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Killers Amongst Us: Mom of 3, Michelle Parker, vanishes after ‘The People’s Court’ appearance. (episode 1) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. How many
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Speaker 1: times do you walk into work, or the grocery store
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Speaker 1: or the mall and just pause as you're walking through
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Speaker 1: the parking lot or entering the doors and look around
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Speaker 1: at everybody going past, seemingly focused on what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: How many of those people are on probation, out on
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Speaker 1: parole thinking about something that would probably shock you to
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Speaker 1: the core. You can't look at people and tell what's
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Speaker 1: going on and their heart in their mind. When you
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Speaker 1: pull up at a red line, look at either side
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Speaker 1: of you, there's no way you would know that there
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Speaker 1: are killers amongst us. I, Nancy Grace, this is Killers
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Speaker 1: amongst Us. Thank you for being with us here a kau.
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Speaker 1: I want to first talk about a beautiful young mom
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Speaker 1: or named Michelle Parker in the prime of her life,
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Speaker 1: just hit thirty two beautiful twins just like me, boy
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Speaker 1: girl twins plus an eleven year old son, the joy
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Speaker 1: of her life. So how is it that one day
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker simply doesn't show up for work. First of all,
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Speaker 1: an all star panel joining me to dissect the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: Steve helling with me you know his name well from
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Speaker 1: people dot Com joining us Doctor Jen Mann, marriage family therapists,
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Speaker 1: hosts of Couples Therapy v H one of The Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jen Show on series exem author of The Relationship Fix,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, director of the Coal Case Research Institute, and
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Speaker 1: crime scene Expert. Special lawyer John W. Deal PI lawyer
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Speaker 1: who has been on the Parker's team from the get go,
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Speaker 1: searching for answers. First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker is no stranger to hard work. It's not
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Speaker 1: easy to juggle multiple jobs and a family. This thirty
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Speaker 1: three year old beauty is a mom of three, a
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Speaker 1: bartender and entrepreneur, and a student. Not only did she
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Speaker 1: pour drinks at one of the most popular bars in Sanford, Florida,
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Speaker 1: the Marne, she also ran a tanning business using her
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Speaker 1: SUV as a mobile billboard, a vehicle wrap with glow
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Speaker 1: mobile airbrush tanning salon clearly visible down the side. On
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Speaker 1: top of this, she was studying in cosmetology, working on
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Speaker 1: getting her license to work alongside her mother in the
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Speaker 1: family slaw lord. Just hearing all that makes me tired,
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Speaker 1: Let me back it up here. Okay, my niece worked
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Speaker 1: as a bartender briefly, and she's brilliant, all right. She
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Speaker 1: got through Stanford with all a's, I might add, she
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Speaker 1: then went on to grad school and creative writing, but
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Speaker 1: she wanted to work at a bar. Okay, you know
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Speaker 1: how early they have to get there to quote set up.
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Speaker 1: They have to cut all the limes, all the limits.
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Speaker 1: They have to prep and prep and prep. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you might as well go on to the Cordon Blue
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Speaker 1: and become a chef for as much time as it
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Speaker 1: takes you to set up a bar for Pete's sake
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Speaker 1: for one night. So this woman not only is a
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Speaker 1: mom of three, she works at this highly popular bar
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Speaker 1: sand for Florida, the Barn, She runs a tanning business,
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Speaker 1: uses her suv as a mobile billboard. Of course, I
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Speaker 1: always stop and nearly run off the road every time
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Speaker 1: I see one of those trucks or a car or
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Speaker 1: an suv with the ad on the side of it.
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Speaker 1: And this woman seemingly did it all. Plus she's a
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Speaker 1: student to Steve Halling. Who is this superwoman Michelle Parker?
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Speaker 1: You know, she was one of those women that you
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Speaker 1: you know, you think she's really well put together. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how she did it all, you know, with
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Speaker 1: the kids, with her job with the school, but she
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Speaker 1: managed to do it, and she managed to do it
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Speaker 1: very well, to the point where all of her friends
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Speaker 1: and family were would question her, how do you stay
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Speaker 1: so well put together while you are doing all these things?
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Speaker 1: She just had boundless energy and she was She was
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Speaker 1: an amazing woman. You know, Cheryl McCullum. If you looked
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Speaker 1: at her pictures, her hair is actually shiny. You were saying,
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Speaker 1: she's got beautiful dark hair and it's just shiny. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's those treatments you can put on your hair. I
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Speaker 1: guess it's some type of glycerin. But that's not It
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Speaker 1: can't mean that because in every picture, no matter what
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Speaker 1: she's doing, she looks like a supermodel. She looks like
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Speaker 1: a supermodel, and she looks happy. I mean, she looks
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Speaker 1: like the kind of person that you would just want
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Speaker 1: to hang out with. And three children, of course, not
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Speaker 1: putting the cart before the horse. I want to find
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Speaker 1: out who this woman is. John dial on Team Parker,
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Speaker 1: personal injury lawyer joining us, John, what can you tell
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Speaker 1: me about her? Well, like the others are saying, she
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Speaker 1: was just a bright light, certainly in her children's lives
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Speaker 1: that you know. Her mom will tell you that she
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Speaker 1: was a great mother herself. The family itself was very close,
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Speaker 1: and she really was a superwoman. And you know how
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Speaker 1: hard it is when you're working not just one job,
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Speaker 1: but two to raise children, and she was fantastic at it. Man,
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Speaker 1: tell me about it, John, I have to get up
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Speaker 1: at five o'clock every morning just to hold it together
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Speaker 1: between the twins, my eighty nine year old mother, my husband,
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Speaker 1: two guinea pigs, a cat, and a dog. This place
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Speaker 1: is rocking, I can tell you that much. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen when people ask about who is Michelle Parker? Listen,
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Speaker 1: ask Michelle Parker's family and friends, and they will tell
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Speaker 1: you her good looks turned heads. Her friends will also
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Speaker 1: tell you that she has an amazing personality and a
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Speaker 1: big heart. It was that combination her dark hair and
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Speaker 1: bright white smile and big heart that caught the attention
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Speaker 1: of Dale Smith, a former marine. The couple plans alive together.
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Speaker 1: Smith pops the question with a five thousand dollars engagement ring.
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Speaker 1: The couple also have three year old twins. A five
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars engagement ring well, that's enough to kidnap somebody
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Speaker 1: right there. All the years I have lived in New York,
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Speaker 1: I say, do not wear that on the subway. Just
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Speaker 1: get rid of that right now unless you want your
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Speaker 1: finger cut off by the time you get off the subway.
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Speaker 1: You know, this woman sounds like a supermom. I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to count all of the jobs she has. You know,
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Speaker 1: to doctor jen Mann, you're the therapist. I mean juggling.
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Speaker 1: I know because I've done it. I guess since I
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Speaker 1: was fifteen, juggling multiple jobs. You have to be able
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Speaker 1: to what do you say, when you separate, compartmentalize, you
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Speaker 1: have to be able to compartmentalize everything to pull it
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Speaker 1: all off, I guess, doctor Man. And I too, am
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Speaker 1: a twin mom, and I marvel at all that this
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Speaker 1: woman did and does. I mean, it's just it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: And you know the thing is, and you know as
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Speaker 1: a as a mom of twins that in order to
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Speaker 1: manage children, in order to have a job, in order
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Speaker 1: to you described in beautiful detail what it takes to
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Speaker 1: open and close a bar or restaurant, all that sort
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Speaker 1: of stuff, you have to be highly competent and highly
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Speaker 1: devoted to what you need. And this is someone who
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Speaker 1: was functioning at a very very high level and was
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Speaker 1: very committed to all of the things that she didn't
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Speaker 1: all of the people who she took care of, which
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Speaker 1: you know, functioning at the high level that you just described,
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Speaker 1: tells me that there is no way this woman just
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Speaker 1: forgot to mention she was going on a vacation. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a gorgeous young mom. Michelle Parker twins
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Speaker 1: boy girl twins three years old at the time, plus
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Speaker 1: an eleven year old son. Then she meets mister Wright.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at HL and Shechelle
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Speaker 1: Parker has like a lot of women that you see
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Speaker 1: around here in Orlando. She had these big dreams, She
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Speaker 1: had these big plans, and she was making steps to
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Speaker 1: make her dreams come true. Michelle was just a hard
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Speaker 1: working single mother of three. She had two jobs. She
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Speaker 1: would bartend at night. She also had a tanning business,
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Speaker 1: which she advertised with decals on her hummer. She was
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Speaker 1: also going to cosmetology school. She wanted to make a
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Speaker 1: better life for herself and also her three kids. She
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Speaker 1: worked hard, she loved her kids. She was an awesome mom.
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Speaker 1: Those kids are so well taken care of. If you
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Speaker 1: look at her photos, you can tell that cosmetology was
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Speaker 1: important to her. She was always made up, always had
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Speaker 1: her nail side, who always had her hair done right.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't school to get the license and the certification
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Speaker 1: to one day work for her mother and the salon.
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Speaker 1: Steve Ellie, I said, hlm, And I'm pretty sure I
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Speaker 1: recognize your voice just then, right, you know, Steve, I
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Speaker 1: always was told growing up, you know, if you get
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Speaker 1: through school and you make good grades and you go
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Speaker 1: to college, then everything will be in place and everything's
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Speaker 1: going to be fine. And that's, you know, basically what
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Speaker 1: I tell my children too. You gotta work really hard
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Speaker 1: and you'll break through somehow. And that's what this mom
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Speaker 1: is trying to do. When I hear about her working
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Speaker 1: all day, working at nights as well, and going to school,
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Speaker 1: the burden on her. But I also think, Steve Helling,
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Speaker 1: of all the people that she comes in contact with,
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Speaker 1: you know, freaks at a bar, you know, how do
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Speaker 1: I know some pearl of hadn't been sitting at her
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Speaker 1: bar while she's you know, slicing up the limes and
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Speaker 1: lemons fixating on her? How do I know who watches
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Speaker 1: her leave the parking lot and follows her home and
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Speaker 1: knows where she goes. And then you've got her at school.
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Speaker 1: Who's there? How do I know who she comes in
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Speaker 1: contact with at school? I mean, she's working so many
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Speaker 1: jobs she's going to school. You get people get focused
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Speaker 1: on her hummer that you just describe because it's plastered
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Speaker 1: and one of those vehicle wraps they're always bright colors.
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Speaker 1: And then you look at the driver's seat and there's
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Speaker 1: this gorgeous woman in there right absolutely. You know. The
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Speaker 1: interesting thing is, you know people focus on that armor
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Speaker 1: and say, oh, Okay, this is a woman that just
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Speaker 1: had things handed her. No, she's worked very hard for
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Speaker 1: a very nice vehicle to be her be a billboard
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Speaker 1: for her business. I mean, this is the woman who
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Speaker 1: knew the value of hard work. And like you said,
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Speaker 1: she came in contact with dozes the people every day
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Speaker 1: and we don't know who all of them work. Okay,
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Speaker 1: right there, John w Deal, high profile personal injury lawyer,
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Speaker 1: are joining us, John, where do you pride to sphere's
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Speaker 1: your office. I'm in Orlando. I'm Rolando, Florida. Right here,
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Speaker 1: you're in Orlando. Do you have a website. It's John W.
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Speaker 1: Deal dot com. Well, I should have guessed that, because
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Speaker 1: I want to look at your picture while I'm talking
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Speaker 1: to you. John W. Deal joining us. He's on team
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker looking for answers. You know, have you ever
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Speaker 1: looked for a new home or a condo John ever?
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Speaker 1: In your life? I have? Okay, have you ever noticed
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Speaker 1: the real estate agents are always perfect? Right? They look perfect?
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Speaker 1: I mean I usually have dealt with female agents in
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Speaker 1: the past because no offense, John Deal. Sometimes men can
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Speaker 1: be really bossy, so I just go with a lady
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Speaker 1: that will hear what I'm saying. No, I fancy Steve
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Speaker 1: Halling and John Deal, but they always look perfect, and
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Speaker 1: they always have on a perfect outfit. They smell good.
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Speaker 1: They're always driving a fancy car. You know, I pull
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Speaker 1: up in my beat up minivan. They're like ug. I
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Speaker 1: guess it's because you want people to believe in you
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Speaker 1: and think you're successful, because why would you go Let
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Speaker 1: me just put it like this to a cosmatologist that
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Speaker 1: had horrible nails, makeup, and hair. I mean, think about
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Speaker 1: a deal. Oh exactly, and Blake Steve was saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: this is a woman who really was pulling yourself up.
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Speaker 1: You know, didn't wasn't handed anything, was a hard worker
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Speaker 1: and you know put her soul down only into her
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Speaker 1: business and improving your life, that improving her family. I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on, Cheryl McCallum, you hear what deal is saying, right,
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Speaker 1: It's like, um, why would you go to a cosmatologist
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Speaker 1: if you look down and their nails are like, oh,
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Speaker 1: bitten off and little lots of red or whatever on them,
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Speaker 1: like you know, lucy as you know as a perfectionist.
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Speaker 1: But have you ever seen Cheryl McCollum where little girls
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Speaker 1: have their fingernails are all messed up? Thinking? Is that
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Speaker 1: why this woman is so darned beautiful? Because she's got
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Speaker 1: to present to other people? You know, I think that's
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Speaker 1: part everything. I've heard it again when you're looking at
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Speaker 1: the victimology. I think she's beautiful from the inside out.
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Speaker 1: I think her heart is very clear. I think she
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Speaker 1: loves her family, she loves her children, she loves her school,
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Speaker 1: she loves all her clients, and I think it shows
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Speaker 1: in what she does. So again, for me, the victimology,
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Speaker 1: you start looking at her inner circle, that immediate group,
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Speaker 1: and then that first layer, you know, alpha Bravo Charlie Group.
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Speaker 1: So it reminds me kind of Alice and Foy out
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Speaker 1: of South Carolina that went missing. She worked at a
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Speaker 1: bar or was last seen at a bar and just disappeared.
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Speaker 1: So you start thinking, who comes to that bar? Is
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Speaker 1: there a lift driver or a taxicab drivers or anybody's
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Speaker 1: stalking her because she is beautiful? Doctor Jen Man Caud
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Speaker 1: you follow up on I know, I'm just a trial lawyer.
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Speaker 1: You're the shrink. Guys, I'm talking to doctor Jen Man
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Speaker 1: or the doctor gen Shaw and serious XM and author.
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Speaker 1: She is a therapist, doctor Man. What is it? Why
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Speaker 1: are for instance, real estate people so perfect? Or have
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Speaker 1: you ever looked at car salesman? They always have on
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Speaker 1: the best shoes and the nicest outfit, and their hair
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Speaker 1: is always perfect. Everything about them there's just something, Oh,
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Speaker 1: I should think of my brother, he was a pharmaceutical
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Speaker 1: sales rep for years. Can I tell you he's got
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Speaker 1: more clothes than I have, His hair, his nails, his
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Speaker 1: everything is so much better than mine. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: it takes a lot to drag me out of my
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Speaker 1: army jacket. And it's just something that you present. There's
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Speaker 1: something in you and this woman was like a magnet,
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Speaker 1: as Cheryl McCollum says, she had a good heart. People
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Speaker 1: love being around her. You know that kind of person.
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Speaker 1: It's an upper not a downer for sure, for sure.
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Speaker 1: And I think that part of this is that this
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Speaker 1: is someone who, like I was saying before, it's just
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Speaker 1: highly confident and it leaks into every area of her life.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna look good, she's going to dress well, she's
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Speaker 1: gonna get the job done. She's going to show up
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Speaker 1: at work and open the bar and make it look
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Speaker 1: really easy and be the mom of twins and an
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Speaker 1: additional child Like this is someone who just knew how
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Speaker 1: to get it done and was just very very capable
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Speaker 1: and very able. And you know, sometimes those kind of
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Speaker 1: people had to be a little more sort of type
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Speaker 1: A personalities that they can juggle everything and do it
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Speaker 1: and do it with perfection. Steve Helling, you know his name, well,
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Speaker 1: reporter with People Magazine, People dot Com, I understand. Then
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Speaker 1: comes in mister Roy who got down on when day
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Speaker 1: and pops the question with a five thousand dollars engagement ring.
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Speaker 1: So tell me about him? How did he manage to
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Speaker 1: reel in Michelle Parker. Well, you know, I think mister
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Speaker 1: Wright was a handsome guy. I think you know she
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Speaker 1: you know, you got to give me more than a
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Speaker 1: handsome because you can say that about Scott Peterson. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, but I do know he. I mean I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at him right now. He I guess with the
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Speaker 1: accepted version of what is handsome in the world, this
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Speaker 1: would probably he looks like a young Robert Redford to
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Speaker 1: man this picture. Look look look at this picture right there.
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Speaker 1: You don't see that comparison. I'm making the perfect teeth,
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Speaker 1: the strong chin, the blonde hair, rugged but still good
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Speaker 1: looking according to most people. So how did these two meet?
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Speaker 1: What's their history? And how did he get her to
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Speaker 1: agree to get married? You know, they they met through work,
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Speaker 1: and they met through friends and and you know, like
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Speaker 1: normal people meet. And then how did he get her?
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Speaker 1: He was charming, he was handsome, and he's showed interest
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Speaker 1: in her, and I mean she was you know, very
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that's all it takes somebody to show interest.
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, buy you a diet coke a McDonald's
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Speaker 1: and you're in. I think she'd be harder to reel
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Speaker 1: end than than than that. Just show you know, Steve Halling,
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Speaker 1: are you married? Yes? I am? Okay, please. I hope
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Speaker 1: your wife never hears what you just said that Michelle
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Speaker 1: Parker agreed to get married because he quotes showed interest.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a man is a man. Of course, he's
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Speaker 1: going to show interest in a woman for the most part. Yes,
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Speaker 1: if it's got a skirt, they're going to be interested.
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Speaker 1: But it takes more to get married. Okay, So this guy,
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Speaker 1: what can't you tell me about? You know, Steve Helling,
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna tell your wife what you've just said.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel it's my duty to tell her.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, well, I will say that. You know, he
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Speaker 1: you know, when they started dating, he paid attention to her,
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Speaker 1: he cared for her, and you know she felt happy
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Speaker 1: and safe and loved by him. So you know, it
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Speaker 1: was like, I guess my point is, this wasn't some
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Speaker 1: weird relationships. This was the relationships that we all have.
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Speaker 1: You know, we meet, we start getting closer, we fall
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Speaker 1: in love. That's that's very normal, and that's what we
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Speaker 1: Shall Parker had going on. You know, it just seems
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Speaker 1: picture perfect to me. And then they have the children.
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Speaker 1: John w Deal Personal Injury lawyer out of Orlando. You
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Speaker 1: can find him at Johnwedeal dot com. Deal as in pickle.
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Speaker 1: That's right, John. Tell me about this guy that managed
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Speaker 1: to snare Michelle Parker. Well, you know he as you
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Speaker 1: see from the picture. He was a good looking guy, blonde,
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Speaker 1: harns and shape. Um you know, had been a vad Now, John, John, John.
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Speaker 1: When I look at my husband, I know people may
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Speaker 1: thank he's good looking. But you know, I'm looking for
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Speaker 1: somebody that will push the trash out for me. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody. They'll be there in the lurch.
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. John David threw a fit to go rafting.
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Speaker 1: All right. So I was home from New York that
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Speaker 1: weekend and we went up to Cherokee and gone on
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Speaker 1: what I thought to be what I thought to be
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Speaker 1: a smooth body of water. And I'll never forget. When
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Speaker 1: we were going over there, the guy on the bus said,
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Speaker 1: you guys want life jackets. I'm like, yeah, give me some.
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Speaker 1: And they had them for the I said, at least
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Speaker 1: for the twins, for Pete's sake. So I put life
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Speaker 1: jackets on the twins. Well, long story short, you know
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Speaker 1: where this is going. It was not smooth at all.
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Speaker 1: There was an undercurrent big time, and I managed to
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Speaker 1: get things were going sideways fast. I got Lucy to
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Speaker 1: the side, I couldn't touch the bottom of the water.
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Speaker 1: I somehow went against the current and got John David
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Speaker 1: to the tip of a tree. And John David, like
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Speaker 1: a little monkey, crawled up in the tree and hung
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Speaker 1: on for dear life and I couldn't. I finally got
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Speaker 1: my foot on a rock and stupidly was also wearing
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Speaker 1: crocs just to make it worse, and my foot slipped
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Speaker 1: and I went under and guess what happened. That's to
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Speaker 1: say what David Lynch, my husband, with the blood running
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Speaker 1: down his face because he had also gone under and
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Speaker 1: hit a rock at the bottom of the white water,
20:46
Speaker 1: grabbed my arm as I was going under and pulled
20:51
Speaker 1: me out. Oh, we're thankful to him. Yeah. So I
20:56
Speaker 1: don't want some guy that, when I'm in need as
20:58
Speaker 1: running across the street to buy a pack of cigarettes. Okay,
21:01
Speaker 1: don't need it. So all this business about how good
21:04
Speaker 1: looking he is, Yes, I did it myself, But tell
21:06
Speaker 1: me something else. How did this guy what's special about him?
21:09
Speaker 1: I suspect that there was a charm factor as well.
21:14
Speaker 1: He knew how to seduce, he knew how to charm,
21:18
Speaker 1: he knew how to put women at eat. Now that's
21:23
Speaker 1: interesting because you can have a guy. I remember I
21:27
Speaker 1: went stated a guy like this. Nobody else thought he
21:30
Speaker 1: was cute in the least, but he was so funny
21:34
Speaker 1: and he was so smart that I had the best
21:38
Speaker 1: time dating him. Sadly, he was an atheist. I knew
21:41
Speaker 1: that was never going to work for me. I moved on.
21:45
Speaker 1: Long story short, you don't have to be great looking,
21:49
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a millionaire. But if you
21:51
Speaker 1: have that charm that I think doctor jen Man was
21:54
Speaker 1: just describing that clinches the deal. So here we go.
22:00
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at hl N. She's
22:03
Speaker 1: like a magnet. She just draws people in. She's a beautiful,
22:06
Speaker 1: beautiful person. Michelle Parker turn had She turned Dale Smith's head,
22:11
Speaker 1: and he was good looking. She was good looking. Michel
22:14
Speaker 1: Parker and Dale Smith had twins together then were even engaged.
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Speaker 1: At one point. Michelle was also taking care of her
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Speaker 1: eleven year old son from a previous relationship. They max
22:26
Speaker 1: they fell in love. You know. Steve Helling reporting for HLN,
22:30
Speaker 1: Right there, Steve Helling joining me from people dot com.
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Speaker 1: So the relationship was good. Then they were blessed with
22:38
Speaker 1: boy girl twins. That can be stressful, but I gotta
22:42
Speaker 1: tell you it's the best thing that ever happened to
22:44
Speaker 1: me on this earth anyway, as having those twins with David,
22:47
Speaker 1: my husband. So they had everything going for them. Steve Helling,
22:54
Speaker 1: tell me about the twins. When did they come along? Yeah,
22:58
Speaker 1: the twins came along, you know, after they after Michelle
23:03
Speaker 1: and this guy had been together for a little while. Um,
23:06
Speaker 1: not necessarily they were surprised twins, which but both of
23:11
Speaker 1: them were excited to have these these babies. And you know,
23:14
Speaker 1: by all accounts, Michelle just screwed herself into taking care
23:19
Speaker 1: of these this boy and this little girl. Um, you know,
23:23
Speaker 1: despite everything else that she had going on in her life.
23:26
Speaker 1: I've not talked to a single person who said that
23:30
Speaker 1: she was ever absent from those twins. You know, she was.
23:34
Speaker 1: She was with them every spare minute that she had.
23:37
Speaker 1: So how is it that everything's going along just fine
23:44
Speaker 1: and suddenly she Michelle Parker just doesn't show up for work.
23:51
Speaker 1: Steve Haling, reporter People dot com who raised the alarm. Well,
23:55
Speaker 1: like you said, she didn't show up for work, and
23:57
Speaker 1: that is not something you would expect to Michelle Parker.
24:00
Speaker 1: She was when she went to work, She was on
24:03
Speaker 1: time to work, and she was one of those who
24:04
Speaker 1: felt like if she wasn't a couple of nights early,
24:06
Speaker 1: she was late. So, you know, when she didn't show
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Speaker 1: up to work, you know, then everybody started calling around
24:12
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, hey, have you seen Michelle? You know,
24:16
Speaker 1: and you know, because she was supposed to be there
24:18
Speaker 1: and she wasn't and that was really out of the
24:20
Speaker 1: ordinary for everybody. And which job was this that she
24:24
Speaker 1: was headed to? This was she didn't show up to
24:27
Speaker 1: the bartending job that night because I know she dropped
24:33
Speaker 1: the twins off for Baby Center. And then that was
24:37
Speaker 1: a little after three, at three thirty pm, Michelle's eleven
24:43
Speaker 1: year old son gets home from school. Then shortly after
24:47
Speaker 1: that he calls his grandma and says, where's a mom.
24:55
Speaker 1: Shortly after that, Michelle is a brother. Dustin sends her
24:59
Speaker 1: text message and he gets a reply with a single
25:04
Speaker 1: word Waterford. Where is Waterford? Steve Helen the Waterford. There's
25:10
Speaker 1: an area called Waterford Lakes, which is kind of the
25:14
Speaker 1: east side of Orlando. It's give University of Central Florida.
25:17
Speaker 1: It's actually very far from anything that that Michelle's it's
25:22
Speaker 1: not close to her work, it's not close to her home,
25:25
Speaker 1: but it's really on the other side of town. And
25:27
Speaker 1: to you, John W. Dill, lawyer on team Michelle Parker
25:32
Speaker 1: are looking for our answers. Do I have the timeline correct? Yeah,
25:36
Speaker 1: that's right. It was around four twenty four, twenty five
25:40
Speaker 1: in the afternoon that Michelle's brother texted her and that
25:43
Speaker 1: reply Waterford came back, and then there's more attempts for
25:48
Speaker 1: the next couple of hours to get ahold of her
25:50
Speaker 1: by phone, and she's not reachable. You know, Cheryl McCollum,
25:54
Speaker 1: This woman had never quote God missing before, never, And
26:01
Speaker 1: I mean, you know she's in her right mind, you know,
26:04
Speaker 1: you hear, Oh, the mom's overwhelmed, she's got postpartum depression,
26:07
Speaker 1: blah blah. That's not true. Here she was on her
26:10
Speaker 1: way to work, looking great as usual, drop the twins
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Speaker 1: off for a babysitter, gets back in the car, and
26:17
Speaker 1: then she seemingly vanishes into thin air. And I always say,
26:21
Speaker 1: when you don't know a horse, look at the track record.
26:24
Speaker 1: She had never taken off with a secret boyfriend. She
26:27
Speaker 1: had never even gone away for the weekend without telling anybody.
26:30
Speaker 1: Cheryld not just that Nancy. They said she had never
26:33
Speaker 1: one time sent a one word response to a text.
26:37
Speaker 1: She was known for her takes as being novels. I
26:40
Speaker 1: mean she would send a whole story back. So if
26:43
Speaker 1: she was running late getting home to meet her eleven
26:46
Speaker 1: year old after school, she would have been the one
26:49
Speaker 1: calling her brother, not the other way around. And to
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Speaker 1: doctor Jen Mann, who is the star of the Doctor
26:58
Speaker 1: Jin show on series Sex sim and author. She's also
27:04
Speaker 1: a host at VH one, Doctor Jen, I always look
27:08
Speaker 1: if I don't know what has happened or what is
27:12
Speaker 1: going to happen, I look at a track record and
27:17
Speaker 1: we always hear, oh, she ran off with a boyfriend,
27:19
Speaker 1: she had a lover. That is so lame. Yes, I
27:25
Speaker 1: would agree. And as therapists we look at patterns of behavior,
27:29
Speaker 1: and her pattern of behavior was that she was someone
27:33
Speaker 1: who showed up on time. She took her commitments seriously.
27:36
Speaker 1: She was a devoted mother. The idea that she would
27:39
Speaker 1: leave her children without notifying someone and taking appropriate precautions
27:46
Speaker 1: to make sure they were cared for it that they
27:48
Speaker 1: knew when she was returning is absurd. It just is
27:52
Speaker 1: totally inconsistent with her values, with her personality, with her ethics,
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Speaker 1: and who she was at the core Michelle Parker seemingly
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Speaker 1: vanishing into thin air. I don't buy it. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: killers amongst us, signing off Goodbye friend,