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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 126 | Young Talent We Need to See in Final 3 Weeks · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zam. It's week sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ka Nannie Stevens, and Brian and John are with
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  Speaker 2: me here today as well. We're going to talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about this game in Las Vegas that's coming
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  Speaker 2: up as the Jaguars get ready for their final three
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  Speaker 2: games of the season. So let's start out with big
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  Speaker 2: thing number one, which is time.
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  Speaker 1: There are three.
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  Speaker 2: Remaining games in this regular season, and because there's no
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  Speaker 2: playoff contention for this team, it is time to focus
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  Speaker 2: on the younger players.
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  Speaker 3: From a coaching perspective, gives you an idea of the
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  Speaker 3: type of player that you drafted and you brought on
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  Speaker 3: your team. And then for the player, it gives him
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  Speaker 3: confidence going into you know.
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  Speaker 4: The offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I look back to what Buster did his rookie year
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  Speaker 3: and then the chances he got to play early on
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  Speaker 3: how that catapulted him into this season, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And and and so that's a that's a great.
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  Speaker 3: Example, right and and then even looking ahead, like the
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  Speaker 3: confidence that you see in Tank and the confidence you
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  Speaker 3: see in Brenton. And you know, Anton's been a day
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  Speaker 3: one starter, but the young players that have played Antonio
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  Speaker 3: Johnson's playing more this year and the more or the better.
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  Speaker 3: I should say that they play in these last couple
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  Speaker 3: of games will give them the confidence I think moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Frian, we've been talking a lot about this. Now we're
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  Speaker 2: actually seeing it come to fruition.
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  Speaker 1: And any of those names stick out to you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them do.
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  Speaker 5: The one though, that he mentioned later in the interview
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  Speaker 5: was Trey Prince. And and here's why that's important. Right,
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  Speaker 5: Prince came in as a guy from Old miss He's
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  Speaker 5: got all the trades. He's he's got height, he's got length,
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  Speaker 5: he's got speed, he's got an attitude too. He's still
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  Speaker 5: pissed off that he was drafted in the fifth round.
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  Speaker 5: But he's a guy that's got the traits that can
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  Speaker 5: be a player for you. You want to find out what
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  Speaker 5: he's got because when you go into the the draft
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  Speaker 5: process now next year, do you know if he is
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  Speaker 5: a guy that you can count on? Do you think
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  Speaker 5: he's a guy you can count on or do you
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  Speaker 5: not know anything about it? Well, you'd like to have
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  Speaker 5: some idea because at the top of the draft next year,
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  Speaker 5: or a couple of cornerbacks that you might be interested in.
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  Speaker 5: So knowing exactly what you've got is critically important at
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  Speaker 5: this time of year.
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  Speaker 4: So listen.
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  Speaker 5: Ronald Darby, ten year veteran, helps you win games, not
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  Speaker 5: important right now. I got to see Trey Prince. I've
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  Speaker 5: got to know if he's a guy can go forward.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of know what monterk Brown is. Christian Braswell's
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  Speaker 5: another guy. I'm just using the cornerback position because I
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  Speaker 5: know it's one that people are focused on as an area.
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  Speaker 4: The Jaguars got to get better.
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  Speaker 1: John.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd like to see a little bit of Jefferson
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  Speaker 6: and Prince.
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  Speaker 7: Javon Foster is tempting, but it's awfully hard just to
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  Speaker 7: throw offensive linemen in there if they're not ready. It's
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  Speaker 7: so much cohesion and you don't want to have the
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  Speaker 7: offense not be functional because of one guy. Look, there's
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  Speaker 7: all the draft position versus winning and what matters and
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  Speaker 7: all that, but to me, in the last three games,
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  Speaker 7: really take it for the last five. If they win
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  Speaker 7: a few and they screw up their draft position, forget
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  Speaker 7: the draft position for a second. If they win a
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  Speaker 7: few and you'll love what Prince did, or you'll love
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  Speaker 7: what Mason Smith did, and those guys feel like they're
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  Speaker 7: standing in the locker room and saying I mattered in
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  Speaker 7: this one.
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  Speaker 6: I'm part of this. I feel confident going forward.
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  Speaker 7: If you have nine or ten young guys who get
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  Speaker 7: that feeling of we lifted it, then I think the
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  Speaker 7: draft position losing it is okay. Frank, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 7: pick on Ronald Darby, but if Ronald Darby's staying in
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  Speaker 7: the azine with a pick six and they won the
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  Speaker 7: game because of that and he's not here next year,
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  Speaker 7: then you sort of wonder was it worth it?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, let's go to our second big thing, which is spark.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Mac Jones and the energy
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  Speaker 2: he brings to the field, but he also hopes that
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  Speaker 2: it's spreading to his teammates as well.
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  Speaker 8: So I think we've had some good results here in
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  Speaker 8: terms of like moving the ball and and like you said,
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  Speaker 8: having fun guys making plays and really not letting one
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  Speaker 8: play turn into like a snowball effect. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 8: So just kind of just playing each play one play
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  Speaker 8: at a time and keeping it loose. Whether we did
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  Speaker 8: something good on the first series or something bad. So
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  Speaker 8: you gotta play each play, like I say, always, and
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  Speaker 8: I think it definitely carries over to them. I think
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  Speaker 8: that fits the personalities in the room, myself included, and
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  Speaker 8: the coaches, and it's not been the best season so far,
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  Speaker 8: but we're also still striving for perfection and keeping it
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  Speaker 8: fun and loose and trying to win.
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  Speaker 1: John, we talk a lot about the mac Jones experience.
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  Speaker 2: Some mistakes will be made, but the energy's always there
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  Speaker 2: and it's always entertaining.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, after the game the other day, I've watched the Jets,
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  Speaker 7: I walked into the house and my wife would watched
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  Speaker 7: the game and she said, you know that mac Jones
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  Speaker 7: is cocky. There we go, and she said, but I
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  Speaker 7: kind of wanted him to win. So I think that's
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  Speaker 7: sort of the mac Jones experience in a nutshell. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: he's cocky and he does some weird stuff with the
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  Speaker 7: hand stuff, but he cares about it and he's going
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  Speaker 7: after it, and you get the idea of a guy
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  Speaker 7: who's having fun playing.
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  Speaker 6: So it's all mixed up into one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and listen, it helps with some energy in the room, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you've got three games left and you're not
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  Speaker 5: playing for the playoffs whatsoever, and you need that spark.
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  Speaker 5: It can come from a lot of different places. You
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  Speaker 5: hope it comes from within, but more importantly, when you've
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  Speaker 5: got a quarterback guy that can function, right, I mean
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  Speaker 5: you look at the situation with the Raiders right now.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they are down to Desmond Ritter and they
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  Speaker 5: could have Carter Bradley, maybe Aidan O'Connell, but I mean
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  Speaker 5: they don't have a quarterback that can go out and
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  Speaker 5: function at a high level, which is why they've lost
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  Speaker 5: ten games in a row. Now, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: suggest to you that mac Jones is all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden going to go out and throw for three hundred
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  Speaker 5: yards completing seventy percent of his passes, and he hasn't
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  Speaker 5: necessarily performed at a super high level, but he's playing
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  Speaker 5: better and that gives this offense a chance to function
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  Speaker 5: better and perhaps get a win, and it some valuable
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  Speaker 5: time with these young players having success. Who out there
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  Speaker 5: doesn't want to see Brian Thomas Junior catch more passes
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  Speaker 5: for more yards and more touchdowns. Matt Jones gives you
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  Speaker 5: a chance to do that. And the fact that he
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  Speaker 5: brings that energy, that spark that fun no good for.
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  Speaker 2: Us, Absolutely definitely good for us. Our final big thing
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  Speaker 2: is going to be ball. We do want people that
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  Speaker 2: love to play football, and I think Brenton Strange is
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  Speaker 2: a perfect example of that. We saw him in his
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  Speaker 2: best game career game so far. Without Evan Ingram out there,
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  Speaker 2: he's been getting a lot of the targets and just
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  Speaker 2: his mentality is good.
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  Speaker 1: For the team.
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  Speaker 3: If the players don't have that mindset, or if I
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  Speaker 3: don't have that mindset, it's going to set you back
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  Speaker 3: even further. But if you come into it and you
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  Speaker 3: embrace it, all right, we know, we know our situation,
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  Speaker 3: we got it, we understand that. But I think these
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  Speaker 3: next three weeks really can set us up for the future,
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  Speaker 3: for the offseason, for next year and how we can
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  Speaker 3: build and where we need to add pieces and all
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  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, the development of our roster. But
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  Speaker 3: having guys like Brenton make those comments, I mean, those
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  Speaker 3: are the type of players you want, right You want
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  Speaker 3: those football players that love being here in this building,
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  Speaker 3: soaking up football, soaking up ball, love being on the grass.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the guys that you can build your team around.
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  Speaker 3: And we've one of several, obviously, and many that we.
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  Speaker 4: Have on the team that can do that.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Renton after the game said he loves football and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to find motivation to play in a
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  Speaker 2: season where they don't have playoff contention because he loves
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  Speaker 2: to play ball.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the perfect answer.
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  Speaker 4: No, I loved it.
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  Speaker 5: And the question you had been asked of a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people, I hadn't heard the answer. And then Doug
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  Speaker 5: said he had plenty of guys in that locker room
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  Speaker 5: who expressed that, And I guess it makes sense that
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars have kept playing, they've kept fighting.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't seen quit in them. He must.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was working the locker room yesterday and
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  Speaker 5: I did find guys that expressed it, some of them
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  Speaker 5: on camera, on microphone, some of them off. Trayvon Walker
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  Speaker 5: was one who just point blank said, look, we should
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  Speaker 5: all come in the building every day as if it's
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  Speaker 5: the first day of the season, our first day on
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  Speaker 5: the job, because in the NFL, which is not a
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  Speaker 5: very long career, you.
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  Speaker 4: Better make the most of every moment.
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  Speaker 5: So I did go looking this week and found plenty
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  Speaker 5: of guys in the locker room who expressed the sentiment.
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  Speaker 5: And John, to me, that's really important because we talk
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  Speaker 5: about culture and it's sort of a word that you
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  Speaker 5: can you know, mold to mean whatever you want. But
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  Speaker 5: you got to have a locker room full of guys
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  Speaker 5: that play because they love the game and because they're professionals.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think for the most part they do.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's tough this time of year because you're
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  Speaker 7: probably playing against a team of other people who have ball.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 7: There's a little bit of a you know, are you
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  Speaker 7: trying ninety eight percent or is it one hundred percent?
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  Speaker 6: Every day? Do I love it? Am? I passionate for it?
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  Speaker 7: And I think that can be the difference this time
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  Speaker 7: of year, because it's tough to find that hunger when
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  Speaker 7: you're three and eleven. But I do think there are
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  Speaker 7: guys in this locker room who have it, and I
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  Speaker 7: think the last few weeks will be more chance for
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  Speaker 7: the decision makers to make sure they have guys you
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  Speaker 7: have it.
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  Speaker 5: Enough and for all of those young guys that we
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  Speaker 5: mentioned kai off the top to see what a professional
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  Speaker 5: football season can be like when it doesn't go well,
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  Speaker 5: and to learn and to understand and to actually execute.
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  Speaker 5: Despite the record, It's Sunday, I'm the pro. I come
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  Speaker 5: and play. That's why the last three weeks are so
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  Speaker 5: critically important for this football team.
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  Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on Jagzam.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: and what that matchup is going to look like on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great player, good young player. It's just his
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  Speaker 3: ability to separate, get open obviously, you know, using him
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  Speaker 3: the right way, and just making placeball, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: he's a he's a dynamic tight end.
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  Speaker 2: We have a dynamic working on our team and Brian
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior and now we have a dynamic I would say,
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  Speaker 2: a dynamic tight end to be dealing with as well.
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  Speaker 2: So when you look at that, Brian, what's something you've
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  Speaker 2: seen from Brock Bauers.
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  Speaker 1: It's impressive.
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean just his catch radius. I mean it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't seem to matter where the ball is delivered. And
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that he's got freakishly long arms. He's
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  Speaker 5: just one of those guys who it feels like the
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  Speaker 5: ball is connected to him, John when you watch him play.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, I saw him plenty when he was at Georgia,
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  Speaker 5: and I wasn't quite sure how that was going to translate. Ball.
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  Speaker 5: Looks like he might be first team All Pro. He's
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  Speaker 5: the best tight end in the game by numbers this year.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He strikes me a little like when Justin was here.
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  Speaker 7: Justin Blackman that when the ball was in the air,
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  Speaker 7: he just caught it and he had bitter hands and
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  Speaker 7: he was more powerful than other people. Brock looks like that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm with you and watching him at Georgia. I'm always
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  Speaker 7: a little hesitant when I see a player in college
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  Speaker 7: who dominates physically, because you think, can he dominate physically
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  Speaker 7: against grown men as compared to sometimes you're playing boys.
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  Speaker 6: But boy see I did that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I called a transition and it was very well executed.
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  Speaker 7: He's he's really impressive, and he looks like a tight
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  Speaker 7: end is a position where there's usually a guy in
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  Speaker 7: the league for a stretch, and it looks like he's
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  Speaker 7: going to be.
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  Speaker 6: The guy after Kelsey, you know.
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  Speaker 7: I asked, though, Richard kind of player than Kelsey, but
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  Speaker 7: he'll be the guy.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to the Jacks tight ends coach Richard and
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  Speaker 5: Goolo yesterday Kai and was just asking him about Bowers,
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  Speaker 5: and he gave me a good answer, and then he
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  Speaker 5: looked at me like, did you not expect that? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the people that evaluated tight ends were just so enamored
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  Speaker 5: with him coming out, and all of them were stunned
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  Speaker 5: to see him slide because he's a tight end and
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  Speaker 5: not a wide receiver. But he's one of those guys
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  Speaker 5: that should have been taken much higher.
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  Speaker 2: And we talk about, well, we also, I'm sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just gonna say, we talked about what these guys are
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  Speaker 2: doing on bad teams as well. The Raiders barely have
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback to throw it to him, and he's still
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  Speaker 2: with nine hundred sixty eight yards of both here.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Bowers is a little bit of a of a
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  Speaker 7: cautionary tale because.
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  Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is at the.
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  Speaker 7: Combine last year, he didn't have a great workout, if
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  Speaker 7: he even worked out, but there were questions is he
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  Speaker 7: a little heavy? Is he perfect specimen coming in? And
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  Speaker 7: sometimes when those little things start going onto the combine,
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  Speaker 7: you forget that.
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  Speaker 6: The guy can just play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Right, So, I mean that is another one where I
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  Speaker 7: remember Tom Brady's workout picture with that in the Hall
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  Speaker 7: of Fame.
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  Speaker 6: So maybe doing with this kid too.
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  Speaker 5: If they have any hope of having success offensively.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously Bowers has to be involved. Don't forget.
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  Speaker 5: They took Michael Mayer, the Notre Dame tight end, the
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  Speaker 5: year before in the second route, and he's a very
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  Speaker 5: talented kid. So they've got two guys out there that
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  Speaker 5: can really move in the middle of the field. Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: had Devin Lloyd that crew better have their head straight
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  Speaker 5: because those two tight ends can turn you inside out.
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  Speaker 6: We're always fine against.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do really well against tight ends historically, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that it'll be just fine.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about this offense. Obviously we're
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  Speaker 1: watching it right now, but.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach of the Raiders, Antonio Pierce, said he feels
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  Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell's trending up, so it's likely a game time decision,
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  Speaker 2: but he looks like he could play this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it necessarily matters.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, Desmond Ridder got the start against the Falcons on
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football and that was not very pretty. So
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  Speaker 2: does it matter who plays or we just trying to.
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  Speaker 7: It matters a little because there are different kinds of players.
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  Speaker 7: Ridder is going to run a little more. O'Connell's more
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  Speaker 7: in the pocket and talking to Victor Fours with.
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  Speaker 6: The Athletic Covers the Raiders and.
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  Speaker 7: Said, look, they started off the season with a you
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  Speaker 7: know well, wanting to run, wanting to throw play action
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  Speaker 7: and he said that was an awesome idea when they
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  Speaker 7: had Devonte Adams.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 7: O'Connor is going to be in the pocket and vig
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  Speaker 7: things he'll play. He's gonna be in the pocket. They're
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  Speaker 7: gonna know where he is. He's not mobile. Uh so
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  Speaker 7: it it's a dramatically different kind of game they're.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna play with O'Connell and it would be rare.
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  Speaker 2: There's who we will get out there. It will be interesting, certainly.
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  Speaker 2: Say we let's say we're gonna give you our predictions
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  Speaker 1: Slash Jacks welcome back into jag Van.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best at predicting what the headlines
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be on Monday after this riveting Jaguars Raiders
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  Speaker 2: game in Las Vegas this weekend, at least we'll have
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: a nice backdrop. I'm very excited to see Allegiance Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you predict the headlines they're.
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  Speaker 5: Gonna be brand Well, it has not been a very
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: fun season, but Mac Jones has sort of been the
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  Speaker 5: theme this week. So you know, he had fun last week,
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  Speaker 5: So I say fun in Vegas. Who doesn't have fun
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  Speaker 5: in Vegas? And I just I think.
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  Speaker 4: Mac Jones is the differentiator.
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  Speaker 5: I think he'll be able to execute the offense, and
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  Speaker 5: we saw last week twenty five points in opening drive touchdown,
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  Speaker 5: the kind of things that we didn't think would be
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  Speaker 5: storylines when the season started, but some some offense and
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: obviously Brian Thomas Junior just exploding last week. So I
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  Speaker 5: think the Jags go out and there aren't many teams
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  Speaker 5: that you'd say, well, they're gonna win on the road,
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  Speaker 5: not not a team that's only won three games all year,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: but they've only won two and they've lost ten in
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: a row. So I say the fun thing comes through
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  Speaker 5: with Mac Jones and the Jags have a nice flight home.
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you he's not gonna have fun in Vegas
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: any of us because the league. So you know, I've
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: never been to Vegabe on stage and I've never been
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: to Vegas, and apparently I won't even go this week
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: because he can't go to Sama, which I'm fine with.
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: I went a different direction, and I don't I don't
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: even know if I believe my headline, but I was
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: trying to figure out way to do what happens in
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Vegas stays in Vegas. So I said, what happened in
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: Vegas needs to stay in Vegas. And I don't know
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  Speaker 7: if I believe it, but I think there's a chance
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: that the Jags would go out there. It's almost a
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: West Coast trip. It's late in the season. We've all
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: seen sort of some of the things that happened West
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: Coast with this team historically. I don't know I they
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: believe that translate, but you could see a game where
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: the West Coast trip playoff ramifications. I think they get
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: blown out, but they're flying back and saying we should
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: have won that one and it just didn't happen.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Again.
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: The headline really is more because I couldn't think of
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: anything else other than what happens in Vegas is something.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Historically speaking, the Jaguars had only ever beaten the Raiders
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: on the West Coast. They never won in San Seattle,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: they never won in San Francisco, they had never won
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: in San Diego, and then in twenty twenty two they
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: went out and beat the Chargers. So the only team
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: that they've really had sustained success against on the West
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Coast is the Raiders.
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  Speaker 4: But I agree with Johnny, it could go either way
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: when you got.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: These two teams, I think so too.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I am going to air with positivity and go with
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars. But I said jackpot because I feel like
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: both of these teams had the jackpot with their with
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: their picks in the draft this year. Obviously, Raiders very
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: happy with Brock Bowers. We were very happy with Brian
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior, especially after the last game when the two
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: touchdowns and breaking those rookie records.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Next is to come.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I think there's one more rookie record and then there's
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: a thousand yards receiving and hopefully we'll see as high
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: as we can go in these last three weeks and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: hopefully they've cracked the formulas getting in their football.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Well, I believe he's tied with for the number of catches.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I think he just needs one more catch to break that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: And on that one, which one.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and even beyond the records, because the Jaguars rookie
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: record it wasn't exactly Babe Ruth seven fourteen ninety eight.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: But where he's gonna wind up, it looks like he
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: could wind up with eleven hundred and fifty twelve hundred
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: yards and not ten or eleven touchdowns. That's a really
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: good NFL rookie wide receiver season, and it shows you
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: he's not gonna sneak over a thousand yards. He's got
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: a chance to have a good number, and he's he's
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: going to be really really good.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Touchdowns would either tie or break the franchise record for
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: most touchdowns by a receiver in a season. So that
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: hasn't happened very often.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Record books are calling. We'll see what happens. Enjoy the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: game this weekend. If you're going to Vegas, enjoy the trip,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and we'll be back on Monday or Tuesday to talk
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a little bit about what went down.
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• 18:55
  Speaker 2: because I've forgot how many blocks of the show we
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: were doing today. We do want to talk a little
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: bit about a special moment for one of our Jaguars legends,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Brian Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Rashie Mathis was honored by being named to the twenty
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: twenty five class for the Black College Football Hall of Fame,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: which I guess is going to have a wing in
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Campton. I was
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: texting with him last night and he's the same great
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: guy that he was when he showed up here as
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: a rookie in two thousand and three Englewood High product
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: who came in as a safety and they moved him
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: to corner and he turned out John and I know
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: you were an Indy for most of his career, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: turned out to be just a great football player. Finished
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: with thirty two interceptions, right and he had nine force
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: fumbles you saw that one right there. Five takeaways and
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: fumbles recovered so he has thirty seven career takeaways, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: he had so many big ones against Ben Roethlisberger and
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: this Steelers, including this one in a postseason game that
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: gave the Jaguars an early.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Lead that they never relinquished.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Rashee Mathis was truly a great cornerback for the Jaguars.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Damn good football player and a really good person. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: just I want to follow up with this and tell
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: you how many people run into Rachine and tell me
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: that he's their kids baseball coach, and what a great
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: coach he is. Rashie Mathis a local kid, made good
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and honored by the Black College Football Hall of Fame.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Couldn't come for a better person than Rachine.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I only I think I cover seen two years
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: when I got back in eleven and twelve.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I forget what year he left.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: He left in beat team.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: So but he's one of the guys from that era
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: that I remember thinking, Boy, I wish I'd been around
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: him longer because he was a great player and I.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Really enjoyed being around him. And congratulations to him.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Class At made lots of big plays and key moments,
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: and Jaguars fans remember that was named the Pro Bowl
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: and went wait.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: He was named All Pro one year and much of
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl twice. Should have been more, but he
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: didn't play on a lot of great teams.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: But a really really really.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Good football player, very well deserved. I'm glad to hear it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Congratulations to Mashina and his family.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. Now we are leaving. We hope you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: enjoy the game this
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Week and enjoy Vegas if you're going, and we will
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: be back next week to talk about it.