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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, July 25 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Mark We're now
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Speaker 1: with a masterful run of twenty nine yards and the
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Speaker 1: cluck continues to run. It is Thursday, July twenty Happy
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Speaker 1: training camp. Everyone, This says Jaguars Happy Hour. And now
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Speaker 1: a guy who arrived this morning riding an armored moped,
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Speaker 1: Jay Peace, had a hype man and everything in his
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Speaker 1: name was Joe Fortunato's good welcome in That required a
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Speaker 1: lot of thought. Joe, I'm I'm very impressed. Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadwick. That's Jeff Loguman, Tony Boselli. That was
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado. I just want what's in the armored truck.
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Speaker 1: I don't care, I'm arriving at it. Just give me
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Speaker 1: all the cash in, all the cash, all the cash.
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Speaker 1: I know. The question is is JP, did you have
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Speaker 1: somebody riding on the back holding onto you that jumped
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Speaker 1: off of the moped and then with a megaphone man,
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Speaker 1: that was Joe. That was Joe. Yeah. Remember you ever
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Speaker 1: seen the movie Dumb and Dumber. Dumb and Dumber, by
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Speaker 1: the way, one of the great movies of But with
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Speaker 1: that as we I mean jumping into that, Yes, we'll
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Speaker 1: get to that break it down. The thing that I
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Speaker 1: just thought about that two people that have bothered so
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Speaker 1: bad that he did that. One is obvious Tom Coffin.
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Speaker 1: The other is not as obvious to everyone else, but
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Speaker 1: to me it was is Jeff Walkerman. We saw this
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Speaker 1: one coming up. You're a liar. You sat there and
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Speaker 1: you were so bothered. It's terrible, terrible. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 1: up on the program today. Camp underway Today, we'll break
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Speaker 1: down what we saw on the practice field. Unique and
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Speaker 1: got Way was not on the practice field today. He's
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Speaker 1: not here. We'll get into that. Nick Foles speaks on
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Speaker 1: the opening day at camp. Yes, we'll get Jeff Logaman's
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Speaker 1: thoughts on the Jalen Ramsey arrival yesterday, and we'll go
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League Jaguars back on the practice
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Speaker 1: field today, first day out in training camp twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 1: You know, they were on the field about eight forty
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Speaker 1: five this morning. They were off the field around eleven fifteen.
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Speaker 1: That's a change in schedule. What are you doing the
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Speaker 1: rest of the day. We got meetings and stuff. They
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Speaker 1: go back to the hotel, hot tubs the rest of
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Speaker 1: the I was trying to figure that out. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: it's eleven fifteen. I guess you go eight by twelve thirty.
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Speaker 1: Only in the context we used to meet until ten
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Speaker 1: thirty at night. Now that's that's like like you're getting
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Speaker 1: on because you're gadating now the offensive line. I'm just
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Speaker 1: telling we did. We were meeting until at least ten o'clock. No,
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Speaker 1: we had snack at nine. We did not. We had
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Speaker 1: that check at eleven. Snack was between between ten and eleven.
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Speaker 1: He's getting old. Well even lest even last year, the
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Speaker 1: guys who were on the field for a walk through,
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Speaker 1: it like, wait minute, they still have a full day
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Speaker 1: to one they have doing all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I mean what they they've adjusted the schedule this year,
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Speaker 1: and I know we're gonna talk to Doug when we
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Speaker 1: have him on at five o'clock, but this year he
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Speaker 1: said that he made it a point about tweaking the
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Speaker 1: schedule to change it up, and so he's Doug getting soft.
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Speaker 1: That's the first one. I'd like. I'd like you to
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Speaker 1: lead them to stick around. I'd like you to lead
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Speaker 1: the coaching show with saying, Doug, are you getting soft?
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Speaker 1: Here's here's the there's the reality, it's perfect. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: wrong with is that. In the first two days it's
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote acclamation period, okay, which it means the
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Speaker 1: players cannot be in pads, there's no contact, whereas on
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Speaker 1: Saturday they go to shoulder pads, which is considered uppers,
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Speaker 1: and then Sunday they're in full pads, and so you
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Speaker 1: have two days without pads, which I mean the reality
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Speaker 1: is it's kind of an extension of O. T. A. S.
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Speaker 1: In the minicamp. It's nothing more than that because as
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Speaker 1: you can't do anything, yes, you can't a little bit.
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Speaker 1: They didn't go full team. I mean, you did all
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Speaker 1: that with the restriction, the the false restriction that you're
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Speaker 1: not supposed to be contact and everything. That's agree. It's
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Speaker 1: the same. I'm just that's the one new one. So
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Speaker 1: the first two days quote unquote under the acclamation period
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Speaker 1: is kind of uneventful. So Saturday, I think, in my
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Speaker 1: mind anyways, kind of when things really get started. Pads
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Speaker 1: go on on Sunday, it's full pads on Sunday, uppers
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, which is shoulder pads, iPads, it's contact, it's football.
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Speaker 1: What time are they starting Saturday? Same time? Early same cometime,
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Speaker 1: same bat time, same bat channel. I'll be here a
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Speaker 1: little bit tomorrow on Sunday. I'm not gonna I'm out Saturday.
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Speaker 1: So look, first full padded practice. I got it. I
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Speaker 1: got you. You'll be at the full first paddic practice.
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Speaker 1: I got the that. We're flipping yes, Saturday Sunday, just
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Speaker 1: trading it out. We're efficient. We're being efficient, just like
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Speaker 1: the Jagson camp. They're being efficient with their time. We're
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Speaker 1: being Doug Barrone spoke before practice today Unique and Gotqua
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Speaker 1: placed on the reserve. Did not report list Maron's hands
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Speaker 1: off on the business side. That's only to a point though.
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Speaker 1: It's really part of this business, what goes on. It's
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Speaker 1: the business side of it. I stay out of it.
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Speaker 1: I always have. UM. I've been in touch with Yannick.
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Speaker 1: We've been talking to him. UM and then again it's
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Speaker 1: just between uh Yannick and his agent management contracts. But
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Speaker 1: you know he's working hard. You know he's trying to
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Speaker 1: get this thing done. We're trying to get this thing done. UM.
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Speaker 1: We're excited for him. He's gonna come. He'll be he'll report.
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Speaker 1: I don't know when. I know it'll be before a
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Speaker 1: certain date. So there's a little bit of news here
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Speaker 1: from Doug Barron. He knows he's gonna be in at
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Speaker 1: some point. There's thirty days before the opening game. If
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Speaker 1: you are past that point, you'll miss that season on
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Speaker 1: your career. Basically, so you missed a season on your career.
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Speaker 1: You you missed it, you missed the year's credit towards
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Speaker 1: unrestricted free agency. It's a little bit different. So, and
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Speaker 1: I think it's wrong for Doug to assume that he
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Speaker 1: will be in by that date, which that date is
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Speaker 1: August six, because it sounds like, let's let's explain this.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're not in by August six,
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Speaker 1: then if he if he let's say he holds out
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Speaker 1: to August seven, then he's not an unrestricted free agent
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Speaker 1: at the end of this year. He still gets his
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Speaker 1: accredited season towards his pension and all the benefits as
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Speaker 1: long as he's on the roster open and plays like
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Speaker 1: three games. Whatever the rule. But unrestricted free agency, which
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Speaker 1: this is a new r this was a new rule. Um,
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Speaker 1: if you're not there, then you lose that year. And technically,
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't show up, he's a restricted free agent.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the year. So the assumption is
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Speaker 1: is that And from a business standpoint, it would be
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Speaker 1: incredibly unwise for in Gockway and his advisors to not
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Speaker 1: have him here by August six, because you want to
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Speaker 1: be able to have the ability to go to free agency.
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Speaker 1: Whether you get tagged at that point, you deal with
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Speaker 1: all that, but you want to get to free agency.
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Speaker 1: But the business side of football, and this is it.
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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of fans don't like the
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Speaker 1: fact that you know he's holding out. He's not here
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Speaker 1: because he quote unquote has a contract. Look, the contract
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Speaker 1: that he has is gonna pay him or schedule to
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Speaker 1: pay him a little bit over two million dollars. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It is absolutely the right business decision buying Gockway to
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Speaker 1: withhold his services until he has something that's more on
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Speaker 1: par for what his value is. So I have no
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Speaker 1: problem with him trying to increase his salary for this
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Speaker 1: year and years beyond. And I think if if any
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Speaker 1: fan doesn't understand that, I get it. But at the
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Speaker 1: same token, if if any fan were in the same position,
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Speaker 1: they should be doing the same thing. Let me ask
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Speaker 1: you a question of Jeff, if you're I mean the
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Speaker 1: risk he runs. And I don't think this is the
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Speaker 1: stance of the organization, but it could be, and they'd
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Speaker 1: have every right. And they said, we're not paying this year.
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Speaker 1: You're in the contract. We'll pay you two million bucks.
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Speaker 1: And if he were to sit out past the seventh,
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Speaker 1: he puts all the leverage right back into them because
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Speaker 1: he's not going to do that. Then they can put
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Speaker 1: because they can say, great, we'll make it und researcher
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Speaker 1: free agent and we can put get draft picks for
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Speaker 1: it next year. Um. So it's interesting. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: reports that came out today is that the Jaguars offered him, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, basically a three year extension. Tom Pella Sorrow
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Speaker 1: was the one who reported it, and year it was
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Speaker 1: like a four year extension to four years. Four years
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Speaker 1: total on the deal, fifty million dollars guaranteed, averaging about
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Speaker 1: nineteen million per year. And here's the reality. If he
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Speaker 1: in fact can get that, that does a tremendous job
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Speaker 1: of boosting obviously this year's salary from what would be
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Speaker 1: a little over two million to approximately on average nine
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Speaker 1: team for those four years. That would be a tremendous
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Speaker 1: accomplishment by in Gockway and his agents and just goes
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Speaker 1: to show that the but he turned it, he turned
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Speaker 1: it down. I mean, look, look, here's not talking anymore apparently.
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Speaker 1: Here here's the thing that I will say on that,
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Speaker 1: because he's reportedly that was turned down. Now, these are
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Speaker 1: all reports. We don't know what the facts are. But
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Speaker 1: if in fact that it was turned down, buying Gockway
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Speaker 1: in his camp, I don't have a problem with that either,
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Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Do you think you're gonna get
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Speaker 1: your best deal now or do you think you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get your your best deal in the next week or two.
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Speaker 1: I mean, typically the longer you withhold your services typically
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Speaker 1: is when you get the better deal. But what if
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Speaker 1: what if the Jaguars have to move it all now?
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Speaker 1: They don't have to do anything, They don't have to
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Speaker 1: do that play in for a second, because like I
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Speaker 1: understand that Yawn wants more money, and I don't blame him.
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Speaker 1: I don't want more anything he deserves. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: if I'm a GM managing this team and I have
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Speaker 1: a salary cap, I have I gotta sign, have other
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Speaker 1: guys that need to sign. You know, we you know,
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Speaker 1: whether it's uh Jaalen down the road or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they have a ton of salary cap
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Speaker 1: right now. You just drafted a guy and Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a defensive end as well. Why would
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Speaker 1: you pay more than that when you don't have to whit?
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Speaker 1: Wait minute, Tony, here's the thing. Why would you're talking?
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Speaker 1: Why would you pay more than what the two million? No?
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Speaker 1: Why would you pay more like? I wouldn't you? And
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Speaker 1: I've talked about this. Why would you give a market
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Speaker 1: rate deal right now when you don't have to. I'm
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Speaker 1: just talking business. I'm not listening. I get what Yawn's doing,
10:37
Speaker 1: and I would do the exact same thing. Why would
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Speaker 1: you do that? A paying him anything like? Number one?
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Speaker 1: He's worth it. That's what the going rate is for
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Speaker 1: a player of his caliber playing. And simple number two
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Speaker 1: is is that, Uh, if you don't pay it, you're
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Speaker 1: probably gonna have a player who's not very happy and
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Speaker 1: long term you're not gonna have him because when he
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Speaker 1: has the ability, if he doesn't get treated right, maybe
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Speaker 1: he's just gonna get the free agency and says goodbye,
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Speaker 1: see you, franchise. I'm just talking to pure business side Francis,
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Speaker 1: you and I both know that that's that's not the
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Speaker 1: way you do business. I mean, if you wanted to
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Speaker 1: be a shrewd. Because there's a team that does business
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Speaker 1: like that that wins Super Bowls every year, the Patriots,
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Speaker 1: that's how they do business. But they have Tom Brady
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Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick. I'm just I'm just saying, as you
11:27
Speaker 1: look at it, for those that don't have that. Pittsburgh Steelers,
11:33
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steels will let guys go at the drop of
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Speaker 1: a hat as soon as they feel like the values
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Speaker 1: too high. They pay. They paid Antonio Brown last year
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Speaker 1: or whatever, when they didn't even have to know, not
11:45
Speaker 1: two years ago, two years ago, when they didn't have
11:47
Speaker 1: to know they had a year left exactly. But my
11:50
Speaker 1: company's businesses, you don't do that. As soon as it
11:53
Speaker 1: was time to move on the player, time to move on,
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Speaker 1: ye like way past time to move on to maybe
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Speaker 1: on bell Is another guy that was way past time
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Speaker 1: with him. He gave him no choice. My point is
12:04
Speaker 1: they didn't move, They didn't budge. They said, this is
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Speaker 1: all we're paying. If you don't like it, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: This is a situation. I'm talking from the pure business side. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars, cap is not. It's not like
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Speaker 1: you have a plethora of cap space. You have to pay.
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Speaker 1: In my opinion, you should pay Jalen Ramsey after this year.
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Speaker 1: You know he's the best. If you're if you're being
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Speaker 1: the hardcore businessman, two years, you got two more years
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and you. I might feel differently next year,
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Speaker 1: depending on how this season goes with j But Jalen
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Speaker 1: Ramsey's the best at his position. I don't think yany
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Speaker 1: can go weight love him. Very good player. I don't
12:44
Speaker 1: think he's the best defensive end of this league. No,
12:47
Speaker 1: I don't think he is either. But I think you
12:49
Speaker 1: could also state the case that the Jillen Ramsey's not
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Speaker 1: the best corner at in the league either. I mean
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Speaker 1: you you have said a better case of being the
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Speaker 1: better the best defensive end. Yes, but let me just
13:01
Speaker 1: flash back to Tony's comments at Patrick Peterson. You told
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Speaker 1: me I believe at one time was the best corner,
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Speaker 1: that j was a rookie two years ago. I said that, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that the last year, the second year, he was the
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Speaker 1: best corner, best corner last year last year, No, it
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Speaker 1: was not the best corner league. Well, I mean you
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Speaker 1: watched I mean what he has asked that he had.
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Speaker 1: He was right there at the top. Is one of
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Speaker 1: the best. But he wasn't okay last year, two years ago.
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Speaker 1: He was the best corner of football period him and
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Speaker 1: a Joy. Is Jalen Ramsey a better corner then Yannickway
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Speaker 1: is a better defensive end? Yes, But but let me
13:45
Speaker 1: let me add this. If you if you look at
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Speaker 1: the number of pressures over the last three years, pressures
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Speaker 1: over the last three years, and Gockway is in the
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Speaker 1: top five in the league, right up there with von
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Speaker 1: Miller and uh Mac And I'm trying to think of
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Speaker 1: who the other one is. And there's one other one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me see, I see this Way and Gino Atkins.
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Speaker 1: But I mean so, I mean, he's right there at
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Speaker 1: the top two now, fabulous player. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: the Jags are from nineteen a year. Fifty million supposedly,
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Speaker 1: which was is more guaranteed than Frank Clark got him
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Speaker 1: pretty sure. You've got like forty six guarantee. Yeah. But
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Speaker 1: the one thing too, that when when you hear reports
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Speaker 1: like that, there's a lot of things that you'd like
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Speaker 1: to know more about when's the payout all those kind
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Speaker 1: of things, and so listen he what Joanna is doing
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Speaker 1: is the right. Thing. Where it gets interesting to me
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Speaker 1: is that the leverage switches back to the Jaguars if
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Speaker 1: they play this out and it goes past August. Because
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Speaker 1: now you're honest to make a decision. Am I gonna
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Speaker 1: play this all the way out? Maybe? I mean, you
14:50
Speaker 1: might be right, But here's the thing. Uh leverages when
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Speaker 1: you get the free agency and at some point the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna have to eat a franchise and or not.
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Speaker 1: And so if they don't franchise in the leverage leverages
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Speaker 1: two years his full leverage is two years away. Maybe
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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars choose not to franchise, or if they
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Speaker 1: choose to franchise. If they choose that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll hear from Nick Foles when we
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Speaker 1: come back on the first day of training camp. You
15:19
Speaker 1: haven't even talked about him yet. By the way, have
15:22
Speaker 1: a nice conversation about You'll say, with everything you said
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Speaker 1: about your unique I think the deal gets done in
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Speaker 1: the next week. I think he's in camp and I
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Speaker 1: third installation of this Jaguars offense, according to Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: training camping. By now it should be knowing and yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, great,
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Speaker 1: how look today? Look good? Look fine? They look good.
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Speaker 1: He look at it. It's definitely tackle them. He's gonna
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Speaker 1: sit back there, not worried about the past rush. It
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Speaker 1: was great. It's a step up from what we've seen
21:51
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. So spirals, he's Heck,
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Speaker 1: you're it. You guys are catching it. I think it's
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Speaker 1: I think it's been interesting to watch because you remember
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Speaker 1: when we had South Pole with us back when the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars sign. Do you remember what he said? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I remember it very specifically that he talked about because
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Speaker 1: I I asked the question of south Pole, which is
22:12
Speaker 1: South Palestonio? Who is is? He still Okay? And he's
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Speaker 1: Philly guy and so he follows the Eagles and knows
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Speaker 1: him very well. And I asked him, I said, if
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Speaker 1: you were the generalmanager, Sal, what's the first thing that
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Speaker 1: you would work towards acquiring for Nick Foles? In His
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Speaker 1: comment was no, he said, uh, big wide receiver. Remember
22:34
Speaker 1: he said, because Nick has a tendency to throw high sometimes.
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Speaker 1: He made the commentary about that and that he would
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Speaker 1: like to get more people around Nick Foles that have
22:43
Speaker 1: I'm rephrasing this, but with catch radius and so what
22:47
Speaker 1: did the stop stop stop stop when you're if you're
22:49
Speaker 1: to use these big football terms, explained everyone listening. What
22:51
Speaker 1: catch radius meant? Imagine? Uh, okay, imagine I'm gonna try
22:55
Speaker 1: to use a couple examples here, like Thomas Linsky. The
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Speaker 1: offensive strength means there's a wider area that you can
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Speaker 1: throw the ball because the length of the receiver, you
23:06
Speaker 1: have a better chance. Length of receiver and alshow the
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Speaker 1: athletic ability. So what did the Jaguars go and do?
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Speaker 1: Chris Cole, Chris Conley, Well, wait a minutelet's not stop.
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Speaker 1: Por is gonna be a mainstay of this offense. No,
23:21
Speaker 1: but I mean he fits that bill what I was
23:24
Speaker 1: talking about about big targets. So, but it's interesting to me.
23:28
Speaker 1: And then, uh, look, I don't know if if Tarrell
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Speaker 1: prior is gonna have any impact whatsoever. But I mean
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Speaker 1: he didn't didn't cost you anything. He might mean great.
23:37
Speaker 1: I mean it's cheap, right, I mean he's probably a
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Speaker 1: veteran minimum deal to come in, so there's no risk,
23:42
Speaker 1: which is funny nowadays with a million, just a million,
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Speaker 1: he's cheap, he's veteran minimum. How we start talking, I
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Speaker 1: let's dig around the couch and see what we can
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Speaker 1: pay Torrell. Yeah, we got a mill here. You will
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Speaker 1: pay him a mill, no signing, but I will give
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Speaker 1: him a box of wheaties as a signing. Bothers crazy
24:06
Speaker 1: to think, but but that's interesting to me that, you know,
24:09
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at what South said
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Speaker 1: and see what the Jaguars have done. It's kind of
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Speaker 1: been right on par So I mean the real I mean,
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Speaker 1: the thing I'm looking forward to with this offense and
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles is that the first few preseason games, probably
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Speaker 1: two and three especially, I mean the first one would
24:27
Speaker 1: be nice to see the whole offense, but seeing what
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Speaker 1: this offense looks like with him back there, because for
24:34
Speaker 1: the last three years, well let's just start the last
24:36
Speaker 1: two years since Doug came the head coach, was all
24:38
Speaker 1: about ground and pound and protect Blake and you know,
24:41
Speaker 1: play action passed but more run based offense and not
24:46
Speaker 1: asked Blake to do too much. Well, now you're spending
24:49
Speaker 1: twenty four million bucks a year at a quarterback who's
24:51
Speaker 1: one of Super Bowl, been an m v P, and
24:53
Speaker 1: you brought in an offensive coordinator got fired because he
24:55
Speaker 1: was not running the ball. I mean, so I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for or to what this it's gonna look like,
25:03
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be It's tough in training camp to
25:05
Speaker 1: figure it out because you know, it's all situational stuff.
25:08
Speaker 1: And uh, even when you get the pads on, its
25:11
Speaker 1: still it's still a controlled situation of controlled atmosphere. I'm
25:16
Speaker 1: really That's why. That's the thing probably excites me the
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Speaker 1: most about this football team in this campus and seeing
25:23
Speaker 1: what this offense is. I mean, I have I just
25:26
Speaker 1: don't really know, no, because I mean what, I know
25:28
Speaker 1: what Nick Fols can do. I've watched and covered a
25:30
Speaker 1: number of his games when he was with Philly. I
25:32
Speaker 1: know what Di Filippo likes to do. You saw him
25:34
Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach with the Eagles, coordinator with the
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Speaker 1: Vikings Um. He has a track record, so you get
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Speaker 1: a sense that it's more of a passing. It's still
25:45
Speaker 1: everyone wants balancing this, like, I mean, the big misnomer
25:47
Speaker 1: is that he likes the Saints, Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, Champaine.
25:52
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh there, you know they lead the league
25:54
Speaker 1: in Russia. Can run the ball? They don't, they lead
25:56
Speaker 1: the league. They actually run the ball more than they
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Speaker 1: pass it. So I mean you still want bounced, But
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Speaker 1: it's how you do it and how you run the
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Speaker 1: ball and the formations you do it out of, and
26:06
Speaker 1: the past being the threat that opens up the run game,
26:08
Speaker 1: which in the passes you're getting eight nine pan eleven
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Speaker 1: man boxes where you know you're running up hill. Were
26:16
Speaker 1: interesting to see what this looks like. There was there
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Speaker 1: was boxes I've never seen here here here's here's the
26:20
Speaker 1: perfect example what you need to know. The l A.
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Speaker 1: Rams came in here and plays goal line defense against
26:28
Speaker 1: the Jaguars base offensive person. You know. Funny thing about that.
26:36
Speaker 1: So that game, if you remember the start of the game,
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Speaker 1: let her broke off back up, My called drewmate was
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Speaker 1: on the staff there, and they worked all week on
26:50
Speaker 1: the six du like run defense, and they for whatever
26:52
Speaker 1: reason I never found out why they didn't start the
26:54
Speaker 1: game they ran their base defense. He would say, they
26:58
Speaker 1: were all so mad at themselves. For the rest of
27:01
Speaker 1: the game they ran six to that that if if
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Speaker 1: there was ever a statement that you needed to truly
27:08
Speaker 1: understand about where this offense was and where it needed
27:12
Speaker 1: to go and why you needed to change at the
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Speaker 1: quarterback position, that game right there is the perfect example.
27:18
Speaker 1: Or is the is the neon sign that says change
27:22
Speaker 1: is needed. We heard more from Nick Foles today about
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Speaker 1: how he shares some knowledge with the offense and gets
27:29
Speaker 1: knowledge from the other side of the ball as well.
27:32
Speaker 1: Right now, after practice, we're away to talk about different
27:34
Speaker 1: things because we've played together, you know, through the spring,
27:37
Speaker 1: so we understand each other a little bit more. So
27:38
Speaker 1: we're able to, you know, talk about the ins and
27:40
Speaker 1: out so maybe you know route running what I'm thinking, um,
27:44
Speaker 1: you know, talking to the dvs what they see. Um,
27:46
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking to the offense guys. I want
27:48
Speaker 1: to see what the defense ses. I want to see
27:49
Speaker 1: like what they're thinking based on our splits, what they're
27:51
Speaker 1: seeing based on my full work. Because I feel like
27:53
Speaker 1: we can make each other better um as a team,
27:56
Speaker 1: because we got a lot of talented players here, so
27:57
Speaker 1: we just gotta keep giving each other each other's It's
28:00
Speaker 1: interesting stuff that you ask a defensive back, Hey, what
28:03
Speaker 1: do you see from this? You know, it's not just
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Speaker 1: an offense and a defense. It's a it's crossing the
28:09
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. But that's pretty I don't want to
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Speaker 1: see normal because I remember I remember when we were playing.
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Speaker 1: Jeff and I worked together all the time and we'll
28:18
Speaker 1: talk about sets and like we're alignment and rushes and
28:21
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking when he's thinking. Roan Clyde Simmons got here.
28:25
Speaker 1: He you know, he he had this move, you know,
28:27
Speaker 1: working the upfield shoulder, and he like talking about my
28:30
Speaker 1: hand placement everything that Tony Brackens and I would talk
28:34
Speaker 1: all the time. We're talking games like what's he doing?
28:37
Speaker 1: What do you know? And anything, because here's the deal.
28:41
Speaker 1: I look like I looked at an offensive tackle for
28:43
Speaker 1: tips and uh, little things that would give me an edge.
28:47
Speaker 1: So when I went against Tony, I would look for
28:49
Speaker 1: those same type of things. And I might say, hey, Tony,
28:51
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28:55
Speaker 1: giving away where you're going, you know, when he was
28:57
Speaker 1: a young player, and then he would say, how old?
28:59
Speaker 1: I mean, make my whole career. I wanted your ship.
29:02
Speaker 1: You always want that in because a lot of times
29:03
Speaker 1: you get into habits that you just don't even realize
29:05
Speaker 1: that join. It's the same thing as a defensive end
29:08
Speaker 1: where I might have a like slight change in my
29:10
Speaker 1: stance to where I give away I'm I'm running what
29:13
Speaker 1: was like an underneath stunt on Tony and he would say, hey, look,
29:16
Speaker 1: you're really giving them away there. I'm trying to work
29:18
Speaker 1: it into that movie, like you're not gonna get there
29:20
Speaker 1: because of the way you're setting it up. You gotta
29:22
Speaker 1: work on field, I mean whatever that we wouldn't always
29:24
Speaker 1: always try to help each other out. And I think, look,
29:27
Speaker 1: Nick's uh, he's a veteran, and here's the here's the difference.
29:31
Speaker 1: I think where he's at and where where this organization
29:36
Speaker 1: was at before with the past quarterbacks that they had.
29:39
Speaker 1: You don't get into you don't get to that level
29:42
Speaker 1: until you understand what offense is and what defense is,
29:46
Speaker 1: and then you can start kind of expanding and fine
29:48
Speaker 1: tuning things. Uh. And I don't think Blake had gotten
29:51
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29:53
Speaker 1: he wasn't capable of getting there, because eventually he probably
29:56
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29:57
Speaker 1: the conversations like that with defensive players. But typically once
30:01
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30:06
Speaker 1: is going to execute it without having to think about it,
30:08
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30:11
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30:15
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30:18
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30:21
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30:23
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30:26
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30:29
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30:32
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30:35
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30:43
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37:38
Speaker 1: settle oh boy for the show next week, so you know,
37:42
Speaker 1: I just you know, everybody just gotta kind of so basically,
37:44
Speaker 1: we're doing the show here and then we're just going
37:46
Speaker 1: to do another show. This is what we do. We
37:49
Speaker 1: settled for Bassilli every week. We even tried to get Prisco.
37:53
Speaker 1: Sounds like the camp. Yeah, it sounds like my wife
37:56
Speaker 1: set away for me. So at the start of the show,
38:01
Speaker 1: we we discussed the arrival of Jalen Ramsey yesterday. Um,
38:06
Speaker 1: he came in an armored truck. Ye, man, that was
38:09
Speaker 1: my favorite, this Armors truck and comes out of the
38:14
Speaker 1: truck and then all the TV cameras are there and
38:16
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Did he borrow Marcel Darius truck?
38:18
Speaker 1: No he did not, Okay, because he has yes whatever
38:24
Speaker 1: on the back and yes, this was not that, but
38:28
Speaker 1: it was a grand entrance to training camp. Um, logs,
38:32
Speaker 1: I don't see you making a bold entrance to training
38:35
Speaker 1: camp like that back in your day as a player,
38:37
Speaker 1: right on the no no, no no, But look, be
38:42
Speaker 1: honest the statement about you know what was what was
38:46
Speaker 1: the guy? What did the guy say with the megaphone,
38:48
Speaker 1: hype man lockdowns? He's got eight pad locks because he's
38:53
Speaker 1: gonna lock down all the receivers in the League's he's
38:55
Speaker 1: they're building a prison. It's Jalen Towers all the receivers again,
39:00
Speaker 1: and then what was pretty much you say, pay this
39:02
Speaker 1: man or something to that effect. Quite I don't think
39:05
Speaker 1: I think they alluded to the whole Brinks truck that was.
39:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of you kind of in a situation. Yeah,
39:10
Speaker 1: it's bags of money and that. I'm like, I'm sure
39:14
Speaker 1: it was fun, but with that's how you feel though,
39:18
Speaker 1: because how I feeling honest about what you thought about
39:21
Speaker 1: the whole production. I think there's been some past entrances
39:24
Speaker 1: to training camps that have been much better. I was
39:30
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown used to have some some pretty good ones
39:32
Speaker 1: going to Pittsburgh. He come in helicopter and well, Sara
39:35
Speaker 1: Goose was the first one that came in with a helicopter.
39:38
Speaker 1: Wayne that I was talking to Leon seriously when he
39:42
Speaker 1: left here and was in Baltimore. He said, Sarah, he
39:45
Speaker 1: said it was funny, said Sarah Goose comes in with
39:47
Speaker 1: be a helicopter, lands on the field, gets out and
39:50
Speaker 1: goes the way in and way he's in a slim
39:52
Speaker 1: four fifteen helicopter. Sara goosel was you know, I mean
39:58
Speaker 1: it was kind of expected at you know, and Reggie
40:01
Speaker 1: Wayne did the same thing. And I guess it's kind
40:03
Speaker 1: of a cool thing to do, but I wouldn't want
40:05
Speaker 1: to pay. But but the front the front man kind
40:08
Speaker 1: of made it interesting. But here's the question that I have.
40:11
Speaker 1: Were people notified, Hey, look um, there's gonna be a
40:17
Speaker 1: grand entrance at the stadium here any minute. You might
40:20
Speaker 1: want to walk outside so we can see this, because
40:22
Speaker 1: I mean, otherwise, how would anybody walk outside to know?
40:24
Speaker 1: The way I understand it is that there might have
40:26
Speaker 1: been a press release of some kind to some of
40:28
Speaker 1: the media. But they were talking to a couple of
40:30
Speaker 1: media folks today. They didn't know what's happening. They were
40:32
Speaker 1: just outside shooting players coming in anyway, and happened to
40:36
Speaker 1: be there, and I think the booster club was set
40:38
Speaker 1: up outside, so they had some tenses. There were some
40:40
Speaker 1: people out there. It wasn't just like he showed up.
40:43
Speaker 1: There was nobody there. I think you knew the cameras
40:45
Speaker 1: are gonna be and they had his own camera crew
40:47
Speaker 1: there too. By the way, yes, did it make its
40:50
Speaker 1: way on social media yet within second millions of yes? So?
40:56
Speaker 1: But I feel like you're tempering your no no, no,
40:59
Speaker 1: I look I have somebody told me and look like
41:03
Speaker 1: that's why I said. I kind of held my thoughts
41:05
Speaker 1: on until I found exactly what was said from the
41:07
Speaker 1: front man, the hype man, whatever his name is. Somebody
41:13
Speaker 1: kind of insinuated that he said something like, you know,
41:15
Speaker 1: it's time to pay this guy. I think that he
41:16
Speaker 1: said something about money, but I can't remember, Okay, And
41:19
Speaker 1: so the whole thing was like that might have been
41:22
Speaker 1: and we not really needed because I mean, everybody knows
41:25
Speaker 1: Jalen is gonna get paid a lot of money at
41:27
Speaker 1: some point. But it was harmless. Look, it's harmless. It's harmless.
41:33
Speaker 1: You know, I would never fun it's harmless. Um, could
41:38
Speaker 1: it have been better? Probably? But that's pretty good. How
41:43
Speaker 1: would you make it better? But let me ask you this.
41:45
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how did Jalen enter the fray.
41:54
Speaker 1: We was he was he making it rain? He had
41:59
Speaker 1: basically commercial and there was a bunch of money bags
42:06
Speaker 1: all in the truck and he got out walking out
42:09
Speaker 1: of the back of the truck. They would have been
42:11
Speaker 1: cool if you like making it rain with Adidas money,
42:13
Speaker 1: that have been cool. Listen. I mean, personally, by the
42:16
Speaker 1: way I'm gonna do, I was in a douce guy
42:18
Speaker 1: way back in that way back. I personally don't care
42:21
Speaker 1: back when they didn't they didn't pay me, they didn't,
42:23
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. Frankly, I don't care.
42:27
Speaker 1: What I love to do this too. They fit me
42:29
Speaker 1: really good, a little bit more narrow cut tony. And
42:32
Speaker 1: the cool thing is you know the black now for
42:36
Speaker 1: this spot, You're no, but James probably gonna slip me
42:39
Speaker 1: a pair of Adidas for it. Alright, fair enough? Um
42:42
Speaker 1: My whole thing is I like Listen, this is the
42:45
Speaker 1: NFL's entertainment business. Professional sports is entertainment. That's what people do.
42:49
Speaker 1: They love it. And and Jalen is a guy who's
42:54
Speaker 1: bigger than life, big personality, having fun with it, having
42:58
Speaker 1: fun with it. Some people say why I make it
43:00
Speaker 1: all about him? I mean, who cares. At the end
43:03
Speaker 1: of the day, it was harmless. It was funny. It's
43:07
Speaker 1: not a big deal. I wouldn't come to work that way.
43:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like dreading camp. I was just
43:13
Speaker 1: coming in here, moping, trying to get to the locker
43:15
Speaker 1: room and get through all the stuff you have to do.
43:18
Speaker 1: But more power to I just it was fine. Like
43:22
Speaker 1: my kids thought, they all thought it was all over
43:25
Speaker 1: social media, it was all over the country. Tell me.
43:27
Speaker 1: I was getting text from people like what is going
43:30
Speaker 1: on with Jaylen? And it's funny to me the camp.
43:33
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is amongst my friends like our age,
43:37
Speaker 1: like half of them were like, trade him, get rid
43:39
Speaker 1: of him. He's a selfish bum. What is he doing? Yeah,
43:42
Speaker 1: because they didn't like how he made it all about them.
43:45
Speaker 1: The other half of like, no, it was great. I'm
43:48
Speaker 1: kind of an old curmudgeon and I'm I'm not even that.
43:50
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I thought it got me watching,
43:53
Speaker 1: and I thought it was that's the point. It got
43:56
Speaker 1: everybody's watching. At this it means nothing. It has zero
44:01
Speaker 1: impact on what happens this year for this team or
44:05
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. It was a moment. By the way, if
44:09
Speaker 1: you're a player and you're trying to market yourself, and
44:13
Speaker 1: if you're trying to build a brand and you want
44:15
Speaker 1: to make you want to maximize your earning power when
44:17
Speaker 1: you can. And so Jalen Ramsey says, I'm gonna maximize
44:21
Speaker 1: the exposure I have and try to make as much
44:25
Speaker 1: money as I can as an independent business person, And
44:29
Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't hurt the team, I'm okay
44:32
Speaker 1: with it. I didn't like the g Q article last
44:34
Speaker 1: year because he made comments about his teammates well, and
44:39
Speaker 1: then he also criticized other players around league that he
44:43
Speaker 1: was gonna be facing. Yeah, and now, if you want
44:44
Speaker 1: to talk junk to other players around the league in
44:47
Speaker 1: a way that wasn't demeaning to them, like their trash,
44:49
Speaker 1: but like in fun fun great. I just don't like
44:53
Speaker 1: when you start talking about your own team in the press.
44:54
Speaker 1: How do you think Tom Coughlin liked to bring I
44:56
Speaker 1: think he hated it. I think it made his skin
44:59
Speaker 1: crawl and it was everything that he hates. Well, I
45:03
Speaker 1: said it pretty good today that he was just like,
45:05
Speaker 1: you know what, once he goes through that gate to
45:07
Speaker 1: come in this building, he's pretty much a model player.
45:10
Speaker 1: He comes in and he watches film. He does things
45:12
Speaker 1: right in the classroom, like he does his job. He's here,
45:15
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's in good shape. Like what else do
45:17
Speaker 1: you want from the guy? Like this is an entertainment
45:19
Speaker 1: he's trying, Like I'm all about these guys maximizing their
45:22
Speaker 1: off field income and do whatever you can as long
45:25
Speaker 1: as it doesn't He just gave him a bump for
45:27
Speaker 1: that guarantee, buddy, guaranteeing. He had like a million something views.
45:31
Speaker 1: That was huge. He should get paid by the view, right.
45:34
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how it works,
45:36
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying it's a company. Would you pay
45:39
Speaker 1: a dollar per view? I'm not. I don't know the
45:41
Speaker 1: metrics of marketing and what that value is and how
45:44
Speaker 1: it translates. What the r O I on that is.
45:46
Speaker 1: I have no idea. We can call us a marketing expert,
45:49
Speaker 1: but you cannot. I don't. I don't think it's fair
45:54
Speaker 1: to look down on a guy who's trying to build
45:58
Speaker 1: his individual brand if doesn't hurt the team. Did we
46:01
Speaker 1: get that on video? It's yes, it's out there, it's available.
46:08
Speaker 1: Do we have it on Jaguars It's available, It's available
46:10
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Speaker 1: run to the outside. It was a tremendous, uh display
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Speaker 1: of the great games in Jaguars history over the summer
52:14
Speaker 1: were reviewed. And however, Sheen though man Uh thirteen years,
52:19
Speaker 1: ten years with the Jaguars played I think a hundred
52:21
Speaker 1: and seventy five games, thirty two interceptions, pretty good thirty
52:25
Speaker 1: two interceptions and the guy who grew up here and
52:28
Speaker 1: and Mathoon hometown product. And I always wondered, and I
52:34
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52:37
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52:41
Speaker 1: the best ball skills of a defensive back that's ever
52:43
Speaker 1: come through here, even better than Jail and I think.
52:46
Speaker 1: But most guys that have ball skills like that and
52:49
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52:52
Speaker 1: I mean, how did he end up as a as
52:53
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52:55
Speaker 1: guys that can't catch on defense, but were seen, had
52:58
Speaker 1: great hands. I mean great hands, great interception master. There
53:05
Speaker 1: was another interception master here today to Deon Sanders was here. Yeah,
53:09
Speaker 1: he was speaking of good corner. Talked with him briefly
53:11
Speaker 1: today the NFL network and they're kind of going around
53:15
Speaker 1: the league and then Dion and other guys are bouncing
53:17
Speaker 1: around a different camps and doing basically a live update
53:20
Speaker 1: or broadcast from every camp. And Dion, I know, after
53:24
Speaker 1: practice interview players Campbell. But man, Dion looks good. It
53:27
Speaker 1: looks real good. And Dion and Keena McCardell, we're having
53:31
Speaker 1: a conversation. Went over and I said hi to Dion
53:33
Speaker 1: real quick and and he does. He looks great, man,
53:35
Speaker 1: he looks he looks fantastic, like almost like he could
53:37
Speaker 1: still play. He's in great shape. Let's go around the
53:41
Speaker 1: National Football League, shall we? And it's the opening of
53:46
Speaker 1: camp most everywhere. A couple of teams were a week
53:48
Speaker 1: or so ago, the teams that will be in the
53:49
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game next week. But in this division,
53:52
Speaker 1: some trouble brewing. In Nashville, Titans left tackle Taylor the
53:56
Speaker 1: Wan could be suspended for games for testing positive for
53:59
Speaker 1: a banned substance. He put out a video yesterday saying
54:02
Speaker 1: that he passed a polygraph tests, saying he didn't knowingly
54:05
Speaker 1: take anything. He will appeal this whenever it goes through.
54:09
Speaker 1: There's apparently a second sample that has to match the
54:11
Speaker 1: first sample before the band is initiated. But boy, if
54:16
Speaker 1: he's gone. Jack Conklin the right tackles coming back from
54:18
Speaker 1: a knee injury, another knee injury, the one last year.
54:22
Speaker 1: He's still he's still it's still coming off a knee
54:25
Speaker 1: injury last season. But he played all last year. But stay,
54:29
Speaker 1: I was two years? Was it two years? I thought
54:31
Speaker 1: he had another injury last year? He played all last year.
54:33
Speaker 1: He missed the first part of the season and played
54:35
Speaker 1: the last half of Either way, it's not ideal. But
54:38
Speaker 1: what you're saying, you know what I mean if you
54:40
Speaker 1: have tackles down, No, no, no, you know Taylor the
54:42
Speaker 1: lawn came out. I saw the video, watched it six
54:44
Speaker 1: games right, four games? Four games, and he basically said
54:48
Speaker 1: like he I give him credit because he said, listen,
54:50
Speaker 1: I own it. According to CBA, where I put in
54:52
Speaker 1: my body is my responsibility, and that's the way it is.
54:55
Speaker 1: He goes, but I did not knowingly take this um
54:59
Speaker 1: post rine. It was one of the supplements and I
55:02
Speaker 1: just pulled it up to try to figure out it's
55:03
Speaker 1: something that helps the testosterone level and it was one
55:08
Speaker 1: of his UH supplements had it in supposedly it's that's
55:12
Speaker 1: the story's telling. Took a polygraph test. I said, he
55:15
Speaker 1: passed it regardless, and he very well can be telling truth.
55:19
Speaker 1: And I have no reason, like why would you come
55:21
Speaker 1: out and do the video and say UH and lie further?
55:25
Speaker 1: But who knows? So let's I believe him. But it
55:27
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if that's the case. The CBA is very
55:29
Speaker 1: clear you're responsible as a player within your body, regardless
55:33
Speaker 1: if you bought it legally and had no idea that
55:36
Speaker 1: it was a tainted supplement. And that's why you have
55:38
Speaker 1: me so careful with these supplements that you buy. And
55:41
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a an insignia on the
55:46
Speaker 1: supplements that guarantees it's like N S A or it's
55:51
Speaker 1: some simple because my son's in college and like they
55:54
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55:56
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56:00
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56:05
Speaker 1: all this it's not FDA regulated, and you have no idea,
56:09
Speaker 1: and they don't have to list everything that's in there,
56:11
Speaker 1: even the crazy thing about this OSTR. And I just
56:14
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56:17
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56:22
Speaker 1: uh Drug Administration or whatever. It's good Jeff or whatever.
56:28
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56:31
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56:35
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56:38
Speaker 1: approved for human use or consumption in the US. It's
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Speaker 1: not approved by the fd A. I mean, so it's
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Speaker 1: not I mean it's not approved for humans. I mean
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Speaker 1: what do they what do they give it to animals?
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Speaker 1: If you like a lot of things, people take the boost. Whatever,
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Speaker 1: it's not FDA approved by the way. Conklin tours knee
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Speaker 1: up in the playoffs this year? Did he again got
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Speaker 1: rolled up? Remember the divisional loss a c L again?
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Speaker 1: So with that, you remember that Jeff Congo tourds A
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Speaker 1: c L again last year in the playoffs. No, no,
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Speaker 1: it was two years ago he did in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: JP al right, either way, I remember it was against
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. He tore up his knee two years and
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Speaker 1: then he ended up on injury reserve last year because
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Speaker 1: of another injury that was unrelated. They didn't make the
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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. To make the playoffs, dude, they were
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Speaker 1: out all right, You're like, you're looking back at your
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Speaker 1: really confusing everybody. Apparently it's just take a deep breath. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: the Redskins. Is this this year? The Redskins have a
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Speaker 1: three way quarterback competition. Yes, at the start of camp
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Speaker 1: they do. Alex Smith is out for the season. They've
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Speaker 1: got Colt McCoy, case Keenum, and Dwayne Haskins the first
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Speaker 1: round rookie. Not quite what they were thinking. Go with Haskins, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: put the kid in. Put the kids then let him go. Huh. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're J Griden, you might not be saying that,
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Speaker 1: because if you don't win this year, you pread on
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Speaker 1: the job next year. The Redskins did something this week
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Speaker 1: that I thought was it lacked couth? They cut lacked.
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Speaker 1: You're digging deep tonight, luck, What do you mean? Well,
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm digging deep. They're great medical terminology. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: a very high class move. Okay, is that better for you? J?
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Speaker 1: They understand that JP doesn't know what year it is.
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Speaker 1: Who are you they cut? I think it's Mason Foster,
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Speaker 1: the linebacker who who had made some disparaging remarks in
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Speaker 1: the past about the team. They just cut them with,
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Speaker 1: And it was a while back, and they just cut
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Speaker 1: them within days of training camp open up. I think
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Speaker 1: that the day of or the day before, like training
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Speaker 1: camp is going to open up, and so this guy
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Speaker 1: is on his way to camp they cut him, And uh,
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Speaker 1: I mean in that kind of week. I mean, to
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Speaker 1: cut a guy right before the Cowboys cut out on
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Speaker 1: Hern's right for a camp. No, but I mean Alan
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Speaker 1: Hearns was injured. No he's healthy. No, No he's not.
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Speaker 1: He's not a pay cut. Yeah, I mean that's that's
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Speaker 1: a little different. I Mean, here's a guy they just
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Speaker 1: flat up cut cut started sixteen games. They cut guys
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Speaker 1: get cut all the time for camp, Tony, not right
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Speaker 1: before camp. Come on, now, okay, I mean look, I
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Speaker 1: mean I'm on the players. Guy, cut him back when
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, No, No, with kooth Free Scoothless will
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