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MINI SCROLL: James Charles Spirit Airlines update, Jools Lebron call out, SAINT SATINE concerns + Call Alex Mommy · Mini Scroll

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  Coming up today on Mini Scroll, the Spirit Airlines employee
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  speaks out about the James Charles scandal.
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  Jules LeBron calls out Tana Mojo, there's backlash over
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  Hibes new Cat's Eye adjacent girl group and Alex Cooper's
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  rebrand to call her mommy. Hi everyone, welcome to Mini
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  Scroll, the daily Internet culture podcast bringing you the
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  biggest stories from social media, the creator economy and
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  the digital space. Every Monday through Thursday
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  and sometimes Fridays. I'm your host Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the Australian youth digital media brand
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  Centennial World. Welcome back to Mini school
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  everyone. I hope you had a good weekend
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  and I hope you enjoyed the deep dive.
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  I'm very excited to be back on a regular mini scroll schedule for
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  you guys today and I have 4 stories for saying thank you for
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  bearing with us at the end of last week.
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  Also, I will be recording a Patreon after this about how I
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  feel like I'm in my flop era. So if you guys want to hear more
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  about behind the scenes of Centennial and my mental health,
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  subscribe. OK, let's get into the stories
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  for today. The first story that I have for
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  you guys today is the laid off Spirit Airlines employee at the
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  center of the James Charles scandal has spoken out.
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  So the woman who was allegedly on the receiving end of the
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  James Charles Spirit Airlines DM crash out has come forward to
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  share her side of the story. Her name is Amber Linda Vargas
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  and she messaged James Charles asking if he would contribute to
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  her GoFundMe after she lost her job at Spirit Airlines.
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  So at the end of last week, she posted content about this
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  explaining what happened from her perspective.
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  And she actually has since deleted the video.
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  But of course there are countless news stories and like
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  reposts and stuff on TikTok. So I will post some clips from
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  that. But in her video, she
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  essentially says she does not accept James Charles's apology.
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  I'm the girl that James Charles talked about in that video.
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  Everybody's been asking for a video and I haven't been able to
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  make it because of a few reasons.
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  One be my anxiety. I have really bad anxiety,
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  really bad anxiety. But you know, I tend to talk
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  myself out of a lot of things. I was able to talk myself into
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  this, have my iPad with me. I don't have anything really
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  written down. I'm just gonna scroll and answer
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  questions. Do I accept his apology?
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  So I'm just gonna answer it right together?
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  Hell no. I don't accept his apology.
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  Especially because he was very publicly with what he said.
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  And then you thought it was OK to message me privately.
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  No. So he did message me.
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  Here's a screenshot. Don't accept it.
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  Did you respond to his apology? I sure the hell did not.
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  OK so since Amber came out, Internet sluice found her
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  GoFundMe and they discovered that she was trying to raise
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  $1600 not 16,000, not 160,000, but 1600.
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  So yes, while there still is a very valid conversation around
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  what influencers quote UN quote owe us and what we can expect
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  from them, the fact that James crashed out this hard and ruined
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  his reputation again totally embarrassed this woman over
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  $1600 or less. Like she was just asking if he
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  would contribute to it. Which honestly for James is
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  probably what he makes in less than an hour.
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  If you think about the fact that he makes millions of dollars a
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  year, $1600 is probably what he is making on average an hour,
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  maybe even more. Like I really did not need to be
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  like this. Again, I'm not saying he's under
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  any obligation to contribute. Like whether he can or cannot
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  afford that is not the point. It's the fact that he blew up
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  like this so publicly. Also I forgot to mention last
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  week he actually did make a video addressing the situation
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  before his quote UN quote apology where he was doubling
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  down. He obviously has since deleted
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  that video and then he issued his like proper quote, UN quote
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  apology. But he initially made a video
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  doubling down. I stand behind what I said 10
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  toes down and now a lot of content creators are using like
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  the five second clip in the very beginning where I'm like, you're
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  a lazy piece of shit. Get a new job to upload their
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  cute little thing pieces. Be like influencers are all so
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  out of touch. This is so disgusting.
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  You don't know how hard it is in the job market these days.
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  Oh my God, give me a fucking break.
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  I am out of touch first and foremost.
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  OK? I am never going to be one of
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  those influencers that gets online and pretends to be poor
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  so I can come across as relatable to my audience.
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  I think it's hockey, I think it's annoying and I also think
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  it's quite insulting to the audience watching, as if you
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  guys are going to be fooled into thinking that you've been
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  watching me for 10 years now. It's no secret that I have been
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  able to find success doing what I've done.
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  It didn't start that way though. I started from literally nothing
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  and had a dream for myself and was determined to literally do
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  anything to make it happen and luckily I've been blessed to be
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  able to do that. And now call this by full time
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  job. The reason I made that video
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  yesterday though was a lot of people these days do not have to
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  make it work mentality. They have no desire to actually
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  put in the effort to try to fix a problem and get themselves out
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  of a situation. They immediately result in
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  asking for help. And don't get me wrong, I don't
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  think there's anything wrong with asking for help.
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  In my personal opinion though, it should be a last resort.
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  OK so James allegedly sent this message to Amber.
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  She shared this in her video. Hi Amber, I wanted to reach out
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  privately with an apology for the video I made.
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  It was disgraceful and completely unnecessary and there
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  is no excuse for me yelling and berating someone for asking for
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  help in a shitty situation that was completely out of your
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  control. I'm so sorry for adding to what
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  was already a distressing time. I'm so ashamed for most only the
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  video, but also for being so disgustingly out of touch.
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  I was sent to your video today and I was so glad to see your
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  GoFundMe has exploded. And I also know that getting
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  attention online can be scary and overwhelming, especially
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  when you never asked for it in the first place.
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  I've spent the last few days reading stories from real people
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  about what it's actually like losing a job without notice and
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  also learning about the journey to find a new one when so many
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  people are going through the same situation.
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  I've just donated to your GoFundMe but also please know
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  I'm here if there's anything else I can help with or do.
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  Also fully understand if you never want to hear from me
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  again. I genuinely wish you all the
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  best and hope you're doing OK. All right, so after all of this,
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  his follower count has really come into question.
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  People have been tracking his follower count and a lot of
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  people believe that he seems to be buying followers amid this
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  mess because essentially his follower count will go up and
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  down by like 100,000 followers and like be fluctuating around
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  that. OK, he started at like 40.8
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  million and then he was down to like 40.2 million and then he
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  was back up to 40.3 million. So they're like, OK, is he
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  buying 100,000 followers? According to Social Blade, he
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  actually lost 600,000 followers last week, but the data is days
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  and days behind. So I can't really see if he's
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  been buying followers this weekend.
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  However, I would suggest what's probably happening here is he's
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  not buying like 100,000 followers at a time.
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  He's probably right on the line of being like under 40.3 million
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  and then he like loses A follower and then he gains A
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  follower so he goes back up. Like I don't think he'd be
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  buying followers because he knows everybody would be like
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  tracking that right now. But either way, his follower
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  count in general is in question because what do you mean 40
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  million people are following James Charles on TikTok?
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  Like Taylor Swift has 33 million followers on TikTok.
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  And I know that James obviously posts like way more than Taylor,
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  but regardless, like James Charles is so much less relevant
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  than Taylor Swift. He actually hasn't really been
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  relevant in like years and years in a meaningful way.
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  So the fact that he has 40 million followers in general is
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  like crazy. Now, the other development in
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  this is people have been reposting the TikTok he made in
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  January 2025, right when TikTok was about to get banned in the
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  US. So in this video, he's crying
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  and he's talking about how sad he is, and he's talking about
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  how it's been like a really positive platform for him and
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  his career. It's really the first platform
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  that I've I feel like I've been able to be myself.
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  So people are like, bro, when you're about to lose your job,
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  it's fine to make like public call outs, trying to garner
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  sympathy and trying to get people to follow you to
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  different platforms like expressing distress over losing
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  an element of your career. But when somebody loses what I
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  presume would be her entire source of income, her entire
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  career, her whole full time job, then you go off and crash out
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  when she reaches out and asks for a donation to her go fund
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  me. Now after some reflection, I
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  think the reason why James made this initial video is because he
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  thought that it would be seen as like iconic and hilarious and I
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  think he thought it would get him positive attention.
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  I know that sounds kind of crazy, but he has been posting
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  these insane crash outs on TikTok for like a year or two
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  now and for the most part, they've been met with like kind
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  of positive reception. I feel like it has somewhat
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  changed the public's perception of James because people are
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  seeing him as kind of like snarky and savage and unhinged
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  and like that's a better reputation than the reputation
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  that he has had online for the last like, what, 7 years?
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  People are always using his crash at the sounds.
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  He's turned into this like, larger than life caricature
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  where people are laughing with him for the first time in a long
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  time time instead of like at him.
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  And I think the first video that really popped off like this was
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  when he was crashing out over Trump.
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  And he was like, we are so fucked.
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  And nobody seems to care. Like that video, everybody used
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  it. Everybody was like, Oh my God,
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  yes. James.
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  Like you tell him like James is iconic for this.
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  Like maybe he's not so bad, like, you know, whatever.
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  And that really started to change the public perception of
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  him. And so then he started posting
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  more and more unhinged, like, angry, snarky, crazy content
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  like this. And I feel like he thought that
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  this video was doing that. I really think he thought like,
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  OK, so many people have lost their jobs now, which he
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  obviously states in the first video, like he is aware of that.
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  So I think he thought that people would be on his side
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  where he's like, stop asking for handouts.
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  Like, everybody's in the same position.
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  Like, I think he thought that people would rally around that
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  opinion. I don't know.
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  That's my opinion on this. I really think that this was for
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  views. I think he holds that belief.
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  Like I do believe, you know, when there's a switch up that
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  quickly. I don't really think behind the
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  scenes that the influencer is genuinely always reflecting and
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  learning that quickly. Maybe sometimes.
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  But I think because he doubled down initially and then when it
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  became like mainstream news, he apologized.
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  I do think behind the scenes he's probably talking to his
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  team and just being like, what the actual fuck, But I think the
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  initial intention was he was thinking like, oh, this is going
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  to be relatable. Like people are going to die for
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  this anyways. In related news, Jules LeBron
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  has called out an unnamed influencer in relation to the
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  James Charles scandal. So Jules LeBron, a very demure,
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  very mindful fame, has made a video in response to an unnamed
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  influencer who was dragging James Charles for this situation
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  despite allegedly offering to pay for Jules's top surgery at
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  one point and then ghosting her. I think I don't I don't think
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  you get to slam dunk James Charles.
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  You don't make a video be like, you should give back to people
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  who follow. You should get back to your
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  fans. And then when you offered to pay
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  for my top surgery, you ghosted me on it.
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  I don't think that that's how that works.
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  Like you don't like, even though I have a following like when we
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  became mutuals and you do that. I I followed you for years and
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  you were the reason that I started YouTube videos and you
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  were like the person that saved my life and all this shit.
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  And I told you this and you're like, if you need anything,
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  babe, I will get. I want to pay for your top
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  surgery. I want to pay for your
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  transition and then you ghost me on it.
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  You don't get to slam dunk James Charles.
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  I'm sorry. I don't think that's how that
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  works, I just work here, but I could be wrong.
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  Now everyone is convinced that she is talking about Tana Mojo
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  in this. Apparently Tana talked about
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  this on not Loveline. Apparently she also commented
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  publicly on Jules's social media at one point.
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  And this was like before Tana was sober.
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  So on Reddit people are like, I think she probably like doesn't
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  remember that she offered this. So somebody wrote she commented
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  on one of Jules's TikTok saying she'd be happy to pay for it
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  about two years ago. I remember seeing the comment
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  and thinking oh that's not going to happen.
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  It was during her not sober era. Someone else wrote it's because
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  she offered to pay and got praise slash clout for it and
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  never followed through. If Tana never offered this would
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  be a non issue. The expectation comes from Tana
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  making the offer. Also this person has a bit of a
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  following and made vulnerable videos talking about dysphoria
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  and other issues. So if Tana publicly offered to
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  pay for the surgery it's just slimy to ghost the person.
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  So Jules has actually deleted this video and I assume will not
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  confirm or deny if it's Tana Mojo, but everyone online is
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  absolutely convinced it is. All right.
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  The next story that I have for you guys today is Hybe and
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  Geffen. The joint venture behind Cat's
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  Eye has unveiled its latest global girl group, St.
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  Satine. St.
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  Satine, is that how you say it, St.
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  Satine? Annabelle confirms.
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  Also, she did tell me it's Hybe, not Hybee.
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  And I keep saying Hybee and apparently you guys are
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  commenting. Annabelle's the one that's like
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  deep in the comments. I will skim the comments, but
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  like, as somebody who posts a daily podcast, if I am like 2 in
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  the weeds of the comments, like it completely destroys my mental
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  health. So yeah, she was like, yeah, you
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  keep saying I be. People are commenting.
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  OK. So the group has four members,
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  three of which came from Dream Academy, which was the survival
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  show to be part of Cat's Eye. The girls who made it in are
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  Emily, Samara and Lexie. The three have been consistently
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  promoting the girl group across social media and at events like
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  Billboard Women in Music, all before their 4th member was even
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  confirmed. The rollout hasn't been without
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  criticism. Many are questioning why
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  management would push the girls to start building public
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  recognition before the lineup was finalized.
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  Social media users are also convinced that the girls have no
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  chemistry after watching them interact in live streams.
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  But that I feel like is subjective.
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  OK, so while all of this was going down, a survival show was
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  airing to find the 4th member called Prelude the final piece.
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  The show featured Japanese contestants, which presumably
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  was an attempt to crack the Japanese Asian market given the
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  group's other three members are from the US, Brazil, and Sweden.
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  It aired entirely in Japanese, so we Slash Annabelle have not
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  watched it, but clipped episodes with English subtitles have been
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  making the rounds online. Last week, the finale episode
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  for the survival show aired, and TikTok has been up in arms ever
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  since. It came down to two finalists.
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  Sakura and Ayana each performed a different song with the group.
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  Sakura had a party before the party while Ayana performed We
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  Ride. The songs had completely
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  different vibes, which many believed was a form of
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  favoritism on behalf of the judges and executives putting
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  the group together. OK, so there seems to be general
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  consensus that Ayana outperformed Sakura, but it was
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  Sakura who ultimately won the show.
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  TikTok users aren't just upset about Ayana being like quote UN
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  quote robbed though. They are also uncomfortable with
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  the fact that Sakura is a minor and significantly younger than
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  the rest of the girls in the group.
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  So for contact, she is 16 while Lexi is 21 and Samara and Emily
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  are 20. Ayana was 19, so that would have
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  been, you know, a much closer fit in age.
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  And this is not unprecedented for AK Pop girl group to debut
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  with a minor. New Jeans made headlines when
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  they debuted in 2022 with members ranging from 14 to 18.
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  Closer to home, cat size youngest member Yun Che also
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  debuted at 16, but the age gap felt less stark there.
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  The other 3 members were also in their teens and since St.
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  Satine that is such a mouthful. It's more of like a goat global
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  girl group outside of like the K pop system.
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  People are like this is just really icky and we need to stop
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  accepting that they just debut with minors.
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  Like we need to stop allowing this to happen and being
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  accepting of this as a phantom. The more that Korean survival
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  shows become mainstream in the Western audience, the more
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  people are going to notice you guys preferences for minors,
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  especially when you're creating these groups knowing that you're
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  going to give them sexually suggestive songs and
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  choreography. We were robbed.
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  That was a Yana spot. She is the perfect height, she's
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  the perfect age, and she blends in well visually with the girls.
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  Somehow we ended up with Sakura who is 1515 15 going on 16 was
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  161516 and she will be working 14 hour workdays doing
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  choreography like that on stage. Sakura is Hype's latest
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  sacrificial member. Sakura is officially crowned as
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  the last member of Prelude and seeing the reaction, I'm seeing
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  a pattern. 4 out of five group groups that HYPE managers, they
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  always have one member whose image are being sacrificed to
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  start an online discussion so that people start fighting about
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  her. And if you're an influencer, you
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  would know that one of the easiest way to get your video to
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  go viral is to say something that polarizes or to be
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  controversial. Because when people support your
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  risk or especially when people are fighting in your comments,
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  then the algorithm will see all of this engagement and pushes
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  your video more. And so Hype understands this and
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  they always make one member of their girl group to be
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  controversial. On the other hand, Hive is very
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  obsessed with minor, very obsessed with debut minors.
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  I don't know what's their obsession with having to include
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  a minor in the group, but we got to stop.
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  I feel like I think, you know, a lot of these groups will benefit
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  off of having a grown like like a grown like concept, like
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  Destiny's Child type Pussycat Dolls type concept.
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  A lot of a lot of these groups could benefit off of a concept
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  like that. But no, they always want to
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  include children. I don't know what they're.
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  I don't know what these companies obsession is with
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  children like it got it has to come to an.
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  End At the end of the day, it's obviously really sad to watch
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  these three women experience such an intense pylon.
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  And it's even more concerning that the controversy itself may
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  have been planned for vibrality by the executives behind the
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  project. Anything for views and clicks
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  and money and engagement. That is the economy right now.
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  All right, And the last story that I have for you guys today,
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  Alex Cooper has officially revealed that she is pregnant
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  with her first child. So she shared the news on
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  Instagram yesterday, posting photos of her baby bump with her
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  husband, Matt Kaplan, and captioned it.
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  Our family, we don't know anything else yet.
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  Like we don't know what she's having.
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  We don't know her due date, but there's already so much
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  speculation online about how this ties into the Alex Earl
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  drama and also all of the lore that's been coming out about
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  Matt and Unwell. There's a big narrative online
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  that maybe she dropped this news to like deflect from the Alex
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  Earl of it all. I don't believe that.
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  I think she obviously posted that video while she was
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  pregnant. Like Alex Cooper obviously
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  posted that like call out video while she was pregnant.
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  I feel like if she didn't want the drama, she wouldn't have
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  posted that because she was staying out of the drama.
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  Like it was Alex Earl that was like constantly like poking at
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  her and poking at her and she was staying like silent and very
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  reserved on the whole situation. And then she just like made this
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  video and it all blew up. So I feel like if she was trying
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  to deflect from that, like she started that kind of like, you
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  know what I mean? Like she was one that like
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  really instigated like the major blow up.
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  I feel like that is not why she has posted her baby bump
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  announcement because of Alex Earl.
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  I feel like it's more possible that is to deflect from all the
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  Matt Kaplan stuff and all the unwell stuff.
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  I know people were saying like they did the YouTube up fronts
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  last week. I think I think it was upfront
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  where there were like a bunch of projects announced with Unwell
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  and YouTube and stuff like that. And there was so much
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  speculation online that Alex and Matt were like showing up as
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  like a united front, putting on a brave face, even though it
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  looks like they're going to get a divorce.
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  Like everybody was like, Oh my God, this is so staged.
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  Like these pap walks and all this kind of stuff.
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  So I feel like because of all the negative press around Matt
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  Kaplan and Unwell which spun off from the Alex Earl stuff, maybe
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  that's why she decided to post her baby bump?
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  Like specifically this. Weekend regardless she was going
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  to announce this at some point like you don't just like get
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  pregnant to deflect from drama and be that pregnant that
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  quickly. So obviously she was already
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  pregnant when all of this was happening, which would be really
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  difficult to deal with if you're like in your first trimester.
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  So I can definitely sympathize with that it's possible she
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  chose this moment to announce because of everything it's also
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  possible that this weekend was just like the planned time that
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