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Best of Chuck in the Morning 7-28 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Ya Mason Athletics Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is kjr's special coverage of Seahawks training camp, brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by the twenty twenty sixth Boweing Plussic Cougus
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  Speaker 2: me Ridge. Details at Boeingplassic dot com. Now here's Chuck
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  Speaker 2: in the Morning on your home for the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: Champion twelve Man Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.
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  Speaker 1: Well, phenomenal morning to you all.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in today number two of kjar's training camp coverage.
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  Speaker 1: What a beautiful morning we've got going on. What a
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  Speaker 1: man that guy, he's pulling some strings up there to
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  Speaker 1: give us some brilliant mornings here to start training camp.
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  Speaker 1: We welcome you into the show.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Chuck Powell, and our special co host
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  Speaker 3: this week from week one of training camp coverage is
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  Speaker 3: here as well our QB one.
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  Speaker 1: You know him, you love him. Hugh Millan is here.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Good morning, Yeah, great to be
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at you. You pulled a Chuck Powell right there.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you pulled pulled out a blanket and put
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  Speaker 3: it over yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It's your coat, it's my coat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, shorts and a nippy morning don't go as well
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  Speaker 3: for the first segment or two, I'm gonna be uh,
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  Speaker 3: just give me a cardigan, sweater and I can look
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  Speaker 3: like mister Rogers at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I I love I'm the founder of Breeze Club.
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  Speaker 1: I love a good breeze. Okay, yeah, so at home, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the founder. Yeah, and uh yeah, someday I'll make
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  Speaker 1: billions off it. But I'll keep the place cold as
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  Speaker 1: possible if there's a nice breeze coming in, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'll just throw a blanket over there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's just been part of my operation since I
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  Speaker 1: was like a twenty five year old man.
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  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But all of a sudden I went with a
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  Speaker 1: buddy and we went and did like a weekend at
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  Speaker 1: his place and Sholo Arizona as a matter of fact. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and we're sitting there watching the movies and I just
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  Speaker 1: subconsciously like pulled the blanket over over me. And he
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  Speaker 1: looks over and he goes, what am I here with
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  Speaker 1: my wife? What? Because what do you do? What are
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  Speaker 1: you seventy three year old woman? What's going on over there?
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  Speaker 3: That's not exactly middle linebacker activity. No, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna bring it up to Charles Cross. Yeah, I can
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  Speaker 3: bring it up to you because we're friends. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe the kickers and the punters might yeah, might
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  Speaker 3: share it. Yeah yeah, but just yeah, keep keep that
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  Speaker 3: under and don't help me either.
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  Speaker 1: I won't. I won't, I did, I actually already.
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  Speaker 3: Well I'm sorry about it, Charles Cross, right, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: no that you got to earn the respect of the alignment.
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  Speaker 3: Your secret is safe with me. Uh well, great morning too.
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  Speaker 3: You can't wait to get Hughes observations from day number one.
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  Speaker 3: But can I just say one other quick aside before
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  Speaker 3: we get going.
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know that Terry Ryan's the best in the business, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: been for years. Yeah. I mean I've been around a
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  Speaker 1: lot of engineers. Nobody does it better, smoother, quicker, more efficiently.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he is, he is number one. But I
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  Speaker 1: finally have my first criticism of Terry Ryan. Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: he's sitting with an airshot. Yeah yeah, he turns out
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  Speaker 1: Terry Ryan is a tailgater.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I come into the You're just like outing everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I'm out and everybody. Wait all Ashley gets a load
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  Speaker 1: to me today. Yeah, I come in. I am behind
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  Speaker 1: a semi truck.
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  Speaker 3: There's nowhere that I can go unless I pass on
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  Speaker 3: Seahawk Lane, and all of.
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  Speaker 1: A sudden, somebody just flies up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, where do you think I'm gonna go, buddy,
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  Speaker 3: and it and and so I pull in. He's like
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  Speaker 3: pulling in right behind it, right on my tail. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't care who this is.
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  Speaker 1: If they're gonna say anything to me, I'm fighting. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care if it is Charles Cross. We're gonna fight
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  Speaker 1: in the park.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, and I can take it for a segment. I
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  Speaker 3: want to see you guys in an arcticon. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: say I was gonna start a fight. I said if
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  Speaker 3: he now said something to me about driving too slow,
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. If this is Sam Darnold, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna go to blows. Yeah, Terry, there's
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  Speaker 3: your opportunity. He driving around like Grandpa.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'm behind a semi. But you know, you could
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  Speaker 1: have been closer to the semi.
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  Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of room between you
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  Speaker 3: and that semi.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all going to the same playing the same
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  Speaker 3: spot and then so I'm going all the way to
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  Speaker 3: the k j R spots and I'm like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: guy's going to follow me.
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  Speaker 1: All the way. Do I deserve to be Terry? I don't. Didn't.
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  Speaker 1: He could have passed me if he wanted.
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  Speaker 3: I had six inches in front of me, and that's
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  Speaker 3: between me and the semi. I think I think Terry's
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  Speaker 3: in bus number one.
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  Speaker 1: Tailgater, Terry the tailgate.
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  Speaker 3: On a on a on a trip to uh to
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  Speaker 3: play Oregon. Yeah, pulled over and had a bus driver
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  Speaker 3: fired for having bus number two pass bus number one
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  Speaker 3: because he was in bust number one. That is a
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  Speaker 3: true story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, yes, yeah, that's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's crazy. You don't pass bust number Yeah. See, if
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  Speaker 3: I never brought up Terry the Tailgater, we would have
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  Speaker 3: never had James Jim like that. Yeah, he's got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of gems. Oh that man all right, By the way,
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  Speaker 3: I respect him more than any man I've ever known,
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  Speaker 3: including my father. Sorry, Dad, we're up there listening. But so, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's not what you said. Before Terry came here. Did
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  Speaker 3: you consider doing the slam on the brake steal to
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  Speaker 3: get his attention? I did know, but I did the
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  Speaker 3: flailing arms, like, do you not see what's in front
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  Speaker 3: of me?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you even saw that throwing digits around.
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  Speaker 3: No, didn't throw any digits, but I did slow down
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  Speaker 3: extra slow in the parking lot just to see making angry.
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  Speaker 3: So what was your immediate response when you realize that's
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  Speaker 3: Terry freaking right?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: When I pulled in, I'm like, I kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're narrowing it down, like it could be I know
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  Speaker 1: what hughes driving this week, So it's not Hugh. I
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  Speaker 1: thought Terry would be in the KJR van if it
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  Speaker 1: was Terry, but then oh yeah, but all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: he's got like a truck. He's got like a pickup truck,
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  Speaker 1: and so then he pulls in and I'm like, it's
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  Speaker 1: gotta be Terry, and it was Terry. And I did
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  Speaker 1: almost say something jokingly, but Terry already had stuff on
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  Speaker 1: his mind today, so he got out.
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  Speaker 3: Of the truck like, uh so you're playing into my theory, man.
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  Speaker 3: I tell my wife, I'm like, ninety of the A
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  Speaker 3: holes on the road are in a pickup truck, and
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  Speaker 3: the guys in a pickup trucker are a holes. Like
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  Speaker 3: like and by the way, I generally in other realms,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I have a real kinship with pickup drivers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, there's something about that. They come in hot
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  Speaker 3: behind you cut if you cut you off. Oh what
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  Speaker 3: a surprise. See I was just gonna go to the Silverado. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like that never happened before. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna stop at Terry the tailgat you
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  Speaker 1: went to Terry d a hole? Wow, wow, wow, look
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  Speaker 1: what happened in there?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I I'm ready to play on Chuck's side. Now, Terry,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think of that? So that's right, Well
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  Speaker 3: we're all need to get over the pass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well we should talk some foo y,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk some football. Hugh Mellon out here yesterday at
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  Speaker 1: training camp, day number three of training camp, and Hugh
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  Speaker 1: stalk on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 3: Not unlike Don James. You know, just look, I would
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  Speaker 3: need a tower. Yeah, you need a tower, need a
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  Speaker 3: tower for to do the DJ.
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  Speaker 1: I love that tower. Yeah that's Bear Bryant. Bryant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's Don James style.
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  Speaker 1: So Barry took it from Don James in my world, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, OK, no explanation demand. Okay a Don, Yes, so
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  Speaker 3: Don Bryant, I'll hoppied Don James. Okay, so everything Don
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  Speaker 3: James did, he was the first god.
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  Speaker 1: I wish you had a tower here. I wish they
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  Speaker 1: build you a tower. I want you to have a tower.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a chalkolate.
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  Speaker 3: Well there's a there's a tower with an electric cord.
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  Speaker 1: I could go. You might not have a close tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: He might stand hung out with the eagles up there.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So what we see? What what stood out
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  Speaker 3: to you yesterday? Well, I think the first thing I
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  Speaker 3: was not concerned about. What's curious was what is their
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  Speaker 3: backup with without Emon Worry? What what is their their
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  Speaker 3: what I'll call base Their base defense is what people
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  Speaker 3: call a nickel because Emon Worry is technically a dB,
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  Speaker 3: but he's an outside linebacker. And so it's kind of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if they lined they had to line up and play today,
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  Speaker 3: who would be the guy that replaces him? And as
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  Speaker 3: it turns out, they bring in Witherspoon. We talked yesterday
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  Speaker 3: about how, uh, the prior year twenty twenty four, Witherspoon
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  Speaker 3: only played thirty percent outside corner and he was inside
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  Speaker 3: Obviously the rest of his snaps. Then last year he
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  Speaker 3: was he was fifty one percent outside corner, so they're
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  Speaker 3: they're they're keeping him more outside. So yesterday was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a throwback to Witherspoon's first couple of years where
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  Speaker 3: he was inside more. And so they had Neamia Pritchett
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  Speaker 3: as the starting corner on one side opposite Josh job
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  Speaker 3: and uh and so you had Spoon on the uh
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  Speaker 3: on the inside and uh and and so that's that's
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  Speaker 3: again reminiscent of years past. And then would you practice
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  Speaker 3: that either way or do you did you see that as.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is in case Demon Worry is not here preparation, Well.
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  Speaker 3: I think you always have to have a plan. Even
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  Speaker 3: if Emon Worry had not had his ankle issue that
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  Speaker 3: put him on the pup list, and you would still
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  Speaker 3: have to have some conditional You wouldn't necessarily be practicing
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  Speaker 3: that in day three, like you know, you'd have your ones,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, just by attrition or or people
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  Speaker 3: you know, get strains or what have you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like in the first day of if everybody's
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  Speaker 3: start healthy and we say okay, ones. You know again,
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  Speaker 3: what their base defense is is technically a Nickel. Then
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  Speaker 3: all the healthy number ones are going to go out
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  Speaker 3: there and take those reps. So in this case, it
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  Speaker 3: would just be well, okay, even worries out. So okay,
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  Speaker 3: how do we handle that. We'll preach it. You go in,
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  Speaker 3: you play corner, Spoon, you drop into the slot. Now
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  Speaker 3: you're losing about thirty nine pounds by combine weight. You
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  Speaker 3: go from one eighty one to or two twenty to
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  Speaker 3: one eighty one. So and that's one of the issues
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  Speaker 3: why I think that Spoon was playing more outside there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and actually finished I thought last year pretty strong. After
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  Speaker 3: questioning him for most of his career, he actually did
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  Speaker 3: show I thought a spark. I thought he showed some
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  Speaker 3: improvement by the end of life. Yeah, yeah, okay, so
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  Speaker 3: just just as a refresher. So Neamyah Pritchard was a
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  Speaker 3: fourth rounder and three. This is his third year, six
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  Speaker 3: foot buck ninety and when he came in the league,
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  Speaker 3: got to Auburn, there was a feeling in that that
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  Speaker 3: maybe he didn't have the physicality, the physical presence that
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  Speaker 3: they wanted. So I think he's spent he spent time
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  Speaker 3: in the weight room, he transformed his body, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you, Chuck I've seen this countless times. Guys come
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  Speaker 3: in and and and they're not really ready to play hardball,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just mentally physically, they go in the weight room,
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they get jacked. They look in
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  Speaker 3: the mirror. Oh, man, I got some pecs, I got
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  Speaker 3: some you know, I got some volleyballs attached to my soldiers.
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  Speaker 3: And and and they see those guns, they feel those guns.
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  Speaker 3: It transforms their mind too. So now all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden they they play with a physical you know, it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I earned the right to go be nasty and and
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  Speaker 3: and it's it's it's like it always happens. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: when a guy comes in, he's skinny, he hasn't really
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  Speaker 3: committed himself to weight room. You've got the physical deficiency,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got the mental deficiency in his mind somehow,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the kazoo on his shoulder is telling him, dude,
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  Speaker 3: you can't play hardball in this league. You know. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're living on twigs and berries like you got like
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  Speaker 3: you know, we can need some red meat in your ass.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: And and uh and so.
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  Speaker 3: So I think the mental transformation accompanies the physical transformation
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  Speaker 3: almost without fail And I think that's what's happened with him.
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  Speaker 3: So I think he's ready to get feisty. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's ready to get nasty. And he always had the
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  Speaker 3: physical traits, uh, you know, the movement traits, but the
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  Speaker 3: physicality is coming along. So I think that he's one
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  Speaker 3: of the guys. You know, look, Rick Willan's gone. He's
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  Speaker 3: an eagle. And so I think if you're a real
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  Speaker 3: Seahawk fan, you're saying, okay, tell me about the corners,
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  Speaker 3: and I would, I would submit to you on the
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  Speaker 3: entire roster. This is a this is a talented, deep roster.
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  Speaker 3: There's a reason why they're no worse than the top five.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're in the top five by anybody's estimation
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  Speaker 3: in terms of Super Bowl. You know most people are
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  Speaker 3: saying top two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, there's good reasons and we're going to discuss all that.
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  Speaker 3: But if you said, okay, where they made perhaps the
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  Speaker 3: least deep, I guess that would be the shallowest on
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  Speaker 3: the roster. I would say it's cornerback. So so I
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  Speaker 3: think I think it's it's a conversation piece. This is
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  Speaker 3: not going to be the last time we talked about
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  Speaker 3: the cornerbacks. You mentioned Bud Clark yesterday. Did he pop
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  Speaker 3: it all to you? You know, I will confess that
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  Speaker 3: my vision of Bud Clark, after listening to Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 3: on the night he was drafted and evaluating him on
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  Speaker 3: his TCU tape, I had anticipated that they would want
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  Speaker 3: to play him more down by the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 3: and have him front and back. He's more he's been
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  Speaker 3: more of a back end guy, like a Kobe Bryant replacement.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I expected that maybe they.
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  Speaker 3: Wanted some versatility, that when they went dime, you'd have
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  Speaker 3: Emon Worry on one side, you'd have Bud Clark on
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  Speaker 3: the other, and you would leave that would leave Spoon
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  Speaker 3: and job to the outside for now. But Bud Clark
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  Speaker 3: was playing in the back end. I put my eyes
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  Speaker 3: on him a lot number nine. But I would say
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  Speaker 3: there there wasn't really a lot of opportunities where where
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  Speaker 3: he was showcased near the ball. The ball didn't really
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  Speaker 3: find him yesterday. That just that, and that's just uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, typical often so, so I wouldn't really say
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  Speaker 3: that that he he stood out to me because he
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  Speaker 3: didn't make any really big plays. He didn't make any
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  Speaker 3: big mistakes. It's it's like he didn't have an opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's like evaluating a right fielder and the ball
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  Speaker 3: never came came to him, right. You know, Well, he
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  Speaker 3: he jogged after the ball that the center fielder caught,
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  Speaker 3: and he looked good, you know, fill in the space.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, we didn't really see what he could do.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, I think I think also while we're on
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  Speaker 3: that subject, I think already Burns, who we've known from
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  Speaker 3: from years past. Uh you know, he's a guy that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be down near the Lion scrimmage, an overhang
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  Speaker 3: defender that the you know, the nickel the dime type thing.
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  Speaker 3: And and and I think where he I remember from
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  Speaker 3: the Raider preseason game. I really liked him down by
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. When he has to play in
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  Speaker 3: the back end. He just does not see the field well.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't take good angles, he doesn't react well. So
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  Speaker 3: I think what you can anticipate is is that you're
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  Speaker 3: you may see twenty is he twenty three again? But
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  Speaker 3: but uh uh, he's going to be a guy that
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to ask. Uh uh did
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  Speaker 3: I say Lardy Burns?
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was thinking the Anthony Bell. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Any Anthony Bell. I'm sorry, I was thinking the Anthony Bell.
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  Speaker 3: My mouth said, aready Burns. I think they weren't the
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  Speaker 3: same number in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, he's at six one, two eleven, so you know
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  Speaker 3: he's packing a little bit more, you know, close to
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  Speaker 3: well exactly twenty pounds more than Witherspoon when he comes in.
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  Speaker 1: So so I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: The Anthony Bell is a guy that is better closer
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  Speaker 3: to the line of scrimmage. So the whole dB situation
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  Speaker 3: I already think was a little bit of a concern. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: even as the roster uh uh presently constituted. I think
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  Speaker 3: with Eamon worry that you know, that complicates you know,
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  Speaker 3: who's going to be in their nickel and their dime packages.
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  Speaker 3: And again I don't wanna, I don't want to sound
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  Speaker 3: in the alarms.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a very deep and talented team, and they're
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  Speaker 3: fun to watch practice because you just see a lot
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  Speaker 3: of dudes out there. But if you're monitoring, if you're
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: if you're pressing for some some moderate concerns, that's what
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: we've been discussed. Well, to bring a full circle, does
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: it make sense that maybe like a d Anthony Bell,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: who might crowd the line of scrimmage, might be a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: tailgater where uh like Cam Chancellor probably is a real
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: tailgat where Earl Thomas, it gives you a lot of room. Yeah, well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: if Cam Chancellers are here, you know what you just say,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: You just put your blinker on, get over to the
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: right and let him go by and wave while he
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: goes by. You know what. In fact, absolute if he
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: got knocked out by camp, chats all right, it might
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: be a feather in my cap.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people might think of me more fondly. Yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: he took one and he lived to tell about it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, And and and the attorney might be, uh
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: might be hustling you to go after him. That's right,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: because you were gonna you were gonna have a broken jaw.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: At the least you'll you'll be eating out of a
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: straw for six weeks. Chuck just just saying, uh, oh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that didn't think that my camp was gonna start with
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: thoughts of suing.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Bam bam, but uh, maybe we will.
• 18:33
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  Speaker 1: Kenny McIntosh waived yesterday. We'll get the reasons from Greg
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Bell coming up at seven o five today. Also, Greg
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and others wrote quite a bit about Jadarian Price's practice yesterday.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: We'll get huge thoughts on that as we go along.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But Greg will join us at seven oh five. And
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, Charles Cross will be with us today
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: at seven forty five here on the radio program. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I've promised not to tell him that Hugh and I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: like a blankie. Also from the National Football League, Witherspoon
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: negotiations keep going on. Meanwhile, former Husky Vida Veya has
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: told the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I'm done negotiating trade me
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so they've got some contractual issues in Tampa, not just
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: with their quarterback Baker Mayfield, but also the great Vitavea. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll find some time talk about that later on
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in the show.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: The Storm returned to the court tonight, second half of
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the season and the WNBA first game after the All
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Star Break, and they take on the Indiana Fever and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the suddenly red hot Caitlin Clark again.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Six point thirty is your tip MLS on All Star
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  Speaker 1: Break this week. I'm gonna mention that all week long,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: because that is one stupid thing. And then, of course,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: we are six days away from the Major League Baseball
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: trading deadline, and things have gotten very complicated for Jerry
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Depoto and Justin Hollander because the team's not playing well.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: They lost three out of four in Texas. They've gone
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: five and eleven in their last sixteen. They are farther
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: below five hundred than they've been this year, and they
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: just so happened to face the best team in baseball
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the next three nights, in the Los Angeles Dodgers, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so I don't know, maybe you do have to put
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: any trade deadline plans on pause right now, because if
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you somehow end up six games under five hundred and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: three days. I'm not sure that's a team that buys
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline. After all, Brendan Donovan is expected
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to be activated in time for tonight. It's been a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: while since we've seen him, and man, the Mariners offense
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: could use all the help they can get. We'll talk
• 21:17
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• 21:19
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• 21:22
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  Speaker 1: We got Hugh Millin right here. He spent some time
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: on the ridge in snow quality, that's for sure. If
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you were sitting around with your buddies breaking down Rashid
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Shaheed's contract and need for production this year, what would
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you tell them?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I think that he's let's just stipulate he's the premier
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: return guy in the NFL.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know that to be the case, but it
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: passes the sniff test, right. You know, you had three
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: touchdowns last year and two of them are on kickoff returns.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: One was a punt. He's a hold your breath kind
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of a threat on both kickoffs and punts. As a receiver,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you've got last year he was twelve games. He was
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: acquired November fourth, twelve games tour in sixty six yards
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: for a seventeen game season. That's a pace for three
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy seven yards. That's not enough for seventeen
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: million in my opinion, when you watch the tape there,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: let let's let's talk about the receivers. If if you're
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: coaching receivers, the the building blocks, Like if you learn
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: the alphabet, then you say, okay that the letters are
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the the roots of a word.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Learn C and A and T. That's cat there. Let's
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: let's talk about four main types of releases. When when
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: you when you have your vertical stem. Yeah, okay. So
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I'm the receiver, you're the cornerback. I run right at you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to sell the go route to run by you.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I create separation by by convincing you that I'm gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: run deep. Then you back, you back pedal, you, you
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: turn it and run faster. You say, oh, oh crap,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: because that's the that's the thing you don't want is
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: me to beat you deep. Right, So now there's let
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: let's just say and there's more. But the four main
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: ones are are we can break at right angles out
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: or in okay, right angles on an inbreaking route or
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: an outbreaking round. And that can be one of two things.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: We're either gonna speed cut it, so I'm gonna come
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: at you. My momentum is gonna take me up the field,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna speed cut and go to the inside,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: and it's roughly a ninety degree bend to the inside,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: or if my split is tight enough, I can run
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: at you and I can speed cut to the out
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: or I can come up and come to a stop
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and do a square in or a square out. Okay,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: so now there's those are two type of breaks. Then
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: there's you remember this term from school, acute. What's an
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: acute angle. Acute is less than ninety degrees. I come
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: at you, I drop my hips, I stop, I come
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: back at an acute angle to the quarterback in breaking
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: route that's like hook routes out breaking round that's like
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a comeback.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So we've got acute angles.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: And then the opposite of acute is up two s
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: greater than ninety degrees.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So now I'm coming at you.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I break to the inn on an obtuce angle, that's
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: a post break to day out on an obtuse angle,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it's a corner. So if you're just saying the fundamental
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: building blocks, h of the first four letters you're gonna
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: learn about route running are those four acute break, a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: right angle, speed cut, at right angle, square cut, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: an obtus got it, got it. So when you evaluate him,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: this is just the core of your route technique. His
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: speed cuts are better than his square cuts or his
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: acute cuts. It take he telegraphs when he's gonna come
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to a stop.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Uh. I think it takes him too long.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: His kind of shoulders come back and and so there's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: not an explosion. Now there's not an in and out
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: explosion to him. Now he's got the all the speed
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: you would want, right, but he doesn't track the ball.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of of uh miss. I'll just two
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: off the top of my head from last season one
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: on a uh going to the north side. I don't
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: remember the opponent, but I know he's going to the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: north end zone. He was aligned on the right. Sam
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Darnold threw the ball into a hole uh uh between
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: two defenders, and Donald was seen that, Hey, the guy
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: that the with uh, the trailing defender, we gotta pull.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I gotta pull you into that hole where he was thinking,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna settle in. Settling in his zone is the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: right thing to do. But it's at the right time,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: in the right pace. Like Jack and Smith and Jigba
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: is giving you a five hundred level class in how
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: to do that exactly how He's easy to read. He
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: has great instincts about when and and to what degree
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: do I idle in a hole?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Uhuh? Here uh, this this is the.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Post routes white up and and uh, Donald smokes it
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: in there just as she heat is slowing down. And
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it looks like the balls out in front. And you
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: say that's on the quarterback. No, you look at the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: hole from the end zone. Copy like Shaheed, you got
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: to go into that hole and get it because that
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: defen Donald is worried about the defender that you're passing,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: because he could he could converge on the play. The
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the defender out in front is not a problem. Another
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: one on a on a post route, Uh, he's Donald's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: expecting to cross the face. He starts across the face,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: then goes behind him. It look looks like he misses
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: by ten yards.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: That's what he deeked the quarterback.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So there's some just instinctive things about his just elements
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of his receiving game that need polish. He's got all
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the speed you'd want. He doesn't track the ball great.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So so I I just I think, I I think
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: it's you know, it's gonna improve. Yeah, I think it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: gonna be better because he you know, again, he was
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: acquired November fourth. But those are some of the concerns
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I have with Seattle in my opinion needs a solid
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: number two. I don't think he's proven to be a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: solid number two. He could be a number two. What
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: these are the questions I have that need to get
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: ironed out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Well, perhaps in the now that he's planted in the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: JSN garden, he'll soak up some of those nutrients, you know, Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and maybe he'll flourish. All right, More on that later
• 28:12
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• 28:15
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• 28:59
  Speaker 1: with the home run, but not nearly enough. Mariners loss
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to the Texas Rangers yesterday, seven to three. They lose
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: three out of four in the Dallasport Worth area. They
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: are two and a half games back of the Rangers
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: now and get set to take on the Dodgers in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles for the next three days. First pitch tonight
• 29:17
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• 29:21
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• 29:26
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• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and so feels very important sitting here six days away
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  Speaker 1: Greg. Greg was getting annoyed that I was bringing up
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: his parking space a lot yesterday, but I am gonna
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: because I'm that kind of guy, I'm gonna bring it
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: up one more time. Are you sure it wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Bell's parking space that you're.
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: Parking in, Greg, I am sure he has his own
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: spot in the back.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're right, You're good, You're golden.
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: I just don't I don't want people to think I'm
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: entitled or oh I appreciate I appreciate that twenty one
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: years on doing NFL training camps. I appreciate that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You have well earned it. I am.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I'm totally pulling your leg on all of this, but yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that ship sailed there. Everybody thinks you're entitled, Kreg, stop
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: worrying about it. Which I was entitled, which.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I had something to be entire all right, Well, let's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: dive into it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Kenny Macintosh, who we've heard about for the last three years,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and how much do the Seahawks like him? But see,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: he just can't get on the football field. Yesterday he
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: was away from the team. So was it just a
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: feeling that he wasn't going to get healthy enough?
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: That's that's part of it. And a lot of times
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: when players are injured or on an injury list and
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: they're waved, there is some sort of agreement or settlement
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: that after X amount of weeks he would become a
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: free agent to sign with another team. What makes it
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: if he was if he was on an injured list,
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: that counted that did not count against the roster. He
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: would be waived injured. It'd be a settlement, a lump
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: some money, and then he'd have an X amount of
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: weeks and get to sign with another team or even
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: potentially back with the Seahawks. But training camp rules are
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: if you're on the puppeis speaking training camp, you still
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: count against the ninety man roster. So he was still
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: counting against the roster, which is why he's just outright wave.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: But he's definitely injured. He's twelve months out from his
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: latest very serious knee injury that Mike McDonald said on
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: Saturday was a really unfortunate and rough injury for him
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: that has him behind in coming back from it. That's
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: why he doesn't have a waved injury designation because he's
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: already counted against the roster. But he's young enough, even
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: though he's had three years now of injuries, he's young
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: enough just in his third NFL season after they drafted
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: the seventh round twenty twenty three out of Georgia that
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: he could pursue possibilities elsewhere if he gets healthy and
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: is cleared medically to do that. That's a big af
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: of course, because that's the whole reason he was in
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: this situation to begin with. It also speaks too, they
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: want to give a longer look to Emmanuel Wilson, the
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: Green Bay running back. They signed a Packer's five hundred
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: yard rusher, and they signed him in the off season,
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: pretty much an overlooked deal because of the drafting of
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: j Price. But Wilson for the first time yesterday was
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: running first team reps. It's the first time I noticed
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: him in OTA's mini camp or training camp. Through three
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: days that he was with the Ones. We'll see, but
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: they've obviously moved on to other options, including their rookie
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: first round pick who had his best day yet to
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: Durian Price yesterday, George Alani who's still alternating with Price
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: at the Ones, and now Emmanuel Wilson moving up too.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of chatter about Sharbonay being out
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: or ahead of schedule. If if you had to play KP,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you know, closest to the pen, which I don't never
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: understood why that was a CP.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: But they call it KP.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: But well, if you had to pick the date down
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: to the game, what week do you think Sharbonet is
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: active in carrying the football for.
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: The Seahawks, probably October, maybe mid October. Yes, he's surprised
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: everybody when he was out on the field during mini
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: camps and doing hurdler type stretching and jogging and high stepping.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: But he still didn't have the surgery until February, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: it's reconstructive knee surgery. Even when he comes back to
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: the field, they're not just going to throw him into
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: a game. There's going to be a multi week maybe
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: up to a month of ramping up processing, to make
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: sure the knee is fine and reconstructed, can handle lateral
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: movement and all the things that a running back has
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: to do. I think best case is October. That's supposition
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: on my part. McDonald keeps saying it is anybody who's
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: going to blow all the estimates of recovery, it's going
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: to be this guy for how fiendishly hard he works.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: But eight to twelve months is typical. February is the
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: second month of the year, October is the tenth. That
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: would be the eighth month on the short side.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So if Jadarian Price is the greyhound and Halani is
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the mechanical wrap, how far down the track before the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: greyhound catches up.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: I think it's close. If he proves he can be
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: in the pass game, if he can catch in pass block,
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: he'll be the start. He's going to be the starter
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: week one. It's just when he takes over that role
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: from halani Is. It's when he masters the pass game.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: I mentioned Thomas Hammick, the new running backs coach, is
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: just throwing football after football after him every day. Talk
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: about Price. All the running backs too, but they are
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: making a concerted effort to get Price into the pass game.
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: I mentioned yesterday, he's the only one I've noticed who
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: scrimmages on the first, the second, and the third team offenses.
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: He catches passes from all the quarterbacks and then eleven
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: on eleven scrimmages. They split him out wide, they send
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: him outside. Yesterday they had him on a wheel route
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: and he made a tremendous move on Ernest Jones that
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: after practice, Jones, that was a hellum a move. This
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: guy's good man. He's going to help us. A real story.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: That was my lead to my story from yesterday's practice
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: about Ernest Jones praising a rookie in his third training
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: camp practice in the NFL. He has elusiveness, He has
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: open field ability. He seems natural in the outside zone.
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: He said that's his thing. Of all the plays and
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: schemes that Notre Dame ran, that's the one he enjoyed
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: and thought it fits his skills the most. So now
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: it's just a past game, and I think it's just
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: a matter of weeks not months for that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Not exactly Chubby either. He didn't let himself go this offseason.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Jidian Price, No, not cutting candy and ho hoos and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that guy great.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's stay on that topic. I agree, he
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: looks great. And of course we're we're not talking by
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: normal standards a guy walking around the mall. We're talking
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: about running running back in the NFL standards, Okay, And
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: so I think his upper body impresses me. There was
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of question about how he weighed in ten
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: pounds under his listed weight at the combine. Greg, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: don't know, man. When I first laid eyes on him,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: they were wearing shorts yesterday. I thought, WHOA, those are
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: some skinny legs. They're not skinny legs for a wide receiver,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: but they're skinny red legs for running back. He only
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: had that, believe, seven touches a game because of Jeremiah
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Love at Notre Dame.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: So I have.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Durability concerns about him precisely for that reason. I think
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I think he's undersized and and he's never really had
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: to have a you know, fifteen game, fifteen touch of
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: game type of a load, which I which I would
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: hope he could be able to withstand given you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: at least the.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: First interesting a couple of months. Is there a concern't?
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think that, ass I think he needs more lead,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: Greg Bill, do you do you know of any concern
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: about the weight and part of the seaot camp.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: Well, they say, the scouts say, Price himself said that
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: he overtrained in the pre combine process and lost weight
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: doing it running and sprinting and focus on forty times
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: and all of that. I don't know if that's an
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: alhibi or a reason, but it's the double edged sword
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: to what you just mentioned. He wasn't the primary back
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: at Notre Dame. Jeremiah loved the third pick in the
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: draft by the Cardinals was and therefore they don't know
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: there's a tantalizing ceiling to him. But there's also a
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: big unknown, and durability is one of them, and he
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: didn't have that role. He didn't catch passes and pass
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: block on third down at Notre Dame loved it. He
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: price was returning kickoffs and playing sparingly, as you said,
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: seven touches a game at times. So that is also
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: the perils of the position. You and I know, we
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: know that running back is the most attruated position in
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: the sport. It's the one with the lowest shortest career span.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: As Chris Carson about that, there is a lot of unknowns.
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: There was a high ceiling. It's almost not quite high risk,
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: but high unknown potential, high reward. With this first round pick,
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: the fact that he was picked in the first round,
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks aren't going to put him on the sideline.
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: He is going to be the lead running back to
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: get the opportunities to see if he is durable.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell is with us. If
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you want to follow him, we urge you to do
• 40:31
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• 40:33
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• 40:36
  Speaker 1: time for training camp and for the entire calendar year,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we get him every day at seven oh five during
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the football season, most every day, and there's certainly a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: lot to discuss here at training camp day number three
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in the books, I did notice in your most recent
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to write up about day three that how the practice ended,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and feel free to wait in on that, But it
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: involved Jalen Milroe. And so what I'm really curious about is,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a really interesting subject a year
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: ago at this time, but Sam Darnold just kind of
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: took over the quarterback room from an early point and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: then led them to a Super Bowl, and so it
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: just didn't seem like there was any room for air
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for any kind of trick play attempt again with Jalen
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Milroe to try to change things up on the football field.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: So I guess, long way of asking, what is the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: vision for Jalen Milroe's future.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: Well long term? And they have quite down quite a
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: bit the talk of human being a Taysom Hill type,
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: run the ball, plug him in in special situations. That
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: fumble against Tampa Bay at the beginning of October with
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: a third game he appeared in in the last game
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: spooked Clinktuviac and Mike McDonald and they said, well, we
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: have this carnival act if he's just going to turn
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: the ball over. We're not doing this anymore. In fact,
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: after that game in early October, Milrae wasn't even active
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: for the rest of the season, not at once. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: they shelved that pretty quickly after just three snaps. And
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: it doesn't look like they're going to have a package
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: for him. I haven't seen him come running into the
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: first team huddle to do anything, none of that. He
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: is not an NFL quarterback right now, but he doesn't
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: have to be. When you draft a quarterback except for
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: Russell Hoilson, who was quite an exception. If you draft
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: a quarterback in second day, he's a project. And if
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: you have an established starter it just took you the
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: Super Bowl. You don't need that third round pick from
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: last year to be an NFL ready quarterback. You would
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: like him to be that by year three or four,
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: the end of his rookie deal. He's not there yet.
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: And his accuracy of his throwing and if they're not
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: going to use him as a run specialist in the
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: starting offense, he is just there break glass in case
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: of emergency. And that is because Drew lock is still here.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: So the veteran Locke who has starting experience, of course
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: with Denver in fence, hitting with the Seahawks and winning
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: a Monday night game inst the Eagles a couple years
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: ago is obviously their option if anything happens that Darnold
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: and that Leeves Milrow a distant third. I think they're
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: a little I don't want to use the word concerned,
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: but they definitely notice his accuracy issues and that's something
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: that now he's got another offensive coordinator his fourth and
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: four years counting Alabama to work with on that. There's
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: a road to hoe here for him.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg Bill with us, and I think it's accuracy
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: issues and kind of processing. You see a lot of
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: checkdowns and you don't see a lot of completions down
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Greg.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: There were some stories coming out from Saturday that maybe
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: it surprised some but nicest seed number fifteen, Tory Wharton
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: out on the feel on Saturday, but yesterday's nowhere to
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: be seen. I didn't even see him walking on the sideline.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: He certainly didn't practice. What do we know about the
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: off injured Tory Horton today?
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you it's part of their pacing plan for Horton
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: coming back from the shin injury from November. Two practices
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: on one off apparently wouldn't surprise me. If he's off
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: again today, because then the team is off tomorrow, that
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: would give him three days off. It's still July. It
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: did surprise me he wasn't on the pup list to
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: begin training camp. I thought he would be because we
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: didn't see him on the field at all during the spring,
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: So in that lens, it's not too surprising that he
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: would get a day off three days in. He did
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: come out late and practice in tennis shoes to watch,
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: but it's a slow ramp up for him because he
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: hasn't been on the field at all since November.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: All right, man, what do you got for ten o'clock today?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Just reacting?
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: No more than that. And the Anthony Bell is fascinating
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: to me. He is in nick emn Warri's role. He's
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: not eating nick emun Worri. But right now he's got
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: the job on the starting offense. It's being the sam linebacker,
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: moving up from safety when they go extra defensive backs.
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: It's a second chance for him. They tried to sneak
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: him through waivers getting back on the practice squad nine
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: different times last year, and on the ninth time and
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: late actually January first, Carolina Panthers claimed him, so he
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: watched the Super Bowl from Seattle, his home, while his
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: teammates he played fourteen games with the Seahawks were darn
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: winning the Super Bowl in Santa Clara. The Seahawks voted
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: him to get a Super Bowl ring. That's how much
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: they liked him. Well and behold, the Panthers waived him
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: because he asked him to cut him so that he
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: could sign back with the Seahawks, and he didn't hear.
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: He is in the starting defense. You'll hear from him
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: at ten twenty or seven eleven o'clock sat down with
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: Derek Hall. Really good talk about his mother. He was born,
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: of course, prematurely, two pounds nine ounces, just twenty three weeks,
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: given no chance to live, and now he's a forty
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: six million dollars Super Bowl champion linebacker. He bought his
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: mom a house. He paused, and I thought he might
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: begin to break down a little bit emotionally when I
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: asked him about how important it was to him to
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: take care of his mom, who took care of him.
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: You'll hear from that at eleven o'clock.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, great stuff, all right, well, we'll see you
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: here in a couple hours.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah sure, well thanks guys.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, Greg bel our Seahawks insider, joining us so right
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: here on Chuck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: point three KJRFM.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: We'll continue with our coverage of training camp, and of
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: course we will slip in some of our dailies and
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: weeklies in regards to the Mariners. Seems like a good
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: time for ABC's of the ms. It comes your way
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: next Sports Radio ninety three.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Point three KJRFM. Flory and the Offense which they got
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: talk of camp we're gonna get to and Charles Cross
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: will be joining us here at our set at seven
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: forty five here today, Good morning, It is Chuck and
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Hugh with you here from Seahawks training camp, date number on.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Getting ready to get started.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Our second day of coverage here at kJ R and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: almost all Seahawks talk here today, but we do Mariner
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Morning after. We also on a daily basis do the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: ABC's of the ms and we will not skip that. Uh.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you you know, gives me a
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: swirly in the bathroom in there, I'm gonna come out
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: here with toilet our hair now stop with that. There's
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: no bit there. I have not one time. You're right
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: said said like like we got to talk less MS.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I'm good with MS. I understand where we are. We
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: we got M talk man, we got a little bit
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: M yeah yeah uh, and I got the ABC ZMS
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: we left off of the letter Jay.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I've already discussed this a little bit for a little
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: bit earlier in the show, but I think it's worth
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: repeating because I think it really is where the team
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is right now, uh, the the large scale of a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: baseball year. And here we are six days away from
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball trading deadline, and the team is
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: playing not just not well. Maybe you could even say
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: they're playing poorly, horribly, whatever adjective that you want to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: use to describe it. And so as we get the jay,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Jay is for jail. They are sort of in trade
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: deadline jail right now. Because I think they were planning
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: on this entire year to be aggressive buyers at this point.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: This has been the idea of a championship push, championship season.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: They have felt all off season, all spring training that
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: this was going to be a World Series contender, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: here we set three games under five hundred two and
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a half games out of first place, losers of eleven
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of their last sixteen, can't get it straight four and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: six since the All Star Break against some rather subpar
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: competition based on what's coming up here soon. And I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: still think, per our conversation earlier, Hugh, that they are
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: in a mindset to buy, being just two and a
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: half games out. They've got too much invested in this
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: team this season. But they also are getting ready to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: face the Dodgers the next three days and then dream
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: more tough games before the actual trade deadline hits. And
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit in jail, not exactly
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: knowing you know, how to how to do this now
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: because it's looking weaker than at any point, and if
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you end up having a bad week this week, how
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: aggressive are you going to be between now and the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: trading deadline on adding to this baseball team and a
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: market where the cell it's a seller's market, They're just there.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: There just are enough teams that are selling right now
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline to provide some sort of robust
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: market to try to get a hitter and a pitcher.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like this is a less uh less
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: of a buyer's market than than in the last couple
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: of years, because they've ever they've been aggressed, maybe ever
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: so so that that's obviously a vital component.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Toll.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you think of the optics not just for
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: US fans, but inside the clubhouse where Jerry you know, uh,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: you know he went after Naylor last year. Ahenno, you
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: know Castillo a couple of years back, like two years ago.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: So there's been every year they've made a significant acquisition.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: If they don't this year, you know, there, i'd be
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: concerned about the messaging coming from the front office.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Well again, I I still think right now they're of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: a mind but I think that they might where you
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: might you might have wanted to make a trade today,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you might be of the mindset of let's see what
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: happens in this Dodgers series, or let's see what happens
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: over the next five or six games. It could dictate
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: how aggressive we're going to be here at the trading deadline.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Not to mention, the markets dried up in the last
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Casey Schmidt from San Francisco was supposedly viable.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: He's now injured. Spencer Steer is going to miss significant
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: time with a wrist injury. So he's off, he's off
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the market. We've had three major injuries here in the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: last forty eight hours to possible candidates to trade for.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know where their mind's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: at right now. Feels to me like you know, they're
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: in jail, not prison. Yeah, you know, but they're in
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: jail right now and wondering, Hey, is anybody gonna post
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: bail for me? You know, they need somebody to post
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: bail in this Dodger series.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: What about so if you said the whist list, a
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: guy who can hit left handed pitching would be number one,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: number one, and then bullpen where you Yeah, now, what.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: About Well, I think they could.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I think they could add I don't think it's as
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: pressing a need is because if you are in it
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and you're going down the playoffs, I mean, you could
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: potentially have Anderson and Sloan and then whatever starter doesn't
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: make your rotation.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: For the playoffs, but you got to get into the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: playoffs first. Yeah, if they added a relief picture, yes,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: we could use a relief pitcher, we could use an
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: extra arm, but the hitter is the most important thing.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Hitter's the most important thing.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Obviously, unless you're getting a d H he's going to
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: be a field player, you know, just kind of fiddling
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: through with the saber metrics. When when I see the
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Mariners are either first or last in something, he gets
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: my attention and and and don't ask me to explain
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: the details of how they come up with this runs
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: above average as attributed to defensive range. Okay, I couldn't
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: give you the nuanced details of that, but some people
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: out there have endeavored to do this, and I don't
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: know if GPS tracking or what have you, and they
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: have a numeric calculation. The range in the major leagues
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: is from thirty five is the best and negative twenty
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: four is the worst. And the Mariners are negative twenty four.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: They are the worst according to this, that they have
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: the worst defensive range. And then those same people endeavor
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: to say, okay, how good are the arms out in
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: the field, and they say the Mariners are twenty first
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: out of thirty teams. So we're talking about a very
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: poor defensive team. And so as we're thinking about acquiring
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: a bat right that can hit left handed pitching, at
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: least some consideration has got to be considered well. Candy
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: also upgrade us. Can we put Randy at DH and
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: find a left fielder that can hit left hand handed
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: pitching and so upgreatest.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: And left field right?
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I agree, but then Ken Zone has to play right field,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: and that's a downgrade from who you would have at
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: rallyan Roeblaze. Donovan is coming off the injury list and
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: he has to play somewhere because he played third base,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: and if so, if he's a third he's even worse.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Than JP defensively. So I don't disagree with you, but
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's going to be a little
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: bit difficult considering how cold the market is to thread
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: these needles, and I wonder just how aggressive of a
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: mindset that they have. My guess is they're going to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: play a few games here before they actually leap. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: think they still will, but I think that they might,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you know, wait a few days, just to see where
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the team's at after this Dodger series.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Ks for Kirby, I know he was rough yesterday. He's
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: been terrific. I mean, four great starts, six good too
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: great starts in a row. He just didn't have it
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: in a really important period yesterday, a really big game
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: for the team yesterday. But I think he's fine and
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be traded at the
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: trading deadline. And then finally Els for Los Angeles. The
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Dodgers have the best record in Major League Baseball. They're
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the best team in Major League Baseball, but they are
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: not playing their best right now. They have gone eight
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: to eight in their last sixteen. They have Justin Robleski
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: starting tonight and he was an All Star for them
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: this year. But we're going to miss all of their
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: big arms.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I mean most of them are on the injury list,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Like Otani's not available, Glasnow's not available, Snell's not available,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: We're missing Yamamoto. I mean, if you're gonna pick a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: window to face the Dodgers, it would be Robleski, lower
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: and Sasaki, and that's who we have over the next
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: three games. So we're not catching the Dodgers at their healthiest.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Oh Tani's got a knee iss issue, Will Smiths on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the injury list, and they're pitching is ravaged with injuries.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: So if we are if there's a good time to
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: catch the Dodgers, it probably is in the next three days.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: All right, Charles Cross.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Gonna join us next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Just and is that right? Is it alright? A fire dude? Okay?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: How about me? Okay?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: All right? I didn't know if there was a chuck
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: thing that I'm getting in.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: The way of Uh. Well, great to see you, man.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: How are things? How's camp going so far? Going great?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: So far?
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: Just happy to be back in the building, back to practice, man,
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: back with the guys. Excited for the for the upcoming season,
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: upcoming next days.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: We just had Abe on yesterday on the program. He
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: was sitting right there twenty four hours ago. So give me,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: give me, give me something on Abe. Give me, give
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: me a little dirt on Abe here.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: I have no dirt on a. It was a great teammate.
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: He's a very smart individual. He recently just told me
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: about this book I should check out. Yeah, So I'm
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: gonna cheick it out in the next couple of days
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: and see how I like it. What's the book winning?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Like Tim Rover is like a self help like a
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: competitive mindset type thing.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Mentality. I feel like it's more more about mentality than anything.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, what and is that advantage you're looking to gain,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: like like like take us into the mind of you,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: an athlete, professional athlete, about where your head speace and
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: is and and and what's the ideal place you can
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: be in with regard to winning and and and your approach.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: I fight from from just just from a jumper is
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: just like a mindset. So getting yourself in the right mindset,
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: speaking yourself up, talking positive to yourself, believing in yourself.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's the way I go about the majority.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Charles Cross is with us right here on Chuck in
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three k j
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: R f M. Training camp coverage continues. Uh, you played
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: it to Mississippi State. Did you ever have practices like this? Oh,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: weather like this?
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: It was probably a little bit hotter, Yeah, I think so.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Got lake coming across here. Well, it's gonna.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: It's gonna get hot in in uh in December when
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: you guys play the Rams. And when I heard that
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: the Rams acquired Miles Garrett, the very first person the
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: next synapse in my brain was Charles Cross. Because Miles
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Garrett had eighty four point two percent of his snaps
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: on some version of right edge, which is across from you.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: What what went through your mind when you first heard
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has come to the Rams.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: Oh for me, Like, I'm just worried about myself, Like
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: no matter what they do, no matter what defense through,
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: Like I have to I have to prepare myself every
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: day and be a professional. So we're don't going to
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: getst Miles Garrett or somebody else that doesn't matter, Like
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: same preparation each week.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gray was like bringing on? Did you sell Gray? Like, hey,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: chill out?
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: No, I mean like this period, Yeah, like we that
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: we have in you know, it's not gonna go away? Yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: what's that?
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I mean for a long time before you got here,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: it was probably will be the biggest issue when we talking.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: About the Seahawks the offensive line. Fans just every year
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: in sports talk radio, we gotta affect the offensive line.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: That's not happening anymore. We're not having that conversation anymore.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: And yet you guys, as a group we're together for
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: the first time a year ago this five and you're
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: all back together as a starting group here in year
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: number two. How much better will you be from a
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: cohesion standpoint from even a year ago in your estimation.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: I feel like this is this a rare occasion just
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: having the same guys in the same room just start
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: off with. But I feel like it just gives us
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: an age to to be able to have have greater
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: confiinulity now and just continue to build on it from
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: last year to this year going to training camp into
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: the season. So I fight, this is a great opportunity
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: for let's just take a vanage of it.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Charles Cross with us. Now.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: The club showed you their faith in you and your
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: how they believe in it and with the with the
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: unbelievable pay check that you got and the rays you got.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: From a personal standpoint, are you like, hey, okay, I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: want to make Pro Bowl now, I want to make
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: All Pro Is that is that something that guides you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: that to be able to have those those accolades to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: stamp on that is? Is that part of your thinking
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: or or just how do you approach that?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Of course I want those accolades at the end of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: the day, but just think a big picture, like I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: want to win a lot of games here. I want
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: to continue to compete at the high level as a team.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: So I feel like the team goes in a sense
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: always the individual goes for me.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: You Stonewall, Miles Garrett a couple of times, and I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna get those accolades. Yeah. Absolutely, talk about
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Gray and you together on that left side. Uh, how
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: how quickly in your estimation it came together and and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: and how you guys became kind of a pair over
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: there on the left side.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: To be honest, I fight when when he first got here,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: just getting getting to know him right sitting inside each
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: other the rooms, talking through certain situations and certain looks,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: seeing how he thinks about certain things, and really just
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: being on the same page.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was, in a sense.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Almost easy to like become on the same get on
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: the same page with him, And I feel like Disney
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: teams of growth there to make us, you know, become
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: so much better.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I think you know the names Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Think you probably learned about them. I asked Walter about
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: how much better were you in your second year with
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: hutch than you were in your first year? He said
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: it was night and day. Well, you guys were terrific
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: as a pair last year. Are you expecting like a
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: big leap forward as a as a pair this upcoming season.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I feel like I fel like we have
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: we have an opportunity in front of us to play
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: out baseball. Baseball ahead of us continue to grow, not
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: just not just left side, but us as a whole group.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Charles Cross with us and and uh here, Brian, we
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: got a new offensive coordinator. And I know you're gonna
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: tell tell me that the club is striving for continuity
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: and and that's mostly connuity, but you got there's got
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: to be something that is different from Clint Kubiak to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: now with the new offensive coordinator. What from your perspective,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: even if it's a minor thing, is there some adjustment
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: that you see.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: From this year to last year? The playbook is similar,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: some new, some new things are in, but of like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: one thing, one thing with Flury's we're gonna run the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: ball and he especially has to run the ball, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: we're gonna get it done at the end of the day.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Well, last year, you guys, in the first fourteen games,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: he had two games where you rush for over one
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: hundred and forty yards. Then in the last six counting
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: the playoffs in the Super Bowl, five of the last six, Uh,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: you were over one hundred and forty like average one
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one. Through that stretch, there was a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: big uptick in how you ran the football. And I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: would argue, if you don't have that up tick, you're
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: not wearing the hardware on your hand. What happened to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: be able to from two thirds three coards away through
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: the season Now all of a sudden, you you kind
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: of found it and you and you started dominating people
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: in the running game.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: I feel like we weren't stacked, Like we weren't we
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: weren't stagnant, like we always continue to push to get
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: better week the week. Now like they contribute to having
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: a better run game as the season went on.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Give an example, like how you say, okay, we weren't stagnant,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: but give it, give like one example the an anecdote
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: that where you say, okay, that that's a symbol of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: how we improved.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: Just being able to finish, finish the game, finish the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: game with the ball in our hands, being great for
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: a minute, being able to control control the football, just
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: having methodical drives, keeping the ball moving forward.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: That's what I would say, M Charles Cross is with us,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you know, chuck and chuck that magical combination with you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: right here on k j R. All Right, so hard
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: knocks like it, dislike it, don't care about it.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Where you at what I mean? I mean, they hear it.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: So just just embrace the moment. I mean that the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: camera's not gonna go away into the camps old.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: With So just it is what it is for me.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: It's really your only chance to be cast on House
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: of the Dragon. So if if you can really like
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: be charming, you never know, I mean.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Get a roll on there. Maybe you can be c
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: gied onto a dragon. I want to be.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I wanna be more of myself yourself. Okay, which which one?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Which one's hamming it up for the cameras the most.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Somebody on this team has got to be playing to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: the cameras a little bit. Who's getting who's who's getting
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: some grief about that? Oh?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: I feel like everyone. I feel like everyone pretty much
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: just being theirselves. So I like just sowing so on
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: how we are as a team. Everyone's sowing their their
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: true personalities, and I feel like this that's what they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: want to see.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to see Mike McDonald's flashing
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: a little more leg than he normally does. That would
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable. I think, hey, man, have a great
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: year out there. All right, thank you very much for
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Charles Cross, you're starting left tackle for your world champion
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks, joining us right here on day number four
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: of training camp, our second day of training camp coverage,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: and we're going to yeah, yeah, we'll probably talk about
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Charles by his back that he's walking away, and talk
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: about Brian Florey as well. Next on Sports Radio ninety
• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:29
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  Speaker 1: here today at nine o'clock hour. Here we go on
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: this Tuesday training camp coverage continuing here on Sports Radio
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: nine three point three k JRFM. And of course we
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: got our QB one, former Washington quarterback eleven twelve year
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: NFL veteran eleven twelve eleven eleven eleven year NFL veteran,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: our QB one Hugh Millen our special co host here
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: today and for the first time.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: He's going to meet on zoom and chat with Ryan.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: You never chatted with Ryan before, I have not. Okay,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: good to meet you. Got a nice treat.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Ryan.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Heally is awesome former Mariner and of course part of
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Mariners TV as well.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Joins us every Tuesday at nine o'clock.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir, Good morning, jentlemen. How are we today?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: We're doing all right, doing all right? Glad you and
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Hugh get to finally meet and have a conversation. But
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: we do need to know. I mean, you're a big guy.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Did you play some football growing up? Ryan? I did.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no like great stories that come of it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: I played some flag football for my middle school team.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I played freshman year high school football. I was a quarterback.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Felt like there was some potential there. But this is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: gonna sound like an excuse and I might as well
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: get out of the way. All the great linemen that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: refreshmen got pulled up to JV. So I was on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: the freshman team with a lot of the the bigger
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: boys that didn't move great, and I was a bigger
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: guy that didn't move great. So let's just say I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: spent a lot of my football career laying on my.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Back and decided for me.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: And when all went on baseball for the next year
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: and that was the end.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, A lot of the Mariners fielders
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: don't don't move real well. I mean Luke Raley when
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: the light driving off up Brian wu like like, I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: don't know, man, it looked like he was moving like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: After the ball out there? What was what was your
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: reaction to uh to the weekend in Texas?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, what a loaded question. He thanks for certain
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: right there.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the way I'm not introducing this dude to my wife,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: like like this guy is just a little too hot. Yeah,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: like like, yeah, that ain't happening every Tuesday nine. I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: gotta feel worse about myself.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, So let's talk a little bit of Rangers Mariners
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: this past weekend. I'm gonna start with this. I feel
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: like as a Mariners fan, and maybe you guys can
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: agree with this. We saw exactly what it's supposed to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: look like to run a consistent successful offense. The problem
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: is is we saw it from the opposing team, meaning
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: I saw an identity of who the Texas Rangers are
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: is in offense right now, a team that is missing
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: a laundry list of superstars, whether they've been traded away
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: or on the il. Right now, there are players that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: are plugging and playing and catching almost lightning in a bottle.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: Nikky Lopez, for example, like the sacrifice or the safety
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: squeeze that he got down early in one of those games,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: the commitment to do it multiple times in the bat
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: and even Ozuna against Wood in the bottom of the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: third inning, runners on first and second, nobody out, up
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: five to nothing, the commitment to, you know, for Skip
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Schumacher to say, you're gonna get this bomb down whether
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: you like it or not. It ended up bunting at
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: foul o to and struck out. Like I saw an
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: identity of a team that has been really hot and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: more importantly has been executing with runners and scoring position
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: less than two outs and with two outs, and then
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: also the ability to do damage early in games. But
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: the Rangers did such a great job of applying pressure
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: from the offensive front to the Mariners and the defensive
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: front and their pitching staff, which has been a strength
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: and scored early, scored often, and capped it off with
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: you know what, four home runs in the first three
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: four innings of Monday's matinee game to end that series.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: I thought there were some good things the Mariners did,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: but the more the bigger thing that I saw was
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: a Rangers offense that knows exactly who they are and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: how they're gonna win baseball games.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, at this stage, I mean, we're closing
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: in on the trading deadline and the team has never
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: been in a more dire situation, and offensively, we keep
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: waiting for it to heat back up. I mean, do
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: we just have to conclude that this offense is just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: not gonna come together this year and it's gonna have
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: to be two to one the rest of the way
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: in order to accomplish the things that this team's trying
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: to accomplish, which is going to the World Series for
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: goodness sake this year. I mean, how much hope can
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: we have that we're going to see that offensive turnaround
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: that we've been waiting for?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: Ryan, I think there's there's always hope, And if you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: read the quotes from Jerry to Poto after parting ways
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: of the assistant hitting coach for that Ranger series. It
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: was pretty blunt, and for the first time this season,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: I felt like someone within the Mariners organization has spoken
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: truthfully about how disappointing the offense've been and force the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: front offices hand to make a coach and change like
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: this that I know the players didn't want to happen.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of players that were just disgruntled with
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: this decision. But I think that's what's Jerry's purpose was,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going to create change because you guys won't do
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: it yourselves. Haven't seen it fully translate yet. I heard
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: a lot of conversations between Dave Valley and Jay Buhner
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: talking about, you know, the seasons where they played a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: Seattle Mariners and the players that did catch lightning in
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: the bottle, the Edgar Martinez is, the the Ken Gurky juniors,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: the players that all of a sudden just had the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: craziest last two months of the season that could still happen.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: There are a few players that are showing glimpses and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: the few players that have been really consistent, but there's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: also the three headed. You know, monster that the Mariners
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: have signing committed to long term that I don't feel
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: like has carried this team through any stretch of the season.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: In between Julio cal and Naylor, those three players are
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: going to have to have some of the best two
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: months of their career for this team that gets to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: where they.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Want to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ryan, heay with us.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Ryan, I'm in your career, did you ever have the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: thought go through your mind, Hey, I'm planning for a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: manager that he does a good job of creating the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: right energy, whether you know I'm specifically talking about for
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: the lineup and hitting, that he has the right he
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: gives us in the right focus where we're focused but
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: not pressing, uh, that we're confident whatever, that that there's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: something about his approach that that manager does that allows
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: us to be our best version of ourselves offensively and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: may and or did you have times in your career
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: where you thought, well, I'm not sure this manager's handling
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: at the right you know, the way the environment that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: he creates. Maybe you know, guys either pressed or they're
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: not focused in I don't I don't know how I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: feel in the blanks, But did you ever have those
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: thoughts in your playing career about the manager's creation of
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: the environment.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Certainly, I think as a player you kind of control
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: the clubhouse, but also the manager can dictate what the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: overall temperature is on a day to day basis. And
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: I won't go into specifics of the environments where I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: was in where I felt like that guy's not creating
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: the place that I want to really perform in or
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: motivating the guys. But there's a handful of managers and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: even head coaches in college that I felt like created
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: that environment. Three that come to mind is Mark Wazaikowski,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: who is the head coach at University of Oregon now
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: was my hitting coach at order for two years. Changed
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: my perspective on the offensive front. Took it from more
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: of a West Coast college offense to more of we're
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: the aggressor. We are delivering the first blow and we
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: are going to attack this pitcher from pitch one. And
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: there was a strategy for the whole game, and it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: was simple. It was fifteen pitches per inning, ninety pitches
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: and five innings to be able to get to the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: bullpen as early as possible for a three game set.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: To wear out the back end of the bullpen, and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: like that was something within our control we could do.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: In the minor leagues, Ran Christensen, who is a first
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: base coach for the Sacramento Athletics now, he was a
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: manager in minor leash for years and he just created
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: an environment where you felt comfortable with him and he
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: was always a part of our early work. He was
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: a part of the game planning, and he was a
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: part of throwing BP on the field, like you felt
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: the connection. And then Bob Melvin with the Oakland Athletics
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: when I played there, he was someone that was always
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: throwing the first group of BP. He was always hitting fungos.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: You felt like you knew him as a person and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: he knew you and regardless of how you were performing,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: he treated you the exact same. And that consistency from
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: your manager and your leader allowed you to quiet some
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: of those internal voices of oh my gosh, I suck
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: right now, I can't get the job done. I'm terrible,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, a manager looking at like,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: hey man, today might be your day, Like you're our guy,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: I'm pulling my card for you today. I feel it
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: like just that little boat of confidence that you can
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: get from a higher up. It lifts you up as
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: a player when you're going through the dog days of summer.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, so, Ryan, we've established that some managers create a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: better environment for offensive production than other managers. Now my
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: follow up question would be, how is it possible that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson is not creating the potential environment that maximizes
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: what this offense could be doing.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: It's a fair question, and it's a fair question because
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: of what the results have been this season. I don't
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: know what the conversations are like on a daily basis
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: within those walls. What Dan's interaction is with the offense.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Is he in the hitters meeting, Is he in the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: cage with the guys? I will see him out at
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: early hitting at times as well. But I know when
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: I've talked to a former teammate and a great manager
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: in Major League, Stephen Vote, I asked him what the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: biggest challenge was when he started to take over the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: role of being a big league manager, and he said,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: my job is to delegate and to manage the individuals.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: So for me, it's not Dan's Wilson's responsibility to make
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: sure that the offense is performing at the highest level
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: on a daily basis. He has multiple coaches and analysts
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: and departments that can manage the offensive front like that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: is their responsibility, and he's managed a personnel within it.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: That's what Dan's job is. And Dan also talks to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: the media x amount of times per day. That's a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: big job of dance. So understanding what Dan's actual job
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: is within that building and knowing that the manager will
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: be held accountable if the results don't change. Will it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: be right now mid season? The Poto's saying otherwise, I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: don't think they're going to part ways with Dan Wilson,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: and I think unfortunately, like in football, when the team
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: doesn't play well, who gets blamed head coach and the quarterback?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: Same thing in baseball, when the team's not playing well,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: who's getting blamed. It's going to be the manager, and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: it's going to be the superstars and the team.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Ryan Haley is with us every Tuesday nine o'clock, former
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: Mariner apparently leads the show and compliments as well. I
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: got flattered a little bit earlier in the interview, and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: of course we're talking some ariners baseball, and look, I mean,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know bleak might be the wrong word, but
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's ever felt worse this season
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: than what it feels right now, two and a half
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: games out of first place, actually in third place right
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: now in the American League West. You've got six days
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: to the Major League Baseball trading deadline. I was sure
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: we were going to be buyers. Now I don't know
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: how aggressive that they'll be on that front. And I'd
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: ask you, I mean, you got the Dodgers in the
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: next three days, You've got some of the best competition
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: you're going to face all year along on the schedule
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: coming up here. It's just looking more and more like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: you're going to have to overpay for talent on a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: cold market out there.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: So how.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Worthy is this current team of further investment in your estimation?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: If you're Jerry, Justin, John and Dan, I mean, once
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: upon a time, I mean forty eight hours ago, I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: was sure there going to be buyers. But how worthy
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: is this group of investment right now to see if
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: they can get it done this year?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: It's a fair question, Chuck, and I think you you
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: touched on in that question. One of the biggest factors
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: of this deadline. So far as the market's cult, there's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: a ton of American League teams that didn't anticipate still
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: being in it at this point this season that are
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: contenders still. And I think the overall success or mediocrity
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: of the American League is leading a lot of teams
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: that would have been selling to not And there's a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: lot of national team are National League teams that have
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: separation and it's clear who wants bodies and what they want,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: but will the teams you won't to part ways. I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: think there's also the looming fact that you know, the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: CBA is coming up in December. What does it look
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: like for next season? Do teams want to take on
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: a player's payroll that isn't just confirmed for this season,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: but guaranteed for next year as well?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: What does that do for the team?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: An organization with potentially of the of the se word
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: that I'm not I don't want to say. There's a
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: lot of things that are just factoring into this. One
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: thing that I know for certain though the Mariners is
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: they will always make a move to improve not just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: the current structure of the roster, but the future. Like
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: they want players that have control and they are willing
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: to part ways with some prospects. Prospects if they feel
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: like they're improving the major league roster for not just
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: this year, but years to come. There's already so much
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: talent on this roster. Depoto has said, this is the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: best talent roster that we've constructed in my eleven year
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: plus of being a Mariner's exec. So the talent is worthy,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: the roster construction is worthy, the performance has not been.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: But how much does a potential new player come in
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: and spark that we saw what happened when Naylor and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: also you know Gino came in last year, and how
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: much of us spark that played for this team going
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: into August September, and how much those two players contributed.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think there, you know, is the perfect fit
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: out there right now. But doesn't mean that I'm ever
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: ruling out what this Mariner's front office is capable of
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: doing in the trade market.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Ryan Haley with us.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: So if you Ryan word Depoto and you're unilaterally making
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: all the decisions for the Mariners, now, what would you do?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: You know, specifically, you could argue you have eight starting
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: pitchers in the organization, seven of them being right handers,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: But who would you be looking to move if it's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: a picture, what changes if anything, like what would be
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: top of your list if you were the president making
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: these decisions.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: You have to leverage the starting picture, especially the right
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: handed starting pitchers that you have, and you have to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: leverage the control that some of those pictures have. So
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Emerson Hancock's names come up a bunch of potential trades,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: and now they're dangling him out there. That could be
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: a player you try and sell high and maybe get
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: a right handed outfield or bat that you have control
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: over and can contribute for the next couple of years.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Because Randy or Rose Orino, whether he gets traded or not,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: is a free agent at the end of season, so
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: you have to assume that he might not be back
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: next year. Who can you have that has big league
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: caliber talent that has played at the major leagues and
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: can slot into maybe left field and maybe a platoon
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: roll in right field for you that can contribute for
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: the next couple of years. That would be number one,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: and I know they're looking for that number two. You
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: can never have enough back end bullpen arms. And I
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: think if you're able to trade one of your right
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: handed starters for a back end bullpen arm and potentially
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: right handed bat. It solves some of the issues that
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: we're seeing. And I don't think the pitching side is
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: the issue by any stretch, but to have some leverage
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: arms in the back end, also adding an extra arm
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: for your bullpen that is just naturally manned down with
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: six man rotation starters, it would benefit this team a
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: ton for at least what the rest of the season
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: is gonna look like.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: A couple of editorial notes, Randy Rose Arena will not
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: be back next year.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be gone this year. I don't
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: think they'll move him this year, but he's not gonna
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: be back next year. And then I'd just like to
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: point out C. J. Abrams is some of it I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: brought up yesterday. He is available on the market.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: It would cost a lot, but he does capture that
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: he's controllable. You would have him for this year, you'd
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: have him for the next two years. He can't play defense,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: but it's probably time for a positional change. He takes
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: the Randy A. Rose Arena money. You turn him into
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: a left fielder here in the offseason, but he's a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: left handed hitter. He's So do we need another left
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: handed hitter. I mentioned yesterday Faulty I said he was
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a switch hitter. My mistake. He is a left handed hitter.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: So somebody that I think would be worth it, because
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: even if you can't get back in the race this year,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: you've got him for the next two seasons. Which is
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: how they got a Rose Arena in the first place,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: is they traded for him when it didn't look good.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: It didn't look like they were going to make the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: playoffs that year, but they were an investing in a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: player that could help them the next two seasons. And
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: if they caught lightning in the bottle in the back
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: half of that first season, so be it. So maybe
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: that's something that they would be interested in.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: In our last couple of minutes here with you Dodgers
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: for the next three days, I think there are a
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: lot of Marinder fans listening right now that just are
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: under the impression we've got no chance in the next
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: three days. This is going to be a sweep. But
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: explain out baseball is weird. You know that sometimes slumps
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: turn around out of the blue. The Dodgers aren't exactly
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: playing their best baseball right now, they're banged up. Yeah,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: it looks like a major uphill battle the next three
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: days to try to feel better about where this team
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: is right now. So what kind of chance does a
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: former Major league or current Major League baseball analyst give
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: the Mariners against the Dodgers the next three days.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: Do you guys remember a few months ago when the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: Mariners played the White Sox and weekend series and it
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: didn't go great?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: Do you guys remember who came into town that next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I do it.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: It was the Atlanta Braves, the hottest team in all
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: the baseball. Yeah, and the Mariners went and took two
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: or three of the And you're like, who is this team? Well,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: fortunately that is still the same formula that this Mariner's
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: team is running out there, which.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Tells me that baseball so weird.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: And there's a chance, And I think, to some regard this,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: this Dodger series could be more important to the players
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: than the Ranger series. And I'm not in the clubhouse.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know that for certain, but I say that
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: because they go out there and they take two out
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: of three of the Dodgers, the best team in the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: world back to back World Series champions. I go, wow,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: this game is really weird. It could give them that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: perspective of we could beat anyone on any given night.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: We just got to get ourselves to the dance right now,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: and maybe that initiates the that fight of let's just
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: fight for the rest of the season. It's not hasn't
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  Speaker 5: been pretty offensively with beIN dismal or Bysmo, but like,
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  Speaker 5: we can still do this, boys, Like what if that
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  Speaker 5: is the spark? Every Maritors fan out there has been
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  Speaker 5: waiting for one moment in a game to be the spark.
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  Speaker 5: And we've seen a couple between cal Rawley's Grand Slam,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Cold Young's three run home run and then
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: obviously don Canzone's home run and RBI go ahead double.
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  Speaker 5: Like we see moments that we're like, that's it. It's
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  Speaker 5: gonna turn all around. It hasn't happened yet, but it
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  Speaker 5: could be this for the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: In the words of Bruce Springsteen, you can't start a
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  Speaker 1: fire without a spark. That was deep Chuck, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: can take you there. I can take you there if
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  Speaker 1: you both want to go. Man, thank you great to
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  Speaker 1: have you on. As always hopefully we get some good
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  Speaker 1: news here in the next three days and start turning
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  Speaker 1: this thing around. Amen to that.
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  Speaker 3: Day.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, former Mariner with us. Uh, he's good, right,
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  Speaker 1: he's really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, little little little to Charles S. Breezewater
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  Speaker 3: for my liking. Oh, that's just a term we had
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  Speaker 3: in college, and it was all in context. It could
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: be negative or it could be positive. You had to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: you had to pick up on the inflex Oh, he's
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  Speaker 3: walking in like Charles, like he thinks he's Charles S.
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  Speaker 1: Breezewater.
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  Speaker 3: That would be the negative context. The other would be like,
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  Speaker 3: oh crap, there's a Charles S. Breezewater for you right there.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's that's positive, Like you know so, so
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  Speaker 3: it's the positive you heard of that in mind? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Charles Chucky Breese man, Chucky Struck Struck. Yeah, they're strolling
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: like Chucky Breeze. That guy, Yeah, that was Ryan. He
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: I'd never seen him before. He got a little too
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: much Charles S. Breezewater for my Like, No, you will
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: not be meeting missus Millan. Ryan Healley's keep your dirty.
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  Speaker 1: Paws off.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up next, we're gonna get back to training camp
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  Speaker 3: conversation here with you.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: We've had Chucky Cross on, We've had Chucky Breeze on. Man,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like the fifth most important Chuck on this show.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: To you're you're just figuring that out. Yeah, goy, you're
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: denser than you look.
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