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The Acupuncture Chronicles · Johnjay & Rich On Demand

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  Speaker 1: Wake up, John Jay and Rich.
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  Speaker 2: You're what's crack ag and this is the big bulls do.
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  Speaker 3: Snoopy deagle, double jigsel dank boom, what you don't do
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  Speaker 3: j we're not talking about rich ten team, We're not
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  Speaker 3: talking about last year.
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  Speaker 2: It's the one and only.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you know the glass lastly pikes your vegle double
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  Speaker 4: jibble in your face to be and in the place.
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  Speaker 5: To be And you're listening to John Jay.
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  Speaker 1: And Rich one old fort seven, Kiss fab John J.
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  Speaker 2: And Rich. You can text us. You text jj R.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta put the jj R in front of it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you gotta do the JJR.
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  Speaker 2: Then whatever you want to say, and you text ninety
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  Speaker 2: six eight ninety three. We'll get your text. We'll call
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  Speaker 2: you back, we'll read your text.
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  Speaker 1: John J. Rich's first time concert was Billie Eilish, who
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  Speaker 1: was amazing. And to get to experience with my daughter
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  Speaker 1: who listens to her since she was in middle school
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  Speaker 1: and all the way through middle school, is a fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the tickets.
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  Speaker 4: You're welcome, and I feel like going to a Billie
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  Speaker 4: Eilish concert like that. Seriously, even if you're not a
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  Speaker 4: fan is such an insane experiences because the way that
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  Speaker 4: she just has the crowd like in the palm of
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  Speaker 4: her hands is just beyond me. It is magical truth.
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  Speaker 5: That means it cranked up in a stadium. It is
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  Speaker 5: so cool too. Thats one of my favorite concerts the
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  Speaker 5: last few years.
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  Speaker 2: So Rich, last week you shared with us how you
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  Speaker 2: fell running downhill, and then a couple days later you
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  Speaker 2: were going to the lot Pup Family fast pulling some
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  Speaker 2: equipment in a wagon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just hurt your knee like it's split, it snapped.
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  Speaker 3: I've never experienced that before, but I mean, everybody knows
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  Speaker 3: pulling a wagon is hard, dangerous, a hard hat. I
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  Speaker 3: was told to change my origin story. Let my wife's
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  Speaker 3: like jumping up on stage jumping around with a guitar.
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  Speaker 3: That's a cool way to hurt yourself. Pulling a wagon
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  Speaker 3: is not very rock.
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  Speaker 6: Well, then we taped a podcasted talking stick Resort and
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  Speaker 6: Rich was wheeled in in a wheelchair.
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  Speaker 1: I could not walk at all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I could put a little bit of weight on it,
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  Speaker 5: but it felt like my leg which is gonna collapse.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, you know what you just made me
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  Speaker 2: think of something the way you hurt yourself. Was not
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  Speaker 2: like to say I was on stage rocking out the
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  Speaker 2: band is a cool way, it would be cool? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Why do we have people call it with really cool ways?
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  Speaker 2: You heard yourself like jumping down the helicopter trying to
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  Speaker 2: save somebody from a flood and you're holding on the
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  Speaker 2: helicopter and you your arm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Now Rich.
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  Speaker 5: Is pulling a wagon, a little blue wagon, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: a little blue wagon anyway. So I've been doing PETE
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  Speaker 5: every day because I'm really trying to avoid anything like
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  Speaker 5: surgery or letting it get worse, right, And so what
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  Speaker 5: I've heard is you take the you know, the steroid
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  Speaker 5: to bring down the inflammation, but you're supposed to work
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  Speaker 5: it through PETA and all that because that way you
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  Speaker 5: can get it stronger. And they don't really want me
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  Speaker 5: on crutches. They want me to learn how to walk.
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  Speaker 5: So one of the things they suggested was acupuncture, which
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  Speaker 5: I've done once a long time ago but don't really
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  Speaker 5: remember it. But I went and did it yesterday. Acupuncture
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  Speaker 5: and you lay down on the table and they start,
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  Speaker 5: I think they feel around. They say they feel around
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  Speaker 5: for like hotspots that might you know, be you know,
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  Speaker 5: like like your body has a little finger. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: then they stick the needles and they're pretty far and
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  Speaker 5: it hurts in some spots. It hurts a lot, and
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  Speaker 5: they put them, like in my lower back.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't supposed to hurt at all.
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  Speaker 3: I feel it.
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  Speaker 1: You do feel it some. There might be a few places,
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  Speaker 1: like they put a good Christopher give it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's where you felt this sixty year.
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  Speaker 5: Old Like if they put some stuff like you know
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  Speaker 5: where you get a little more flesh, like in your
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  Speaker 5: butt or something like that, you don't really feel. But
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  Speaker 5: I felt it in my lower back and it aches
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  Speaker 5: the whole time, and then my ankle and my shining
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  Speaker 5: around my knees and all that.
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  Speaker 3: So I asked them.
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  Speaker 5: They think they put twenty twenty or so needles in,
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  Speaker 5: But by the time it was done, I think it
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  Speaker 5: helped me a lot. I think I feel maybe fifty percent.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, let me ask you, so, did it hurt
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  Speaker 4: like it was causing pain or was it just achy
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  Speaker 4: and sore? Okay, because there's a very, okay, very big
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  Speaker 4: difference between something hurting.
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  Speaker 5: And something it was saky. But you know, like those
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  Speaker 5: eggs that like you can feel in your stomach that
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  Speaker 5: kind of ache. Where as soon as the timer went off,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, whyn't in here removing the needles?
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  Speaker 1: Why ant in here?
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  Speaker 5: What if the electricity goes off and leaves me and
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  Speaker 5: they leave me in this room, I might have to
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  Speaker 5: pull out my own needles, Like I can't move. I
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  Speaker 5: was freaking out once the clock because I was ready,
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  Speaker 5: I was done, but it helped, Like, so I know
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about doing it for yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually am going today.
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  Speaker 1: I made appointment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I made an appointment to do acupuncture in my
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  Speaker 4: shoulder because I have like the worst shoulder pain. I
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  Speaker 4: dissocated it when I was in college and I was
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  Speaker 4: told that I tore my labrum. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I never want to know, like an MRI or don't
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  Speaker 1: do that judging parabrum in my shoulder as a part judging.
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  Speaker 4: And so I was looking up things that would help
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  Speaker 4: alleviate the pain. And one of the things I discovered
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  Speaker 4: was that acupuncture could really hurt or help. But I
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  Speaker 4: looked it up and hurt, and it said it doesn't hurt,
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  Speaker 4: it aches. That's why when you said it hurts, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, what are you talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Is the same.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you guys, I'm sure you guys read the article
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  Speaker 2: about me in the New York Post.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, is it out here.
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  Speaker 2: I am very much a biohacker. I don't know stuff
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  Speaker 2: about you know, healing and whatnot. And I have done
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  Speaker 2: acupuncture many times many Now there is a difference, though,
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  Speaker 2: Did you get acupuncture or did you get dry needling?
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  Speaker 1: Did they hook up any electricity to them?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you got acupuncture, okay, because I know there's
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  Speaker 2: I think the difference is the person doing it, Like
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  Speaker 2: if it's a PTE person, I believe it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is the electricity with the they do that.
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  Speaker 2: They do that, but I thought if it was if yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they stick the needles in you just the same, there's
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  Speaker 2: almost identical to the actual little electricity through it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or they don't. It's they did.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like, and maybe I can google it
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  Speaker 2: or maybe call you can what's the different between acupuncture
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  Speaker 2: and dry needdling, because I feel it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's the person that doesn't. If the person is an
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  Speaker 2: Eastern medicine doctor, it's acupuncture. If it's a PETE person,
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  Speaker 2: it's dry needdling. And one of them is illegal in
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  Speaker 2: this state something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The place that I'm going to is like a Chinese ocupuncture.
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  Speaker 2: There's keep in mind, you know, I'm only an expert
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  Speaker 2: because they write about me the New York Post.
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  Speaker 5: And they say though, like with the needles, like when
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  Speaker 5: your body starts healing it, it'll push the needles out
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  Speaker 5: of your body.
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  Speaker 1: None of them pushed out of my bottle.
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  Speaker 6: The main difference is that acupuncture is based on traditional
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  Speaker 6: Chinese medicine, while dry needling is rooted in Western medicine principles.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just like I'm also getting a foot reflex massage,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: Reflexology, that's that. Yeah, yeah, so excited like this.
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  Speaker 6: The acupuncture uses meridian lines to balance your body's energy
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  Speaker 6: or your cheat to treat a variety of conditions, and
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  Speaker 6: dry needling is targeted approach that inserts needles into like
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  Speaker 6: myofacial trigger points in the muscles to relieve pain and
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  Speaker 6: improof fund.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think you have. I had acupuncture. I
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  Speaker 1: think your guy got it wrong.
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  Speaker 6: It seems like the dry needling would work better for
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  Speaker 6: you if you are trying to relieve pain and improve function.
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  Speaker 2: But again, New York Post. Whatever I have, people says posts,
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  Speaker 2: I'll go correct somebody that they do an exercise. Take
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  Speaker 2: you yourroubles little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, New York Posts.
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  Speaker 5: They're reposting this article about you. Of course we can
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  Speaker 5: all we can all join along. Of course I want
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  Speaker 5: to read that. I want to hear what you said
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  Speaker 5: and how it ended up in print, because I heard
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  Speaker 5: some ridiculous things. Is it out?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Of course? Are you happy with it? You were
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  Speaker 1: worried about ready yet? Oh I just heard it out?
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  Speaker 1: Of course you. I'll post the link up there.
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  Speaker 5: What you should do is copy and paste it into
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  Speaker 5: chad GPT and say, tell me what's good about this article.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's an idiot. Summarize it's John Jaye Ritch