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8-21: That's Flocked Up! Are Flock Cameras Worth Losing Your Privacy? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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Speaker 1: Is it ironic that on a day I finally get
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Speaker 1: to talk about flock cameras and privacy concerns, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden my computers shut down. Was I blocked by Microsoft?
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not going that deep into conspiracy theory, but
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Speaker 1: I think it's finally time to talk about this issue.
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Speaker 1: Flock cameras. You've seen them on the news, You've seen
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Speaker 1: the individual stories, You've probably heard your friends talking about them.
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Speaker 1: Security cameras everywhere. By the way, you're going to be
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Speaker 1: shocked at how many are actually in place right now
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Speaker 1: as we speak. The debate is kind of broken down to, Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you can hear and find any interview you want.
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Speaker 1: There's hundreds of them out there, police agencies across the country,
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Speaker 1: government officials, people from the Flock company itself, telling you
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Speaker 1: how they can stop crime and find missing kids and
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Speaker 1: all this other stuff. At what cost? That's the big question,
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Speaker 1: your privacy, because they got you.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I've always been one of these people that says, I
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Speaker 1: have such a boring life. Just about the only controversial
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Speaker 1: thing I do is on the air and then on
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Speaker 1: here say some things that may piss people off. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: whatever that's part of what I do. That's about it.
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Speaker 1: Other than that it's a boring life. So I've always said,
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get me on my plane, faster,
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Speaker 1: keep me safer, whatever it is. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: let's just be adults here. If you've ever been to
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Speaker 1: a theme park, if you've ever registered, if you've ever
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Speaker 1: had a license, they have you. Okay, they have your
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Speaker 1: information also right now, you me, no matter where you are,
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Speaker 1: no matter when you're watching or listening to this from satellite,
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Speaker 1: can zoom in on us right now if they wanted
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Speaker 1: to write. But most of us have nothing to hide,
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Speaker 1: So what's the big deal. Here's the difference with flock cameras.
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Speaker 1: They can find you, track you, metadata, put together on you,
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Speaker 1: put together a file on you in real time without
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Speaker 1: your permission, just like with the security cameras or satellites.
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Speaker 1: The difference is who's in charge of it. And we've
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Speaker 1: got all kinds of stories now, and there's all kinds
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Speaker 1: of incidents and stories where in the hands of human
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Speaker 1: beings and we're all, you know, imperfect in one way
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Speaker 1: or another. This amazing technology can be corrupted. And the
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Speaker 1: argument is, well, those are just a couple of isolated stories.
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Speaker 1: As we'll show you here. They're not that isolated and
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Speaker 1: they can show you what can happen, So we'll get
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Speaker 1: into it. A lot did go over here and this
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Speaker 1: sounds terrible, but I'm not afraid to admit it. You
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Speaker 1: know what finally turned me after all this and I've
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Speaker 1: been looking at this stuff for like months now to
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Speaker 1: try to figure out how I feel about this. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, they can stop crime, but the big safety concerns.
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Speaker 1: The first tipping point from me were all of these
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Speaker 1: stories that are coming out now from police agencies that
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Speaker 1: we're using them for underhanded means. The other thing though,
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Speaker 1: was actually hearing from this company CEO himself. I don't
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Speaker 1: like that weasel. That was enough for me. I just
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Speaker 1: don't like them and I don't trust them. That was
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Speaker 1: the tipping point. We'll get into it all right. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for find a Wicked Radio in the live stream. Sorry
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Speaker 1: so late today, but the replay which you can watch
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Speaker 1: or listen to wherever you want ex YouTube and Facebook,
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Speaker 1: and the audio podcast uploaded almost immediately after we get
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Speaker 1: off the live stream. Let's get right to it.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: You've heard about this and that, but you're busy, You've
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Speaker 1: got things to worry about. You're trying to carry your family.
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Speaker 1: What are these flock cameras? There was a technology blogger
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Speaker 1: who put together so far would I found the best
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Speaker 1: description of exactly what these things are and what they
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Speaker 1: can do? Here you doing?
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Speaker 4: This is a flock safety camera, a solar power pole
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Speaker 4: mounted system designed to capture six to twelve images of
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Speaker 4: passing vehicles, along with metadata like time, location, and vehicle attributes.
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Speaker 4: But the camera is only the edge of the system.
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Speaker 4: That data moves through encrypted cellular links into flock OS,
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Speaker 4: the central platform where events are stored, indexed, and searched.
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Speaker 1: From there, the software layer.
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Speaker 4: Comes online tools like flock Nova analyzed patterns across location.
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Speaker 4: The National LPR Network enables authorized cross agency searches. Free
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Speaker 4: Form allows natural language queries across massive data sets.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's be an objective. If you were just
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Speaker 1: hearing about this the first time, you're going, Wow, it's
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Speaker 1: amazing technology. It's absolutely incredible, and your first thought, being
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Speaker 1: a normal human being, is this would be great. You
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Speaker 1: can stop terrorists, you can stop creepers, you can stop
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Speaker 1: regular street criminals, you can stop you can find stolen cars,
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Speaker 1: a stolen property. Absolutely, and by the way, all of
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Speaker 1: that is true, you can you can also use it
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Speaker 1: to do really really bad things. And again the argument
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Speaker 1: against this is, oh, those are just isolated incidents of
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Speaker 1: police agencies and actual officers, you know, using these to
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Speaker 1: spy on people they don't like or domestic situations. Those
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Speaker 1: are just iso isolated incidents. They ain't that isolated, kids,
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Speaker 1: They're really not. There is a lot of them out there.
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Speaker 1: So let's go to some of those before we get
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Speaker 1: to some of the other things that are in the
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Speaker 1: news about the Flock cameras. Here you go. This one
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Speaker 1: is in suburban Boston.
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Speaker 2: Those controversial license place tracking cameras made by Flock back
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Speaker 2: in the spotlight. A Massachusetts police officer on leave at
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Speaker 2: risk of losing his job and possibly facing criminal charges
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Speaker 2: for allegedly abusing the technology. The so Police Department says
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Speaker 2: officer Jason Rogers improperly access to information about someone he
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Speaker 2: knows five different times in the Flock database. The highly
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Speaker 2: scrutinized Flock cameras automatically photograph every passing vehicle into a
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Speaker 2: database that officers can sorts without a warrant.
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Speaker 1: A fight. Now you think what I think that the
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Speaker 1: term when I see those stories that pops into my
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Speaker 1: head immediately is big brother. Remember that old expression big
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Speaker 1: brother is watching you. Well, yeah, big brothers watching you.
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Speaker 1: They're also collecting data on you. They know your patterns,
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Speaker 1: they have the pattern recognition, they have all the data
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Speaker 1: you want. And again, how come it seems as though
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Speaker 1: in all of these stories that are popping up, and
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Speaker 1: I got a few more for you, anybody in the
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Speaker 1: police agency can access it. I understand the technology is there. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: it's obvious to all of us now what they can do.
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Speaker 1: But anybody can just go in and access what they found. Anybody,
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Speaker 1: all right? So that was Boston. Let's go to another
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Speaker 1: recent thing. This one's in the Wisconsin's.
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Speaker 5: Part of an exclusive group of detectives assigned to investigate
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Speaker 5: misconduct by fellow officers.
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Speaker 6: Prosecutors say he was the one breaking the law spying
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Speaker 6: on citizens with city owned cameras and a personal GPS device.
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Speaker 6: Derek Rose is tracking those developments in the flock camera
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Speaker 6: spying scandal. And Derek, this detective has twenty two years
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Speaker 6: of service.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Blake, it is rare to see someone from Internal
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Speaker 5: Affairs and this division face criminal charges given.
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Speaker 1: Them nature not that rare. Again, the counter argument to this,
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Speaker 1: you see all the time is these are isolated incidents.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about this, No, not really, there is a
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Speaker 1: pattern there. And again I go back to this question.
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Speaker 1: They've set this system in place. I'm going to tell
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Speaker 1: you how many are in the country right now, which
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Speaker 1: will shock you in just a second. Where's the protocol
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Speaker 1: in place so anybody can just access this information? Anybody? Really,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like it sounds like they put these things
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Speaker 1: in place, thousands of them, by the way, without any protocols,
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Speaker 1: any backcheck system, and he failsafes anything. So before we
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Speaker 1: go on any more cases like that, let's just I
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Speaker 1: asked ROC a couple of minutes before we went on, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what are we talking about here, Groc? How many are
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Speaker 1: in How many flock cameras from this country are in
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Speaker 1: the plate are in the country right now? Couple one
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Speaker 1: hundred in the big cities, couple of thousand, hold on everybody.
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Speaker 1: According to Rock, roughly one hundred to one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty thousand plus flock safety cameras are currently deployed across
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Speaker 1: the United States. So before we even knew about the issue,
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Speaker 1: before it started to pop up in your timeline or
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Speaker 1: people like me talking about it, or major news stories
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Speaker 1: like that. You just saw. They were able to put
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Speaker 1: in one hundred twenty thousand estimated throughout the entire country,
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Speaker 1: right under our noses. That's another concern. Okay, uh, municipalities,
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Speaker 1: law enforcementencies in about five thousand to seven thousand agencies,
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Speaker 1: six thousand communities across forty nine states, Oki Doke. So
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting here is you got a hold of
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Speaker 1: this technology, you bought into this Flock company. We'll hear
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Speaker 1: from the CEO in a second, and you put them
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Speaker 1: in place without setting up the protocol and the legalities
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Speaker 1: of exactly who can check the information that you're gathering
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Speaker 1: in real time at twenty four to seven? Well, now,
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Speaker 1: all right, now the stories individual stories from police agencies.
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Speaker 1: You saw the one in suburban Boston, you saw the
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Speaker 1: one from Milwaukee. There's a whole bunch of them out there.
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Speaker 1: It's not that rare. This is the one that really
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Speaker 1: got me. This is a viral video because it's from
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Speaker 1: a police bodycam of another case of a flock camera
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Speaker 1: being used, but a police officer getting the wrong information
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Speaker 1: from it. This was a lady who got a knock
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Speaker 1: on the door and she was accused of stealing a
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Speaker 1: delivery package because the officer is you're gonna hear here,
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Speaker 1: insists that she stole it. This camera doesn't lie. I
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Speaker 1: have the technology and goes on to say, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to show it to you. I'll give you the
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Speaker 1: update of the story here, but I'll just tell you
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Speaker 1: this is total, total mistake and identity. Again. Technology is
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Speaker 1: great in the hands of this particularly flawed human being,
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Speaker 1: completely got it.
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Speaker 3: We have cameras everywhere in that town. You can't get
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Speaker 3: a breath of fresh air in or out without us knowing.
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Speaker 3: You know, the quality on the camera doorbell you have.
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Speaker 3: I've got that on my phone right now of you
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Speaker 3: taking that package. Where is this? I just told you, Okay,
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Speaker 3: I have you on camera, you taking a package.
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Speaker 1: But you don't. And here's the end story of this one.
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Speaker 1: It was complete mistaken identity again in the hands of
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Speaker 1: a flawed cop who why does he have the access
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Speaker 1: to this? She was falsely accused. The case was dropped
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Speaker 1: in her county court system because she was able to
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Speaker 1: prove through her celphone on tracking data that she wasn't
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Speaker 1: even near the area. It's complete mistake and identity. But
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Speaker 1: it still didn't stop the cop from knocking on her
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Speaker 1: door and saying, I've got you on camera and I
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Speaker 1: have I see you coming in and out, and I
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Speaker 1: have this and it's and I don't have to show
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Speaker 1: you this. That's a problem too. So is the placement.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where in the country this is. This
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Speaker 1: is just for I'm a TikTok video. There's so many.
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Speaker 1: If there's one hundred and twenty thousand estimated flock cameras
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Speaker 1: throughout the country, they can't all be looking for criminals.
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Speaker 1: Why are there so many in places where you'd say, hey,
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Speaker 1: there shouldn't be a flock camera there. Here's one lady
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Speaker 1: who says, I wonder why this is pointed at a
10:16
Speaker 1: water park literally, Why does Anna have a.
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Speaker 7: Flock camera.
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Speaker 2: Literally facing the kids splash pad.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good question. I guess the argument
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Speaker 1: would be to make sure that the kids are safe
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Speaker 1: and no bad people or creepers come in there to
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Speaker 1: bother the kids or maybe an accident thing. Yeah, I
10:43
Speaker 1: get that, but couldn't you imagine way worse possibilities and
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Speaker 1: why that thing would be pointed directly at the kid's
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Speaker 1: water park. Again, the technology is pretty amazing at what
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Speaker 1: it can do. It's in the hands of people who
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Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't have access to this information. Here's another one
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Speaker 1: that may get now. This one goes to Daytona Beach, Florida.
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Speaker 1: This is a lawyer, by the way, so I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he's on this case. One weekend, not too long ago,
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Speaker 1: I think it was last month, he went to his
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Speaker 1: local gun range get some practice shots in and he
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Speaker 1: noticed a flock camera right there at the entrance. Here's
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Speaker 1: what he said.
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Speaker 8: There are freaking flock cameras at the gun range. This
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Speaker 8: is the entrance to the gun range. So they got
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Speaker 8: you coming in. They also got you going out. Today's Wednesday,
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Speaker 8: so the gun range is closed until two, so there's
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Speaker 8: nobody here.
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Speaker 1: Why why is there a flock camera pointed at the
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Speaker 1: gun range, like, as the lawyer said, there so they
11:41
Speaker 1: can see it coming in and coming out. Why why Well,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure, and there's always the counter argument, Well,
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Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you know nothing happens here.
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Speaker 1: There are people who have weapons in hand, and this
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Speaker 1: and this and right, But couldn't you imagine a scenario
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Speaker 1: where somebody who's very, very very against the Second Amendment
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Speaker 1: will get a hold of this and finding out and
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Speaker 1: keeping tabs on who goes to the gun range. Couldn't
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Speaker 1: you just imagined that scenario after we've already seen this
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Speaker 1: in the hands of the wrong kind of people and
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Speaker 1: published reports of that and media reports of that being
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Speaker 1: used for illicit purposes. Of course you can, so you
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Speaker 1: can imagine that the fight back is happening now. Not
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Speaker 1: advocating this, I'm just saying it's interesting in a sociological
12:20
Speaker 1: aspect to take a look at this kind of thing
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Speaker 1: and see how people have push him back. Been all
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Speaker 1: kinds of incidents of people taking saws alls and chopping
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Speaker 1: down the poles right away, or covering up or spray
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Speaker 1: painting or doing all kinds of damage. I thought this
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Speaker 1: was interesting. This is in Saint Pete, Florida, on the
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Speaker 1: west coast of the state. This guy found a loophole
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Speaker 1: in the law where he says, well, they're placed in
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Speaker 1: public land, and I'm a resident of the city. I'm
12:43
Speaker 1: not damaging the camera. I just take my little lawn
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Speaker 1: chair and he sets it up with a giant pole
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Speaker 1: with a with a like a cardboard thing and he
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Speaker 1: blocks the camera. This is what the guy does a
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Speaker 1: lot of retire reasons. Saint Pete. Maybe that's his thing,
12:57
Speaker 1: but check him out. His name is Carl Dug. I
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Speaker 1: can't remember his last name. But he's making some news
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Speaker 1: as well. He's not breaking the law, but they try
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Speaker 1: to stop him every single day. Yo.
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Speaker 5: What's that piece of hanging on the pole? That's a
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Speaker 5: fuck camera, right, and you got the boys out here
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Speaker 5: protecting it. They got like, I don't know, a thousand dollars,
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Speaker 5: you're worth of gold? Yo, what's your name up?
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Speaker 1: The video is from a guy in the car supporting him.
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Speaker 1: Obviously in the copy, he's right. There was like six
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Speaker 1: cop cars trying to stop him, and the guy keeps
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Speaker 1: on saying, I'm on city land. I'm not touching the poll.
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Speaker 1: I just I just happen to have a large pull
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Speaker 1: on my own blocking the flock camera. He's making his
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Speaker 1: own statement, and I said, in the beginning, I think this.
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Speaker 1: I started to feel terrible about this, but I decided
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not afraid to say it sometimes
13:48
Speaker 1: and maybe you're the same way. And I have to
13:51
Speaker 1: decide how I feel about a certain technology or a
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Speaker 1: certain company that does it. I look at the the
13:56
Speaker 1: executives or the people behind the company, the founders really,
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Speaker 1: because they really get a sense of what they want
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Speaker 1: to do with it. I've seen a couple of interviews
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Speaker 1: with the CEO of this Flock company. Let's go right
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Speaker 1: to the company itself. I mean, incredible business model. I
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Speaker 1: can imagine how much money they're making off of this.
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Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty thousand of these through six thousand
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Speaker 1: municipalities throughout the country. Yeah, you're ready? Is his name
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Speaker 1: is Garrett Langley. This sounds terrible to say, but after
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Speaker 1: all the evidence I put together, I was there already
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Speaker 1: against these things because of how they can be, you know,
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Speaker 1: compromised and corrupted. Then I heard this guy talk. I
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Speaker 1: don't like this little.
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Speaker 2: Weeks in the US history book.
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Speaker 8: They'll be a part of a flock, and how because of
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Speaker 8: flock we are a safer, happier, healthier company or country.
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Speaker 1: Yep, don't like him at all, not at all. Judge
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Speaker 1: me all you want for it, But that's a little weasel.
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Speaker 1: That's a little weasel who's in charge, who's more than
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Speaker 1: happy to take your privacy away. It will. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it has the technology and the ability. I'm sure these
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Speaker 1: cases too, where at stopped crime, where it's saved kids,
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Speaker 1: where it's you know, found stolen cars, where it's done
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Speaker 1: this here's the question we should all be asking, at
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Speaker 1: what cost your privacy? What's that worth? I know they've
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Speaker 1: got you everywhere, the camera's everywhere already, but not like
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Speaker 1: this in real time, and not like this where apparently
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Speaker 1: there's no protocols in place for any municipality, anybody, any
15:21
Speaker 1: cop can access the data that they've collected on you
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Speaker 1: have we seen in some of these national reports, so
15:27
Speaker 1: they can just track anybody they want. There's no So
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Speaker 1: they set up one hundred and twenty thousand of these
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Speaker 1: cameras in our country without a system in place or
15:35
Speaker 1: somebody checking with the legalities of it to see who
15:37
Speaker 1: can actually use them and access this technology is one thing,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're going away. I will tell
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Speaker 1: you that much. They're here. You're not going to remove
15:46
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand flock cameras with this much
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Speaker 1: invested in them. What needs to change is and what
15:51
Speaker 1: everybody should have done already in the first place, is
15:54
Speaker 1: set up some sort of a safety fail safe check
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Speaker 1: and balance protocol to make sure or that only the
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Speaker 1: proper people can access this information. And let's figure out
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Speaker 1: some sort of a law where you can't put them
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Speaker 1: in certain locations as well. Everybody in everybody is in
16:12
Speaker 1: favor of stopping crime, and this is what you go to.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like we've gone from sanctuary cities, which
16:20
Speaker 1: have been known to protect criminals. We've gone from that
16:22
Speaker 1: to people fighting that, to completely the other way to
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Speaker 1: now we're monitoring everybody and anybody every time we can.
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Speaker 1: We jumped the shark on this way too soon. I
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Speaker 1: don't think the technology's going away. I wouldn't imagine anyway.
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Speaker 1: We've got to be able to get some checks and
16:38
Speaker 1: balances on this thing, though. But I'll wrap this up.
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Speaker 1: I've given you and this just happened last night the
16:44
Speaker 1: San Diego City Council meeting where they take public comments.
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Speaker 1: This is the greatest argument, and I'm so glad this
16:51
Speaker 1: is going viral. This is the greatest argument against flowed
16:54
Speaker 1: cameras I've ever seen, and it comes from all people.
16:57
Speaker 1: Are you ready Darth Vader, But not really Darth Vader.
17:01
Speaker 1: He hasn't come to Earth. But it's a guy dressed
17:04
Speaker 1: up as Darth Vader, and he uses satire, like what
17:08
Speaker 1: would Darth Vader say about these cameras? He uses satire
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Speaker 1: to point out how evil these things can be. Let's
17:13
Speaker 1: go to the San Diego City Council for public comments
17:16
Speaker 1: on the flock cameras in their city. Out there, we'll
17:18
Speaker 1: take it in pieces to get to his argument. It
17:20
Speaker 1: is fantastic. And because it's a public comments section, they
17:24
Speaker 1: have to introduce him as Darth Vader. And yes he's
17:28
Speaker 1: in full costume.
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Speaker 7: Great, thank you Darth Vader.
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Speaker 1: And that's yes. You hear the breathing device and everything
17:39
Speaker 1: else he goes in there, and then you hear what
17:41
Speaker 1: he has to say about the entire issue. Here he
17:43
Speaker 1: is walking up to the microphone. Here he goes, here
17:48
Speaker 1: he is takes him awhile.
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Speaker 7: The Emperor is a fan of flock. And we must
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Speaker 7: continue utilizing flock technologies so that we can follow and
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Speaker 7: surveil the rebel scum as they move from playground to playground,
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Speaker 7: from playground to pool, from pool to gymnasium. Because we
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Speaker 7: all know that the Flock cameras are not only following
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Speaker 7: the license plate readers, they are following children. They are
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Speaker 7: following children in parks and gymnasiums, and we need this.
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Speaker 7: I need this so I can stuck my ex girlfriend.
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Speaker 1: That is how you make an argument with satire. I'm
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Speaker 1: so glad that video is going viral as Darth Vader
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Speaker 1: makes his case four flood charas and therefore making an
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Speaker 1: argument against them. Oh bruh, bravo, Darth Vader, bravo. So
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Speaker 1: that's a long and short of it. Scary part is
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Speaker 1: there's one hundred and twenty thousand of these things roam
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Speaker 1: not roaming, placed throughout the country, six thousand plus municipalities,
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Speaker 1: and so far, what we've learned is it really doesn't
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Speaker 1: look like there's any protocol in place. It looks like
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Speaker 1: anybody in those municipalities and a law enforcement agency can
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Speaker 1: access this information. Okay, I don't know if we're ever
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Speaker 1: going to get rid of these things, but what we
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Speaker 1: can do is fight for some checks and balances and
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Speaker 1: protocol on these things and put and not put them
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Speaker 1: on playgrounds. Thanks for finding me. I appreciate you. All right,
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Speaker 1: All right, don't get flocked. That's pretty flocked up. I
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Speaker 1: got all kinds of dad jokes to go. Make it
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