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97 Feds Seize Bigfoot After Highway Crash — Full Cover-Up Exposed! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: ninety seven with Bruce Brown. He came on and I'm
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  Speaker 1: coming on and enjoy this episode with mister Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, how's it go?
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's going, sir. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Fine?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, So it was pretty interesting I found you.
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  Speaker 1: I reached out over read the didn't scroup up amongst
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  Speaker 1: many others, run more ahead and others and the like,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I'm looking for people to
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  Speaker 1: come and talk about the Sasquatch and you've contacted me.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's pretty interesting that you would do so,
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  Speaker 1: thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So prist to me a favorite te Tell everybody
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself, and you know how this
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  Speaker 1: began for you, and you know what what do you
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  Speaker 1: what do you? What can you tell us about the
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  Speaker 1: Sasquatch and others.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a retard l e O law enforcement ault
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  Speaker 2: hurting the line of duty. Ah retard now obviously. And
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  Speaker 2: my first encounter was when I was eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: We had come in and Daddy was in the military
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  Speaker 2: and we'd come in for the summer vacation back to
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  Speaker 2: his home place and here in Tennessee, and I was
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  Speaker 2: out flying a kite that day, Uh, trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Fly a kite.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't get it in there, made several attempts. As keeping mind,
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  Speaker 2: I was eight years old, and these three apes apes
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  Speaker 2: walked out in the edge of the ape build watching me.
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  Speaker 2: So I went into to the house and told Grandma,
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  Speaker 2: caldn't get my kite ut. So she said, well, yn't
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  Speaker 2: got a tail on it, and so she made me.
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  Speaker 2: She tore her bed sheet and made me three links
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  Speaker 2: of tail on it, and I took it back after
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  Speaker 2: her and was flying it. And these apes were constantly
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  Speaker 2: watching the kite. They weren't paying that much attention to me.
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  Speaker 2: So I when I got done, I went back in
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  Speaker 2: the house and I was telling my grandmother about him.
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  Speaker 2: She says, that's not an apes, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it is because me and my daddy we
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  Speaker 2: watched Wild Kingdom every Sunday and they were apes to me.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know at that time that they were hery
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  Speaker 2: of people or sasquak. So she explained to me that
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing like that in Tennessee. So a week later
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  Speaker 2: we went to my great grandmother, who was a Cherokee Indian.
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  Speaker 2: We went to check on her, and then my grandmother
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  Speaker 2: had told her what I had seen. So she set
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  Speaker 2: me down and talked to me and explained to me
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  Speaker 2: what I seen was a harryman. It wasn't an ape,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. We don't have those here in Tennessee. So
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  Speaker 2: that was my first encounter, not knowing it was actually
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  Speaker 2: an encounter right right at eight years old. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: secured of them because you know, on the Wild Kingdom loans,
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  Speaker 2: you don't look them in the base or go around
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  Speaker 2: and stay a distance. They're just watching me fly a kite.
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  Speaker 2: No big deal to me, you know that was I
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  Speaker 2: was more into the kite than I was the ape.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, which makes sense, you know. I mean I remember
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  Speaker 1: flying my friend. It's pretty cool. Less white feels you
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  Speaker 1: to go fly like, hey, that's something different.
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  Speaker 2: So we twelve years old, we had gone fishing and
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  Speaker 2: we were in the back waters of the Cumberland River
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  Speaker 2: and it was me and my parents and my other siblings,
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  Speaker 2: and on the opposite side we've seen another group come out.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was still you know, I wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: believer in a Harryman's stuff. You know, it's just I'm
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  Speaker 2: twelve years old. I just didn't I didn't buy the story.
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  Speaker 2: So we were fishing, they wandered off on down and
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  Speaker 2: went into the woods. So I was more or less
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  Speaker 2: cacktails and then went in the woods. So I went
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  Speaker 2: around the bank. On that side there's this massive tracks
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  Speaker 2: which is apes and I had another That encounter involved
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  Speaker 2: one that was probably not much bigger than me, that
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  Speaker 2: come out within feat of me, just out of curiosity
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  Speaker 2: watching me. And so that was my third or no,
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  Speaker 2: that was my second encounter. So that lasted probably forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. Wow, more more curious than than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: So I remembered what my grandmother told me the weeks
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  Speaker 2: before too. If I'm taking anything from the land, whether
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  Speaker 2: whatever it be, to leave it something, and that's a
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  Speaker 2: that's the truth offering, and just out of curiosity I'd
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  Speaker 2: caught a bluegill, and so I just pitched it out
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  Speaker 2: on the bank behind me, and uh, it come down
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  Speaker 2: and picked it up and went in the woods. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see it again that day.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, you actually seen it came come and retreat it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it come, it come right down. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: twelve years old, so I probably threw it twenty feet
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  Speaker 2: from me. So it come down, and it wasn't much
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  Speaker 2: bigger than me. You know, it's a young one, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So again me thinking this is an ape, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't scared of it and didn't count.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce. You were by yourself when this happened. You were
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  Speaker 1: by yourself fishing.
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  Speaker 2: No, my parents were on the other side. I was
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  Speaker 2: over there on that side Peach fishing with him missus
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  Speaker 2: the backwater, and I had walked around to that side.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, after I had seen them over her,
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  Speaker 2: but they had left and going back into the what
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  Speaker 2: we call cattails woods on the backside of that. So
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  Speaker 2: I just walked around and I seen the big prince
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  Speaker 2: and stuff and didn't, like I said, didn't pay a
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  Speaker 2: lot of attention to it. And then I started fishing
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  Speaker 2: and caught some bluegill and when night would come out,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it come out, and it was just watching me.
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  Speaker 2: It was a small one. And then I remembered what
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  Speaker 2: my grandmother said. So I just just out of curiosity
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  Speaker 2: picked one up and won the blue gill up and
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  Speaker 2: threw up there to it, which was more than twenty
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  Speaker 2: feet and it walked down there, and who just bent
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  Speaker 2: down like you would do a squat, and picked it
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  Speaker 2: up and stood back up and walked back in the cattails.
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  Speaker 2: And I hadn't seen him since that day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's incredible. That's incredible. So it started from
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  Speaker 1: an early age for you. I mean, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it seems like they were not afraid of you
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  Speaker 1: or felt something about it. It's well interesting, I did interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have any fear of them. They couldn't sense
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  Speaker 1: any feer because I had no peer. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just to me. I you know, it was just a
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  Speaker 1: with a wild kingdom. Let's don't look them in the eyes,
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  Speaker 1: don't charge them or make sudden gestures. And I just
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  Speaker 1: remembered stuff like that, right, And so I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I actually believe in bigfoot. I didn't. I knew
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  Speaker 1: these were apes, so there was no big deal for me.
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  Speaker 1: And then then counters just just kept coming. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like every time I went somewhere, I would run across.
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  Speaker 2: And then it become I started asking, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: elderly people in the communities and stuff about it, and
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  Speaker 2: they would explaining if you had a good spirit about you,
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  Speaker 2: but they wouldn't bother you. They were and you were
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  Speaker 2: more able to see them. And so it went from there,
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  Speaker 2: and then I got a I got a call for
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  Speaker 2: a school superintendent when I was a young man that
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  Speaker 2: I had hunted on his property previously. So he was
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  Speaker 2: having problems with a bus driver and some kids seeing
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  Speaker 2: a bear and a cub across the road. So he
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  Speaker 2: told me where it was in the bus driver's name,
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  Speaker 2: and I knew the bus driver, so I went to
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  Speaker 2: his house talked to him and he said, yeah, about
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  Speaker 2: about six twenty to six thirty every morning, this barrier
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  Speaker 2: in her cub cross the road. So he give me
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  Speaker 2: location and stuff, and so I went up and talked
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  Speaker 2: to the landowner who actually owned the land, and I
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  Speaker 2: knew him too, and so got with him. He wants
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  Speaker 2: to go now, he's a park ranger so he wants
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  Speaker 2: to go too, because there wasn't supposed to be any
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  Speaker 2: bears around in that vicinid in the last one hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: So we we get together and he wants to go
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  Speaker 2: that night. And I've got a Johnny Walferd game caller
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  Speaker 2: and it's got a big experienced speaker on. It's one
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  Speaker 2: of the backpack deals, the older styles. So I told
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  Speaker 2: him I take here. We would go in there Bobby's barn.
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  Speaker 2: He'd moved his cows about two weeks before that to
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  Speaker 2: another barn because he had to come up dead. So
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  Speaker 2: he was telling his his brother in law, which was
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  Speaker 2: married to his sister. They owned a farm next to mine,
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  Speaker 2: and so he worked for Ford Motor Company had a
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  Speaker 2: brand new Ford Polol drive truck. So his son, who
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  Speaker 2: was about eighteen years old, wanted to go with us.
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  Speaker 2: So we agreed to all of us when we met
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  Speaker 2: up at a certain time after dark. It was in January,
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  Speaker 2: really cold, So we pull up to the barn and
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  Speaker 2: we've got a quilt and we put the guns on
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  Speaker 2: top of the cap of the truck. We're standing in
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  Speaker 2: the cab. We leave this young boy in the behind
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  Speaker 2: the steering wheel of the truck and just out of
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  Speaker 2: precautionary and plus we got to hand him our spark
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  Speaker 2: like ords putting a cigarette lighter. He's got to make
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  Speaker 2: sure we don't pull out out we do plug it
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  Speaker 2: back in. Okay, So we started this game call of
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  Speaker 2: a dying jack rabbit. We started seeing movement out in
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  Speaker 2: front of us. We're pulled in this property on the
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  Speaker 2: upper side of the barn, but we're backed in. So
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  Speaker 2: me and the man in the back, who was an
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  Speaker 2: elderly gentleman, had a clear shot and we were shound
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  Speaker 2: the spotlight that way. So as soon as I seen
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  Speaker 2: something move out in front of us, I told him
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  Speaker 2: to cut the spotlight on. He cuts the potlight on,
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  Speaker 2: and I was ready with We had a twenty two
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  Speaker 2: twenty two double barll shot on a thirty six and
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  Speaker 2: a three y w eight peer rivals hunting raffles. And
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  Speaker 2: when we've done that, I seen a kyo and so
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  Speaker 2: I want to take a beat on the coyote to
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  Speaker 2: shoot the kyot and back. Then third brought good money
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  Speaker 2: and we were there. Though we were thinking it was
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  Speaker 2: a pack of wild dogs that he killed his cap.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't anything to do with a pair because it
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any law marks on it or tore up
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  Speaker 2: like that. So we were thinking just a pack of
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  Speaker 2: wild dogs. Back then, that wasn't in common. So we're
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  Speaker 2: I'm up, got my gun ready to take the shot
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  Speaker 2: on this coyote, and we hear this got awful holler.
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  Speaker 2: It was so it was so intense. It sounded like
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  Speaker 2: a two thousand pounds bull bellers, but it was so
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  Speaker 2: much deeper, and it vibrated us, and we were like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, well, hold on a minute, so we shine
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  Speaker 2: the spotlight up there where we heard it when her
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  Speaker 2: trees breaking the stuff and it's screaming going on. So
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  Speaker 2: at this time the recorder was still playing this dying
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  Speaker 2: drag Jack grabb a call. So the guy, the guy
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  Speaker 2: in the front seat, the young man in the front seat,
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  Speaker 2: he starts to turn it down, and I whispered told him, no,
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  Speaker 2: don't turn it down. And as I turned back around,
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  Speaker 2: this thing had stepped out in the field. Now it
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  Speaker 2: was probably one hundred yards seventy five to one hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards from us. When it came out in this field,
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  Speaker 2: it was so massive and it just tore out running
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  Speaker 2: towards us, and it was coming so fast The only
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  Speaker 2: thing we could do was try to shoot. There weren't
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  Speaker 2: no getting out of the back of the truck and
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  Speaker 2: putting guns in the truck, getting in the truck, there
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  Speaker 2: was no time. It was that quick. So I grabbed
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  Speaker 2: a three o way, got him in in my lens
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  Speaker 2: of the scope. He grabbed his thirty off six, got
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  Speaker 2: him in the lens of his scup. We're getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to pull the trigger because this thing is already he's
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  Speaker 2: already there. He's on top of us. He's within twenty
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  Speaker 2: yards and he's club was and quick. Well he stops
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  Speaker 2: and let's out this terrible scream, and it just went
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  Speaker 2: through us and our bodies locked up. We could not
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  Speaker 2: pull the trigger. We couldn't release the guns. We were
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  Speaker 2: just locked. We were just locked. And then the boys
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  Speaker 2: that was driving the truck and see through the mirrors
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  Speaker 2: were our spotlight was on it. He just drove off.
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  Speaker 2: We're standing back of the truck. Well, our guns it's
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  Speaker 2: on the calf of the truck that fell off in
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  Speaker 2: the bed. We have lost our balance and both of
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  Speaker 2: us have felt against the tailgates and have dropped our
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  Speaker 2: guns in the bed and I'm going over the tailgate.
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  Speaker 2: The elder gentlemen, mister Shanks. He catches me, pulls me
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  Speaker 2: back in. So we did. We come out of the barnyard.
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  Speaker 2: We left the gate open. We hit the road and
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  Speaker 2: made a laugh and was going down the road and
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  Speaker 2: this kid, this new truck, I mean he was moving
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  Speaker 2: on was probably on the gravel road like had doing
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  Speaker 2: thirty five or forty. Well, I am scrambling trying to
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  Speaker 2: find her guns and this thing that's out another holler whay,
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  Speaker 2: and look back. He's behind the truck, probably thirty yards
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  Speaker 2: and he's running us. So we come around the curve
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  Speaker 2: and we get into the straight stretch and he's gaining
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  Speaker 2: on us. Holy, this boy, he just keeps getting faster faster.
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  Speaker 2: By the time we got to pitch in my oun are,
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  Speaker 2: the truck was just weaving all over the road, which
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  Speaker 2: is what you get to do. And that's when the
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  Speaker 2: perry man started to losing.
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  Speaker 1: And on.
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  Speaker 2: Move you to you israle from the young boy's house
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  Speaker 2: that we bought had loaned as his new truck. Boy
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  Speaker 2: jumps off the truck. He runs in the house and
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  Speaker 2: father comes out. What happened? We told him, We told
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  Speaker 2: him what happened. Her mother comes out screaming something wrong
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  Speaker 2: with her son. And we run in there and he's
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  Speaker 2: been shocked, so he thinks this thing is still going
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  Speaker 2: to come back to their house, right, So we get
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  Speaker 2: him in there and we get calmed down. She fixes
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  Speaker 2: us all hot chocolate. Yeah. I look at the older
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  Speaker 2: gentleman there that was with us. I said, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go back and get our guns. He's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going I said, this is your farm. I mean you can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just run up and leave it. He said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going back. After talking to him for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of hours and the book he was, he was
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  Speaker 2: just out. He was just out of it. And so
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  Speaker 2: we go. I talked mister I use his last name.
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  Speaker 2: I talked mister Shanks in to going back with me
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  Speaker 2: to retrieve with guns, and but we waited till day.
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  Speaker 2: About seven thirty in the morning, we went back and
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  Speaker 2: got our guns, and of course we had one that
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  Speaker 2: was broken. And we looked down and there massive tracks
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  Speaker 2: when we come out on the road and made that
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  Speaker 2: left turn. He going down that dirt road, there was
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  Speaker 2: tracks all the way down through there where he'd run
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  Speaker 2: through that mud in the front in the barnyard and
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  Speaker 2: come out on the road with muddy beet. So it
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  Speaker 2: all are just probably two thirds of the way to
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  Speaker 2: these people's house, okay. And then after that I've become
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  Speaker 2: and batuated with them, and it was a curiosity and
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to understand why some of them were that
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  Speaker 2: aggressive some general. So what I figured over the years
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  Speaker 2: what I'd done was unintentionally uh aggravated it by using
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  Speaker 2: that dyn rabbit call. Uh. I promoked it not knowing,
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  Speaker 2: and we truly believed we were going to get killed
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  Speaker 2: that night.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, that's that's that's that's that's terrifying, man, that's terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: And even after this experience, you still found like a
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  Speaker 1: way to still want to know about them, because imagine
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  Speaker 1: some people when after something like that happening, they're just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's that's good enough for me. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to find out any more about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't trap, I didn't made back that. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't go back in the woods and hunt. Probably for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years, I stayed close to the roads,
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  Speaker 2: trapping in the creeks and rivers. And then I come
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  Speaker 2: across another another uh. They call them clan I call
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  Speaker 2: them nuclear families that pave no attention to me, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: they were now aggression whatsoever. So the only thing I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: could figure out with this one was was I provoked
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it unintentionally?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You know we went there. Yeah, we went there because
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: bus drivers people said that there was a bear and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a bear cub. We went there to looking for basically
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: looking for pack a wild dogs. To be honest with you,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and the bear, if we've seen it, we weren't gonna
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: shoot it. Was just scared off by shooting in there,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and right because that's an accident. Yeah, because that's a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: protected pieces. If it would have been there, we'd have
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: been in the wrong to shoot it. Correct, So our
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: intentions when we looked at the when me and mister
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Shanks looked at the cattle, it was obvious because I'd
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: lived in Alaska and even as a kid, I'd seen
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: bear attacks on carcasses of caribou and the moose and stuff,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and it was nothing like that. The animals really didn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: have any marks on them other than their tongues and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: their bellies were eating now and that, you know, But
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: there was no there was no big claw marks like
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a bear with something of.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Leave was there also a lot right, okay, right, because
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not just because you know, kind of mutilations is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: something you know a little bit different that were like
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: there's no blood around it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Just I had a lot of times your smaller animals,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: like your bossoms and stuff will eat the rear end
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: out and go inside the guts and stuff.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And then do you have your birds, your crows and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: stuff will pick the eyes out and eat those and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: then they'll eat the tongue. But uh, this one was
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: this one was ripped open and it was it was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: smaller canines. It was nothing comparable to a bed, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: mean a bear, you know, in the stomach area. It
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was out in the sad parts. So uh, clearly wasn't
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a bear, So we can't. After that happened, the man
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that owned the cattle squears up and down. It had
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to be the big foot that killed them. But we
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: had no proof of that, right, no proof Uh what
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: they were saying crossing the road. Uh. I went back
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to the bus driver. He was an elderly gener and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I told him, I said, well you've been in truthful woman,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: because I don't think you were. And he said, well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I haven't never seen a bear in real life, only
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: seen him on TV. I know they stand up, but
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it's a certain place where I told you to go
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: every morning around six twenty to six thirty. It walked
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: across the roads. I said, did both of them walk?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And he was like, no, just the mama would walk
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and the cup would come across. And I said, so
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you've had a clear enough picture, you know for sure
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it's a bear, he said, He told me. He said, well, Bruce,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to sound crazy, but I never thought
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it was a bear to start with. The kids said
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: it was a bear. I'd seen baron TV, and I'd
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: seen bears stand on around legs. So I went along
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: with it. And when I got to school, I told
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the Prince want and principal called to superintendent and he
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: recommended you because he knows you and honey, and see
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the children are just using a frame of reference,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you know, and instead of just they wouldn't even fathom
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: something like that, So they're using something that that would
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: be something they would maybe understand. So when you go
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: out there looking for this thing and you're using that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: hair call, and then you're out there, you know, with
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: your weapons, you know, how they're not a big fan
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: of weapons. That would definitely provoke an attack. That is,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that's why I've never heard them running down the road
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: behind a vehicle. Yeah, that's a new one on me.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: That it was a giant male. He was in a rage.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Something we done, whether it was a jack rabbit call
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: with the spotlight, something we done city at all. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: of course that particular year we had three weeks a
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: busting cold weather that stayed around zero at not to
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: blow zero wow. So it's a how about this large male?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, how big was it? Because you hear stories
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: between eight eight and a half and sometimes you hear
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: look like, I don't know, you know what you've seen,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but I've heard about them ten twelve feet.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Well, this is to give you an idea. This isn't
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: had a twenty one inch track by eleven eleven inches across.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So here I was at that age, I wore a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: ten and I could put my bootprint in sideways across
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the width of it, not on length the width. So
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that that was a massive creature. Now he was solid,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: he was solid, black eyed to portion was much further apart.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: The nose was somewhat flat, but did extend just a
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: little bit. The mouth wasn't like ours. The mouth come
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: up around here, further around almost a word of jaw
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: where your jawbones are. So after I had a picture
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: of it that we had managed to get on a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: polaroid camera that the boy took looking through the mirror.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: He took in the front seat looking through a big
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: side mirror and took it by looking through the mirror
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: behind us. So I'm just assuming that's just the way
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: they are because over the years I've seen many like
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that and where their I guess their mouth can open
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a lot wider like that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the Tennessee area. I was listening to Darryl
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Denton talk about his first experience on his grandfather's farm,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and he said that it had the mouth was bigger
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and wider and opened up. Did this one have like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the conical head on it too? Or was it normal shaped? No,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it was conical head. It was Uh, it had a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Out of all of them I've seen over the years,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it probably had the most terror on it, a lot
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: longest hair. Wow.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: So it happened. It was just a massive uh. You
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: could see when it was running us down the road.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: You could see the muscular about it, right, But it
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: did have a It did have a I want to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: call a weave in the top of its hair, oh,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: like a braid. Like a braid. I don't know if
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that was matted hair or braided, but it was, uh
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: like single braids of hair with multiple braids and it
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: just singles, you know. So it was a.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Quite interesting That is not the first time I've heard that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite unique, and but I have never
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: encountered one so aggressive before, and I've never encountered one
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that aggressive since. Then.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, so after this happens, Bruce, did you start so
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: how did you What did you start doing? Did you
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: start going out and talking to farmers or they start
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: contacting you. I know, in being a law enforcement you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: probably couldn't come forward to your you know whatever. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know whatever it is the lead police officer
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in the in your precinct or whatever that word is
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for a military myself, I don't know. I we called
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a check the command, you know, I can thinking to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: my you know, my sargeant. You know, how did you
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: how did you start you begin? Did you tell anybody
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: well you.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Have to do incident reports and law enforcement when do
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you run across from now that's left up your camp
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: commanding officer a plum or if they go to the military,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I go to the military. Then that's end that you'll
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: never see it again. Your incident reports disappear. Everything's gone Wow.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting that must be. And you see you're seeing
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: this from the inside, knowing that you're the one who
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: made a report of not hearing any feedback and then
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: probably following up one and seeing what happened to it
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: or what's being discussed or decided upon, and then are disappearing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Right, it disappears. I mean even the cases that I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: didn't work but showed up on the scene to assist
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to belong to another officers. Would you know one one
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: particular one, uh he had over here in Macon County, Tennessee,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: was a man hit it with a car and we
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: were as we're working in the scene. It didn't kill it,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it broke its legs and uh there was a debate
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: on whether to put it down or not, but we
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: decided not. And uh so we we contacted another agency,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and that agency contacted an agency. They showed up and black,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: one black SUV and one black Crown Police cruiser like
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I was driving with Tenners Winders, and they were federal agents.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: So they got out and said we'll take over the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: scene from here. So the vehicle was towed off on
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the record. The guy who hit it never seen him again.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And then we done the incident reports on what we
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: had seen and what I had seen, and of course
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: our first officer on the scene, it was his case,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: so he also done an incident and done an accident
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: report on the damage to the car, and all that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: was filed and it all come up missing. Wow, we
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: don't know what happened to the guy his car. What
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: happened to the big foot that was hurt. Now, this
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: big poot that was hurt was a He was a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: reddish brown and he was hit in the legs. Both
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: legs were broke right below the kneecap, damn. So and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it was just laying.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Out there on the road. It was just laying on
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the road when you've seen it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: No, when he crossed over, when he run across the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: road and prom this guy when he hitt him, it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: knocked him through a bob bark fence. So he was
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: in a count pasture just right off the road. Maybe
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: fifteen to eighteen feet laying laying there, and he was
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: curled up in a fetal position, but his legs were broke.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: He couldn't He tried to crawl, but he couldn't crawl.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: He was too bad.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That is wild. That is so incredible. I mean not
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just the account, which is incredible enough, right, I mean
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: that's an incredible account. But why do you think that
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: this is being you know, subdued, or being hidden or
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: what is your what is your thoughts on a person?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, the state and the government believed that the people
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: can't handle the truth, and they don't want a lot
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: of people in the woods hunting these things with guns
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and shooting now. And at the same time, there were
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: experiments done with these animals. The worth of military come
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: in and captured them in certain areas. We had a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: training video when I went through law enforcement training acade
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to teach us how to handle these creatures. Are you
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: know a lot of law men, A lot of law
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: men won't talk about that. But we had a woman
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: in East Tennessee who lived and a trainer with just
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: heard her two kids and her she lit on a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: dead end road when you come down so far it
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: was her property. When you cross through that gate, you
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: know you're on her property. Well, her kids were played
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: in the backyard and she could give them hot dogs.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Were they to leave their hot dogs out there what
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: they did need. And that ended up bringing a nuclear
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: family in who were there constantly, and she begun became
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: friends with them. Now they didn't have any language to talk,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: but she knew what they wanted and their biggest thing
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: was hot dogs. They love hot dogs, so the male
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: would always approach her. And then she started buying cases
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: of hot dogs and then leaving out seven or eight
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: on the picnic table that was behind the trailer, and
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they was the way it got put to us. The
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: law enforcement in the military was that Dan rather done
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a story on it rather so we got buried real quick.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it could probably be found now if a
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: man wanted to take the time to find it through
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the archives. Then rather done the story on it. And
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that block brought out a lot of newspaper people. So
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: she blocked them off from coming up the gate by
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: locking the gate. But we had all these camera men
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: with these lenses, high profile lenses and lenses taking pictures
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: of them, and one night, three helicopters showed up from
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Port Campbell black Hawk helicopters, and the big Foot wasn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: seen sense, the nuclear family wouldn't seen sense. So yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the woman won't talk to anybody. So I don't know
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: if they were captured. We weren't given prevy information on
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the training video on that certain aspects of it, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: but we did the military coming in, and then they
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: weren't seen again after that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: What was the training video trying to train the new recruits?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What was it actually doing? Uh?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Secrecy, It's all about secrecy. How to maintain secrecy?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: M hm uh.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: In that in that in that uh that training seminar,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: they've trained the some atomic warfare, and atomic warfare is
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: not what you think of, is like nuclear bones or
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: atomic warfare deals with heavy situations like this and that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: If we stop certain tractor traders on the road and
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a soldier comes out with a gun and stuff says,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: don't come any closer. We're to get back in our
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: cars and leave and not report this because it's trans
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: transporting weapons or radioactive materials. Wow, we're you know that?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So that's the stop never existed. So we're trained in that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Are you in any try to would you be or
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: are you or will you be in any kind of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: trouble bringing this information forward like that?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: No, No, this is this is stuff that was been trained.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I went to tense Longforce from training the kid in
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: special classes, and this is stuff that train. A lot
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of guys don't talk about. They're still in the career.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: They're not going to talk about it because it calls
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: from their career. And then right when you get when
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you get like me, I'm like, you know, I don't
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: care if they make fun on me. I don't care
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: if they call me a liar or everything else. It
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: just doesn't matter to me.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I know, right, you know, right right, So these but
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the thing is now, Bruce, what I'm might, what I'm in,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, picking up, is that it seems I don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: know if it's because of the Internet and more people
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: are talking about it because more people are coming forward,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: or that these that these these creatures, these big flippy
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: sasquatch are multiplying, or that we're encroaching upon their area
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: or that they're expanding upon their area. But seems to
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: be more and more sightings of them.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Were we are we're runn they're running out of territory,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and they're moving into a lot of the forest areas
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that's protected. But those areas at the same time we're
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: also government controlled, right, so you know, you're seeing people
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: are art, rangers are letting more people see them without
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: their bosses and everybody else in all.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Oh so it's kind of like backwaters letting out.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like hey, if you all go down.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Out of the bad, kind of like, go down this right,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: don't that, don't tell you.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Right, go down this trail here, and you're going to
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: see your butterflies and birds knowing good and well, they're
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: gonna walk a little bigfoot, you know.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Wow. I hear a lot about that, especially out like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: in the Smoky Mountain area out that way in eastern Tennessee,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in western North Carolina. It seems to be a heavy
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: concentration because it is, as you were saying, a protected area,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and I know, researchers, you know whatever. You know, however
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: you want to define what they are that they're doing
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: going in there, and there's just you know, there's a
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: lot of action. There's places that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: People you can.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: There's there's people goes on somebody and say, man, I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: can show you and they'll take you out there and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: show you.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Right, there's people goes in these parts that the park
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: system doesn't even keep a accurate listing of the people
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that goes missing in these national parks. And that's intentionally done.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: You know what do you mean by that, prison, Well,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you know there's there's cases of parks that have thousands
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: of people's going missing. Maybe ninety percent of them are
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: found and the other ten percent are never bound. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: then when you when you look at the records, the
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: records those they're missing, but they're not they're not counted,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: they're not counted publicly for the public to know. So
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: again that goes to the money aspect of it. So
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: if you're losing, if you if you've got if you've
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: got a certain part, it's losing more than usual experience
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: hikers and campers and stuff, then you're not going.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: To advertise it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And up they may be running across maybe something like
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I run across little kidds.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: So so you're saying that maybe they're intentionally by x's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and o's encounters, maybe possibly putting people in harm's way.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Right, because because that's you know, that's not so dark.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And then when you get into military installations, for instance,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: military istallations. You're generally cover several thousands of acres uh
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: land between the lakes Big dog Man Territory. And also
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: it also has a big book feech. You know, that's
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: sash watcher. But there wasn't a lot of that going
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: on until the military come in there and then opened
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: it up to the public after so many years. Now
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: they've got these things they can't explain going on in there.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And I look at it mostly it's probably experimental. Could
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: it be aliens the government had? Could it be have
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: stuff like that? But they hybrid bread and labs and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: turn loose in the like the'll bel I think some
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty thousand acres. Right, you don't know
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: what you're going against in the government. The government is
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: so secretive and its doings, and especially with things that
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: are super for natural. And you asked that question about
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: the cops not really coming for so much anymore. If
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you like, I'm retired, I don't. I'm not a law
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: enforcement anymore. But if you're in law enforcement and you
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you write your report out and that reports gets slipped
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to the newspaper and it's on a big pot dog Man,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: even am off Man. The worst thing that any law
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: enforcement officer wants to go through, because he has to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: go through it at least once in his career, is
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a sight exam psyche and they can last from twelve
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to twenty four hours. And if you have seen like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: that and directly disobeyed orders by letting that get out,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be put through the wringer, and the outcome
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: is not going to be good for you. You'll never
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: work in law enforcement again.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Right, You're probably also kind of blackballed to try to
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: even if you wanted to start a business and then
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: put in certain.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean you're you're a lot of work.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So that you can get it off the ground, LLC
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: or whatever, they can take a back channel you and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: mark you and then you're done. You're you're done.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And so you know, a lot of people it's hard.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: This dogs in the about uh the different things that
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: it can do, and it's sort of you know, of course,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I believe a.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Lot of it.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I've not seen I've not known thee seen one, but
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: as I'm learning more about it, maybe I have seen one.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I've seen some big butt that were extremely
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: thin I consider to be old. It looked, you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: they had to hump in the back.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: They looked like a big put but in the same sense,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: it didn't act like them back to uh, more human
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: like than a big put and uh. And that's the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: same time they would in front of you and they're gone,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: so it disappears.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I've seen I've seen a mist in
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the field and I was far from the mist in
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the field. And that around in Tennessee we consider normal
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: because we could we have the most densest woods in
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the state United States. Tennessee doesn't, and so smoky mountains
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: of basically a rainforest, so it's not uncommon. Like land
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: between the laces bordered by two different lakes, Lake Barkley
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and Tennessee, Tennessee on one side of the other. It's
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: so much more like a pencil or what we call
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a spit. It's land in between water.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So uh be a perfect place when governments doing their
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: experiments with these type of creatures to release them.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: That right, for what purpose if you had to, if
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you had to venture of guests, what purpose would it
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: be to do some type of experiment to alter these creatures.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: What would you.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Say, Well, my knowing guests through the government is they
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: release them at youngs and their hybrids to see what
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: they turn into. They're not going to keep them locked
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: up in labs and stuff. They need to release them,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and they need them to release them on military installations
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: if they get out of hand and they hurt somebody
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: or kill somebody, and it's more easily for them to
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: cover it up and retrieve that particular energy and destroy.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It right right, So it's like they're in the installations
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I was on Fort Riley. I've been
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: to a couple of forts in the States. When I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was there, I think Fort Jackson for Gordon, there's like
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: in Fort Riley there was an actual like impact zone
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: in the middle where they would launch other artillery and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: practice all their rounds and things like that. So in
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that ara there's there's a big road that goes all
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the way around it, all the way around the military installation.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: So if they can monitor that. I'm not saying that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they use for Riley. They're probably using something more like
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Fort Lewis Carson, maybe ford Hood, something larger, something more
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: wooded that would be a little easier to monitor. But
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, I've heard stories where
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, military person that are doing you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: big big Wax or some type of operations out there
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: practicing things like that anywhere across these things too. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it seems to be more often than not, uh that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that this does happen. So there is some you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: circumstantial because you know, this can be written down as
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: we're talking the whole time, evidence supporting what you're saying.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So I completely agree that this is a very likely possibility.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just a again, the government, the government
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: does some does some things, they do some experiments, they
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: capt just like when they capture Big, but what do
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: they do with them? Well, now you're having more sites
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: on government military installations along with the dog Man or
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: now you've got witnesses said received dog man kill Big,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: but and then witnesses that says they say dog Man
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and Big put work together.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yeah, there's a lot of things going on. Man,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on. Do you ever
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: think there will be a time when when this will
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: become like you know, opening the you know, the Sunday
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: newspaper or you know where I'm an older guy. So
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Sunday newspaper or Twitter, whatever people open nowadays, and it'll
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: be something like just normal, just like this whole UFO
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: you know thing that they're doing now, do you think
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: it'll be Yeah, I think it's I think it's normal
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a point of time in which they have to Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's normal now.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It's just that.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: They're doing it in stages instead of letting the public
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: have it all at one time. If you do it
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in stages and gradually through the generation, is accepted and
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: it's more easy to accept it. If you just push
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: it out all what a time. You're going to shock
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: people and scare people. True, but but the uh, big
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: but big, the big Foot, which my grandmother called them
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: to Harry Man. They've been around here and documented by
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the engines and lithographs and caves forever. So you know
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: it's hard to yuh, of course, I'm not. I'm not
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: into convincing people there's a big foot. I'm not inconvincing.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I see and what I do
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. Give you. For instance, I posted a picture
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: of a big foot who had been throwing rocks at me,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: but not at me. He threw rocks to warn me
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: not to come any further, and I posted it on
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: our sides and out of four thousands or something views,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: only one other man seen it, So you know, it's
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it's a perception of what people are willing to accept
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and realize. And as yeah, after COVID, more people got
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: away from other people into the woods and started coming
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: here from big cities buying land, and they're pushing them
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: into these areas. And when they're pushing them in these areas,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you have these sightings just getting right, building, building and building.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, the population out of the word densifies or gets
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: more dense, so therefore a lot of the possibilities have
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: you actually seen one increases?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that makes sense. This has been a really
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: good year because here in East Tennessee we've had a
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: bumper crop, probably one of the biggest crops I've seen
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: in twenty or thirty years, of acrons, hickory nuts, walnuts,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: bumper crops and fruits, the per simmons, the fruit for
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: simon that grows wild, the pawpalls. We've just had an
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: extreme a bumper crop, and a lot of people are
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: seeing them right now, and it's just the foods has
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: been on real form. You know, when we have those
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: really bad years, we don't have good crops, meaning nut
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: crops from the trees, and you'll see more people have
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: incidents around their homes where their trash cans or tore
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: up and stuff. But in those areas there's no bearriers.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So there's really nothing that law enforcement or the government
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: can come back say, all bear did that?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: You know, right?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: You know, you know we're we're just now getting juvenile
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: bears in here. You might have one ever's wort one
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: hundred square miles, but I'm not that it's just a
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: three year old bearer. It's not. He's more scared to
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: you than most deer are people, So they're not going
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of the back of what you're saying
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: is so I have a I have two moderators of mine,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Mike and Jenny Atkins, who helped me run my shows
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and especially on my lives and things, and they live
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in the mountains of western North Carolina and Nace. They've
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: been at this property for two years and after Hurricane
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Helene went through, they were saying that right after that,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: maybe a week after that. So they live on a
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: ridge line and up and up above them, like literally
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: it's their house and it goes basically almost vertical up
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: behind them. And ever since then, they've had quarts gifted
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to them down at the bottom of their house. They've
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: had the trash cans block, they've had fence posts ripped out,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like weird tree things up in the woods, like weird
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: things that shouldn't be They're like like there'll be a
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: larger piece of like a lug or a stump or
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: something of that nature, about three four inches in diameter
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and like you know, like cane area like up in
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the trees, like where did that fall from? And he
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: actually seen one of them. And so basically during the hurricane,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you know, in the valleys that like basically decimated everything
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: down there, so they kind of moved up into the mountains,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: which kind of once again, it's kind of what you're
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: saying too. You know, they're getting pushed into these smaller pockets,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: are being forced to relocate, so when they're moving people
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: are seeing them as well. So yeah, it's just it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: uh uh yeah, it's a very interesting time to be
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a life. Frank. Frank, Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the with all the people that's moved into Tennessee
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: in North Carolina. And then with those floods coming through
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and wiping out the valley areas on out of the roads,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: you push these animals that you congregate them just like
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: he would anything else, but just like the people to
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: go higher. So you start having more interactions. Some people
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: don't know what they've seen. Some people refuse to to
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: talk about it because you know, here in East Tennessee,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: there's a belief along the with the older people. When
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I was growing up, dog men was around, but I
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: didn't know it was a dog man. They called it
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: a line with a heavy mane. If you've seen one
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: out that means if you talk about it, somebody's gonna
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: die in the family or get deathly sick. So the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: old people wouldn't talk about it. And a lot of
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: those older people and that generation still live in these
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: mountains and still believe that they see a big put
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: have interaction with a big boot. They will tell you basically,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: if it's your family members, they will tell you you
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: don't bother him and let him let him be. You know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: my holl got sick and they cured my hog. You know, yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: my wife got sick and they cured my wife. Know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you hear these stories over and over and they will
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: tell you this is just not something we're willing to
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: discussed and talk about.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's certain people who are really advert or what's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the word that they really don't want to talk about
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: it is they are only this and that's it. Yeah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: because that's what I've seen, And other people are like, no, dude,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing orbs and glowing eyes. And one time I've
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: seen one, but my friend couldn't or I couldn't see
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: he could, and then I moved and then I could
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: see it because it was from my vantished point, it
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: disappeared like and how do you explain that? You just can't?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a lot of weirdness going on,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and it's human nature to want to know. So it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: coming more and more. For so, what's before I get
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you out of here? Man? We're almost at the hour.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: It went by really fast? What is next for you?
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Are you going to continue on, you know, helping people?
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: What is it that you're doing now?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I got I've gotten older, I kept all of
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: mine secret, didn't discuss it with many people, and it
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: almost disgusted with family members. As I got older, figure, well,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I could pass a lot of this along.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I'm no expert, but I could pass a little this
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: knowledge on and with the knowledge that the elderss before
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: me their knowledge and keep this knowledge going. So I
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: was working getting ready to work a place and involved
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the camper. Was a lot of strange things going on
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: with five Bigfoot. And then I've talked to by reaching
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: out being part of these groups, I was able to
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: talk to a person who has the ability certain abilities
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: that I don't have to say, Bruce, don't do that.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: That's dangerous. This is something more than just a big
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: put So as I interviewed the guy that's having the problems,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of the things that he told me did
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: not have anything to do with the Bigfoot that he
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: thought that did. I mean, he was give you, for instance,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and his camper, he doesn't have a hole in the roof,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: but acrons were falling through the roof into these floors
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: when this thing is outside his door. So we're talking
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: supernatural And that'side of my room. Yes, outside of my
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: experience dealing with big Foot.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know a little bit more my the things
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I've run across.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You know. He put up a light h there outside
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the camper, a big it's like a heat bulb light.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: It goes in a hood and it showed. He took
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: a picture of it. He took a actual video of it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: He took a video of it, and you can see
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: that it forms around this light and it's blurred and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see just like crunch in
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: and the explode. Well, that's out. That's out of my
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: my room. He'd have to get somebody that's in the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: supernatural stuff to deal with that, you.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Know, right, Maybe you can send me that video. I
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: won't put it on here, but I'd love to see that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you love to see Yeah, he got it, okay,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and he's he's, you know, begging me for help, and
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to tell him, poor gunpowder around his boundaries.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or tobacco something yeah, yeah, something like that. There's
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: there's some people that I do know that are up
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in that area that probably could help him. Yeah, that
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: that that they were in the Kentucky area there. They
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: they they do all kinds of stuff like that where
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: they go to properties and they talk to people who
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: are having really weird things like I've never heard where
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: eggcorns are falling through someone's roof. But there's no hold
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: me in there. But you never know, man, Right, So
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know, we can have you on again
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: for sure. We can talk about whatever you'd like. It
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: has been very lightning, especially all the law enforcement stuff. Man,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that was that was interesting. Yeah. I really appreciate that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you came on today. Man.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I appreciate you having me.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we could do that. We'll just we'll talk
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: about what the next year will be. But sure, I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: really appreciate that. I hope you I hope you feel
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: better soon, my friend.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Alrighty, I thank you you have. I have a blessing.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah you too as well.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, all right, guys, hold on a second, all right,
• 1:00:46
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