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Credlin | 30 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kranland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, great to have your company. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight. Labor asleep at the wheel, meaning the coalitions
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Speaker 2: now announcing as we speak, a massive overhaul of our
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Speaker 2: national security. It's fast becoming a big election issue. We'll
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Speaker 2: get to all the detail and analysis on what they
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Speaker 2: will change if elected in a moment. Inflation might have
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Speaker 2: been down yesterday, that's a good thing, but today evidence
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Speaker 2: that wholesale power prices have dramatically increased, and yet Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen keeps trying to tell us renewables are cheap. Plus.
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Speaker 2: You won't believe what the Federal Treasurer had to say
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Speaker 2: on morning television today following news, of course, of that
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Speaker 2: foiled terror plot in Sydney. Now what is said about
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Speaker 2: our Jewish community is horrific. It's unbelievable. I'll show you
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Speaker 2: that in a moment. And on that explosive caravan issue,
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Speaker 2: it could easily have been a mass casualty event. More
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Speaker 2: details are emerging, being still vague, a whole lot of secrecy.
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Speaker 2: We're not being told much, are we. Tony Abbott will
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Speaker 2: join me shortly for his take. Peter Dutton said.
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Speaker 3: This, people are now living in fear and it's been
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Speaker 3: entirely predictable that when the Prime Minister hasn't stood up
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Speaker 3: and been strong and renounced all of this activity over
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Speaker 3: the course of the last fifteen months or so, well,
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Speaker 3: of course it's going to escalate.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with that issue because after finding a caravan
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Speaker 2: with enough explosives to kill hundreds of Jews in a
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Speaker 2: mass casualty terror attack, you think that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: would be the first leader Australians would hear from. But no,
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Speaker 2: yet again it was the new South Wales premier taking
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Speaker 2: the lead.
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Speaker 4: It is utterly appalling and shameful that an individual would
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Speaker 4: spray racist, hate filled messages on a school. That tells
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Speaker 4: you everything you need to know about how appalling these
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Speaker 4: bastards are.
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Speaker 2: That was in picking up, of course, on more anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic attacks this morning. But meanwhile, over on morning breakfast
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Speaker 2: television we had the Treasurer the next Labour PM in waiting.
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Speaker 2: If you believe what he's telling his colleagues say this.
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Speaker 5: This is obviously a terrifying development. What it shows is
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Speaker 5: that the fears that a lot of Australians in the
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Speaker 5: Jewish community have are not always unfounded, not.
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Speaker 2: Always unfounded, meaning what that sometimes they are The Jews
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Speaker 2: sometimes make up claims that they've had their synagogue's bond,
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Speaker 2: that their cars are bird that the homes are hit
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Speaker 2: with graffiti, because the evidence, the facts are the very opposite,
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Speaker 2: and comments like that are disgraceful. They're unbecoming of anyone
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Speaker 2: in any position of authority. Now, later this afternoon, after
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Speaker 2: being pushed hard by Sky News, the Treasurer tried to
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Speaker 2: walk back those comments for you be the But in
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Speaker 2: terms of the federal government's official response to these revelations
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Speaker 2: of a likely terror plot, it wasn't until well into
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Speaker 2: the morning that we actually heard from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 6: This is a time for unity and for the country
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Speaker 6: to come together against these atrocities and this appalling acts.
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Speaker 6: Not a time to look for political partisanship or to
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Speaker 6: make political points. I don't intend to do.
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Speaker 2: So political partisanship. Contrast those weak words about what he
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Speaker 2: says about supporting Jewish Australians with the reality of what
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Speaker 2: he's actually done at the UN after almost seven decades
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Speaker 2: of bipartisanship. He's forced us to vote against Israel. He's
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Speaker 2: forced Australia to take a position that in effect rewards
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Speaker 2: the terrorists over the only democracy in the Middle East.
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Speaker 2: He's handed out three thousand visas to people from Gaza
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Speaker 2: with all but no security checks, and once around seventy
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Speaker 2: percent have been allowed to apply to stay permanently. Now
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Speaker 2: if that happens the law, then bring their relatives to
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Speaker 2: Australia and those numbers will treble. Despite the bile coming
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Speaker 2: out of mosques in Sydney and Melbourne or no hate
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Speaker 2: preachers have been deported, no anti Semitic protesters have had
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Speaker 2: their visas canceled, no university encampments have been broken up,
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Speaker 2: and at least by the federal police have hardly seen
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Speaker 2: any arrests. This is the weakest prime minister in living memory,
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Speaker 2: and the Albanizing government is worse than Whitlam because at
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Speaker 2: least Whitlam looked and sounded like a leader and was
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Speaker 2: in charge of events rather than just responding to them. Today,
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Speaker 2: there are signs that the Prime minister's own team is
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Speaker 2: losing faith with him. Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones or He's
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Speaker 2: just announced his retirement, a signal that he expects the
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Speaker 2: government to lose. We know that the West Australian Labor
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Speaker 2: Premier doesn't want the Prime Minister anywhere near him ahead
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Speaker 2: of his election on March nine, and today there are
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Speaker 2: reports that some Labor MPs don't want the PM coming
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Speaker 2: to their electorates. The PM is diluted if he thinks
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Speaker 2: the difference between winning and losing is more elbow. That's
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Speaker 2: the line he's spuny his colleagues. As support for the
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Speaker 2: Voice plummeted. He told the caucus just keep faith. I'll
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Speaker 2: turn it all around, until he didn't because the more
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister said in favor of the Voice, the
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Speaker 2: less Australians liked it. And that's what's happening here now.
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Speaker 2: The more people see the Prime Minister, the more they're
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Speaker 2: walking away from Labor in the polls. Now, if the
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Speaker 2: polls are accurate, they expose the truth. There's been no
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Speaker 2: recovery of that downward trend for well over sixteen months.
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Speaker 2: To me, it looks terminal, or it will be terminal
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Speaker 2: the more time they give Peter Dutton to get his
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Speaker 2: message out and campaign. At least the Prime Minister's office
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Speaker 2: managed to restrain him from indulgent appearances at the cricket
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Speaker 2: and the tennis over summer. But there's a serious breakdown
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Speaker 2: in his office if they allow happy snaps like this
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Speaker 2: to be taken and posted on social media of a
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Speaker 2: high rollers fundraiser with discredited form of Premier Daniel Andrews
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Speaker 2: an assortment of dubious others. Yesterday's lower inflation figures had
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Speaker 2: Labor luminaries from the Prime Minister down boasting about Labour's
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Speaker 2: economic management and not so subtly trying to heavy the
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor into a rate cut.
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Speaker 5: Now, the soft landing that we have been planning for
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Speaker 5: and preparing for is now looking more and more likely.
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Speaker 2: Labour seemed to think that a quarter of a percent
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Speaker 2: cut and mortgage rates, if that happens after thirteen rate hikes,
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Speaker 2: will be their political salvation, even though that would still
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Speaker 2: leave a standard home loan percentage four percentage points higher
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Speaker 2: than when Labour took office and the average home buyer
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Speaker 2: still twenty thousand dollars a year worse off. It'd be
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Speaker 2: the contemporary equivalent of John Howard's fifteen minutes of Economic
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Speaker 2: Sunshine after the Kenny Recession. Seven successive courters and negative
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Speaker 2: growth per person means that the Albanezy household recession is
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Speaker 2: way way worse than keatings in terms of real disposable
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Speaker 2: income once mortgage costs are taken into account. The Coalition
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Speaker 2: reckons there's been a ten percent hit on your living standards,
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Speaker 2: made worse by Labour's renewables only energy policy and its
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Speaker 2: addiction to ever more government spending and handouts. Today it
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Speaker 2: seems that Labour's jobs destroying so called nature positive environmental legislation,
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Speaker 2: well that's back on the table to appease the Greens,
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Speaker 2: even though the Prime Minister earlier promised to kill it
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Speaker 2: off to appease the Wa Premiere. This is just a
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Speaker 2: foretaste of the economic vandalism that would be our country's
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Speaker 2: fate should the Prime Minister need to do a deal
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Speaker 2: with the Greens to survive.
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Speaker 3: And we now find out that there's a secret deal
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Speaker 3: that's been signed between the Greens and Labor Party about
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Speaker 3: introducing a bill which will stop mining in its tracks
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Speaker 3: in Wa, which would destroy the Wa economy, not to
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Speaker 3: mention the national economy. So if the Prime Minister is
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Speaker 3: trying to stitch up a secret deal before the election,
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Speaker 3: he should release that detail so that people know about it.
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Speaker 3: Before they vote. At the election.
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Speaker 2: You blow up WA, you blow up mining, you blow
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Speaker 2: up the budget, and a deal with the Greens would
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Speaker 2: be the worst possible election outcome. The next worst and
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Speaker 2: probably now highly unlikely, would be a majority Labor government.
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Speaker 2: But the best outcome, and the one that looks more
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Speaker 2: and more likely to me, would be a clear coalition
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Speaker 2: to wind to send mister Copa Kabana packing into that
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Speaker 2: retirement that clearly he's already planning. See your ladder, elbow.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it can come fast enough. All right,
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Speaker 2: we'll go to Cameron. Out the headlines Skyny's political reporter
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Speaker 2: at Trudy Macintosh.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister has called for unity in the wake
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Speaker 7: of the latter's foiled anti Semitic attack.
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Speaker 6: There's zero tolerance in Australia for hatred and for any Semitism,
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Speaker 6: and I want any perpetrators to be hunted down and
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Speaker 6: locked up.
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Speaker 3: It is a national disgrace and the Prime Minister is
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Speaker 3: presided over this deteriorating situation.
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Speaker 6: This is a time for unity and for the country
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Speaker 6: to come together.
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Speaker 7: The terror threat level remains it probable. In a statement,
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Speaker 7: AZIO boss Mike Burgess pointed to a disturbing escalation targeting
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Speaker 7: Jewish interests, adding that Azio does not believe there's an
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Speaker 7: ongoing threat to public safety.
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Speaker 3: Should we exp prize that this is escalated now it
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Speaker 3: to an attempt to terrorist totake. No, we shouldn't and
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister needs to show national leadership here.
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Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Treasurer Jim Chalmers has apologized for these clumsy comments
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Speaker 7: this morning.
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Speaker 5: This is obviously a terrifying development and what it shows
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Speaker 5: is that the fears that a lot of Australians in
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Speaker 5: the Jewish community have are not always unfounded.
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Speaker 7: In a statement, the Treasurer saying it was his intention
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Speaker 7: to share and acknowledge the very real and understandable fears
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Speaker 7: and concerns in the Jewish community in the light of
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Speaker 7: recent events. He adds, I could have and should have
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Speaker 7: expressed that more clearly and I'm sorry I didn't.
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 8: Are not always unfounded after what we've seen happen in
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Speaker 8: Sydney in particular over the last two months. No, no,
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Speaker 8: their fears are not always unfounded. Shame on you, Jim Chalmers.
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Speaker 8: Shame on you.
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Speaker 7: Anthony Albernizi and Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones joins the list
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Speaker 7: of Labor MPs retiring ahead of the next election.
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Speaker 6: The average length of part earliament time for a Member
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Speaker 6: of Parliaments.
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Speaker 3: Five and a bit years. I've done fifteen and I've
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Speaker 3: just reached the stage in my life where I think
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Speaker 3: it was time for me to do something else. I
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Speaker 3: don't know what that is yet.
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Speaker 7: Trudy Macintosh Sky News, Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a busy election year, greatab Trudy back on
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Speaker 2: deck now. If you thought Tanya plavsex ill conceived Nature
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Speaker 2: Positive plan was dead and buried after the PM put
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Speaker 2: the kibosh on it last year, we'll think again. The
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Speaker 2: Environment Minister has revealed she's working with all parties to
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Speaker 2: secure the passage of the bills through the Senate, and
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton knows exactly who's she referring to.
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Speaker 3: And we now find out that there's a secret deal
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Speaker 3: that's been signed between the Greens and Labor Party about
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Speaker 3: introducing a bill which will stop mining in its tracks
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Speaker 3: in wa.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring my panel in for comment. Deputy Executive Director
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Speaker 2: at the Institute of Public Affairs Dan Wilde and One
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Speaker 2: Nation Chief of Staff James Ashby Gens welcome, Well, James.
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Speaker 2: If the polls are accurate, we know major already Labor
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Speaker 2: government is out of reach. So are we seeing here
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Speaker 2: the first steps exposed by Tanya Plebisk of a secret
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Speaker 2: deal between Labor and the Greens for some sort of
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Speaker 2: power sharing arrangement.
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Speaker 9: Well it shows that, but it also shows disunity within
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Speaker 9: the Labor Party and it's unclear right now who is
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Speaker 9: governing this country. Is it Tanya Plebcheck or is it
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Speaker 9: Anthony Albanezi. It's not just going to take the Greens
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Speaker 9: to get this bill across the line. We have to
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Speaker 9: look further afield, particularly in the Senate. Is it going
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Speaker 9: to be Jackie Lamby, Is it going to be Lydia Thorpe,
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Speaker 9: Is it going to be David Pocock. Just two of
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Speaker 9: those will help get that legislation across the line. But
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Speaker 9: it also indicates to me that unless this legislation is
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Speaker 9: passed in Labour's eyes, if they do form a minority
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Speaker 9: government in the lower House, there's no guarantee they'll get
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Speaker 9: it up in the next term of parliament. The only
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Speaker 9: thing that Australians can hope is is that this legislation
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Speaker 9: doesn't get up. Not only does it impact upon those
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Speaker 9: people within the mining sector, but it impacts upon those
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Speaker 9: within commercial fishing because the intent here is to lock
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Speaker 9: up thirty percent of the land, thirty percent of the oceans,
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Speaker 9: and then overlay the cultural Heritage acts that Western Australia
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Speaker 9: had to put up with for some months when it
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Speaker 9: was past there was it was later kicked out of
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Speaker 9: Western Australia because they could see the destruction it was
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Speaker 9: doing everything from mining to agriculture. And here we have
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Speaker 9: a labor government hell bent on implementing those things nationally.
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Speaker 9: It is chaotic, it's destructive, and labor will really destroy
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Speaker 9: our economy if this bill goes through.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the big promises that the government made
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Speaker 2: at the last election to cut power bills. Figures released
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Speaker 2: today by the Australian Energy Market Operator AMO so the
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Speaker 2: costure of generating electricity in the final months of twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four jumps some eighty three percent year on year.
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Speaker 2: The Australian Energy Regulators put the figure as high as
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty four percent in some regions, driven
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Speaker 2: by high demand and a shortage of coal fired power DAN.
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Speaker 2: You know, they like to demonize coal when it's missing
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Speaker 2: from the system, our power bills skyrocket. Now I've been
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Speaker 2: working with you the IPA, We've been on the road,
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Speaker 2: We've talked to farmers, we've talked to regional communities. When
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Speaker 2: an't we going to wake up and change course here
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Speaker 2: before it's too late?
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, Peter, I mean, how many times
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Speaker 1: do we have to say this? If you take coal
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Speaker 1: out of the system, and if you take baseload power
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Speaker 1: out of the system, prices are going to go up.
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Speaker 1: And when we saw that with hazer Wood, when that
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Speaker 1: was decommissioned, prices went not by approximately seventy percent. We're
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Speaker 1: seeing it now again. When you know coal comes out
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Speaker 1: of the system, prices go up. You need baseload power
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Speaker 1: that can operate twenty four seven, three sixty five rain,
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Speaker 1: hail or shine. You simply cannot power a modern economy
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Speaker 1: and society like Australias on weather dependent intermitted energy supply.
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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, you've been out there on the front
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Speaker 1: lines in farming communities, not just talking about the price impact,
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Speaker 1: but the impact on their lives and the impact on
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Speaker 1: our farm land. You know what's going to happen when
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Speaker 1: we take all this farmland offline and put wind turbines
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Speaker 1: and solar panels on there. It's going to jack up
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Speaker 1: prices for agricultural goods. Our exports will go down, not
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Speaker 1: to mention the impact on the way of life in
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Speaker 1: regional communities and the division that that is causing. So
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Speaker 1: this is what Australia will look like if we keep
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Speaker 1: going down the net zero path, high prices, blackouts and
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Speaker 1: farmland being destroyed. You know, we need to do a
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Speaker 1: U turn and we need to do it very quick.
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Speaker 1: But that ain't going to happen under this government.
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Speaker 2: Not yet. We've been talking obviously when I've been out
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Speaker 2: in the bush about the fire risk in regional Australia.
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Speaker 2: But have a look at Melbourne this morning. This is
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Speaker 2: a plume of smoke coming from a factory in Cheltenham.
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Speaker 2: Now this is a factory that produces solar panels and
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Speaker 2: batteries a quarter light, forty five trucks in attendance, over
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Speaker 2: one hundred firefighters on just this one actory fire alone.
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Speaker 2: James an expert recently told us here on Sky is
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Speaker 2: these batteries are causing more than ten thousand fires in
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Speaker 2: Australia per year. This is what the government doesn't want
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Speaker 2: us to talk about no.
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Speaker 9: And we're starting to see more and more of these
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Speaker 9: occur in suburban areas where people have put these batteries
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Speaker 9: in small, confined areas. And it can be anything from
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Speaker 9: an electric scooter through to an electric vehicle or one
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Speaker 9: of those power banks on the side of the house
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Speaker 9: which is posed to reduce your power cost. But the
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Speaker 9: issue here is the smaller we build these blocks of land.
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Speaker 9: We're seeing here in Queensland, blocks under three hundred square
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Speaker 9: meters now, where homes are just crammed into very tiny spaces,
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Speaker 9: it's very hard to extinguish a battery fire. And I
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Speaker 9: think what you'll find is over time, as more of
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Speaker 9: these catch a light, we're going to see larger extended
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Speaker 9: fire which take out whole communities as a result of it.
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Speaker 9: And the number one increase will be to your insurance
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Speaker 9: premiums as a result of it.
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Speaker 2: God to help me here, Dan explain this one New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Treasury says, now if there's a public sector project,
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Speaker 2: we're talking about a rod, we're talking about a bridge,
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Speaker 2: there's now a gender impact assessment that must happen first.
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Speaker 2: If it's over ten million dollars, that must happen first
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Speaker 2: before it goes to cabinet before a decision about whether
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Speaker 2: or not they're going to build it. Now this is insanity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unbelievable, and you wonder when and where
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Speaker 1: this is all going to end. If this came out
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Speaker 1: of Victoria, you'd probably just roll your eyes and shrug
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Speaker 1: your shoulders and say here we go again. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I think from New South Wales it's surprising. I think
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Speaker 1: the Men's government has been reasonably sensible in a number
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Speaker 1: of matters, including keeping the cold fire power station operating there.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I wonder whether this is a case
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Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy putting the cart before the horse. I
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Speaker 1: don't know they are wont to do that, but you know,
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Speaker 1: I think Australogys is just thoroughly over this, having the
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Speaker 1: sort of diversity, equity and inclusion mandates inserted into every
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Speaker 1: single facet of our lives. So we should be hiring
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Speaker 1: based on merit and projects need to go ahead. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is at the worst possible time. We've got this
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Speaker 1: record surge to our population from this unplanned mass migration
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Speaker 1: program that doesn't have the consent of the community, and
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Speaker 1: now here is yet another piece of red tape another
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Speaker 1: roadblock to building the infrastructure that Australia is desperately need.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: No one has been able to explain how building a road,
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Speaker 1: or building a bridge or building a tunnel could possibly
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Speaker 1: impact men or women differently. Everybody wants to get to work,
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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to pick up their kids from school, everyone
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Speaker 1: wants to get to the doctors on time. What on
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Speaker 1: earth are they talking about and why hasn't the treasurer,
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Speaker 1: the New South Wales Treasurer pulled their heads in and
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Speaker 1: said we're not doing this in New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: And follow the money train right. This is a delay
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Speaker 2: to all these projects and who's going to be paid
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Speaker 2: a couple of million dollars to do these genderous esmonds,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just outrageous. Last night, James, we talked
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Speaker 2: about the Queensland decision to put on pause puberty blockers
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Speaker 2: for those under nineteen. I think it might be eighteen
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Speaker 2: years of age. This is after a Can's clinic went rogue.
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Speaker 2: The whistleblowers reported today to say she raised a lot
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Speaker 2: of concerns with the previous government. Nothing was done. The
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Speaker 2: new Minister, Tim Michols has identified a whole lot of problems,
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Speaker 2: inconsistencies and documentation, a lot of legal concerns around the
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Speaker 2: lack of parental consent. We know now too released last
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Speaker 2: night a high profile letter politicians, former prime ministers, medical
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Speaker 2: experts to the federal government demanding a federal inquiry into
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Speaker 2: all of this we saw in the UK with a
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Speaker 2: cast review exactly why it's needed. It's all been halted
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Speaker 2: over there. Surely we shouldn't be afraid to hear from
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Speaker 2: the experts. No, exactly.
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Speaker 9: At Travistock is an example of one of those senators
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Speaker 9: over in the UK which has learned the hard way
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Speaker 9: and we are learning from Well, we haven't learned from
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Speaker 9: their mistakes.
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Speaker 2: That's the biggest issue.
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Speaker 9: We have tried as one nation on two occasions in
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Speaker 9: our federal Parliament to get this inquiry up that Tony
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Speaker 9: Abbott is now talking about. The one that he signed
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Speaker 9: is exactly the same as what we have tried to
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Speaker 9: get up an inquiry in our Senate on two occasions.
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Speaker 9: Now both the Labor and a good proportion of Liberal
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Speaker 9: Party members in the Senate have voted against this inquiry.
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Speaker 9: So good luck to Tourney if he can twist the
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Speaker 9: arms of his former colleagues to support this. Well done,
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Speaker 9: but I just do not see the Liberal Party coming
20:46
Speaker 9: on board. It's the likes of the Jane Humes and
20:49
Speaker 9: the Dean Smith's, both senators, both in one in wa
20:53
Speaker 9: one in Victoria, both very prominent individuals in our Senate
20:57
Speaker 9: that for some reason are holding the Liberal Party back
21:00
Speaker 9: from supporting one nation on this inquiry.
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Speaker 2: It's about time they.
21:03
Speaker 9: Shift their mood because as we've seen in America, this
21:06
Speaker 9: has been well received, and not just in the States,
21:09
Speaker 9: but also in other Western developed nations that have made
21:13
Speaker 9: some catastrophic decisions to allow kids under the age of
21:16
Speaker 9: eighteen to mutilate their bodies and allow adults to permit
21:20
Speaker 9: them to do it. It's tragic when you talk to
21:22
Speaker 9: the parents that have stood by their kids and sort
21:25
Speaker 9: of thought that this was the only path forward. They
21:28
Speaker 9: are very regretful, not only the kids but the parents
21:30
Speaker 9: as well.
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Speaker 2: There needs to be an inquiry well, and no Liberals
21:35
Speaker 2: should be scared of finding out the facts. No Liberal
21:38
Speaker 2: should be scared of listening to experts. Let's leave it there,
21:40
Speaker 2: just do a quick one. Dan Stephen Jones, he's leaving.
21:43
Speaker 2: We've got Bill shorton now. Linda Bernie, Brendan O'Connor. I
21:47
Speaker 2: get on the opposition side, people will move, you know,
21:49
Speaker 2: they get into opposition from government and they're not sure
21:51
Speaker 2: whether they can do another stint. But these guys have
21:54
Speaker 2: waited ten years to get back into power. They're in
21:58
Speaker 2: power and these folks are all wanting to leave after
22:02
Speaker 2: basically a turn. What does that tell you about the
22:05
Speaker 2: government's chances at the next election.
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Speaker 1: Well, it shows that the jumping ship, I think is
22:13
Speaker 1: a pretty negative assessment, you'd have to say, and actions
22:16
Speaker 1: always speak louder than words. And you know, if you're
22:18
Speaker 1: staring down the barrel of potentially being turfed out after
22:21
Speaker 1: one term or at best a minority government, when you're
22:24
Speaker 1: going to have one arm tied behind your back like
22:26
Speaker 1: they did from twenty ten to twenty thirteen, I don't
22:28
Speaker 1: think it's surprising, and I actually suspect that we'll see
22:31
Speaker 1: a number more come out over the next few weeks.
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Speaker 2: Peter, Yeah, I think you're right. Other than Linda Bernie,
22:38
Speaker 2: and I think I'm right here. Other than Linda Bernie,
22:40
Speaker 2: almost every single one of them lived the last hung parliament.
22:44
Speaker 2: I suspect they want nothing to do with that again. Gens.
22:47
Speaker 2: Thank you. All right, let's return to the issue of
22:50
Speaker 2: the escalating terror threat, not just in New South will
22:52
Speaker 2: As of course, but right across the country. Something has
22:55
Speaker 2: to be done. Chris Mins. Yes, he's been strong the
22:59
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, though woefully apathetic even today offering just platitudes
23:04
Speaker 2: and taking potshots at the coalition.
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Speaker 6: This is a time for unity and for the country
23:12
Speaker 6: to come together against these atrocities and this appalling acts.
23:17
Speaker 6: Not a time to look for political partisanship or to
23:21
Speaker 6: make political points. I don't intend to do so.
23:26
Speaker 2: Joined me, someone who dealt with a whole lot of
23:28
Speaker 2: terror events in his time as Prime Minister, Tony Abbott. Tony,
23:31
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. I have to say I
23:34
Speaker 2: thought that was very wrong with the Prime Minister to
23:39
Speaker 2: decry the lack of bipartisanship on this issue, when in
23:44
Speaker 2: fact he is the one that has driven the division,
23:47
Speaker 2: particularly at the United Nations, after seventy years of bipartisanship
23:52
Speaker 2: on the issue of Israel.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's a very good point.
23:58
Speaker 11: Petter.
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Speaker 10: Government for the first time is consistently voting against Israel
24:05
Speaker 10: at the United Nations, and I just wish more.
24:09
Speaker 2: Labor people would remember.
24:10
Speaker 10: Bob Hawk's immortal statement, if the bell tolls for Israel,
24:14
Speaker 10: it doesn't just toll for Israel, it tolls for all mankind.
24:19
Speaker 10: As the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. If
24:23
Speaker 10: Israel is damaged and diminished, democracy everywhere is damaged and diminished.
24:30
Speaker 10: And frankly, this is a government that from the beginning
24:34
Speaker 10: has constantly tried to diminish and minimize the wave of
24:39
Speaker 10: due hatred that has been sweeping our country since October seven.
24:46
Speaker 10: The PM and his ministers have tended to see a
24:50
Speaker 10: campaign of vicious race hate against one section of the
24:53
Speaker 10: community as mere political protest, and they've seen fire bombings
24:59
Speaker 10: of which we've had several now almost like vandalism, as
25:04
Speaker 10: opposed to the domestic terrorism, which is what it clearly is.
25:11
Speaker 2: Just on that point, let me pick up the comments
25:12
Speaker 2: made by the Treasurer of this morning on breakfast television,
25:16
Speaker 2: because he said, you know, speaking of the caravan and
25:19
Speaker 2: the explosive this shows that the concerns of Jews aren't
25:22
Speaker 2: always unfounded. Now he says it's a gaff. He says,
25:27
Speaker 2: the words are clumsy. It feels like a fraudy and
25:30
Speaker 2: slip to me, basically intimating that the Jews are making
25:35
Speaker 2: it up, or that they've got the propensity to make
25:38
Speaker 2: this up. Now a synagogue is either burnt down or
25:41
Speaker 2: it's not. You know, there's graffiti on the fence or
25:43
Speaker 2: there's not. Cars are bombed or they're not. We've seen
25:46
Speaker 2: this as a matter of fact. How does it get
25:49
Speaker 2: away with that?
25:52
Speaker 10: Look, if this were just a one off, I guess
25:56
Speaker 10: you could dismiss it as an inappropriate choice of words.
26:01
Speaker 10: But from the beginning the government has been minimizing the
26:06
Speaker 10: seriousness of this. It doesn't really want to respond forcefully
26:12
Speaker 10: to what is just an outrageous, an appalling outbreak of
26:18
Speaker 10: due hatred in a country which has always been a
26:22
Speaker 10: haven and a sanctuary for people of the Jewish faith
26:27
Speaker 10: and culture, particularly since the Holocaust. And you can understand
26:32
Speaker 10: why a lot of Jewish people now wonder whether they
26:36
Speaker 10: really are safe in countries like Australia, and why more
26:41
Speaker 10: than ever, they are looking to Israel as their sole
26:45
Speaker 10: garrant tor that this can never happen again.
26:51
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the National Security Committee of Cabinet, because
26:57
Speaker 2: it was a huge instrument for you to bring the
27:00
Speaker 2: officials together with the ministers and stop the boats, deal
27:04
Speaker 2: with Islamic State and all the other terror challenges, the
27:07
Speaker 2: lind siege that we had in Australia. What concerns me
27:11
Speaker 2: when I look at the Prime Minister and I look
27:12
Speaker 2: at whether or not he's using the apparatus that's there.
27:16
Speaker 2: He didn't have the AFP on there. He kicked them off.
27:18
Speaker 2: He didn't have ASIO our intelligence spy agency just domestic one.
27:23
Speaker 2: Didn't have them there. Kick them off. They are back now.
27:25
Speaker 2: But belatedly he's not calling the meetings that you used
27:29
Speaker 2: to call. Within sort of an hour of big national events,
27:33
Speaker 2: you'd pull this group together. He's got Chris Bowen in there,
27:37
Speaker 2: the Environment Minister, for whatever reason, I don't know. It
27:41
Speaker 2: seems like he's brought kicking and screaming reluctantly to put
27:44
Speaker 2: these issues in his diary and do what needs to
27:48
Speaker 2: be done. Am I being fair there?
27:54
Speaker 10: Well, Peter, I think there has been a consistent course
27:57
Speaker 10: of conduct on the part of this government to minimize
28:02
Speaker 10: the threats that this country faces. The Prime Minister has
28:06
Speaker 10: refused to call out the Beijing government for its acts
28:12
Speaker 10: of aggression against Australia, including the wounding of Australian sailors
28:17
Speaker 10: in a sonar attack on an Australian warship, attempts to
28:23
Speaker 10: intimidate Australian military aircraft flying in international airspace over the
28:30
Speaker 10: South China Sea. There's been a reluctance to give Ukraine
28:36
Speaker 10: the surplus weaponry that we've got that they could have
28:39
Speaker 10: put to very good use in their fight against Russian aggression,
28:44
Speaker 10: as well as the reluctance to call out what has
28:47
Speaker 10: become a campaign of domestic terrorism against Australian Jews. So
28:52
Speaker 10: I think there's an inability on the part of the
28:56
Speaker 10: current government to see these things clearly for what they are,
29:02
Speaker 10: an assault on our national sovereignty, our integrity, and really
29:10
Speaker 10: on the values that Australian should hold.
29:12
Speaker 2: Dear, just on another topic, I was discussing with my
29:16
Speaker 2: Padel a moment ago. You were one of one hundred
29:19
Speaker 2: public figures and medical experts have signed a national letter
29:23
Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister, to the Opposition leader asking for
29:26
Speaker 2: a national inquiry inter gender affirming care for children. Now,
29:31
Speaker 2: it's interesting. When I was talking to James Ashby, he
29:35
Speaker 2: said there'll be Liberal moderates who won't agree with an inquiry.
29:39
Speaker 2: And I say to you, as someone who's formerly led
29:41
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party, Why would anyone be scared of finding
29:44
Speaker 2: out the facts and the truth from the experts. If
29:47
Speaker 2: we need to change course, let's get the information in.
29:50
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't be scared of a review, should.
29:52
Speaker 10: We, Particularly given that the Cash Review in the United
29:59
Speaker 10: Kingdom which found that there was no evidentiary base for
30:04
Speaker 10: the kind of gender affirming care, the puberty blockers, the
30:10
Speaker 10: surgery effectively the chemical sterilization, and the surgical mutilation of
30:15
Speaker 10: young people. The Cast Review found there was no evidentiary
30:20
Speaker 10: basis for this, and the current UK Labor government has
30:25
Speaker 10: supported the findings of the Cast Review and has maintained
30:29
Speaker 10: the substantial bans on this kind of treatment. So I
30:32
Speaker 10: really think it's simple common sense that we should be
30:37
Speaker 10: incredibly reluctant to allow miners who can't buy cigarettes, who
30:43
Speaker 10: can't buy alcohol, who can't vote, who can't drive a
30:46
Speaker 10: car legally, we should be incredibly reluctant to let these
30:51
Speaker 10: miners opt to do themselves what is potentially irreparable damage
30:58
Speaker 10: that they may well later regret. I just think this
31:03
Speaker 10: is wrong in principle and crazy in practice, what we've
31:07
Speaker 10: allowed in this country over the last few years.
31:12
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you get some movement with your letter
31:14
Speaker 2: turning out, but thank you for your time. All right
31:16
Speaker 2: after the break, the Collition to involved plans for a
31:18
Speaker 2: massive security overhaul given what we've seen in recent months.
31:22
Speaker 2: It's needed, isn't it. Foreign criminals released out of detention,
31:25
Speaker 2: anti Semitism and more. Plus concerns today are increasing about
31:30
Speaker 2: the apparent AI arms race with China. More on that
31:34
Speaker 2: soon coming up, more of my special reports into Labour's
31:41
Speaker 2: reckulus reckless renewables only energy plan. Farmers are telling us
31:46
Speaker 2: more and more claims of bullying and corruption, and I've
31:49
Speaker 2: got some information for you tonight on the cost of
31:52
Speaker 2: decommissioning those massive wind turbines. It's extraordinary the verse. Right now,
31:58
Speaker 2: the Shadow Home Faires Minister, Senator James Patterson is delivering
32:02
Speaker 2: a keynote speech outlining the Coalition's plans for a massive
32:05
Speaker 2: security overhaul should they win the next election. Among the
32:09
Speaker 2: key policies are plans to deport high risk offenders, return
32:13
Speaker 2: all security agencies and frontline staff to the Department of
32:16
Speaker 2: Home Affairs, restore TPVs temporary protection visas labors scrap them
32:21
Speaker 2: of course, and improve the resourcing of Operation Sovereign Borders,
32:26
Speaker 2: which is basically all but shut up shop under labor.
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Speaker 2: Johnnyan now for his analysis and all of this, Director
32:31
Speaker 2: of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Suebridge. Well, there'll be a
32:35
Speaker 2: few more sweetness and information in a senator's speech tonight.
32:40
Speaker 2: But Michael, broadly from what we've heard today from Senator
32:44
Speaker 2: Patterson from the coalition, what do you think of these
32:47
Speaker 2: plan changes?
32:49
Speaker 11: Well, Peter, I think it's very refreshing to hear someone
32:53
Speaker 11: who might be in government soon saying that they will
32:56
Speaker 11: take urgent and serious action on terrorism and border security,
33:03
Speaker 11: because what we're seeing from mister Albinisi and members of
33:07
Speaker 11: his cabinet like Deputy Prime Minister Miles, is in action
33:12
Speaker 11: and they're spending all their time telling us what they
33:15
Speaker 11: won't let us know and why it's right they don't
33:17
Speaker 11: tell us anything and falsely reassuring the public. So the
33:22
Speaker 11: contrast is mister Patterson is saying this is a time
33:27
Speaker 11: for urgency and action, and we're hearing from the government
33:31
Speaker 11: that it's business as usual and drift.
33:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, I know, I know this caravan came to
33:38
Speaker 2: light about ten days ago, but the public has only
33:41
Speaker 2: known about in the last twenty four hours. So we've
33:43
Speaker 2: got a heightened anxiety about it. Right now. I cast
33:46
Speaker 2: my mind back to sort of the Tony Abbottor and
33:48
Speaker 2: the John Howard era. If that had come to light,
33:51
Speaker 2: there would have been a press conference in Canberra. They
33:54
Speaker 2: would have reassured us that the National Cabinet had met,
33:56
Speaker 2: they would have gone through the steps that are taken
33:59
Speaker 2: to make more secure, that'd give us an update on
34:02
Speaker 2: the terror rating, all the stuff you'd expect from your
34:05
Speaker 2: national government. Today we get the Prime Minister standing in
34:08
Speaker 2: front of some books at a kid's library, looking like
34:11
Speaker 2: it was just a bit of an issue along with
34:14
Speaker 2: a busy day of stuff that is trying to do
34:17
Speaker 2: to win votes or secure margin or seats. It didn't
34:20
Speaker 2: have the gravity that I want to see from a
34:24
Speaker 2: Prime minister when you have what amounts to be the
34:27
Speaker 2: precursors to a mass casualty terror attack in Australia.
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Speaker 11: Yes, and the caravan full of explosives wasn't found due
34:39
Speaker 11: to forensic investigation by police or counter terrorism agencies. Was
34:44
Speaker 11: found by a concerned local farmer. So it was tripped
34:48
Speaker 11: over by the government. And then they tried to tell
34:52
Speaker 11: us that even though they don't really know who was
34:55
Speaker 11: planning it or what they were doing, and who's involved
34:59
Speaker 11: that there is no continuing threat. That's false reassurance. They
35:03
Speaker 11: cannot know there is no continuing threat, and telling the
35:07
Speaker 11: public that it was best that we not hear about
35:10
Speaker 11: this only creates more anxiety and uncertainty.
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Speaker 2: I could not agree more, particularly what they want Australians
35:18
Speaker 2: to call Terra hotlines and to keep their eyes open.
35:21
Speaker 2: And they're basically trying to treat us like mushrooms. Hey,
35:24
Speaker 2: we talked about deep Seek. This is this Chinese AI
35:27
Speaker 2: app for people at home, a lot like chat. GPT
35:31
Speaker 2: Labour's Special Envoy for cybersecurity is basically said, look, if
35:35
Speaker 2: it's a problem, we'll do what we're going to do
35:37
Speaker 2: with TikTok. We'll just tell a public service to take
35:40
Speaker 2: it off their work phones, not their home phones, not
35:43
Speaker 2: anywhere else they might use it. They don't have a
35:46
Speaker 2: strategy for it. They're just going to say the public
35:47
Speaker 2: servants please don't use it now. Given what the United
35:51
Speaker 2: States has done to something like TikTok, and it's a
35:54
Speaker 2: hell of a lot more than just telling the public
35:56
Speaker 2: servants get it off your phone. Surely we've got to
35:59
Speaker 2: take threat seriously.
36:02
Speaker 3: Exactly this.
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Speaker 11: If there is a security issue with this Chinese AI model,
36:08
Speaker 11: then it's as big for companies and citizens in Australia
36:14
Speaker 11: as it is for a bunch of bureaucrats. So for
36:17
Speaker 11: the cybersecurity endvoid to say it's okay, we'll reduce the
36:20
Speaker 11: risk to public servants but leave businesses and citizens hung
36:25
Speaker 11: out to dry is completely wrong headed.
36:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm disappointed all of that. It's going to be
36:32
Speaker 2: an issue. It's a massive issue. Michael Shubrich, thank you.
36:35
Speaker 2: Now have to break more in my investigation into reckless renewables.
36:38
Speaker 2: Farmer's vowing to keep fighting blast Donald Trump wasting no
36:42
Speaker 2: time targeting illegal immigration. Now his latest order, it's extraordinary,
36:48
Speaker 2: is talking about Guantanamo Bay welcome back. Still to come
36:56
Speaker 2: the fiery confirmation hearing for rfk JR. Both immogcrats and
37:00
Speaker 2: Republicans raising concerns. So will he be confirmed. We'll get
37:04
Speaker 2: to that at a moment. The first last night I
37:06
Speaker 2: brought you the second part of my special report into
37:09
Speaker 2: Labour's reckless renewables only agenda. And it's been the maled
37:13
Speaker 2: region of Victoria where I've spent most of my time
37:15
Speaker 2: in recent weeks. On the ground with farmers and communities
37:20
Speaker 2: that are hurting. Joining me now out with the federal
37:22
Speaker 2: MP for that region, nationals MP, the member for Mali
37:26
Speaker 2: and Webster, and thank you. Look. I also want to
37:30
Speaker 2: say to my viewers from the outset. You know, as
37:32
Speaker 2: I've been driving up the Malle plenty of time in
37:34
Speaker 2: the car, you and I have spoken often. I know
37:37
Speaker 2: you've been on the ground. I know you've had many
37:40
Speaker 2: town hall meetings, and almost all the farmers I spoke
37:43
Speaker 2: to are appreciative that you've been out there fighting for them.
37:46
Speaker 2: So you know, as I put this to air, I
37:48
Speaker 2: was shocked at the intimidation and the police being called,
37:53
Speaker 2: and the bullying and corruption allegations involved. How much of
37:57
Speaker 2: that had you heard?
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Speaker 12: Unfortunately I've been hearing it for some time, and Peter,
38:04
Speaker 12: can I just say thank you. I join with all
38:07
Speaker 12: the farmers, Glendon and Tessen, Alex and Ben who all
38:10
Speaker 12: spoke with you, to thank you that for coming to Malie.
38:14
Speaker 12: We so often do not get air coverage unless it's
38:17
Speaker 12: from Sky, and they really appreciate you telling their story.
38:22
Speaker 12: It is our experience. I hear allegations, threat of threats
38:27
Speaker 12: and bullying. Cowboy proponents who are trying to set up
38:32
Speaker 12: wind farms all over Malie, regardless of how it impacts
38:38
Speaker 12: neighbors and the others who live in that community. And
38:41
Speaker 12: so communities, as you would have heard, have become really
38:46
Speaker 12: a little discordant, to say the least.
38:48
Speaker 2: There is a lot of upset.
38:50
Speaker 12: And the meeting that I spoke at the other night
38:53
Speaker 12: when around Mali Environmental and Agricultural I've got to get
38:59
Speaker 12: right protect Alliance is a new meeting for me. About
39:04
Speaker 12: two hundred people were they're all voicing their views. The
39:07
Speaker 12: absolute majority do not want these wind farms and they certainly,
39:13
Speaker 12: in fact, they don't want to call them wind farms.
39:15
Speaker 12: They want to call them wind factories. I think industrial
39:18
Speaker 12: estates is a better terminology myself. And they certainly do
39:22
Speaker 12: not want the V and I West. And you know,
39:24
Speaker 12: in fact, as you would have heard as well, over
39:26
Speaker 12: ninety percent of farmers who have now been chosen to
39:30
Speaker 12: host the V and I West refusing to allow TWCV
39:35
Speaker 12: onto their properties.
39:37
Speaker 2: And I just say, you know, good on them.
39:39
Speaker 12: This is democracy at work, and the state government is
39:42
Speaker 12: absolutely ignoring them, and they will compulsory acquire their land.
39:48
Speaker 12: What happens to our food security in the future.
39:53
Speaker 2: And so people hope I remind them again this is
39:55
Speaker 2: a V and I West is a transmission line from
39:57
Speaker 2: city to Melbourne. It won't benefit these re It's all
40:00
Speaker 2: about power, green power, so called green power for city
40:03
Speaker 2: in Melbourne and of course all the way along. It
40:05
Speaker 2: creates a spine through regional communities for the economics of
40:10
Speaker 2: wind farms, foreign owned wind farms to work, because you
40:13
Speaker 2: can have a wind farm, but you've got to get
40:15
Speaker 2: the power it generates to the market via these transmission lines.
40:20
Speaker 2: And what's interesting, originally it was meant to go through
40:24
Speaker 2: just into Allen, the Victorian premiers electorate, but it's all
40:27
Speaker 2: been shifted into your electorate. And the inference that people
40:31
Speaker 2: have given me is that you're a safe National Party seat.
40:36
Speaker 2: You know, you're expendable. The National Party is expendable. Those people,
40:40
Speaker 2: those farmers in your region are expendable. But this is
40:44
Speaker 2: also driven by Anthony Albanesi and Chris Bowen's obsession about
40:48
Speaker 2: getting to these targets for twenty thirty. Can we please
40:53
Speaker 2: have a rethink about a renewables only electricity grit.
41:01
Speaker 12: Well, we have to and I know, as you know
41:05
Speaker 12: as well, that the Coalition is definitely looking at a
41:09
Speaker 12: mixed grid and nuclear is part of that footprint more
41:12
Speaker 12: gas and therefore I would argue less reason to I
41:18
Speaker 12: was going to use a bad word there, but obliterate
41:21
Speaker 12: our farm land for these transmission lines and there's wind turbines.
41:25
Speaker 12: I drove past Marawara in the little desert smoke haze
41:30
Speaker 12: yesterday morning, and I tell you it just is eerie.
41:34
Speaker 2: It's not just the smoke.
41:35
Speaker 12: It is the fact that all this industrial equipment is
41:38
Speaker 12: sitting on land that has for seven generations been farming
41:42
Speaker 12: for Australia and for the world.
41:44
Speaker 2: These farmers want to keep.
41:45
Speaker 12: Doing that, and they are feeling less and less confident,
41:49
Speaker 12: and it's just got to stop. They're not being heard.
41:55
Speaker 2: And I heard that the cost of decommissioning these towers
41:58
Speaker 2: one turbine alone something like six hundred thousand dollars. Now
42:02
Speaker 2: this will be left to farmers, not the foreign companies,
42:05
Speaker 2: to farmers or to taxpayers. I'd love to get you
42:09
Speaker 2: to attend a town meeting with me up there. I'd
42:11
Speaker 2: love to get Ted O'Brien, the Coalition Energy Shadow Minister,
42:16
Speaker 2: there as well, because I think we need to draw
42:18
Speaker 2: attention to the hit to taxpayers and farmers here on
42:23
Speaker 2: just the wind turbines alone.
42:27
Speaker 12: Can I just tell you I would be absolutely thrilled
42:31
Speaker 12: to have that go ahead. And I have been told
42:35
Speaker 12: by Queensland people I won't name them, that the current
42:40
Speaker 12: crop of wind turbines that are being decommissioned are seven
42:44
Speaker 12: hundred and fifty thousand dollars per turbine. So it's worse
42:48
Speaker 12: than you think. And you're right if we've got shelf
42:50
Speaker 12: companies and international investment that has gone walking on these projects,
42:55
Speaker 12: it is absolutely Andrew Dye has said, this is the
42:59
Speaker 12: retired now Australian Energy Commissioner, that it will be left
43:03
Speaker 12: to the land owners to pay.
43:08
Speaker 2: All right, we'll over there, or we'll talk offline and
43:10
Speaker 2: set up a meeting and we'll get Ted O'Brien out
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Speaker 2: there on the ground as well. Thanks An. I would
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Speaker 2: like for the break President Trump's plan to send thousands,
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Speaker 2: thousands of illegal migrants to Guadtanamo Bay, plus the US
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Speaker 2: backs Israel's decision to ban the UNAID Agency UNRA over
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Speaker 2: its links to October seven. Welcome back, let's say to
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Speaker 2: the United States. Now, Donald Trump has announced plans to
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Speaker 2: send thousands of illegal migrants to Guantanamo Bay.
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Speaker 13: Today, I'm also signing an executive order to instruct the
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Speaker 13: Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the
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Speaker 13: thirty thousand person migrant facility at Guantanamo Babel. Some of
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Speaker 13: them are so bad we don't even trust the countries
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Speaker 13: to hold them because we don't want them coming back.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring up Panel Sky and is contributed Koshagada, Past
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Speaker 2: Chair of Parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defensive Committee, Michael Danby, Well, Gittmo, Michael.
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Speaker 2: He's not making around, is he. Thirty thousand beds will
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Speaker 2: be ready. We learned this week about the plane load
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Speaker 2: that he sent to Columbia and there was a toing
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Speaker 2: and fraying with the Colombians. Eventually at Lands he threatened
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Speaker 2: tariffs if they didn't let it land.
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Speaker 14: He's serious, he is, and I think most Americans will
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Speaker 14: support him, like most Australians supported people being housed to
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Speaker 14: a much less bad people than the ones he's talking
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Speaker 14: about in Manison Niru. Now, I can't understand the democratic strategy.
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Speaker 14: I'm with James Carvill stopped defending all of these murderers
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Speaker 14: and rapists and send them to Columbia. Or send them
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Speaker 14: to get I think in the end he won't send
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Speaker 14: thirty thousand there because it's very expensive the house. I'm
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Speaker 14: so far away from the United.
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Speaker 2: States, but we've seen some of the tracking data already.
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Speaker 2: So if this was a presentations at a border pre Trump,
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Speaker 2: it's now like that. I mean, the graph is just
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Speaker 2: literally dropped off. It's extraordinary.
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Speaker 15: And reporters who have been embedded at the border for
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Speaker 15: years and years under multiple presidencies are saying and reporting
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Speaker 15: that they've never seen it that low. It ebbs and flows,
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Speaker 15: it was definitely low in Trump's first term, but this
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Speaker 15: is almost close to zero. There's all this video surfacing
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Speaker 15: of people that have tried to come in, and now
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Speaker 15: borders militarized. There's so many agents there they're running right
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Speaker 15: back and warning.
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Speaker 2: Others don't come in. So that has definitely stemmed the tide.
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Speaker 15: The issue now is the criminal ones and then the
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Speaker 15: ones who aren't violent criminals, but they are criminals because
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Speaker 15: they broke the law to enter, and people who've been
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Speaker 15: there for years and years.
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Speaker 2: That's going to be tougher to do.
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Speaker 15: But he's he's talking about going for that number, and
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Speaker 15: it's anywhere from twenty to forty million people that he's
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Speaker 15: saying he's going to try to get out.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see speak softly and carry a big stick.
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Speaker 2: Could ease it's way before, Hey, talk to me about
45:45
Speaker 2: work from home. The stad's say that there's six percent
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Speaker 2: of public servants only who were turning up to the office.
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Speaker 14: I saw some American congressman holding up a phone. He'd
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Speaker 14: been on it for an hour and a half and
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Speaker 14: no one would answer it particular department. It's I mean,
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Speaker 14: if there's only six percent in their vast corridors. I've
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Speaker 14: seen those public service buildings in Washington, they've got to
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Speaker 14: turn up to work or lose their jobs.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's saying that he's going to pay them, ount
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Speaker 2: get rid of them, make the public service smaller, drain
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Speaker 2: the swamp. It's all a good thing. Hey, yeah, very quickly.
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Speaker 2: There's been an invitation to Prime Minister net Yahoo to
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Speaker 2: come to Washington, and I'm looking at the date. It's
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Speaker 2: imminence next week.
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Speaker 15: That's one issue where Trump, well, he's broken from byt
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Speaker 15: On on every issue, but in this one here is
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Speaker 15: a staunch ally.
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Speaker 2: He's shored that up.
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Speaker 15: In terms of meeta any aid removing bands on different
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Speaker 15: missiles and weapons and so on and so forth. So
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Speaker 15: this just sort of adds to the optical side of
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Speaker 15: it that he's standing shoulder to shoulder with him and
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Speaker 15: he's leaning into that strategy.
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Speaker 2: I'm just told of my year from Sydney that we've
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Speaker 2: got to pix. I think the release of more hostages
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Speaker 2: is imminent. When that happens, we'll take those pictures live.
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Speaker 2: That is a good day, although my skin crawls when
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Speaker 2: I look at some of the people the hostages have
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Speaker 2: to walk past, and some who will be let out
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Speaker 2: of the prisons.
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Speaker 14: Michael shocking. But netanyao is meeting with Trump will be
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Speaker 14: watched in Tehran very closely, because, unlike the ABC, both
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Speaker 14: the Ayatollas and Trump understand that this has been a
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Speaker 14: seven front war orchestrated by Tehran. It's not just Gaza,
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Speaker 14: those terrible scenes that we're talking about in Gaza releasing
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Speaker 14: those hostages and making use of them. The Iranians remember
47:28
Speaker 14: two facts that Trump knows very well. One that all
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Speaker 14: of Iranzi Defense were destroyed in October, and there's a
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Speaker 14: squadron of heavy bombers sitting in Qatar in the American
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Speaker 14: air base there with the big bombs that can destroy
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Speaker 14: the nuclear facilities in Iran. So all that Donald has
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Speaker 14: to do is agree with that. When that happens. I'm
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Speaker 14: not saying it will that they will agree to it,
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Speaker 14: but they have that option.
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Speaker 2: He's also called out Kosher. He's also called out this
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Speaker 2: sense that the I've lost my train thought completely going out,
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Speaker 2: let's go to RFK Junior. What's that meaning?
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Speaker 15: So that was a very interesting hearing. I think it's
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Speaker 15: a little bit on a knife's edge because he can
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Speaker 15: afford to lose three senators, not four, and there is
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Speaker 15: one more Republican, Cassidy, who seem to not like his
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Speaker 15: answer on certain substantive questions, so that's going to be
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Speaker 15: interesting to see. On the other hand, there are some
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Speaker 15: Democrats who he's been lifetime friends with who might come over,
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Speaker 15: so we'll see.
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Speaker 3: You've got a lot of vision funnel.
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Speaker 14: Is it like a done deal? Vote against it?
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Speaker 15: It seems to be that way for all the four
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Speaker 15: controversial ones. That's what everybody's expecting. So he can't lose anymore.
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Speaker 2: In Caroline Kennedy, what was that about?
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Speaker 15: So I'm not a fan in general on a human level,
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Speaker 15: of airing family laundry out in public. It was unbecoming.
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Speaker 15: And the thing is, the American people know what time
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Speaker 15: it is right now. They don't care about checker pasts
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Speaker 15: in their personal lives with any of these candidates, him
48:48
Speaker 15: or hexed Trump himself. They want serious people who have
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Speaker 15: vision to reform these agencies, and he takes.
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Speaker 2: That box to a lot of them. I remember what
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Speaker 2: my question was that you were talking there about around
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Speaker 2: in the area. Trump is alive to the fact that
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Speaker 2: most Arab countries in their region are not wanting to
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Speaker 2: take any of these refugees, so called refugees out of Gaza.
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Speaker 2: They do not want the gardens in their borders. We
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Speaker 2: saw that very early on with the Egyptians and others.
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Speaker 2: And he's calling on them to do more heavy lifting
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Speaker 2: in the region. That will expose exactly the play that's
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Speaker 2: going on that no one in the region settle. Countries
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Speaker 2: with their Islamic populations in Czech do not want these radicals,
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Speaker 2: do they, Michael.
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Speaker 14: Well, they don't.
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Speaker 2: They fear them. And they could here though.
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Speaker 14: Given what's happened in Lebanon in the nineteen nineties, given
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Speaker 14: what happened in Jordan in the nineteen seventies. So it's
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Speaker 14: very revealing. But again you'll never hear it in the
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Speaker 14: narrative from our billion dollar paid ABC. You've just got
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Speaker 14: John Lyons over there sympathetically interviewing people who are prisoners.
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Speaker 14: Doesn't ask them what their sentences were or what they
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Speaker 14: were for, you know, murder of seven people. Oh are
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Speaker 14: you released prisoners?
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Speaker 2: And the Prime minister, you know your side of politics,
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Speaker 2: still will not rule out these prisoners, these prisoners ending
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Speaker 2: up in Austry.
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Speaker 14: He should rule it out because it makes the Australia.
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Speaker 2: He tells me everything. Michael, gotta lave it there. Prince
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Speaker 2: Harry too is headed back to court, his visas being challenged.
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Speaker 2: This will be interesting. I don't suspect the Royal founily
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Speaker 2: put him back. That's it, see you next week. He's
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Speaker 2: Andrew