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Young Goldie - Unmasking Modern Masculinity · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 3: of foot and now here's Jen.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon everybody, and welcome to this episode of Cats
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  Speaker 2: and Pudding. And today I have a great guest. We
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  Speaker 2: have Young Goldie game Game Game dot gold today and
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  Speaker 2: he is a very interesting, interesting chap. He is a
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  Speaker 2: life coach. He is he has been, You've been on
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  Speaker 2: you've done fashion right and you are very into let's say,
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  Speaker 2: uplifting young men. And we like that.
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  Speaker 4: I do like going a value back to the men.
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  Speaker 2: We like that. We like that. How do you feel
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  Speaker 2: about that? Then? What's going on these days that you
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  Speaker 2: feel it? The old the beat down for you know?
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  Speaker 3: Men?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this I feel like men aren't being
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  Speaker 3: raised by men, at least in my community.
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  Speaker 4: They're not being raised by men.
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  Speaker 3: So their example of a man is what they're getting
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  Speaker 3: from their mother, right, So how can you be something
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  Speaker 3: that you've never seen in your household? So that's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing guy's work out here. You know, I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to give the men that manhood back because I feel
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  Speaker 3: like the problems they have with women exist when a
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  Speaker 3: man is in his rightful position, a woman will be
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  Speaker 3: in her rightful position and these men, they're out of position,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why the woman is out of position.
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  Speaker 4: So we got to start with the man.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So do you believe in family in the families,
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  Speaker 2: you believe in bringing the family back together and having
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  Speaker 2: a mom and a dad in the house and traditional
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  Speaker 2: family values.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, because, like I was just saying, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: can't model something you haven't seen. So you got to
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  Speaker 3: have the man in the household, You got to have
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  Speaker 3: the woman. You gotta have that balance, you got to
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  Speaker 3: have that structure from the man. You got to have
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  Speaker 3: the nurture inside from the woman. But anything that's out
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  Speaker 3: of balance is gonna be out of balance.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, now you know you're gonna get probably
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  Speaker 2: assaulted on social media for saying something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh they do that all the time, And I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna probably be assaulted too because I am not a
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  Speaker 2: new feminist. I'm listen. I'm a powerful woman, but I
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  Speaker 2: am not like these new feminists. I still want my
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  Speaker 2: door opens for me. I want to be put on
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  Speaker 2: a pedestal as a woman. I feel like we should
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  Speaker 2: be and I want a strong man. And you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: I have three daughters, and thank god, two out of
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  Speaker 2: the three got very very good men and strong men.
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  Speaker 2: But you need a strong man because how are you
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  Speaker 2: going to, like you said, how are you gonna have
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  Speaker 2: that balance?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know it's funny you say that because
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  Speaker 3: you say you want a man to put you on
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  Speaker 3: a pedestal. Everything that I preach is about a man
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  Speaker 3: take women off the pedestal. Right, And this is what
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  Speaker 3: I think about it. Right, these men put a woman
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  Speaker 3: on a pedestal. And when you put a woman on
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  Speaker 3: a pedestal, what are you doing? You're looking up at
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  Speaker 3: her and what does that mean? She's looking down at you?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like a woman shouldn't be put on
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  Speaker 3: a pedestal, nor should she be put beneath you. But
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it should be an equal respect at
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  Speaker 3: eye level, because when you put a woman above you,
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  Speaker 3: you know you treat her in a certain way, and
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  Speaker 3: if you treat her like a superstar, she's gonna treat
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  Speaker 3: you like a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't mean listen when I mean pedestal, I
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  Speaker 2: don't mean it in the respect that I want somebody
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  Speaker 2: to bow down to me. I want somebody to how
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  Speaker 2: about this, respect me and still treat me like a lady.
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  Speaker 4: It was what I'm saying that I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I meant. I mean that I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be I don't want to go Dutch. I know
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this and I don't know if that
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  Speaker 2: probably wasn't even my day was probably way before. It's
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  Speaker 2: the cold going Dutch when you both pay that I'm
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  Speaker 2: not doing going Dutch like and like I told you,
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  Speaker 2: like you, I feel that when men should still treat
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  Speaker 2: women like ladies. And that's what the where the problem
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  Speaker 2: is that I feel that the new feminists don't want that.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be equals, and we're not equals. We're
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  Speaker 2: not we have we both have our own place in society.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I agree, I agree? Right? Do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 3: I do agree with that, you know, but you know
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  Speaker 3: I see it differently because on one hand, a woman wants
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  Speaker 3: to say, okay, I want to be equal, and then
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  Speaker 3: on that same hand, a woman says, well, I need
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  Speaker 3: him to pay for this.
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  Speaker 4: I want him to pay for everything. So you got
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  Speaker 4: to pick a side.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that that I truly believe. And you
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  Speaker 2: also also spoke about, you know, about paying, Like if
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  Speaker 2: somebody wants to take me out to dinner, I feel like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: they should take me to dinner. But if i'm I'll
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  Speaker 2: cook them dinner. You want to come over to me,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about paying for men to go to dinner.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is this is what I say. Whoever
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  Speaker 3: asks should should pay for you think? So that's that's
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  Speaker 3: how I feel, because to me, that's that's just good manners.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm asking you to go somewhere, then I should pay.
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  Speaker 3: How could I ask you? But I feel like even
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  Speaker 3: if a woman asked me to go to dinner, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like she should at least offer to pay. Of
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  Speaker 3: course I'm probably gonna pay, But if you wanted to go.
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  Speaker 3: You asked me, you get what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Saying that I do agree with that. I mean, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I'm old school. I probably would never ask
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  Speaker 2: a guy to go to dinner, but I would ask
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  Speaker 2: them to come to my house and I would cook
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  Speaker 2: them dinner. I mean maybe, so that's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: same thing.
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  Speaker 3: So I got a question for you. Who do you
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  Speaker 3: feel like? I already know you answer. Who do you
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  Speaker 3: feel like should chase in a relation? You think the
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  Speaker 3: man should always chase the women.
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  Speaker 2: Do I feel like the man should always chase the them? No,
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  Speaker 2: I think it should be mutual. I think that both
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  Speaker 2: people should. It should have a mutual attraction. If I
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  Speaker 2: was going to say what I was what I do
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  Speaker 2: believe in a relationship, I think that the other person
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  Speaker 2: should you should you should respect each other. But yeah, men,
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  Speaker 2: men are going to Men are harder to do the
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  Speaker 2: chasing the women. I think women are crazy and most
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  Speaker 2: women are the ones who are chasing. That's what I believe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you.
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  Speaker 4: Think that you know what I think? Is like this? Right?
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  Speaker 3: If I'm chasing a woman, how you start is how
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  Speaker 3: you finish. And most of the time I see when
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  Speaker 3: you chase a woman, you have to maintain that same
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  Speaker 3: type of energy once you get her. So if I
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  Speaker 3: got to start to chase you the whole relationship, she's
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  Speaker 3: gonna make you maintain that. And how is a man
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  Speaker 3: if I'm supposed to be a leader, but I started
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  Speaker 3: chasing and once I get you, then I turn around
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  Speaker 3: and say, oh, now it's time for you to follow me.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it got to start where she's pursuing
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  Speaker 3: in some way. You know, it doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 3: like courting as hard as a man does. But I
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  Speaker 3: feel like the woman should show the most interest. Then
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  Speaker 3: I also say this, and tell me if you agree.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like whoever's most valuable should be the one
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  Speaker 3: that gets chased, whether it's the man or the woman,
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  Speaker 3: whoever's more valuable should be the one that's pursued.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But then, but then you're talking about fifty to
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  Speaker 2: fifty two we said that, then that's kind of skewing it.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty. Everybody should be of value in the relationshipship, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's say somebody's famous.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just take Chris Brown, right, and then we'll take
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  Speaker 3: of just a regular girl from a small city. Do
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  Speaker 3: you feel like he should chase her, or you feel
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  Speaker 3: like because he's more valuable, she should pursue him.
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  Speaker 2: I think then, well, of course she's gonna probably chase
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  Speaker 2: him because she's Chris Brown. I would say, of course
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. Logistically, that's what's gonna happen. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think anybody should really have to be let's say, chase.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how is somebody being Showing interest is big?
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  Speaker 2: Is different than being chased. When I think about being chased,
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  Speaker 2: is you're like obsessed with the person, like you're like
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  Speaker 2: showing up to their job, and you know, in in
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  Speaker 2: like you know, dressed in a in your in your
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  Speaker 2: underwear or like you know, with flowers or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that's what I think about chasing. But pursuing
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  Speaker 2: and showing interest, I think of two different things. But
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  Speaker 2: do I think I think that both people should equally
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  Speaker 2: show an interest of wanting to be together, because that's
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  Speaker 2: what's going to make a balance in a relationship.
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  Speaker 4: That's sure, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and women do like to feel that they're well,
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  Speaker 2: they not pursued. What's the word I should say, valued
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  Speaker 2: and appreciated That's what I look at this way. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're with somebody for a while, what
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  Speaker 2: happens you sit You know, they're sitting on the couch
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  Speaker 2: and watching TV. They're not gonna say, oh, come on, babe,
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  Speaker 2: let's go out to Tenna. Because if you don't keep
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  Speaker 2: some sort of that spark in a relationship, what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 2: Then things are gonna become complacent and everybody's gonna settle
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  Speaker 2: down and never everybody's burping, scratching their rests, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in front of the TV. Right, that's what happens to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody.
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  Speaker 2: It should be, it should be valued and appreciated.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, don't, don't set a pace you can't
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  Speaker 3: keep up with you exactly, do all this opening doors,
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  Speaker 3: doing all this for the woman, and when you get it,
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  Speaker 3: you stop and you want to wat a relationship all apart.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like once you get the woman, that's when
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  Speaker 3: the word really starts.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, and you should do you feel that
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  Speaker 2: women should be Would you open doors for your lady
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  Speaker 2: to help her.
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  Speaker 3: Out of a car if that's what she wanted, I
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  Speaker 3: would do it. I mean I wouldn't just up and
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  Speaker 3: do it. But if she said I value that, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do it with my woman values because I expect
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  Speaker 3: her to do what I value. Would you open a
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  Speaker 3: door for man if he said I like for my
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  Speaker 3: woman to open mon well.
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  Speaker 2: If I see them carrying fifteen packages, I would open
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  Speaker 2: the door for him. You know what, I automatically say,
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  Speaker 2: He'll let me open the door. Forel most men probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't want a woman to open the door for them,
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  Speaker 2: because I would know that. I'm saying, if somebody sees
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  Speaker 2: me being courteous as a gentleman, oh okay, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: you walk through first. Or I'll oh see you getting
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  Speaker 2: out of a car and there's a step, let me
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  Speaker 2: help you out of the car. Not like I need
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  Speaker 2: to be carried out of a car, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. But I'm saying it's just like a I
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  Speaker 2: think it's like a a respect thing, that's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: As as a lady I'm talking about as a leader,
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying that you have to do that, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: like I have to be carried around. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: as a respecting that's what I'm saying. I agree, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because if I walk down the stairs and heels, but
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  Speaker 2: usually my boyfriend, my fiancee, he'll help me down the
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  Speaker 2: stairs because don't want me to fall and kill myself
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  Speaker 2: most of the time because I want them tripping. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean things like that. I think that's more just
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  Speaker 2: valued and appreciation.
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  Speaker 4: No, I agree, I agree, and.
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  Speaker 2: You and you're okay. Did you ever go fifty to
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  Speaker 2: fifty with your girlfriend for going out to dinner?
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  Speaker 3: It depends, you know, different women, different situations. You know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes they'll pay, sometimes I'll pay. We've never had a
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  Speaker 3: situation where it was like, oh, I'm doing everything so
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  Speaker 3: because I like to be chased, you know. So I
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  Speaker 3: only deal with women who chase me and pursue me.
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  Speaker 3: So they like me so much they want to take
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  Speaker 3: me out to dinner.
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  Speaker 2: How is you and you're in a relationship now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and how how is that that dynamics of that relationship? Uh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like like I said, I only deal
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  Speaker 3: with women who like me a lot. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: she chased me to give me and even in my
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  Speaker 3: relationship right now, you know, she goes above and beyond
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  Speaker 3: for me and everything.
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  Speaker 4: That we do.
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  Speaker 2: And you guys allv it together or yeah, we living together.
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  Speaker 2: So that's it, and that's do you to feel that
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  Speaker 2: are you reciprocating to what she does to you? Now?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, of course. You know in the
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  Speaker 3: beginning I didn't. But you know, it's really just a
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  Speaker 3: test for me. Let me see how much she really
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  Speaker 3: likes me if I don't do anything for because you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm big on you know, a lot of women they
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  Speaker 3: try to get with me because they want my money
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  Speaker 3: and things like that. So I make it a point
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  Speaker 3: not to do anything for a woman or a period
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  Speaker 3: of time. And if she sticks around and still is
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  Speaker 3: producing and doing things for me, then I'll start to reciprocate,
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  Speaker 3: because I got to make sure that she's here for
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  Speaker 3: me and not just for the money.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha, Now, do you I find that these days that
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  Speaker 2: that's a big, a big deal. Like well, I think
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  Speaker 2: that we always I mean, I said, I'm old school.
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  Speaker 2: When we went out, the guys always paid, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Italian. That's just the way it was. The guys
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  Speaker 2: we went out, they paid. I feel that with social
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  Speaker 2: media now, because there's so many options out there, like
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  Speaker 2: there's not I find there's there's a lot of like
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying with the discourse with women, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know if they're going to be all mental. Their predators too.
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  Speaker 2: They look at you and see if you're have money,
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  Speaker 2: they're just as bad, if not worse. But I feel
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  Speaker 2: that they're looking to pay, get their phone bills paid
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  Speaker 2: and it paid and not paid, looking for the next
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  Speaker 2: best thing, and that I do agree with that. You're
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  Speaker 2: not always getting that substantial girl. That's a woman that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it because they like it or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: That So I do see it, and that's why I
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  Speaker 4: say all the time some.
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  Speaker 2: People that social media's fault.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some people don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: But I say, like this, Right, if a woman isn't
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  Speaker 3: willing to pay half for the dinner, then she don't
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  Speaker 3: like me enough. Right, If she's interested and really feels
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  Speaker 3: like this might be something and I want to pursue
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  Speaker 3: and see where this might go, she wouldn't have a
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  Speaker 3: problem paying half. So if that's gonna stop her from
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  Speaker 3: going on a day, we probably shouldn't go on a
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  Speaker 3: day because she doesn't like me enough anyway. That's to me.
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  Speaker 3: It shows it's not about the money. It shows her seriousness.
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  Speaker 3: In this situation, it's easy for a woman to be
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  Speaker 3: with a man and leave a man because she has
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  Speaker 3: nothing invested. So to me, it's just like this is
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  Speaker 3: just an investment to show me you're serious. If you're
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  Speaker 3: not willing to invest in, to me, you're not serious
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  Speaker 3: about this relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Well how But if if you're a girl says you won't,
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  Speaker 2: they don't ask because, like I said, I'm old school.
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  Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't ask a guy out to dinner and
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  Speaker 2: take him out. You know, I just wouldn't. That's just
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  Speaker 2: the way I was brought up.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it was a man that you like. I
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  Speaker 3: really like this man. I like a lot of No,
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  Speaker 3: you're still not gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Do it I because I wouldn't ask them out. I
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  Speaker 2: just wouldn't ask anybody.
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  Speaker 4: So you just wait waits me.
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  Speaker 2: I would hope that eventually they would ask me, because
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  Speaker 2: that's that's just the way. That's just how I grew up.
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  Speaker 2: But like I told you, I wouldn't bite them over
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  Speaker 2: for dinner, maybe not, maybe not take them out for sae.
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  Speaker 2: But would I come on, I'll cook you with beautiful
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  Speaker 2: den No, no, I like that. But would that would
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  Speaker 2: that therice for you? If you did that?
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  Speaker 4: That's investment. You pursue it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's investment because you had to get the food,
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  Speaker 3: you had to make the foods to your invest in
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  Speaker 3: time and energy into the situation.
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  Speaker 2: And that's actually better. It's more investment, that's really from
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  Speaker 2: the heart.
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  Speaker 3: That's some game right there. If a woman did that
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  Speaker 3: to me, she had catch me doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So then I'm on a good road.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But because I think also through hey listen through a
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  Speaker 2: man's hardests stomach. If you're cook, right, they're just a.
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  Speaker 4: Lost art these days to these women don't know how
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: to cook?
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: That? What is going on with these girls?
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: You know? I don't. I have no idea.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: So if you had a woman, if you had a woman,
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: or ansk your question, would you rather somebody who would
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: be home, let's say, cooking, keeping a home for you,
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: or somebody who was more somebody who's successful, What would
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: you rather have?
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: I'd rather have a woman that's more successful. Right.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: We could pay for a chef for meal perps, we
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: could pay for a cleaner, you know, So I'd rather
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: I like a woman. The way to my heart and
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: how I fall in love with a woman is us
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: grinding together, us doing things together, us working together. She's
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: doing her thing I'm doing my thing, We're doing things together.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I like in my relationship.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: So you want a real partner, You want to partner
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: in life. You want a partner that you can pursue
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: have a business or they're they're they're gonna, they're gonna
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: assimilate what you want.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I love a woman to grind
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: with me. You know, that's the way to my heart.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: So you want to you want to book successful woman
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: in the sunse I like, I like boss chicks. You know, well,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: you know what it's it is, but somebody who's successful
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: and powerful and sexy.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, as.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Men, for men and for women.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: And it's hard when you are a successful man to
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: have a woman who doesn't really understand the grind, you know.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: So you know, you get these successful dudes have women
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: at are at the house. They don't really understand everything
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: that goes into it. But when you have a woman
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: on the same path, she understands you could talk on
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: a different level.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: So that's why I like that.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: See, most men don't like successful you. Is it okay?
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: If the woman's more successful than you, I'd love.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: For her to be more successful to me.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Put me on you know, take me into the rooms
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: and network, you know, help me out.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. That's not many men can handle that,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: and not a lot of men can.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: You know, that's an ego thing. You know.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm secure as a man, you know,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: even having less than her, regardless, you know, but.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing because if you could let that
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: go as a as a man, because there are a
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: lot of successful women out there that can't find good
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: men because some men can't handle it. They I know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I know men in my generation, it's a lot.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: To how old do you thirty three?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a baby. I mean my daughter is I've
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: shoot older than you. My daughter is. My oldest daughter
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: is your age. She has a really great boyfriend. He
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: is also old school Italian. Thinks that has those principles,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: has those door processes. So she got herself a good
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a good guy. But I see the younger generation, well,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: my generation cannot handle women who are or a lot
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: of them can't handle women who are more successful.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Why do you think that is?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Why do I think that is? I think it's an
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: ego thing. Yeah, I think it's an ego thing. They
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: it's it is it's definitely an ego thing. I mean, listen,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: women are more are more competitive against each other people.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Women are more jealous and they see you jealous. They're
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: jealous of you because you're more successful.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see that too.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: They don't care how you got there, doesn't matter how
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: you got there. You could have worked, you could work
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: day and night, kill yourself, go to school for twenty years,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you know, degrees up, the s sacrifice. They don't care.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: They just see what you have and they don't care
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: what you did to get that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Man, Like I said to me, a woman, a successful woman,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: that's sexy to me because you understand the character of
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: a woman who had to become successful, all the things
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: she had to do, the discipline, the structure, and a
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: lot of women don't have that.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: So when I find a woman with that, to me, man,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good thing. That's a good quality to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: have in men. But I think that men in your
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: generation are lazy. I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: That's that's for sure.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: They're very lazy. They don't want to work. They are.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's just generational. Now, Like I was out
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: of the house at eighteen years old. I don't anybody
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: who was out of the who's out of the house now.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I know that people are like still living home at
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: certain ages. You know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this generation is lazy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It's terrible. It's terrible service. Everywhere that I go, it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: no customer service. They feel like they're doing you a favor.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Work there, like really, like, dude, like to have a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: little have a little pride in what you're doing, Like
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: this is your job, regardless of what you doing. They're
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: on their phone, they're not even looking at you. They're
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: not acknowledging you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Like it's a problem. You're asking them a question.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Man, you're at work, right, it's entitlement. You're right, You're
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: absolutely right, do you? And and I think that people
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it's got to change because eventually this system is.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Going to well, what's going to happen is AIS is
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: going to take over because y'all not even giving me
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the customer service of a human being. The only thing
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: that's making you valuable is that human interaction of having
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: good customer service. If you don't have that, then I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: AI could just do everything.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: For exactly what do we really want that to happen?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's that's a little where we have to worry about that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And listen, even Elon Musk said he's worried about it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: and he's a tech guy, and he said, it's not
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: something that is going to be that we shouldn't push.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It could be a problem. So you're right, and I
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, I think the next generation, well,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you know, you got to keep out there talking the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: way you're doing about it because they have to understand,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: like we have to get ourselves to go.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's for sure. That's for sure.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You got to get ourselves together. Well, you know, you
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: sound like an old soul, that's the way.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I get that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I get this, sound like an old soult. You don't
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: perceived I don't perceive you as thirty. I mean you
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: look young. You don't look like you're old. But I'm
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: saying you have the way you speak, it's it's more mature.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: O may an older soul.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I hear that. You know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I came up around like older uncles and things like that,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: so I just soaked up a lot of information.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: It's good. But that's so. Who were you raised in
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a with a mom and a dad in your household?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Or are you raised by.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Your mom, raised by my mom, but really raised by
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: my uncle. They lived in the neighborhood, So that's really
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: a group of men really just molded me. And I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: feel like that's what more dudes need. They need more
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: men around them. You know, it takes a village. You know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: they say, you know, in wise counsel their safety. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I always had a lot of men around
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: me I could go to for different things, to critique
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: me and help me out.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's very important.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: They're very important.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: So I guess let's ask you a little a little
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: controversial question. How do you feel about you know, like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you said, your values are more family oriented? Would you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: say you're more Catholic of Christian values that you believe
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: christ values And that's not very popular these days, you
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: know when when they talk about us, do you feel
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that it's we need to get back to the family.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I mean did definitely you got to get back to
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the family, because where the family is, that's where the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: principles come from. You know, when you have a family,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it makes it easier for you to be who you're
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: supposed to be because you have a group of individuals
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: that that you value their opinion and things like that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: When you don't have a family, you end up becoming
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: like everybody outside of your house. So when you have
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: a strong family unit, you see people who have a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: strong family unit with better morals and values and principles.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, what's so funny you say that you
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: don't really talk about government or politics. That was that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: was a very very intuitive thing you just said. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that is a big deal about what's going on these
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: days and world. Because they want to break up the family.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't want people in control. That's what
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: they did to go That's what they've done for hundreds
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: and hundreds and thousands of years. They did it for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: for in Europe, in Asia. Here they break up the family.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: It's Hitler and Hitler did it? You break up the families?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You could people more in line. That's that's what happens.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: If you don't have that for of initial unit, then
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you can never and that's socialism and that's bad. That's
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what happened. So you know, I understand when people, the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: younger kids, thinking, oh, but this is great and it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: very everything is good for everybody. No, it doesn't work
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: that way. It does not work that way. You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't because you're gonna have the best person in
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: charge right now, but the guy behind them you gotta
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: worry about who's gonna knock him off, who's got the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: bad intentions? And it causes no problems. So I think
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that was a very great good thing that he said,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a politicians, Well did you make a lot of sense?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: That was just how you how you looked at that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: So that's you know, that's very what sort I'm looking for.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's your your beyond your years. By saying that, so
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: very good, very good, very impressed, very impressed by you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I like it. And so what how are you planning
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: on marrying your girlfriend now? Or are you gonna do family?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like, uh, marriage is a bad contract. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I mean as far as me being with her and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: being committed to her, I could do that, but as
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: far as actually getting on paper to the government, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: don't see any benefit to that for me. I mean
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: unless she, you know, she ends up making it big
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: when she probably will and she's a multi multi millionaire,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: then maybe it's a benefit. But as of right now, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that's a bad contract.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: So you're not ready for that?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: No, no, not don't you want.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: To have kids.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have a son right now.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Oh how old?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Twelve?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So you started young?
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah I started too young.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Well that was you to you guys, we started very young,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: that that is.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I started when I was twenty.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: So okay, you think that's you think that's too young.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: No, now it is not, not not now. It is
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: because you know, the twenty is twenty year olds have
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the people of thirty have the minds of twenty years.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: That's that's, you know.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Because they're they're they're just there. I think that people
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to pampered, very wimpy. Sure, what about the guys, these
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you know, your generation of men, like you're very strong.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: It's terrible, you know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And I see because I coach a lot of guys
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and they have all these problems and they don't understand
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: that they're the problems. Like I don't even see how
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: these women deal with some of these guys. I say,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: you're the problem. You're looking for something in the woman
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: that the woman should be looking for, and you these
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: dudes like they're looking they're looking like for for emotional
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: support from the woman. And I'm like, man, the woman
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: needs that from you. She needs to rely on that
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: strengthen you. If she can't see that strength in you,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: then it's hard for her to respect you. You know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: these dudes like the same tendencies as women these days.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: So it's like these men are emotionally depleted, so they
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: get into a relationship with a woman looking for something
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: for her to feel in him, when he should be
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: feeling that for her. So it's hard for the respect
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: level to be there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree with that totally, and that's what was
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: pushed onto these last two generations. We have to be
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: more you know, for feelings for men, and women have
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to become men. And you know what, I do not
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: want to do what a man does. I don't have
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to do every job a man does. I don't want
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to be a bricklayer. And you know, there are some
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: some jobs that men do better than women. I'm sorry,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: but they do, and vice versa. There's there's both in
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: both ends. There's both women dominate the medical field, they dominated,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: they just do. But women don't have to all be tech,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you know, giants and all this stuff. You know, it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: just certain things are and it's known, it's been proven
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that there are certain things that men do better and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: women do better, you know what I mean. And it's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: not about education, it's not about intelligence. It's just about
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: women are nurturers. That it's just different and that's it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And you can't change the cost of being natural. This
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: is just a natural thing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But I don't know these days, you know, that nurturing
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: motherly spirit. A lot of these women don't have it,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: like like my mom had, you know, so.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I see a lot of these women.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, what makes a woman valuable to me is
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: that nurturing spirit, that that softness, And I meet a
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: lot of women who don't even have that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? You think that they're
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: just trying to change the roles.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I don't know. Maybe the music,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: maybe the times.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe you know, different generation than the women before them,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: they didn't see that or get that. I'm not sure.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: But it's making it hard for a woman to be
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: valuable to me. If the most valuable thing about you
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you don't have.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, And like I again, I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it has I think it has to deal with the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: new feminist I think that what they've been hounding down
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: girls throats for the last twenty five thirty years again,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: wanting to be to be men. We're not men. No,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: stop it stopping. And that's why women aren't happy. That's
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: why they aren't happy. No, that's for sure, that is why.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: And like you said it, they're finding men who are
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: not strong enough, and they're not happy. And that's why
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the relationships are failing because they're not getting the men
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: who are strong. Because we need a strong, strong man,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: even if we're successful, more of them, we need a
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: strong man behind us.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I say it all the time.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: You know, women do theirself a disservice getting a pushover.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: They think, Okay, I'm get this easy guy that I
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: could take advantage of. Not understanding what you're doing to yourself,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you become who you're around where they say you're to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: add some of the five people you hang around. Most
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: people forget that when they talk about their spouse, you're
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: going to become that person.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: So if you got to.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Push over, what does that make you? You know, he's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: if you don't have a strong man who's gonna put
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you in your place sometimes, who's going to critique you,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: who's going to give you that constructive criticism, you're not
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: going to grow.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: So a woman is.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Doing herself a disservice by getting a push over man.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent with you. You have
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: really really great you're a really great insight on all this.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I love this. You got to keep going out there
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and talking to these young men. We got to get
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you out there.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: For you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: We need to. This is great. I will be listen,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I will help you. I'll be your advocate. I will
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: stand behind you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I appreciate because.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You need these men need you.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Know they do, they do.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: The one hundred need you. And I'm talking about gay
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: straight all every man of every.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: And every man is a man.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Man is a man. You need. We need strong men.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And that's the truth. And I totally agree with you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: You need to get talk to stadiums.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I love it. I can't wait. I will be there.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I will totally. I'm a total supporter. I love you,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: like the way you think. And you know what, maybe
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you'll help the next generation.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Listen, I'm trying to do it or.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Try to or try to save this one to help
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the next one and save.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: This that's my mission.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: There you go. I love it. So tell us tell
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: everybody where they can find you and where they could follow.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You find me on Instagram, Young Goldie, Underscore, YouTube game,
• 28:07
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• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I got everything on their books of courses everything.
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  Speaker 2: It was great, it was a great conversation. I think
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• 28:36
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