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Friday the 13th Bonus: Glenn Milner · Deadly Divas True Crime Podcast

• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, hey, hey, true crime dealers.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: And dudes.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Sarah.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Tina.
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  SPEAKER_01: And welcome to the Friday the thirteenth bonus bonus episode.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yay! So this show is gonna cover an episode of the Friday the 13th murders, which you can find on HBO and ID.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: It is season one, episode one, Obsession to Do Evil.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: And y'all should absolutely check it out because it is chilling.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Chili chili.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: The story is about a truly wicked and unhinged man named Glil Glen Glil Glen Milner.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say Glil Milner.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, who believed carrying out the most heinous acts imaginable on Friday the 13th would set him up for a glorious afterlife with Satan.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get ready, y'all.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: So our story begins in Panhandle, Texas, a small quiet town about 30 minutes from Amarillo.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: In 1990, the town was described as a very Christian, conservative farming community with a population of only about 2,000.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: There was one stoplight, a handful of shops, and a high school with only about 250 students.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I I looked to that twice because I'm like, the whole high school?
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: Not like per year, that's the whole high school.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: So Lori, who attended Panhandle High School during the time of our story, says Panhandle is the kind of town where nothing ever happens.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: But she goes on to say, this is the kind of thing people don't think actually happens, but it's true, and I know it's true because I was there.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then right away we hear Glenn Milner's videotaped confession.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: And Glenn Milner?
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, Glenn Milner.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: We hear his videotaped confession.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, the happy go-lucky tone he has during this is so unsettling.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says, This is my confession of what will probably happen within a few days, probably on Friday the 13th.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: All my life I've been different.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, I've got talent.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: I know I've got talent.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: I've got a good job.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: I have a nice car.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: I got a great family.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess the one thing that I do have is a desire to kill.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's just something I've always wanted to do.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: And this is my chance.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's time for me to move on.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: But before I do, I'm gonna take a few people with me.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: Happy Friday the 13th.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, just something I want to do.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like some people want to travel to Australia.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: And he just states all of this very pleasantly and matter-of-fact.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: Very matter-of-the-like he's just telling us his to-do list.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, Lori goes on to say that life in Panhandle in 1990 was quiet and predictable, oftentimes even boring.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Most of her days consisted of the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: She would go to school, work as a dishwasher at a local diner, and see the same classmates every single day, most of which she'd known since kindergarten.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine how many in a class?
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  SPEAKER_01: If there's 250 in the whole high school, and then you've got what, five years, so that's 50 in each year.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: Say you had two classes, the most you would have is 25 in a class, right?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Probably less than a few.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's that's generous.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: So at a town like that, there's obviously not much to do.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: They would drag Main Street, drive around, or go out drinking in the country.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: Entertainment options were extremely limited.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now let's pivot to Sheriff Tam Terry, a sheriff in the local Carson County Sheriff's Department.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: He says that Friday, July 13th, 1990, started just like any other night for him.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: He had two small children at home, and on this night, they were all getting ready for bed as they planned to go horseback riding the following day.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: He explains that the sheriff's department, the sheriff's department didn't even have a dispatcher after midnight back then.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: So if you called the police department, the radio actually rang in his house.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just before Sheriff Terry goes to bed, a call comes in.
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  SPEAKER_00: A brutal assault on a well-known man in Panhandle has occurred.
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  SPEAKER_00: This man's name is Jimmy Britton.
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  SPEAKER_00: At around one in the morning, Jimmy Britton has just gotten home after being out with friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shortly after, there's a knock at his door, which feels very wrong at 1 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he suspiciously checks the door, and in the dim light from a street lamp, he sees a teenage boy.
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  SPEAKER_00: The boy says there's been a car wreck and asks to use the phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jimmy, being the nice guy that he is, opens up the door.
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  SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, the kid immediately pounces.
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  SPEAKER_00: And before Jimmy can even process what's happening, he's being slashed with a knife across his chest, torso, and abdomen.
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  SPEAKER_00: For about 15 minutes, they fight and struggle room to room throughout Jimmy's house, wrestling over the knife.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just when Jimmy thinks he's about to lose, the attacker suddenly becomes violently ill.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: He starts uncontrollably vomiting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So quick thinking Jimmy, seizing this rare moment of opportunity, manages to shove him outside, slam the door, and lock it.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to pause right here really quick and just address the vomiting because it comes up again later.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: This could have been the attacker's body reacting to the gruesome act that he was carrying out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like something clearly went wrong in that moment, and his body was trying to tell him something was wrong.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: But I did also notice, I don't you can probably come across it later in your notes, but he was out drinking with the school kids earlier, and they said that he got pretty drunk and started vomiting then.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think probably he needed the alcohol for the courage to follow through with what he wanted to do, but that seemed to have already made him puke.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: So but the puking obviously did not seem to deter him.
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  SPEAKER_00: So back to poor Jimmy, he is bleeding profusely, but he keeps watching through the window because the attacker is circling the house, probably looking for another way in.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Then it hits him.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is another way in, the back door.
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  SPEAKER_00: He rushes as quickly as he can, wounded, and locks the back door just in time.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: And he finally calls 911.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: When he looks outside again, thankfully the attacker is gone.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: It was almost like watching a horror movie where you're like, Of course you go lock all the doors.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are you dumb?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: But he was severely attacked.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: He was, yeah.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it all just happened so fast.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was like, what the fuck's going on?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: So for a little background on Jimmy, our victim, Sheriff Terry describes him as a friend.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: He is a USDA meat inspector and a valued member of the Panhandle community.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: A church going, lawn perfect, everybody knows him kind of guy.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: He can't think of a single reason anybody would want to hurt him.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Jimmy was thankfully able to give police a description of the car the attacker was driving.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And with that information, Sheriff Terry takes off, driving over a hundred miles an hour to try and catch this guy.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: He finally stops when he reaches an intersection where he feels sure the suspect will need to take to get back into town.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: Now wait a minute, if it's a one-stop small town and you drive a hundred miles an hour, you're gonna get from one side to the other of the town in about six seconds.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that he did it really fast.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: So he pulls into a ditch, turns off the car and the headlights, and sits and wait.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's ready to intercept the suspect in any way that he needs to.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's ready to shoot off the tires or ram the vehicle if he has to.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: He did not come to play, y'all.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, no car matching that description ever comes.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Now, earlier that same night, Lori, one of the attacker's classmates as a reminder, has been at a birthday party out at a local lake called Lake McClellan.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: There was a bonfire, music, dancing, laughing, and lots of alcohol.
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  SPEAKER_00: Typical teenage stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, while these teenagers were having the time of their lives, they had absolutely no idea there was a killer among them.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: They were sitting ducks.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Make a mental note of this party, y'all, because it does come up later.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now back to Sheriff Terry.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: He says that these things just don't happen in a place like Panhandle.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Small town, everybody knows everybody.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: You get it.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: And what scares them the most is that there's no real way to warn people.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: This is before cell phones.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's the middle of the night and everybody's asleep.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: Many of them likely have their doors unlocked and their windows open because it's a hot summer night.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they're all completely unaware that someone armed and dangerous is roaming their small quiet town on the attack.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: So back to Jimmy again.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Even with multiple deep slash wounds, he is somehow still conscious when police arrive.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: And he tells them exactly who the attacker is: Glenn Milner, his stepdaughter's ex-boyfriend.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: What the fuck?
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Jimmy never liked Glenn.
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  SPEAKER_00: He thought he was bad news because he'd had a long history of trouble at school and with the police.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: And he definitely had a bad reputation in town as a dangerous troublemaker.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder why he didn't mention it on the 911 call, though.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: He was probably traumatized and bleeding out.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, nobody would have known who they were looking for when they would needle in a haystack running through the town.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder why he didn't.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Huh.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so this is where Glenn's past starts to make things look a whole lot darker.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Two years earlier, after a breakup with another girl, Glenn climbed the water tower and threatened to jump.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: But police managed to talk him down.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Not long after that, he literally, on purpose, in another attempt to commit suicide, drove off a cliff and survived.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: That was crazy.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely nuts.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sheriff Terry says that cliff is about a 600-foot drop at a 10 to 20% grade, and he truly has no idea how any human being could have survived that.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: So after that second suicide attempt, Glenn was admitted to a psychiatric hospital and eventually released.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: But Sheriff Terry believes Glenn deceptively learned how to play the role of a reformed and healthy young man, exactly what the doctors wanted to see.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: So now we're being painted the big picture.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn is devastated over losing his girlfriend.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: He blames Jimmy.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: He tries to kill himself twice, unsuccessfully.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: He learns that suicide will probably only get him confined again.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: So in his mind, the next best option becomes revenge, murder.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: So naturally, after the cops discover that Glenn is the attacker, they go to his house.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: But his parents claim they don't know where he is.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Still, they want to search the house just to be sure.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: So police open the door to Glenn's bedroom and are horrified at what they find.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: The walls are painted pitch black and covered with extremely gory and graphic movie posters.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: They also find over a dozen grotesque looking masks depicting bloody and mutilated human faces.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: And didn't they say he had mutilated some of them himself as well?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he had mutilated them.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: And what officers first think is a body on the floor until they realize it's thankfully a fake corpse Glenn made.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: Now, as if all this wasn't bad enough, then they find the most disturbing thing of all a handwritten hit list containing about a dozen people who have no idea they are in present danger.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Police now know that Jimmy Britton was only the beginning.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now, one of the names on that list is Frankie Garcia.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Frankie is a 17-year-old student at Panhandle High School about to start his senior year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lori describes him as a sweet, genuinely good kid.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: That night, Frankie rides out to an abandoned barn the local kids call the haunted house.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Empty, dark, creepy, and he has no idea killer is waiting for him.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: And remember this, y'all, because we'll come back to Frankie later.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Poor Frankie.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Poor Frankie.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, more of Glenn's tape plays.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: He says very frankly, I have a desire to kill.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's wrong.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: I have no problem distinguishing between right and wrong.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's just that I don't care.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: And he giggles like a schoolgirl.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I am not joking.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Go watch the tape if you haven't, y'all, because this man literally giggles like a schoolgirl who just heard like a juicy piece of gossip.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what a fucking creep.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, meanwhile, police track down Glenn's close friend, Craig Shackelford.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Craig tells them Glenn wasn't the same the last time they saw each other, different voice, different behavior.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like he finally snapped.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: And Craig tells officers he has something they need to see.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: He hands over a handwritten letter from Glenn.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: It begins with, Don't ask questions, just do what I say, and continues to instruct Craig to visit a very specific isolated place in the country.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Look under railroad trestles and find a box.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Open the box and follow the instructions, the letter finishes.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: So cops follow these instructions and find a location about three or four miles outside town.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: They find a green ammunition box.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows what's inside.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Sheriff Terry honestly thinks it could be a bomb, but they don't have time to wait for a bomb squad.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: There's a deranged madman on the loose stalking the townspeople like prey.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: So they say their prayers and open the box.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Thankfully, it is not a bomb, but inside are three handwritten letters and a tape.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: It is clearly supposed to be Glenn's final goodbye to the world.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: The letters are to Craig, Glenn's parents, and Glenn's former girlfriend, Kenja Perky.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Kenja is Glenn's former girlfriend, and she discussed their 1988 relationship openly.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: She said that they would have sweet dates at the local park and discuss their future together.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn called her princess.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Kenja says at the time he was funny, fun, and kind, but they drifted apart when she went to college and started chasing her dream of becoming a reporter in New York or Washington.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: The note Glenn left her says, I'm really sorry that I've done this, but on the bright side, here's the story of the decade for you, Prince.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I wondered whether or not that was the point in his life where everything turned.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because it seemed like everybody up till then said that he was smart, good in school, a nice person.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously he was hung up on her for him to leave a note for her.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: And it just seems like something about the end of that relationship snapped whoever was wrong in his brain.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: It definitely seems like that started his downward spiral from everything we know.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but so in another message to his parents, Glenn says, none of this is their fault.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And more of the videotape they found, he says, Mother, daddy, I'm sorry that I ended up like this.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's not your fault.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's nothing you did.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's here, as he points to his head.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's psychological.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: I always wanted to be better at something than somebody else.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: And this is my chance.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to quickly pause the story right here because we literally just recorded another episode, a bonus episode that you guys will be able to hear if you're a subscriber.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: But that was also one of these people's motives.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so many other stories, this is their motive.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be recognized, I want to be remembered for something.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: You guys, you have a choice to do something good.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: You do not need to murder and harm people.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: For people that want to be famous, I mean, if you're trying to go the musician route, the actor route, it's like a one in a million chance of doing it.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas the these people with the the brains that aren't thinking logically are like, it's not a one in a million chance.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: If I shoot up a high school, I know I'll be famous.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess I didn't think about it that way because I don't know.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because our brains don't work like that.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: And also because I have a huge, massive ego.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that I am going to do incredible things and I'm doing incredible things.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um we're gonna be known for this, quite obviously.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're not famous in podcast land.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not gonna be known for murder.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so at school, nobody saw this coming.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Principal Ken Williams says Glenn was a good student, well dressed, carried himself well, looked like he had a bright future.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Lori says he was charming, attractive, and had good hair, which I guess was like a huge thing in the 80s.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: It was in the 80s.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And if you see his hair and the mugshots and the video, it reminded me like a Kevin Bacon and Footloose.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it did.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of hair.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of boy scruffy, mullety 80s hair.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: So in art class, he even created a realistic bust of pinhead from the movie Hellraiser.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: He was incredibly talented at makeup and special effects.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, like I have to ask, Glenn, why didn't you go into special effects for horror movies?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: That would have been a healthy outlet.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: But probably still hard to get into.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: But you you have to work at it.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Perseverance pays off, in my opinion.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you set your mind to it, you can make any of that stuff happen.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So make better choices, y'all.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Work hard.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, Kenja also mentions that Glenn idolized figures like Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and Jack the Ripper.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: During the Satanic Panic of the 1980s.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Satanic Panic, if I ever start a metal band.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's the name.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's probably one already mine.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: It probably is.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: So during the satanic panic of the 1980s, Lori says Glenn was known for claiming satanic beliefs.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Police even found a copy of the Necronomicon in his room, which is a book that provides rituals you can perform to supposedly get closer to Satan.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: It was also rumored that he would drink cat's blood.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Ew, how was he getting it?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't even want to think about it.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: From the cat cult.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: From the cat cult, probably.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, Glenn actually believed that he was the son of Satan, and he called himself Damien.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: And here's something that really stuck with me.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Remember that late McClellan party I mentioned earlier?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Students say Glenn was there.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: They recall him not really interacting, but quietly walking around, observing people with his hands in his pockets.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: One witness said they saw him taking pills.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Not the crazy pills he should have been taking.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Literally.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Those probably would have helped.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: But then suddenly he began vomiting and left shortly after that.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: So do you think it was alcohol or just a buildup of the anticipation?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: I and let me get to this point and I'll answer you.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: So remember earlier uh the attack at Jimmy Britton's house, he also started uncontrollably vomiting then.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is now two times he's having this reaction.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And this is just my opinion.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that his body was telling him something was wrong twice now.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: And he still chose to continue with this sick plan.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: It could have been the cat blood, though.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've never drunk it, but I'd probably throw up.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it could have been the cat blood, the pills, the alcohol that that tracks.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so now on to our next unfortunate victim.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: At 2 45 a.m., the doorbell rings at Ken Williams' house.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Ken Williams is the principal at Panhandle High School as a quick reminder.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Ken looks through the peephole.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's Glenn, but something's wrong.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: He sees Glenn with glowing yellow eyes and describes him as looking possessed.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: He also can't see Glenn's hands.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Something in his gut tells him not to open that door.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to quickly address the glowing yellow eyes thing.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: That piqued my interest.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I did some research.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently the subconscious can project visual hallucinations, such as glowing yellow eyes, onto a person when the observer feels they are in severe danger under high stress or in a state of high alert panic.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: This experience is generally rooted in the brain's survival survival mechanisms and psychological coping strategies.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: So it would have been something in the observer's vision rather than something that was actually part of the Exactly.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Basically the brain trying to protect.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: I should remember that if I ever see anybody with yellow eyes.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Run for the house.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back to the story.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn asks Ken to let him in, and he says he needs to talk about something very important, but Ken refuses.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess Glenn just got impatient at this point because he then fires a gun through the door directly at Ken.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Ken says the first shot feels like being hit with a baseball bat right in his gut.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I just want to say there, what occurred to me was why did he have this 15-minute knife struggle with Jimmy if he had a gun?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he maybe like the knife thing didn't quite go as as he planned.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: He struggled with it and he's like he got sick, so he's like, I need something quicker.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Right, but the gun.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're speculating.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll scoot on back to that when you get to the end because it's relevant to the other part.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we will.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the second shot knocks his legs out from underneath him and he is down.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: But all Ken can think about is his wife and kids.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: He believes that Glenn will kill them all if given the opportunity.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Just then his wife Patty hears the commotion and runs out.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Both of them plug the bullet holes with their fingers to try and stop the bleeding.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was quick thinking.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: Very quick thinking.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: So Patty calls 911 frantic.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: And as she's speaking to them, Ken keeps telling her, tell them it was Glenn Milner.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Right, because he thought he was gonna die, didn't he?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: He said that several times, and he obviously wanted to make sure that they knew who it was because this person's out there.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he said um he thought he was gonna die, and he told his wife, like, I'm not gonna make it.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to go on without me and have a happy life.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, which is so sad, so tragic.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so they lie there terrified that Glenn is still outside while they wait for EMS.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: So now by 3 a.m., as far as the cops know, Glenn has attempted at least two murders, and the full police force is out looking for him.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: With the search still ongoing, astonishingly, Sheriff Terry got a call on the radio that Glenn had been spotted parked outside the Panhandle Police Department.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: This man is literally crazy, y'all.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: He has every cop in a 20-mile radius looking for him, and he parks in front of the freaking police department.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, obviously, Sheriff Terry rushes to the police department, and sure enough, Glenn's vehicle is parked in front, with Glenn inside at the driver's seat and a gun under his chin.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: They wait for backup and finally around 5 a.m., surrounded by officers with guns drawn, Glenn finally lowers the weapon and says, Here I am, you've got me.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't struggle or resist.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: He calmly allowed himself to be detained.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: Later, he claims he didn't kill himself because he forgot the words to a satanic incantation and was afraid about what would happen to his soul.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was crazy.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, dude, you've already committed crimes, murder, attempted murder.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're not coming back from that.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Your soul is screwed.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: But he was like, I forgot the words I was supposed to recite.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and do it like before I kill myself, so that Satan will accept me into his household.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: And do we even believe that?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because this is what, three times that he was gonna try to commit suicide, and it didn't take I mean the words of a crazy person.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Literally, yeah.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was talking to my friend about this, and he was like, I don't think that he ever wanted to commit suicide.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think he wanted attention.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, then how do you explain him driving off the cliff?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because no one knew he would live from that.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Oh, well, maybe he drove the car off the cliff and then walked down there or something and got in it.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, surely not, but maybe he's a fucking psycho.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, after Glenn is finally in custody, everybody takes a big sigh of relief and thinks that this is that this Friday the 13th nightmare is finally over.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: And they kept referring to him as a killer on the loose, and I kept thinking he's not actually killed anybody.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: There's been two attempted murders, but he hasn't killed anybody.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I figured something was coming up.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: So here we go.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody thinks that the nightmare is finally over.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, sure, two people were brutally attacked, but they were expected to make a full recovery.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: They believe at this point that nobody is dead as a result of this tragedy.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: But just then, somebody called dispatch.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: A witness described the location known as the haunted house and said cops need to get out there, ASAP.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Remember Frankie, the sweet 17-year-old soon-to-be high school senior who went out to the haunted house earlier in the day?
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Pepperidge Farm remembers.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: So the police hightail it to the haunted house.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: And horrifyingly, upon entering, they see a pentagram has been drawn into the dirt floor.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Inside the pentagram is a large amount of blood and a deceased teenage boy lying face down.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's Frankie.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Rest in peace, Frankie.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Poor Frankie.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: So he was 17.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: How old was Glenn?
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think he was like 20-ish.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like he wasn't in high school anymore.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: He was an adult, I'm pretty sure.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: So, meanwhile, back at the police station, while Texas Rangers are interviewing Glenn, he fully confesses to Frankie's murder.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: He says he prepared the haunted house for Frankie's sacrifice earlier in the day.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: He drew the pentagram and placed candles all around.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Later, he lured Frankie into his car by promising to hang out and drink beer.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: He said he wanted to be friends.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: And poor Frankie believed this scumbag and went along with it.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: But they didn't hang out and drink beer, of course.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn had no intentions of being friends with this innocent boy.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: He took Frankie to the haunted house and forced him to his knees.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: He pointed a gun to Frankie's head, and Frankie begged for his life.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: But this monster did not care.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: He shot him anyway in the head, point blank range.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn tells investigators he chose Frankie because he thought Frankie was a virgin.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn believed that he needed to sacrifice a virgin so he could spend eternity as Satan's sidekick in his afterlife.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: God, what a horrible, evil, awful, dumbass.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so this is why I was saying about the gun.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: He obviously killed Frankie first with a gun, and then he pulled a gun later.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: So why do the knife in the middle?
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought that was bizarre.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe for some sick reason, like he wanted to see the blood like up close.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a psycho.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn, why did you choose a knife?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's um more exhilarating to be up close and personal with the weapon.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm, interesting.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: And probably went back to the gun after the knife did work.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: So Glenn also confessed to the cops that he planned to kill about a dozen more people.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now, skipping forward to Glenn's trial, Ken Williams says Glenn never took his eyes off him.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: Glenn wanted the death penalty, but instead he was convicted of two attempted murders and one murder and sentenced to three consecutive life sentences.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Lori says every time a Friday the 13th rolls around, she thinks of Frankie.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: She has nightmares of being forced to watch his murder.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: And in the end, this case is a brutal reminder.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Evil doesn't need a big city.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: The residents of Panhandle, Texas will forever remember that it can strike anywhere, even where you least expect it.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean, so many of these stories start off though with it was a quiet little town and nobody expected this to happen.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: To be fair, you don't expect somebody to act like this anywhere.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it's always somewhere where you didn't expect it to happen.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I get that they're saying that big cities like New York's gonna have more violent crime and murders than Panhandle, Texas, but maybe to the rate of people living there.
• 29:30
  unknown: Right.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't think when they say, Oh, you don't need a big city to be evil, or you um, you know, you don't expect something like this to happen there, I don't expect it to happen anywhere.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's more just like life in a small town is just very different.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like everybody knows everybody, and this murderer is like, oh, that's Jim Bob's boy.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, you would never expect it.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I get what they're saying is that it's different.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: But if you've got 2,000 people there and one of them's a murderer, do you think there's one murderer per every 2,000 people in New York?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know what I'm saying?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying statistically wise.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see that it's it's definitely, I think, more shocking to people in small towns and small communities because they just don't experience it.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: And they probably have the mindset of like, oh, I'd never use move to New York because it's it's too violent.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: Or but then there you are, right, in your little hometown of 2,000 people and there it is.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a Glenn Milner.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, those lunatics can be born anywhere.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: So interesting, interesting.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys know of any other Friday the 13th murders that you want us to cover, let us know.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, quickly, I want to mention because I don't think we have yet.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: The reason, in case you guys didn't know, that we're doing this whole Friday the 13th thing is we started our podcast on Friday the 13th last month.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: In February, yeah.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so Friday the 13th now, every Friday the 13th that comes along, we are gonna celebrate.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: We are gonna do special episodes, we are gonna do a giveaway on the Facebook page, and it'll be an anniversary.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: So this is our month.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, I hope you enjoyed this story.
• 31:18
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• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: And until next time, be diva's not deadly.
• 31:26
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