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- MARK HAYES (00:02.67) All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Mark Hayes, Ganellis here with you, a couple of high school buddies taking a good hard look at today's political mess through the black and white men's lenses. Brock, it's the corruption, stupid. It's everywhere. We can't find it anywhere. I mean, no, it's in broad daylight. It's right in front of our faces. Pete Hegseth today gave a briefing. Of course, he wouldn't call on any reporters who might have asked him about him trying to get his palms greased by defense contractors who were going to get huge contracts from the U.S. government because he's going to send our men and women into war. And the more war, the more money he makes. But at the same time, He's sitting at the podium saying, by the way, this isn't our problem opening up the Strait of Hormuz like the president said. You know, the rest of you people around this area ought to get tough too. The rest of our allies. Why don't you go and take some oil too? That stupid, true social post he put out. Did you see the ignoramus post that he put out? Brock, we are being led by the stupidest among us. Brock Ganeles (01:30.651) NATO is basically dead because the European countries will not let us use their airspace right. France and Italy, UK is allowing it nominally. France, Spain, Italy not allowing us into the airspace because they're like this is just an unjust war. So now Trump has said well NATO is useless so NATO is kind of on its last gasps here. MARK HAYES (01:33.005) Yes. MARK HAYES (01:55.19) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (01:55.479) I don't think any of the countries involved truly believed that the US would step in and protect the NATO country if attacked. So I think the basic premises of NATO Trump at this point has destroyed big victory for Putin, which is something he's always wanted. The Hegseth story I had not seen. The corruption is so rampant everywhere. It doesn't surprise me that he would want to make a few dollars. MARK HAYES (02:14.766) Mm. Brock Ganeles (02:19.908) on the side as well. He's watching Jared. He's watching Trump make money left and right. He was watching Lewandowski getting paid off left and right with DHS and had to be thinking this is just the way the game is played. And of course I should be getting paid off. Why should I just allow a contract to get signed and not take my cut? Was that basically the premise where he was just going to get paid directly to decide which vendor MARK HAYES (02:44.632) Sure. Brock Ganeles (02:46.812) slash company got the contract, I mean a classic bribery scheme. MARK HAYES (02:49.228) Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and why not? There's no rules. There's no, there's no police, right? Who polices the police? Right? Hegseth is the authority. He's writing the rules and moving the goalposts as he goes. The goal of this entire administration is to get paid, is to get as much money as they, we are not being governed. We are being looted. The American taxpayers will pay for this administration for what? The next four to five generations? What are we, 40 trillion in debt right now? Four or five generations. Our great, great, Brock Ganeles (03:32.351) Well, we're incurring debt and then money's going into the hands of private quote businessmen and or politicians or government, what used to be called civil servants. know, Pete Hegseth, we would have used to viewed him as a civil servant working for the good of the American national interests, not his own personal benefit. that Trump changed all that because he's decided that MARK HAYES (03:44.238) Mmm. MARK HAYES (03:55.534) Sure. Brock Ganeles (03:58.867) from day one he wanted to enrich himself and we let him do it. We knew back in Trump 1.0 that the whole sham handing off of the business into a trust and he'd have no say in the business anymore and he wouldn't be benefiting off the presidency. We knew it was a scam and it was a scam. And now that he got to Trump 2.0 he doesn't even bother to play the lip service of... MARK HAYES (04:18.381) Right. MARK HAYES (04:24.504) Right? Brock Ganeles (04:26.704) working within boundaries or rules. He's just determined that this is a part of the job and he should take whatever he can get. We talked yesterday about how he's discovered how much money he can make off of war and the military. So the fact that Hegseth has got his hand out for some payouts, it's almost expected. MARK HAYES (04:29.377) Okay. Brock Ganeles (04:50.928) I mean, he'd almost be a chump for sitting there and just watching Jared and Lewandowski and Trump and Lutnick and others like what scoop all the money. MARK HAYES (05:01.3) Right, right. I better get some too. Lord knows he wasn't making a fortune over there at Fox News, but. Brock Ganeles (05:08.754) But if I can come in from the white guy point of view, I mean, this is the sort of thing that used to enrage white people, right? White people don't like their money getting taken from them by other people in broad daylight, right? They go up in arms and they get pickpocketed. MARK HAYES (05:12.814) Sure. MARK HAYES (05:29.483) Yeah? Brock Ganeles (05:30.439) rule of law, rule of law, protect property, right? the riots, properties getting destroyed, right? White people who own shit used to get really, really mad when they saw things being taken and kind of taken from them where they're not benefiting. Like they're the, they're the sucker, right? They always say right at the poker table, if you don't know who the, the Mark is, you're the Mark. White people don't, don't expect to be the Mark. MARK HAYES (05:47.982) Yeah? MARK HAYES (05:53.752) Who the mark is, it's you! Brock Ganeles (05:59.623) when it comes to these types of activities. But we're taking it. MARK HAYES (06:03.276) What happened today? Why is white America not upset about it? Are you so rich that it doesn't that that you know, the extra tax burden doesn't bother you? I mean, is that what's going on here? White America has so much disposable income they can handle five, six, seven, eight dollar gas plus the hikes in the grocery store. Then they don't mind paying it. Brock Ganeles (06:32.254) and the booming national debt as we take on more debt but money is going into the hands of very few who are getting it ill-gotten gains why isn't this like the biggest story in news and in media you know like the Lewandowski story just like slipped by right every contract had to go through Corey Lewandowski for DHS MARK HAYES (06:52.302) Yeah Brock Ganeles (07:00.978) Well, Kristi Noem gets fired, Lewandowski gets pushed out, but nothing ever gets addressed about all the money that he took while he was there. So he keeps the riches. It just got cut off earlier than he had hoped. I don't know why white America is sitting back and taking this on the chin and allowing like what they know are, you know, basically degenerates to just steal from them. MARK HAYES (07:11.906) Yep. MARK HAYES (07:28.63) Right. Brock Ganeles (07:30.738) Cause Hey, it's tax time. We're all paying taxes. White America is paying taxes right now. We're talking to our accountants. We're sending in our W-2s and we're getting ready to pay taxes. And as we cut those, as we cut those checks. MARK HAYES (07:36.493) Huge! MARK HAYES (07:44.238) Right? Brock Ganeles (07:49.523) The money goes, so it's leaving our accounts, right? And we see all these fuckers in the Trump administration just taken left and right. I don't know why it's been become so accepted in the white community. It's extremely disappointing. MARK HAYES (07:58.798) Yeah. MARK HAYES (08:05.74) Yeah, and you know, here's the deal, Brock. Since we're 40 trillion in debt, you think the IRS is going to be cutting any breaks when it comes to these audits and making sure they get every nickel from us that they possibly can? Because God forbid the Epstein class should pay a little bit more. So they're going to squeeze the other 99 % of us, right? To make sure that we're paying everything we're supposed to. They're going to go through, you know, our returns with a fine tooth comb, you know, to make sure we're not claiming any extra deductions. know, they've, Trump last year 1.0, Trump, took away our mortgage interest deduction. I mean, what else can he take from us? You know, shit. I mean, you. Brock Ganeles (09:01.298) Well, they're talking about they're talking about taking, healthcare dollars away from more people to pay for the war that's being floated out there. I don't know if that's like another leak just to see how the American public reacts to it, but yeah, they're trying to find places where they can take money in because so much is flowing out for the war. And yeah, like you said, they're not taking in tax revenue from the 1%. MARK HAYES (09:06.732) Right? Yeah! Brock Ganeles (09:28.838) so they're going to either have to get it from somewhere else or just run up a fucking deficit like we've never seen before. MARK HAYES (09:29.23) Thank MARK HAYES (09:35.329) Yeah, here's a good one on NBC.com. The headline of the story, the headline is funny because it's it's it's fucking cruel. As Americans bear the cost of the Iran war, DHS shut down and Washington politicians leave town. And then the first line is, hey, George W. Bush gave up golf while he was president during the Iraq war. President Donald Trump isn't about to do the same amid the Iran war, describing his occasional golf outings as a brief reprieve from the pressures of being commander in chief and having to count all that damn money. This son of bitch is going home. It's a form of relaxation, he told NBC News in a phone interview. Dude. Brock Ganeles (10:25.436) because he's so he's so haunted by the deaths of the military and those injured over there. It's just it's weighs him down so hard that he needs that release out on the golf course. Like anyone believes that that bullshit guy golfs through everything. I mean, this is like I mean, we've just we've just hired him for paid vacations and for him to become the America's piggy bank. It's a look. It's on us. MARK HAYES (10:32.193) and he cares. MARK HAYES (10:36.494) because he cares so much. You MARK HAYES (10:52.526) Right. Brock Ganeles (10:55.098) It's on us. The media is an epic fail, but it's really on us. MARK HAYES (10:59.606) Right, right. You know, we're letting this guy do it. We're letting him off easy. We're not demanding articles of impeachment. Did you see any articles of impeachment signs at your No Kings protest? What did we want? Brock Ganeles (11:14.94) No. Well, no, no, I did. There were a few. There's definitely, there is definitely a few. There's a lot of anti. I mean, it was very, very aggressively mocking of Trump and, and the, the topics were pretty wide ranging again, a lot on ice, a lot relative to corruption, a lot on the Iran war. MARK HAYES (11:33.944) Right. Brock Ganeles (11:39.432) Those were like the three major topics that I saw. There was a lot of creative, there were creative signage. People did come through on the signage, I would say. Just not on the anger and intensity level, but they came through on the signage. MARK HAYES (11:47.192) Yeah. MARK HAYES (11:50.475) Right. We need to be indignant. need to be, we need to match his ignorance without, we need to throw eggs. We need to throw tomatoes at the White House, not up at, you know, the Rhinebeck RX, right? We need to be in DC gumming up the works. And, you know, again, waiting to the midterms, is a non-starter for me. It just is. And I can't believe that Americans are sitting back and taking this ass-whipping just as docilely as you possibly could. I mean, we're not even fighting back. Neither are our elected officials, and it's frustrating. Brock Ganeles (12:45.828) the next frontier, the frontier that's been going on the whole time, but still generally in the background in the courts is they're just going after voting. I mean, from here on out, everything is going to be about restricting voting opportunities and who's going to be able to get to go to the polls, right? They're going after the mail in voting. MARK HAYES (12:56.632) Right? MARK HAYES (13:08.268) Right. Brock Ganeles (13:10.856) They're going after the identification and the proof of citizenship. So, you know, now they're floating out the idea. We'll see. Supposedly might even get announced tonight where if states don't have a proof of citizenship, Trump's threatening funding to the states yet again, that'll go to the courts. But he's played this game over and over. Same with ice, where he's just going to try to starve the states and jam through changes in voting because they know if everybody votes. it'll get closer to where the approval numbers are and disapproval numbers are. And it'll be a MAGA will get wiped out. So Trump can't allow that to happen. He can't allow there to be a change in power structure because then he'll get impeached and more shit will come out and he'll get personally disparaged. So he's going to fight that tooth and nail. So that's what's going to happen for the next six months. So MARK HAYES (13:48.056) Right. MARK HAYES (14:02.668) Yes. Brock Ganeles (14:06.974) You can say let's play for the midterms, I want to hear everyone who says they're playing for the midterms to also tell me that they're out there in the fight every day to make sure that voting rights are maintained. And I doubt that's the case. Most of I assume like typical complacent America that everyone just assumes that they're going to be able to vote like they always used to be able to. And project 2025, that is not part of their blueprint. MARK HAYES (14:07.022) Right. Brock Ganeles (14:35.122) Their blueprint is to figure out how to restrict voting in every way, or form. MARK HAYES (14:40.948) Right, right. Question for you. Has has MAGA left the building when it comes to the support of these clowns? Because Sean Davis, the CEO of the conservative rag, the Federalist, he posted on X or the Twitter. How was Disney World to Lindsey Graham? Did you have a good time on vacation by yourself after leaving town while Americans were stranded at airports? So I mean, have the true maggots left the building? Brock Ganeles (15:16.072) They're going after each other in all sorts of ways, whether it's Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Alex Jones, know, that fucking name's back in the mix. They've definitely become a little bit circular firing squad, right? CPAC was kind of a shit show, you know, criticizing a lot of other Republicans along the way. You got the Nick Fuentes crazy Nazi out there saying that MARK HAYES (15:34.104) Right. Brock Ganeles (15:44.861) You know, he's turned on Trump, but I don't believe any of it. They have nowhere to go because there's no, even the ones that are like angry at MAGA say Trump is screwed them. They're regretful of being triple Trumpers. They haven't gone anywhere. They haven't moved. They're just complaining, but they, there's no place to go because in order to leave the MAGA movement, they would have to actually MARK HAYES (16:04.086) Right. There's no place to go. Brock Ganeles (16:14.16) change some of their fundamental beliefs and outlooks on society. And I don't see any of that happening. I don't see any realizations of people like, wow, I'm way too misogynistic. Of course, women should have the same rights as men and the rights to bodily autonomy. they should certainly have the right to vote. What is the SAVE Act that we're pushing? You don't hear any MAGA people saying that. MARK HAYES (16:40.376) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (16:42.302) You don't hear them saying like, wow, I've really lived a racist life and American life is unfair. And now that these ICE agents are on the streets, what a wake up call that is to me about the equality and fairness in the America that I want. You know, I want to be a part of. I don't know. I'm just not hearing any of that. I'm hearing a lot of bitching about the fact that gas is at four dollars and prices are still too high and we can't afford to live here. We're in foreign wars right here complaining. But I don't hear any MARK HAYES (16:58.872) Right. Brock Ganeles (17:13.096) fun. I just don't hear any learning curve. MARK HAYES (17:17.004) Well, Brock, didn't we learn from the guy who said the rent is too damn high? Remember that guy? Brock Ganeles (17:24.946) Yeah, it would have been a great candidate. That guy nailed it. He should have been a strategist. MARK HAYES (17:29.774) You know, now here's the thing. We're right back there again. Except we're not saying the rent is too damn high. We're saying the eggs are too damn high. The gas is too, why are we going back? Every other nation around this planet, every other industrial nation, except for Russia, is trying to move forward, right? With technology, AI, space travel. environmental concerns. Everybody's trying to move forward except we're talking about coal. We're gonna make coal great again. We're doing dumb shit like that because we are being governed by the dumbest among us. So my question is, how do we as the electorate get smarter? And come up with better alternatives to this shit show we've got now. Because clearly there's still 30 something percent of the people out there that are like, hey, this is rocking. This is going pretty good. Like, wow, Trump's demand, including Nick Cannon and TLC's chili. Brock Ganeles (18:49.736) think the only way for the nation to get smarter is if it becomes more like peer to peer education. Everyone has a megaphone, everyone's on social media, everyone's in connection with each other constantly. Eyeballs are scrolling, this and that. More and more of us are gonna have to be political educators of others amongst us. MARK HAYES (18:59.054) I'm ridicul- Brock Ganeles (19:18.104) and try to move the needle with our contemporaries. Cause I don't think it's going to happen coming from the top down. So I think we're all just going to have to be better about having discussions like that. I was on the call with a friend of mine today who didn't vote in the last election. And I said, I said, every time I talked to you, I'm reminded of that famous quote. You always say where I don't care about politics, but politics sure cares about you. MARK HAYES (19:23.619) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (19:47.079) I said, look, you're about to pay taxes. Are you really comfortable that your tax dollars are going to go over to buy more weaponry to bomb Iran instead of to be used for health care here and education here in America? I'm like, you may say you're not political, but your dollars are political and the government's about to take them and use them. Don't you have a thought on how your dollars should be used to better American society? So that was my little attempt. MARK HAYES (19:47.392) Mm-hmm. MARK HAYES (20:15.214) Mmm. Brock Ganeles (20:17.04) at trying to get someone who considers themselves apolitical at least thinking about it. Cause you're not apolitical. You're about to, we're all going to pay taxes in the next three weeks. You can't be apolitical. You live in society. Of course you're governed by a political entity. You're a part of the system. You can't pretend you're not. So I think maybe that's just in the way that the no Kings and the protest have been bottom up. MARK HAYES (20:24.984) You can't be apolitical. Right. Brock Ganeles (20:42.398) I civics education and political awareness is going to have to be like a bottoms up day to day one by one and be the annoying guy in the conversation sometimes who's like, okay, let's stop talking about for men. Stop talking about sports and other shit. That's basically irrelevant in the big picture and jam in. There are some politics every so often. MARK HAYES (20:42.734) Right. MARK HAYES (20:59.021) Right. MARK HAYES (21:07.706) All right. Help me understand what's going on at the University of Pennsylvania, They're asking, Trump administration wants a list of all the Jewish employees. Why do they want that? Why do they need it? Why is the judge ordering it? Why is the EEOC investigating? the pattern or practice of anti-Semitic harassment of Jewish employees at one of the nation's premier unifucking versities. Brock Ganeles (21:47.304) think this is that typical bullshit quote protection of Jews shit that the MAGA right try to pull scheme all the time when when bubbling underneath the surface is basically a Nazi movement so like any Jew that like plays into the the hands of the right wing and pretends like you're invited to that cookout like you're fucking on the list also I don't know specifically what they're doing to University of Pennsylvania and why they think they need the names but because that shit starts getting scary MARK HAYES (21:59.117) the shame. Brock Ganeles (22:26.5) as a Jew, first thing I'm like, name, you don't want your names on lists. Makes you easy targets. They're doing it under the auspices of protection of campus protection as a response, I think to all those pro Palestine sit ins that happened on so many campuses. that the, the, Jewish students need to be protected, but MARK HAYES (22:31.756) Right. Right. MARK HAYES (22:45.888) Right. Brock Ganeles (22:53.022) I wouldn't fall for that one. That's the Lucy with the football man. You don't want to be given the right wing project 2025ers lists of Jews. So I don't know. I'm going to have to do some homework on what specifically is going on in University of Pennsylvania. But as soon as you started to say it, I started to get worried about it. MARK HAYES (22:56.11) I'm moving. MARK HAYES (23:02.944) No. MARK HAYES (23:10.826) Yeah, that headline caught me, scared me, because we know who's next, I mean, we're still buying these warehouses. So that means that ICE is going to be putting somebody in there. There's bodies allegedly going in them. They're not buying them to, you know, house the Elon Musk ugly-ass cyber trucks that they bought. Those are already parked and don't run anywhere. Brock Ganeles (23:39.454) So we need lists of Latinos and brown people, lists of Somalis and Haitians, lists of Muslim Americans, shithole countries, and lists of Jews. MARK HAYES (23:45.56) Yeah. MARK HAYES (23:51.51) Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (23:56.717) Yep. Brock Ganeles (23:58.783) Maybe they don't think they need lists of black people because maybe they think they can identify you guys easier so they haven't had to make those lists. I mean that covers a lot. That's a lot of lists, right? For an ICE Gestapo force to just one by one, you know, start picking off whenever, you know, whenever that day comes. this is scary shit. It sounds like, that could never happen here, but you know what? MARK HAYES (24:05.443) Well... MARK HAYES (24:09.696) It's hard for me to go whiteface. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (24:28.35) It can happen anywhere, has before in the world, and all the mechanisms are in place. MARK HAYES (24:37.634) Yeah. Yep. You know what else is scary, Brock? We've got, we're averaging five deaths per month in ICE custody. We've got 14 dead already. That's a problem. That's a huge fucking problem. Somebody needs to go to prison for that, right? Especially, yeah, especially those people who weren't supposed to be in there anyway. So, you know, Brock Ganeles (24:58.194) Yeah, shitty conditions. MARK HAYES (25:06.902) See, here's the thing. When the Democrats take over, if we have an election, there's gonna be so much time spent on, you know, righting the wrongs and crimes of this administration, right? We're gonna have to run parallel tracks where people are gonna have to multitask getting the American people back up on their feet. and prosecuting the fuckers who have looted the shit out of this government, committed civil rights violations, and human rights violations. Brock Ganeles (25:44.648) Well, we won't still have control of the DOJ, but I'll tell you this, I won't want to hear about anyone's congressional vacations. I'm going to want to see hearings every single day and so that we're documenting all these atrocities so that when there is an actual justice system again in this country, that there's attribution. MARK HAYES (25:55.98) You damn right. Right. Brock Ganeles (26:11.993) And this time, it's not a Merrick Garland style effort, but it's, you know, people get prosecuted. MARK HAYES (26:16.43) Right, right. Brock Ganeles (26:21.203) Let's quick hit a couple things. I got two good ones today. So did you see the story on Kristi Noem's husband? MARK HAYES (26:24.142) What do got? What do you got? MARK HAYES (26:30.19) All MARK HAYES (26:37.129) No, but didn't he get paid? Brock Ganeles (26:39.743) Kristi Noem's husband was outed by whistleblowers as a crossdresser on a bunch of websites and was giving out his name and phone number to people. MARK HAYES (26:49.932) Right. MARK HAYES (27:07.307) Nice! Brock Ganeles (27:09.073) So that's blown up. So Kristi Noem, who apparently is saying she was shocked that this was her husband's behavior, but also in the emails that they found, they also found him acknowledging that he knew about the Corey and Dillon and Dowski affair the whole time. So basically it's a big blow up. And of course in right wing circles is his scandalous because it's, you know, considered, you know, kinky or whatever term they were using for Kristi Noem's husband's behavior. MARK HAYES (27:36.045) Right. Brock Ganeles (27:37.938) It just goes to hypocrisy of the right. The hypocrisy of people like Lindsey Graham who like, what is he? 75 years old and he went to Disney World by himself as his holiday. He can be whatever person he is. If you're on the left, we would be like, fine, live your life. If you're not hurting anybody, go live your life. But it's big scandal on the right for Mago World, which, you know, doesn't want any deviance, right? MARK HAYES (27:47.916) Weird. Weird. MARK HAYES (28:07.192) Right. Brock Ganeles (28:07.379) They got their Bible in front of them. They got to play by that alone. But if you just Google that story, it'll come up and kind of be. MARK HAYES (28:16.513) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (28:16.863) Salacious shall we say some MARK HAYES (28:20.846) Brock, if another quick hit real quick, many members of Congress would you say are over the age of 80? Brock Ganeles (28:24.894) Yeah! Brock Ganeles (28:31.475) Ooh, 80. Brock Ganeles (28:36.479) 12. MARK HAYES (28:38.254) 24. Boom. 24 members of Congress, the eldest of which I believe is 92. That'd be Chuckles. Yeah, Chuckles Grassley. Brock Ganeles (28:48.617) Chuck Grassley? Brock Ganeles (28:53.375) Chuck Grassley's third in line for the presidency. 92 years old. MARK HAYES (28:57.43) And he's like... It's ridiculous. 167 years old. He's third in line for the presidency. And he's the one who's going to help us figure out how to regulate AI. Yeah, he can't unlock his phone, much less tell us how to regulate AI, much less log on to chat GPT. Jeez. Brock Ganeles (29:10.184) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (29:19.295) That is a big number. I had 24 was high and that's I wonder how many of those 24 are going to run again in September, November. The number is pretty high. This quick, my last quick hit maybe will be Cariova to tomorrow, but what seems to be bubbling up on the right is a big conspiracy theory on the Charlie Kirk murder. MARK HAYES (29:40.131) Mm-hmm. the bullet! The magic bullet! Brock Ganeles (29:44.553) the bullets, the bullets don't match the gun. If the gloves don't fit, you can't convict. And so there appears to be some inconsistencies with what the forensics are showing. And I think I saw somewhere that the lead district attorney on the case also resigned sort of around the same time that some of this stuff is bubbled out. MARK HAYES (29:51.01) Hehehehe Brock Ganeles (30:12.135) So this is just going to give the QAnon crazies and that right wing they're going to be able to run with this forever. My only concern is that this gets them to turning around and blaming it on the left because so far it's been nice and sequestered on their side of the ledger of their crazies. MARK HAYES (30:16.515) Oof. MARK HAYES (30:30.924) Right. Right. Yeah, the last thing they need is another conspiracy. Their heads have already exploded from the Epstein files and they're not being able to see them all. But they're pretending like it's not happening because their boy is dead center in it. You know, with Trump having 34,000 mentions or whatever it is, it's just absolutely ridiculous. All right, my friend, good stuff today. It's sad, but good. Brock Ganeles (31:03.487) Alright Mark, always a pleasure. Talk to you tomorrow. MARK HAYES (31:06.082) Sounds good. Peace.