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- 0:00Welcome to the show.
- 0:00I'm Claire Monroe with Edwin Carrington,
- 0:02and Edwin, I want to start with a hiring mistake that feels painfully
- 0:06common: the candidate had the resume,
- 0:08had the answers, had the polish...
- 0:10and then three months later the team realizes the real problem wasn't
- 0:14skill.
- 0:14It was behavior under PRESSURE.
- 0:14Yes.
- 0:18And that's why bad hires are so expensive.
- 0:21Not usually because someone couldn't,
- 0:23say, use the software or learn the process.
- 0:26It's because nobody tested how they handle conflict,
- 0:29ambiguity, repetition, setbacks.
- 0:31Interviews are often very good at measuring prepared stories.
- 0:35They are much weaker at showing you consistency on a tired Thursday
- 0:35afternoon.
- 0:35That
- 0:41phrase -- "a tired Thursday afternoon" -- that's gonna stay with me,
- 0:44because it is so specific.
- 0:46So this is where personality assessments can help...
- 0:49but not as some magical thumbs-up or thumbs-down?
- 0:49Exactly.
- 0:53Personality should be DECISION SUPPORT,
- 0:56not a verdict.
- 0:57It is one input.
- 0:59A useful one, sometimes a very useful one,
- 1:01but still one input.
- 1:03The mistake organizations make is treating an assessment like a judge's
- 1:07ruling, when really it should function more like a dashboard light.
- 1:11It tells you where to look more carefully.
- 1:11A dashboard light,
- 1:14not a gavel.
- 1:15That's clean.
- 1:16Okay, so if we're talking science-backed personality,
- 1:19we're really talking about the Big Five,
- 1:21right?
- 1:21We are.
- 1:22The Big Five gives you five broad trait domains: conscientiousness,
- 1:28emotional stability -- sometimes framed as the opposite of neuroticism
- 1:32-- extraversion, agreeableness,
- 1:34and openness to experience.
- 1:36For hiring, conscientiousness matters a great deal in many roles because
- 1:41it relates to reliability, follow-through,
- 1:44organization.
- 1:45Emotional stability matters because pressure changes behavior.
- 1:49A person can sound composed in a 45-minute interview and still unravel
- 1:54when priorities collide.
- 1:54Wait -- conscientiousness and emotional stability.
- 2:00Those two, specifically, seem to show up everywhere.
- 2:03Is that because they get at the stuff interviews fake most easily?
- 2:03In
- 2:07part, yes.
- 2:08Interviews can reveal communication,
- 2:10maybe judgment if they're structured well.
- 2:12But stress tolerance, day-to-day consistency,
- 2:16teamwork under strain -- those are harder to see in conversation alone.
- 2:20Traits don't tell you everything.
- 2:22But they can reveal likely patterns.
- 2:25That's the key word: likely.
- 2:27Not destiny.
- 2:27So if I'm a hiring manager listening right now,
- 2:32what's the first practical move?
- 2:33Not "buy a test." Something before that.
- 2:33Good.
- 2:37The first move is to define the ROLE OUTCOME before you choose any assessment.
- 2:42Ask: are we trying to predict job fit,
- 2:45team dynamics, or leadership risk?
- 2:47Those are different questions.
- 2:49If you don't know what decision you're trying to improve,
- 2:52the assessment becomes theater.
- 2:52Assessment theater.
- 2:55I've seen that.
- 2:56A team says they want "culture fit," and what they really mean is,
- 3:00"I liked talking to this person."Yes -- and "culture fit" is one of the
- 3:05slipperiest phrases in business.
- 3:07It often disguises preference as evidence.
- 3:10Better question: what behaviors does this role require?
- 3:14Fast follow-up?
- 3:15Calm customer interaction?
- 3:17Careful analysis?
- 3:19Coaching others?
- 3:20Once you name the behavior, you can map relevant traits to the role.
- 3:20And
- 3:26that's where I get uneasy, because so many teams still lean on type systems.
- 3:29MBTI, DISC...
- 3:31they get used like hiring filters all the time.
- 3:31They do.
- 3:35And to be fair, MBTI and DISC can be useful for conversation,
- 3:39self-reflection, team language.
- 3:41I don't dismiss them entirely.
- 3:44But they are weaker as hiring gates because types are tidy and people
- 3:48are not.
- 3:48Trait models are dimensional.
- 3:51They let you say someone is higher or lower on a continuum,
- 3:54which is much closer to reality than stamping them with a category.
- 3:54The
- 3:59category problem is huge.
- 4:00Once someone gets labeled a "type," everybody starts telling a story
- 4:04about them.
- 4:05And suddenly the story feels more real than the evidence.
- 4:05That's well
- 4:09said.
- 4:10A good assessment process should reduce storytelling,
- 4:13not increase it.
- 4:14That's one reason tools built for workplace decision support matter.
- 4:18A platform like OAD.
- 4:18ai, for example,
- 4:22is useful when it's aligned to job-related questions and used as part
- 4:26of a broader, defensible process -- not as a shortcut to certainty.
- 4:26So
- 4:31the takeaway from this first part is almost...
- 4:33less romantic than people want.
- 4:35No personality quiz as oracle.
- 4:37No "culture fit" as vibe check.
- 4:39Start with the outcome, use the Big Five where relevant,
- 4:43and treat the result as a prompt for better questions.
- 4:43Precisely.
- 4:47Better questions, better comparisons,
- 4:49better decisions.
- 4:50That's the standard.
- 4:50Okay, let's make this concrete.
- 4:54If someone wants to use personality in hiring THIS week -- not six months
- 4:58from now -- what does a sane rollout look like?
- 4:58Start small.
- 5:01Choose one role.
- 5:03Choose one success metric.
- 5:05Then pilot the assessment with current employees before you ever use
- 5:09it on candidates.
- 5:10That sequence matters.
- 5:12If you're hiring customer service representatives,
- 5:15for instance, maybe your success metric is retention,
- 5:18customer satisfaction, or escalation rate.
- 5:21Test the assessment against people already doing the work,
- 5:25and see whether the patterns make sense.
- 5:25I like that -- current employees
- 5:29first.
- 5:30Because if you can't explain the pattern in your own team,
- 5:32you have no business using it on strangers.
- 5:35And "one role, one metric" is memorable.
- 5:37Not twelve roles, not vague "success."Right.
- 5:41Then combine personality with other methods.
- 5:44Structured interviews.
- 5:46Work samples.
- 5:47Cognitive ability, where appropriate and job-related.
- 5:51No single measure carries the whole burden.
- 5:53Together, they give you a fuller picture.
- 5:53Let me try to explain that back.
- 5:58Personality tells me probable tendencies.
- 6:00Structured interviews test past behavior with the same questions for
- 6:04every candidate.
- 6:05Work samples show whether they can actually do the job.
- 6:08And cognitive ability helps with learning speed or problem-solving --
- 6:11depending on the role.
- 6:12Is that basically it?
- 6:12Almost.
- 6:15I'd sharpen one thing: cognitive ability is powerful,
- 6:19but it should be used thoughtfully and in context.
- 6:22For a data analyst role, for example,
- 6:25cognitive ability may matter quite a bit because the job demands pattern
- 6:29recognition and reasoning.
- 6:30But you would still want conscientiousness for accuracy and
- 6:30follow-through,
- 6:35plus a work sample that shows how the person handles messy data.
- 6:35Messy
- 6:40data is the whole game.
- 6:41Nobody gets hired into the clean spreadsheet from a demo.
- 6:44So give me the role map.
- 6:45Customer service, data analyst,
- 6:47people manager.
- 6:47Customer service: look for emotional stability,
- 6:52enough agreeableness to stay constructive with difficult people,
- 6:55and conscientiousness for consistency.
- 6:58Then verify with behavioral questions like,
- 7:01"Tell me about a time you de-escalated an upset customer," and a short
- 7:05simulation.
- 7:06Data analyst: cognitive ability,
- 7:10conscientiousness, and often lower need for constant social stimulation
- 7:14may be perfectly fine.
- 7:16Use a work sample with incomplete or contradictory information.
- 7:20People manager: emotional stability again,
- 7:24conscientiousness, agreeableness in the sense of coaching constructively,
- 7:28and some extraversion can help -- though not every good manager is highly
- 7:33extraverted.
- 7:34Then test judgment through structured interview questions and manager-style
- 7:39scenarios.
- 7:39That distinction on managers is important.
- 7:43"Not every good manager is highly extraverted." I think a lot of companies
- 7:47still confuse visible energy with leadership strength.
- 7:47They do.
- 7:51That's why role-based trait mapping matters.
- 7:54Map traits to the actual demands of the role,
- 7:57not to the personality of the last person who held it.
- 7:57Okay,
- 8:01but here's the cynical listener question: what about people faking good
- 8:04on assessments?
- 8:05Because the internet is full of advice on how to look like the ideal
- 8:08employee.
- 8:08A fair concern.
- 8:10You reduce fake-good responding with consistency checks,
- 8:14behavioral follow-ups, and standardized administration.
- 8:17If a profile suggests exceptional calm and discipline,
- 8:21your interview should probe specific examples.
- 8:24Ask for details.
- 8:26Ask what happened under pressure.
- 8:28Ask what they did when they missed a deadline.
- 8:31And administer the process the same way to every candidate.
- 8:34Consistency is not just cleaner science; it's better legal and ethical
- 8:39defensibility.
- 8:39Legal and ethical defensibility -- there's the part that
- 8:43gets skipped in a lot of casual hiring systems.
- 8:46If a tool isn't clearly job-related,
- 8:49if it isn't applied consistently,
- 8:50if you can't explain why you're using it...
- 8:52you're in trouble.
- 8:52Yes.
- 8:55Hiring systems must be fair, relevant,
- 8:58and explainable.
- 8:59That's why validated workplace tools matter.
- 9:02If listeners want to go deeper,
- 9:04I'd point them toward the Big Five literature,
- 9:06best practices in structured interviews,
- 9:09the research on work samples, and workplace assessment platforms designed
- 9:13for job-related decision support,
- 9:16including OAD.
- 9:16aiAnd if you're ready to stop hiring on vibes go to OAD.
- 9:16ai
- 9:22and try it for free.
- 9:23Pilot it on one role, compare it with your interview data,
- 9:27and build a science-backed workflow that's actually defensible.
- 9:27Because
- 9:31the real question is not whether someone interviews well.
- 9:34It's whether they will work well when the work becomes real.
- 9:37If you'd like help answering that with more rigor,
- 9:40visit OAD.
- 9:40ai for a free trial.
- 9:40Thanks for listening and hear you next
- 9:45time on the Science of Leading.
- 9:45Goodbye everyone.