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The Bolt Report | 19 November · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Jesus, He's the bold perform it tonight. Angry residents call
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Speaker 1: the protest meeting after the state government renamed their lake
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Speaker 1: after a founder of a religion, and you will guess
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Speaker 1: they're sure not talking Jesus Christ. That meeting's on tonight.
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Speaker 1: Also in the show, one day after China's dictator told
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Speaker 1: Albanezy we were friends again, China goes in jails. In Australiana,
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Speaker 1: democracy activist for seven years, Plus Peter Dutton boasts the
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Speaker 1: labored trash talking against them is backfiring. Is he right?
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Speaker 1: And Sweden wants its citizens prepare for war with Russia.
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Speaker 1: Plus my Tuesday regular guest, it's just back from Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's home and will tell us the mood there and
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Speaker 1: whether Elon Musk really is on the nose like we're
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Speaker 1: told plenty more. But first look, we're not going to
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Speaker 1: expect much reason much science from media personalities has just
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Speaker 1: bought the whole climate alarmism vibe. Like Abi Chatfield who
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Speaker 1: was told that she and a bought musician boyfriend that
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Speaker 1: made lovely parents, but she responded, oh, she was very sad.
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Speaker 1: Climate change means that would probably never happen. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you can't bring a child into this melting world? Can
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Speaker 1: you you know? It's just sick how politicians and journalists
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Speaker 1: and activists and even activist scientists have spread so much
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Speaker 1: fear that this poor woman and others like her are
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Speaker 1: too scared even to have a baby. And it's terrible
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Speaker 1: that this unreason has got so out of control of
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Speaker 1: all these crazy new green energy schemes. The ministrands now
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Speaker 1: face terrible energy bills, and that's in part on the
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Speaker 1: Labor government, the Labor Party, and I know there in
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Speaker 1: fact smart peace people in that party, I know them.
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Speaker 1: We must now be embarrassed and shamed that the Albaneza
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Speaker 1: government is busy the most in spreading the fear and
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Speaker 1: spreading on reason, spreading a new anti technology luddism. Now,
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Speaker 1: I think shows that better than the news today about
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Speaker 1: our energy minister. Global warming, extreams Chris Bone, who's over
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Speaker 1: at the latest United Nations Climate conference, and Azerbaidjan Bone
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Speaker 1: has said no there to an invitation from the United
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Speaker 1: Kingdom and the United States to join a global movement
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Speaker 1: to speed up the spread of civilian nuclear energy plants,
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Speaker 1: to invest more in research and to share technological breakthroughs.
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Speaker 1: Bones no was actually a vote against science. Now bear
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Speaker 1: in mind that this invitation came from two left wing
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Speaker 1: governments whose top energy people sign this steel yesterday say
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Speaker 1: nuclear power helped fight global warming by cutting carbon dioxide emissions,
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Speaker 1: and it gave the world more secure power, particularly for industry.
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Speaker 1: And they were actually, they're actually set in their press
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Speaker 1: release we expect Australia to join us soon, along with
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Speaker 1: a number of other countries well as if because everything
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Speaker 1: they were saying about nuclear power is indeed true. But
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Speaker 1: it's the truth that this alban Ezy government hates the here,
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Speaker 1: or actually correction, it hates you to hear you. See,
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Speaker 1: our government is trained desperately to persuade you that nuclear
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Speaker 1: power is so terrible, so expensive, so dangerous or whatever,
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Speaker 1: that it must stay banned forever in this country. But
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Speaker 1: of course almost all of our main competitors wanted. In fact,
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Speaker 1: thirty one thirty one countries at this climate conference have
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Speaker 1: now signed a declaration to actually triple the amount of
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Speaker 1: nuclear power to fight global warming. But our governments is known.
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Speaker 1: Our government is pretending that it alone knows better, actually
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to know better. It's got to know nothing.
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Speaker 1: Policy it's saying the latest sciencing technology is of no
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Speaker 1: interest to it. Here is the acting Prime Minister today.
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Speaker 2: Australian government is not signing this agreement because it is agreement.
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Speaker 1: Which goes to civil nuclear energy.
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Speaker 2: That means nuclear reactors which provide energy to cities and
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Speaker 2: to electricity grids, and we do not have that in
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Speaker 2: this country and so as a result, this agreement is
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Speaker 2: not relevant to Australia.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that shameful? You know, don't bother this government in
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Speaker 1: any of this new fangled scientifical technological breakthroughs if it
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Speaker 1: involves nuclear.
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Speaker 3: Australia is starting to become an international embarrassment under Chris
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Speaker 3: Bowen and mister Albanese. We can't achieve the outcomes that
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Speaker 3: we want for our economy of the environment without nuclear power.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, of course ministers of this anti science government keep
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Speaker 1: babbling technological untruth. It justifies sticking to their disast plan
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Speaker 1: to somehow power our economy with wind and solar power
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Speaker 1: instead power which comes and goes with the fading winds
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Speaker 1: or the fickles of the sun going down at night
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Speaker 1: with the clouds covering, falsely insisting that this power is
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Speaker 1: so cheap. Again, today the sun doesn't sell and send
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Speaker 1: it invoice.
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Speaker 4: The wind doesn't ask you to pay.
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Speaker 1: That is so childishly misleading, so dishonest. Lee is an
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Speaker 1: academic in the pass. He should be ashamed of himself.
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Speaker 1: Look coal in the ground Andrew doesn't send you a
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Speaker 1: bill either. Uranium isn't popping a little billing you a letterbox.
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Speaker 1: What does cost is turning the wind or the sun,
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Speaker 1: or the coal or the uranium into reliable, steady electricity.
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Speaker 1: And there's the costs obviously hooking up particularly all those
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Speaker 1: solar and wind farms scatterle over the country. That's horrendous.
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Speaker 1: That costs. That's where all this Now, just look at
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Speaker 1: the science. It tells you that the more wind and
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Speaker 1: solar power a country has, the higher its power bills
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Speaker 1: tend to be. Just like a strands are now finding too.
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Speaker 1: The government's wrong. And the reason for this is simple.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you go solar and wind, you then
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Speaker 1: need to pay for a second power system for total
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Speaker 1: backup for when there is no sun in the sky
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Speaker 1: or when the wind isn't blowing. Two systems. And what's more,
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Speaker 1: the more wind and soul you have, the more you
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Speaker 1: also have to pay for ways to make that supply
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Speaker 1: match the demand, and it's going with the wind and
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Speaker 1: clouds and everything. You've got to keep it stable, make
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Speaker 1: that flickering power stable. You have to create something that
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Speaker 1: will call you know, they call it inertia. You have
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Speaker 1: to create in your system. Now, we get that inertia
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Speaker 1: already from large rotating generators and COLI fired stations. They
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Speaker 1: just spin stably right when it's wold. I don't do that,
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Speaker 1: So that's another huge cost of adding that to the system.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know. This is all boringly technical. It's science,
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Speaker 1: which is probably why, exactly why this government doesn't seem
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Speaker 1: to include it in its plans. It doesn't do science.
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Speaker 1: It's war on science. It's ridiculous, it's ruinous, and it
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Speaker 1: means your power bills will never come down like the
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Speaker 1: government foolishly naively promised. Remember that promise cut your bills
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. Wondered how
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Speaker 1: got that wrong? But if you think that's bad, you
7:46
Speaker 1: just wait until we now get an electricity system which
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Speaker 1: you can't even rely on to work. Click the switch ups,
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Speaker 1: no power, not enough. How did we get to this
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Speaker 1: point where we have got hundreds of years of coal
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Speaker 1: under our feet, a third of the world's uranium, so
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Speaker 1: much gas oil. Only stupidity can explain what we've done
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Speaker 1: to our power system, only this new war on science.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is national center of met Canavan, the former
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Speaker 1: Resources Minister, Matt Good to see you again, as we
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Speaker 1: do every Tuesday. This government saying no to joining Britain
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Speaker 1: and the US in finding and sharing developments in nuclear
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Speaker 1: science to give people clean, reliable electricity. What is the
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Speaker 1: game here?
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Speaker 5: Well, for the Labor Party, this is clearly them putting
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Speaker 5: domestic policy interests.
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Speaker 1: Over our national interest.
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Speaker 5: The gain for them, or the perceived game they think
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Speaker 5: they'll get, is that by not joining it, they don't
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Speaker 5: embarrass themselves on the domestic political stage and can continue
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Speaker 5: their ridiculous and juvenile scare campaign on nuclear energy.
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Speaker 1: The problem for US.
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Speaker 5: Is that the Labor Party has already destroyed our nation's
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Speaker 5: energy security, and now they're in the process of destroying
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Speaker 5: our national security and national security as well. Not joining
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Speaker 5: an agreement that we were invited to do so by
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Speaker 5: our friends and allies, the UK and the US is
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Speaker 5: absolutely insane from a national security perspective. Keep in mind,
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Speaker 5: Andrew that Australia had always been a member of the
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Speaker 5: predecessor to this proposed agreement, the International Generation four Forum.
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Speaker 5: It was focused on developing new nuclear technologies, so called
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Speaker 5: Generation four technologies. Australia was still a member because we
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Speaker 5: actually do have some of the world's best nuclear scientists.
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Speaker 5: We have a nuclear actor at Lucas Heights thirty kilometers
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Speaker 5: from Sydney. We lead the world in nuclear medicine, so
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Speaker 5: we had something to provide to a forum on advanced
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Speaker 5: nuclear technologies, even if we weren't going to use the
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Speaker 5: energy technologies that came out of them, given our life here.
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Speaker 5: But this Labor Party has trashed all of that cooperation
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Speaker 5: we have done. They've trashed the record and the history
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Speaker 5: and the future of the great nuclear scientists we have
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Speaker 5: in this country because they are concerned about losing a
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Speaker 5: domestic political argument here. This goes beyond simply questions about
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Speaker 5: now how much our electricity prices will be in the future,
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Speaker 5: which now.
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Speaker 1: That will be higher under a labor government.
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Speaker 5: It is a Labor Party putting fire to the goodwill
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Speaker 5: that we have around the world, our scientific standing internationally,
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Speaker 5: and ultimately the security of all Austrains by not cooperating
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Speaker 5: with our allies.
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Speaker 1: We won't even indulge in nuclear science inquiries. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that is just so sick. But the opposition today, I
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Speaker 1: think Matt also needs to explain itself. I mean opporitionally
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Speaker 1: to Peter Dutton promised in May to set a cap
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Speaker 1: on overseas students to cut our insane immigration intake. But
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Speaker 1: now that the government wants to pass a law leading
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Speaker 1: it do just that and cut another one hundred thousand places,
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Speaker 1: Dunn't says no, using a bit of salary envy to
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Speaker 1: justify it.
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Speaker 3: Here is today what the government's doing under this so
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Speaker 3: called cap is baking in a benefit to the bigger universities.
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Speaker 3: Mark Scott made one point four billion dollars in one
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Speaker 3: year and the government essentially is baking in that opportunity
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Speaker 3: for the University of Sydney and the other seven. And
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Speaker 3: that's not something that we're going to support.
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Speaker 1: Now. Mtcanavan is not supporting the government's plan to cap
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Speaker 1: student numbers to give it the power to do that.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that just playing politics when it's something the opposition
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Speaker 1: said it wanted to do.
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Speaker 5: No, it's not, Andrew, because this proposal completely destroys many
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Speaker 5: good small businesses in this country. Peter Dutton also said
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Speaker 5: today that we would cut student numbers even more than
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Speaker 5: the government. We just would do it in a way
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Speaker 5: which didn't destroy Australian businesses. Just to give you one
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Speaker 5: example among many among the victims of this government's proposal
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Speaker 5: hap hazard, an ad hoc proposal, is there's an institution
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Speaker 5: called the Queensland Institute. They were two hundred students normally
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Speaker 5: pre pandemic. They had those numbers. They've been offered just
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Speaker 5: thirty places under this government's cap scheme. That will destroy
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Speaker 5: their business. And I've met with many of them in
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Speaker 5: my home state of Queensland, where because the government is
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Speaker 5: using a twenty twenty three baseline to do these numbers,
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Speaker 5: and they're knocking thirty percent off this baseline. Many of
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Speaker 5: these institutions weren't recovered from COVID and we will just
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Speaker 5: destroy and put hundreds of Australians, thousands of Austrains out
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Speaker 5: of work if we were to implement the caps in
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Speaker 5: this way. The government can already cap student numbers through
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Speaker 5: its use of visas. The reason we're in this mess
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Speaker 5: is because they just handed out visas when they came
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Speaker 5: to government like candy, and they've subsequently taken in five
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Speaker 5: hundred thousand people.
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Speaker 1: A year on average for the last two years. Ridiculous numbers.
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Speaker 5: They can use that, and they could do it in
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Speaker 5: a much more sophisticated way, which yes does share the
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Speaker 5: burden among the public universities that Peter identified, but also
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Speaker 5: importantly doesn't destroy small business in Australia. They built up
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Speaker 5: their business over many decades. They train, they do good jobs,
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Speaker 5: training pilots and nurses and boiler makers, all just useful trades.
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Speaker 5: These are out of the spotlight sort of colleges. Why
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Speaker 5: should they have their livelihoods Australians have their livelihoods destroyed
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Speaker 5: because this government is in a knee jerk style trying
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Speaker 5: to react to a problem of their own making.
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Speaker 1: No, they would have thought they could at least negotiate
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Speaker 1: maybe some changes. But still now. I said earlier that
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Speaker 1: Injie Minister Chris Bowen matt is at this United Nations
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Speaker 1: Climate conference in Azerbaijan scares me. He's got to have
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Speaker 1: money in his pocket than is over there green groups.
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Speaker 1: I got to climate hypocrisy is just so rough. Green
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Speaker 1: groups have called for new rules at this conference to
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Speaker 1: stop us eating so much meat, save the planet, eat
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Speaker 1: less meat. But I see the climate delegates at the
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Speaker 1: same conference crowding the restaurant that's selling meat dish and
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Speaker 1: generally giving a swerve to the vegetarian restaurant right next door.
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Speaker 1: What does that tell you.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think we all know. We all know Andrew
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Speaker 5: that if only we could bottle the hypocrisy that comes
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Speaker 5: out of these climate conferences and somehow turn it into electricity,
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Speaker 5: we possibly could have that free power that the likes
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Speaker 5: of Andrew Lee were promoting before.
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Speaker 1: Because their hypocrisy.
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Speaker 5: Seems to be of infinite supply, free supply, whether it's
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Speaker 5: the planes they travel to to these conferences, their diets
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Speaker 5: as you say, and their consumption habits as well. I mean,
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Speaker 5: this is why they have no credibility among any sensible
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Speaker 5: people around the world. They remain, unfortunately a Brahman class
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Speaker 5: among us who think they're better than us and want
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Speaker 5: to write the rules for the rest of us.
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Speaker 1: But as we've seen with the results of the US.
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Speaker 5: Election many other elections around the world, these people have
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Speaker 5: no credibility, and the vast bulk of the common sense
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Speaker 5: of people in Western countries see through them completely. We
15:01
Speaker 5: just need to show some leadership, including on my own side, Andrew.
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Speaker 5: So we need some leadership to show those people, to
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Speaker 5: give us those people a batter to rally behind.
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Speaker 1: And so it doesn't have to be this way. We
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Speaker 1: don't have to sign up to net zero missions.
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Speaker 5: We don't have to shut down all our coal fire
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Speaker 5: powerstations just because someone better than you thinks they're better
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Speaker 5: than you, says that you have to. Why don't we
15:19
Speaker 5: use our natural resources again for the benefit of the
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Speaker 5: Australian people. That would be a winning electoral message in
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Speaker 5: my book. Plus it would help make our country lucky
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Speaker 5: and wealthy again.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope the rest of your party heard that.
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Speaker 1: I know there are some that I totally agree with you.
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Speaker 1: Of course, I hope they heard that. And I think
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Speaker 1: the Donald Trump administration, with its plans, is really going
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Speaker 1: to put the fire under the feet of your party
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Speaker 1: as well as the Albanezi government. MC canavan, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for your time. Race politics. The race politics
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Speaker 1: in New Zealand, I've got to say, is a warning
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Speaker 1: to us in Australia. You know, we think god activity
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Speaker 1: saying oh we signed a treaty, we'll just you know,
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Speaker 1: fix it, we'll even harmony. No New Zealand proves it
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Speaker 1: will just make things worse. And today today we saw
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Speaker 1: the end of a mass march on the New Zealand
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Speaker 1: Parliament of people protesting against the bill to change the
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Speaker 1: interpretation of the Whititangy treaty. It's under treaty in eighteen
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Speaker 1: forty already between Maori tribes and the British. Now the
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Speaker 1: Act Party, which is one of the parties forming the
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Speaker 1: coalition government over there, warns that this interpretation has going
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Speaker 1: completely off the rails. The modern interpretation has been changed
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Speaker 1: so that citizens, well, they don't get an equal say anymore.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's it's like seventeen percent of New Zealanders
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Speaker 1: who identify as Mary, they're now getting an equal say
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Speaker 1: in the control of some resources like water to the
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Speaker 1: eighty three percent who are not. Or that it was
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Speaker 1: under the former Labor government. Now that's unequal, that's undemocratic.
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Speaker 1: But as I say, you know, that's the kind of
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Speaker 1: race politics. To get with race politics, it is undemocratic fundamentally,
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Speaker 1: and we saw that already last week in the New
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Speaker 1: Zealand Parliament been politicians and the Maori Party having lost
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Speaker 1: the Democratic vote shut down that parliament with a war dance,
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Speaker 1: trying to intimidate the head of that act party, David Seymour.
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Speaker 1: That was their protest against David Seymour's bill, which would
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Speaker 1: give to New Zealanders the equal right as citizens, whatever
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Speaker 1: their race, equal political rights. I thought that was a
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Speaker 1: no brainer. But anyway, those politicians complaining about that doing
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Speaker 1: a war dance instead should have been mocked by the media,
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Speaker 1: not treated se I mean, why didn't some just change
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Speaker 1: the music to show exactly what fools they really are.
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Speaker 1: When you don't know these war cries, they are deafening you.
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Speaker 1: But today again these protests against one person, one vote
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Speaker 1: democracy were treated like an overwhelming force. You know, forty
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Speaker 1: thousand in the marching. We were told forty five, but
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Speaker 1: all their photos suggest that there actually many, many fewer.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't hear any real argument from them on
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Speaker 1: why treating New Zealanders as individuals with equal rights is wrong.
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Speaker 1: Killed the bioll.
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Speaker 5: We don't disagree with it.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't need to happen, it doesn't Okay, we are
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Speaker 1: a unity, We're one people.
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Speaker 2: That's all we want.
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Speaker 6: Feel really frustrated and really angry, and you know, and
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Speaker 6: it's not right. It's not right that what they're doing
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Speaker 6: to our people. And it's not only for us, but
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Speaker 6: for us as a country, as our and as a nation.
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Speaker 1: So if there are one people, why not treat people
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Speaker 1: as exactly the same? Why racial the vision talking against yourself?
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Speaker 1: Lady joining me is the man pushing this bill to
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Speaker 1: take race out of politics regulations means that David Seymour,
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Speaker 1: David Seymour, thank you so much for your time. What
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Speaker 1: did you learn from this protest today and, by the way,
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Speaker 1: from that ridiculous harker that was performed in your face
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Speaker 1: last week?
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Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things. One is there are people
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Speaker 7: who aren't prepared to have a discussion. They'd rather just assert.
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Speaker 7: And I think really what happened last week was the
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Speaker 7: harker on the floor of Parliament. It showed a total
19:48
Speaker 7: lack of understanding about how parliamentary democracy works. And not
19:53
Speaker 7: to go over it again and again, but basically, not
19:57
Speaker 7: everyone can fit in the chamber, so people choose representatives
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Speaker 7: to speak on their behalf. It's critical that they can
20:04
Speaker 7: speak fearlessly and without any intimidation or even attempted intimidation.
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Speaker 7: Otherwise you're taking away the voice of those people. So
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Speaker 7: a total disrespect for democracy, a total disrespect for the
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Speaker 7: voters by people who believe that they have the truth
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Speaker 7: and the light and the rules needn't apply to them.
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Speaker 7: I think that is a real shame. But ultimately the
20:29
Speaker 7: great thing about democracy and an open parliament is that
20:33
Speaker 7: it gets to be seen by the people. And I
20:35
Speaker 7: suspect that while they feel getting a good run on
20:37
Speaker 7: social media and everyone likes them, actually I'll be finding
20:42
Speaker 7: that people aren't quite so sure in the long term
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Speaker 7: if they want people who are incapable of having a
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Speaker 7: civil dialogue as their representatives.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's in fact an obvious problem with race politics,
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Speaker 1: that it takes away from democracy and brings in an
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Speaker 1: implied use of force for intimidation. Now today's protests, though, look,
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing the most amazing figures the police saying forty
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Speaker 1: thousand sort of media report, forty five thousand people marching there.
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Speaker 1: I had to look at the photos and the footage
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Speaker 1: of the crowd. That is absolutely ridiculous. Plus I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear a single good argument from the people being quoted
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Speaker 1: from it. What did you learn from this?
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Speaker 7: Well, of course, the New Zealand government's very proud that
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Speaker 7: we seem to be getting on top of monetary inflation.
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Speaker 7: Our official inflation statistic for the last quarter was only
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Speaker 7: two point two percent. However, it's been replaced by a
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Speaker 7: new fall of inflation, and that's crowd inflation, perpetrated not
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Speaker 7: by our central bank but by our media. Official estimates
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Speaker 7: I've heard were fifteen thousand and one to five thousand
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Speaker 7: people were there, and that's credible, But I've just seen
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Speaker 7: a media report that says forty five thousand you wake
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Speaker 7: up tomorrow. I suspect that by tomorrow morning the crowd
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Speaker 7: will be sixty thousand, and by the weekend it'll be
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Speaker 7: eighty thousand.
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Speaker 1: I think by the end of the year, every single
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Speaker 1: New Zealand it would have been there, including you. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous. If it's only fifteen thousand,
22:16
Speaker 1: they may as well have stayed at home. This is
22:18
Speaker 1: showing how little support there is for it. But that said,
22:22
Speaker 1: the media is really inflating this, as you suggest, inflating
22:26
Speaker 1: it as a cause as well. So what's going to
22:29
Speaker 1: happen with this bill now? The premise is only supporting
22:32
Speaker 1: you for the first reading in Parliament, is not going
22:35
Speaker 1: to support you. It seems on the second reading you
22:37
Speaker 1: actually get it through Parliament. What's the best you can
22:40
Speaker 1: now expect with your bill?
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Speaker 7: Well, what's happened is this morning the Justice Select Committee
22:47
Speaker 7: has opened up for public submissions. I expect there'll be
22:50
Speaker 7: a great many of them, and that allows us to
22:53
Speaker 7: see the future of our country being put into the
22:56
Speaker 7: hands of the people who have to live under those rules,
22:59
Speaker 7: because you see to try and get across how significant
23:02
Speaker 7: I think this is. For a very long time, a
23:05
Speaker 7: huge number of people have been told that if unless
23:09
Speaker 7: you're a self appointed expert, a treaty lawyer, an EWE leader,
23:15
Speaker 7: then you don't have a role to play in interpreting
23:18
Speaker 7: the treaty of white tongue that belongs to someone else.
23:21
Speaker 7: Then my view, we actually need to be a country
23:25
Speaker 7: that's modern and mature, multi ethnic, has a place for everybody,
23:28
Speaker 7: and everybody has a right to have a say about
23:30
Speaker 7: its future. What we've just done today is open that
23:34
Speaker 7: whole debate about the treaty up to everyone, allow everyone
23:37
Speaker 7: to have a voice. And if you doubt that, just
23:40
Speaker 7: look at the behavior of my opponents. Even the ones
23:42
Speaker 7: who say that the bill won't go anywhere are determined
23:46
Speaker 7: not for it to be debated, because what they really
23:49
Speaker 7: fear is the idea that each of us, being thinking
23:52
Speaker 7: and valuing individuals, have a right to have a say
23:55
Speaker 7: about our own future. That's what we've really done today,
23:57
Speaker 7: and that's what they're truly opposed to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had no idea that one person, one vote
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Speaker 1: would be so radical, seen as so right wing. I mean,
24:07
Speaker 1: my goodness, has everything changed. But did you ever think,
24:11
Speaker 1: you know, with your own mari ancestry that why don't
24:15
Speaker 1: you play along with this race politics too? I tell
24:17
Speaker 1: you your life would have been a lot simpler, you
24:20
Speaker 1: would have got a lot more love from the media
24:22
Speaker 1: had you done that.
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Speaker 7: Well, I don't hide from my Ori heritage. That's how
24:29
Speaker 7: you know about it. But I also believe that it's
24:33
Speaker 7: important to try and leave your country better off as
24:37
Speaker 7: a result of you being in politics. And if I've
24:40
Speaker 7: done nothing else today, I've put on the table as
24:43
Speaker 7: a legitimate view the idea that our Treaty is a
24:46
Speaker 7: wonderful document, but you've got to actually read what it says.
24:49
Speaker 7: It says we all have the same rights and duties,
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Speaker 7: and that is actually a fantastic foundation for any country.
24:55
Speaker 7: It's just not what we've been observing in recent times, but.
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Speaker 1: They oversee more of longer as you probably know, ad
25:03
Speaker 1: Marriage for your courage and your principle in this, I
25:05
Speaker 1: think it's a really important fight. Even if you lose,
25:08
Speaker 1: you win because you've made it, as you say, a
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Speaker 1: legitimate subject for conversation, and I think long term it
25:14
Speaker 1: has to go your way. Might take a long time,
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Speaker 1: you might not still be there, but I think this
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Speaker 1: is really important. Thank you for your effort, David Symour,
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. Don't
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Speaker 1: you think it's absolutely astonishing that a concept of one person,
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Speaker 1: one vote, regardless of the race, of ancestry history relative
25:38
Speaker 1: one person, one vote is now seen as something so outrageous.
25:43
Speaker 1: You've got thousands of people in the streets of New
25:46
Speaker 1: Zealand complaining about a guy that's got a bill to
25:50
Speaker 1: try to reassert that fundamental human right, and you've got
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Speaker 1: a Prime Minister in New Zealand regardless to say absolutely
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Speaker 1: we're going to insist on that. And in fact, the
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Speaker 1: same sort of stupidity is growing here, isn't it. We're
26:06
Speaker 1: somehow we're going to be divided by a race with
26:08
Speaker 1: different rights. I'll have something more to say about that tomorrow.
26:11
Speaker 1: Really interesting interview coming up well after the break. Angry
26:16
Speaker 1: residents call the protest meeting for tonight after the state
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Speaker 1: government renamed their lake after a founder of a religion.
26:25
Speaker 1: And you guess that it's sure isn't Jesus Christ, because
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Speaker 1: that would be bad. Now. News from the latest battle
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Speaker 1: in the war against woke, this time a battle against
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Speaker 1: our political elite, celebrating every culture about our own, or
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Speaker 1: the foundation culture of this wonderfully free and rich society. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: locals in Berwick and Nara Warren in Melbourne South they're
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Speaker 1: holding a meeting with their local politicians to protest about
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Speaker 1: a decision by the Victorian Labor government to rename a
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Speaker 1: local lake the Barrett Springs Lake in honor of the
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Speaker 1: Indian founder of the Sikh religion. It's now going to
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Speaker 1: be called the Guru Nanak Lake. And more than five
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Speaker 1: thousand people have signed a petition in protest. And it's
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Speaker 1: no wonder for a start, most Australians, at least half
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Speaker 1: are still Christian. But there is no way that this
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Speaker 1: Labor government, of course, would even think of calling this
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Speaker 1: lake the Jesus Christ Lake, because that would be divisive
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Speaker 1: and exclusionary and all the terrible words. But the Guru
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Speaker 1: Nanak Lake apparently that's fine, even though just four percent
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Speaker 1: of the locals there are Sikh, and I guess that
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Speaker 1: Planning Minister so Sonya Kilkenny was really just keing for
27:47
Speaker 1: the vote, operating under Labour's slice and dice multicultural politics.
27:52
Speaker 1: But there's something else that's curious about this renaming. This
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Speaker 1: ludicrously woke government is renaming them under its name a
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Speaker 1: place program, which asks the public for suggestions on his website,
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Speaker 1: saying that for someone to be commemorated with a place name,
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Speaker 1: that person will be deceased or have left the lasting
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Speaker 1: legacy and have a long association with the nominated area.
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Speaker 1: But of course Guru Nanak never left in the ears
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Speaker 1: certainly never visited Berrick Springs before he died nearly four
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Speaker 1: hundred years ago. So this really does look like colonialization, colonization,
28:36
Speaker 1: not multiculturalism. Okay, this is colonization, a sort of takeover.
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Speaker 1: I was joined a short while ago by the local
28:42
Speaker 1: state mem before the area Brad bat is going to
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Speaker 1: this meeting is also the opposition's police spokesman. Brad Baton
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this meeting tonight.
28:52
Speaker 1: What's the aim.
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Speaker 8: There, Yea, Andrew, this is a community coming to us
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Speaker 8: and they've got genuine concerns about the consultation they had
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Speaker 8: about aiming the Beerrick Springs Lake to the Guru Nanak
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Speaker 8: Reserve or Nanak Lake. And the people are concerned because
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Speaker 8: they weren't consulted. And this is nothing new from this government.
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Speaker 8: We've been involved with other things in the area, the
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Speaker 8: Beaconsfield Reservoir. They weren't consulted about the changes up there.
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Speaker 8: Our fight here is nothing to do with that local
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Speaker 8: community and the Sikh community, who do an amazing job
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Speaker 8: in the local area. Our fighter is with the government
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Speaker 8: to say that you've got to consult with the local
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Speaker 8: constituents when you're making such a big change.
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Speaker 1: But Charlie, it's about more than more than just a
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Speaker 1: lack of consult consultation that and I mean, this government
29:38
Speaker 1: would never dream of naming a lake after Jesus Christ,
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Speaker 1: say Okay, or Mary Magdalene or Saint Paul, but it's
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Speaker 1: named it after another religious figure from a different religion,
29:49
Speaker 1: complete the Sikh religion, and naming it not after a
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Speaker 1: local even but someone who never left India. What do
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Speaker 1: you think the agenda is here?
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Speaker 8: Very public on this, Andrew and said that renaming any
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Speaker 8: government facilities after religious names can only be divisive, It
30:07
Speaker 8: can only create issues, and this is the example of
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Speaker 8: what can happen, So people want to be very cautious
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Speaker 8: when you start doing this. I wouldn't, as you exactly
30:15
Speaker 8: rightly said, I wouldn't have a park that was called
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Speaker 8: Jesus or God Park. But I may name a park
30:20
Speaker 8: after Father Bob for the work he did in the
30:22
Speaker 8: local community as a religious figure. But he's someone who's
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Speaker 8: genuinely given back and even under their own criteria for
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Speaker 8: name a park or name a place, under the government's criteria,
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Speaker 8: this wouldn't comply. And because it wouldn't comply, I think
30:36
Speaker 8: that's why they haven't done the consultation. But we want
30:39
Speaker 8: to be careful because people are arguing with me saying
30:41
Speaker 8: that Brad, we've got Mary McKellop's school and St John
30:44
Speaker 8: of God Hospital.
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Speaker 9: That's correct, they're private enterprises.
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Speaker 8: They's nothing to do with government, and the government's decisions
30:50
Speaker 8: to make. This choice shouldn't be to put a religion
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Speaker 8: in there, because it's only divisive and may prevent some
30:55
Speaker 8: people using specific areas.
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Speaker 1: Yes, no problem with their local Seeks and calling one
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Speaker 1: of their temples the Guru Nanak temple. That's absolutely their
31:06
Speaker 1: privilege and right. And if they want to set up
31:09
Speaker 1: a hospital and name it the Guru Nanak Hospital, again
31:12
Speaker 1: that's up to them. But what it's the state government's
31:15
Speaker 1: hypocrisy and picking and choosing that's in Maya's sites at
31:20
Speaker 1: the moment. For instance, I see the board that the
31:23
Speaker 1: state government has put up at the lake. It pays
31:25
Speaker 1: respects to Seeks, it pays respects to Aboriginal elders and
31:29
Speaker 1: at the ends as a permanent sign will be erected
31:32
Speaker 1: at the lake after consultation with traditional owners, with Sikhs,
31:36
Speaker 1: the local council in Melbourne Water. It won't be consulting,
31:39
Speaker 1: of course, with their many other ethnic groups that use
31:41
Speaker 1: the lake, paid for the rates and built Berrick. Like
31:45
Speaker 1: I said, this seems to be a part of a
31:46
Speaker 1: policy to honor every culture except the Australian one. How
31:50
Speaker 1: do you see that?
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Speaker 8: Look, I agree this is part of the concern we've god,
31:54
Speaker 8: it's actually how they're doing that consultation and to put
31:56
Speaker 8: it into perspective when we spoke about private versus public.
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Speaker 8: Was actually involved with the Goodwara down in Officer. Who
32:03
Speaker 8: is it is a nuneu In Officer, an amazing group,
32:06
Speaker 8: an amazing organization that had issues with the local community.
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Speaker 8: We fought so they could be where they are and
32:12
Speaker 8: make sure they could have that freedom of religion, something
32:14
Speaker 8: we're still back today. But now what you're seeing is
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Speaker 8: the process for a government facility, a government lake run
32:20
Speaker 8: by Melbourne Water, and we're actually seeing it through Bearck
32:22
Speaker 8: Springs where the local community had to pay infrastructure costs
32:26
Speaker 8: to get that lake established. To maintain it, they pay
32:28
Speaker 8: extra in their rates so it's maintained to a higher
32:31
Speaker 8: standard than most parks in the area, but they didn't
32:34
Speaker 8: get a say in what happens. That lake has a
32:36
Speaker 8: very long traditional name. Anyone who's trying to argue that
32:39
Speaker 8: it wasn't named, they're wrong. It was actually named after
32:42
Speaker 8: the original farm in the area, which was the springs.
32:46
Speaker 8: It's been with the water coming from the Bearck Springs
32:48
Speaker 8: and became Bereck Springs Lake. Because it wasn't gazetted doesn't
32:52
Speaker 8: mean it didn't have a name.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, the whole thing is so ridiculous. Let them call
32:58
Speaker 1: a lake the Jesus Christ Lake, and then let's talk
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Speaker 1: about the Guru Nanac Lake after that. But they won't
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Speaker 1: do the first. They'll say it's too divisive, but they
33:06
Speaker 1: will do the second and not realize exactly the divisions
33:10
Speaker 1: that you're trying to address. See here, Brad Batton, and
33:13
Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to know what comes out of
33:15
Speaker 1: that meeting tonight. Thank you very much for your time.
33:18
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. After break Bolt Report, regular Sean
33:23
Speaker 1: Sparser is just back from Donald Trump's home. Has got
33:25
Speaker 1: some Gass's going to tell us the mood there and
33:27
Speaker 1: whether el Or Musk is really on the outer with
33:30
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Maybe Overstad is welcome too long. The next
33:37
Speaker 1: two months are so dangerous for the West. US President
33:40
Speaker 1: Joe Barden is the Lamoss of lame ducks, and there's
33:43
Speaker 1: a power vacumuntal. Donald Trump is sworn in his place
33:46
Speaker 1: in two months. And China and it's allo Russia. They're
33:49
Speaker 1: exploiting it. Russia is now accused of cutting two important
33:53
Speaker 1: UNDERWOD data cables over the past two days, one from
33:57
Speaker 1: Finland to Germany, the other from Sweden to Lithuania. Those
34:00
Speaker 1: two countries border Russian territory and they fear they could
34:03
Speaker 1: be next to Ukraine falls. And Sweden's Minister for Civil
34:07
Speaker 1: Defense has distributed this booklet to Swedish homes if the
34:10
Speaker 1: crisis or war comes, so they can get ready. Meanwhile,
34:14
Speaker 1: Russia is launching mass attacks and Ukrainian forces with the
34:18
Speaker 1: help of North Korean soldiers, and it's attacking Ukrainian cities,
34:21
Speaker 1: especially Ukrainian electricity and water infrastructure. Now, at least President
34:28
Speaker 1: Joe Baden did, as I said last night, finally let
34:31
Speaker 1: Ukraine fire American long range missiles three hundred kilometers into
34:35
Speaker 1: Russian territory. But even that belated move has outraged the
34:40
Speaker 1: anti Ukraine and pro Russian voices in Trump's inner circles,
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Speaker 1: including Trump's son Donald Junior, who tweeted the military industrial
34:49
Speaker 1: complex seems to want to make sure they get World
34:52
Speaker 1: War three going before my father has a chance to
34:54
Speaker 1: create peace to save lives. Imbeciles joined me from America.
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Speaker 1: Is Sewan Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean
35:05
Speaker 1: Spicer is great to see you again, Donald Trump. Is
35:08
Speaker 1: he really is anti Ukraine as his son Don Junior?
35:11
Speaker 1: Is he really going to cut off military aid as
35:14
Speaker 1: soon as he gets in.
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Speaker 9: I don't know. I know that he wants a deal.
35:18
Speaker 10: Look, the bottom line is the world was a safer
35:21
Speaker 10: place when Donald Trump was president. It was the first
35:24
Speaker 10: administration going back several where Russia didn't annex or invade
35:29
Speaker 10: another country, right, I mean, think about that for a minute.
35:32
Speaker 10: I mean, so he is a deal maker, and I
35:35
Speaker 10: think he wants to figure out how to strike a
35:37
Speaker 10: deal and end this incursion. It's costing lives and treasure
35:41
Speaker 10: and cash and funding in so many ways. So I
35:45
Speaker 10: think he's going to want to get a deal more
35:47
Speaker 10: than anything in that and frankly in the Gaza Israel
35:52
Speaker 10: conflict as well.
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Speaker 1: Well, we shall see, but I think his son is
35:56
Speaker 1: a little off the leash. There's a lot of controversy.
36:00
Speaker 1: Some of Donald Trump's pick so far, some we've discussed them,
36:03
Speaker 1: are excellent. But then there's people like Tulsey Gabbard as
36:07
Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence. She's been extremely pro Russia and
36:11
Speaker 1: I would say very naive at times. And then you've
36:14
Speaker 1: got Matt Gates. This Attorney general has now been accused
36:18
Speaker 1: of paying women for sex, including a seventeen year old,
36:21
Speaker 1: and he denies it, but a lawyer for two of
36:24
Speaker 1: the women has now come forward.
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Speaker 11: Here is both of your clients testified that they were
36:29
Speaker 11: paid by Representative Gates to have sex.
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Speaker 1: That's correct. The House was very clear about that and
36:34
Speaker 1: went through each They essentially put the venmill payments on
36:37
Speaker 1: the screen and asked about them, and my clients repeatedly testified,
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Speaker 1: what was uspena for without that was for sex? Shauan
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Speaker 1: Spae Is the Senate really going to approve this pick?
36:47
Speaker 1: Matt Gates is Attorney General.
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Speaker 10: Look, I think when it comes to all of the
36:51
Speaker 10: President's nominees, he's seen the movie before, if you will
36:56
Speaker 10: this time around, he wants people who are going to
36:59
Speaker 10: fight for his agenda and to get things done, not
37:02
Speaker 10: be there for themselves. And whether you like Matt Gates
37:06
Speaker 10: or not, the bottom line is Matt Gates has been
37:08
Speaker 10: fighting for President Trump since day one. He's at almost
37:12
Speaker 10: every rally of his He is a fierce defender of
37:15
Speaker 10: his online and on television programs, and I think the
37:18
Speaker 10: President admires the way that Matt goes out and fights
37:22
Speaker 10: for the President's agenda and his policies, and that's what
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Speaker 10: he wants, not just among Matt, but Pete Haggs at
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Speaker 10: the DoD and Robert F. Kennedy at the Department of
37:30
Speaker 10: Health and Human Services, Doug Bergham at the Energy Department
37:33
Speaker 10: or the Interior Department.
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Speaker 9: Rather, so you're going.
37:36
Speaker 10: To continue to see people who have been have demonstrated
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Speaker 10: to President Trump that they understand why they're getting nominated,
37:44
Speaker 10: not to suit their own interests, but.
37:45
Speaker 9: To advance the America first policy interests Sean.
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Speaker 1: We're hearing all sorts of stories what it's like down
37:53
Speaker 1: at Mari Lago, where Donald Trump's Florida home. Half of
37:58
Speaker 1: America that wants a job seems to be flying down
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Speaker 1: there to President give me this, give me that you've
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Speaker 1: got Elon Musk, the world's richest man, head of Tesla,
38:08
Speaker 1: head of x or x Twitter down there almost daily,
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Speaker 1: it seems, and he seems to be well. Reports say,
38:17
Speaker 1: having outstate, is welcome with a few key Trump advisors,
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Speaker 1: it seems to be wanting to be everywhere. What do
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Speaker 1: you know of that you've been down there? What's the
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Speaker 1: atmosphere down there? And is Elon Musker? I'm welcome now?
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Speaker 9: I was down there Thursday. He seemed very much welcome.
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Speaker 10: The President actually comment and how much he's enjoying Elon's presence.
38:38
Speaker 10: I think there are going to be some people who
38:40
Speaker 10: want to assert their authority and their prowess, and so
38:44
Speaker 10: they're going to get tired of Elon.
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Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, all that.
38:46
Speaker 10: Matters is is Donald Trump, and he seems to be
38:49
Speaker 10: enjoying Elon's counsel and friendship. So until that happens, it
38:53
Speaker 10: doesn't matter what a bunch of the aids think.
38:55
Speaker 9: It all comes down to what President Trump thinks.
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Speaker 10: And frankly, from what I can tell from the photos
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Speaker 10: that get posted on social media, it sounds like the
39:02
Speaker 10: families enjoying Elon's presence as well.
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Speaker 1: And what was the atmosphere down do you like? Sean?
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Speaker 9: You know what, Andrew? It was jubilant. People were giddy, excited.
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Speaker 9: I was trying to.
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Speaker 10: Figure this out and I'm actually trying to write a
39:20
Speaker 10: column on it because I wanted to put it into words.
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Speaker 10: After twenty sixteen, I think we felt excited, but at
39:25
Speaker 10: the same time, we were immediately told by the left
39:28
Speaker 10: in the media that our victory was hollow.
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Speaker 9: It was Russia that did this.
39:31
Speaker 10: We didn't win the popular vote, and they immediately wanted
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Speaker 10: to downplay the significance of Donald Trump's historic win in
39:37
Speaker 10: twenty sixteen. This time, when I went down to mar
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Speaker 10: A Lago and there were just countless of my former
39:43
Speaker 10: colleagues down there and a lot of his big supporters,
39:46
Speaker 10: it really was this sense of we really did at
39:49
Speaker 10: this time. We won the popular vote, we crushed it
39:51
Speaker 10: in the electoral college vote, we made gains with blacks
39:54
Speaker 10: and Hispanic voters, young people, women, and so this idea
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Speaker 10: that the victory was so undeniably real was on almost
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Speaker 10: everybody's faces. I mean, you just walked through. Everybody had
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Speaker 10: a permegrane on their on their face. It was just
40:09
Speaker 10: so excited, ready to celebrate. I thought twenty sixteen was
40:13
Speaker 10: pretty special. It'd always be have a special place for me.
40:17
Speaker 10: But I will tell you that I think the extent
40:20
Speaker 10: and the breath and the depth at which Donald Trump
40:23
Speaker 10: won this election is something that everybody down there is
40:27
Speaker 10: reveling in.
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Speaker 1: Sure. And Sposer, thank you so much indeed for your
40:30
Speaker 1: time you had.
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Speaker 10: Andrew.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you after the break. The day after,
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Speaker 1: China's dictator tells our prime minister he were friends again. China,
40:42
Speaker 1: Jiles and Australian Democracy activists for seven years. China just
40:49
Speaker 1: kicked sand in Australia's face again. Yesterday, a Prime minister
40:53
Speaker 1: was in Rio telling Chinese dictator Jijinping how nice it
40:56
Speaker 1: had been when Albany's he visited Beijing last year.
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Speaker 12: Let me express as well my appreciation for your tremendous
41:06
Speaker 12: hospitality when I visited Beijing last year and where we
41:12
Speaker 12: have recommenced our leaders meet leader to momer meetings.
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Speaker 1: The two even held hands for a group photo of
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Speaker 1: g Twitt leaders there at the front right of this
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Speaker 1: shot like real best these and gitld Albanizi. Yes, over
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Speaker 1: the past decade we have made some progress and China
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Speaker 1: austrain relations also witness on twists and turns amid the
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Speaker 1: Morrison government had been bad, but he did warn this
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Speaker 1: recent progress should be maintained with great care. Yet just
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Speaker 1: one day later, China has jailed Australian Gordon Inger for
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Speaker 1: more than seven years for protesting for democracy in Hong Kong.
41:49
Speaker 1: Forty six others were sentenced through up to ten years jail.
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Speaker 1: Now good and form is a penny Wong for attacking
41:55
Speaker 1: this sentence in a tweet. But where was Albinizi talking
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Speaker 1: to g and camera, camera and Rio he said not
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Speaker 1: one critical word to him, though later he said, oh,
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Speaker 1: well he did mention human rights in private. Well that's
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Speaker 1: really helpful. Joining me is the panel. Will Kingston hostar
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Speaker 1: at Will the podcast from The Spectator Politican Culture Asconi's
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Speaker 1: host Anika di Georgia of Danika and James every Sunday
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Speaker 1: at eight pm will Friendship with China one day, another
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Speaker 1: Australian jailed by China the next four demanding democracy. What
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Speaker 1: does that tell you?
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Speaker 4: Well, Kis Starmer raised this two g's face and it's
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Speaker 4: a very very sad day when an invertebrate like Kis
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Speaker 4: Starmer shows more spine than the Prime Minister of Australia Andrew.
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Speaker 4: There's two ways you can probably look at this. There
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Speaker 4: is the principle and then there's the practicalities. On principle,
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Speaker 4: of course, Alberesi should have spoken up for an Australian
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Speaker 4: who has been unjustly jailed by an evil authoritarian regime,
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Speaker 4: and for me, that's probably the start and the end
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Speaker 4: of the matter. What I would say is that it
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Speaker 4: also shows on the practical side that Alberesi is in
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Speaker 4: a difficult position to give him some dispensation because this country, Australia,
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Speaker 4: has not done enough to wean itself off the rivers
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Speaker 4: of gold that China still provides us and which our
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Speaker 4: economy relies upon. There is a very good chance the
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Speaker 4: US will be at war with China by the end
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Speaker 4: of the decade, which means we will be at war
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Speaker 4: with China by the end of the decade. And unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: we haven't done enough to move up the value chaining commodities.
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Speaker 4: We haven't done enough to diversify beyond China with other
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Speaker 4: trading partners, and as a result, we are going to
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Speaker 4: be a heck of a lot of problems if we
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Speaker 4: can't work out a way to run an economy that
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Speaker 4: is wholly reliant on China. It's the big thing that
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Speaker 4: I don't think enough of us are talking about.
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Speaker 1: The will rais is a really interesting point that Danika,
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Speaker 1: I've worried about this for a long time, that Albinizi
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Speaker 1: says we can't go too hard on China because we're
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Speaker 1: so dependent. But it's spent the last three years making
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Speaker 1: us more dependent by demanding more and more trade with China.
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Speaker 1: Fewer of Chinese bands against their imports.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, while China punished Australia with those tariffs, and
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Speaker 11: Australia has sat on its hands in the last few years,
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Speaker 11: not diversifying, not looking to other countries to grow, and now.
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Speaker 9: We're in a really sticky spot.
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Speaker 11: And quite frankly, China is playing Australia like a violin.
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Speaker 1: Here.
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Speaker 11: China does whatever China wants to do, and it can
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Speaker 11: sense weakness in Anthony Albanisi. I mean you look at
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Speaker 11: the dialogue from today's meeting Andrew President. She said that
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Speaker 11: no fundamental conflicts of interest exist between the two countries.
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Speaker 9: Well, goodness me, I beg.
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Speaker 11: To differ tariffs, military incidents, the COVID pandemic. These are
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Speaker 11: significant conflicts of interest. Yet albin Easy is too weak
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Speaker 11: to stand up to it. And I think it says
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Speaker 11: a lot when you've got Keir Starmer, a real shocking
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Speaker 11: failure of a labor prime Minister in the UK who
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Speaker 11: seems to have more goal to raise these issues and
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Speaker 11: what Australia does.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Sir Starmer said on camera in his own meeting
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Speaker 1: with gi I've got this problem with you. I've got
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Speaker 1: that problem with you. I got that problem with you.
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Speaker 1: Albaniz He didn't. By the way, I'm loving how the
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Speaker 1: lies that were told about Donald Trump by the Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris campaign and the media left being exposed. Now. Will
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Speaker 1: the latest example, the host of the MSNBC Morning Morning
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Speaker 1: Joe program, very far left, who before the election called
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Speaker 1: Trump a hitler, a fascist, a dictator. For example, he's
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Speaker 1: just going full Nazi here, full fascist. But now that guy,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough his co host wife admit they've gone down
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump to see Donald Trump as Florida home
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Speaker 1: to try to talk peace with him.
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Speaker 13: Here they are, it was the first time we have
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Speaker 13: seen him in seven years. What we did agree on
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Speaker 13: was to restar our communications.
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Speaker 1: Now listen, Will, who, as an honest person, would make
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Speaker 1: peace with a man they had claimed before, Well, it
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Speaker 1: would be a hitler unless they were lying at the time.
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Speaker 4: Someone who's ratings are in the toilet. Andrew with the
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Speaker 4: obvious answer, This is delicious to watch that these guys
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Speaker 4: have hated Trump with a burning passion for so long
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Speaker 4: and now they have to crawl back tomorrow lago to
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Speaker 4: kiss the ring because obviously their ratings are in the toilet.
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Speaker 4: The mainstream media have this bizarre force the impact with
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Speaker 4: Trump which is basically on a personal level, they reviled him.
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Speaker 4: But these media businesses are only going in one direction
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Speaker 4: at the left wing mainstream media businesses, and Trump is
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Speaker 4: a rating savior for them. So they've got to basically
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Speaker 4: eat this lemon and try and tolerate it as they
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Speaker 4: as they hold on to the one life raft that
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Speaker 4: may keep them going for a little bit longer, which
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Speaker 4: is Trump.
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Speaker 1: It's funny about that their ratings have gone nearly cut
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Speaker 1: a million half. You know, the thing is here the
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Speaker 1: albanis the government to Denik has been trying the same
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Speaker 1: democratic tactic of flaming their opponent. Opposition leader Peter Dutton
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Speaker 1: is a thag, is a voldemort, and the rest don't
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Speaker 1: today responded.
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Speaker 3: Here is all they're doing at the moment is throwing
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Speaker 3: out personal attacks.
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Speaker 1: And I think what the.
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Speaker 3: Last two years eighteen months has demonstrated is that the
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Speaker 3: more the Labor Party attacked me personally, the higher my
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Speaker 3: numbers go.
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Speaker 1: Exactly the same happened of course with Donald Trump, the
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Speaker 1: taxan Donald Trump. But is he right? Is Peter Dutton
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Speaker 1: thriving on the abuse, Well.
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Speaker 11: According to the polls, Andrew, he certainly is. I mean
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Speaker 11: these MSNBC CNN style attacks on Peter Dutton back home
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Speaker 11: here are having the exact opposite effect, because if you
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Speaker 11: look at the latest polls of the last two months,
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Speaker 11: they actually show that Australians are indeed backing Peter Dutton
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Speaker 11: to lead this country because they do see him as
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Speaker 11: a more stable leader. If the US election taught us
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Speaker 11: anything as well as those taunts of the US against
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Speaker 11: Donald Trump, they failed miserably because the majority of Americans,
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Speaker 11: that's seventy five million of.
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Speaker 1: Them, voted for their hip pocket.
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Speaker 11: They voted for their everyday lives, they voted for their bills.
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Speaker 9: It's not about the leader.
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Speaker 11: It's not about these ridiculous school yard taunts. They want
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Speaker 11: to know who is the best person to lead this
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Speaker 11: country and who is the best person to help my
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Speaker 11: hip pocket. So all the power to Peter Dutton, I say.
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Speaker 1: I've got fifteen seconds. Will what do you make of this?
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Speaker 4: It's the myth of the unelectable socially conservative liberal leader.
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Speaker 4: They said Howard was unelectable, they said Morrison was unelectable,
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Speaker 4: they said it was unelectable. They're doing it with Dutton
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Speaker 4: and they may very well find out that they're going
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Speaker 4: to make the same mistake.
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Speaker 1: Well, the abuse, Mason just looked tough, and I saw
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Speaker 1: a poll today saying he's so tough that people think
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Speaker 1: he'd be a better person to handle Donald Trump. So
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Speaker 1: there you go, Janika to Georgio will Kinson, thank you
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Speaker 1: both for your time. That's it for me. But coming
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