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SPECIAL WEEKEND CRIME STORIES UPDATE: Casey White, More Murder Charges, After Jailhouse Lovers Hole up in Hotel With Take Out, Sex Toys · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: It made every headline in nearly every paper online and
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Speaker 1: hard copy in this country. A well trusted jailer, Vicky White,
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Speaker 1: arranges the bust out of her lover, accused killer, Casey White,
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Speaker 1: and the two go on the run. It all ended
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Speaker 1: in the death of Vicky White in the last hours. Bobshell,
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace and this is Crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious
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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. Casey White has been charged with felony
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Speaker 1: murder in connection with the death of his lover, prison
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Speaker 1: guard Vicky White, after the pair spends eleven days on
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Speaker 1: the run after their Alabama prison break before police chase
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Speaker 1: them down, ending with a bullet in Vicky's head. Now
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Speaker 1: he the jailhouse lover, thirty eight year old Casey White
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Speaker 1: charged with felony murderer. Now does that mean he pull
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Speaker 1: the trigger? Absolutely not, So how's he charged with murder?
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Speaker 1: This is a text book a classic felony murder charge.
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Speaker 1: For instance, let's just say Jackie and I decided to
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Speaker 1: rob a bank. We agree up front, nobody's going to
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Speaker 1: get hurt. Then Jackie gets a wild hair and shoots
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Speaker 1: the bank teller dead. I'm standing there. What we head
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Speaker 1: out high, tell it out of there. But guess what,
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Speaker 1: I'm in it just as deep as she is. I'm
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Speaker 1: charged with murder. Two. We both catch murder charges, but
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Speaker 1: from me, it's felony murder. Why felony murder? Very simply put,
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Speaker 1: it's when a death occurs during the commission of a felony,
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Speaker 1: that felony bank robbery and a death occurs. That's the
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Speaker 1: text book example a felony murder. In this case, the
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Speaker 1: accused killer, thirty eight year old Casey White, is in
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Speaker 1: the commission of a felony. He escaped from prison, making
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Speaker 1: himself a felony fugitive. That's a crime. And during that
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Speaker 1: felony crime a death occurred. Vicky White is killed. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends of w EVV Fox forty four.
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Speaker 1: The Alabama fugitive who, of course, was discovered and arrested
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Speaker 1: in Evansville, now facing a new murder charge. Casey White
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Speaker 1: was previously in jail on a murder charge stemming from
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Speaker 1: an incident back in twenty fifteen. He's now been charged
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Speaker 1: with the murder of Vicky White. That correction officer who
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Speaker 1: left the prison with him. The indictment says that because
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Speaker 1: Casey White was in the process of committing first degree escape,
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Speaker 1: he ultimately caused Vicky White's death. Angle. You are hearing
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Speaker 1: the last utterances of Vicky White on the run with
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Speaker 1: our jailhouse lover six foot nine. Uh. At the least
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Speaker 1: what happened after that is very well documented. Take a
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Speaker 1: list an hour cut thirty six our friends w EVV
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Speaker 1: Fox forty four. We can confirm that both Casey and
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Speaker 1: Vicky UM. One is in custody and one is in
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Speaker 1: the hospital. The female is actually in the hospital. UM.
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Speaker 1: We know that they are driving down here. Police pursue
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Speaker 1: about seventy miles per hour. You can see that car
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Speaker 1: flipped over Um in the ditch right now. We have
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Speaker 1: multiple agencies on scene, but apparently this was going for
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Speaker 1: a while. But we do know that he is in custody.
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Speaker 1: Let's get out and run. The chilling nine one one
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Speaker 1: audio reveals on the run prison guard Vicky White's last
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Speaker 1: words to her escape lover Casey White. Joining me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of what we know
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Speaker 1: right now. James Sheldona, twenty seven years metro major case
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Speaker 1: at Sheldon Law Firm. Karen Start New York psychologist joining us.
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Speaker 1: Karen Start dot Com. Lenny DePaul, former Chief Inspector Commander
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Speaker 1: US Marshall Fugitive Task Force, doctor Tim Gallagher, medical Examiner,
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Speaker 1: State of Florida and host of the International Forensic Medicine
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Speaker 1: Death Investigation Conference. Brittany Harry joining us The Reporter, anchor
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Speaker 1: Way thirty one, That's Hunstville, and special guest joining US.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton, the Lauderdale County elected sheriff. Sheriff, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. I know that you're going
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Speaker 1: through a lot right now, from losing a trusted jailhouse
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Speaker 1: employee for many, many years, somebody that you respected, a
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Speaker 1: co worker, a friend, the betrayal of that, and now
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Speaker 1: her death. It's it's been an emotional roller coaster, you know.
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Speaker 1: I just don't really know how to explain it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, when we first got word that that they
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Speaker 1: had left, our initial feeling was that he had somehow,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, overpowered her and taken her against her will.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't too many hours into the investigation when
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Speaker 1: we realized that she had played a part in it.
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Speaker 1: We were still grasping at straws, hoping that maybe someone
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Speaker 1: from outside on his behalf had threatened her, threatened her family,
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Speaker 1: coerced her into helping him escape. But within a matter
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Speaker 1: of a few days it became obvious that that she
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Speaker 1: was very much involved in this plan, very much involved
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Speaker 1: in the plan, if not even the mastermind of the plan. Guys,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut forty our friends at
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Speaker 1: w vt M thirteen. Vicky White has died tonight. Investigators
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Speaker 1: say she shot herself following a core chase with law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: It all came to an end today in Evansville, Indiana.
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Speaker 1: That's about a two hundred and twenty mile journey from
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Speaker 1: Lauderdale County. This is the press conference we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about all week that we wanted to call. After days
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Speaker 1: of searching across the country, Ky White and Vicky White
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Speaker 1: are in custody. The duo was hunted down in Indiana.
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Speaker 1: US Marshals received a tip about a car this catalanc
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Speaker 1: believed to be driven by Casey and Vicky and Evansville.
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Speaker 1: That led to a chase. The Marshall's Task Force officers
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Speaker 1: intercepted them, actually collided with them to try to end
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Speaker 1: the suit. After the crash, According to law enforcements. Vicky
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Speaker 1: shot herself and later died in the hospital. Casey peacefully surrendered.
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Speaker 1: We got a dangerous man off the street today. He
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Speaker 1: is never going to see the light of day again.
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Speaker 1: Did she shoot herself? That remains to be seen. And
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Speaker 1: also take a listen now to our cut thirty eight
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Speaker 1: we vv Fox. We're standing right next to the ditch
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Speaker 1: where this all went down, and you can actually still
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Speaker 1: see a part of that car left behind, perhaps a
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Speaker 1: headlight or maybe a tail light still left right there.
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Speaker 1: And we're learning it really didn't take long for the
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Speaker 1: car to end up flipped on its side in the ditch.
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Speaker 1: The pursuit really only lasting about two blocks from Saint
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Speaker 1: George Road to Birch Drive here. But what's most surprising
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Speaker 1: to law enforcement is the fact the fugitives we're still
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Speaker 1: in the Evansville area nearly a week after they were
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Speaker 1: caught on camera at a local car wash following a
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Speaker 1: brief police pursuit around four thirty Monday, Alabama convict Casey
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Speaker 1: White and corrections officer Vicky White crashing in a ditch
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Speaker 1: off US forty one in Evansville, straight out to Brittany
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Speaker 1: Harry joining us from WAA y thirty one. You can
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Speaker 1: find her on Facebook. Brittany, Harry needs Brittany, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. Explain how the whole thing unfolded.
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Speaker 1: And you know, everybody keeps saying, we knew how it
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Speaker 1: was going to end, we knew how it was gonna end.
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Speaker 1: I felt all along that there was a very high
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Speaker 1: percentage if I was a betting person, that somehow Vicky
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Speaker 1: White would end up dead. And you hear her last words,
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Speaker 1: let's get out run, And you hear her also saying,
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Speaker 1: I knew we shouldn't have left the hotel. We should
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Speaker 1: never have left the hotel. Tell me how the whole
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Speaker 1: capture played out. What we know according to the Sheriff,
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Speaker 1: as he mentioned in a press conference yesterday, was Vicky
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Speaker 1: and Casey were seen leaving that Motel forty one along
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Speaker 1: Highway forty one here in Ovansville, Indiana, and not long
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Speaker 1: after they left the park lot, we know that a
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Speaker 1: pursuit ensued and not long after that ended with a crash.
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Speaker 1: But Sheriff Day Wedding here in Vanderberg County, Indiana, said
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Speaker 1: US Marshalls actually rammed the vehicle that Cadillacs that they
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Speaker 1: were into a ditch, and that's really how that crash happened,
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Speaker 1: in how all of this ended. And Sheriff Wedding said
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Speaker 1: that had that not happened, this might have had a
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Speaker 1: different ending because he says that Casey told authorities that
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Speaker 1: he planned to have a shootout with law enforcement. So
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Wedding obviously said that he's very, very grateful that
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Speaker 1: that is not what happened. Here Sheriff Rick Singleton joining us,
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Speaker 1: the elected Lardale County Sheriff sheriff. How did they get
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Speaker 1: the Caddy Mynor family as they purchased it up, We
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Speaker 1: found the first vehicle that we were able to identify,
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Speaker 1: the Ford Edge abandoned in Tennessee actually a week after
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Speaker 1: they left, and it was actually abandoned the day they left.
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Speaker 1: We know that they purchased a black pickup truck in
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Speaker 1: that area. That's the pickup truck that was found at
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Speaker 1: the car wash up in Indiana. The local police ran
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Speaker 1: that vehicle. It didn't come back to thole them because
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Speaker 1: it wasn't total them. They purchased him, they abandoned it
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Speaker 1: and apparently got the Cadillac. I'm assuming they probably purchased
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Speaker 1: it too. They had the cash for them. Were they
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Speaker 1: down to about twenty nine grand? That's my understanding. That
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Speaker 1: was the profimal amount that was recovered. So they ran
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Speaker 1: through seventy thousand dollars, Is that right, Sheriff. You know
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Speaker 1: she had already purchased one vehicle here, she had made
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Speaker 1: several other purchases, clothes for him, you know, the best
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So they had a considerable sum of money.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that they managed to pull off
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Speaker 1: so many car purchases. Staying in a hotel, they had
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Speaker 1: to eat. How were they getting that? Were they going out?
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Speaker 1: Were they ordering in? How did they register into the
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Speaker 1: hotel without driver's licenses or without anyone identifying them? We understand,
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Speaker 1: and they may have paid a guy to register at
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Speaker 1: the hotel, But the buying of the multiple cars, the vehicles,
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Speaker 1: the hotel, the food, the car wash. Take a list
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Speaker 1: an hour cut thirty seven our friends at way. Just today,
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Speaker 1: investigators released this photo of a two thousand and six
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Speaker 1: Ford F one fifty pickup truck in Evansville that authorities
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Speaker 1: say the couple abandoned at a car wash around May third.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't until Sunday that authorities got the tip. Turns
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Speaker 1: out the two were still in the area for days.
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Speaker 1: Law enforcement had urged the public to be on the lookout,
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Speaker 1: hoping Casey White's six foot nine, three hundred forty pounds
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Speaker 1: size would make him easy to spot. Sheriff Singleton is
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Speaker 1: anxious to have him back in custody in North Alabama
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Speaker 1: to face charges of capital murder from the twenty fifteen
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Speaker 1: stabbing of Connie Ridgeway. We've already made a ranger for
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Speaker 1: the Department of correct Group. He will be brought here
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Speaker 1: for a rangement. If it's two o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The judge was agreed to come out
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Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just
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Speaker 1: joining us. Gaelhouse lover Casey White charged with the murderer
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Speaker 1: and the shooting death of his prison guard lover Vicki White.
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Speaker 1: But how did the whole thing unfold? Lenny DePaul, former
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Speaker 1: Chief Inspector commanded US Marshall Fugitive Task Force. I'm very
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Speaker 1: surprised they're still in the same area. And how did
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Speaker 1: they pull off buying so many vehicles, staying in hotels,
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Speaker 1: getting food? How'd they do it? I mean, standing on
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Speaker 1: the run this guy certainly wasn't gonna hide in plain
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Speaker 1: sight at seven foot, three hundred pounds. But the US
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Speaker 1: Marshall serves the Great Lakes and also the Gulf Coast
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Speaker 1: Regional Fugitive task Forces, and of course the Sheriff's department.
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Speaker 1: They did an outstanding job, Nancy. And here's what they did.
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Speaker 1: They put you know, they utilized the intel that they
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Speaker 1: were gathering. They put everything out. Social media was fired up.
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Speaker 1: You guys did a great job plastering their photos. The
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Speaker 1: public remained vigilant, and sure enough, the fellow working in
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Speaker 1: the car wash did his homework ransom video and identified
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Speaker 1: this guy. So they were out there. They had a plan.
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Speaker 1: Apparently there was a flying ointment with vehicles possibly breaking
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Speaker 1: down and whatnot, but it was only a matter of time.
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Speaker 1: And thankfully, as the sheriff said, I mean, when they
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Speaker 1: pitted that car and the weapons that were found in
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Speaker 1: that vehicle and the ammunition, it could have been a
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Speaker 1: lot hell a lot worse than what it was. How
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Speaker 1: did they pull it off for this long even staying
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Speaker 1: fairly close to home. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: forty nine from the VanderBurg County Sheriff's Office. We got
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Speaker 1: a photo. They had about forty nine thousand dollars left over.
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Speaker 1: How did they get the fei in the cap? They
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Speaker 1: purchased the F one fifty and drove it here and
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Speaker 1: where they got the Cadillac. I'm not sure idea what
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Speaker 1: they were doing here for? Well, I think he said
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Speaker 1: that he was just trying to find a place to
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Speaker 1: hide out lay Low and they thought, you know, they'd
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Speaker 1: driven long enough. Did they wanted to stop for a while,
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Speaker 1: get the berry straight, and then figure out their next
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Speaker 1: place to travel. We don't believe they have any relatives, friends,
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Speaker 1: or acquaintances in Evazel, Benver County. Well, I can tell
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Speaker 1: you what they wanted to do, Brittany Harry. They wanted
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Speaker 1: to hold up in that hotel and use all those
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Speaker 1: sex toys that she bought before they took off and
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Speaker 1: went on the run. Now, how did they manage to
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Speaker 1: get into the hotel? I mean, when I write a
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Speaker 1: check at the grocery store, I have to show a
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Speaker 1: driver's license, credit cards, you name it, Okay, So how
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Speaker 1: did these two on the run, their faces plastered on
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Speaker 1: every TV screen in the country, How in the world
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Speaker 1: did they manage to hold up in that hotel and
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Speaker 1: nobody noticed. How did they sign in? Yeah, the short
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Speaker 1: answer is with the home man. Sheriff Dave Wedding said
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Speaker 1: yesterday he told me that they had an alias and
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Speaker 1: that I guess that they paid a homeless man to
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Speaker 1: essentially help them get this fourteen day stay at this hotel.
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Speaker 1: And we've done and we've seen interviews that have been
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Speaker 1: all over with the owner of the hotel and he
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Speaker 1: apparently had no idea that the two were wanted, and
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Speaker 1: neither did the homeless guy. So I also know that
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Speaker 1: that homeless man he won't be facing any charges here
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Speaker 1: in Indiana or anything like that. You know, Sheriff had
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Speaker 1: about thirty thousand dollars left, and I'm guessing the way
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Speaker 1: they bought the cars. First they bought the getaway car,
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Speaker 1: the orange car. Then they got an F one fifty
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Speaker 1: black truck, and then they ended up in the Cadillac
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Speaker 1: again when you done on the horse, look at the
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Speaker 1: trick record. She got the first car in cash with
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Speaker 1: a fake ID, using an alias. I bet that's what
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Speaker 1: she did the other times. What do you know, Sheriff, Well,
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Speaker 1: you remember the car she bought first at forty age
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Speaker 1: was the day they escape. Uh, they also bought the truck,
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Speaker 1: you know, that same day, So no information they had
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Speaker 1: been put out there at that time about their descriptions. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, at least they hadn't gotten the koind of
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Speaker 1: attention that that you know they got in the day's following. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there was an app put out to the National Crime
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Speaker 1: Information Systems, but to law enforcement, but as far as
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Speaker 1: the general public if most of that information were just
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Speaker 1: localized at that time, So you know, every who they
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Speaker 1: bought the truck from probably would have had no idea
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Speaker 1: they were wanted. So are you saying they bought the
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Speaker 1: escape car, the orange escape car, and the truck on
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Speaker 1: the same day. No, they left here in the orange car.
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Speaker 1: It broke down or whatever happened to it. It was
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Speaker 1: abandoned in Befeza. That's where they bought the truck same day, gotcha, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the same day that they left. Right and again even
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Speaker 1: though their faces weren't out there yet, she probably used
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Speaker 1: a fake name and Elias, do you know what name
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Speaker 1: she bought the orange getaway car under. It was a
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Speaker 1: Maxwell name, Marie Maxwell Maxwell. Betchy. She did the same
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Speaker 1: thing because you know, James shell Nutt twenty seven years
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Speaker 1: Matro major case and now lawyer at shell Nutt Law Firm.
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Speaker 1: She's smart, She's really smart. I don't know how how.
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Speaker 1: I think he's got a low waddage. But even though
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Speaker 1: she may be smart and had planned this whole thing out,
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Speaker 1: I guarantee that she did the same thing over and over.
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Speaker 1: You know, she devised the very best plan and did
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Speaker 1: it over and over. Were you surprise that she was
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Speaker 1: able to get her mits on three separate cars while
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Speaker 1: on the run. Well, you know, I thought about that,
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Speaker 1: and that's something that caught my tissue as it did yours.
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Speaker 1: But she knows when you think about you buy a
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Speaker 1: used car, you know, it's pretty straightforward. You know what
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Speaker 1: you're doing is you're going up and looking at these cars.
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Speaker 1: It could be off craicks List, it could be off
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Speaker 1: market place. You go up and tell people your name,
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Speaker 1: they write to a they will sell, and you hand
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Speaker 1: them cash and very few questions are asked. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know if she bought this from a dealership or not,
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Speaker 1: but if she had a fake ID, they likely would
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Speaker 1: not have rand that and once cash at the table,
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Speaker 1: they could have easily goat it. Here's the other thing
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Speaker 1: is that when they buy those used cars, those tags
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Speaker 1: are not immediately transferred, so for days, if not a
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Speaker 1: week or two, they could have ridden around in that
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Speaker 1: vehicle and it showed the previous owner's name, not stolen,
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Speaker 1: and looked like a clean vehicle if law enforcement round
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Speaker 1: that tag. She was smart. She didn't use the stolen vehicle,
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Speaker 1: and she had the money to do that, because the
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Speaker 1: stolen vehicle would immediately go up all points of bullets
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Speaker 1: and an APB on that thinking. These two had done it,
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Speaker 1: But not only did they get the three separate getaway cars,
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Speaker 1: they blew it when they went to a car wash.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen our cut forty one to VTM thirteen
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Speaker 1: on me third, a stolen Furt f WIN fifty was
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Speaker 1: discovered at a car wash in Evansville. Surveillance footage from
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Speaker 1: the car wash appears to show Casey White the first
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Speaker 1: sighting of him in the city, meaning they were there
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Speaker 1: for possibly a week. Well, they're criminals. Sometimes they do
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Speaker 1: things that are unexplainable, but in this case, I'm glad
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Speaker 1: they did. Casey will be extradited back to Alabama to
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Speaker 1: face arrayment. Sheriff Singleton says he will do everything in
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Speaker 1: his power to make sure he can never escape again.
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Speaker 1: To you, Sheriff Rick Singleton, the Lauderdale County elected sheriff. Sheriff.
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Speaker 1: Let me understand this. So they get three getaway cars
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Speaker 1: and then while they're on the run they haven't been caught,
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Speaker 1: they take one to a car wash. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: to back up just a little bit, the krup, I understand,
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Speaker 1: was in an individual yard that was for sale and
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Speaker 1: they bought it off of an individual. Also, the first
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Speaker 1: major break we got in the case really related to
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Speaker 1: that truck because when we got the information on the
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Speaker 1: truck and the marshals ran it on NCISE to see
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Speaker 1: if there have been in the activity, that's when they
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Speaker 1: found out that an officer there in Evansville had checked
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Speaker 1: that truck out a few days before. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: what led us to Evansville to start with. So the
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Speaker 1: truck was a key part of being able to find
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Speaker 1: me and locate them where they were at as far
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Speaker 1: as I'm staying in a motel, you know, they had
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Speaker 1: paid the bill ahead of time for two weeks. And
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be my personal opinion is that the
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Speaker 1: national media attention that this guy, I think drove them underground.
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Speaker 1: I think that's why they wanted to stay there for
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and lay low, because they knew
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Speaker 1: if they poked their head out. Just as you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: she said in that audio that, you know, we should
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Speaker 1: have never left the motel. You know, I think they
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Speaker 1: knew if they got out and about that they'd be
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Speaker 1: spotted Yeast Prince at w the Fox. But it all
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Speaker 1: started at James Stinson's car wash a week ago, where
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Speaker 1: he saw a truck abandoned in one of the stalls.
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Speaker 1: The winds are down the door gunlock. My first thought,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, it could be this gap from Alabama.
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Speaker 1: He had the truck towed the next day. Fast forward
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Speaker 1: to Sunday night. His phone goes off. It's the US
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Speaker 1: Marshall's confirming his suspicions. I said, did you have a
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Speaker 1: card over the call? Like, yes, I did. I said,
21:25
Speaker 1: in fact that guy and Alaman managed Yeah it did.
21:27
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, they were there waiting for authorities to arrive.
21:30
Speaker 1: Stintson alerted forty four News Monday morning. Stenson showed us
21:33
Speaker 1: the surveillance video, with six foot nine Casey White clearly visible.
21:37
Speaker 1: You can see him standing by the blue F one
21:39
Speaker 1: fifties stolen from Tennessee, waiting for Vicky White. I see
21:43
Speaker 1: her charkle back around and a cab like a dicky
21:45
Speaker 1: him up and then they layed together. The US Marshall
21:48
Speaker 1: shared some of the images in a press release alerting
21:50
Speaker 1: local law enforcements, bringing us back to the pursuit and
21:54
Speaker 1: capture of the fugitives and more in our cut forty
21:57
Speaker 1: five L five up. They've been staying at a hotel
22:02
Speaker 1: down the road here. It used to be in Motel
22:04
Speaker 1: six and now think it's changed names, and they had
22:09
Speaker 1: a fourteen days stay there. We were fortunate that during
22:14
Speaker 1: our investigation yesterday and that was a police officer who
22:18
Speaker 1: was just doing his good diligence of patrolling and being smart,
22:26
Speaker 1: noticed the vehicle in the parking lot of the hotel
22:29
Speaker 1: and notified us immediately. So the task force members got together,
22:36
Speaker 1: they drove down there, set up surveillance on the hotel.
22:40
Speaker 1: Soon thereafter, the two suspects exited the hotel and fled
22:46
Speaker 1: out of the hotel parking lot. They fled out of
22:49
Speaker 1: the hotel parking lot and headed northbound on US Highway
22:53
Speaker 1: forty one, taking listen our cup forty six explaining it.
22:57
Speaker 1: The two suspects exited the hotel and fled out of
23:01
Speaker 1: the hotel parking lot northbound on US Highway forty one,
23:07
Speaker 1: turned in at an industry known as Anchor here in Uppsville.
23:13
Speaker 1: They went through the parking lot, went through a grass field.
23:17
Speaker 1: The members of the US Task Force basically ran the
23:21
Speaker 1: vehicle and pushed it into a ditch. And we later
23:25
Speaker 1: found out had they not done that, the fugitive was
23:30
Speaker 1: going to engage in a shootout with law enforcement. So
23:34
Speaker 1: by our quick thinking, our actions. Sometimes people may call
23:38
Speaker 1: that a necessary action, but that action may have saved
23:43
Speaker 1: many of my deputies and fellow law enforcement officers' lives.
23:48
Speaker 1: And that's why I represent the sheriff's office. I wouldn't
23:51
Speaker 1: bring my people home, and I don't care about the
23:54
Speaker 1: fugitives lives. I know that may sound harsh, but that
23:58
Speaker 1: is the view of law enforcement. They are trying to
24:00
Speaker 1: save the lives of their deputies and their people fighting
24:04
Speaker 1: crime and civilians. Not as were about the fusion of
24:08
Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton joining US special guests, the elected sheriff
24:12
Speaker 1: in Lauderdale County, Sheriff, could you explain to me how
24:15
Speaker 1: it went down? So they go to the car wash
24:19
Speaker 1: and it is there that the defendant is caught on camera,
24:24
Speaker 1: all six foot nine inches of him. She pulls around
24:28
Speaker 1: and picks him up in the caddy. They leave the
24:31
Speaker 1: F one fifty there, go back to the motel and
24:34
Speaker 1: that's when they are surveiled. How did it all happen?
24:37
Speaker 1: Could you lay it out for a sheriff? Well, you know,
24:42
Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to just basic good
24:43
Speaker 1: old fashioned police ward, you know, having the description of
24:47
Speaker 1: that Cadillac and my understanding of a patrol officers broughted
24:51
Speaker 1: that Cadillac in the parking lot. You know, it sort
24:55
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the Air Rudolph case where a
24:58
Speaker 1: rookie police officer found him drummaging through a dumpster, you know.
25:03
Speaker 1: And and that's that's the unique thing about this particular case.
25:06
Speaker 1: You know, usually when you have someone escape from a
25:08
Speaker 1: county jail, there's really no plan, you know, the only
25:11
Speaker 1: plan is get out, and then once they're out, they
25:13
Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to do, and so usually
25:16
Speaker 1: they're apprehended within a matter of hours, if not just
25:19
Speaker 1: a few days. But this was well thought out, well orchestrated.
25:23
Speaker 1: They had all the resources they needed. And you know,
25:27
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that just this morning. You know,
25:30
Speaker 1: when you stop and think about it, I mean, this
25:32
Speaker 1: was like looking for a needle in a haystack. They
25:35
Speaker 1: had almost a seventy two hour lead on us before
25:38
Speaker 1: we got our first major lead, and that was just
25:41
Speaker 1: identifying the car they left the shopping center in. They
25:45
Speaker 1: could have been anywhere in this country. And when you
25:47
Speaker 1: start thinking about you're looking for two people that could
25:51
Speaker 1: be anywhere in the United States, I mean, it's like
25:55
Speaker 1: looking for a needle in a haystack. We had no
25:56
Speaker 1: clue what direction they went in at that time. We
26:00
Speaker 1: did find out late Sunday night that this was the
26:03
Speaker 1: car that they did leave here in turns out that
26:07
Speaker 1: car had been abandoned the day they left, So, you know,
26:10
Speaker 1: when got to it, we didn't have the back square one,
26:13
Speaker 1: didn't never really have a lead. But I'm gonna tell
26:17
Speaker 1: you the United States Marshall's SIS Task Force, that is
26:22
Speaker 1: a tremendous group of young men and women who do
26:26
Speaker 1: their job and do it very well, and my own
26:29
Speaker 1: investigators in the early hours of this investigation, I mean,
26:32
Speaker 1: they did a tremendous job of canvassing that shopping center,
26:35
Speaker 1: trying to develop some lead because we started with absolutely nothing. Well,
26:40
Speaker 1: I gotta agree with you, Sheriff. I'm a big fan
26:42
Speaker 1: of the US Marshals. My long time investigator, the first
26:47
Speaker 1: investigator I was assigned in the District Attorney's office, big
26:52
Speaker 1: huge guy, Robert McMichaels. He had a football ring, he
26:57
Speaker 1: had played football, and I remember when I lost him.
27:03
Speaker 1: He went to become the US Marshal for the Northern
27:08
Speaker 1: District of Georgia and just a great, great man, relentless
27:13
Speaker 1: his whole team. That's when I first really learned whether
27:17
Speaker 1: the US Marshals do so, Sheriff, could you walk us
27:21
Speaker 1: through if you don't mind, I know you know it
27:23
Speaker 1: like the back of your hand. But everybody wants to
27:26
Speaker 1: know how this thing went down. We know how they
27:30
Speaker 1: get out of the jail, We know how she planned
27:32
Speaker 1: it for weeks and weeks and weeks. We know they
27:35
Speaker 1: left in the orange getaway car, and that they swapped
27:40
Speaker 1: the patrol car with a getaway car in a shopping mall,
27:44
Speaker 1: shopping strip center. But then what happened, Well, they obviously
27:48
Speaker 1: headed north to you know, had trouble with that car.
27:51
Speaker 1: Walf the crust. My understanding is just right there in
27:54
Speaker 1: the general area where the Ford Edge was abandoned. So
27:58
Speaker 1: so yes, I think they probably they walked and so
28:00
Speaker 1: this truck in the yard for sale and bought it.
28:03
Speaker 1: But you know, the apparently they went there straight to
28:06
Speaker 1: Evansville because my understanding right, I think that truck would
28:10
Speaker 1: run either on Monday or Tuesday by that police officer
28:13
Speaker 1: up there, reported by the car washowner, and of course
28:17
Speaker 1: it didn't come back stolen. They got into Cadillac check
28:20
Speaker 1: into this motel, and I really think the reason they
28:22
Speaker 1: did that, and especially paying two weeks up front, is
28:25
Speaker 1: that they by now this has made national news. Their
28:29
Speaker 1: pictures flastered all over news stations all across the country
28:33
Speaker 1: on radio shows. H you know, so they're out there
28:36
Speaker 1: and and know that they're going to be easily spotted
28:40
Speaker 1: if they're out and about Uh. He tells them, we
28:42
Speaker 1: should have never left the hotel, you know, and you know,
28:46
Speaker 1: but they do. And I don't know where they were
28:48
Speaker 1: headed when they left the hotel Monday, but wherever it
28:52
Speaker 1: was is a bad choice on their part. We knew
28:55
Speaker 1: that the rooms in this I think it was a
28:58
Speaker 1: quality in were very small, very bare, with an open closet.
29:05
Speaker 1: Not much was found in the room. But we also
29:07
Speaker 1: know that no one, none of the guests, saw Vicky
29:14
Speaker 1: White or her gailhouse lover leave go in or out,
29:21
Speaker 1: so there had to be some form of delivery going
29:23
Speaker 1: in and out. I'm curious that the delivery person saw
29:27
Speaker 1: them was suspicious because we also know that Vicky White
29:31
Speaker 1: had tried her best to alter her appearance, even using
29:35
Speaker 1: different wigs. In the end, she was recognized, and it's
29:41
Speaker 1: believed she took her own life or did she listen?
29:46
Speaker 1: These are her last words? Hello, thanks John, airbags are going.
30:07
Speaker 1: We'll get out the wrong hotel. You hear her say,
30:20
Speaker 1: we should never have left the hotel. We should get
30:23
Speaker 1: out and run time stories with Nancy Grace time on. Hello,
30:55
Speaker 1: thanks John. You hear her say we should never have
31:15
Speaker 1: left the hotel. We should get out and run straight
31:20
Speaker 1: out to Sheriff Rick Singleton. Do you believe Vicky White
31:24
Speaker 1: took her own life? I think that's the possibility. UM
31:28
Speaker 1: My understanding is that's that's that's what the local authorities
31:32
Speaker 1: there in Indiana. I think that the evidence leads up
31:36
Speaker 1: to um. The thing about Vicky White, uh, you know,
31:40
Speaker 1: she obviously was facing criminal charities back here. But knowing
31:45
Speaker 1: the Vicky I've known for the last seven years, I
31:48
Speaker 1: think she was more uh uh, I guess distraught over
31:54
Speaker 1: having to come back here and face her family and
31:56
Speaker 1: friends as she was the charges. Um. I think that.
32:01
Speaker 1: I mean she she was loved by her co workers,
32:04
Speaker 1: you know, and and uh you know, respected and uh
32:08
Speaker 1: you know. I think that played on her as much
32:10
Speaker 1: as as the charges themselves. And of course she's worked
32:13
Speaker 1: seventeen years and in an institution. She holds what it's
32:16
Speaker 1: like to live on the other side of the bars. Um,
32:19
Speaker 1: you know, that might have been a factor too, But
32:21
Speaker 1: I think there is a possibility. And then my understanding
32:24
Speaker 1: is that they feel for you know, pretty much certain
32:29
Speaker 1: that that happened. We've been told that in the end
32:33
Speaker 1: she was found with a single gunshot wound and that
32:38
Speaker 1: she still had the gun in her hand. Is that true, sheriff?
32:42
Speaker 1: That's my understanding. You know that I've seen some video
32:46
Speaker 1: clips were offered are at the car and they're talking
32:49
Speaker 1: about the gun in her hand, uh and so forth,
32:53
Speaker 1: and the other thing I've heard about the on the
32:55
Speaker 1: some reports that she called nine one one. My understanding
32:59
Speaker 1: is when the vehicle Rick that's the north Star automatically
33:03
Speaker 1: called nine one one, and that's we're actually we're hearing
33:07
Speaker 1: their conversations. I don't think she actually knew she was
33:12
Speaker 1: being recorded by nine one one, right, I don't think
33:14
Speaker 1: she did either. That is how we get the recording
33:19
Speaker 1: that we've been playing for you. Everybody, is the nav
33:23
Speaker 1: system within that vehicle that Cadillac started up a call
33:30
Speaker 1: upon the crash and call nine one one is my
33:34
Speaker 1: understanding to doctor Tim Gallagher, or medical examiner for the
33:37
Speaker 1: State of Florida, Doctor Gallagher, how common is it when
33:41
Speaker 1: someone commits suicide and I believe she was shot in
33:45
Speaker 1: the head, that they can hold onto the gun. Well,
33:50
Speaker 1: that's typically what we find when somebody commits suicide that way.
33:55
Speaker 1: While they're in the seated position, so typically their hand
33:59
Speaker 1: would fall down to their side, and because of primitive
34:04
Speaker 1: neurological actions that are still going on in their hand,
34:09
Speaker 1: their hand tends to clench, they tend to make a fist,
34:13
Speaker 1: and then they make a fist around that gun and
34:15
Speaker 1: it's still it's still found in their hand, even with
34:18
Speaker 1: their fingers still pulled on the trigger. So when you're
34:22
Speaker 1: when you're standing of course that's not the case. Typically,
34:25
Speaker 1: Typically they dropped the gun and it could be on
34:28
Speaker 1: the right or the left side of them. But when
34:30
Speaker 1: they're sitting down, or even when they're laying down on
34:32
Speaker 1: a bed, so for instant, their hand clenches around that
34:37
Speaker 1: gun and they're often found with the gun still in
34:40
Speaker 1: their hand, their fingers still on the trigger too. Lenny
34:42
Speaker 1: de Paul former US Marshall Service Fugitive Task Force Lenny,
34:47
Speaker 1: are you surprised that she killed herself? And do you
34:51
Speaker 1: think that she believed Casey White, her jailhouse lover, was
34:57
Speaker 1: going to shoot it out and that they would both
35:01
Speaker 1: go down in a blaze of glory. You know, Nancy,
35:03
Speaker 1: this eleven day man hunt. I was concerned about her
35:06
Speaker 1: all the way around. I mean, I don't know how
35:08
Speaker 1: this thing was going to play out, considering his background,
35:10
Speaker 1: his violence. I mean, he's doing life in prison, looking
35:13
Speaker 1: at the death penalty on another case, and talking with
35:16
Speaker 1: the commanders and these task forces. I was going back
35:19
Speaker 1: and forth with them all week, and that was their
35:21
Speaker 1: biggest worry. How is this going to end? But she
35:23
Speaker 1: going to become a hostage. Wasn't going to be suicide
35:26
Speaker 1: by cop? Was it? A barricaded suspect situation, So these
35:29
Speaker 1: guys were hitting on all cylinders and of course not
35:32
Speaker 1: ruling anything out. I'm a little surprised that she took
35:34
Speaker 1: her own life. I do, yeah, I was. I was
35:36
Speaker 1: a little worried and taking in consideration the weapons that
35:39
Speaker 1: were found in that vehicle, you know, and the cars
35:42
Speaker 1: that they were dumping, whether it was flat tires and
35:44
Speaker 1: mechanical issues. I don't think they were transporting provisions and
35:47
Speaker 1: weapons and everything into these cars. They were probably paying
35:50
Speaker 1: cash for food. She was disguised, wearing wigs all the
35:54
Speaker 1: time from what I understand from the investigator, So she
35:57
Speaker 1: might have when out got food, came back whatever was low.
36:00
Speaker 1: But she was definitely off the grid, going darth for
36:02
Speaker 1: a little while. Don't believe they had any forms of communications,
36:05
Speaker 1: any devices, any cell phones from what I'm hearing. But
36:09
Speaker 1: you know, they had made ahead of Plan B or
36:11
Speaker 1: a Plan C, but it didn't work out too well
36:13
Speaker 1: for I gut. You know, when Lenny De Paul said guns,
36:18
Speaker 1: they were armed to the hilt. Fourhand guns semi automatics
36:21
Speaker 1: nine millimeter known as the AAR fifteen that she used,
36:23
Speaker 1: two twenty three caliber rounds, any of them could have
36:27
Speaker 1: been used to gun down a civilian or an officer.
36:30
Speaker 1: You know, Sheriff Singleton, your girl was conned. She was conned.
36:35
Speaker 1: She thought this guy loved her and somehow she was
36:38
Speaker 1: going to live out some romantic fantasy change him to
36:42
Speaker 1: make him a good person. I guarantee you, Sheriff, she
36:46
Speaker 1: thought they were going to have a suicide pact. Guarantee
36:51
Speaker 1: you that they had talked about going out together in
36:55
Speaker 1: a blaze of glory. But that is not how it
36:58
Speaker 1: went down. I absolutely agree with you. Um, you know
37:04
Speaker 1: how many times have we seen this happen in our
37:07
Speaker 1: jails and prisons, you know, where especially a female correcking
37:11
Speaker 1: gusher is conned and wood you know, and and to
37:16
Speaker 1: thinking that you know, uh that that they are somehow
37:21
Speaker 1: special for this inmate. And you know, Casey White, if
37:24
Speaker 1: you watch the footage of him, I mean even at
37:26
Speaker 1: the scene, there no no visible sign, no body language
37:30
Speaker 1: of any or more any any uh grief or whatever
37:37
Speaker 1: that his quote wife had just shot herself. Um, you
37:41
Speaker 1: know it just uh you, like a lot of things,
37:45
Speaker 1: you just don't understand why people keep falling for it. Yeah,
37:50
Speaker 1: go ahead, Karen start he he in my mind, had
37:53
Speaker 1: a smirk on his face. He wasn't crying, as Sheriff
37:56
Speaker 1: Singleton is pointing out, he's not moaning about his wife.
37:59
Speaker 1: Nothing thing. And I'm not surprised at all. When we
38:02
Speaker 1: talked the other day, I said, this man's office meds
38:06
Speaker 1: he's really dangerous and there's not just physical abuse, there's
38:10
Speaker 1: emotional I don't know how much he got her to
38:13
Speaker 1: believe that they were going to do this past just
38:16
Speaker 1: like a shirt said, together and actually in their lives.
38:21
Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised he was smirking because there's a
38:23
Speaker 1: guy who has no feeling he can commit commit murder,
38:27
Speaker 1: so what wife, That's ridiculous. He could care less. Final thoughts,
38:32
Speaker 1: Sir Singleton, I'm glad he's off the street. You know,
38:35
Speaker 1: I appreciate all the help, especially from the media. I
38:40
Speaker 1: think the media played the key role in driving them underground,
38:43
Speaker 1: and and you know, once they let somewhere for a while,
38:47
Speaker 1: that gave our investigators time to follow up on the
38:49
Speaker 1: leads and tips and actually locate them. And we couldn't
38:56
Speaker 1: have done it without the media and without the tips
38:57
Speaker 1: from the public. That's that's through in any kind of
39:00
Speaker 1: criminal investigation. I mean the public so important in an
39:04
Speaker 1: occasion like this. I can't stress enough the importance of
39:07
Speaker 1: the media cooperating and helping us get the word out there.
39:10
Speaker 1: I think it was a major factor. Casey White has
39:13
Speaker 1: been charged with felony murder in connection with the death
39:17
Speaker 1: of his lover, prison guard Vicky White. We wait as
39:23
Speaker 1: justice un false Nancy Grace Crimes Joy signing off goodbye