doing with your lives?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Lightsabers are not rational.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Potter fanfiction.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: You know how many? You know how many lightsabers we
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: have in the house. We even have like some of
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: those really really fancy ones that like they'll go in
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the yard and play like, come on, what are you
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: guys even doing?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead, cosplays as the Emperor on a tugboat.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think that we're looking for official like licensing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: So Lynn's friend Patrick McMillan was much more suspicious of
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: members of group, who he said would sometimes walk around
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the property nude. Honestly, not the worst thing they've done.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: It's the worst thing they've done.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, Amy, can you circle your little mouse around the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: person in the picture so people can see that? Thank
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: your babes. Oh, it's hilarious that this is on Google Maps.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Like the dry around missus haapany may have underwear on,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: by the way. You may not be able to see
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: it at home, but there's like black Speedo Lake underwear maybe.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: And you know, I love findes like this, And I'm
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: going to go with that is the same red Prius
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that we heard about in the Seafar protest. I'm gonna
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: go with.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that's the same box truck and possibly
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the same car next to it. All I'm saying is
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: that if you don't want people to know that you're
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: living in a box truck, probably shouldn't get photos taken
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: of you by Google.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that's probably the same underwear as
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: worn in the protest. I have literally dove behind a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: fence to avoid the Google car before, so I don't
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: want to be on there.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: There they are.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know how well you can see the picture,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: but Google blurred the contents of the back of the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: black hatchback. There's the almost nude figure totally unblurred going.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And I've said it before, I'll say it again. The
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: pictures of this group really convey a certain sense of smell.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean they can't smell. It can't smell,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: budge you, guys, it can't. They're shitting in a bucket
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: in their vans.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh no, hands in hands.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: We don't know who that is, but it is what
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: it is. One of the Sizzians, guys. This is the
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: shot from when they were living on It looks like
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: a real situation.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Is who else could it be? Like? Come on now,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: I'm ashamed them if they're comfortable walking around like that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know I made other people uncomfortable. Yes,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: but it's also California where it's like super warm out
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: like I don't know, I just think it's funny.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Probably you're not running the ac in your box truck, how.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I was?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys, Yeah.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, Patrick testified in court that Gwen was
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the mouthpiece quote unquote of the group and in their
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: first conversation asked him to buy her a gun. Quote
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: She said she was in some sort of litigation and
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: she was having problems with.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It normal to have with your neighbor.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, the only litigation is the protest, which is
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: like for misdemeanors and felony, Like, what do you need
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: a gun for it? But Okash, this is alleged. We
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: don't know this to be true. This is alleged.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: So so shortly after he allowed the Zizians to move
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in the COVID pandemic hit and despite the financial difficulties
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that he himself had, he showed leniency by waiving rent
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: payments for some of his tenants.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just a lovely gentleman, Like he could
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: have sent them back to the half sung uss regrets
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: in poor logic, but he didn't.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did have somewhere else to go. But he
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: does seem like a supportive person. His goodwill, however, was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: met with increasing resistance when he eventually sought to collect
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: overdue payments or remove tos who refused to comply with
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: his terms. There wasn't much lind could really do about
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it for some time because there was a state rent moratorium.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Lynn's daughters said the squatters overtook the property, placing locks
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: on trailers intended for other people.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Mmm, that's so great, aboum.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Eventually Lynd was able to take them to court, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: on October twenty sixth, twenty twenty two, the group was
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: court ordered to vacate the property after none of them
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: showed up for court.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Surprise.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Do you guys want to take a guess at how
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: much their unpaid rent balance was?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's give them a guest and a chat.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: You guys got thirty seconds because we're on a thirty
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: second delay. Let's let's throw int.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Who you have?
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, deve our deepest bluest had just like a
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: shock fit, deepest Bluest that's like a shock fit. Oh
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: my god, I'm still gonna listen to a song, isn't it?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Video? No, you gotta watch the video.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know now that we all three did it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Somebody took a screenshot, you know.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I hope So. I love all shark movies except for
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Shark Nado. I can't. I'm sorry. I can't. I don't like.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, one is fine, but like I watched them,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I love I do love the weather, and I do
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: love sharks, which are like two of my favorite things.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: But like I dedicated my time to one. And that's enough.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: That's all the time I'm willing to give. Amos says
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: three thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine dollars.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Give it two more, guys, go over.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: This is the price is right, right rules, right prices,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: right rules over here, give us two more.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Well, come on, guys, come on awake and shot.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm a little disappointed. I can see
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed because it it's empty, and I
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: don't feel a damn thing.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Oh. Amos went with six hundred and sixty six dollars
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: and says six k All right, Cavin, why don't you
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: tell them.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Well, price is right? I think lady and Gray wins
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: because it's fifty thousand dollars another ten thousand, one hundred
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and seven dollars for holdover damages and court costs.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: That's a document right there, you guys boom.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: That is it is egregious and acidine and I'm glad
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I could fit both of my favorite words in a
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: sentence tonight, MM.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Sixty thousand dollars and getting kicked off the property smells
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: like a motive to me, that's just that's smells.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: It's probably like bo and doctor Browner's to me.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Doctor all right now? In in this court document that
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: we're showing you here, we have it.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: We have it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: So it lists a total of twenty two defendants. Okay,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: the only recognizable names on it though, is Gwynn Danielsen,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Amma Borhanian, and Zizdo Like apparently she's just going by
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: one name. Now, I don't know, right, bitch would thinks
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: she's shared get out of here anyway. So we're not
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: sure who the other nineteen people listed in it are
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: or if they're part of the Zizians as well. I mean,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I haven't come across any any of these names in
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: my research so far, and they could be separate tenants
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: from the Zizians because they weren't the only people living there.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: I mean Patrick, you know, Patrick was living there other people,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: so it could just be a blanket everybody. We don't know.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: But there's also missing names from this order of people
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: that we do know for a fact. We're there who
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: are living there at like Somni and Surrey Down. So
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what to make of these names here, but.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you know me, I tried to look up some
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: of these names. I found some interesting things. People I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: would definitely think are not related to the group that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: are like Car enthusiast rappers. But also uh, there's a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: nome Marks on the list, which apparently is a character
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: on a Netflix show called Sinse eight, which I have
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: never seen. But they're described as a transactivist, So I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: mean that minds.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting some some Oh my gosh, who is that?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Who is that joining us for the show? Could that
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: be jes for the Friendly Goats?
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: But hey, yes, just right.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Do you look at that cute that birthday boy sidetrack?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Say hi, hi, Jasper, do you have any thoughts about
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: the Zizziyans. They're bad?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I mean we did get we did get a request
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: from Annie, but Annie to have more chest.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Well there h and she gets what she wants as always.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Look drop by and say hi, we are watching nineteen
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: twenty three or oh twenty three whatever it is.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: You're not you're not watching the stream.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: She's like off, Okay, No, I was with my grandson
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: and the goats.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: In my lap.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Oh I love that. Well, thank you for coming and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: brightening up our our string because things are about to
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: not be great, so it was perfect timing.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Well, well, I watched her a little bit before I
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: jumped in because before it got dark and I go
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: crawl in bed with my grandson to watch TV.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jasper is like our little emotional support animal. Yes.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, every time every time he's on camera, I feel
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: like he's judging me. He looks like he's judging me.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, Jasper did something tonight that I had to google.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: He keeps lifting his top lip up and showing his mouth,
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: which he's never done before. Apparently they do that to
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: sniff in the spring for female goats and heat.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I get.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Some what's your eyebrap ornate? Jasper? Say, Jasper, you're not
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: getting any.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jasper.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: I was rooting for you. Oh see there's Annie and
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: he says, oh, Jesper.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: He aren't you glad you remembered it was Sunday?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: You should let them get back to doing what they
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: are supposed to be doing and not playing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: With you nobody. It's so cute. Well, thank you Terry
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: for bringing some joy into our stream tonight. Have fun
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: getting dark, Love you, miss.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: I will have y'all in my ear while I'm watching
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: bumblebee or something.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Transformer oh transformers, yes, yes, okay, I know what you're
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: For a second, I was like yellow jackets.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Yellow jackets, not yellow jacket with Oh my goodness, well
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: thank you were right losing everybody over here, well, thank you.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: We love seeing jess Hi you hat on real quick?
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: Hat?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Oh look at you. Gotta catch them all, buddy. I
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: love that you limb.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out on the limb. Definitely smells better
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: than ziz.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, definitely better than this.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Definitely better.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Well, guys, have fun.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: I will be listening in my ear because it's about
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: to get dark and I do need to sleep tonight.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, don't have little one to listen to it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hair folks, Bye, guys, thanks for letting us pop in.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, by hey bye bye. I love that. Look at that.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: We have all sorts of celebrities around here. We can
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: pull anyone on anytime.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: For a second, somebody joined, I was like Amy here,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: not quelling you out. We want you on the stream.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, should we take a poll for many people want
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Apamy to join the show in a future episode. I'm
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: going to lose all my friends tonight. Oh that's right.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: My shark finned sister. All right?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Oh god, oh.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, So lind is taking to court, all right,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: twenty two defendants. They have six thousand dollars.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: So Lynn said that after he took the group to court,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: one of them took out a pocket knife and patted
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: the blade while smiling at him. It's at this time
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Lynn began carrying a pistol in his jacket pocket. But
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: that wasn't enough, he said. Quote I should have been smarter.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: End quote. This conflict culminated in a violent attack on
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: November thirteenth, twenty twenty two, just two days, two days
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: before everyone was set to be evicted. Two.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, oh, I shouldn't have been No, no, no, sir,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: people shouldn't be assholes. Like. It has nothing to do
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: with how smart you are. There is no way you
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: could have ever predicted that something like what is you're
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: about to describe is going to happen. So for the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: next part, I just want to say everything we're about
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: to say is alleged. Nothing has been proven in the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: court of law. Yet as a matter of fact, the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: trial for this is supposed to begin this month. But
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: this is what we have to work with for now.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: So according to Lynn's friend Patrick, he said on the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: night of the attack, he saw individuals running through the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: yard with headlamps like sadistic snow White cosplayers. At some
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: point Lynde called him sounding very distressed because he said
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: people were pummeling his door and windows with rocks. Now,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: according to prosecutors, in the early morning hours, Lind was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: lured by Surrey Dow to check on a purported water
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: leak before someone struck Lind over the head and knocked
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: him on the ground. Dow and Emma then allegedly stabbed
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Lind with knives. Quote. The next thing I remember is
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: standing up with three of them right next to me
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: around me. I was bleeding from numerous puncture wounds. I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: think around fifty. I couldn't see out of my right eye.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: It had been punctured three times. The back of my
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: neck had some severe cuts, like someone was trying to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: cut my head off.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Fucking yikes.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: There was a samurai sword impaled through his chest, allegedly
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: by Somny Somehow during all this, Lynde was able to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: pull out his gun and start shooting. He managed to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: get himself to his bestie Patrick's door. The police arrived,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: finding Linde bleeding out. Somni had several gunshot wounds and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: was taken to the hospital, and thirty one year old
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Emma Burhanian was declared dead. Curtis ended up being hospitalized
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: for a month and lost his right eye.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, he freaking survived like a freaking badass, all right,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: eighty years old, step fifty time? Like what even what
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: even look at him? Look at this man, Okay, look
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: at him. Truly a miracle in my book, that he
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: survived that. It's crazy.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it had to be out of sheer will.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Like Curtis wasn't going to let this be the way
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: he goes, not with like a Samurai Palpatine. This is
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: not how it ends. So yeah, crazy, but.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: What He's a real man, not at cosplay Jedi or
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: said sorry right. What's extra crazy is that Linn's friend
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: claims that when entering one of the trailers afterwards, he
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: found surgical equipment and chemicals he believes were intended to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: dissolve Lynn's body. They also found a cash of samurai's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: swords and one of the tenants box trunks and said
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: that there was a big pot in it and it
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: appeared like it was set up to put bodies in.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: You may think maybe they're exaggerating, Yeah, and maybe they are.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: The reminder almost two years later, Young Blocks, North Carolina,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Lanylmorton was weirded out when he found a stretcher in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: their living room. I did check the spreadsheet, so I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: know that Gwen personally did not buy a huge pot because.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: He told us everything that's true Wednesday.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine like having the forethought to do this.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Like sure they're smart, but they also like did the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: boat thing like this, So like my thought is like
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: this could not possibly have been the very first time.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Like that's a lot of thought.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: But you know, I mean the fact that Curtis, thanks
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: though his head is trying to be cut off and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: they were going to dismember him and dispose it. That's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: his thoughts. I'm not saying that is what's happened. That's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: what he interpreted was going to happen to him. Is
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: freaking horrifying. Like we do a lot of true crime
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: in this channel, and that's story is one of the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: darker ones that like and to survive that feeling like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: that's what you thought that these people were going to
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: do with you? Like what anyway, So Nowsomny and a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: person named Surrey Dow were both arrested, okay, and they
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: were each charged with several charges. Charge Number one fel
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: any murder for the death of Emma. Some of you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: may be wondering what does that mean? All right? Why
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: would Surrey Dow and Psomny be charged with the murder
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: of Emma because they were in the act of committing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: a felony i e. Assault on another person or attempted
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: murder really and somebody died in the process. That is
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: what felony murder is. Whether or not you expected Emma
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: desire or not, that's the law. That's how it works.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Second charge felony murder attempted for the attack on Curtis Lynn.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: That was for him specifically. We also got felony agriv mayhem,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: which I don't see very often, and I just like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: the name of the charge, Mayham, but mayhem is a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: really good Mayhem is a really good way to describe
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: what we just heard about. They also got enhancements on
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: these charges, which is never good, never good. Enhancement number
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: one GBI the victim being seventy years or older, because
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: in our society, you attacking old people is a problem,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: a big problem. Okay, another enhancement inflict great bodily injury
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: or use of the firearm, fifty scab wounds, and a
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: samurai sword through this man. Those are the charges they got,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: you guys, both of them. And we will get into
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: more of their legal woes here in a second. Because
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: guess what, you guys, Guess what. Surrey dw wasn't the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: only person that was taken down to the police station
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: for questioning.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Are we gonna need some more cheese for this wine
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: we're about to get?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Guess what? Surprise? This is alive? Everybody? Can you believe?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my? What good? I mean? Awe? I mean this
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: is complicated. I'm in a glass case of emotion located
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: at the base of Broke Bitch Mountain.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Uh so, you guys, that's right. She dramatically faked her
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: own death just months briar, because of course she did.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: She's amazing. It appears she had been living on Lynn's
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: property still and was at the scene of the attack.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: At some point she was handcuffed at gunpoint. Okay. She
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: was taken to the Vallejo Police station for questioning, where
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: a homicide investigator said, Mary get fired up again, said
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: she faked a medical emergency and was taken by Annual
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: It's to a hospital. Then she fucked off and went
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: into hiding. No charges were filed against her. Now, I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: don't think she has anything to do, uh physically with
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: what happened to curtis lying, but here she is.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if anyone remembers the rat fleet
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: episode when the first thing she did when learning the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: sail was research about dying of hypothermia after falling in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: the water. That was foreshadowing.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Bless it.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I no one was watching her.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Get did you not learn anything from Gwen? There are
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: only two things you needed to know about boats, and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: that was not one of them.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Correct. I also didn't learn anything about boats in that statement.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I's true. Okay.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: So now.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Their civil attorney, Freedman wrote in his motion to withdrawal,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: and it's important and then I make this clear to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: everyett that it's listening. Okay, this lawyer cannot lie in
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: these motions about any conversations he's had with people or
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: anything like that, he will get disbarred. Okay, A lawyer
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: is not going to fuck around making excuses like this
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: for their client. Just wants you to all keep that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: in mind, all right, So now their silvil attorney. Friedman
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: wrote in his motion to withdrawal that two days after
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: the attack on Lend, he receives an email from Deputy
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: District Attorney Susan Bean of the Sonoma County District's Attorney's
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: office that said, quote, I just wanted to reach out
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: and let you know that Jack Blisoda was contacted by
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: the police in Vallejo this weekend. Les Soda was on
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: the scene live and well, mm yea boiled again, says
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: you know, so like I need to know more about
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: this whole fake deat scene. I mean, we knew, we
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: know that Emma knew it was all bullshit, right because
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: she was still living with Ziz at the time of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: the Lynn thing, so she had to know that Ziz
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: made it all up. But like, did Zizz's family know?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Is the next question? Personally. Personally, I think Zizz set
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: her own sister up to make this more convincing because
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: like the lawyer talked to her mom and they put
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: out an obentuary. I really, I really don't think that
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: they're involved. And if whatever happened here is really fucked up,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: no matter which way you think about it, Okay, either
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: they know and participated and that's fucked up, or they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: didn't know, and Zis did all of this to them,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: making his family, her family believe that she was dead,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: and how fucked up that is to do your family,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: which I'm going to go with the second one because
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: that's more on brand for Ziz, and you know, to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: do that to your own family. You've wasted all these
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: resources from the freaking Coast Guard. Oh this pisses me
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: off so much. She pisses me off so much. I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: do not like her. She's so disgusting.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Well sorry, once again, maybe hold onto your butts, because
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: this wasn't the only ghost the police saw that morning.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: They spotted Gwen there as well.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Our dream dragon queen has emerged from the flames.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no no nope.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Only Lama is our dragon queen. There is no other
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: dragon queen that is that.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I'll take it. That's true. That's also true, so it's
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: more factual than half the ship they than's being so.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Gwen was also not churched with anything from the end,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: and our favorite dragon flew away and also went into hiding.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Why these two decided to fake their own deaths we
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: don't know yet. I'm sure the mounting legal problems stemming
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: from the abandonment of the Caleb, the protests, civil suit,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and eviction probably contributed to it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: You know, too often, too often to these folks want
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: to live without issues or care, and they think they're
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: too good for the world. But then when the world
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: looks back at them and slaps them with actual repercussions,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: they can't handle it and they just fuck off.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Well. What's interesting, though, is that this is where Gwen's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: part of the story ends. As a matter of fact,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: it wasn't until recently the world actually found out that
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: she was alive. Her father, Brett Danielson, has given some
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: interviews recently, and according to him, at some point when
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: and put herself in a self imposed exile, he said
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: that she has been living off the grid, working construction
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: jobs under a fake name, apparently afraid that the members
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: of the group might hunt her down. HM that said
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: email us Gwen.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Yes girl, yes girl, reach out to me, Aunt Tarattcwtmedia
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: dot Com, Like we all want to talk to you
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: very much, very much.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: It's on the screen.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: It is look at that. It's calling for you, for you, Gwen,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: you know, And I just I want to go back
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: to j D Pressman from earlier being worried about this
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: murdering him and does he sound as paranoid now, like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: like he's making all this up? I mean, you have Gwynn,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: this is bestie being like, I'm worried these mofos are
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: gonna come kill me, which they do they can, like allegedly.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Sam Sam said, they think they can go off the grid,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: but then they come back to the grid, wondering why
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: is everyone obsessed with me?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Perfect?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Perfect Sam? Perfect?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: And I you know obviously Gwen. I don't know the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: details surrounding her fake death, but you know what she
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: didn't do. Her family didn't make an obituary, all right,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: They didn't call up the Coastguard looking for and race
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: wasting a bunch of shit, Like do I think it's
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: cool that Gwen may possibly face her own death? No?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: All right, but she wasn't a fucking asshole like Ziz
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: was about it, Okay.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I mean when it when I don't know, I don't
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: know her life. Like I've looked into a lot of
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: these people, and like I try to give everybody a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: fair playing field and start out with like trying to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: sympathize and see them as victims potentially, and like Gwen
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: is the most. I mean, I know there's the mind
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: control experiments and all that, but like Gwenn doesn't say
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: anything that makes me be like, you're an asshole. A
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: lot of these people you dig deep enough or something,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: there's something to find, uh. If your options are faking
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: your own death or being stabbed through the chest with
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: the samurai sword, I think I know what I would pick. Yeah,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I mean just to say, Gwen, we'd love to talk
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to you. We won't tell you. You don't know these people.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: As Capin says, she's the only person I know that
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: hasn't written or said things. I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: So of our ideas are a little out there and whatnot,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: but we all have out their ideas. I'm willing to
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: listen to them and not paulas is on you is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: all I'm saying, okay, we can talk because super intelligent dogs.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I want to hear about it.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear about the super intelligent.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: And this is not an actual, it's not a cult coming. Yeah, yes,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I got better. I'm better now. So let's go back
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: to Somny. Soomney was recovered from the shooting and is
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: currently can we go back to the dragon? Please? Incarcerated?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: That made it better? Made it better? Thank you? Uh,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: currently incarcerated in the Solano County jail awaiting trial that
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: is supposed to start this month. Didn't know she's not
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: representing herself this time. If we've learned anything about Somny
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: when she's in trouble with the law, it's that she's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: very uncooperative. As if all the protest charges and murder
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: charges weren't enough, she also has managed to gain two
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: additional felony charges in her time there, and guess what
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: for well, trying to escape from custody not once, but twice.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: She's obviously she's got a punch card apparently, so in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: one attempt, she was at a hospital accompanied by a deputy.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: When she feigned falling asleep, the deputy went to use
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the breastroom, and Soomny made a run for the door,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: but was quickly apprehended. The other time, she was being
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: transported to a court hearing, and she requested a wheelchair.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: She then attempted to flee, but was apprehended at a fence.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Uh the famously effective look over there technique. It would
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: have worked if fences didn't exist.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Iish those damn pesky fences, you know, No, I think
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: this is more evidence of the whole Zizians don't believe
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: in surrender that Pressman was talking about. Hashtag Pressman was right.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: I said that, but I mean.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: You know, so, just like previously. Yeah, oh, on both
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: feet if they wore them, just like previously. Court proceedings
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: have been routinely disrupted by her, including her chanting quote
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: this is a show trial to coordinate the genocide of
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: transgender people. During the hearings, she even wrote a complaint
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: to the judge about how the prosecutors had called her
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: political and religious beliefs quote delusions. Quote. It is my
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: belief that people re is it my belief that people reincarnate, incarnate.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: It is my belief that financially supported supporting death camps
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: and consuming the corpses of their victims is wrong and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: those who do so are monsters. When which of my
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: political and religion just beliefs is she claiming is a delusion?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: And why everything I believe I chose choose to believe
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: because it is good that it is true. Y'all listen, Sorry,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I had to get a yall in there for Terry
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: uh y'all. The government couldn't walk into bubblegum. At the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: same time, there's no way they could pull this together
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: if they tried, so.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: It took a lot of self control for me to
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: not put a like, ma'am, this is a Wendy's true
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: for saw me because like this is your murder trial
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: and you are just spouted like yes that you have
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: like yeah, trans right, I believe in trans writes, but like,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: is now the time for this?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: No, girl, it's not. Now is not the time. And
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: you know it's not even that. I don't even think
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: that the prosecution is saying those beliefs are what she's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: delusional about. What you're delusional about is how your case
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be laying out like they're oh, some girl,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: you allegedly ran a samurai sword through a person allegedly,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Captain is learning how buttons work. But you allegedly ran
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: a Samurai sword through the torso of a human being. Okay,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: let's maybe concentrate on that first, because you're looking at
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: life here. Actually you could be looking at the death penalty.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: California still has the death penalty. They still sentence people
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: the death penalty, even though it's an I'm sorry, what
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: is that called a moratorium? No? No, I think that
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: is right, the right word either way. Either way, girl,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: get it together, Okay, just like with the protest, she's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: just ranted nonsense. Anyway. So one of the biggest questions
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: since the attack of churnis Lynde has been who is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Surrey Dao? You guys, this plaguing me for like four weeks. Okay,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: I could not find shit on this person. No one could, right,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: nobody could for like a whole month until recently. And
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I want to say that this came from the San
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Francisco Chronicle. I think that's who did the piece, or
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: the San Francisco Fish or Valley Open Vallet HPE. Either way,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: those are my three sources. They're amazing at all of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: the journalism. All the credit goes to them they wrote up. Yeah,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: call us because I would love to have one of
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: those journalists on the show that have been literally covering
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: them since the days of the rap fleet and the protest,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: like their local news. They're not strangers too anyway. So
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Dell's identity has been a constant subject of lego debating court. Okay,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: So prosecutors say that the police bodycam footage showed that
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: dal made up the name on the spot as they
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: sat next to this in a police car, as well
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: as making up a different birthday. Prosecutors are saying that
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Surrey dow is actually Tessa Burns. So who is Tessa Burns?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: A fake a fake name? Was was that on Gwen's
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: list of needs or was it right under the emergency
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: equipment Hmmm?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was even on the all
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: because it would not be good advice when dealing with
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: the law. Okay, you don't have to actually tell them
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: who you are, but to give them a fake name
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: only put two in more trouble. Anyway. So it turns out, okay,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: Tessa Burns, and I'm calling them that for the sake
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: of this far the story, Okay, because we don't know
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: all the facts. It's in a legal conundrum right now. Okay.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: So Tessa Burns was adopted from China and was raised
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: in Denver, Colorado. Burns graduated from the Denver School of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Arts in twenty nineteen. So another young person in this
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: group here. So during their time, they were recognized for
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: their academic excellence, including placing third in the Colorado State
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Spelling Bee in twenty fourteen, which is a big deal.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many of y'all are nerds, but
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: that's like a pretty big deal. They identified as vegetarian,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: which means this would obviously be open to a conversation
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: with them, because that's Cristiera number one in order.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: To even talk with her, and or a blueberry or.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: A blueberry right, never mind, it's gonna see you think
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: you could train, says by, like with blueberries, Yes, saint
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: hard to be more of a normal like.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Batter or a water spray, one of.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: The two, right anyway. They identified as vegetarian and by gender,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: study creative writing and wrote fantasy genera genre fiction. Burns
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: was awarded a National Merit Scholarship and planned to study
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: computer science in math at Arizona State University on a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: full scholarship and other smarty pants. Everybody in the story
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: is frick and smarty pants. Burns had an interest in
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: making a positive impact in the world and considered themselves
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: to be an effective altruist. We've heard this, We've substituted
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: it as an EA effective altruist, not EA games. Anyway, however,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: this all took However, this all took a concerning turn
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: when Burns became associated with physizians.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is exactly who is going to look
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: for exactly like to like e A, it's in the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: game who should look for?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah know, so at first, what's wild? Right? You can
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: like find their blog and everything. Right, So, at first
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: it seems like Burns rejected many of Zizzu's ideas, with
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: them saying quote this hemisphere theory sounds false to me
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: en quote. They also called zizzus theory quote pseudo scientific
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: end quote. But for some reason, but for some reason,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: they expressed interest in trying out the unit hemispheric.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, sorry, that's system can only collapse you into something
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: that is less than you because she doesn't actually understand
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: people who are like you.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: So that's true, and then you just fall for it.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try the mind control things.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, are we over our overlooking something here? I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: feely we might be so. On May verse twenty twenty,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: they wrote in their own blog, because remember every single
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: person has a blog or a tumbler, whatever you want
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: to call it, to where they said, quote, I'm interested
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: in what will happen if I tried the sleep experiment
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: on myself without Gwen Orsiss's involvement end quote. They even
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: solicited participants for quote an our long psychology experiment involving
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: mild discomfort and potentially intimate disclosures end quote. I have
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: they had tables between them. Burns blog went silent in
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: May twenty twenty one.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: They were so close, We're so close to being on
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: the right path.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Oh it drives me insane because they're they're saying the
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: right things, and then they still say we're gonna try
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: the mind control Who's.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Down, like, I mean back hole her friend I think
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: it was Jessica, you know said that that Ophelia like
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: was being like, well some of this is bullshit, I'm
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: not really into it. And then what happened, Like I don't.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Did the sorry, did the IRB sponsor this? Because questioning.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Anyway. So around the spring of twenty twenty two, a
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: high school friend of Burns, Galen Metzinger, tried texting Burns,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: but the number was disconnected spring of twenty twenty two
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: and we just talked about the only highlight from that
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: is Gwen's possible death at the time. Anyway, So he
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: then tried online searching in discord servers looking for them,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: and that's when he heard that his friend and joined
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: a cult. Messinger said he tried to bring attention to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: a group by reaching out to journalists and the FBI,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: but he eventually gave up. Quote, it has taken that
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: long for anybody institutionally to care. I'm happy that it's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: happening now, but it's too late. The damage is done.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: There are bodies.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: M That's that's an awfully crappy way to learn about
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: a friend joining like they might as well have just
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: been told about it through aim like a like they
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: might might as well have just like added a couple
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: of emojis changed their font to like italics incursive and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: pink and like just I don't know, I'm.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Look you guys. Another person another is noo maics two
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: in this story alone too trying to warn the public
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: and the authorities about these people. So he also went
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: on to say in this article quote she could have
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: done great things. That's the worst part about this goddamn cult.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: It targets the best and brightest of us. Hard agree, Galen,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Hard agree very much.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic, sad because apparently Galen is like
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: a wonder can in predicting election outcomes.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Now, but is that related to other can.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Possibly knowing this crowd. I don't know. But he's as
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: a like twenty year old. There's multiple interviews with him
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: about his thoughts on elections, so it's just funny. I mean,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: it's sad, but he has all his foresight.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Me, I don't feel like it takes effective ultruistic know
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: what's going on. But alight.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: But okay, So now while Dow or burns, I'm going
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: to call them down to simplify things. Dow's in jail
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: and a phone call was recorded between them and Ziz,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: who allegedly convinced them to try to escape, which they did,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: but they didn't get far. I don't know. There might
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: have been some fences. Since they have been locked up.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: It does seem like their mental health has deteriorated so
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: much so that at one point the judge suspended the
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: proceedings while doctors determined whether they were able to participate
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: in their own defense.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: That is fucked.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: We know, prison slash jail isn't exactly the ideal location
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: for human beings, most assured, the human beings who are
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: still working on themselves. So I don't everybody's eye all right.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Annoying right now?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: No, it's just so let's continue on because the next
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: part is wild, wild to me.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Apparently at times, jail officials have had to resort to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: force feeding. Now, while a nurse sat outside their cell
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day on suicide watch, attorneys reported
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: they were self harming, which included biting their wrists and
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: suffering from delusional thoughts that led them to stick objects
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: in their eyes.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Here, guys, one, I don't know if you know how
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: force fading someone, how awful of an experience that is
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: for the people not only experiencing it, but to do it,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: all right, it's very disturbing to do and to bite
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: at your own wrist and put things in your eyes
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: like we are dealing. That is, there's some serious, serious
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: stuff here from them.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: Scary. Covered a lot of Yeah, I think one of
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: the most impactful things in terms of in prison in
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: people's experiences we've covered is Richard Allen. And this is
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: very very reminiscent. I mean, even having somebody outside and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: all that, I mean, the impact that that it will have,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: you know, no matter who the person is, whether the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: guilty and is whatever is horrible. And so I can
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: only imagine somebody who's so young, you know, having to
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: deal with this.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's really fucked up and good job,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: you know. Bringing Richard Allen as an example, we did,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: haven't seen the tapes yet, they haven't released them of
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: what he was in his time there, but from reports
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: it was very disturbing, disturbing behavior that was pretty bad,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: pretty bad, but anyway.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So both Somny and Dow are expected in court
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: this Tuesday, April eighth. We'll see if their trial will
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: be moving forward. There's been a lot of continuances. Yes,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: now California does not allow cameras in the courtroom, so
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: we will not be able to watch it, but we
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: will be gathering every single last detail we can find,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: and we'll bring you all the trial tea If and
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: when it happens annoying somny I think it's going to.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Happen, right, It annoys me so much that we can't
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: watch this because there's like some videos that I've heard about,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: like body came and stuff that we watch a lot
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: of trials here, like myself and Cap and some of
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: our audience, Like we're trial watchers, so you learn a
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: lot of things watching trials, right, because not everything you
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: read in the media before a trial is actually what
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: is put in this evidence. Right. We know that there's
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: bodycam footage from the police officers of this event, and
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: I want to see that with my own eyes. To
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: be quite honest with you, I want to hear a
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: lot of the evidence myself. I think that's the only
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: way somebody could can make accurate judgments, right. I mean,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: you can report it, but like it's better to hear
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: it yourself and come to your own conclusions. But that's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: not the law in California. So, but oh man, what
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: I would not give to see this courtroom. Oh my goodness.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I did read that the lawyers were expecting
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: this trial to take five weeks, which is reasonable for
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: having two defendants, but you know, they were saying that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: Linn Curtis Lind was their key witness. Okay, that tells
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: me that the prosecution still has way more on them
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: than just Curtis Land. Otherwise the trial would not last
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: five weeks. So I want to know what all is
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: going to be said, and we most assuredly, a most assuredly,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: we'll be doing an episode, a follow up episode of
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: this once court is sent and on, and we'll be
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: telling you guys everything you need to know about the
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: trial if it goes forward on Tuesday.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I'm like of the strong beliefs that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: I really shouldn't have to befriend a Russian the hack
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: in order to see some of the stuff that's him.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, all right. Anyway, So back listen back
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: to Curtis Lind because listen, because of the attack, Lynd's
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: medical expenses exceeded expectations and left him unable to find recover.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: And I doubt anyone paid off the sixty thousand dollars
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: and passed rent.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Oh fuck no they did it. No way any of
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: these assholes would have paid it off.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: But like also, like Thailand, all's fifteen bucks a pill
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: if given it a hospital and iboprobes around sixty bucks.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: Like if you're surprised that the exceeded expectations portion of
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: that line come out from the bubble you've been living
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: in in order to avoid medical fees and illness and
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: check prices. These days, it's not gonna get.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Better, girl, it's it's getting worse.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take it. So, Like as if things weren't
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: tough enough for lind In twenty twenty three, a year
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: after his incredibly remarkable recovery from the attack, he was
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: in a severe car accident that correcked multiple ribs and
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: can I I would have been broken from get go,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Like this man is Superman, but cracked multiple ribs and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: it left him with other injuries on top of that. Now,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: against all odds, he once again defied all expectations and
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: he recovered.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: You guys, this guy is so resilient. I mean there
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: he is missing his eyes, still smiling, pet in this
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: horse wearing his cool ass hat. You know again, total
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: bad us there, it is total bad us. Oh, by
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: the way, Amos said, right, Amos said, if we could
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: only have a fun to go in person and be there,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: you guys, I would fucking love that if you guys
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: want to pay me to go to California, that we.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: Just gotta get a really well placed and like scheduled
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: live show.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Now, I do know earlier I mentioned the three local
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: news agencies that have been reporting on them for a
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: long time. They did apply for me to permissions. They
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: did not get them for video. But I do believe
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: they might be live tweeting the whole like the reporters. Yes, yes,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: for open play ho uh cfist. I don't know how
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: I really say it.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: It's like Bakerville, yeah, which is probably not how you
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: You just need a box shock, You're right, justruck.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: Anyway, y'all, I'm gonna rent a box struck. I'm gonna
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: come get you and then come get you and then
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: because it makes sense to go up to Ohio and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: then down to it. Just that's how it works, so
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: you know, all right. So Lend was the key witness
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: for the prosecution against Somni and Surrey Dow and was
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: prepared to testify. Now, obviously the case was moving slowly
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: due to out bursts and mental evaluations. In on January sixteenth,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, almost three months ago, the prosecutor pleaded
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: with the judge to push the case toward trial due
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: to Lynd's age. He was eighty two now and his
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: memory was fading, which really is sad to me.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's super sad. So you guys buckle up, okay.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: The very next day, January seventeenth, Lynd was approached outside
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: of his home in broad daylight by a man dressed
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: in all black. Witnesses said that the man stabbed Lind
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: multiple times in the chest and ran off, only to
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: return and slit his throat. The owner of an auto
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: body shop in the neighborhood described the attack quote the man,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: mister Curtis, got out of his car and the attacker
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: put his arm around him, and the attacker began stabbing him.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: Some of the guys came and tried to help, but
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: the attacker came back and continued to stab him, and
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: then he cut his throat. It was very ugly for
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: all of us that work in this area what happened
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: to this man, because he was a good neighbor. That
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: is a crime scene photo, you guys.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: So that is the crime scene, and it's I mean,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: obviously it's very sad that this happened. You can see
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: his hat that we've been loving on this whole episode
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: on the street there and.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: All those blood stains on the because I think that's
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: his car probably right there, that rav or what because
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: it looks like blood outside of his door. Unfortunately, Oh oh,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: he was so angry. Mmmm. So okay. So the man
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: ended up escaping from the crime scene, and sadly this
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: time karls Lin succumb to his injuries and died. Oh
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: spreaks my heart so much. You know, all this violence
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: that was done to this poor man, It's just it's disgusting.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: It's so disgusting. And there is a ramp that I
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: was going to go into tonight based off some of
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: the comments I've seen made during the research of this case,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna save it for our future trial episode.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: If you all like my ranson, I will let you
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: know that this is the biggest one I have, and
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: I kind of give you a preview and my closing thoughts,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: so we'll say that for there. But ma'n, what a
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: frickin' I was dating.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's this is a man who, against his
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: own better judgment, tried to help this group of people,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: and this is how he was repaid and it's disgusting,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: But as far as his murder went, because the people
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: we know are all accounted for other than the people
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: who have disappeared. So one week later, on January twenty fourth,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Vallejo police officers arrested Maximilian Bentley Snyder
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: and he read in California for the murder of Curtis
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Lynde Bow. In the criminal complaint filed against Snyder, it
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: said that the defendant intentionally killed for the purpose of
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: preventing his lens testimony and a criminal proceeding, or the
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: victim was a witness to a crime, and the defendant
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: intentionally killed him in retaliation for his testimony and a
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: criminal proceeding, and did so by means of lying in wait.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: Coward, loser, riff, braff street, ratt. I guess I can
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: buy that he's all of it.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: Every single thing fires me out, stupid fucking face.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: So an episode allegedly an episode one. I mean, we
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: have witnesses, but legedly in episode one of our coverage
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: on the Zizians, we did reveal a few interesting facts
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  Speaker 1: about Snyder. But let's do a quick recap and deeper
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  Speaker 1: dive into who Maximilian Bentley Snyder really is.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do and say we did.
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  Speaker 3: Next a million bit a Snyder.
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  Speaker 2: He's just missing the third at the end of it,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: like fuckface.
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  Speaker 1: So. He is currently twenty two years old and is
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  Speaker 1: from Kirkland, Washington. Like many of her Zizians that we
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: have already discussed, his father was a skilled computer programmer
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  Speaker 1: who worked for Microsoft. He too, attended the prestigious Lakeside
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  Speaker 1: Private School, as other Zizian member Milo aka Teresa Youngblood
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  Speaker 1: from the Vermont.
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  Speaker 3: Border Patrol shooting remember that. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: According to his twenty twenty yearbook, Snyder was voted most
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  Speaker 1: likely to already be a spy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, clearly he failed at that because the first
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  Speaker 3: rule of being a spy is don't get caught.
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  Speaker 2: And here we are.
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  Speaker 1: So but before we continue, I'd love for everybody do
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: please drop your superlatives in the chat. Mine was most
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  Speaker 1: likely to be making a mash right now, not the
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  Speaker 1: age me or anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I just think side note I didn't write this down,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: but I think for our next members only, I think
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Kappain should host the mash session for us.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, how fun would that be.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, I'll dare you volunteer me for something live.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to change it to like bash for
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: box truck or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, all right, so you guys becoming members right
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: now because April eighteenth, we have members only at nine
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: o'clock and you can come play a masterless anyway. Fun
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  Speaker 3: fact about the superlatives, this is a very true story.
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  Speaker 3: I got second in most pessimistic.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Pessimist.
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  Speaker 3: No, I got second. The same girl beat me out
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: in all right, same girl.
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  Speaker 2: Beat me out the whole time. She was just like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna win this. There's no way I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: win this.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was also voted second most unlikely to
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: attend our high school reunion, which they definitely got right.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: My ass hasn't been there and I'm not going there,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: so I think I mean, basically, like most pessimistic was
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: basically being like the biggest bitch in the plays. But
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: you know that's what happens when you go to a
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  Speaker 3: small town in rural Ohio and they don't you don't
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: fit in with them and call them out. They're bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever I mean, you're not skippity like the rest
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 3: No, not quiet.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty exciting, but you're not. I mean, reunions are not.
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  Speaker 1: You're not messing anything from my personal experience.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I graduated you guys with like one hundred
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: and twenty people in my class. Like we went to
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: school from like elementary school to like high school together, Like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care to really boring.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: Oh it was because by like third grade, everybody knew
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: everything about like nothing about you could change as a person.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: So it was so fine.
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  Speaker 2: The military braty's like, hell no, I think not where
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: did everything go?
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  Speaker 3: I would just like to say, I'm firing Amy right now.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. She's still higher, but we should. I'm
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: gonna get you. Get you girls. I could put you
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  Speaker 3: on stage right now.
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  Speaker 1: Just most likely to mess me up on So to
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  Speaker 1: get back to it. His former classmates have described him
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: as someone who didn't have a lot of friend friends
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  Speaker 1: and liked to be controversial in class. One person is
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: quoted saying I tried to be his friend, but he
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: had quite high standards of others around him. He had
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: very strong beliefs about what it was moral and what wasn't,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: what was good, who was good?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Boy sounds like some people we.
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  Speaker 2: Know, right, you know, back to the whole, like most
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: likely to be a spy thing like of course he
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: was given that, but it was like, it's not a superlative,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: it's like a warning label, like I bet he wore
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: sunglasses inside, referred to his locker as a dead drop,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: and then tried to waterboard the principal during modern model
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  Speaker 2: un mostly because he was in his method acting face
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  Speaker 2: of no relation. I was. I was most school spirited
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: to nobody surprised. According to BuzzFeed though, and by that
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: I mean chat GPT, I'd get most likely to casually
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  Speaker 2: ruin someone with a well timed roast and a wineglass
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  Speaker 2: in hand, because I guess from what they say, I've
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: got receipts, the sass, and the delivery to leave the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: group chat shook for days. I probably used the hypeman
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: chat GPT, which is not a thing, but it would
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: be great if it was.
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  Speaker 3: Look, did you pay off put in there?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Who did I pay off? I don't know. Probably the
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: same person paid off to put in the note.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: Probably right off. I'm just kidding. Can we talk about
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: when that first picture is a little creepy because the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: girl's face is like gone, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so did you do that?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Full disclosure? No, I blurred I blurred faces because there
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: are actual shoulder and their children and these photos.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that, but okay.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: So, not only did Maximilian Bentley Snyder have very strong
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: beliefs about what was moral, he also had strong beliefs
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: about what was coral. Because here he is in the
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: aforementioned pictures, singing a piece he composed with his school
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  Speaker 1: choir and playing a wind god in the Seattle Youth Opera.
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  Speaker 1: And before that, he wrote and published a book at
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: the age of eleven that's uh, not really important to
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: our plot development, but I found it interesting, and I
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: bet jay T does too, because I think we're both
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: theater nerds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah uh huh so, I mean, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: This is where I was trying to give people the
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: grace and see calm ground. But we'll get there.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get there.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I slited old NaN's throat allegedly. Allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think that is interesting because like, I
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: didn't accomplish shit at eleven years old. I except for
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe writing a love letter does Zach Canson.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: She obviously didn't read. But you know he's lost. Really, so.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: That age gap, the age gap is so real because
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: for me it was punk cusack.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: Even that much older, like our age difference isn't even
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: like that much. But it does go to show you
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: that it does matter. I think that's pretty.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: I was a fan, but that's not the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I thought those were interesting facts that
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: Captin found that I had not seen.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Really anyway, for sure, I don't appreciate the fact that
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: he enjoys art is all one word on the back
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  Speaker 2: of that. Probably well listen, even eleven year olds need
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: proof readers. Okay, not everybody wins a trophy Max, So yeah,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: good point. After graduating from Lakeside, Snyder attended the University
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: of Oxford because, of course, to study computer science and philosophy.
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  Speaker 3: O faking deal.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's big the oldest English speaking school.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what it is. It is enough of a
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: big deal to just piss me off. Just yeah, piss
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: me off so much. The last time, yeah, any of
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: his classmates heard from him was in the summer of
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Now, young Blood graduated from Lakeside.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: You remember you remember, like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from Lakeside in twenty twenty two, and shortly after,
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  Speaker 2: they told a friend that they had connected with Snyder
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: after he reached out to them over Instagram. Oh how
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: lovely Instagram install love Okay, anyways, okay, uh, young what
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: wrote quote? He found me on Instagram and we've been talking.
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  Speaker 6: It's very nice, all right, was like, really, girl, really,
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure it was very nice.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: You know, it's very nice, like a hot dog and
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: a ball game that you don't that's not how you
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: describe things, all right. Anyways, all right, we know that
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: just to Gwen, reach out to us, please, we know that.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Just in a few months before Lindsey murder in November
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, Snyder and young Blood applied for
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: a marriage like Lisons in King County, Washington. Whether they
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: followed through with the marriage, we do not know. No, no, no, right.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Snyder's mother lives in Germany and had lost contact with
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: him before Lynn's murder, and she had asked the police
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: to do a welfare check on him at a condo
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: that she owns in the Seattle area, because of course
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: she does. But he was not there, as he had
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: already been arrested in California. Boo, look like walking in
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: like he's the Johnny Depp of criminals.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: Fucking catch that guy in?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's be honest, it was nice.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: Well, how do you guys, Uh, do you guys think
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: that next million Bitley Snyder handled jail like a normal
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: freaking person. Do you guys think that? No, none of
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: us think that, because why would that happen here? So
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: from jail? Okay's ridiculous. Snyder agreed to an interview with
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: the local news s fist. I know it's San Francisco
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: is something. I don't know what it's supposed to mean,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: but I really think they should have rethought this name
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: for their website, which.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: Is c S I s T. It sounds like a
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: publication Jody Arius would have absolutely created. Yeah, just fisting anyway,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. No, no, one more time.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: No, I don't okay, I don't think so Okay, Terry's
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: been fire tomorrow like you're fired.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: I love how Terry is the one who's gonna I
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: must be just like the loose screw. I mean, I know,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: but let's be honest.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest here. You're I would laugh. If you
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: were like, Tara, you're fired, I would laugh.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, ah, because.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: I think you're both very nice.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, captain, thank you. She doesn't want one
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: of us to get fired anyway. Okay, So he agrees
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: to an interview with this news agency right where he
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: proceeded to dictate a fifteen hundred word statement slash open
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: letter to our favorite fire Bending dom and Harry Potter
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: fanfic Ryder Elizer You Djowski. You guys all remember him
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: from the previous episode. He's the founder of all this bullshit,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: including Mary anyway. So unfortunately, though, we don't have time
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: to read this bullshit to you all, but you should
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: know that it is very ridiculous.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: Don't listen, don't worry. Somebody, probably me, will record it
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: for the members. Oh oh, guys, become a member please,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: I will. I will get my best wig on for
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: you you.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Oh I love that fire Bending circle thing. Okay, sorry
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: you guys right, I did take some pieces from this letter.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: So he did not want to talk about his alleged crimes.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: Good for him for probably listening to a lawyer who
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: was like, don't say shit, okay, or he didn't want
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: to talk about his relationship to any of the Zizzian's Okay.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, he starts his letter off
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: with the following quote. First, I am not one of
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: Zizzu's friends, and neither she nor her friends endorse me
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: or my words, so far as I know, I speak
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: only for myself as myself for the sake of everyone.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: This I swear on my laws. With that out of
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: the way, Eliza, you need to have a crisis of
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: faith about whether animals or people. It is critical to
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: say the world.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: This, this, this is what he used the opportunity for.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: Even the two rabbits behind the desk with headsets are like, well, Jim,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: that was a waste. Let's see what he got playing knicks. Yeah,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: that was a bold move, Cotton.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: It's just seriously, why why the whole letter is basically
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: dedicated to Yakowski. Okay, So he goes on. He goes
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: on to tell Yakowski that he Snyder is the best
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen D and D yes, dungeons and freaking dragons
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: you guys optimizer in the world and very likely came
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: up with over half of the known tech for it.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: That as a DND player, I think not.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: Weird flex bro. So he proceeds to vehemently enc ridge
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: Kowski to stop consuming animals and animal products. He even
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: offered part of his trust find quote he gets it
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: to make a bet that he could change yr Kowski's mind.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: He said that half of it would probably be for
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: legal fees their remain I don't but the remaining hundred
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 3: k could go to Yudkowski.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Wait, bro, whoa whoa hold on? Half of it's gonna
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: go to legal fees the other had so his his
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: trust is two hundred grand. Yes, I fucking hate these people.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: Oh I hate much?
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: Are they? Is this real?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: It's real, real live So okay for a second, okay, One,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: you are on trial for first degree murder. Okay, so
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: maybe you should be focusing on that right now instead
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: of fucking talking Toykowski who doesn't give a shit. And
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: two spoiler alert, Uh, your legal fees are going to
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: be a fuck ton more than one hundred thousand dollars
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: for first degree murder charges. So I don't want to
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: tell you all.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: These Okay, it's definitely going to be on to just
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: like you know, you're he's going to be given a
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: lawyer because the lawyer is gonna end up.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: These people are These people know a lot of things,
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: but I have yet to single see a single one
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: who understands the fucking law. Like, not a single one.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: These people are the definition of like book smart, not
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: street smart, certainly not emotionally intelligent.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: But they were making decisions for all a mankind to
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: save the world. You guys, totally qualified.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yep, I'll leave it well.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: I have some serious questions about using veganism to justify murder.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's how does that work?
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: Rationalists? It says as fist I know. See, I told
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: you guys, it's said. It says it. Okay, like.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a call sign. No no, no,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: that's the actual title of the publication.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: I quit, Prinsco.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: You all can have the rest of this night. I'm done.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: No no, so I'll say. I can't wait for more
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: information to come about about his case, specifically Snyder's, because one,
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: how did he end up in Lejo He was supposed
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: to be in Seattle, Washington. That's quite a drive. Why
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: did he go after Lynde? Okay? One, he has no
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: earlier ties to the group in Valletjope that I could find,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: like pre twenty twenty five. Never saw him living in
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: San Francisco with Ziz and all that or anything, right,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: no ties to him to this location. And he can
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: say that he's not friends with Ziz and all of
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: her compadres all he wants. But my spidey senses are
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: telling me that she is probably behind this in some way,
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: shape or form. That's just my opinion though.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: Soly, I mean, we know he applied for a marriage
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: license with young but who is and with Ziz? So
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like she pulled him in, could
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: be on behalf of Ziz and say, I mean honestly
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: from looking at uh Surrey's blog. Surrey reposted Soomny for
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: months before talking about Ziz. I think we've gotten to
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: a domino effect of these members pulling in other people.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily Zizz.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, that's that's a
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 3: very good logic point. Like let's say hypothetesis are hypotheticals here, right,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 3: Zizz is in charge. Young Blood is more of a
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: follower than Sizz than Snyder is right, Ziz wants something
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: done about Lynn, so her, Bessie, Somni and Surrey. For
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: some reason, she thinks, oh, killing this guy will get
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: him off on the charges. Was just not how that fucking works. Z,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: You're fucking genius. That means nothing, but like I can
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: see it would be smart. You want somebody to dispose
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: of this witness who isn't in that inner circle of people,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 3: so I could see. I could see your point, uh
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 3: there that it could have been through young blood and
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: so on. It's very peculiar. I can't. I need to
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: know all the court details, is all I'm saying.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: And you all really hope that the reporter tells us
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: everything we need to know.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 3: Me too, Me too. I need some new besties. I
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: guess you're gonna be email and those people all the time.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm gonna make Amy do it.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: We just need to send them an email and get
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: them on.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: She does all the things I don't like like Amy do.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: That's for great. Thanks. Anyway, where we're.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Waiting, we are, we're gonna wrap things up. We would
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: like to end this episode by remembering Curtis Lynde, who
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: by all accounts, was an actual, real good person.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: Real not this is good good bullshit, Yeah, like a
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: real person like actions.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: Lynn's death was met with sorrow and outrage from the community.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: A GoFundMe campaign was established to assist his family with
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: funeral services and to honor memory. His family had these
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: words to say. His constant resilience and determination to live
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: his life to the fullest was second to none. He
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: was a man who, no matter how many times he
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: was knocked down, always got back up and continued to
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: try and see the positive in life facts. No matter
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: his trials or tribulations, he saw beauty in the world
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: and remained positive. He was generous with what he had
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: to help a friend or a stranger in need. He
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: actively participated in cleaning his local neighborhood in Beachfront, taking
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: pride in doing his part to better his local community.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: In Ballejoe, Kurt found joy and interesting conversations with anyone
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: who came across. He was the type of man who
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: could easily engage in a conversation with a complete stranger
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: and leave with a new friend. Kurt had a deep
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: love of the ocean and lived many years on boats
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: and ships he refurbished himself. Kurt loved life and everything
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: it had to offer.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 3: Oh so, I mean, how true is that after everything
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: we've learned he just went through. Yeah, like I mean, oh.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: So so. Curtis Lynde was also given an eight bell
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: saloop by Captain JM, who knew Kurt from back when
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: Kurt lived on Peer twenty eight. Here's some background on
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: the whole eight bell for vision. So the phrase eight
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: bells in a maritime context is a traditional way of
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: marking time aboard a ship. It is part of the
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: ship's bell timekeeping system, which divides a twenty four hour
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: day in a six four hour watches. First off, you
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: gave me a paragraph of boat math, which is like
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: handling handing a squirrel of Rubik's Cuban. I mean, for
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: a captain's passing. No, you're laughing because it's true. Uh.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: For a captain's passing. Eight bells is a naval tradition
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: and it signifies the end of their watch metaphorically, meaning
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: that they have completed their final duty. It is often
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: used in obituaries, funeral services, and memories for deceased sailors
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: and officers, particularly captains. When used for a captain's passing,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: it serves as a solemn tribute which recognizes their service
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: at sea. Now Curtis Land's legacy is it's remembered not
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: just as a victim of violence, but as a symbol
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: of resilience, kindness, and a commitment to doing what was right.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: I found that on his the GoFundMe that his family
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: had put together for him to help bury him and
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: take care of them, And as I was transferring it
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 3: over into our notes, I cried a little bit because
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's beautiful. I didn't know that was
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: a thing, a tradition, and I thought that was really beautiful.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: We don't really have those kind of things here in Ohio,
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 3: we don't, you know. And I just thought that was
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: really really beautiful of them to do, because he had
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: done it for a very long time. And you know, like,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: this is just so so sad, you guys. And my
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: thoughts are with his family because I can't imagine what
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: the last several years of their life has been like.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: And to lose your father or your grandfather in such
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: a way I I don't even know.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not just his family, but also his friends, because
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: he truly seems like the kind of person who made
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: friends wherever he went and took care of other people
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: as best as he could. Yeah, that's that's kind of
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: what like the best we can try to be as
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: just like a normal human person, right.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these fucking Cizians were so concerned about
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: being whether or not they were good people. Like this
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: was a guy who wasn't concerned about that. He just
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: did good things because that's what good people fucking do
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: is they're not trying to do calculations on what is
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: good and what's not good. That's not how that works.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: You wanted to save the world, but this is one
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: of those people who should have stayed in it.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, certainly you're right.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, like surviving and not is not a formula.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: It's not a formula. Sorry.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: And their math didn't check out? Okay, is all I'm
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: saying is math didn't check out? Did it?
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: She's like mine, don't do it?
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my, I can't tell I am biased and she
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: is insufferable, but I've done my research. I'm allowed to
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 3: have that freaking opinion anyway.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: When Gwenn contacts us, girl.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 3: I like you, Okay, I don't have really anything bad
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 3: to see you. I may have leapto you a few
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: times because your ideas are silly, but I have silly
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: ideas too. I think we have a lot.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: More in common emergency supply top of the list. That's all.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: That's true. But we wouldn't have been think about it
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: like so yeah, why not. I've thought about it a
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: lot anyway. So that puts us at the end of
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 3: tonight's show. So let's do a little quick update on
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: our cast list because a lot went down in this episode.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's so many things happen. Okay, so
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: let's do a quick cast update, okay, on our handy
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: dandy little graphic here. So, oh, this is not our
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 3: main one. Where's our big main one? There we go,
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: there it is, thank you, Amy, So we have maya
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: excuse me, Pasac and Jay Flettershey Winniford, who both passed
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: away by suicide a few episodes ago. Emma Burhanian is
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 3: now in black and white after dying in the first
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: attack on Curtis. Lynn Somny aka Alexander Leatham and Surrey
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 3: dale A ka Testa Burns are both incarcerated and getting
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: ready to go to trial for the attended murder of
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: Curtis lind and the death of Emma Borian. Curtis lind
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: was murdered, and sadly now he is in black and
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 3: white as well. Maximilian Snyder is behind bars for his
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: murder alleged murder of Curtis. Linn and Ziz and Gwen
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: have fucked off to who knows where. Love those question
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: marks she added, by the way, Cavin, little dust.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: Question marks in the wind, little Kansas reference.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 3: I like it, right, I love it? So you know,
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 3: this episode really did a number on our cast visual
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: here and you, guys, I hate to say this, but
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: this story is not over by a long shot. So
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: this is where where we are.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: Can I just say this is the only chart that
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: I appreciate?
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: Thank you?
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: Is it useful? I think so?
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: Oh it's useful, and you don't oversell it. That's what
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: I really like. You don't oversell it. It is original.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: It is Oh. On that note, you guys, let's go
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: with our closing thoughts for this evening, shall we, Cavin?
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: Why don't you?
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: In closing and the words of the great Eli's or
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yudowski praise be Hey, Draco, you know what I bet
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: is even better for becoming friends and exchanging secrets committing murder.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: That's an actual line from miss Harry Potter fanfic. Yeah,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: you guys to read it. We'll do it.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: We'll totally do it. We were talking about it before
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 3: the show of like, when can we schedule this?
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe once we hit a certain membership number then we could.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: We should do it. Do that.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 3: You guys need to know when it Miss I'm sure
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: I haven't even read it yet. I totally want to
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: get into it not knowing anything.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: There's eugenics and Harry Potter.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: Now I think I mean it was Ron. It was Ron.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: He doesn't like spiders.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: This fucking gen jer is. You can't trust them. I'm
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 3: just kidding, y'all. I have red hair. Okay, you can't
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: really tell on.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: Here because she's hidding it because she doesn't like ginger.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: If I'm in the sunlight, it is like red. Okay,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: it is. You see it, you've seen it in person.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: It's true. Sorry, all right. So for my closing thoughts,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: you guys, I know some of you have been waiting
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 3: all night for this. I'm gonna give you a little taste. Okay. So,
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 3: as I've already said earlier, this chapter of the story
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 3: infuriates me. Okay, the senseless brutality that happened to this
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: poor elderly man, not once, but twice twice. And for
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: what Because some lazy, good for nothing assholes took advantage
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: of an old man. We tried to hold them legally
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: accountable for their actions. And I know the quote self
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: defense bullshit argument that it's floating amongst the supporters of
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 3: these people, which by the way, is fucking gross, And
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: shame on all of them for spreading the bullshit that
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: they're spreading. And don't worry, I'll catch you all up.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: Won't be the recap of this bullshit, but soon enough
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: the trials happen, the truth of what happened will come
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: out in court, and I plan on going through each
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: and every single little detail to a disassembol all of
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: their bullshit lies they've been spewing. In regards to Curtis Lynd,
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: you know you're full of shit. I know you're full
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: of shit. So let's let's cut the ship, shall we, Octavia.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: And that's that's all I really have to say about that.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: For now. I will pick up all of this. I
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: promise you I will reveal all as soon as this
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: trial is over.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say first that's not really true. Second,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: because you definitely have more to say.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I have so much to say, you guys, I
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 3: have so much, so much to say.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: A Second, we need a fund not just to go
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: to the trial, but also for a board and string
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: for Lama.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I have done. I have done my
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 3: dug diligence researching this case of my my jiu jitsu
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: researching this case. My opinions are my own that I've
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: come to reading all the information and the facts that
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: are laid before me, not some mystical fucking bullshit that
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: some people want to make up because they can't come
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 3: to terms with the fact that their friends are fucking assholes. Sorry,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: your friends are assholes. I wanted to like your friends,
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: I really did. The more I learned about them, the
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: more fucking assholes they are.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I never did. I'm just gonna throw that
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: out there, and I never wanted to learn more. Nope, Nope.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: Once you said rationalism, I was out.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: Oh they get me so fired up. That's why I'm
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: saving it for the next time. I'm saving it because
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 3: they're disgusting.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: So honestly, after everything we've covered, I need another drink
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: in an app and possibly support raccoon, preferably one that
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't screams. This is in the walls every time the
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: age fave kicks on. We started with boat math well,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: already offensive in and of itself, and somehow we ended
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: up on an artisanal nightmare of box truck, samurai swords,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: fake deats, and murdered by cosplay. If I pitched this
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: as a Netflix series, they tell me to tone it
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: down because no one believe it too bad. Reality didn't
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: get the note. But in all seriousness, like, if there
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: is such a thing left in this story, Curtis Lynde
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: deserves so much better. So he opened his home to
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: a group of folks who said that they needed help
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: and did return. He got chaos, lawsuits, cult cause play,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: and attempted murder via ninja tactics. I mean the man
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: he survived being stabbed over fifty times with the samurai
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: sword and other things at the age of eighty, Like
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: he was the definition of a badass, and yet the
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: madness didn't end until he was killed in broad daylight.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: We're simply being brave enough to speak the truth, So
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: please pour one out, preferably wine, but whatever you want
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: pour one out for Captain, Captain, Captain wind.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: It took me. I didn't want to make that joke
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: the entire show, but like, come on, his name is captain.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: I know you saw me. You saw me kind of
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: weave around it. But he was Captain that he wouldn't mind.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But you know. Also, please check
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: your yard for any suspiciously philosophical raccoons before bed. You
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: never know, you never know.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: Those tuskie raccoons are everywhere. Well, you guys, I'm sure
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: you all must be like, surely this is the end
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: of the story, right, Tara, Well if it is far.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: From perfect perfect, and things.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: Only continue to go downhill, Okay, they didn't stop here.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 3: Spoiler alert. If you thought tonight's story had twists and turns,
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: well we're gonna get into it because next week we
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 3: will be doing a deep dive into Jamie aka Michelle
• 2:20:14
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• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: rita'sagek you guys do not want to miss this. Okay,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: this is I'm just gonna give you a little heads
• 2:20:26
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• 2:20:32
  Speaker 3: and a half after the murder of curtis Land. So
• 2:20:36
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• 2:20:39
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• 2:21:20
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• 2:21:26
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• 2:21:56
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• 2:21:57
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• 2:22:00
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• 2:22:03
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• 2:22:28
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• 2:22:32
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• 2:22:35
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• 2:22:36
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• 2:22:42
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• 2:22:46
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• 2:22:49
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• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: You guys, and if I can just requick like the
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 3: case of Joey Lebute. If you're not familiar, I would
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 3: consider it like because this is where I live. It's
• 2:23:00
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• 2:23:03
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• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: somebody who lives in the area. I just I have
• 2:23:12
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• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: investigating his very mysterious his death that was declared a homicide. Okay, anyway,
• 2:23:23
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• 2:23:25
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• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just j D and Terry and me and our
• 2:23:34
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• 2:23:37
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• 2:23:42
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• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: That's okay. Listen, you know you've heard the song get
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  Speaker 2: jiggy with it. We're gonna get skippity with it. You
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  Speaker 2: can find your tickets, d man, I'm gonna write that
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  Speaker 2: parody now your tickets in this videos description. Please please
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: If you haven't any suggestions for potential show locations, you
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  Speaker 2: can email them Tara at tcbtmedia dot com and just
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  Speaker 2: a specific Gwen. If you have any potential show locations
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  Speaker 3: We'll play at a box truck community. Okay, we are
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  Speaker 3: not above box trucks. I don't know what you think
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  Speaker 3: of us. We're not above doing box trucks. Just saying,
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  Speaker 3: but before we go, it looks like ap has something
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  Speaker 3: and she put together to play before we sign off
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  Speaker 3: for our memory of curtis Land. So oh, that's tough.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting not to be like, so sad. Hmm,
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  Speaker 3: that is so sad. Well, tonight, we remember you, curtis Land,
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  Speaker 3: and thank you for being making the world a better
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  Speaker 3: please to some degree, even if some people don't appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: What can you do, Kevin? Do you want to sign
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  Speaker 3: us off for tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Terry, we love you, Come back soon next week, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: But to everyone else, thanks for watching, keep it, stay sharp,
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  Speaker 1: make good decisions, and to quote someone we all love
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  Speaker 1: watch for Bears.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. I love that so much. Oh with that,
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  Speaker 3: I want to say thank you all for being here
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  Speaker 3: tonight and dealing with her our crazy ransom and escapades
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  Speaker 3: around here. I want to thank you all for being
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  Speaker 3: here tonight and we really appreciate it. Until next time,
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  Speaker 3: go forth and these amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now it's my turn. Thanks for tuning in. Everybody,
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  Speaker 2: please please take care of yourselves, your friends, your family,
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 2: and your community to not let anybody dull that sparkle
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  Speaker 2: and shine on, shine on. I'm going with this. It's
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: a diamond cutter, so from Diamond Dallas page. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's not as good as it gets. So shine on, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: Shine on you crazy diamonds. We will see you next Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Shirks blewis My head is
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