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It's Always The Shoes | Thursday October 23, 2025 · The Treehouse Show Podcast

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Speaker 2: It is time to leave your worries outside and laugh
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Speaker 2: with us inside the Treehouse. I'm Daniel Maley along with
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Speaker 2: tree Trendholm, Raj Sharma and Jerry Caldwell. Welcome and today
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Speaker 2: today inside the Treehouse. I didn't kill him. It's the
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Speaker 2: shoe's fault. And something's getting bigger in a very small space.
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Speaker 2: But first, Jesus, we've all been waiting more than two
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Speaker 2: thousand years for the second coming of Christ, and it
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Speaker 2: has finally happened. Glory be his name. More specifically, a
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred year old loaf of bread with an image
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Speaker 2: of Christ was unearthed in an astonishing find.
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Speaker 3: That's called Wonderbread.
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Speaker 2: No toaster involved this time, not on this one, we
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Speaker 2: don't think. Okay, So before I get into the guts
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Speaker 2: of this story, a few questions. Number one, how do
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Speaker 2: you know it's Jesus? And actually, let me show you
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Speaker 2: the photo of this so you can get a look
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Speaker 2: at it. Okay, how do you know that's Jesus? Was
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Speaker 2: his name on it? Does it say Christ? Or is
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Speaker 2: it Chris? Is it just some guy named Chris. That
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Speaker 2: looks a lot like Jesus, because they all look like
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Speaker 2: that back in the day.
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Speaker 3: Now this looks like the Prince from Shrek.
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Speaker 2: It's done. Yeah, yeah, it looks like Prince Farquad. Yeah. Look,
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Speaker 2: you know who I feel bad for. I feel bad
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Speaker 2: for some artisan twelve hundred years ago because he figured
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Speaker 2: out how to put his face on his bread to
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Speaker 2: sell more bread. And now Jesus gets all the credit
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Speaker 2: once it gets on earthed by some archaeologists.
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Speaker 3: Wow, Missus Baird's looking goods held up well over the years.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some writing like that we can't understand
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Speaker 3: or you know that they kind of I guess deciphered
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Speaker 3: that this was Jesus bread.
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Speaker 2: This discovery was announced Archaeologists recently found an extraordinary relic
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Speaker 2: of early Christianity, a twelve hundred year old loaf of
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Speaker 2: burned bread bearing the image of Jesus Christ. The discovery
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Speaker 2: was announced by the Caraman Governor's Ship, located in south
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Speaker 2: central Turkey, Okay. The bread dates back to the seventh
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Speaker 2: or eighth centuries a d It's one of five carbonized
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Speaker 2: loabs recently found at the Ruptechnik Sure totally is product
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Speaker 2: how's that go? Trey topraka tepe topraka tepe archeleogical. I
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Speaker 2: can't talk today. Site place where they dug stuff up archaeological.
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Speaker 3: We'll help you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, once the ancient city of Ironopolis, Sure, I can
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Speaker 2: say that. U. Pictures from the excavation show the blackened
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Speaker 2: loaf bearing the faint image of Christ. The inscription on
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Speaker 2: the loaf reads with gratitude to the blessed Jesus. Okay
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Speaker 2: I stand corrected. So someone did put his name on it.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: The image did not incorporate the popular Christ pentocratur iconography,
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Speaker 2: which typically shows Christ raising his right hand and serves
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Speaker 2: as the standard of Byzantine and Eastern Orthodox art mm
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Speaker 2: archaeology stuff. Rather, Christ was depicted as a sewer or fear,
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Speaker 2: which officials said reflects the symbolic importance of fertility and
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Speaker 2: labor and in the religious thought of the period. Archaeologists
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Speaker 2: others found other symbols on the loaves, including one that
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Speaker 2: appears to bear the Maltese cross. All right, so there
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Speaker 2: you have it. Jesus was found on a loaf of
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Speaker 2: bread in Turkey. Uh from some twelve hundred years ago.
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Speaker 1: I think Jesus needed to explain metaphors in the Bible, then.
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Speaker 2: Lots needs to be explained out of the Bible tray
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Speaker 2: and people still ain't getting it, Like there are whole
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Speaker 2: industries around it and it still gets screwed up. So
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Speaker 2: you're right, it would have been a lot more helpful
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Speaker 2: if Jesus had just done it from the outset.
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Speaker 3: But also, I mean you have to look at the
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Speaker 3: was the Last Supper like a marketing campaign, like you know,
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Speaker 3: this is my this bread symbolizes my body. Also, this
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Speaker 3: bread is available in stores now.
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Speaker 2: So what's the metaphor that people are missing on this tray.
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Speaker 1: Well, when he said break this bread, it is my
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Speaker 1: body given to you for the Covenant, you know that
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Speaker 1: that it was a metaphor. It didn't really need to
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Speaker 1: put Jesus on the bread. And any any any loaf,
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Speaker 1: any loaf will do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, white wheat riot.
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Speaker 1: Wonder you know it's it's iron kids, one of my
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Speaker 1: favorites growing up.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you want to give him iron kids.
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Speaker 3: That's kind of rude, solid point. That's my bad, My bad.
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Speaker 2: Jesus and Jerry, you were right. We've seen the toasters,
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Speaker 2: like I've seen the face of Jesus toasters at urban outfitters.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not always convinced that these types of things
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Speaker 2: are real. Now, granted, this was an archaeological dig, and
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Speaker 2: it said somewhere on this inscription, you know, blessed be
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Speaker 2: Jesus or whatever, So maybe it is supposed to be
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Speaker 2: Jesus on this loaf. But I don't know how many
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Speaker 2: times we can see this throughout the years, people seeing
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Speaker 2: something that they think is a miracle or it's some
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Speaker 2: sort of a hoax altogether, and claiming, ah, this is
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Speaker 2: a miracles, like those Virgin Mary statues that cry blood
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Speaker 2: or something.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is a hair different being that it's twelve
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Speaker 1: hundred years old. I mean, it's not you know, someone
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Speaker 1: literally in their kitchen with you know, toasting their English muffin,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they decide they see Jesus
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Speaker 1: in it.
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Speaker 2: That's cool. I got a Darth Vader one.
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Speaker 3: It's it's and it's only Christians. You never see like
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Speaker 3: Vishnou in a grilled cheese. I'm just saying, like that
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Speaker 3: never happens, Like you never see people in India. In India,
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Speaker 3: like I saw gnash in my soup.
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Speaker 2: Having eaten lots of Indian food. I have too. I've
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Speaker 2: seen it. I just I just didn't seem much special,
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Speaker 2: just a religious experience.
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Speaker 4: Right. It's not in the bowl or in the food.
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Speaker 4: It's right out there in front of you after you
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Speaker 4: eat enough of those purple peppers.
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Speaker 2: Why is that a A like that has to have
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Speaker 2: happened with some other religions where they've been like, oh
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Speaker 2: like here's here's here's my here's Buddha in my bread.
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Speaker 2: Or is it just because it doesn't get the same
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Speaker 2: news appeal in the West for us to see it.
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Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's a Catholicism thing more than anything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of history tradition there.
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Speaker 1: Well there that that that you're looking. You know that
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Speaker 1: they see miracles and then miracles can lead to saint
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Speaker 1: hood and it's but.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense. It's sort of training from from the hierarchy.
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Speaker 2: It's saying, look, hey, these things are possible, so keep
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Speaker 2: an eye out. I mean, and and other religions they
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Speaker 2: don't really do that. Therefore they don't report these things.
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Speaker 1: If you really want to get to the basis of
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Speaker 1: it is the shroud of turn and then you can
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Speaker 1: go from there.
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Speaker 2: Got it? That makes sense? Okay? That does make sense.
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Speaker 2: I was asking not to be facetious, but a legitimate,
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Speaker 2: like a great point. It's like that is that? Why
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Speaker 2: is that? Okay? I think that answered it? Then mhm.
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Speaker 4: Is it maybe because in those cultures, if somebody see
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Speaker 4: something in their food, they think they're crazy, so they
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Speaker 4: don't say anything.
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Speaker 3: No, I mean that would be huge if I mean
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Speaker 3: that would be like we would welcome that. That would
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Speaker 3: that would get a lot of coverage in India and
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Speaker 3: then all the Indian news outlets would cover it and
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Speaker 3: it would get over here. People would start looking in
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Speaker 3: their supregnation. Soup sales would go up.
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Speaker 2: It's truly difficult though, because I mean it's liquid, it's
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Speaker 2: going to move around.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, by the time the news crew gets there, it's
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Speaker 2: going to have moved and yeah, so that's why certain
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Speaker 2: things it works out better than others.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but even this is Jesus bread, So isn't it
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Speaker 3: When he fed the hungry with a loaf of red
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Speaker 3: and five fish or something like that. I don't know
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Speaker 3: how many fish exactly. It was two loaves, five fish,
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Speaker 3: two low five fish. So yeah, they've found four. So
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Speaker 3: that's going to feed everyone forever. Five five that's called
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Speaker 3: a buffet. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: According to the story, specialists suggest that these five maybe
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Speaker 2: examples of communion bread or Eucharist bread used in early
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Speaker 2: Christian rituals. The fact that these bread survived through carbonization
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Speaker 2: demonstrates exceptional preservation conditions. The Fiands are among the best
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Speaker 2: preserved examples ever identified in Anatolia. Man, there's all sorts
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Speaker 2: of words in here I've never heard of before. Is
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Speaker 2: this the same general area tree where they think they've
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Speaker 2: found the ship that looks like it could be Noah's
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Speaker 2: arc like lodged in a mountain somewhere. Is that this
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Speaker 2: general area.
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Speaker 1: It's all in Turkey? Uh okay, yeah, yeah, southern Turkey
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Speaker 1: border with Iran that I forgot the mountain but yeah.
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Speaker 1: But also, I mean Turkey is one of the richest
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Speaker 1: archaeological sites. I mean you have go beck to the
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Speaker 1: tappy there. I mean, you have things that they're rewriting
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Speaker 1: human history with. So it's not very surprising.
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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is Turkey is the place to
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Speaker 2: go with the metal detector and not look crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, get you shot or in prison.
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Speaker 2: But yes, that's uh oh is that frowned upon there?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 2: Uh like freelance. Archaeological digging is a big no no in.
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Speaker 1: Turn there, they're quite dicky about it.
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Speaker 2: I hope that's the official stance from the Turkish Empire.
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Speaker 2: A self taught surgeon was arrested for carrying out illegal
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Speaker 2: penis enlargements in the back of his nineteen nineties Corolla.
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Speaker 2: Not Florida. Oh even Florida drew a line in its
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Speaker 2: sand and said, No, that's that's not happening here.
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Speaker 3: That's to Florida.
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Speaker 1: For us here would have to be a camera at least.
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Speaker 3: Then it's then you know it's an Indian doctor.
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Speaker 2: A self taught surgeon was arrested for carrying I mean,
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Speaker 2: let me say that again. A self taught surgeon was
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Speaker 2: arrested for carrying out illegal penis enlargements in the back
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Speaker 2: of his nineteen nineties Corolla. For just a moment, I
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Speaker 2: want you to forget all the other red flags. Are
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Speaker 2: you really gonna get a penis enlargement in the back
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Speaker 2: seat of a compact car? Shouldn't it at least be
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Speaker 2: a full size to Dan, I'm.
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Speaker 1: Stretched you'd helpe the after you would need it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the only thing less serious is if you're
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Speaker 2: doing this in the back of a super roo outback.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they'd be going for enlargements in a
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Speaker 1: super room.
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Speaker 2: That's a different operation.
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Speaker 3: I think some of them would.
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Speaker 2: You're right, Jerry, you're right. If someone's going around doing
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Speaker 2: mobile penis enlargements in a stretch limo that tracks, that
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Speaker 2: makes sense. I'm not going to do it, and or
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Speaker 2: for all the other red flag reasons. But if you
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Speaker 2: were someone so inclined, that makes sense from a branding standpoint, Hey.
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Speaker 1: Can you can you really be a self taught surgeon?
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Speaker 2: Well? RFK Junior believes in self taught vaccinations and medicine.
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Speaker 2: So this this type of stuff spreads quickly. This is
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Speaker 2: what happens. You get the Internet and people start thinking,
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Speaker 2: I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos. I now know
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Speaker 2: how to operate on people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can watch surgical tutorials all day long. And
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Speaker 3: they go step that didn't make you're a surgeon, self
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Speaker 3: taught surgeon, self taught surgeon.
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Speaker 2: Yes you are. Why license do you are? No one's
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Speaker 2: approved you. You're just you're just you're just, uh, you're
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Speaker 2: just bucking all the rules. Basically.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There was a very famous story about an Indian guy
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Speaker 3: in the UK who is a brain surgeon and years
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Speaker 3: and years and years of doing brain surgery and they
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Speaker 3: found out that he was never he never gone to
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Speaker 3: medical school. Uh, he just talked himself and they brought
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Speaker 3: him up on charges for it. And all of his
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Speaker 3: patients are the ones that testified for him like it
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Speaker 3: was the best, Like he was the best, Like they
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Speaker 3: gave me a small chance to live and now I'm
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Speaker 3: still here today. So they just basically like, here's the deal.
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Speaker 3: We're just going to send you back to India. Don't
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Speaker 3: come back here and stop practicing surgery on people.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like those stories you hear about, like
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Speaker 2: hackers will break into some government facility or some government
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Speaker 2: network and then they eventually get hired and work for
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Speaker 2: the government because it's either that or jail. At least
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Speaker 2: we recognize, hey, you're talented, let's actually bring you in
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Speaker 2: on this instead of it being you know, something bad
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Speaker 2: and dangerous for everyone. Yeah, this happened in Thailand, by
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Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, the man's name, the self taught surgeon's
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Speaker 2: name is Pattaya Mulin also known as cheng Yai Modifi,
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Speaker 2: so it's a catchy name. He's fifty one and he
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Speaker 2: offered bizarre on the go genital enhancements to tie men.
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Speaker 2: His bungling antics unfolded inside his beaten up antik of
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Speaker 2: a car, with customers eventually reporting his dubious services to
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Speaker 2: the police. Bangkok cops launched a probe into the doctor's
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Speaker 2: dark arts. That may be one of my favorite sentences
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Speaker 2: I have ever read at a news story. Bangkok cops
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Speaker 2: launched a probe into the doctor's dark arts.
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Speaker 3: Not only was he an on thego surgeon, he's also Voldemort,
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Speaker 3: but also.
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Speaker 2: In the back of the corolla.
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Speaker 3: In the back of a corolla for a time, man,
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Speaker 3: that that is a stretch limma. They're tiny folk.
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Speaker 2: They found the unlicensed suspect was promoting penis enlargement, circumcision
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Speaker 2: and pearl implantation surgeries through social media. On his TikTok account,
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Speaker 2: he claimed he was able to deliver his services for convenience,
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Speaker 2: but he made no mention of the fact patients would
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Speaker 2: be going under the knife while stuck in the back
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Speaker 2: of a Corolla. Kid mad all right, I want you
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Speaker 2: to count back from one hundred as you's just buckling
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Speaker 2: your safety belt over your body. Authorities detained the bogus
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Speaker 2: practitioner while he was in the middle of a baffling
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Speaker 2: pearling procedure. You couldn't have stopped him before he sliced
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Speaker 2: that bro open. You stop him in the middle. Oh, Like,
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Speaker 2: at that point you got to finish. Like, either you
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Speaker 2: let him finish or you send that guy to an
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Speaker 2: actual doctor to finish the procedure, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because an actual like I have one in the
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Speaker 1: career to want to fix that mess.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a waiver you really need to have signed
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Speaker 2: before you start doing anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I so, I guess there's just local anesthetic or he
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Speaker 3: just woke up.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. After being caught red handed police
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Speaker 2: bangkock cops got to make sure I throw that in
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Speaker 2: there where I can seized one and eighty nine different
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Speaker 2: kinds of pearls, local anesthetics, surgical blades, needles, and other equipment. Wow,
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Speaker 2: So just a local pearls that was part of his
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Speaker 2: That's one of his procedure offerings. I imagine when you
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Speaker 2: when you roll up to the gray Corolla, he has
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Speaker 2: a menu that you then open up and it gives
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Speaker 2: you the options of the penis enlargement, the circumcision, or
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Speaker 2: the pearl enhancements.
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Speaker 1: The ribbed for her pleasure enhancement.
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Speaker 3: I'll have dim Summon Din sum.
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Speaker 2: Also known as the shuck and jivet. So yeah, one
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Speaker 2: and nine different kinds of pearls, local anesthetics, surgical blades, needles,
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Speaker 2: and other equipment. All the tools were allegedly used in
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Speaker 2: unsanitary conditions. You don't say he's not being super careful
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Speaker 2: about sanitary conditions in the back of a corolla.
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Speaker 3: Oh was he at least wearing gloves?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. He reportedly admitted that he had no
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Speaker 2: medical training and only learned the procedures from watching videos
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Speaker 2: on social media.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the new med school.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He did not even have any sterilizing equipment to
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Speaker 2: prevent infections. He said, I became interested in this kind
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Speaker 2: of work, so he studied and developed it as a
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Speaker 2: side hustle to supplement my income. What does he do
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Speaker 2: for a living? Then, if it's not that.
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Speaker 1: The door dash, I mean, I would assume he's charging
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Speaker 1: enough to go full time.
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Speaker 2: That's the point.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if that many people had complained, you know.
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Speaker 3: He's just drugging uber. Can you imagine like healing in
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Speaker 3: the back seat and he takes somebody to the airport.
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Speaker 2: I really got to stop doing these ride share rides,
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Speaker 2: Like I don't want to do the pool thing anymore. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he said he's been doing this for around a year
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Speaker 2: and he charged twenty three pounds for pearl implants, one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen pounds for circumcisions, and just two hundred
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Speaker 2: and twenty nine pounds for the coveted penis enlargement injections.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so he wasn't like like splicing and adding.
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Speaker 2: actually inside the treehouse. Yeah uh, all right, here we
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Speaker 2: go last little bit here. On this episode of the Treehouse,
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Speaker 2: the lawyers of a wealthy Texas housewife who's accused of
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Speaker 2: plowing into and killing a man while drunken high say
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Speaker 2: it's not her fault and claim it's her high heel's
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Speaker 2: fault because they got stuck on the gas battle.
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Speaker 1: Cheers.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, shits. Yeah. Look, this is some next
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Speaker 2: level lawyer ing. Not my client's fault. It was the Lubutans.
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Speaker 3: It's like all of all the like defense, like I
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Speaker 3: didn't shoot him, my ring, I got stuck on the trigger.
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Speaker 3: If it wasn't for this damn ring, we'd still have Kennedy.
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Speaker 2: Oh uh, I mean, you know what, Give it a
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Speaker 2: shot if it works. The wealthy Texas housewife accused of
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Speaker 2: plowing into and killing a man on a first date
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Speaker 2: while drunken high claims that her expensive lubtons got stuck
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Speaker 2: in the gas pedal of her Porsche nine eleven carrera.
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Speaker 2: Christina Chambers, thirty four, went on trial Friday for manslaughter
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Speaker 2: in connection with the April twenty twenty three crash that
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Speaker 2: killed thirty three year old Joseph McMullen as he and
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Speaker 2: his date were leaving a Voodoo Donut shop in Houston.
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Speaker 2: Prosecutors alleged Chambers had been bar hopping with friends that night,
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Speaker 2: was four times over the legal alcohol limit, and had
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Speaker 2: small baggies of cocaine in her car and purse. That's all,
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Speaker 2: according to the Houston Chronicle, but her attorney, because this
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Speaker 2: is one of the first things I wanted to know
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Speaker 2: when I saw the headline. I was like, I want
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Speaker 2: to know which a turn this was that blamed the shoes.
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Speaker 2: That's the angle. He's like, all right, look, lady, you're
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Speaker 2: my defendant. I'm going to do what is not just
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Speaker 2: demanded of me by the Constitution. I Am going to
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Speaker 2: go balls out for you and blame the shoes on
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Speaker 2: you killing this man. His name Mark Theeson, and he
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Speaker 2: argued it was the designer shoes that caused the fatal crash,
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Speaker 2: not being four times the legal alcohol limit, nothing to
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Speaker 2: do with the cocaine found in the car and in
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Speaker 2: her purse, but instead her high end shoes. That's right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Thesen claims his client's expensive Christian Lubaton heels had gotten
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Speaker 2: stuck on the gas pedal of her Porsche as she
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Speaker 2: drove down one of Houston's most dangerous curves. So this
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Speaker 2: is great. He's blaming everybody he can get his eyes
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Speaker 2: and mouth on, and nothing with his client. It's the road,
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Speaker 2: it's the shoes. I'm surprised he's not blaming Porsche for
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Speaker 2: making a card. That's just too goddamn fast.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand how he thinks that's gonna play out
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Speaker 1: with the jury. I mean, you're in your one hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars car, and you're probably three thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars pair of shoes, you're with coke and your four
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Speaker 1: times illegal limit.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised he's not blaming the guy eating donuts past sundown.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's in there too, I just haven't gotten there yet.
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Speaker 3: If the shoe sticks, you must have quit.
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Speaker 2: However, Prosecutor Andrew figure Lucy disputed the argument to the jury,
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Speaker 2: believing Chambers was itching to show off her sports car
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Speaker 2: to two friends inside the Porsche at the time of
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Speaker 2: the fatal wreck. About an hour after the crash, she
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Speaker 2: registered a BAC of zero point three h one. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: nearly four times the legal limit. Uh that's a good one. Yeah. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Brionna Indorino, who was on a date with McMullen the
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Speaker 2: victim that night, told the court they just left Voodoo
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Speaker 2: Donuts around two twenty five am when she saw blinding
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Speaker 2: headlights barreling straight at them. She testified that she realized
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Speaker 2: the speedy sports car, estimated to be traveling over seventy
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Speaker 2: at the time of impact, was about to make a
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Speaker 2: sharp turn directly toward them, and the blank of an eye,
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Speaker 2: the porch went past, missing her by inches, and when
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Speaker 2: she turned to shout a warning to McMullen, he was
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Speaker 2: he had vanished.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just aig puff of smoking and blazed donut.
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Speaker 2: Yep. God blame the shoes, that is wow.
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Speaker 4: Well driving a Porsche, she got fancy shoes. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I guess the only the question is is did the
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Speaker 4: purse that they found the cocaine in match the shoes?
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Speaker 3: That is cruise.
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Speaker 2: That's one. That's one nugget of the story. I don't have, Jerry,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: How much cocaine did they find? Was it enough? Like
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Speaker 3: you know, was it enough to sober? Uh?
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Speaker 1: For the drive home, baggies were plural.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, there we go inside the car and
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Speaker 3: in the bag. Well done. Oh typically What part of
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Speaker 3: Houston was this? I can kind of guess.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they give the exact address in
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Speaker 2: this story, we can you could look it up.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be River
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Speaker 3: Oaks or bell Air, one of the two.
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Speaker 1: For sure.
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Speaker 3: That sounds like something that happens quite often there doesn't
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Speaker 3: make the news.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could just check out, you know,
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Speaker 2: Voodoo Donuts locations in Houston, probably find a few options there.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, how.
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Speaker 1: That hasn't happened on Inwood Road in Dallas, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Pretty much. The general manager of the nearby Slick Willie's
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Speaker 2: Pool Haul also testified, telling the court he heard the
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Speaker 2: crash and ran outside to help, but it was too late.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got hit seventy miles now there's not there's
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Speaker 3: nine to one.
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Speaker 2: One apparently told him to try CPR. I'm guessing it
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Speaker 2: must not have been a direct shot then, because otherwise
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Speaker 2: it's been like, I don't think that's gonna be necessary.
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Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately it is. It is tragic and as
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Speaker 2: sad this guy dies. Yeah, yeah, and then you and
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Speaker 2: then the lawyer for the woman who did is like,
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Speaker 2: it's the shoes. It's totally the shoes.
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Speaker 3: Not the coked out drunk. No, not the coked out
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Speaker 3: drunk white girl.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And look, maybe that's why she goes along with
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Speaker 2: this defense because she's probably used to hearing it's not
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Speaker 2: her fault, so this makes sense to her.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure Daddy paid for the lawyer.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go with the lack of accountability defense, like cloud,
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Speaker 2: that sounds good.
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Speaker 1: It's husband. I believe that's loaded one. Oh you think so? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: But I mean she seemed pretty. She's not gonna plead guilty,
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Speaker 1: so I mean the attorney has to come up with something.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Did he put a bunch of excuses? Did he put
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Speaker 2: a bunch of legal strategies in a hat written on
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Speaker 2: torn up shards of paper? And this was the one
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Speaker 2: that he pulled. It's like, we're gonna blame the shoes.
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Speaker 2: This will be this, this will be this trial's challenge.
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Speaker 1: I think he spends a wheel.
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Speaker 2: It's a wheel that's actually pretty fitting, probably has a
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Speaker 2: few drinks and spins the wheel.
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Speaker 3: Legal mad libs.
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Speaker 2: The whole office goes to happy hour and they pass
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Speaker 2: it around and they all write into different parts. All right,
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Speaker 2: did this trial you gotta blame shoes? No?
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Speaker 3: This is like this is like if it was like
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Speaker 3: legal family feud. Like it's all right right? Top ten
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Speaker 3: answers on the board firm, What do we say? He's
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Speaker 3: like shoes? Good answer, good answer. Surveys says shoes thing
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Speaker 3: number one answer. All right, let's get out of here.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to court.
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Speaker 2: Congratulations, it's time to play for double the money. Can't
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Speaker 2: wait to see can't wait to see Steve Harvey's face
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Speaker 2: on that family oh Man. The suit also partly blames
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Speaker 2: this lady's former partner, hedge fund manager Schwan C, who
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Speaker 2: filed for divorce from her just days after she was
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Speaker 2: released on bail, for purchasing the luxury sports car just
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Speaker 2: months before the fatal crash. However, he's denied purchasing the
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Speaker 2: sports car for his ex wife, claiming and said she
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Speaker 2: bought the car herself using cash from their joint account.
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Speaker 2: He also denied that his wife had a drinking problem
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Speaker 2: and said he'd never seen her consume drugs or drive drunk.
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Speaker 3: So he's still in China.
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Speaker 2: And he on's back really really bad.
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Speaker 3: Oh just good.
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