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• Byron: Welcome back to Cut the Cuck. Yes, Chad, go, tell me. ⁓ all right, well, welcome back to Cut the Cuck then. show where we talk about the sport that we both love but probably know nothing about. My name's Byron, that fool over there in that jersey, that's Chad, and ⁓ here Cut the Cuck. Chad: Barn. You go. We are. Where do start? We start with... super am coming up or do you want to recap the rugby or what do want to do Byron: Super reggae. I don't know, I feel like I do it kind of in order and because of the time difference we normally start with Super rugby. But I guess also Sevens technically happened before because it was in Hong Kong and it was a three day comp instead of a two day comp because it's the championship. Why don't we jump ⁓ Sevens real quick because I don't think we need to spend too much time on it. New Zealand won another one which they've just been doing nonstop in the ladies game. Chad: area or topic. Byron: ⁓ it seems a little like unfair at this point. It's always in New Zealand, Australia final, New Zealand normally winning it. And then we just repeat the cycle, competition after competition. So, yeah. ⁓ I massive shout out to, to obviously all the women's ⁓ seven but the New Zealand, the black firms. Incredible. Chad: Yeah. You could say the same about us just winning all the time too. unstoppable. Byron: They're like so far ahead of the other opposition. It's crazy. ⁓ Chad: And I wonder what it is because I don't see many 7s, like there's obviously the women's team, she has the provincial sides at play. I haven't seen any local tournaments or ⁓ Byron: competitions. Now they normally run usually during the off season of the regular ⁓ game. ⁓ a lot of 15s will take part in some sevens tournaments just for fitness during the off season. But I don't think like the smaller comps aren't taken as seriously by ⁓ 15s as those that are in sevens because obviously entirely different game. Still fun to watch though. ⁓ Chad: It is fun. Byron: The ladies, let's box, did not have a great weekend. It sucks, we beat or they beat Team GB in the group stage, but then lost to them the very next game in the knockout. So didn't go well for them, unfortunately. Trying to see here, I think out of the 12 teams they ended, lost, unfortunately. Because we also lost to Argentina in the last playoff. Chad: I saw that one. We also just got internet comp, yeah? We also just went up. Byron: Not a great software. What's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They qualified from sevens too. So their whole goal is to try finish in the top eight, which would then put them in the main competition for next year. ⁓ Not a great start in 12th. Gonna have to make up some points. Hopefully we have a good one next month. Let's see what happens. For the men's side, incredible to watch. We spoke about it last week where we looked at the groups ⁓ and were like, Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: You if you come in at number one seed, you expect it to be a slightly easier route to the knockout stages? At the end of the competition, first place, second place and third place all came from Group A. Chad: Yeah. Byron: The only outlier was New Zealand. I don't know, someone rugby math that one for me. Chad: It's they're just trying to get the best teams playing I guess but yeah no yeah. Byron: Well, it worked. Also, I want to give a crazy thing from there. was watching the quarterfinal we had against Kenya. I don't know if you watched the game, but we were ⁓ score down with like three minutes left to play. ⁓ get a yellow card and I turned it off because I was like, man, fuck. Like, there's no way we're coming back from that. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And as I turned it off, I had the thought, said, why don't you just watch? Because if they come back, you don't want to have missed it. But I was just like so upset by it. But I put it back on and lo and behold, man down, seven versus six, would come back, score two tries in two minutes to win the game. I mean, ⁓ was, ⁓ I'm so glad I turned it back on. Chad: 26? Yeah. It was wild. Byron: But then also I'm like, I'm pissed off that I turned it off in the first place because I should have known better. But I'm still glad I got to watch it. Chad: Yeah, no, it was a good game. I was super worried after that first game after we lost to Uruguay. Was it Uruguay? Byron: Spain. I thought we beat Uruguay and lost to Spain. Give me a second. I've got it up. Chad: We did lose his pain. Byron: We lost to Spain and then... the other game. Chad: I'm crazy, I'm pretty sure I watched the loser euros Byron: Because all teams in that group ended on six points. Now we beat Uruguay, lost to Spain, crushed Argentina. Chad: ⁓ yes. Oh yeah, we just beat Uruguay, that's what happened. I was like, oh, yeah. Byron: Just beat Uruguay, lost to Spain. Yeah, destroyed Argentina, which I thought was crazy. then to play them in the finals, much closer game, but still kind of ran away with it. All three teams ended on six points. Which kind of just shows you how close that group was. We just went through one point difference on top, thank goodness, but still. ⁓ And ⁓ overall, thought a great sevens competition. Good to see the teams coming up, trying to break into the top eight. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you Argentina. Byron: And just shout out to the ladies team. Hopefully they have a better week next, well, better competition next month. And for the men, let's just keep doing the good work because ⁓ can't really be better than winning. ⁓ there'll be two more. The next one is in Spain on the 29th to the ⁓ 31st May. And then the final week will be in France from the 5th to the 7th of June. And that will crown the 10th. Chad: So in the next sevens now. Is it done? God, that'll be good. how lecher would we be playing Simmons in Spain? Byron: Well, the way Spain's been playing, think it's going to be an electric tournament. I think it's going to be awesome. Chad: Not a bit. I hope they keep putting the crowds. Yeah. Byron: Oh, they will. They will. feel like if you look at the rugby crowds, although the stadiums are smaller in like the you can call them like, I guess, tier two rugby nations. I feel like they even though it's a smaller stadium, they still bring a vibe that you don't normally get in other places. Chad: Yeah. You don't need a big stadium to have a big vibe. You can have a big vibe at a local club. Byron: Yeah, I feel like someone needs to tell the lions that because... Chad: Yeah, will absolutely... we've spoken about this before. If you took the Lions and played them at a much smaller stadium, out anywhere, it would be... Byron: That vibe would be incredible. I think that also pull more people if they put it in a place where parking was easy and coming to and from the stadium was safe or at least safer. Still South Africa. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be a game changer. I don't know. Move it. don't know enough about small stadiums, but find one. I think it would be epic, but that's just our stupid opinion. Chad: Yeah, that's the one thing I reckon. There'll be one. Even if, like, one of the ones you do at, like, school athletics when you go to some odd fucking... Byron: It should be at least 2 to 5,000 people. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Yeah, and I feel like they would sell out week in and week out compared to what we're currently looking at. But I feel like we're jumping the gun. That was sevens. Do you want to go into Super rugby? Because I love this week. Chad: We are. It was fucking wild. first game, was 87 points. ⁓ was Absolutely Blues Highlanders 47-40. Byron: It was as if no one wanted to defend. They were just like, whoever wants a line break, you can have it. You just gotta be fast. Chad: Yeah, no it was was really good and then ⁓ Waratah was Moana also good game obviously nothing anything wild but I thought that Moana was going to pull it pull it off Byron: Ugh, Moana. Well, I think it was impressive for them to show up the way that they did, given the horrible news that they're dealing with. Chad: Yeah, I thought that they were going to come out with that game in the um, because at halftime which was like 12, 14 up to Tumawauna, I thought that their passion and the Fijian islands, no, I'm taking all the islands. Byron: Something like that, yeah. Samoan. the whole Pacific Islander. Chad: I thought that that hunger that they have and that fear that they just have. Byron: Yeah, the water tie said, you know, screw you and all of your emotion. We're just going to play better rugby. It was brutal. Chad: Yeah, but even from then it was only really in the last, yeah, from like the 60th minute. So that's how that one ended. ⁓ Hurricanes, another absolute cracker of a game. Byron: at the end. Chad: ⁓ was that who was what they did in the ⁓ super point and the drop goal, Wallace the TT picks up the ball, scores under the poles it was ⁓ cooked such a good game i remember after watching that game so after watching the Chiefs and the Hurricanes and Blues vs the Highlanders I was like can you imagine if they just chuck in another Byron: Yeah. Chad: New Zealand team now that Moana is leaving play in Super Rugby and then it's basically just a ⁓ Zealand heavy Kong, which I mean it really is but more way. Byron: I wouldn't be against it. Chad: But then I saw Kikon Rabianon if you watched him, he made a good point because in all those games there were some big hits going in. they did that and there was just all these all blacks week in week out absolutely hammering each other, there would be no all blacks left, ⁓ be injured. ⁓ Byron: No, I disagree. I think it's balding them for the world's greatest robbery. rugby's greatest robbery. Chad: It is, but yes, they are some... they play so hard. Byron: Because there's, yeah, and I think it's, I'm telling you now, this New Zealand side that's coming for this rivalry is going to be formidable. And I know we joked about it before they got a coach. We're like, oh, no, no, no. I said they can show up from the beach and still be competitive. The way they're playing now, not only are they gonna be competitive, they're gonna be matching us. Chad: Yeah, that's, that's. Yeah. Byron: Stride for stride, tackle for tackle, hit for hit, strength for strength. It's, the more I think about it, the more excited I get. ⁓ Chad: It's... how many days is it away? It starts 123 days from today. Byron: Woo! Chad: Yeah, it's gonna be good. But yeah, Week in, week out. are the two absolute standout games. Other the upset at the end, which... ⁓ Byron: The... Well, before we even get into that, I wanna talk quickly about the Chief's Hurricanes fly-half battle. Chad: Yeah, well it's not just that, it's also the blues too. They're also battling out for who's the best player. It's so weird at moment. Byron: Yeah and I know we always talk you know if New Zealand had Richie Mawanga what would happen. At this point I mean I obviously haven't seen Richie play anything recently because I don't watch the Japanese league. Chad: Dude, the Japanese thinks, wow, he's stupid. He's not, I don't think he's human. Byron: But Ruben Love of all people out of nowhere to be, think, yeah, but not at like when you look at, when you think all blacks fly off, you you go down back in history, obviously everyone thinks Dan Carter first, but you've had Barrett, Mackenzie and... Chad: Yeah. No, he's been solid. Byron: Is there a third or am I imagining a third that has been playing fly off recently? Chad: I'm in love. ⁓ recently, there was another one. I can see his face, can't see his name. But yep, carry on. Byron: There's another one, isn't there? Anyway, like you would just expect it to be more of the same, always the same three people, same two people, whatever it is. The way that Ruben Love's been playing, I can't think currently besides Damian McKenzie, who I would rather have as starting flyer half of the All Blacks, if I were an All Blacks. Chad: Yeah. Byron: As a Springbok supporter, I hope they pick none of them. Chad: I think it's... Yeah, they put your boy Cody Taylor as well. Byron: Somehow you'd still piss me off. Chad: He absolutely would. Byron: him and Will Jordan have the best tip over the top kick combination pairing in World Rugby. Exactly! ⁓ Chad: Well, they're playing together for... Byron: What about druer beats in the Brumbies at home? Chad: Yeah, that was a good one too. I actually thoroughly enjoyed that one. I think that's the first time I've ever beat them, or ever won them. Byron: ⁓ I've actually, I looked this up, it's their first away win. They lost 33 times in a row away from home. That was their first away win. their first win ever in Canberra. Chad: Yes. Yeah, no, that was good. That was a fun watch that one too. The whole weekend was actually really good. Even the next game, the force first crusaders. I can't believe, from what? 19-0? 19-0. And then you lose 31-26 to the fucking force. Like, yesus. Byron: It was a fun watch, wasn't it? I can't believe that happened. You know what cracked me up about that as well was on the pod last week, I joked because I'll be honest with you, I give four shit all the time, okay? Four speed, I'm going back now to week eight. Four speed to Reds, 42.19. The following week, Reds beat Crusaders, 31.26. As a joke, I said, Chad: Thank you Byron: force will beat crusaders because of ragby math. Even when the words came out my mouth I didn't believe them, but I thought it would be funny. Lo and behold! Chad: I think you're manifesting, because some of the shit you say that happens is just unreal. Byron: was like I was, the game ended and I was still like, is, did I just get the wrong stream? Was I watching an old game and no one decided to update me? No, force beat the Crusaders. Chad: ⁓ From an alternative universe. I wonder what that means going to this next round. next week and we'll just go into it anyway. I'm quite keen for this run. It's a super run. All of the games are in Christchurch, new stadium. It's gonna be pretty sick. Byron: an awesome day to be a New Zealand fan who lives nearby. Chad: Yeah, well, even, seen a couple people actually coming flying over to watch ⁓ games, because you can buy three day passes and watch all the rugby, all the super rugby games. ⁓ perhaps that's, you can, but I would have absolutely gone ⁓ I didn't have the two absolute monsters at home. I couldn't. Unreal rugby. Byron: It's gonna be epic. it is, it's three days of amazing rugby. It's like going to ⁓ Craven Week. ⁓ obviously with bigger, better players. ⁓ Chad: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. But can you imagine how that would be if you had last week's rugby at that stadium day after day after day. You'd be... Byron: I'd be exhausted, but I'd be in heaven. Also, how's that church gonna hold up? Chad: Yeah, how good? I know, I was thinking the same thing. Brand new pitch, never been played on. Byron: To be fair though, it's only one game Friday to Saturday to Sunday. Chad: I leave. Byron: But yeah, that pitch. Those are big boys. Those are not small boys. Chad: It's going to be whatever grass they've got growing needs to be tight. Byron: ⁓ Do you want to do predictions? Chad: Sure. Byron: What happens if Chad: and I knew you were going to bring this up even before we started recording. Byron: Because the Tars have been playing so well in comparison to other seasons. And for the first time in a long time, Crusaders and Waratars are next to one another on the log. Chad: looking at now these two points. Byron: Two point difference. And technically, water tiles have a game in hand because they've only played eight, you guys have played nine. How? I don't... Chad: They do. I'm actually, I'm a hurricane supporter. I don't know what you're talking about. Byron: Actually that would make me feel a lot better if that was the case. But, TARS beating the Crusaders in the opening game of the new stadium would just be brutal for local fans for the rest of weekend. Chad: Yeah, they'd be like, nah, take us back to the other one, boys. It's been real for sons. Yeah, you can keep this one for music festivals and all that stuff, but we're gonna just head back down the road. Thanks. Byron: Thanks for all the hard work, but I think we're good. Hahaha Ha Well, your prediction then I guess. I think I know where this is going, but let's hear it anyway. Chad: My page, you did it. I'm not doing them. I did them last week and fucked them all up. I'll read them out. Okay. Crusaders, Voratoss. Byron: Crusaders. Chad: Okay, first, the Brumbies. Byron: I can't imagine a world, well, I didn't even think the hurricanes would lose to the cheeps, but I'm still gonna go hurricanes. Chad: Yeah, you have to. Blues vs. Rates. Byron: Surprisingly a closer game than I think it would be, but I'm gonna go blues. Chad: Great. Holland is Moana. Byron: though they're playing with all that extra geese, I can't see Highlanders losing to Pacifica. Even though it's on neutral territory, I still think it's a Highlander. Chad: and Yeah, and then last game, Chiefs first, BG Indra. Byron: I think Drew will be on a high, but I still think Chiefs will have the floor with him, actually. I think it's going to be a brutal way to end the weekend. Chad: and the book you say the same thing yeah it's gonna be a think McKenzie's gonna run an absolute mark I wonder where they're start him 15 or fly off I don't like him he's much better at 10 hey yeah Byron: He's better at 10. He's better at 10. He's great at 15 because he's just that good, but he's so much better at 10. I think it's because he needs more time on the ball. It's the same as like when they put Will Jordan on the wing. He's great there, but he's better at fullback. He needs more ball time. Chad: Yeah, it's gonna be. Yeah, but he needs to be cool. I was gonna say, like, for the All Blacks you kinda have to have... You can't have Will Jordan at wing... Sounds fucking crazy. Will Jordan at wing, Mackenzie at 15, Richie Mawanga at 10. Byron: Well you can, but if you want the best out of it. It's a lot of star power and it sounds terrifying, but I think not having them in their best positions actually will work more negatively towards the All Blacks. Chad: safe. We will see. Byron: Or you could do what, it the Stormers? The Stormers did it for a little bit, where they had, I think it was Marnie or Sasha at 12, and the other one at 10, and you just kind of chop and change them. The only concern for that is on defense, but on offense, it sounds absolutely horrific. Chad: Yeah. double farf in this fucking year. Okay, let's film. Byron: What you do then, if your sense of the pitch scrum or even a rock, you put ⁓ Mali this side and Sasha this side. Chad: One on each side. But do you, I suppose, yeah, I don't think it works the same for the Springbox, because you've got Ethan Hooker and... ⁓ Byron: Ooh, I've got a lot to talk about, Mr. Ethan Hooker. But anyway, go on. Chad: Yeah, I just don't think it's the same for the box. No. Byron: No, I don't think it will work for the box. Although if there is a team who would find a way for it to be beneficial, it would be the mad scientist that is Rassi. Chad: actually excited to see what bullshit ⁓ he comes up with this year that just blow our minds. That's happened every year. Byron: I say we take a few notes out of the women's springbok team from the last competition. We have a 14-man line-out. We have, we just, we form a mall, offer scrum. So we scrum, pick it up, Athe-man starts a mall. Perfect. That's exactly what's gonna happen. Chad: Just us and do like the 15 men line out here. Can you imagine? love you. Can you imagine? Greatest rivalry comes down last game ⁓ down to the wire rusty 15-man line-out Boys there's only one thing coming ⁓ Byron: No, I say you do a 13-man line-out and you leave Cheslin Colby in the middle of the field by himself. Chad: Clip it and ship it. On the way to Rasi. I love it. I'm in. Byron: Hahaha! Because one on one I say Cheslin beats anybody. Chad: 100 % you... one on one you and Cheslin the ⁓ thing you have to worry about is if your health insurance is going to cover your broken ankles. That's ⁓ only worry. Byron: One-on-one with Cheslin sounds like the worst thing for a defender. Chad: And you know what the other thing about that is, once he sidesteps you and you're sitting there you're like, fuck. You know when you go back in the change rooms all the boys are going to be re-upping into you. Byron: But also, if you do have a 13 man line-out and you do leave Cheslin out there and the other team has to put 13 in the line-out, who draws the short straw and says, I'll mark Cheslin himself? Chad: That's gotta be one of the big boys so that you just have an excuse. Byron: Yeah, like I couldn't keep up with him, sure. But like if it's Will Jordan, I think he can kind of match him for pace. But with that amount of space with Cheslin. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, I actually like this idea of bonus. This is fun. Byron: 13 man line out, Cheslin out by himself. Cause you could mall it and Cheslin's just a distraction. Or you zip a 30 meter pass, give it to Cheslin the other half of the field and that's one on one. Chad: Yeah, I love it. I'm into it. I love this idea. Yeah, tag Russie, do whatever you need to, but let's make it happen. Byron: What did you say? Clip it and ship it? Let's do it. All right, that's super rugby. Looking at the standings, Chiefs and Hurricanes even on points, Hurricanes have a game in hand though. Blues only two points behind them. And then you got Brumbies at 25, Reds at 22, Crusaders at 21. That, only the top six go through. So this Waratah's Crusaders game is massive in terms of knockout placing. Chad: It is. And they, like you said, they've got a game in hand too. Most of the teams do. Byron: ⁓ huh. No, only Cain's and Tarr's who have a game in hand at the moment. Chad: End of rate. Byron: ⁓ shit, you are right, I am wrong. Congratulations. Chad: Yeah. Byron: That's why we keep you around. Chad: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun round. like to say that we know what's gonna happen, but after this week, ⁓ Byron: Also for it to be neutral for everybody except the Crusaders who are also playing there for the first time. So it's hard to call it a home ground. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Hey, who knows what's gonna happen? It's gonna be fun, that's as much as I know. Chad: Okay, see you in the next picture. Byron: Gonna be a good weekend for Super Rugby. URC ⁓ ⁓ spicy at the moment. What a weekend, what a, I wild, wild result. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. It was a lot of fun, a lot of fun also in this game. Byron: Yeah, it was good. I'll just go through some of them real quick. tweaking a win against Zebre. 31-30, ⁓ not I was expecting. Chad: Just that was in the last minutes too hey the last minute they scored the ⁓ the try and conversion to win the game yeah Byron: Yeah, Bowen Fentor. 79th minute. I don't know what happened to Edinburgh. Like, they've got class, but they're just not performing the way that they used to or have been, whatever you want to call it. Chad: They don't have enough South Africans in this team. Byron: I've got like all of the freaking Scottish representatives that are South African lately. ⁓ Chad: They were all on this team at once. Byron: Exactly. Lens to beating Ulster, kind of not expected. Chad: just no they i wasn't expecting that game to be because they are you what you're saying also to win i thought i thought lest oh yeah Byron: Yeah. Just based on current form, not based on historically. Yeah. Chad: down there. Byron: and they were at home. mean, either way, looking at the race for the eight, those two teams, won, we just need them to continue losing. So now we need Ulster to fall apart instead of Leinster. Chad: Let's start it. Absolutely. Yeah. Byron: Bulls absolutely crushed dragons. was brutal if you were a Welsh supporter. Nothing really stood out for me in those games. The Edinburgh game was close and the Bulls game was pretty one-sided and it sucks that Ulster lost because of Werner Koch, but that's about it. What I think... One of the most disappointing games of the weekend was Storm as Connacht. Chad: was and I'm not even a Stormer supporter but my god that second half from about the 60th minute what the fuck's going on here boys Byron: So I've got an opinion, it's probably not real, but that's what I thought anyway. From the beginning of that game, I also felt bad for the referee because both teams just whining and screaming and shouting and complaining and everything, the wind blew, someone cried about it. time there was a tackle, there was afters. Chad: here. Yeah. Byron: There was just always pushing and shoving and whining and complaining and the squad's asking the ref that and that one's asking the ref. It was just like both teams needed to just shut the fuck up and play rugby at one point. Chad: Sometimes you need a referee to call that shit out though. It's also, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's, it's, there's a part of it on him. Byron: Yeah, he didn't. But I think because of that, Connacht got under the skin of the Stormers players, especially Sasha. And I've seen this used as a tactic before. They don't play Sasha in rugby. They play Sasha in all the shit that goes on off the ball. The extra pushing, the chirping, the complaining, the... Chad: Yeah. Byron: What about him? What about... And if you look at the last 20 minutes of that game, they were completely under the Stormers' skin. And the Stormers weren't playing Stormers rugby anymore. They were playing Connacht rugby. And I think they were more interested what Connacht were doing instead of what they should have been doing. Chad: Yep. than what they were supposed to do. That's a good pick up. I yeah, I think you're right. I you're onto something, Byron. Byron: Well if that's the case then f***ing someone needs to talk to them because if I were to play the Stormers next week I would use the exact same tactic. it worked. Chad: really funny switch Byron: Have a look see. Chad: or Glasgow. Byron: Give out, oof, big game. Chad: Big, big, guy. Byron: Game first for a second if I'm not mistaken unless they moved around a bit because of that last haven't looked at Have a look Yeah, first for a second Chad: Well, speaking of Glasgow, they're gonna be... they're gonna be a wounded dog. Byron: Brother, brother, brother, is happening? ⁓ Chad: That game was so much fun to watch though the lines were just having fun at the end. That little back pop chicken wing pass out of nowhere, Asanati's soft hands. Byron: ⁓ stop it, that- It was that offload behind the back. And then there was the they tackled the other supporting player without the ball. Did you see that? He dummied him and he just said, OK, no more supporting for you. So like there would have been maybe a card or something if it didn't result in a try. But then even Keown Horn's inside outside step on the defender, 80 meter run, score a try. It was beautiful, beautiful. Chad: Yeah. Yep. My favourite part outside of that one was Asanati's soft hands. Got the ball and passed it like he was outside centre. It was so good. Byron: It was beautiful. Beautiful. It doesn't look like an outside sensor, but it's playing like one. Chad: He looks like he ate an outside center. is a big, big unit. Byron: What is crazy is obviously we wanted stormers to beat Connacht in terms of having, because can just say it now, sharks aren't really gonna make the top. Chad: They've got two chances. It's zero and fuck all. Byron: But I think mathematically they still can, but it's gonna take a miracle. ⁓ But for the Lions that was huge because that was probably a game they were expected to lose going into this race for the eight. So now next week's game against Connacht for the Lions, if they can win that, they can almost shore up a top eight. But now they're pushing for a home semi. Yeah, they're pushing for a home semi. Chad: Yeah. Big one. Always the top four. Yeah. Byron: I mean, look, I asked for it all the time from the Lions, but they're on their longest win streak ever in URC. They're at five games, five games undefeated, and they've taken some big sculps in that five. They took the Sharks, Stormers, Glasgow. It's impressive. And I'll contact next week. One more win, One more win. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, I hope. Muck it in. Byron: again, ⁓ at that stadium, it sucks because ⁓ camera angle that they use shows the empty side of the stadium and then behind the camera it's packed. Chad: Well, peck, sir. Byron: It's more full than empty. Chad: all the working staff that are there. ⁓ Byron: I think Lions at a smaller sold-out stadium would be so epic. Chad: Can you imagine if everyone bands together and goes and watches Lions are in the semis, home semi, packed out at Ellis Park Stadium to watch would they play at the moment? At the moment they would play Lions versus Cardiff. Byron: So look, on this. It would be... Chad: ⁓ no, sorry, be the lines with Ulster. Byron: So look, this has happened before, where the Lions will play with an empty stadium and then all of a sudden they make knockout rugby the stadium is packed because people are like, okay, I'm willing to risk getting my phone and wallet stolen to watch a knockout game. But I can understand why ⁓ they want to pay the money. It's usually more money to pay for parking than it is to pay for the ticket. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, I've got week in, week out. Byron: to the Lions game. And then there's that risk in between parking to stadium, stadium to parking at the end of the game. They can just fix that problem. I feel like Lions games will be just as full as the Bulls games. Chad: Yeah. That's a big goal. Actually, that's one of my favorite stadiums. in South Africa, my favorite stadium is the Shaftank, just because they have Shaft Base and all that stuff. But Loftus does the same thing on their B-field with the bras and stuff. Such a vibe. Terrible, terrible people, but great vibes. Byron: And Ellis Park started to do that as well. Let's not get into that one, Chad. were we? Lions beating Glasgow, epic. What about did you watch the Scarlet Scarlet game? Chad: I didn't watch any of other two games. I woke up and watched the the shocks guide. Byron: So, let me just, if you want to go watch a ridiculous game of rugby, go watch Scarlett's Cardiff. So Scarlett's came out in the second half as if it was their last game ever playing rugby. They were just untouchable when the second half started. And they pulled off this amazing lead against Cardiff. And even the commentators were like, this is such a shame for Cardiff. They're in such a close race for the eight. Chad: Carter Byron: that if they lose this game, will be really hard for them to qualify, blah, blah, blah, blah. All of a sudden, Cardiff decided, you know what? We don't want to lose this game. We want to win. just, Scarlett stopped playing, Cardiff learned how to play rugby, and it was such an epic comeback. It was, it was what a turn of events from Scarlett's being this untouchable force in the second half to, can't hold on to a rugby ball. I'm just going to give it back. Chad: Just I'm looking at the scores. Byron: caught up. Chad: three trials in eight minutes. Byron: Crazy rugby, crazy. Chad: Okay, I'll try again. Byron: ⁓ just watch the highlights. It's good enough. Chad: Munster Bennington. Byron: And then the last game of season, last game of ⁓ no, ⁓ Monster Wrecked Benetton. Chad: Yeah, 45-50. Byron: Then the last game of the weekend, did not expect this. Chad: I was so... so upset. Byron: I don't know how it happened because it shouldn't have. Chad: No. Byron: But thing that come from that game, I can still see the hurt in your eyes, you can't even use your words. ⁓ When Ethan Hooker scored that, yes, ⁓ wanna talk about it. Not that, but the whole ⁓ in tackling, not tackling, diving in the air nonsense. Chad: No, I was gusseted. Byron: So, my brother also sent me during the week a clip on Instagram of a player scoring a breakaway try as he's diving to put the ball down. Another player tackles him into play while he's in the air, hits him, the whole crowd boo's, players come running in. And the question is, is that illegal? Is it an illegal tackle? Like what does the referee do in this sort of situation? I'll send you the clip if you want to analyze it yourself, but I'll give you my opinion. The rule is, like if you're looking at, you're looking at like a ⁓ that's on the trial line and the ball's just before it, you can dive ⁓ the ruck if it's in the act of scoring a try. So you can't ⁓ into a tackle Chad: in the world. Can't dive over a rock. Byron: With the ball? You can, as as it's in the action of scoring a try. ⁓ Chad: don't know if you're asked, but carry on. Byron: Okay, I'm just gonna Google it. Can you... Chad: The other area, I could be, I hope I'm wrong. ⁓ Byron: Well, I hope I'm right because then, like you said, yeah, you see fuck off, I'm right. Thank you. Okay. So you can jump. So anywhere else on the pitch, if running and the defender's here, you can't jump into him. That's not a lie. It's a the other way. It's not a tackle in the air. But if it's in the act of scoring a try, you can jump and dive. Chad: Jesus. Byron: The thing is, when you're doing that, it's in in goal area, you negate the tackle in the air. Chad: Yep. Byron: If you have the ball, if you do an up and under and you're both in the end goal and you can't just move him in the air while you know what I mean? So like, yeah, you'll get a red card, but if you have the ball and you're jumping in the air, you can be tackled. You're the one who decided to dive that's on you. So you kind of take away the protection you have of being a player in the air. If you've decided to dive in the end goal that I agree with. Chad: You can, just once, because then he'll be off. Byron: What happened with Hooker is the trial was scored. The defender was in no way, shape or form going to get underneath him. He dived on top of him. Chad: Yeah, he was. On his back. Byron: So at the very least you can say late tackle and dangerous tackle or and or dangerous tackle. Why did the ref look at it and they just moved on? I think that's reckless, exactly. Chad: Yeah. To me it was just reckless. was, it was stupid. Like you could ex- you could maybe fuck someone up doing that. Byron: Where's she if the ball's underneath him? Chad: Yeah. Byron: So the reason I brought up the diving in the air and whatever it is, is I do believe that it is at the attacker's discretion when to put the ball down. Cause you'll see players will cross the line and then try sneak in a few meters to make the kick easier. And then it kind of puts the defender like, I tackle him? Do I maybe I tackle him out? Do I try to get underneath the ball? Or you'll see that try and kick the ball as they're trying to place it. I think that it's the attacker's responsibility to put the ball down early if they're able to. But then also there's also some responsibility on the defender that if you know you're not going to prevent the try and you still go in, there should be repercussions. Chad: I agree. It's the same argument with when someone goes into ⁓ tackle and there's like head on head, face on face collision. Like no one tackles with their face. No Like that. Byron: ⁓ and if you do, it's always on accident because you don't want to tackle with your face because it hurts. Chad: Yeah. Um, yeah, how great is it? I think. Byron: So yeah, I think at the very least there, they could have. Chad: But do know what they'll do with what happened? They'll find a way to remove a scrum out of game. They'll be like, nah. Byron: Yeah, restart. The penalty is no scrums for the next minutes. Chad: Yep, that's what will happen. Byron: What do you think? So I'm just trying to think of like the way the laws work. Wouldn't you would then restart the game with a penalty to sharks from the halfway line, right? And then possibly a yellow card for the defender. Chad: Yeah. Byron: That's how I would handle it. Chad: Yeah, no, I mean, depending on how dangerous it is and how reckless it is, but yeah. Penalty? I don't know about the other guy, but it depends on how stupid the tackle is. Byron: Because you see it as well when wingers are running down the line and they try to score in the corner and they dive at a weird angle and then the defender just tries to push them out. And I think that's okay because you're the one who's decided to dive. Chad: Do remember the and Mpimfi tackle? Similar, similar thing. ⁓ mean, there was no arms in it. Byron: My pimpie. The difference there was, Korobeti didn't use his arms, he shoulder charged him. And because by the law it's always an illegal action, then it has to be penalized. Chad: Yeah. I know, but yeah, it's things. We're talking the same here, just giving different examples. ⁓ Byron: But I'm saying you should have. Yeah, so World Rugby, as much as you don't wanna do all of the fun things, why don't you look into safety since that's your main concern and review what happens when a try is scored and the defender decides to do an elbow drop from the top rope like he's a WWE wrestler. Because now he's injured. Now we don't have Ethan Hooker. And was in no way, or form going to stop that trial. Chad: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Is he actually injured now? I didn't see he's injured. Byron: Now he's injured. I don't know how serious it is, but I see that he's not, he was at least out for next week's game, it said. Chad: see ⁓ Willemdus leaving the Khaleesi is leaving the sharks. There's this massive boat leaving with all these players. Byron: not good for you guys if you're already struggling. Chad: But I mean the boys didn't perform. ⁓ Byron: Maybe you need it, maybe lose some of your stars and let the hard work show for itself. I would argue no offense to the Lions because obviously I'm a Lions supporter, but we don't, we have some. But we don't have the same sort of star power as the Sharks or the Stormers or the Bulls. And yet we are playing, I would, said this last week and I still stand by it. I think the best game of club rugby to watch at the moment. Chad: Yeah. I am too. Massive linespan. Huge. Byron: not because of how well they're doing in terms of class or whatever, but I think for Gian Drueh versus the Lions would be ⁓ of the most entertaining games of rugby to watch as of today. Chad: would be fun. Byron: Because I think they both play just, let's just see how to score tries, regardless of where we are on the field. Chad: Yeah. Byron: It's fun to watch. ⁓ Chad: We missed a very important topic here The Moana Pacific... Moana Pacific are leaving the Super rugby Byron: What's that? or we touched on it, but... Chad: What are we doing to fix the problem? What team are we bringing in? Because I mean there's still a chance they stay in. They just need someone to come up with $14 million. Byron: Yeah, I looked at it now. They need to meet the estimated annual running costs of 10 to 12 million dollars to start. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Now, would I give Pacifica 12 million based on current form? No. But also, I don't have 12 million, so that doesn't really matter. Chad: Can you imagine like someone, Elon comes in and just like cool, let's do it, loads of team up. Byron: Yeah, with whatever you need, how much you need, 50 million, 60 million? How much money do you need for you to win? Chad: Yeah. Byron: Maybe they bring rich Himawanga. Chad: F**k, can you imagine? Jesus. Eat Richie, Artie, bring all the boys back. Byron: Hahaha Yeah, Japan goes empty overnight. Chad: Fuck yeah. Byron: No, it sucks. ⁓ I know we've joked about it and actually not joked about it, but cheaters need a big competition. I still think it would have made more sense with 12 teams in Pacifica. But if you're going down to 10, you can have 11 again. Just bring over the cheaters. Chad: Does suck. Yeah, do the exact same thing. Yeah, I'm all for it. Byron: But are also losing a team. So bring over the cheaters. They're already in the investing, well, in the EPCR. Cheaters are already there. Do they do well? No, but they're already there. So bringing them into the UIC with the Welsh team dropping out seems like the smoothest transition. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. I reckon that's what's going to happen. Byron: But to have the cheetahs in Super Rugby Pacifica would be fucking awesome. And also think about the growth of viewership in Pacifica. Because I feel like every South African, regardless if you're a Stormers, Lions, Bulls, whom I'm missing, sharks, even a Chiquaz. You can be a Chiquaz fan. It doesn't matter. You're gonna support the shit out of the cheetahs in Super Rugby. Chad: I'd love it. Yeah. So I can't do anymore. a hundred percent would go and buy a cheetah's and I'd watch. Here we go. Byron: It cheats his jersey. And you can put them in any stadium so that at least they can have a home base. Chad: They wouldn't care because none of them would be... You could put them in Nelson's Trafalgar Park. Byron: Yeah, but any place is going to be better than Blomfontea. ⁓ Chad: 100 % Yeah, everyone would be happy, so a win-win for everyone. Byron: Especially that guy, the head of Super Rugby who said that they have more viewership with the South African teams. Listen, Dickhead, take the two idiots here, take our opinion and look into whether or not it makes sense because I think it would be a massive growth in terms of viewership for Super Rugby. Chad: Yeah. Yeah and also yeah, Kakka Nubi for the other teams to have to go and play in bloom. Byron: Okay, but hold on. For those who haven't watched when we've spoken about this before, the argument is if they join URC, because teams are already traveling to South Africa, they'll have a regular home and away fixture list, just like everybody else. But if they join the Super rugby, then give them a home stadium and give them one home ground so you don't have to fly to South Africa. Cheaters will go to Super to, I would say Australia. ⁓ Chad: New Zealand. ⁓ yuck. Byron: and then give them a home ground. Or New Zealand, I don't really mind. Chad: Give them Melbourne! No one fucking plays there. They've got a stadium. Byron: And then all of their games will be played in that region. You won't need to fly to South Africa for away games or home games. That's the argument, a quick little synopsis from these two geniuses. Chad: I think it's a idea. Byron: I think they need to hire us. That's what I think. think, what do you call him? Old mate who says that they're making more money and more viewership with outside Africa. Take a note buddy. Take a note. Chad: Yep. Byron: one, we haven't done predictions next week. I did super right but you gotta do URC. Chad: Sharks are losing. ⁓ god, they actually are losing. Okay, hit me. I have to go Cardiff, even though Ospreay just beat the sharks. Byron: ⁓ I'll read them out to you. Card of Ospreys. Yeah, but on form that doesn't say much. Chad: yeah ⁓ Edinburgh i can't see the shocks winning Byron: Edinburgh sharks in Scotland. Yeah, but Edebrocon wouldn't game either at the moment, so. Chad: Well, the crazy thing is, I'm looking at the betting odds up on the fixtures I've got here. The Sharks are the favourites for that game. Byron: Yeah, I believe it. Chad: I don't think they're winning. Byron: I also believe that. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Okay, Edinburgh. wow, this is, this sounds ⁓ rude say, but a game that you could miss. Zebra vs. Dragons. what they did to Edinburgh last week, At home ground, let's give it to you. ⁓ Chad: and they're playing it high in the air. So that's the only reason why I've chosen them. Byron: Then, the storm is Glasgow. First for a second. Chad: UGH They've got their teams and I don't have their teams. I was done on Tuesday. I'm going to go Stormers. I think last week upset them and I come back with a bit of something something. Byron: Glasgow also have a little something something to prove. They just lost convincingly. Chad: Yeah, but they're not playing at home so I think that the Stormers have something to prove to their fans. Byron: I think that might be one of the games of the weekend. Yeah. Then one of the big big big big big games for the race for the eight. Lions vs Connacht. ⁓ You could have said 50 and it would have been believable. ⁓ Anything's possible at the moment. Chad: Lions by 15. Lions by 15. Yeah. Lions are winning their one. Yeah I know. putting, I'll win this game. Sunday I'm wearing my Lions jersey. I'll wear it all weekend. Byron: Perfect. Perfect. Here's another cracker actually. Monster Ulster. Chad: I'm gonna go to Manstow just because they're at home even though Ulster's been on fall. Byron: Yeah, good game that. balls should be an easy one. Chad: It's going to be the balls for sure. Byron: And then I'd love for the upset, but we've got Benetton versus Lennstar. Chad: If there was going to be an upset, that would be the one for this weekend, I think. Byron: Yeah, yeah. All right, that sums that up. One last bit of business we haven't attended to. And be honest, I missed all three games, because there was so much rugby on this weekend. But in the Women's Six Nations, ⁓ England Scotland 84-7. Chad: hit me. Aye, I miss it too. Yes, that's a cricket school. It's a t20 school, huh? Yeah Byron: of cricket, T20, the women's team is 2-0 up in a series against India. Surprise, surprise. Chad: They don't, ⁓ at least here, I don't see any adverts or any anything, any media about women's sport here. Byron: then you need my Instagram algorithm because this is where get all of my my women's sport updates. the rugby and all the cricket you can eat your heart out. I've got it. Chad: I get the updates after, after I get the scores all that stuff but like even for the Women's Six Nations wasn't a single ad on TV on Sky Sport about the Women's Six Nations starting I had no idea Byron: So question for you, because maybe this will spark a debate. When the Men's Six Nations was on, did you see up adverts on Sky and stuff like that? Chad: Mm. Anyway, yep. I wouldn't shut up about it New Zealand is the problem Byron: So New Zealand's the problem. New Zealand's the reason why women are fighting for equality. Don't you have a female prime minister? Chad: The bastards. Not anymore, she's... Byron: ⁓ so there was one though, not fully, fully, okay. Okay. Chad: There was one, yeah. I don't think they liked it very much though. Byron: Well, if you're in charge during COVID, no one liked you. You could have done anything and no one would have liked you. Okay, so the debate would be ⁓ is ⁓ Sports New Zealand not advertising the women's six nations if they would advertise the regular. Chad: Yeah, it's just... We also have to be nice to Sky Sports because they could sponsor us. So... They could be a sponsor of our pod and send us to World Drug. Yeah. Byron: through Sky Sports New Zealand. I feel like we've got a better chance getting Women's Six Nations to sponsor us through Sky Sports New Zealand. Chad: This is just so true. Yeah, fuck you, Scar. Byron: France beat Wales 38-7 and Ireland beat Italy 57-20. Sorry. Chad: Very one-sided, Byron: Yeah, look, England and France dominate that competition. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So I think what England are going to do to Wales coming weekend is going to be ugly. Italy versus Scotland will probably be pretty close and then France will probably beat Ireland. Wouldn't thrash them but probably convincingly. Chad: Mmm. Yeah. Byron: So my predictions for next week as well. But I didn't watch any of the games, but I did watch the first week of games. ⁓ ⁓ the of rugby is getting better and better in the women's game every time I watch. Chad: When are these games on for me? Sunday. I was watching some of the women's rugby on this weekend and I think the only thing that needs to change for me is because there's so many like handing areas and all that kind of stuff they need to make their ball one size smaller I reckon Because think about it. Think you take Achis Naaman's hand even Isamit's hand. It's like a fucking spade. Byron: Okay, I can see what you're saying there. look, when I ref the under ⁓ they play with a size four ball. But then under ⁓ they're already at size five. Chad: Yeah. Byron: would say that it's disrespectful to the women's game to give them a size four. Chad: Why are they disrespectful? We don't expect women and men to run at the same speeds in athletics and all that kind of stuff. I just think that there'll be, I think there'll be, it's easier to pass a smaller ball with less handling errors. Were you passing those long passes? Women generally don't pass those long passes as many times in the game. Byron: No, and yes the ball, but Less handling errors? Those 50 meters zingers that I can't even pull off. I love watching it because it's so hard to do. Chad: Yeah, it's so good to see, but if you had a size four ball I guarantee you'd be able to. Byron: cannot me, but maybe somebody else. Chad: You, even you, even you, a science football, I've got one somewhere here. Byron: Hold on, let's pose the question then, that you can clip it and we'll post it and we'll get someone's opinion. Do you think that the game of rugby, the women's game of rugby would benefit from having a size four ball? Chad: Okay. or even just half a size, just a little bit smaller I Yeah, make a women's ball. Byron: That's four and a half, so make a new special one. Alright, let's post it, let's get everyone's opinion, let's see. ⁓ I'm curious. think that's all there is, we didn't miss anything. Chad: Yeah. I think so, obviously looking here. Good night. Byron: I it. think we cut all of the cuck. Chad: we did. Yeah, that's it. Look at us go. Byron: That's it kids, we cut all the cock. Thanks for watching. to hear your opinion on the size of the ball for the women's game. I think that's an interesting one to post. Chad, thanks for being a doers. Appreciate it. Chad: you done? Byron: If you watched this long, thank you for watching. Please like, subscribe and share it with your auntie. ⁓ like to know what size rugby ball she likes to play with. Chad: That's so weird, but...