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ON THE RUN: Blonde Warden "Missing" With Killer, New Details · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last hours. Brand
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  Speaker 1: new surveillance footage has been released from a local hotel
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  Speaker 1: showing the warden slash lover strutting back and forth and
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  Speaker 1: back and forth in a hotel lobby the very same day,
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  Speaker 1: within hours of her springing A killer and I mean
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  Speaker 1: a stone cold killer, I mean Nancy Grace. This is
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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  Speaker 1: Fox Nation in series XM one eleven. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at W A A
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  Speaker 1: Y thirty one. We start with new details in the
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  Speaker 1: nationwide man hunt for an escape Lauderdale County inmates and
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  Speaker 1: corrections a supervisor who the Sheriff's office says helped him.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look at your screen now. This is new
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  Speaker 1: video from the Lauderdale A Sheriff's Office. It shows former
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  Speaker 1: corrections supervisor of Vicky White. You can see her right
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  Speaker 1: there moving around on the screen. She was checking out
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  Speaker 1: of the quality in in Florence in this video. This
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  Speaker 1: is the same day she disappeared with capital murder suspect
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  Speaker 1: Casey White. The hotel is located near with a pair
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  Speaker 1: got into their getaway vehicle. The car was found in Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: just south of Nashville. Wow, so many questions with me
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  Speaker 1: an all star panel, But the first person I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to is special guest Sheriff Rick Singleton, the
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  Speaker 1: Laudererdale County Sheriff. Sheriff, thank you for being with us. Sheriff.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of quick things based on what we just heard.
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  Speaker 1: Where the car was found in Florence, that is north
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  Speaker 1: of Lauderdale County. Well, Florence is actually the county seat
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  Speaker 1: of Lauderdale County. The car was found in Betheza, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: which is about a two hour drive north of Florence. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you know what I got that half right? Hold on,
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  Speaker 1: So that was in Bethesda and you're saying it's two
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  Speaker 1: hours north, correct? Yes? Man? Would that suggest to you, Sheriff,
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  Speaker 1: that they are in fact headed north, because no way
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  Speaker 1: would they go two hours north and then turned back
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  Speaker 1: and circle back down. Let's just say to get lost
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. They're definitely traveling north. Wouldn't you agree with that?
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  Speaker 1: That that's the indication from where the car was found.
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  Speaker 1: We do not know how they left that area, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where the car was abandoned. If they hitched the ride,
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  Speaker 1: if they stolen another vehicle through our knowledge, we haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten any reports were stolen vehicles in the area. If
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  Speaker 1: they had a second car, you know, we're just not sure.
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  Speaker 1: We're sort of back square one on I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you about those theories, Sheriff. First, let me
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  Speaker 1: just used the rest of our panel. Joining me front
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  Speaker 1: WAAY TV multi media journalist Xavier Wery has been on
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  Speaker 1: the case in the very beginning twenty seven in years
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  Speaker 1: with the FBI. Bobby Chicone now producer, writer of original
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  Speaker 1: series After the Fall. Karen Stark Renown, a New York psychologist,
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  Speaker 1: joining us from Manhattan at Karen Stark dot com. James
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  Speaker 1: Shellnutt twenty seven years metro major case now lawyer at
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  Speaker 1: the Shellnutt Law Firm dot com. A very special guest
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  Speaker 1: in joining us. Austin Williams is here today. Austin's mother, Connie,
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  Speaker 1: was murdered by the guy that has just been sprung
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  Speaker 1: by Vicky White. Casey White no relation, admitted he murdered
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  Speaker 1: Austin's mom. Now we're focusing a lot on where the
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  Speaker 1: car is, where they are, what are they driving, what
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  Speaker 1: do they look like right now? How did it happen.
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  Speaker 1: What went wrong? Think about this? You know where I
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday? I was with my children. It was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: You know who else was with us? My mother? But
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  Speaker 1: Austin couldn't be with his mother because his mother was
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  Speaker 1: murdered by this guy. Sheriff, I want to follow up.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Chicon, James Shelnutt, everybody, Xavier jump in. Remember this
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  Speaker 1: is no tea party at High Grove. I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear every bit of information I can hear. Let's analyze
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  Speaker 1: what you just said, Sheriff, Rick Singleton. You said they
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  Speaker 1: either walked away from the car. They either hitched your ride,
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  Speaker 1: or they had another car ready. I want to analyze
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  Speaker 1: did they have another car ready? First question, Sheriff, why
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  Speaker 1: did they ditch the car? Did they have car trouble? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we're still not certain that that was the issue. The
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  Speaker 1: car was abandoned in a rural area on a county
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  Speaker 1: road where it would obviously be seen and it would
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  Speaker 1: be reported. So you know, it's either one of two things.
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  Speaker 1: Either even the vehicle there to throw us all, or
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  Speaker 1: they had car trouble. I've not heard from the investigators
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  Speaker 1: if they checked the mechanics of the car. It appeared
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  Speaker 1: from one photo I've seen, and I've not personally seen
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  Speaker 1: the car. It is being brought back here to Florence
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  Speaker 1: this morning. It appeared to had a flat tire, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that. But I will certainly have
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  Speaker 1: my investigators let me know asson we can get a
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  Speaker 1: definite determination. Okay, let's figure that out. Chacone, you're hearing
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  Speaker 1: what Sheer Singleton is saying. Here's my thinking. They tried
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  Speaker 1: to spree paint the car green. All right, so we
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  Speaker 1: know that they had a plan. They were going to
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  Speaker 1: paint the car green. For some reason, they gave up
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  Speaker 1: on that plan. If they were going to repaint the
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  Speaker 1: car green, why would they have had a second vehicle?
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  Speaker 1: That rules out thinking of a second vehicle getaway. On
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, they left the car, the getaway car,
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  Speaker 1: in a very obvious spot where it would be sane.
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  Speaker 1: That would suggest what to you that they did have
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  Speaker 1: a second vehicle. What's your prevailing train of thought, Bobby, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that. I think you're right. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: if they had a plan. B In other words, I
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  Speaker 1: think they had a plan. Something went awry with the
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  Speaker 1: plan painting the car. Whatever stopped them from doing completing that.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'd be looking at any other ways that
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  Speaker 1: they could have left that area, because you know, if
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  Speaker 1: they could have had a second car. All of this
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  Speaker 1: is still up in the air. But the way things
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  Speaker 1: look right now, that they had their plan in place,
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  Speaker 1: they were in the process of executing their plan when
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  Speaker 1: something else interrupted them. In other words, if they would
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  Speaker 1: have completed the painting of the car and they ditched
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  Speaker 1: the cars and worlds, it was completely maybe that's part
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  Speaker 1: of the plan. But this partial attempt at painting the
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  Speaker 1: car not being completed leads me to believe that that
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  Speaker 1: was part of the plan, paint the car and get
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  Speaker 1: away with the new collar. And so I think they
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  Speaker 1: were either into there are somehow had to abandon that plan.
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  Speaker 1: Whether they had a plan B or a plan C,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I doubt that they did. Well. Hold
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  Speaker 1: on just a second, Shkohn, what about this this woman
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  Speaker 1: Vicky White, Karen Stark. Have you seen remember Robert Blake?
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  Speaker 1: Can we just talk about him for a moment. He
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  Speaker 1: murdered his wife, Bonnie Lee Bakley. Remember all the lists
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  Speaker 1: that he and his cohorts had. They had very very
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  Speaker 1: inchcate lists of what they were going to buy, line
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  Speaker 1: by a shovel, do this, do that? In this case,
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  Speaker 1: Vicky White made elaborate plans and sheriff correct me if
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. She planned down to the day of her retirement.
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  Speaker 1: She sold her home ahead of time. She withdrew ninety
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars cash from multiple banks. She stayed in a
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  Speaker 1: hotel the night before. She bought the getaway car under
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  Speaker 1: an assumed name, I think with cash. She parked that
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  Speaker 1: car in a shopping center. She had a part in
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  Speaker 1: a spot where it would not be observed by surveillance video.
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  Speaker 1: She had everything planned. She'd been talking to her co
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  Speaker 1: workers about her retirement, that she was going to go
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  Speaker 1: to sit on a beach somewhere. Everything was carefully planned.
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  Speaker 1: So why wouldn't there be a plan b Karen start, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hearing what everyone had to say. Nancy. It seems
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  Speaker 1: to me, I mean, this is a very shrewd woman.
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  Speaker 1: She could have been working on this, I suspect for
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  Speaker 1: years and so there had to be some kind of
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  Speaker 1: a backup plan. If to me, if she painted it,
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  Speaker 1: they planned to paint it, they had a flat high
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  Speaker 1: or something happened. They have no doubt they found another
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  Speaker 1: vehicle build as they did something that got them to
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  Speaker 1: be able to try. Do you think they had a
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  Speaker 1: plan B? Just boil it down for me, Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a JD. You're the shrink. Plan B or
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  Speaker 1: no plan B? Very simple? Yes, Yes, you think there
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  Speaker 1: was a plan B. Okay, Sheriff Singleton. You know what
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  Speaker 1: else I think was planned? Something that his mother said,
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  Speaker 1: how she's talking about how he's really not a bad guy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: bs on that she said, Sheriff, Oh, he didn't kill
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  Speaker 1: that woman. He just confessed to it so he could
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  Speaker 1: get brought back to the local jail. So I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: how long this plan had been in the works. Did
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  Speaker 1: he of course he killed Austin's mother, we know that.
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  Speaker 1: But did he give the confession in order to get
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  Speaker 1: back to the local jail to hook back up with
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  Speaker 1: Vicky White? What do you think about that? Well? I
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  Speaker 1: know that that theory is out there. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: know that he confessed to the homicide of Connie Ridgeway
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  Speaker 1: and he was facing charges for that. Uh some other
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  Speaker 1: things about how calculating Vicky White was in this plan.
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  Speaker 1: We also know now that prior to the escape that
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  Speaker 1: she was shopping for clothes, uh, men's clothes and a
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  Speaker 1: local clothing store. She also shopped in at an adult store.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know the the thing about the abandoned car,
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  Speaker 1: You know, the thing that questioned me if they were
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  Speaker 1: going to abandon it for a plan B, why would
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  Speaker 1: they rift driving it for two hours? I guess assuming
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  Speaker 1: we might get a identification on the car sooner. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like they would have dished it a little closer.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, there's still a lot of questions to be
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  Speaker 1: answered concerning uh, you know, the car and where it
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  Speaker 1: was abandoned and where how they left that area. We're
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  Speaker 1: looking at every possible scenario to try to determine that
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  Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace Sheriff. You said that she
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  Speaker 1: had been shopping from men's clothing ahead of the bust, right, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: Now I think that's where that Rumors circulating that they
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  Speaker 1: stopped at some adult I guess the sex story shop.
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  Speaker 1: But that was before she sprung him, right, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: That was then the bay's leading up through the escape. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of backgroundwork. What about where she
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  Speaker 1: parted the getaway car Sheriff, was it in a spot
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  Speaker 1: in that shopping center where video would not catch it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was a very obvious spot. It was
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  Speaker 1: right on the out of one of the busiest streetcare
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  Speaker 1: in Florence we cover there was that there are several
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  Speaker 1: other cars parked there that are for sale, older car
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  Speaker 1: and so it's sort of blended in because it's a
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  Speaker 1: low profile car as far as the light bar on
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  Speaker 1: it and so forth. It's a forward carus uh, sin's
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  Speaker 1: a little lower and uh, you know, it didn't just
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  Speaker 1: stand out, uh you know at someone. It wasn't. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like a big suv or something. But what I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting at, Sheriff is if you could see it on video,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't you see him? I mean, couldn't you see them
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  Speaker 1: getting into the car? No? Man there. There was no
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  Speaker 1: video footage in the shop in the area that that
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  Speaker 1: depicted that. But there again, that's another reason I think
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  Speaker 1: she chose this location because we did have a witness
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  Speaker 1: who saw the getaway car there the night before. I
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  Speaker 1: actually looked at it. He was looking at the car
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  Speaker 1: that were for sale there, and he looked at that
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  Speaker 1: specific car and went around the front of the number
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  Speaker 1: to call about it, and there was no for sale sign,
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  Speaker 1: no phone number on it. He thought that was odd
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  Speaker 1: being it was parked there among other cars for sale,
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  Speaker 1: and Sheriff, it didn't already have the gre paint on
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  Speaker 1: it at that time, did it? Nod did not have
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  Speaker 1: the pain on it? Gotcha? Okay, you know, I want
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  Speaker 1: to one more thing, Sheriff before I go to Austin
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  Speaker 1: and Xavier wary Sheriff, what about his medication? Is it
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  Speaker 1: medication that he has to have refilled? He is on
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  Speaker 1: medication and uh, you know, there's no medication taken with
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  Speaker 1: them to our knowledge. I don't know. I'm not that
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  Speaker 1: familiar with his specific situation concerning his his uh medical needs,
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  Speaker 1: but I do know that I've been told that he
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  Speaker 1: can get pretty violent if he's not on his mids.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if it's anything that he's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to get, like is he diabetic? Does he have a
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  Speaker 1: heart problem? Is there something he has to take they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to stop and get somehow or is she
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  Speaker 1: that get that pre ordered as well? I want to
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  Speaker 1: go now to Austin Williams. This is Connie Ridgeway's son,
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  Speaker 1: Connie was murdered ten twenty three, fifteen October twenty third,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Austin. When you heard that this guy, Casey
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  Speaker 1: White had been sprung from jail, first of all, tell
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  Speaker 1: me about it. What happened. I was completely shocked, and
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  Speaker 1: the District Trainey's office was good enough to call myself
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  Speaker 1: and my brother before the news broke. So I was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of in a state of shock, not having
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  Speaker 1: any details, and now the details came out to me,
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  Speaker 1: it simply was getting worse and worse. How's your family
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  Speaker 1: holding up. We're holding up the best we can. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just a stressful time, and we got a
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  Speaker 1: birthdays going on and Mother's Day weekend, and it's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of on top of all that, she's really kind
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  Speaker 1: of a trying time. Also. Do you remember when you
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  Speaker 1: learned your mother had been killed? Yeah? I remember it
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday. My brother had called me and said that
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  Speaker 1: she was counting her apartment with blood on her. At
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  Speaker 1: that point, I mean, I knew it was really bad,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't tell me that she'd been murdered because
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  Speaker 1: I was being dropping from Atlanta, so they wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: the best shape possible. But I knew something. He was
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  Speaker 1: really bad. They told you what that she was in
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  Speaker 1: her apartment and had blood on her. My brother called
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  Speaker 1: me and said that she was found in her apartment
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  Speaker 1: with blood on her. Of course that doesn't sound right, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I was really worried, you know, Austin. I still
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  Speaker 1: remember when I learned my fiance been murdered. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like a horrible blur. But then I also remember, by
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  Speaker 1: this time, I was in New York working at Court TV,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a I'd come off the air, sat
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  Speaker 1: down at my desk, started working, started reading email, and someone,
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  Speaker 1: a viewer, had sent me an email that Keith Murderer
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  Speaker 1: had been paroled. I had no idea. Nobody told me
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time he was out. I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: how long it had been out. And I will still
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  Speaker 1: remember that coming over me. It's like a physical sensation.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine how you felt when the DA's
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  Speaker 1: office called, And God bless them for calling and letting
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  Speaker 1: you know before the whole world knew about it. Xavier
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  Speaker 1: Weary joining me from Waay TV. Xavier, thanks for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. Tell me the very latest. Yeah, So, I mean, really,
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  Speaker 1: after speaking with Sheriff Singleton. We're still just trying to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that we push out the facts right, and
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  Speaker 1: the facts that we really don't know where they are. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we know that the car was last located in Williamson County, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: a week after they actually ditched the vehicle. So I
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  Speaker 1: spoke with someone from the US Marshal Services and they
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  Speaker 1: told me that, you know, although it is a week later,
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  Speaker 1: they are glad that they now have a sense of
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  Speaker 1: direction as to where they are. But again, they could
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  Speaker 1: really be going anywhere at this moment in time. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton joining me, the elected sheriff in Lauderdale County, Sheriff,
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  Speaker 1: how far is it from where their escape vehicle, the
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  Speaker 1: four Taurus Orange four Taurus was abandoned to a major
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  Speaker 1: interstate It was within about three miles of last sixty five,
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  Speaker 1: just south of Nashville, Franklin, Tennessee. Oh my goodness, just
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  Speaker 1: south of Nashville or Franklin about Okay, Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: I know what happened, Nancy Champion. But the interesting thing is,
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  Speaker 1: for the last nine months I've been dropping through but
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  Speaker 1: as THEO for a collect I was working on to
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  Speaker 1: a spring Hills. I'm very familiar with that kind of
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  Speaker 1: like with that route. It's a very rural area, but
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  Speaker 1: it is close to the interstate spring Hill. So what
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  Speaker 1: interstate was it? Sheriff sixty five and that's just three
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  Speaker 1: miles south of Nashville and Franklin. It was three three
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  Speaker 1: miles east of sixty five. It's about twenty miles south
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  Speaker 1: of Nashville. Where will I sixty five take you, Sheriff?
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  Speaker 1: If you follow it, where will it go? I sixty
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  Speaker 1: five originates in Mobile, Alabama on the southern end, and
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  Speaker 1: it goes into Chicago. Okay, I'm learning a lot right now.
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  Speaker 1: So here we go I sixty five, three miles from
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  Speaker 1: I sixty five or where they dumped that car? He says.
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  Speaker 1: The sheriff tells us it looks like it had a
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  Speaker 1: flat and trying to work the car over and see
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  Speaker 1: if there was any other problem. It was not spray
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  Speaker 1: painted green before it was left. They did that, So
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  Speaker 1: what is their thinking? Where will they go to you?
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Chicone joining me twenty seven years FBI agent. If
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  Speaker 1: they only had three miles to walk, and this is
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  Speaker 1: in a rural area, they could stay under the cover
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  Speaker 1: of trees, you gotta get I would get knines out
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  Speaker 1: there to follow their sense to see which way they
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  Speaker 1: were going, but obviously toward that interstate eight sixty five.
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  Speaker 1: Once they get sixty five, anybody could have picked him up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're right there at Nashville and Franklin. People
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  Speaker 1: from all over the world are going to Nashville, and
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  Speaker 1: if they got a ride from a trucker or anybody,
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  Speaker 1: they could be god knows where by now, Bobby Chicon
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  Speaker 1: absolutely hundreds of not thousands of miles away from that area,
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  Speaker 1: and they could be conceivably, you know, And my theory
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  Speaker 1: is heading off because, um, no, they can't get Canada,
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  Speaker 1: because I said that at the beginning of the programming.
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  Speaker 1: You're piggyback in on me. No, And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: think that I believe the Canada will not extradite murder
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  Speaker 1: in capital murder cases, so they will not extradite exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's facing the death penalty, and I've read reports, but
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  Speaker 1: he is possibly facing the death penalty, so he could
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  Speaker 1: get refuge in Canada, who will not extradite unless the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: US promises not to prosecute on a capital offense. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if they thought it out that much.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They certainly had enough time to think about that. My
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: theory has been all along n Mexico, the head is
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Canada because of that, because of the non extradition in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: capital murdercases. And to you, James shell Nutt, I mean,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it just makes common sense. I think Bobby Chacona is
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: absolutely correct. By the way, Jackie, pull me up a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: US map if you don't mind, shell Nutt. It makes
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: common sense. Because if they were going north and they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: were already how far did you say, Xavier Wary, how
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: far north Florence were they? Was it two hours? Yes?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It is about two hours? Or was it three? Was
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it two or three hours north? Sheriff, it's about two hours.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The vehicle was found due east of Springhill, as the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: gentleman said, Springhill, Tennessee. So yeah, it's about two hours
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: from from Florence, Alabama to that location. Yeah, okay, I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: think Jacona is right, James shell Nutt, because why would
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they go two hours north and then turn around and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: go back right into the territory that's hot on their trail? No,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: they're going north, but thank this through with me, chelnut
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: If this takes them towards Chicago, what would their route be,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: how would they intersect with a major northern thoroughfare to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: get them up to Canada, because I think that's where
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they're headed. Yeah, I don't doubt that at all. I mean,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I think one thing is when you got interstates, you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: got truck drivers, and so it would not be in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: common for them to make their way to a truck stop.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: They could have walked, they could have taken an uber,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they could have taken a lift to a truck stop.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: They could have stolen a car and driven it to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a truck stop and then caught arrival with one of
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: these long over the road truckers. That would be a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: great way for them to get out of the area
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: undetected in a vehicle that no one knew that they
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: were riding. You totally, but you know what, Sheriff Rick Singleton,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: there has been no reports of another stole a vehicle,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: none that we've been ready aware of them that you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: can connect back to. Then then so Xavier Weary joining
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: me WAYTV. Are there other agencies helping Lauderdale County? Yes, again,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I know that the US Marshal Services they're definitely helping out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And again after speaking with them, they just want to
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: put as many eyes in the area as possible, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they're surveiling the area as we know it right now
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in the area of Tennessee. So Gethy's just trying to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: stay on top of it. I know our team is
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: worked diligently and got above and beyond it. Make sure
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that we stay on top of this story and just
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: provide the facts as we receive them. Sheriff Singleton hearing
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: what Xavier whare he just said, I'm wondering what the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: closest truck stop would have been, or if tracking dogs
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: were pulled in where the car was abandoned to see
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: which way they went. You know, the terrain, Sheriff would
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: have made sense for them to follow the road, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: staying in the woods all the way till they could
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: get to I sixty five, well, it appears they were
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: trying to stay to the back roads. You know, again,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: unless they deliberately get this car um the you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: as far as the interstate, it is close by. I've
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: traveled that route frequently. I have a daughter. It was
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: just north of Nashville, and I don't recall any major
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: cruck stops along that area of sixty five until you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: get on north of Nashville. But I could be grown
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: question to you, Sheriff, does sixty five intersect with seven
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: sixty five? Does that intersect with seventy five at any
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: point to go north up towards you know, for instance,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: New York, try to get to that Canadian border. Well that, yes,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it connects with Interstate that goes into Detroit, up in Kentucky.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think Louisville, Well, there's a there's a I don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: know recall the interstate number, but it does go over
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati and then on up to Detroit, sixty five
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to sixty nine, sixty nine to seventy five in Michigan,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and that intersects in Michigan. Sixty nine takes you to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: seventy five of the Canada. There you go, So I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: sixty five to I sixty nine in Detroit. That's just
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what Singleton was just saying. And in Detroit they could
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: catch I seventy five all the way straight up to Canada.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about her changing her appearance?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Sheriff and hey to the rest of the panel again,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: jump in. We need all the brain we need a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: brain trust on this. Sheriff, what do you think about
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: her changing her appearance, Well, I think it'd probably be
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: obvious that she probably would, especially with all the media
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: coverage that this case has gotten nation wide. You know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: their photographs out there everywhere. I've even seen it on
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: billboards on the interstates, So you know, I think obviously
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: she would. Both of them would probably try to champ
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: your appearance. The one thing he can't change is a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the six foot nine that you stot you know question
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and sheriff you stated that they had been She had
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: been shopping for men's clothes and I guess sex toys
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: before she sprang him. What else did she shot for?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Did she shot for hair dye or anything else? Did
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: she use her credit card? Not aware of I would
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: do know she was at the adult bookstore and a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: local shopping center clothing store. She did use her credit card,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: her personal credit card at the motel, So assuming that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: since they use other visits were prior to the escape,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he'd probably used her personal credit card. I haven't been
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: given that information. How much here I mean, think about it,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: jump in Bobby Chicone. If she used her credit card
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: for the hotel, did she use it for hair dye?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Did she use it for anything else we could use
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to trace them. Yeah, I mean, look, as as much
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: as she's playing this out, I would think that she
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is trying to use so that you would think that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: she would try to use cash as much as possible.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: She sold her house recently, she sold other belongings. She
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: kind of liquidated herself these last few week. So I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: would guess and h you know that creates a lot
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of cash, and I will you know it was me,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and I was planning this thing as meticulous as she did,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I would I would have used a lot of cash. Guys,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: we were talking about the former I call her a warden.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I guess she could be called a jailer. What would
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be her correct term? Sherif of Singleton she was assistant
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: director of corrections. And uh, you know the the issue
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of the cash there again. You know, we do know
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: she had a considerable about of cash owner. But so
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: think about it. That cash, she's not doing her any
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: good in her pocket. She's gonna have to spend it somewhere,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: which means that they're gonna be out and about and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: hopefully somebody was spotting, you know, question to Shellna Chicane,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: where anybody on the panel you know that she got
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: some fake IDs. You know she did. This woman is smart,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: she preplanned everything. How would she have gone about getting
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a fake ID? And can that be traced? Okay, everybody
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: jump in at a is easy. Every eighteen year old
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: at the beaches got one. That's not a problem at all.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it'd be very easy
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for her to possibly conceal her identity. I think the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: sheriff at the nail on the head, you know, the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: key factor, and what's going to be most recognizable is
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: him and you know his height, his eyes, He's going
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: to stick out like a sore thome. Nancy. Yeah, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think I think you really. Also, you've said something which
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I think is significant. This man, it is supposed to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: be on medication, and from what I've read, without medications,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he can be violent, which we know he's violent to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: begin with, and sometimes do drugs. He's known to do
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: myth and that would make him even being more violent, crazy,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: acting out, And she herself is at risk when it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: comes to being with him, and I don't know that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: she ever took them into consideration, the fact that he
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: could turn on her very easily. Nancy. Another thing too,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: is that they could easily go to someone's home, an
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: elderly person's home, or someone's home who may not be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: familiar with the story because they're not in the area,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and that person would be in grave danger. And that's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: what scares me is not just the victims in the past,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: but the possible future victims who may unwittingly help them
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and become murder victims themselves. Well speaking, I want you
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to take a listen to our cut thirty three our
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Friends at When nineteen. At the time of the death
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of thirty one year old Christy Lynn Shelton in two
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, police say that Casey White was there
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at the home in Lexington, but after an investigation, he
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was ruled out as a suspect, but her family said
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they never believed that story, asking questions about exactly what
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Casey was doing at the time that Casey Shelton was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: shot and Shelton were dating at the time. Her family
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: has taken to social media to push for a reinvestigation
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: into this case, and a video sent to News nineteen,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the daughter of Christy Shelton says that when Casey White
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: escaped with the assistance of prison guard Vicky White, it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: opened up a range of uncontrollable emotions for her family
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: who was seeking justice for their mother. So Casey Watt
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was with my mom the knight that she committed suicide,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that one was really ever investigated. I don't even know
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: if they should commit her questioning time stories with Nancy Grace.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe this video will fall in the right hands of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: someone that can actually make a difference or look into
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it more, maybe investigate. I'm not really sure you're hearing
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the voice of Summer Mitchell. Her mom died of suicide
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: while in the home with this guy, the six foot
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: nine killer Casey White. Now is it correct Xavier Wery
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: joining us to be AAYTV that the victim in that case,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Christylan Shelton, reportedly committed suicide with a sawed off shotgun
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: from the reports good I have read, Yes, that is correct.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that kind of hard to do? Sheriff Singleton,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: shoot yourself. I mean, I've had plenty of cases with
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: shot off shotguns, but they're still a shotgun, and even
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: when you saw them off, they're uh. The ones I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: have were at least fourteen maybe fourteen fifteen inches long
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: at best, because you've got the whole stock. You've got
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: all that that's still part of the gun to make
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it work. I mean, have you ever seen a sawed
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: off lesson say fourteen inches? Sheriff, Well, no, I mean
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you know a sawed off shotgun is you know you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: common way come across those with criminals. The thing has
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: struck me strange about that, the case of that. You know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: most women don't you are gone of any time to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: commit suicide. So you know, it's just sort of a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: strange case. It's a very strange case. It stinks, all right, Chicone,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: do you agree with me? Think about suicide just generally speaking, statistically,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a female of her age and where she is socioeconomically,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: everything taken into account, she would never have shot herself
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: as a mode of suicide. In the rare occasion that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: does happen. Women don't usually do that. They jump out
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a window, they may take an overdose, they may turn
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: on a gas oven or turn on carbon monoxide in
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: their car, but they don't shoot themselves much less in
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the chest or the face. But think about this, Chicon,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as a sheriff just said, who do you know a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: civilian that has a sawt off shotgun? Now that he
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: said that he's right. Every case I ever had with
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a thought off a criminal had it. She was no criminal.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And think of it logistically, turning a shotgun toward you
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and shooting yourself. My point is he killed her. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's very unlikely that she should kill us up
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: as a sheriff said, it's very and you just said
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it's very rare that women use a gun to the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: suicide and the only real and you're right. The fourteen
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: inches I believe is the shortest you can saw off
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a shotgun before getting into the mechanisms of the weapon.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And even even in fourteen inches, you don't saw off
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a shotgun barrel other than to just conceal it when
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you commit a crime, because it's very dangerous when you're
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: shore in the barrel that much, it's a very dangerous.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It's even more dangerous than it is with the barrel intact.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So really there's no reason to saw off a shotgun
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: unless you want to conceal it to commit a crime. So,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and it's a very very difficult weapon to kill yourself with.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Even when people kill themselves with guns, it's usually a handgun,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a long barrel weapon. Even if they saw it off
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: like that. It makes it even more unusual, and anything
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that happens around this guy, given his history and his lifestyle,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: comes into questions. If he's in the house and someone
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: ends up dead, I'm going to look right at him,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you know. To Sheriffric Singleton joining me the elected sheriff
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: theory in Lauderdale County again, especially to you and Austin,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for you guys being with us, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Sheriff Singleton, what else I can
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: learn from that car that was abandoned. Obviously they tried
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to say spray painted green. That tells me they wanted
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to stay in that car. That tells me they did
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: not have a plan for a second vehicle. Tell me
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: about you said and your press release in your conference
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that they left it in a very obvious spot. Do
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you believe that was by plan? I don't. I don't.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: What's your thinking, Sheriff, I don't perfectly think it was planned.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: The reason it attracted attention so soon. This car was
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: reported spotted at one fifty p hum on Friday, April
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, the same morning that they escape. They left
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the Florien area by approximately ten o'clock, so that's three
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: hours and fifty minutes. It's a two hour drive. Obviously,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: they somewhere along the route they stopped and took the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: time to try to paint the car. I don't really
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: think it was because it was part writing an intersection
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and what attracted the attention so soon was homeowner right
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: up the road was out walking and saw the vehicle
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and she was concerned to school bus would not be
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: able to make the turn because it was abandoned at
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: an intersection, and so she immediately called. This was just
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: shortly before school was to let out, so she immediately
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: called the sheriff office. They sent up, dispatched the deputy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: They had the car code, and it was told in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: two thirty seven. So you know, I don't anythink that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: was in their plan personally, Again, I can't prove that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I wish I could. I wish we had more fact
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: where we knew exactly why they abandoned the car. But
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: my gut's telling me that it that it threw them
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a curve, that they got caught without transportation and put
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: some some kind of desperate means to confine transportation from there.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: All right, now you're telling me they abandoned the car.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: How many hours after they left the shopping center. The
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: patrol car was spotted on video at nine forty nine
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: at an intersection just two blocks from where the car
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: was abandoned and where they switched vehicles. So you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: by the time they got it part got into the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: other vehicle. They were leaving the Farnes area prosably ten
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: o'clock that morning. The car was found at one fifty,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: which is three hours and fifty minutes. Wow, that was
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: not their plan. I agree with you guys, if you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: have information or think you have information. Eight hundred three
• 35:58
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• 36:03
  Speaker 1: signing up Goodbye Friend,