Latest / Yankees Pod / Discussing Jorge Posada's Comment's About The New York Yankees
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- 0:34SPEAKER_00: All right, we are back, we are back, we are back.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: This is Yankees Pod.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Jimmy, as well as the man, the myth, the legend, two thousand nine World Series champion, Jabba, Chamberlain.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: Jabba, how are we doing today?
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: Good, man.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: Just uh been a lot going on in uh the world of baseball here in the last few days.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: So uh some exciting, some kind of eyebrow raising, some kind of just all over the place.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: So it's uh it's an interesting dynamic of what what baseball world you guys are living in and what we're living in.
- 1:09SPEAKER_01: So it's uh it's gonna be a fun one.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: We're gonna kind of cover a bunch of stuff.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: So I'm excited about it.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: Um, before I even before we talk Yankees, because you've been you've been in on the World Series, been absolutely in on the World Series.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: Um what are your thoughts on last night's game?
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: And then just prediction real quick what you think is gonna happen going forward.
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: Do you think the rebirth get it done, or what are your thoughts?
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, obviously, as a baseball fan, I want to see I want to see as much baseball as possible.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: Um just the uh the series, uh obviously, what's up, Dennis?
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, no, I think it's just from what we saw before in the 10-1 game, and then to have kind of the game of the little back and forth and and have what we thought would be kind of the the series and taking advantage of mistakes and everything.
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: You know, it was funny, you know, looking up stuff and getting ready for this today, and then obviously, you know, doing the the live later, but just seeing how everybody's like, oh, maybe they want to lose so they can win back in Milwaukee.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: No, it's the World Series, they want to win as fast as possible.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: Then people like really freaking out, like, why didn't they bring in Miz?
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: I was like, Well, he's starting, and like it's just people going on about everything, but yeah, I think the game is is obviously you know huge.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: We've obviously seen what people didn't think would be a great viewing market with with two, you know, not huge names and the you know, like the Dodgers or whatever, and just two small market teams.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: But you know, people are interested in it, and you know, it showed with with the numbers and and everybody seeing you know baseball.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: But with this series, you kind of you don't really know what to expect at this point.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: Ms.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: gonna come out, obviously, and you know what to expect there.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: And you know, we'll see how much from the other side, how much Cameron Arrow's foot really, you know, is gonna play a part.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, they haven't released lineups, I don't think yet.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: So is he just gonna DH?
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: Is he gonna play the field?
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: I I think there's a lot to be talked about, but yeah, it's just fun.
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, I'm selfishly as a baseball fan.
- 3:24SPEAKER_01: I would love I would love it to see it go seven games.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know what's gonna happen, you know, kind of how they use the bullpen from the brewer's side, and Ashby only throwing 31 pitches and you know, just the the limit on the bullpen now going 12 innings, and so it's uh it's gonna be a fun one for sure.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm excited.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, get uh get to talk some more baseball and hopefully uh we'll see if we get another game or not.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, check out Jabba's been live with Jarek Robbins and the baseball is dead guys, so definitely check that out as well.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: Jabba's getting after it, guys.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: He's getting after it.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, after it passed my bedtime.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, after your bedtime exactly.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: All right, let's we gotta talk about it.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: We gotta talk about it.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Everybody in Yankees Nation has been talking about it the last 24 hours.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: Uh, Jorge Posada was on Joel Sherman's podcast, and he said straight up that he feels unwelcome by the Yankees.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: He said, I don't think they want me there.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: Jorge Posada said, I don't think that they want me there.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: Now I'm just a fan.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: Love Jorge Posada.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Love Jorge Posada.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: But I mean, we could watch the World Series clips.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: You were pitching to him in the in the World Series and other times.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Um what are your thoughts on Jorge's comments?
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, what are your thoughts on Jore's comments?
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: I'll just let you have the floor.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: Uh I I think it's it's just in a line of a lot of people that I think have have come out and and talked about it.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: I mean, from you know, Hall of Famers to guys that were just you know there for a few years.
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: Uh I I think you know, it's just the standard that the Yankees have set for so many years, and and you know, guys that have been a part of it their whole career, and others that have seen it from afar then have joined, and others that have just seen it from afar.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: I think it just uh you know, everybody's gonna have their opinion and and what they feel like really is going on.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: I mean, Jorge kind of, you know, it's it's interesting to to hear it from somebody like that, and then obviously, you know, read comments of you know, complaining or what he said or certain things with like in 2008 with with Pudge and all the like there's so much more to it that happens in the clubhouse and what people think that they know because they read it, which sometimes, if not more times than not, is not true.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: Um, being behind the fence of a lot of a lot of things that obviously we don't talk about, nor will we.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: Um, people that respect the clubhouse and respect understanding what it is, you're gonna let people talk.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: That is that is the nature of the beast.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: You know, why we have jobs and talking about it, right?
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: Um But I mean, there's there's something deeper to it than I think of obviously, you know, you can bring up the contract talks toward the end of his career, you can you can all that that that happens with everybody that it doesn't matter.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't care if you're Mo, if you're Derek, like if you're anybody, like there's contract negotiations that don't go great.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: I mean, at the end of the day, it is a business, and in the understanding of that is part of it, and some of those conversations aren't always the best or the easiest or fun to have.
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: I that's just the way it goes.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: But when you don't feel welcome, there's something deeper than that, just say, like, oh, I was pissed that we didn't get a deal done, or I gave them a time frame, it didn't get done.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: I'm pissed.
- 7:16SPEAKER_01: That that's one thing, right?
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: That that's that's something to be like, yeah, we all have conversations where it's like, you know what, I am kind of mad about that, but you know what, it's not the end of the world.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: But it's like I I I think it's one of those things where when your parents told you they weren't mad at you, they were disappointed.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: I'd rather you be mad at me and to feel unwelcome.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: And I don't, I don't know.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: You you see all these things that come up, and obviously they they talked about the Yes Network when he did the interview with Gracie Cashman and all these other things.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that doesn't mean anything.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: He came and said it it's the all-firing of Boone and Cash, that that's not it.
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: I it just it I think the common denominator of all these people saying stuff is just you know, accountability and culture and clubhouse and and and different variations of those things and different verbiage, but it's all kind of the same thing.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: And you know, when when you don't feel welcomed in a in a way that you you can express that, I think is is different than saying, yeah, if you bring it up, yeah, I was pissed about those conversations, but at the end of the day, it's you know, I won't spend my entire career here, and that's what I did.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: So I think I think the unwelcome part probably is is deeper than than what it is, and you know, everybody from WFAN to Craig and Carton to I mean everybody, it's national everywhere.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: I mean the New York Post covered it, and you know, it's just I think when the press conference happened and Cash kind of touched on that he had talked to some people, like we're never gonna know who he talked to, but really like who who were those people?
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: Those would that would be interesting to see if it's if it's just a is it a former player or is it staff, is it front office people, is it it?
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: I mean, it could be a array of people, right?
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: But I think in just the way that he said it, I think kind of either pushed people in one direction or the other, like unwelcome, like oh, he's not invited.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's been around, obviously.
- 9:26SPEAKER_01: Um but it's also to some people's choices to be around or to not be around.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it really is, you know, kind of that simple.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, just because you're at an event, just because you're at an event with um, let's say you're at a friend's event, right?
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that you like the other people at the place too, or not everybody.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I mean?
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: Um, and but I want to take because that's the quote that's getting picked up.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: I don't feel welcome.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: And that's and and and that is one thing.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: That's one thing.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: The other thing he said, which I liked a lot, which he says he said, I think I could get more out of the team.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Like, so he wasn't like he didn't necessarily take a shot at Boone or Cashman.
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: There were no direct shots and in any sense, but he did say, like, I could.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: During that part, he did say, like, I could, which means that like, and I said it, I want I want Jore Posada to be the I I said it would be a great manager for the New York Yankees.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just really interesting to see.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but Jimmy, would you want like to look at the other side of it?
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: Do you want do you want that legacy of what he did with as part of the core four and all the other stuff now to come in from the managerial side, and then now you're dog cussing him and booing him too?
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: Like, I I think a lot of people just see because of his legacy, and you know, obviously being a catcher, we see a lot of catchers become managers because they see the game completely different.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: And so I think there is that part of it too, where you know, now it's like, okay, do you bring an ex-player in that especially means a lot to the organization?
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: Where now it's gonna be like, damn him, I don't care what he did, he can't win us, you know, a World Series.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: So I think about that too.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: Do I think he would he would fit in and and definitely bring a different type of mentality for sure?
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Because that was just that's Jorge as a person, that's Jorge, you know, as a baseball player.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: So I think that part too, but I also think from the other side is like, okay, now if it does go sour, did does he get treated differently?
- 11:44SPEAKER_01: You know, and people can look at it from Boone, it's like, oh, if he didn't hit that home run, would he have a job?
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: You know, so no, you're absolutely COVID.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: You're absolutely right, you're absolutely right.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: Because when he got hired, when Boone got hired in whatever 2017.
- 12:01SPEAKER_00: Wow, 2017, um, I was doing the video where I was screaming about how happy I was that Aaron Boone was that guy.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: And again, uh, you know, I was I I mean, at this point I've been I was wrong about that initially.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: Um, I've wanted him gone since 2019, but like you're right, you're absolutely right.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Like, does it does it make sense for Jure Posada to even want to take that job to tarnish his legacy after everything he's done?
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: So I get it completely.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: Um and listen, I get like like the Yankees organization, I just wanted to be more of a family.
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: And listen, like it's just a little crazy to me that this guy who brought championship after championship to this team who helped bring it and was like very stern and he got on people like hard, it just it hurts me.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: It actually saddens me that this is what's going on.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: Like, real like losing is one thing, but like, you know, like your legends not feeling welcome.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: And listen, like, you know, Andy has has a different direction because he's helping the guys, and there are other guys that are like fully bought in, like Paul Neal, and you know, and you have Girardi who's back and who does such a fantastic job.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: So it's not every single one.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: And maybe, and listen, maybe Jorge's a little butthurt about the contract negotiations as well.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: Like, so like it all these things are hard to really talk about because really we it gives us something to talk about, but also at the same time, none of it really matters if you're not winning baseball games.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: So, but like it really does hurt that Jorge feels that way.
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: And I want to just say one other thing, because you're right, like it could tarnish his legacy, but he him and Francisco Cervelli did such an amazing job with that Team Italy or Team New Jersey, basically, what is what it was, uh, to a point where I'm like, hey, maybe we give these guys a look.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that Aaron Boone isn't as good as them.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, like, sometimes you just need a new look and just a different vibe, even that, even if it's a 5% shift, a 10% shift in the mindset, or just, you know, you know, sometimes if uh, you know, if I'm wearing blue all the time, maybe I go to green if if if it's not working out.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, and then um they talked a little bit, like Jorge was like, why do the fundamental mistakes keep on happening?
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think uh we kind of talked about it like, you know, like Aaron Boone could do whatever he he can, but he can't field the ground ball for Jazz Chisholm or you know, do those certain situations.
- 14:54SPEAKER_00: And and listen, I and again, like I we love the Yankees and we only want to say the right things and we want to be a part of it.
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: We love going to the stadium and everything, but it is a little crazy that your core four guy is talking a little bit of trash and uh kind of makes the Yankees feel like I feel like it perks them up a little bit that maybe they need to start taking a little bit more accountability for themselves too, if legends are talking like that.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I don't know.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: Any other thoughts on Jorge?
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: And and and what's your relationship what like with Jorge?
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: Oh, it was good.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was great.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: I think I think you're right too.
- 15:31SPEAKER_01: It's the from the culture side of like just you know, everybody in I get the game's different, people hang out differently than they used to back in the day, and you know, the game has just changed, but I think you know, just this as a whole, I think people are really going down a rabbit hole, like probably more than really I think intended.
- 15:52SPEAKER_01: I Horick probably did you was just saying this that I don't think there was any malice, I don't think there was this to blow up and become like a huge deal.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: I I really don't think he was that was his intent by any means of doing it because you know he does a few interviews, but he doesn't do them a lot, and so I don't think it was necessarily like his goal for that to be like, oh no, it was Joel Sherman's goal.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: It was that was Joel's goal.
- 16:19SPEAKER_01: No, but understand Joel's doing doing what Joel does, and you know, he's he got an interview, he found something, and you know, no fault on anybody's part.
- 16:29SPEAKER_01: That's that's how he said he felt, and and that's how he felt.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: Like, what I mean, take it for what it's worth, but I think a lot of people are really delving into it, and you know, there's you know, you see all the time it's like, oh, well, there was just one from I think Craig and Carton, and he's like, I just talked to Randy Levine, and they were talking about how you know how Handel's losing and this, that, and the other thing.
- 16:51SPEAKER_01: So there's so I mean there's so many, you know, it's like a tree, right?
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: There's the the root was Jorge and this thing, and now there's branches going every which way.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: And I don't think that was really the intent.
- 17:04SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's it's sparked.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: I don't necessarily know if it's controversy, but it sparked definitely some interest in you know what's going on.
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: This is you know, now it's another person that you know with this organization is held in high regard.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: He's saying something now, too.
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: So who knows if they're having if he called and there's conversation that they've had.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: I have no idea, but yeah, it's like the real housewives of New Jersey right now.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: That's what the 80s media has become.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, media is that's what it is.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's the reason we talk about it.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's and we can also like listen, we're just we're just reporting the fact like we could also drum up views if we want to.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: That's not what we're for.
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: We're trying to really find the realistic approach within the organization, and and that's why Job is here because you because I can say, Oh, I want Jorge to manage a team, and then he's like, Well, what if he doesn't succeed?
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: How are you gonna feel about Jorge then?
- 18:04SPEAKER_00: So you have the fan side in me, and you have a man who won a World Series with the team, and and you know, obviously um it means a lot to both of us, so but we want to give you the real facts, and you know, there will be times where we're gonna look for the clicks, but we haven't devised any of that up at yet at all.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: So we're just talking to you how it feels, and I'm happy the job is here that he can you know put me in check when when I lead astray, because some of these fans are like you know 20 times crazier than me, and which is uh saying a lot, to be honest.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, I mean it's it's gonna happen when when the history of what the Yankees are and guys, if it's if it's somebody that obviously doesn't carry weight and says something like this, like I mean, we've obviously and not to not to use him as like the head example, but Clint Fraser says stuff all the time about this, but like you just brush it off because it's like we get you played on the team, but honestly, it just doesn't really matter.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: Like and Clint is Clint, like that's that's who he is.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: But you know, when when you got guys like Derek and Jorge and even David Wells said something, so yeah, you got guys that obviously were a part and did unbelievable things in a Yankees uniform, which which is a lot.
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: Like when you do it with the New York Yankees, it's different.
- 19:31SPEAKER_01: And when you say something especially that holds magnitude of these guys in their name, then definitely it's gonna get talked about, it's gonna get you know drawn through the ringer and and however you want to look at it, but you take it for what it's worth, however you feel about him, or whatever you think is good.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's great we're still talking about baseball, and hopefully we can continue to talk about it, and you know, there's gonna be opinions, but what's great about it too is like let's everybody has one.
- 19:59SPEAKER_01: Like, let's listen to each other.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: Maybe you you have a different point of view than I do where I didn't think about it from that perspective.
- 20:05SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you know what?
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: That you make a valid point.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: It's not just by you're wrong, I'm right, this like biting each other's head off.
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: No, let's talk about it, let's understand where everybody's coming from and and how we got to that point.
- 20:18SPEAKER_01: But getting mad and yelling at each other and calling each other names or saying people are stupid is makes zero sense to me.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you're right.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: We gotta we gotta take a rational approach to this entire thing.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: And like again, we're we're we're we're trying to be as rational as possible.
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: And and you'll know in the upcoming weeks if I'm trying to get clicks or whatever of it it is, because listen, like Java gave us one that he, you know, gave us one good sound about about how nothing changed, but like we could drum up much better stuff.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Craig Carton, that's what he's great at.
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: And no offense to Greg Carton, but I have to say it, I got my Giants thing in the back.
- 20:55SPEAKER_00: Craig Carton said the Giants, unwinnable game.
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: Craig, how do you like us now?
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: JJ McCarthy, how do you like us now?
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: Camp Scadbu, how do you 10 and a half point underdogs, Giants won that game?
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: So Craggy, Craggy, love you, Craggy, work for you, Craggy, but you know, you were wrong there too.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: So let's, you know, some of these people know how to build an audience and gain traction and do all those things.
- 21:21SPEAKER_00: And it's fun, but we do we are trying to bring the realistic approach.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, any final thoughts on the on the I think we hit everything.
- 21:28SPEAKER_00: I think we hit everything.
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, I don't expect anything like crazy or earth shattering.
- 21:37SPEAKER_01: Um, it'll just be, you know, I think kind of as it grows legs and then as those legs kind of just dwindle and fall off.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't think it'll go any further unless something adds on to it.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: And then as that happens, we'll we'll we'll approach it with with whatever um conversation that needs to be had at that point.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Or something will go viral that I retweet or something.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
- 22:03SPEAKER_01: You just you never know.
- 22:05SPEAKER_01: Like I kept it simple, and I was getting everybody was texting me and is like, Holy cow, did you see this?
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: Did you see this?
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: I had a buddy in Michigan.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: He's like, Did you see this was in the post?
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Yeah, I didn't really even say anything.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: I just I just said you literally said nothing.
- 22:19SPEAKER_01: No, I just was stating a fact.
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: I was like, Well, if he's saying it must mean something.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: Like, I I didn't read in to anything, like I finally listened to the interview.
- 22:28SPEAKER_01: Like it, there was excerpts that I listened to, but then finally listened to the whole thing.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: So, but yeah, it's it's interesting.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: Like I said, if it was coming from somebody else, we probably wouldn't be talking about it.
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: Um, all right.
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- 23:53SPEAKER_01: I was sold when they said they worked with Kenny G.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: What's up?
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: I said I was sold when they said they worked with Kenny G.
- 23:59SPEAKER_01: Kenny G.
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- 24:01SPEAKER_01: He put me to sleep so many times.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: When I'm cleaning the house, I'll put Kenny G on.
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: He's he's he really is the best.
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: He really's a great golfer, too.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: There were like 25 names on the list, and I just like picked four.
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: I'm a big hip.
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: I like I like Drake and Nick.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Nicki Minaj and I had the same birthday, so I had a I had a shout out the Queen.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, let's change the subject a little bit here.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: We're gonna move on.
- 24:28SPEAKER_00: Um, Chris Kirschner of the Athletic does a phenomenal job.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: Really, really great job.
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: Um, he broke down his offseason plan for the New York Yankees.
- 24:40SPEAKER_00: And and we've touched on a few of them, but I'm gonna read the first one, which we already agreed on.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: Uh give Dave Bet Dave give David Bednar the qualifying offer.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: Um, he posted a 2.39 ERA in 94 innings since joining the Yankees.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: Um their offer, I think, is like I think the offer sheet is$23 million for the qualifying offer.
- 25:07SPEAKER_00: But what do you do here?
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: Like if you're playing the GM, do you just offer him the$23 million or do you try to extend him to a few years?
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Uh I think that depending on what they're trying to do, obviously you want to lock him up because that uh you want to have a piece of that puzzle that's already in place.
- 25:28SPEAKER_01: I would venture to say they're I would try to sign him to a multi-year deal, and this is what's going to be very interesting about guys like David Bednar is now with what's in the near future of the bargaining agreement, do you want to get that multi-year deal done before it's over and that then your AAV could definitely like it could be it could change.
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: You never know with what's gonna happen.
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think that's gonna be really interesting.
- 26:00SPEAKER_01: I would I would try to do a two to three year deal.
- 26:05SPEAKER_01: I I think they're uh probably is gonna be a little bit scared with the Devin Williams and stuff like that after they've seen, but Bednar's done it in New York in the postseason and stuff like that.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: So do I think he takes a qualifying offer?
- 26:20SPEAKER_01: I I it's I've never been in this situation of what looms coming up.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: And hey, you know what it's a guaranteed 23 if I get a qualifying offer, boom, I'm walking out the door.
- 26:34SPEAKER_01: Or hey, do I wait and see what happens to get a multi-year deal where you know now I'm I'm I might get 36 and and see how that plays out.
- 26:44SPEAKER_01: I could see both happening realistically.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously, just offering him the qualifying doesn't necessarily mean he has to take it.
- 26:53SPEAKER_01: Um so I could see it going both ways.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: I think that's it's really gonna be a telltale in the you know the first week once they're able to apply and do everything and see kind of which direction it's leaning.
- 27:08SPEAKER_01: And but I wouldn't, especially with Bednar, I wouldn't be surprised if if it was one or the other, because I I think it's just a it's a no-brainer to get him, and whether it's you got to have the conversation and be like, hey, you know, this is kind of the road we're seeing, this is how we're gonna build this.
- 27:26SPEAKER_01: Would you accept this?
- 27:27SPEAKER_01: Would you accept this?
- 27:28SPEAKER_01: I think either way I would be great with because you know you're gonna you know what you're gonna get, really.
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I think 23 million dollars a year for him is a great deal.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: Like, I really do.
- 27:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, especially like, especially like, hey, like if the lockout is till June or July, you're getting like four months of pitching for 23 million dollars.
- 27:50SPEAKER_00: It's great.
- 27:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, same thing with Trent Grisham last year.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: The 22 million dollars for one year looked really, really good for Trent Grisham right now.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: Um, who, you know, and you know, it's so it's interesting.
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: All right, um, point two was let Jazz Chisholm Jr.
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: walk, which we both agreed with.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: So that was an obvious one.
- 28:12SPEAKER_00: The third one was don't hand Anthony Volpe the second base job, um, which I kind of disagree with.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm kind of dude, I don't know what what happens with Anthony Volpe in October, but like I think he really does rise to the occasion.
- 28:29SPEAKER_00: So I I know it's a long season, and I know this this team usually says, well, how this guy does over the 162, but I really believe in Anthony Volpe.
- 28:39SPEAKER_00: Um, if there's only one Anthony Volpe fan left, it's me.
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: Like that that's really kind of where I've been at this point when I was at the game, game three.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: I could just tell.
- 28:50SPEAKER_00: I was like, this kid's gonna do something here.
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: I don't know why, but I had that kind of feel with Anthony Volpe.
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: I might be crazy.
- 28:58SPEAKER_00: I mean, there are a lot of people that doubt Anthony Volpe a lot, but I don't know what's your thoughts on the on the second base situation?
- 29:05SPEAKER_01: I think, I mean, I'm if we're going analytically, I mean, he's had enough at bats, he's had enough of a guess sample size of kind of where he stands.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: Do I think maybe the move to second could help?
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: Uh does it change the scenery, change things?
- 29:28SPEAKER_01: I you know, honestly, I don't know.
- 29:30SPEAKER_01: Um I don't think you just hand it to him.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: I I think it still has to be earned, especially with you know, he didn't have a terrible postseason.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: Um had better at bats, but I I think there's obviously I mean he's still young.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's not old by any means.
- 29:48SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not throwing anything away, right?
- 29:52SPEAKER_01: I'm I just you know he's not a piece of garbage.
- 29:54SPEAKER_01: Like he's he's a talented kid.
- 29:56SPEAKER_01: I think you know, there's more for him to not only grow defensively at the plate, but just the understanding of who he is as a baseball player.
- 30:05SPEAKER_01: I think that's that's hard when you get thrown into it so fast, and you know, the the standards of like who they think you can be, and sometimes they just don't happen.
- 30:16SPEAKER_01: But you're still a great player, you're in the big leagues, like don't forget that.
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: And I think you know, I think he's got a shot, but I think he has obviously be more consistent and earn like and not only just earn it, but like really, really genuine it where it's like you just you kind of have to be like, you know what?
- 30:37SPEAKER_01: All right, this is his, like it's it's yours to lose.
- 30:40SPEAKER_01: It's not we're not handing it to you, like you took it, and now we have to take it from you.
- 30:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and listen, I don't have a problem with him being the guy there, but like I I also don't have a problem with uh with Chris saying that um they shouldn't just hand it.
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: And you agree with Chris, don't just hand him the job.
- 30:59SPEAKER_00: If he earns it, he earns it.
- 31:01SPEAKER_00: Um, what do they say?
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: Earn your pinstripes?
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: Earn your pinstripes.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: Um and then uh laterally, uh the number four is try Luis Garcia Jr.
- 31:12SPEAKER_00: at second or third base, um, which is an interesting thought.
- 31:17SPEAKER_00: I mean, hey, and during 162-game season, you can try a lot of things.
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I mean, I guess you could kind of have Anthony and Luis kind of battle off at second base, or I don't know really about him playing third base.
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: What were your thoughts on that one?
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know what?
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: I honestly I haven't seen him play enough defense.
- 31:37SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, they've obviously talked about it, um, not in in real depth about it, but it's been a little shit.
- 31:44SPEAKER_01: I just don't know if he's consistently played at one position enough to know where you know he fits in best at.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Uh I would I would like to see him play.
- 31:54SPEAKER_01: And if that does, I think the more guys you can have creates flexibility in in a lot of ways, especially with you know, guys getting older on the roster and and trying to move and shake to make sure that you put the best lineup, but also defensively, you know, are at top tier as well.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: So I think he probably just needs to see the field more positionally wise, but I don't know where that fits in.
- 32:19SPEAKER_01: Obviously, if he can hit the way that he did, you're gonna find a place for him.
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: That I mean, that's just kind of the the nature of the beast.
- 32:26SPEAKER_01: If you can swing it and you know, have good at bats, and you know, he he was one we didn't know really know what was gonna happen when when he came over, and you know, to uh to great surprise that it it it played played well, and I think you know now we kind of know a little bit more and in handling obviously the pinstripes and all the other stuff, what he can do, you know, positionally from from the defensive side, I think is gonna be the next step for him.
- 32:51SPEAKER_00: Cool.
- 32:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just gonna run through these.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: Um convert Carlos La Grange into a reliever.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: Gee, Jabba, did anybody say that about four or five months ago to you on this very podcast?
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: I think some people are listening.
- 33:06SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, yes, of course.
- 33:09SPEAKER_00: Yes, we both agree on that.
- 33:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it but I mean it goes back to two.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: If that's what you're gonna do, you keep them there.
- 33:15SPEAKER_01: You don't go back and forth, you don't do all that stuff.
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: If that's if that's the route you're gonna take, boom, you stick them there and be like, hey, this is this is the route we're doing, we're not going anywhere else, and make sure it stays that way because it just it's tough to to do both make them happy, and especially as a young kid, where you're not gonna you can't you don't have any leg to stand on to tell them no, and then you know now they're doing whatever, and I'm I'm it's not like I'm lying.
- 33:40SPEAKER_01: I went through it, like I physically went through it myself.
- 33:43SPEAKER_01: Um it's hard, it it really is, and and you want to cap on exactly how good his arm is to uh to help you win, and so whatever it is, whatever they decide, I just hope it stays in that direction, stays in that lane, and once it's done, he just forgets the other one and then takes the bull by the horns and just goes goes for it.
- 34:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we'll talk more about that next week because I would like uh like a we'll deep dive dive deeper into that, but it's just pretty funny because uh you know we were we were talking about this in June, literally.
- 34:21SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, um sign a right-handed catcher.
- 34:24SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, sure.
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: Well great.
- 34:26SPEAKER_00: Uh like okay, the sky is blue.
- 34:29SPEAKER_00: Um, pursue Adrian Moran Marahan?
- 34:33SPEAKER_00: Morahan?
- 34:34SPEAKER_00: Adrian Moran, who yeah.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: Morishon.
- 34:37SPEAKER_00: Morishon.
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: Morishon, thank you.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, we should pursue Mason Miller as well.
- 34:43SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so of course.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: Um call Houston about Isaac Parades and or Jeremy Pena, which is an idea.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know why Houston would want to do that, but it's an idea.
- 34:58SPEAKER_00: Um try trading for Steven Kwan.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: Now I'm gonna halt here because I I I did want to talk about Stephen Kwan because I listen, past two offseasons, I've said let's get Steven Kwan.
- 35:12SPEAKER_00: Thought about it more.
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: Why the hell would a team that just made the ALCS trade one of their best players?
- 35:23SPEAKER_00: It doesn't really make sense.
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know he's gonna get what$13.1 million dollars probably in arbitration next year, and we could do like a conde soto uh esque deal, but like I don't know.
- 35:37SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 35:37SPEAKER_00: That means that you're trading Spencer, Jason, or Le Grange, and that's the only way you're getting that done.
- 35:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're not you you're not trading Carlos.
- 35:48SPEAKER_01: I think it's one of those other guys.
- 35:50SPEAKER_01: They're gonna they're gonna want obviously a big league ready guy.
- 35:54SPEAKER_01: Um that one will be interesting too because their front office said they expect him to obviously be a huge contributor towards their team.
- 36:01SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously there was some mention of it, what, like a week, week and a half ago.
- 36:05SPEAKER_01: Uh so what would he add a different dynamic to the lineup?
- 36:09SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, 100%, without a doubt.
- 36:11SPEAKER_01: Um are they willing to give up pieces?
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: That's that's kind of where we've been with some names, is you're gonna have to give up something to get something.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: So I is it time to, you know, would you give up Dominguez for for in something else with with knowing it maybe his potential?
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, the guy had a nickname before he was even in the big league, so um hasn't really lived up to that.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: So I I don't know.
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: You're gonna have to to get to get those guys with success in tenure in the big leagues, you you're gonna have to give up something.
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: And I don't know that we've seen that they haven't been willing to do that, you know, as of recent.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: So that one that would be do I think he's an upgrade?
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: Yes, no matter no matter which way you look at it.
- 36:57SPEAKER_01: He can he can do a lot of things on the baseball field defensively and offensively.
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: So um it would be nice, but you're gonna you're definitely gonna have to give something up, like you said.
- 37:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then I saw somebody uh said that they wanted Steven Kwan on the team, but they weren't gonna bat him first.
- 37:12SPEAKER_00: So, like, if you get Steven Kwan, like if you somehow get Steven Kwan on this team, you're batting him first.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: Period.
- 37:20SPEAKER_00: Stop.
- 37:20SPEAKER_00: This team has needed a one-hitter for so long, and I know the new thing to do is to put the you know, your best hitter first kind of vibe, but like it'd be really nice to see Quan Rice judge.
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: Like, that would make me feel warm inside to get those guys back to back to back.
- 37:40SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the final thing that he said um is don't overreact to the race success.
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: Um avoid copying whichever team just made a postseason run.
- 37:53SPEAKER_00: That sounds like Brian Cashman.
- 37:55SPEAKER_00: That sounds like Brian Cashman wrote the article when it's like, oh, don't owe, hey fans, don't overreact.
- 38:00SPEAKER_00: We're gonna react.
- 38:02SPEAKER_00: We're going to react to that.
- 38:03SPEAKER_00: Uh Chris Kirscher really does a great job.
- 38:06SPEAKER_00: Uh, so I I just wanted to talk about that.
- 38:08SPEAKER_00: Gave us some few things to talk about.
- 38:11SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I just don't I just don't like when people tell me not to how to react.
- 38:15SPEAKER_00: That you know, like uh I'm gonna get upset that the Rays are in the World Series.
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get upset that the Blue Jays were in the World Series the year before that.
- 38:24SPEAKER_00: Um Jabba.
- 38:27SPEAKER_00: I've been tweeting about Tariaki's Sato every single day.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: I I've been deep diving on this guy.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: I know that he almost wanted to quit baseball in high school.
- 38:41SPEAKER_00: I know that uh he had 208 RBIs in the last two seasons, that he played all 143 games, that this year he had 39 home runs, 106 RBS.
- 38:54SPEAKER_00: I am taking a deep dive on this guy.
- 38:56SPEAKER_00: And the thing that I really want this guy, I want him because A, the culture of baseball in Japan is so excellent, and I think these guys are flawless over there.
- 39:09SPEAKER_00: So adding somebody like like Sato, I think is an absolute no-brainer.
- 39:14SPEAKER_00: Then I don't think enough people are talking about that.
- 39:17SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to lead the charge, but like the Yankees desperately need a hitter.
- 39:23SPEAKER_00: Thoughts.
- 39:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think obviously the last big international we had was Tanaka, and we've seen how that turned out.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: Uh I I think it's it's one of those things for me.
- 39:38SPEAKER_01: I I love the dynamic that they bring it because it's such a it's such a global touch to the game of baseball.
- 39:45SPEAKER_01: And we know how much it means, you know, to the to the Japanese culture of of what baseball is.
- 39:52SPEAKER_01: And we've obviously had some great players that have came over here and left their legacy and their mark in in Major League Baseball and all over.
- 40:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, with what's recently happened and Hideki going back to be the Giants manager and you know where he started his career and and all the stuff that he did here, and you know, just being able to uh to translate that over here with what they've done in Japan.
- 40:16SPEAKER_01: I I think it's it brings so many new sets of eyes, a different engagement of what they've done there.
- 40:25SPEAKER_01: And I mean you're adding you're adding to a position that uh as everyone well knows that needs a little help.
- 40:32SPEAKER_01: So getting him obviously is a huge part, I think that that should be one that is focused on to get him to fill that spot that's really been empty for some years and some consistency.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's always you don't know if it's gonna translate, but we've seen lately, you know, it it has been translating from the offensive side.
- 40:56SPEAKER_00: So I had so many people tell me last year that Murakami wasn't gonna work out.
- 41:03SPEAKER_00: I had so many people, so Jabby, you don't understand these guys.
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: Oh, Murakami can't play third base, he strikes out too much.
- 41:12SPEAKER_00: Well, you know what the what they were saying about Murakami last year?
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: He can't hit a fastball.
- 41:17SPEAKER_00: That was the report on Murakami last year.
- 41:20SPEAKER_00: And listen, I'm I've a pretty good track record with guys that I've wanted to bring in.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: Like, this is a guy you have to go, and and and the slight on Sato now is that he's not great defensively at third base.
- 41:34SPEAKER_00: Well, we have a guy that's great defensively at third base that made an error in the ALDS, and his OPS was 600.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: So change it up.
- 41:45SPEAKER_00: Give this guy 80 million dollars.
- 41:47SPEAKER_00: Like, what is the worst thing that's gonna happen?
- 41:50SPEAKER_00: That you have to trot Ryan McMahon out there.
- 41:52SPEAKER_00: That's the worst thing that's gonna happen.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: So I think that like that is something that's on our table.
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: We don't have to trade anyone, you just have to offer him more money.
- 42:00SPEAKER_00: And I think that I think that has to be the move.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: I really do.
- 42:05SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, you're not because you're not giving up anything.
- 42:08SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously you're you're paying him, but you don't have to give anything up and it fills fills a hole, and you know, where do you slot him in?
- 42:15SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a lot a lot more protection, you know.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: Everybody, oh, what what can he do?
- 42:19SPEAKER_01: What can he do?
- 42:20SPEAKER_01: Well, he's obviously done enough to get to us to even have the conversation.
- 42:25SPEAKER_01: So um, I mean, I don't I don't think no disrespect to him whatsoever, but I don't think he's gonna turn out to be a K Gala.
- 42:32SPEAKER_01: No, you know, as far as as far as living up to his contract, granted, K's wasn't huge, but I think just based upon you know the the videos that I've seen and and bringing now, obviously, there's the the analytic people be like, oh, his swing doesn't translate because of whatever, but you can say that about anybody and you know, just get him over here and see.
- 42:53SPEAKER_01: But and it fills such a huge hole and it extends the lineup for sure.
- 42:57SPEAKER_00: Thousand percent.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: You could put him fifth, you can put him sixth, like that would be so sick to have him there.
- 43:03SPEAKER_00: And then I'm gonna continue doing it, I'm gonna continue tweeting at the Yankees, telling them how badly I want Sato in 2024.
- 43:11SPEAKER_00: We wanted Soto, and now we want Sato in 2026.
- 43:16SPEAKER_00: Um, we already talked about Steven Kwan, and I did want to mention one other thing about Kwan.
- 43:22SPEAKER_00: The baseball uh operations guy, uh um Chris Antonetti, said, as we sit here today, we're expecting Steven Kwan to be part of a contending team next year.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: Uh so you know that that is something that I just wanted to touch on.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: Um, we hit Dominguez, Jones, and LaGrange.
- 43:45SPEAKER_00: Um, and listen, this is one I wanted to say too.
- 43:50SPEAKER_00: And I I love Michael K.
- 43:52SPEAKER_00: He was there for me when my mother passed away.
- 43:55SPEAKER_00: He had a nice message to me.
- 43:57SPEAKER_00: Always will stick up for Michael K.
- 43:59SPEAKER_00: But Michael, when you are talking about Hal Steinbrenner versus George Steinbrenner, and you say that he cares as much as as George, come on, man.
- 44:13SPEAKER_00: That's a come on.
- 44:15SPEAKER_00: That's a Dan Lebetard, highly questionable comment from Michael K.
- 44:19SPEAKER_00: And I love again, I love Michael K.
- 44:22SPEAKER_01: I yeah, it's he might.
- 44:25SPEAKER_01: I think it's just he may, in a sense.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: I think it's just the probably what more so he meant is the way he shows it is a little bit different.
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 44:36SPEAKER_01: Um, and I and I got George towards the end, but he you you still knew he cared.
- 44:41SPEAKER_01: Like it it was still you he wasn't always in the clubhouse.
- 44:45SPEAKER_01: Like I've heard plenty of stories before, and how many times you were fired, and then you just showed up the next day because he had too much going on to forget that he even fired you.
- 44:54SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think it it probably was more so like he just he treats it different than his father did.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: Um you know, I think there's only gonna be one George.
- 45:04SPEAKER_01: Uh, I don't think you can ever recreate what what he did and how he did it in his own way.
- 45:11SPEAKER_01: Um just a great man, did a lot of things that people didn't even know about, um, which is really cool to hear those stories because you you don't always hear them.
- 45:20SPEAKER_01: You always hear about you know how you know he's a hard ass and this, that, but he cared.
- 45:24SPEAKER_01: He you know, he cared about winning and and you see you know how he did it.
- 45:28SPEAKER_01: And obviously a lot of people didn't agree with him all the time, like hey, get rid of this person to get the best free agent, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
- 45:36SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think I think Michael was probably more so it's it's a different, it's a different way of showing that that you hate losing.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: I because I don't realistically, I don't as a human being, as a competitor, as as anybody in life in general, I don't care.
- 45:52SPEAKER_01: You don't like losing at anything, it's just how you how you show it and how you portray your sense of caring.
- 45:59SPEAKER_01: Some people care a lot, and it's just you could tell if they lost or won, but you know that they care, or there's you know, the ones that wear it on their sleeve that you know if it if it's a good day or a bad day, yeah.
- 46:09SPEAKER_00: And again, again, I just I just just don't say that.
- 46:14SPEAKER_00: You can say how cares a lot, just don't say that because George Steinbrenner literally like he said, breathing is first and winning with second.
- 46:29SPEAKER_00: So like I just want again, again, Michael K is a we're gonna get Michael K on soon, and I'm sure he'll give us a laugh with it too.
- 46:37SPEAKER_00: Uh, really good guy.
- 46:39SPEAKER_00: Um final thing we're gonna talk about, or we have two more things to talk about.
- 46:43SPEAKER_00: Um one of them, I get in these little moods sometimes, like because I think about the I think about the Yankees 24-7, 365.
- 46:54SPEAKER_00: It's the it's the only thing on my mind.
- 46:56SPEAKER_00: Um, and um, you know, I did tweet out that if the Yankees don't make if the Yankees do not win the World Series next year and Aaron Boone is extended, I'll be handcuffing myself to Yankee Stadium, who's with me.
- 47:18SPEAKER_00: And um I'm kind of at that breaking point where it's like just show me something else, show me a different color, or but what you know, what are your thoughts on that?
- 47:28SPEAKER_00: Was going a little viral this week.
- 47:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's the greatest of ideas.
- 47:34SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, you might spend a couple days in jail, but um we'll figure a way to get you out.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I think, I mean, figuratively and literally, I don't I don't think you're probably alone on that on that statement.
- 47:48SPEAKER_01: Um the extension part probably more so than winning a world series, because we know that's hard.
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: Um I think maybe if you rephrased it and said we don't lose the same way we've lost the last few years and they extend Booney, then I think it, you know, it would have been like, oh, okay, that, that, that, here we go.
- 48:06SPEAKER_01: But no, I think it's just people are at its wits' end, and and you kind of see you know, people's feelings and comments and and what have you, but I I don't think you're you're far removed of that sentiment of like, yeah, let's we gotta do something, like let's not lose the same way.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: Okay, you're gonna extend them and we're gonna get the same thing that we've been getting.
- 48:31SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess it also depends on where you're gonna handcuff yourself.
- 48:35SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I was thinking I was thinking the Babe Ruth statue would be or wherever the Babe, you know, where everyone meets in in front of Babe Ruth.
- 48:43SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, you're for sure.
- 48:45SPEAKER_01: You're for sure get picked up there then.
- 48:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 48:47SPEAKER_00: I well, so are we gonna start?
- 48:50SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll start a fun, like it'll be Jimmy's bail money.
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we might have to.
- 48:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's do that.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was in a mood, and I may have texted plenty of guests that we've had on this show that also said that they were like absolutely down.
- 49:09SPEAKER_00: I didn't say for how long I was gonna handcuff myself.
- 49:13SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a little Dave Portnoy esque, to be honest with you, like what he did with the NFL headquarters, kind of like where I kind of got the situation um from.
- 49:24SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm I'm there.
- 49:27SPEAKER_00: If I as long as I don't get my ass beat, like I'll go to jail.
- 49:31SPEAKER_00: I will like I just don't want to get my ass beat, really.
- 49:34SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, we'll we'll talk more about that.
- 49:36SPEAKER_00: But I just you know, sometimes I just fire these things off, and then I'm like, listen, hey, you gotta fire from the hip.
- 49:43SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's that's the thing about this.
- 49:44SPEAKER_01: It's like if you're not being if you're not being true to it, then it doesn't, then nobody really cares.
- 49:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
- 49:50SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, no, there some pretty high-level names said they were down with me.
- 49:55SPEAKER_00: So I mean, listen, I mean, again, it I'll say this much.
- 50:00SPEAKER_00: If the Yankees do not make the World Series, if they don't make the World Series, it's a thousand percent happening.
- 50:07SPEAKER_00: Uh listen, and Jabbo will have to come protect me, maybe.
- 50:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no, I'll probably I'll probably be live filming it.
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably, probably.
- 50:17SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, and then final thing, and we didn't really mention it.
- 50:23SPEAKER_00: Um I dressed up as Ted Lasso for Halloween.
- 50:28SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't usually wear the glasses every week.
- 50:30SPEAKER_00: It's not a terrible look, though.
- 50:32SPEAKER_01: Um, don't hate it.
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: Not and you have good hair, so thank you.
- 50:37SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
- 50:38SPEAKER_00: Um, so we're gonna close um with the belief sign.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: Um we are gonna close with the belief sign.
- 50:46SPEAKER_00: Um I'm trying to think of exactly what I'm gonna put it on today.
- 50:52SPEAKER_00: Um, you know what?
- 50:53SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be believe and I've been talking about it.
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: Believe and mine today is gonna be to sign Sato.
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: Believe and sign Sato.
- 51:13SPEAKER_00: Jabba, what was yours that you came up with today?
- 51:16SPEAKER_00: Mine's adjustments.
- 51:19SPEAKER_00: Believe and adjustments.
- 51:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 51:22SPEAKER_01: Because you can't you can't stay in the same path.
- 51:25SPEAKER_01: You gotta have adjustments somewhere.
- 51:26SPEAKER_01: I'm not and that I just said adjustments.
- 51:28SPEAKER_01: I didn't say change.
- 51:29SPEAKER_01: I just said adjustments.
- 51:31SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 51:31SPEAKER_00: So we'll write down sign sato, we'll write down adjustments, and I will uh get more out of you on that next episode, but we're gonna do we're gonna do sign sato and adjustments.
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: We're gonna put it to the wall.
- 51:57SPEAKER_01: Sweet door, Jimmy.
- 51:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're gonna need to uh there you go.
- 52:02SPEAKER_00: Uh well, I have this AI camera.
- 52:06SPEAKER_01: Um isn't it supposed to follow you?
- 52:08SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 52:08SPEAKER_00: I it did not follow me there.
- 52:10SPEAKER_00: Uh so believe in Saintsato, believe and adjustments.
- 52:18SPEAKER_00: Uh that is all for Yankees.
- 52:21SPEAKER_00: Any final words, Jabba?
- 52:22SPEAKER_00: Any final thoughts?
- 52:24SPEAKER_01: No, I mean it'll be interesting to see kind of what comes of obviously the Jorge thing.
- 52:30SPEAKER_01: Um, if anything, peeks its heads and valleys.
- 52:34SPEAKER_01: Um, but right now it's kind of literally a stalemate of of what's gonna happen.
- 52:39SPEAKER_01: Wait till the world series gets over and then some stuff's about to jump off.
- 52:44SPEAKER_00: Great.
- 52:45SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
- 52:46SPEAKER_00: No, uh from my end, I just want to give a shout out again to our sponsor, Untouchable Events.
- 52:52SPEAKER_00: Go follow them on uh Instagram at Untouchable Events.
- 52:57SPEAKER_00: On Instagram, I'm working with them.
- 52:59SPEAKER_00: I got my dad on the phone.
- 53:00SPEAKER_00: He has some memorabilia.
- 53:02SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do some giveaways.
- 53:04SPEAKER_00: I have the t-shirts that we're gonna do giveaways.
- 53:06SPEAKER_00: Just whatever you do, follow Untouchable Events on Instagram.
- 53:10SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh shout out to Lucas behind the scenes or uh killing it all day.
- 53:16SPEAKER_00: And Jabba, go have a great time watching the World Series.
- 53:20SPEAKER_00: Um, and we'll talk next week.
- 53:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hopefully, no extra innings so I can get a good night.
- 53:24SPEAKER_01: This I need I need all the beauty sleep I can get for this thing.
- 53:29SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
- 53:30SPEAKER_00: Until next time, see you later.