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#182 – Did Crossroads age well? (w/ Melissa Leavenworth · Did That Age Well?

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All right, hi everybody. Welcome to another episode of
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IDK. Oh my gosh.
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Today we're going to go on. What a journey across.
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We're at a crossroads, if you will.
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Speak about cross country. Speak about cross country, my my
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girls, gays and theys. I am so thrilled to welcome back
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my friend, returning guest of the pod, Melissa Leavenworth.
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Thank you so much. Thank you for being here.
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Happy to be here. Thank you for choosing this
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movie. Thank you for choosing
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Crossroads. God, did I need to watch this
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movie today. I am just delighted that I got
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to watch this, so thank you for that and thank you for being
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here. What is going on with you?
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OK, so hi, Winnie. I'm there's a lot going on.
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I'm gonna where? Do you wanna begin?
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Where? Do you wanna begin?
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Where do you wanna begin? You're training.
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You're running. Training.
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I'm training so hard. I'm training, OK, I am training
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for 1/2 marathon in Canyon Lands, Utah.
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So cool, which I love. I love Canyon Lands and I'm
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going to use that as an opportunity to run, raise money
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for Project ICU, which helps women with closing costs.
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And it's like a grant program where you can get up to $10,000
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to help you facilitate owning your home.
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And I was able to benefit from that.
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So I just want to kind of give back and do my part.
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Yes, it's very cool. And the way that it happened was
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so like fortuitous. I just started running at Run
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Club and made some very nice new friends.
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And then when I was visiting Moab, I started to get the ads
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cause Instagram is listening. Oh yeah, she's listening.
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And look, they don't always hit the targeted ads, but this one I
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was like, I will go run 13 miles in the Canyonland.
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Absolutely. So after you look it up, it's
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like people use that to to raise money all the time.
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And I'm like, I never run. People aren't used to me
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running, so they'll give me a little bit of money to run.
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So where do I see that? They have.
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I have never asked them for this before and so they won't see it
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coming. They'll be so shocked that
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they'll have to say. Yes.
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I'm also not like historically, historically athletic.
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So I think it's very OK. Like for example when I was a
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child and we would all race down the hill recess, I would
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purposely trip and fall because I just like couldn't stand to
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lose anymore so I wasn't my. God you literally took yourself
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out of the game. Yeah, but then one time a kid
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was like, you did that on purpose.
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And I was like, no, I didn't, no, no.
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So I'm running for real now. She's not only a runner, she's a
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former actress, you guys, child star, she said.
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Oh, I'm fainting. Wow.
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I cannot believe that is so. Like of all the awful things
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that kids do, calling out another kid for lying out of
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survival? Horrible.
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If that person is listening, I am not wishing you well.
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Me neither. And look at you now.
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I'm a freaking athlete. You're an athlete and you're
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raising money for women. To own their house, to own
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their. Houses.
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That's incredible. We love to see it and you're
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going on a kind of a cross country journey of your own.
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Soon you're moving. I'm moving.
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No, it's not too late to change your mind, just so you know.
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I think it is. I think my mind might have
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already been chosen before I visited.
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OK. But yeah, I'm moving to San
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Francisco because it's just beautiful and there's a lot of
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opportunity there right now. So it works out.
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And I'm excited for the next big thing 'cause I'm from Colorado.
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So it's like, totally gotta get out of here.
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It's time to do something different, Yes, as these girls
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will show us, because you're not a girl, but not yet a woman, and
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you're gonna go to San Francisco.
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Actually, I'm not 18. I've been a woman for several
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years. OK, fine, so maybe our lives are
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not exactly like crossroads, but they it doesn't it feel like
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anytime you're on a new journey that you're kind of like with
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your girls and some random guy who movie would have been way
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better without him. Yes.
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Also, you're so good at this. Oh my God.
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Thank you. You're weaving it in and you're
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just like, I can't so natural I. Can't help it.
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I just can't help it. OK?
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What makes you want to decide to talk about Crossroads?
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You know, it is just one of those treasures in my life.
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Yes, I think I saw it for the first time when I was six years
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old. Yeah.
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And then, oh, I watched it again last year.
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And when When you have about 20-4 years under your belt
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between seeing Crossroads for the first time and the second
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time, you see the red flags. Oh yeah.
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And you know, did it age well? Not particularly.
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Not particularly. Here's why.
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This is the this is my thesis today.
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In this essay, I will. In this essay, I will.
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So basically, like what really is so tragic to me about this
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film, about Crossroads is that it was at a time in the early
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2000s when we still had so much hope for young pop stars,
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especially Miss Britney Spears. When we saw this moment of
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opportunity in spite of all of the toxic, horrible misogyny
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that was being just railed at her and other girls, but not yet
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women, not a girl, not girls, not yet women.
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In spite of all that, there was still so much hope for her, for
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her career, for her, literally like her coming of age.
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And then to see that hope at that time and now know, like how
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the story unfolds is so fucking tragic.
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And that's what happened to me. Made this movie.
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I'm like, God, this really this ages with like a real
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heartbreak. Yeah, on my part.
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Like watching her make this, like, film debut.
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I mean, like, the world's right in front of me.
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I can do anything. I can get away from my
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overprotective. Dad see it just it's just a
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stage. Girl.
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So that was really tough. I really bummed me out.
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I've been kind. Of when I watched it I didn't
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like think that hard on that context and now I'm super bummed
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out. I'm so sorry.
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And now listener or viewer, now you're bummed, Outlook.
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We never said it was going to be easy.
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But we are stronger than yesterday and absolutely.
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OK, the movie ends. Sorry to go straight to the end,
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but the movie ends, the credits roll and she's singing the song
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overprotected. My life has been so see, that's
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eerie protected. Yikes.
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That is eerie. It's like, it's like, yeah,
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spooky, spooky. There we there's the Halloween.
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It's spooky, Yuki. Halloween time.
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Yeah, Crossroads is basically perfect for Halloween time
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because it's spooky. Maybe I should just be Brittany
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for Halloween. Oh, I absolutely think you
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should. There's so many variations.
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Of course I was thinking about having a Brittany themed
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Brittany themed birthday party, but guess what?
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I've got another one next year so I can do it.
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Then you can take that idea. That would be like, well, my
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birthday just passes well. Well, you have another one
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coming up next year. You're right.
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Yeah, and happy late birthday. So sweet.
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Okay, so yeah, there was so much hope, and then it all comes
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crumbling. Should we bring it back to the
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beginning where they do the OK? So like basically it starts out
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and they are like 3 young girls and they're best friends and
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they like bury the time capsule, right?
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Yes, can I? Go ahead.
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Can I take us on a? Just take me on the.
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Tour OK, cannot stop using car related metaphors here, so we're
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taking a detour real quick when I saw this movie with my best
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friend Andrea. Shout out friend of the pod.
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She and I decided, you know what, we're going to make a time
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capsule and we did. And fortunately my mom, like,
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you know, it's not like if we're going to put, if we're going to
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buries in the backyard, it's not actually going to, you know, not
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decompose, right? So my mom like, you know,
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unearthed it all and like made photocopies of everything and
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God damn, that was so funny to look back on.
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And I just recommend everybody make a time capsule with your
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friends. If you're 10 years old and
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listening to this, you shouldn't be.
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But if you are, make a time capsule with your friends and
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just maybe you'll meet up on graduation night and go on the
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adventure of a lifetime. That's so fun.
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I know, right? I feel like my high school did a
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time capsule or something. I.
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Feel. Like I have a memory of I was
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getting to pick what goes in it. Or am I like confusing it with
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something I've seen? I don't know, That's called
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source amnesia, but. Oh my God.
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Wait, can we? Can we?
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Going back to the movie jump scare, Jamie, Jamie Lynn playing
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little Britney. She plays little Britney.
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Wow, that's heavy too. I know because you're growing up
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in the shadow of Britney and then becoming spiteful to
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Britney and the whole bit. And the teen pregnancy of it
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all, 'cause you know, Mimi, Oh my God.
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Girl, you're making some big connections I didn't even think
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about. And I watched it right when she
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got like, it was like Free Britney movement.
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Everyone was really like jazzed up on it.
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It was before Netflix bought the rights to Crossroads.
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So I have it on DVD because you could not find it anywhere
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online and I don't think it had all sung in enough by that to to
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extrapolate some of these things.
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Which is why I'm so glad we're here.
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Unpacking. Unpacking that suitcase.
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So, so I had forgotten that. By forgotten, I mean, I never
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realized because I was a child when I saw this and I did not
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know who Shonda Rhimes was. I did not know the impact she
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would have on my life. But Shonda Rhimes wrote the
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script. Basically, Brittany came up with
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the idea and Shonda Rhimes was like, I'm a professional, I got
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you. We're all yeah, yeah, pretty
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cool. And then the the director, her
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name is Tamara Davis and she's she did a a lot of music video
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directing. She has since done a lot of
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television directing, not a lot of feature films, but.
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But she's pretty impressive. She's got a pretty, pretty
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impressive filmography. I love that.
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Yeah, so anyway. The cast is also pretty stacked.
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Yeah. So, yeah, what insane they got.
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So Kim Cattrall, as I mentioned to you when we were walking in
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today, they got Kim Cattrall because they couldn't get
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Madonna, who is who they wanted to play Lucy, Britney Spears.
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And when I think a runner up to Madonna, that's definitely who I
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could go. I think Carl Samantha Wild.
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It is wild and it's that woman from Orange is the New Black is
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in there. I forget her name right now, my
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apologies. And then if you Saldana, yeah,
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she's totally listening. Zoe Saldana.
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Is she in the Marvel Movies Now? She's in the Marvel Movies Now.
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Yeah, she had blew up. Because when I was first, like
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when we first rewatched it, I was like, who's in this?
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Britney Spears, Britney Spears and Britney Spears?
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Like, in my mind as a child, I was just like triple Britney
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Spears. But they're real people.
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They are real people and they had really big careers.
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Except for The Who is the other girl 'cause the girl from Orange
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is the New Black isn't the main girl.
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Right. It's Zoe, Saldana and and then
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Britney. There's a third.
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Those are three. Those are three.
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Zoe Saldana, Britney Spears, and the woman whose name from Orange
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is the New Black that we're forgetting.
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But was she the third main girl? Yeah, she was the one that was
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pregnant, Mimi. And then there was the man.
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Dude, I really got some guy. This they, they got nominated
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for like best chemistry and of course they didn't win because
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there was none. Because there was none.
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Because he wasn't meant to be there.
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No, he was a older man who was like, why was he there?
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Literally why was he there? I just remember rewatching this
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being so mad that he was along for the ride 'cause he like
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throws a fucking fit and puts everyone in danger.
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I don't think 6 year old me definitely didn't pick up on it,
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but adult me was like these girls are in danger with this
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man, what are we doing? They're like, oh, I think he
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killed someone lol. He did not kill someone, but
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they were kind of just like, oh, you know.
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No biggie. No big.
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It's sort of like the casual way that they treat Brad Pitt's
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character and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when it's like he
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might have killed his wife, but who knows?
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It was a little bit like that. And of course, we learned later
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he's not dangerous, but he seemed dangerous in that moment
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when he was throwing a truly a tantrum because he.
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Yeah. I gotta, I gotta like look at my
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nose. Do you have any idea what it's
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like being around girls all the time?
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He's losing his mind because he's with girls all the time.
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But meanwhile he's been subjecting them to his boy
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music. This whole cross country trip.
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They tried to listen to *NSYNC for like 5 seconds.
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All it takes is them listening to Shania Twain's man.
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I feel like a woman to just snap him and say.
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No this. Man, all I have is the control
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of this car and listening to my stupid boy music.
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Do you know it's just I'm just around chicks all the time.
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There was an idea. We just want to sing and have a
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nice time. They're like, oh, sorry that we
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just wanted to have fun. Sorry that Britney's character
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is a gearhead and knows what's actually wrong with the car.
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You dumb little idiot. Why was he there?
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They didn't need a romantic subplot.
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This is a story about friendship.
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He did not need to be there. And I also feel like it just
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taught me a bad lesson. Yeah.
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Growing up, I did get in the car with a lot of stupid men that I
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would let take me places, unbeknownst to me.
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And it's like, what do you? This is what I like.
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I grew up learning. Yeah.
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To go across the country with men.
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Yeah. Who don't want me to play Shania
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Twain? And that's what's wrong with
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this country. I feel like this could have been
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called riding in cars with boys, or really riding in car with
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boy, if that name was not already going to be used in a
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different film. I.
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Don't know if we clarified that we're talking about crossroads
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from 2002 as well, not of the 1980s.
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I just assume people only know the one crossroads, but.
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Yeah, but if you're older than us, you might be thinking of the
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other one. That's obviously.
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That's obviously not the case. OK, so the development of this
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began in late 2000. OK, So in this essay I will.
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OK, so I need to just like I need to give some context around
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this. I know that we have just begun
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talking about the movie. We are currently at the time
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capsule, but let me just take us back to 911.
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OK, so so you know 911 it happens.
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The entire country is like we need trash gossip information.
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No bad news. I just need to see underskirt
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pictures of teen girls. These celebrities, I need to see
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their midriffs. I need to know who they're
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dating. I need to know who they're
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fucking. I need to know what drugs
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they're doing. I need to know how skinny they
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are. And this like this monster of
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publicity was like reborn. And it's crazy that like the
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development of this movie started before that era.
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And then it was like by the time it came out in 2002, we were so
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deep in that early aughts. Let me just say like pop girls,
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virgins and whores era, you know where they are really both at
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the same time and always losing. Isn't that the truth?
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Ain't that the truth? And Britney's character is a
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virgin who, for reasons unknown, Justin Long apparently has a
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chance with. That was, you know, in a movie
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that is not exactly, like, realistic.
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That was a moment where I could not suspend my disbelief.
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I said there is no way you're trying to convince me that
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Britney Spears is like, she's just like a pretty nerd who is
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like being coerced into sex by Justin Long, who thought he had
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a chance. And he's, he's so little.
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He's just. So little.
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He's just a tiny little thing. He's a little guy just doing his
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best. Tiny, tiny little guy.
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That was tough, but I didn't like, I didn't like that he had
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a list of reasons as to why she should sleep with him.
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Don't they all? Don't they all?
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But I did like that eventually it does show us.
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It's like, well, OK, the message is, yeah, begging is coercion,
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she decides. Actually, no, my heart's not in
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this. This isn't the way I want to go
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down. I don't want to do it with my
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dweevy lab partner. Good on her.
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Good on her. So then, I wish I had taken that
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lesson away from the whole thing.
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That whole thing, yeah, that begging is coercion.
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And that's not OK. They didn't tell us explicitly,
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but he was very like in that American Pie mindset where he's
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So then they go back to the time capsule as high school
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graduates. And Kit, that's her name, right?
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Kit The Zoe's held on his character.
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Pretty sure it is. Yes, it is.
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Let's get the notes. So Kit's wish was to be a bridal
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Barbie, Lucy's wish was to find her mom again, and Mimi wish for
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the world. She's a little key chain with a
21:24
globe on it. She wanted to travel the world.
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Now she's knocked up. Never travel again.
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She can never with a child. Did you know that you can?
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Did you know that your life is over when you have a baby?
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So you know how like, going through the airport is hard.
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Imagine having a baby trying to do that.
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It's tough. I could do that.
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I could, I could. I feel like I have had practice
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though. When my my cousins were little,
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I used to have to get ready to go visit dad so.
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So and you still lived life, but she but look, she's 18.
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She's like damn. She'll persist.
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We all do. She's the one that's like, I'm
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going to go to LA. They were like, you're pregnant,
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how are you going to do this audition for this recording
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studio? And she said, I'll wear
22:19
something slimming. And I thought that was so funny.
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I said, that's Shonda Rhimes. That's my girl writing.
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That was so good. OK, so then they like, look at a
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photo of themselves and they're like, OK, I guess we should go
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on this road trip. Let's go to LA.
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Kit is going to go visit her college fiance, who we already
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know is cheating on her because her friends were like, oh, I bet
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he's cheating on you. And she was like, he would
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never. So we know that he's cheating on
22:53
her and and Lucy, Britney's character, she's going to Tucson
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to meet her mom, Kim Cattrall. And Mimi is going to go to this
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audition, which by the end of the movie, it's actually not her
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audition at all. It's Lucy.
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She is literally a backup singer.
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But what really summed up this whole movie is when Britney
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walks up to the car and there's the guy there, and she goes,
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who's the guy? I said I know that's right.
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I also was like, OK, I just didn't find him particularly
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attractive either, so it was like so funny to like, put him
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in that role. I mean, if he's going to throw a
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fit in the middle of nowhere, he's going to be damn handsome.
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I know he was like just. He's just a man.
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He was. Just not that interesting to me.
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Yeah, yeah. So that's that.
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That don't impress me much. OK.
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So they they talk about how he might have killed somebody,
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whatever. Very.
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Casual. Whatever.
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Casually, they're talking about how he might, Yeah.
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I feel like I was very worried when I heard that and that was I
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was like, wait, is this a Miss a Murderer mystery?
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I forgot about this like. OK, wait, now I'm getting.
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I need to. This is insane.
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I watched this two day, but I've only got a couple brain cells
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left that we're working with. So when Bowling For Soup was
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playing at their graduation party, there was a guitarist who
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Zoe Saldana was like, oh, he's hot.
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And they were like, oh, I think he killed somebody.
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Was it the same guy or was it a different guy?
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Were they like? Was that?
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Were they trying to be like a cold bot?
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No, it was that was at the maybe I don't know.
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It doesn't matter there. It was more than once they
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brought up some guy being like he might have killed somebody.
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So that's too bad he didn't, but still, they weren't worried
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enough. So Lucy is sort of the one
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that's she gets really good grades.
25:14
She was the valedictorian. Her, her dad is very Aww
25:20
protective, you know, and she's like she's a virgin and
25:27
everyone's like, ha ha, you're a virgin.
25:30
And then Kit is like she's like the hot shit.
25:33
She's popular. She's got body image issues.
25:38
She's got a mom who's always telling her to lose weight.
25:40
And then there's Mimi who's like she grew up in the trailer park.
25:44
She's knocked up. She's got eyeliner for sure.
25:51
She's got eyeliner and she's using.
25:53
It really all-encompassing of the female experience.
25:56
Yes, these OK, these girls, as we learned throughout the film,
26:02
they all have like there's a little something for every every
26:06
girl on the surface, it's like, OK, like which one are you?
26:10
Like, are you a Lucy or a kid or a Mimi?
26:13
But it's more like which is your trauma?
26:15
Is your trauma like? Is your trauma like body
26:19
dysmorphia, being sexually assaulted, or being abandoned by
26:23
your mom? Couldn't get in all three.
26:27
Yeah, and a lot, I think, you know, it is not mutually
26:31
exclusive. What are you?
26:32
What are you? You know, that's a good
26:36
question. I don't really have like, I
26:39
mean, OK, I know that everybody has trauma.
26:41
Like, of course, I have trauma, but like, nothing really bad
26:45
enough happened to me to make me, like, as messed up as I am.
26:49
And sometimes I think it would be a lot easier if I could just
26:53
be like, well, yeah, like, you know, my mom can control.
26:56
That's me when I was three years old.
26:59
But I had my parents were very lovely, very supportive.
27:03
So yeah, I think I related to all.
27:05
I had a little trauma from each pool.
27:07
Oh yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
27:10
I mean, yeah. I mean, literally any, any girl,
27:15
really any person, but especially the girls who lived
27:19
in the early 2000s or were alive at any time, actually probably
27:26
can relate to Zoe Saldana. This like very thin woman being
27:30
like, yeah, my, I hate my body and my mom's always telling me
27:37
to lose weight, you know? So yeah, I feel like that's kind
27:41
of a, a really universal one. They're really speaking to all
27:45
the girls. Yeah, but that one, they were
27:46
like, let's think about what one woman experiences and divvy it
27:50
up into three prototypes. And they did.
27:56
It and they did it. And what a, what a goddamn
28:00
miracle that is. Because this, this movie is
28:03
about having fun. But they they go to a hotel room
28:07
and they literally say, what's the worst thing that ever
28:09
happened to you? And I've been like, that is
28:11
actual female friendship. You get into a room and you say,
28:15
so what's the worst thing that ever happened to you?
28:17
Let's. Trauma bond.
28:19
And they did they like they worked through some shit out on
28:23
the road and I loved it for them.
28:27
I thought that like, yes, we could call it trauma bonding or
28:32
we could say these women not. Girls, but not girls.
28:38
Not girls, but not quite women. They they had a history with
28:43
each other, you know, they've known each other since they were
28:45
little kids. And they were basically like,
28:46
let's catch up on whatever fucked up shit happened to you
28:50
in the past, you know, 10 to 15 years and let's talk about it.
28:57
Let's figure some things out. That's sweet, you know.
28:59
Do men do that on road? What do you?
29:03
What do they do on the road? Does that happen on road trips
29:06
with that, OK, now we've. Made speaking on behalf of men
29:10
can confirm that that does not happen on.
29:12
Road trips. If you think otherwise I would
29:14
love to hear about it though if you're a man who's that's your
29:17
now. You got you've gone Rd. trips
29:19
with your childhood friends and say what's the worst thing that
29:23
ever? Happened to you.
29:23
Hey guys, let's talk. Yeah, Could you get some good?
29:27
I'm just saying it works out well for these girls.
29:32
OK, so then we find out that the boy has trauma too though.
29:40
And here's the thing. It was sad, but I didn't care
29:44
because I was sort of like, this is about the girls and their
29:47
trauma and you're kind of you've inserted yourself on this trip
29:52
because he's just some guy that Mimi pregnant.
29:56
Mimi knows from the trailer part like she grew up with him and he
30:01
has a car. So she's like, he's coming on
30:03
the trip. That's it.
30:05
I've been Mimi. You brought some random guy who
30:08
did not need to be there on the. Trail so many times.
30:11
So many times, as I said, riding in cars with boys.
30:14
That is what they should have called it.
30:17
They should have. Drew Barrymore should have come
30:20
up with a different vault, but it shouldn't.
30:22
I would love a reboot. Yes, it didn't.
30:26
Seem like no I do. I do.
30:29
I do. I do want that.
30:30
Where Britney is the long lost mom in Italy.
30:34
Oh my God, that's but here's The thing is that like I think it
30:38
would be too. It would be too sad.
30:40
We might need some time in between, but I feel like there's
30:43
like potential to foreshadow a new life for Britney through
30:46
Crossroads reboot. All she needs is time, a moment
30:49
that is mine while she's in between.
30:52
How come as a 7 year old I related so hard?
30:54
Like I was like I am not a woman yet.
30:57
I'm seven, I'm 7. Girl, same.
31:00
When I heard that song, I was like, yeah, I feel that.
31:05
That was a good album too, and also their love is like the
31:08
movie was kind of just like a promo piece for that.
31:12
Album and like explicitly was they were like this album is the
31:18
accompanying soundtrack like there was also the Crossroad
31:21
soundtrack but they're like that's not really the
31:23
soundtrack. The real soundtrack is Britney's
31:26
album so. I knew that.
31:30
So good for them and good for Britney.
31:34
But one thing that's interesting about so the relationship
31:39
between Britney Spears and the guy, I don't even care what I
31:42
don't remember what his name was.
31:43
I don't care. They do kind of they end up like
31:46
having a fling and she does like end up having sex with him,
31:51
which like it's fine and great. This is coming.
31:54
This is coming of age story. He shouldn't have been on the
31:58
trip anyway. But I'm not going to fault her
31:59
for being like, you know what? I got to?
32:03
I can't go to a College of virgin.
32:05
That was not her motivation. And I was glad she was like,
32:07
this is this is what I want. It's like very different from
32:12
the beginning of the movie when she's with little boy Justin
32:15
Long, who's like, we should have sex because we've been laugh
32:18
partners for three years. But the film was actually
32:24
criticized by some people for not promoting safe sex, to which
32:31
Britney Spears responded. Quote.
32:32
I think by the time my character Lucy decides to Make Love in the
32:37
film, the audience realizes she's responsible enough and
32:40
hopefully did do that. There was a scene where I took
32:43
out a box of condoms, but they took that scene out because the
32:46
movie was too long. That's good PR.
32:50
So like, yeah, I just think everyone was blaming Britney for
32:56
being like, it's like Brit showed her mid drift too much.
32:59
That was the. Why didn't the man bring the
33:02
look? I get they cut it, but why isn't
33:04
he catching the flock? Why does Britney have to respond
33:08
for Lucy? It's his Dick.
33:09
Come on. Thank you.
33:11
So. Here's the thing, reading the
33:14
reviews of this movie put me in a dark place because critics are
33:20
like, not only is this movie dumb because it's for girls, but
33:25
it's just Britney Spears burying her midriff for an entire movie.
33:31
What's crazy is I didn't even notice.
33:33
Yeah, Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy how you just
33:36
sometimes, sometimes you just don't even notice.
33:39
But they were noticing in. Very scandalous.
33:43
So scandalous. So.
33:46
You know, since then there are some critics who have kind of
33:48
like revisited it and said, OK, you know what?
33:51
I take it back, it wasn't that bad.
33:53
But for the most part, despite its commercial success, it was
33:57
only made on a $12 million budget.
34:00
And they made like 60 million not.
34:04
Bad for a piece of promo for your album, that's a pretty good
34:07
killing and. You know what the director of
34:09
this film was? A music video director.
34:13
What if? What is Crossroads if not a
34:15
really long and interesting music video?
34:17
OK, what's the problem? With the IT is, I think it's
34:20
produced by MTV as well, so I feel like that just makes sense.
34:23
It's like, OK, it's. What are they expecting?
34:28
It's gonna be hot. There's gonna be mid drifts and
34:32
some singing. Yeah, some.
34:35
I love rock'n'roll cover. Yeah.
34:37
Which was great. That was.
34:39
Great. That's the best scene probably,
34:40
yeah. Which is the center element.
34:42
Oh yeah, it's. The one right, right behind you
34:44
on the TV screen and oh. It is her.
34:47
Yeah. God, she isn't.
34:49
She didn't age kind of like she's, she looks kind of the
34:53
same. I didn't realize she was old
34:54
enough to have been in this. So I was like, she can't be one
35:00
of the babes. You're like, no, she must be one
35:02
of the one of the. Children of.
35:03
The children, yeah. Yeah, I think I liked her the
35:08
best. I think I liked Mimi the best of
35:11
the three because she's just. Tough, yeah.
35:14
Tough Broad. I liked that about.
35:16
That trailer park attitude. Yeah, she teaches Zoe Saldana
35:20
how to throw a punch. She's like, I think every woman
35:22
should know how to throw a punch.
35:24
I love that, I said. I think that's great.
35:26
I don't know how to throw a punch if anyone.
35:27
'S like to teach me. Is it you don't want to?
35:30
I think it's like this. Yeah, you don't want to put your
35:32
thumb on the inside because then.
35:34
You break it, you could break it someone's first.
35:36
Yeah, if you're strong. Enough.
35:38
If you're strong enough, prove it.
35:42
I could see you becoming like like a kickboxing girl like that
35:48
could be your next. My next endeavor?
35:50
Yeah. Let me get a little more juice
35:52
up on the running and lifting and then we'll see if my yeah,
35:55
tiny arms can handle it. I think they can.
35:58
You can. Oh my God.
36:00
Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.
36:02
Yeah, I think that you could. And here's the thing.
36:05
If not, you can always run away if someone's coming for you.
36:09
You can. I'm gonna learn how to throw a
36:10
punch and then come back and we'll teach everyone.
36:13
And we'll teach everyone together.
36:15
Yes. When you come back to visit.
36:16
Yes. OK, Good.
36:20
There was another thing that I wanted to say about the making
36:23
of this movie. I know that I'm so all over the
36:25
place, but, you know, sometimes you gotta take the road.
36:28
Less trouble. Sorry.
36:33
I'm so sorry. But Britney Spears described
36:36
this as a teen movie that dealt with real issues that normal
36:40
teenagers live on a daily basis. And then she said would explain
36:46
the film's content quote that it is about this journey that the
36:51
three of us best friends take, finding ourselves and what we
36:53
want out of life and getting our friendship back.
36:56
Friends are all you have at the end of the day.
36:58
When your boyfriend breaks up with you, who do you call?
37:00
Your girlfriend? I just love that message.
37:03
And I said, yeah, you do. Friends are all we have.
37:08
I love that. That's sweet.
37:10
I know for the girls. So throughout the film, these
37:16
three girls who kind of like, you know, had drifted apart over
37:19
time. They keep getting they keep
37:21
getting closer. They keep finding their roots.
37:23
They keep having these like fights where they're like
37:27
unearthing some of their long held resentments, but they're
37:31
working them out. I'm like, yeah, you guys fight
37:34
about it. Let's go like get.
37:35
It out. So that you can like, move
37:38
through it. And I thought they did a good
37:39
job of that, too. Like, they didn't show these
37:41
girls as like, you know, passive aggressive or as, like, they
37:47
weren't like, wow, look how rude they are.
37:49
It was just like, these are girls who have hurt each other,
37:53
built resentments against each other because they've been
37:56
pitted against one another. And now look at them working it
37:59
out on the road. Yeah, I feel like if I had also
38:03
taken away from that, that would have been very helpful in my
38:05
life, yeah. If only one thing I did take
38:11
away from this, though, was always be writing poems in your
38:15
little journal. She is always Lucy, the the one
38:20
Britney Spears plays. She's always writing in our
38:22
journal. And then finally the guy is
38:24
like, what are you always writing in your journal?
38:27
She's like poems, Mesley. And then the poem, I'm not a
38:32
girl, not a girl, not yet a woman does become the song.
38:36
And when she's just reading it out of her little notebook, I'm
38:39
like, well, it's actually like, that's pretty.
38:43
That's like, really not bad. Like when you say it like that,
38:47
I know. I just recently read some of my
38:51
my poetry from when I was like around 12:00-ish at Mortified,
38:59
the show here locally. And I'll just say it was not, it
39:04
was not as good as the lyrics of I'm Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman.
39:08
And yes, of course, at that point, like this character is
39:11
18, but I'm still like, that wasn't bad.
39:13
That's so funny. But I did, I did take note of
39:17
that behavior, and I was always writing stuff in my little
39:20
notebook, just like Britney. I feel so.
39:22
This is so funny with the timing.
39:24
I feel like, OK, like this. Earlier this week I literally
39:28
bought a tiny spiral notebook and we've been writing poetry.
39:31
Oh. My God, are you kidding me?
39:33
You've like got your little field notes and you're like,
39:35
yeah. There's little hummingbirds on
39:37
the front, but I was just like, I what?
39:39
I was looking for a Mary Oliver book.
39:41
This is a total side tangent that I've read before to like
39:44
gift to somebody. And then while I was at the
39:47
bookstore, I saw Pablo Naruto's love poems, which like he wrote
39:52
to his wife. And it was a book that I used to
39:55
have, like I had borrowed in college from her friend and gave
39:57
back. So I was like, I'm going to buy
39:58
that too. And then I was like, I'm going
40:00
to just like, I kind of miss writing poems.
40:02
And I feel like it's like everything is like always has to
40:05
be shared to online. So I'm like, it's nice that it's
40:07
like in a cute little secret book.
40:09
And like, so now I'm like affirmed.
40:13
The universe is like now you have to write poetry because of
40:15
crossroads. That is so incredible.
40:18
No, you started say that I was like, this is weird.
40:22
Wow. But no, it is so cool.
40:24
And like when I was a kid, I wrote a lot of poems and songs
40:27
and stuff. I also like I have this journal
40:30
where the intro is like, my name is Melissa Leavenworth.
40:33
I'm 14 years old. I'm from Aurora, Co, and I hate
40:36
George W Bush. That's the intro.
40:42
I'm real strong. That is, that was the birth of
40:46
an icon. Yeah, I miss writing.
40:47
Like, you type everything now. So it's like there's something
40:50
so, like, nice about writing. And even when it's not like
40:53
journaling, poems are like small and sweet and they just be like
40:56
a little inspo from the day. I hate when they get like, stuck
41:00
in your phone as text messages forever.
41:03
Totally. So I'm like just write
41:04
something. And then I like look back at my
41:06
notes, like my notes app and I'm like stupid.
41:10
Yeah, and I also feel like after being in comedy and writing
41:12
jokes and shit, that's just so like, absurdist, which I love or
41:18
like, just like, so not sweet. Like poetry is just such like a
41:22
nice indulgence. I don't know.
41:25
And Lucy knew that. Exactly.
41:27
I know you're going to bring it back.
41:28
You're so good. Oh my God, thank you.
41:31
But I really am kind of like, I'm kind of like gooped and
41:34
gagged that this is happening for you right now.
41:38
Incredible. So there's one, there's one
41:43
thing that you you probably won't remember off the top of
41:47
your head, but maybe if I describe it, you will.
41:51
They're all in the car. And Mimi, the pregnant one,
41:56
she's getting her hair braided by Zoe Saldana.
42:00
And she's getting like, you know, white girl.
42:03
I just went to Mexico braids and part of me was like, that really
42:07
doesn't age well. And also it is Zoe Saldana doing
42:13
her hair. It's like, wow.
42:14
Oh, it might have aged better than not totally unwell.
42:20
Yeah, I mean, obviously it's like, it wasn't actually like.
42:26
So it was like a director's choice, right?
42:28
Probably to be like Oh yeah, braid her hair but.
42:32
Yeah, I wonder how intentional it was to.
42:34
I mean, if it seems like an intentional choice.
42:37
Right. Yeah.
42:38
Because, like, I mean, that is such a, it is such like an
42:44
evocative image, right? Like girls braiding each other's
42:49
hair. It's like, that's the, that's
42:52
the standard. Yeah.
42:54
But she's braiding her hair in a way that's like, oh.
42:57
Shit. Oh, sorry, the alarm, the alarm
43:00
is going off. It's.
43:02
For my. Probiotics.
43:03
Hotties take their probiotics, everybody.
43:05
So do you need to take your probiotics right now?
43:08
It's in the fridge at work. I'll.
43:09
Get there later, we'll get it later, but don't forget I just
43:14
recently learned that there's prebiotics.
43:19
Yeah. Probiotics and then I went to I
43:22
went to Sprouts the other day and I saw post try biotics.
43:26
I said there's more than what's the third probably post post
43:32
biotics. I don't know.
43:34
I looked at it. I said it's too much.
43:36
It's too much information overload.
43:39
I don't like when they advertise it as they're alive.
43:42
It makes me feel really weird. Help.
43:44
I don't mean. When they're like, it's alive.
43:47
I mean, it's alive, that's it. Can we talk about a value prop?
43:51
Yes, thank you, thank you. It like.
43:53
It's funny, you could use it in like a tagline to like, you
43:57
know, make it stand out to get people's attention.
43:59
But like it's alive is not it's not selling me.
44:05
It's certainly not making me choose one probiotic.
44:08
Over another host. I know no.
44:11
Bacterias, I know, just like that man and.
44:16
Just like that man, he said. I don't.
44:19
Don't you understand what it's like to spend all your time with
44:21
girls? Don't you understand what it's
44:23
like to spend all your time with the three of them?
44:26
You're a Tri biotic or whatever? Yeah, if it makes you happy, if
44:37
you weren't seen along during that scene when the girls are
44:43
just going off, I don't know what's wrong with you.
44:47
You got neurotransmitter deficiencies.
44:49
For sure. You got to get some probiotics
44:51
or something for that. Wow, you know what is?
44:55
So one thing that's really fucked up and brings the whole
45:00
movie full circle is Zoe Saldana shows up at the door of her
45:07
shitty fiance who we already know is cheating on her.
45:11
We find out that he's the one that sexually assaulted Mimi,
45:16
the one who was pregnant. She's like, it was you.
45:19
And it's, you know what? Because she believes women, she
45:25
doesn't side with him. She isn't like, Oh my God, like.
45:28
He would never. He would never.
45:30
She's like I, I'm with her I'm with.
45:35
My brother. I haven't even been friends with
45:37
her for like 10 years, but I'm with her good and I thought that
45:42
was really important. Yeah, yeah, that is important.
45:48
But she does. Fall down the stairs and then
45:49
have a miscarriage. Well, they couldn't show
45:53
abortion, that's also true. And they had to free her up to
45:56
live her life because you can't. Because otherwise.
45:59
Because you cannot travel. She wanted the world.
46:01
She cannot. Travel you.
46:02
You just can't. The laws of gravity does don't
46:05
allow. Yeah, that's true.
46:09
Actually, when you're when after you have a baby, you are
46:13
bedridden. For the rest of your life, Yeah,
46:15
it's crazy. Except for pick up and drop off
46:18
at school. That's true, yes.
46:19
They let you out for that, which is kind of nice.
46:21
It's a nice reprieve. Yeah, thank God.
46:24
That's why pick up and drop off is so chaotic.
46:26
And coveted like we've. Never been out of the house,
46:29
we're not allowed to do anything or go anywhere.
46:35
So then they're finally in LA. Everything is fucked.
46:40
You know, Mimi's had a miscarriage, kids just learned
46:48
that her boyfriend is a rapist and that he's cheating on her.
46:52
These are very heavy themes for a teen movie.
46:55
Lucy's finds out that her mom literally didn't want her.
47:00
I mean, it's Samantha. It kind of checks Outlook.
47:04
She had a new family. She didn't need her anymore.
47:07
She's. Like, Oh yeah, you.
47:09
She's like Lucy. What are you doing here?
47:14
And she keeps saying why do you keep saying my name like I love
47:19
that. So things are bad.
47:23
Things have taken a turn for the worse for all three of our
47:25
girls. And then Dan Aykroyd, who plays
47:30
pretty stad what I get I. Know it's like.
47:36
He played it so earnestly too, and I really appreciated that,
47:40
that he didn't treat it like, oh, this is just camp.
47:43
He was like, I'm playing a dad. This is what I do.
47:47
This is what I do. I'm Dan Aykroyd.
47:49
I show up for work and he did. So he he shows up and he's like,
47:55
all right, Lucy, time to go home.
47:57
And she basically says, that's not my dream dad, that's your
48:02
dream, tells him, don't make me leave you like mom did.
48:07
Let me go. Just a real gut punch.
48:12
She punched Dan Aykroyd right in that gut.
48:17
But the girls are like, yeah, let's go, go to the audition
48:20
now. You're the star.
48:21
This actually is not about Mimi at all anymore.
48:24
It is not her audition. Fuck Mimi.
48:26
Fuck Mimi, she'll be fine. She'll be about.
48:28
Baby free now. She is baby.
48:29
Free, so she has a whole life ahead.
48:31
She can go travel the world. That's it.
48:36
Her dream? That's her dream, the world.
48:40
And so then she performs, I'm not a girl, not yet a woman,
48:43
with the support of the guy and some a band that he's gathered
48:49
for the audition. And Dan Aykroyd is there in the
48:53
crowd saying, yeah, go Lucy. And they have the whole their
48:59
whole lives ahead of them. They put together a time
49:02
capsule, not of their future plans, but to put away the past.
49:08
And I said. I love that it's kind of cute
49:10
too. They're like look.
49:12
Bury, bury it, beeped out. Bury it way down.
49:16
We've we've brought it up now. Time to put it back down.
49:22
We dug, literally dug it out of the ground.
49:24
We're gonna put it right back. Yeah, let it decompose.
49:26
Let it decompose, get it. They put they buried it like in
49:31
on the beach. So it's like it's just gonna go.
49:33
I think the first one too was buried like 2 inches below.
49:36
You're just like. That's not.
49:38
Like, OK, so you put it in a plastic bag, it's not gonna
49:40
make, it's not gonna preserve it for 10 years.
49:44
So yeah, they, that was going straight and that was garbage
49:48
going straight into the ocean. But you know, it was the
49:50
thought. They counted.
49:52
It was all about the thought. And at that point, it's like,
49:57
who cares where they end up? Like, we know that there's just
50:01
like so much hope. It's like they can do anything
50:04
now. I didn't need to know whether
50:08
whether Lucy's character was going to stay with the guy.
50:12
I didn't need to know where everyone was going to college.
50:15
I just knew, like, these girls can do anything.
50:19
And that is why it's so sad that we saw how it actually.
50:25
Because in my mind, I'm like, obviously Lucy doesn't end up
50:27
with that, man. It's far worse.
50:29
She ends up locked in her home for many years.
50:36
I do sometimes just check on Brittany to see how things are.
50:40
I also remember, like when we were watching Crossroads, I was
50:43
like, like the thing about the the knife dancing is that like,
50:47
she's always danced like that. Now it's just with knives.
50:50
So now it's alarming. But before it was the same
50:53
moves. Yeah, it was the same moves.
50:57
She's it's still a little strange on the insty.
51:00
Yeah, totally. How could it not be?
51:02
I think she was recently reunited with her son though or
51:04
something again or yeah I'm not sure.
51:07
Sweet. We do wish Britney the best.
51:10
Also the fact that that came to light through like a podcast is
51:14
pretty crazy. And brown circle.
51:18
It really is. You know what we need to bring
51:23
black blooper reels. I need a blooper reel at the end
51:27
of my movie. From now on.
51:30
I need a music video layered with.
51:35
A blooper reel? Why did Why did we stop doing
51:37
blooper reels? Come on, give us a laugh, even
51:40
if it's staged. You know I don't.
51:42
Care if it's staged, just give me a blooper reel I feel.
51:45
Like Marvel ruined the blooper reel.
51:47
Oh my God with like people waiting for the credits to end
51:50
for that. Like that last little scene?
51:53
Yeah, and the last little scene is not goops and gags.
51:56
It's just like A twist ending. It's just.
51:58
A cliffhanger it's. Not like behind the scenes,
52:00
like, yeah, you know, lames are lame.
52:04
Do you take your probiotics? I feel.
52:07
Like you wouldn't be going off again.
52:08
I sat one for no see. It's it's, it thinks that I want
52:13
to snooze because that's all that I do.
52:17
I see. It's a classic.
52:19
It's the classic hit snooze instead of off, hit off instead
52:22
of snooze. But you know what it's better to
52:27
have? Oh.
52:28
Get your meds from the fridge. Yeah, and we're not anywhere
52:33
near the fridge. No, because.
52:34
It's at work. We're a drive away from it.
52:37
Yeah, unfortunately. But I was like, 810 will be on
52:40
time. That was hilarious.
52:43
That was really funny. But you thought that.
52:45
Thank you so much. I was just like, yeah, time is
52:48
hard. Girl, ain't that the truth?
52:51
Ain't that the truth? Well, gosh, this movie was.
52:59
It had it all. Friendship.
53:02
Love. Parents abandonment.
53:09
Virginity. Trauma.
53:13
There was a lot of trauma. A ton of trauma.
53:15
It was very like for a film that is again, like not realistic or
53:22
feels like so formulaic. These characters really had
53:26
depth of experience. They were not what they seemed
53:30
on the surface. They really had a lot, a lot
53:33
going on and their stories were worth exploring.
53:37
Like stories like this are not really told anymore.
53:41
Stories of like just teenage girls and what they're going
53:46
through and like this coming of age tale that's just about like
53:51
friendship. It's just movies like this don't
53:55
get funded. Anymore.
53:57
Not even for. Not even for pop stars.
54:02
I know I'm trying to think of anything and that's similar and
54:05
the closest I can come to is as told by Ginger.
54:09
Yeah, and that was? I think that ages perfectly.
54:15
Oh my God, absolutely. That's not the episode we're
54:17
doing, but it is very good. It is.
54:19
Honestly perfect it is. I love as told by Ginger.
54:22
Me too. It's amazing, it's comforting.
54:25
Ladybird was kind of. This ah ladybird was good.
54:29
Yeah, because, you know, it's got like the the trauma with the
54:32
parents, but also like it's complicated and it's about
54:37
female friendship. And then there's a guy who
54:39
inserts himself and then they decide that he's not worth it.
54:42
Is that? Timothy Shell.
54:43
Yeah. God, I remember the.
54:45
Yeah, that's probably the first thing I saw.
54:46
What a what? A uprising of Timmy.
54:49
Yeah, but but that that was a, it wasn't really like a.
54:58
God, should we make a indie film?
54:59
Oh. My God, does anyone want to fund
55:02
or film does? Anyone want to fund an indie
55:04
film? It could be about running
55:09
brands. OK, hello Brands.
55:12
I don't run but but I can if I'm being chased for a little while.
55:18
I have plantar fasciitis. It's really or if I'm being paid
55:22
I will, I will put my chronic injury to the side.
55:27
I could do a story about girlhood in chronic injuries and
55:33
ableism. Oh.
55:34
My God and ableism. That's the formula.
55:38
That's the formula. We'll talk.
55:40
All right, we'll. We'll be in discussions.
55:42
All right, we'll be in discussion.
55:43
Thunders Sharks will be coming. Yeah.
55:48
So did did this movie age Well, Yeah.
55:51
And no, it, it's like we, it really was important for me to.
55:58
I don't know why I feel like I'm so self center to me and like
56:00
this was so important for me to watch like I'm in my 30s no.
56:05
I think actually, after hearing you, I think that when I watched
56:08
it like the most, like I watched it maybe about a year ago, but
56:11
I'm like, I don't think I think hearing your take on it makes me
56:16
feel like it aged a little better than I thought.
56:18
Yeah. It had because my focus was like
56:22
this man is dangerous. These girls are are in danger,
56:25
yes, and this is terrible. We would never do this anymore,
56:30
but. I don't just like, get in a car
56:31
with a stranger. The girlhood parts are actually
56:34
very endearing and I think are very important, like the growing
56:38
through, I think the healthy dialogue, I think the healthy
56:41
arguing. Yes, they are not not conflict
56:44
averse. Yeah, and I love that about.
56:46
That, and that's what that's what girlhood needs is like, we
56:49
need to be able to like talk about some shit and sort it out
56:53
and get a little angry with each other sometimes and then be
56:55
like, all right, we forgive each other, yeah.
56:58
And move on. Right.
56:59
Like yeah, I think that is important.
57:02
Yeah, if only we learned those lessons when we watched it, you
57:06
know? Yeah, it took me short of time.
57:08
No, not at all. That's not what I took away.
57:10
No, I was like my whole life. Yes, makes sense and I do and
57:21
she does follow her on Instagram.
57:25
Melissa Lanell. Melissa Lanell, What else?
57:29
What else do we need to discuss? You waiting for the photo photo
57:36
to come back. The outfits are good.
57:38
Look at look at that mid drift. Yeah, I think that's it.
57:42
Yeah. It's just covered it.
57:44
The movie is kind of like 4 scenes if you like.
57:49
It was, yeah. There's a good amount of filler,
57:52
I think. No, it's great.
57:55
I think that's perfect. Yeah, gosh, I'd love to hear
58:01
what all of you think about Crossroads.
58:03
You can rewatch it. It's on Hulu.
58:04
I know that we're not watching Hulu right now because we're,
58:09
you know, kind of taking a stand against Disney Plus and CBS and,
58:14
like, the whole empire. I have the DVD if anyone wants
58:17
but if. You need the DVD.
58:18
Or if you're like me and you don't subscribe to Hulu but you
58:22
have a family member who is still subscribed here, that's
58:26
like, OK, honestly, can we talk for a second about like.
58:28
Passwords here. When there is hello, whenever
58:33
there's like a fucked up thing in media that happens and
58:37
there's a call for like boycott this streaming service.
58:39
I'm like easy enough. I don't think easy for a mooch.
58:47
Easy for a mooch. That's that's what I'm saying.
58:50
Look, I'm the I'm the hook up for HBO.
58:53
If anyone needs HBO, honestly, hit me up.
58:55
I'll give you my password. I don't bundle that now with
58:58
Hulu. It's this Hulu, HBO, Disney
59:03
Plus. Someone recently was like, are
59:05
you paying for Hulu? You should cancel it so you can
59:07
move to San Francisco. I was like, well, first of all,
59:09
let me tell you the $20 moving to San Francisco, it's gonna
59:12
make a very small note. It's.
59:13
Not gonna make. A real difference.
59:15
Second of all, I think I cancel it and then I re sign up every
59:18
time I want to watch something so I I have to check right?
59:21
But then I was like, I just want to watch Bluey sometimes.
59:24
Yeah, hello. I'm the, I'm the and I'm the bad
59:29
guy and. She's the problem and.
59:31
She's I think I did pay for it recently but I'll cancel it
59:33
before it renews on the 21st, OK.
59:36
And if you happen to have, if you're a password sharer and
59:41
someone you know has access to at the time of this recording,
59:44
it's on Hulu. So, so, you know, do without
59:47
what you will. I'm not endorsing Hulu.
59:50
This this podcast, it's not associated with CBS, but if
59:56
you're willing to pay. Then I but if any producers who
1:00:01
watch. And if anyone's listening who
1:00:04
has money, we are trying to make a film.
1:00:07
So, Melissa, thank you so much for coming on the show.
1:00:11
This was an absolute delight. I'm so happy to have you back in
1:00:14
the studio. And thank you for thank you for
1:00:17
letting me really work through some shit.
1:00:19
I. Like it's a joy.
1:00:21
I love hanging out with you. Thank you for having me.
1:00:23
It's so fun and I love Crossroads therapy.
1:00:27
I think it's just been good. I think I've I've seen my eyes
1:00:31
are open to a lot that I didn't see before.
1:00:34
Wow. And girlhood and camaraderie is,
1:00:37
you know, yeah, sometimes you just got to fight a little bit
1:00:40
and then bury it. Yeah, bury it way deep.
1:00:42
Alert. Or just a couple inches under
1:00:45
the surface? Or just the little girls.
1:00:47
Just a little bit, just on the beach.
1:00:49
Yeah, just on the beach. The tide's going to come up, and
1:00:52
it's going to. Wash, Let it wash away, let it
1:00:54
wash away. If you're listening to this or
1:00:57
watching it and you like what you're seeing, please write a
1:01:01
review. It is.
1:01:03
I am devastated by how long it has been since someone wrote a
1:01:08
review about this show. Where do you prefer the reviews
1:01:11
to be written? The reviews on Apple Podcasts
1:01:16
are very important. That is where I would like the
1:01:20
reviews to be. OK, that's good to know.
1:01:22
I mean, it's still like give me 5 stars on Spotify, like
1:01:25
subscribe to the YouTube channel, all of that helps.
1:01:29
Give it a thumb like like the video, do all that.
1:01:31
But like writing a review on Apple Podcasts, that's what I
1:01:35
need right now. I'll go do that.
1:01:37
Oh my God. Thank you.
1:01:38
Yeah. OK, well, she's going to go do
1:01:39
it. Will you join her?
1:01:40
Too. I'll actually watch the one
1:01:41
Harry Met Sally and then I'll do one for that one.
1:01:44
Oh my God, amazing. So I genuinely want to listen to
1:01:46
that one. OK, great.
1:01:47
Yeah. And listener, if you want to
1:01:48
listen to that too, go back in the catalog.
1:01:51
We got to get out of here. You got to go.
1:01:53
Take a probiotics. My stomach is unwell without my
1:01:56
tribiotics. And listener, if you are some
1:02:02
sort of like health food brand and you want to tell me about
1:02:07
probiotics? Gut health babies.
1:02:10
Send me free things and I will promote it.
1:02:14
Because you know what age as well.
1:02:16
Your gut. If you take tribiotics.
1:02:21
I'm not trying to be, you know, this is not, this is not a, a
1:02:25
detox tea place. This is a probiotics place.
1:02:29
And why? Because I am merely a host.
1:02:32
And I'm not trying to shit myself all the time, Yeah.
1:02:35
OK, gotta go. Bye.