Latest / The Front / Their slogan was ‘Death to Israel’. Then Mossad blew them up
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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Monday, September one, twenty twenty five. Forget work from home.
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- 0:42Speaker 1: Hasty is poised to line up on the side of
- 0:44Speaker 1: rebel national Barnaby Joyce in opposing the net zero transition,
- 0:49Speaker 1: a fresh headache for Opposition leader Susan Lee. A big
- 0:55Speaker 1: power shift in the Middle East with Israel wiping out
- 0:58Speaker 1: the senior leadership of Hoofy rebels who've been attacking commercial
- 1:02Speaker 1: ships in the Red Sea and firing ballistic missiles at
- 1:06Speaker 1: Israeli cities. But Anthony Albanesi's government has stopped short of
- 1:11Speaker 1: explicitly supporting Israel's actions in eliminating the senior hoofees who
- 1:16Speaker 1: are Iran's last terror proxy in the Middle East, and
- 1:21Speaker 1: who'd survived an onslaught from the United States earlier this year.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Today Chief international correspondent Cameron Stewart joins me to discuss
- 1:30Speaker 1: exactly how Mossad did the job. They call it Operation
- 1:43Speaker 1: Drop of Luck. Israeli fighter jets fly over the two
- 1:52Speaker 1: thousand year old mountain valley city of Sanna in Yemen
- 1:57Speaker 1: and drop bombs on a fuel depot and a lead
- 2:00Speaker 1: ship compound where the top officials of the Hoofy rebel
- 2:03Speaker 1: government a meeting to watch a televised broadcast by their leader,
- 2:08Speaker 1: Abdel Malek al Hufi. He's in hiding, reportedly in a
- 2:13Speaker 1: cave somewhere in the mountains, communicating with the Yemeny's via
- 2:17Speaker 1: weekly video messages. A fireble blooms into the sky, the
- 2:25Speaker 1: jets agone and a city reels from what will turn
- 2:29Speaker 1: out to be a devastating moment.
- 2:32Speaker 2: This is by far the most successful strike against the
- 2:37Speaker 2: Hoosi leadership ever conducted.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is the Australian's chief international correspondent, and we're
- 2:44Speaker 1: talking about the fresh revelation that this Israeli attack conducted
- 2:48Speaker 1: last Thursday took out the Hoofi's self proclaimed Prime Minister,
- 2:53Speaker 1: Ahmed al Rahawi and members of his cabinet, including the
- 2:57Speaker 1: cabinet secretary, Foreign minister, justice minister, and several more.
- 3:03Speaker 2: It shows that Israel is changing its strategy and its
- 3:06Speaker 2: tactics in dealing with the Hoofes, which of course are
- 3:08Speaker 2: the last of the Iranian proxy terror groups that are
- 3:12Speaker 2: still effective enough to actually or brave enough, should we say,
- 3:15Speaker 2: or crazy enough to actually lob missiles towards Israel.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Just days ago, the Hoofies, whose sloganese death to America,
- 3:29Speaker 1: death to Israel, Cursed the Jews, were celebrating ballistic missile
- 3:33Speaker 1: attacks on Israeli cities. They were a devilishly difficult nut
- 3:39Speaker 1: to crack. This rebel force that has taken over northern
- 3:42Speaker 1: Yemen with money and weapons funneled in by Iran and
- 3:46Speaker 1: has been causing mayhem across the Middle East and around
- 3:50Speaker 1: the world for two years. The Hoofies have had an
- 3:56Speaker 1: outsize impact on world politics, haven't they. They can try
- 4:00Speaker 1: troll Northern Yemen. Basically there are a rebel fours, but they,
- 4:05Speaker 1: through their control of the Red Sea, were able to
- 4:07Speaker 1: disrupt shipping and change the world's economy, that's right.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I mean, because they're so strategically located there, and they
- 4:15Speaker 2: are quite they've got quite a lot of missiles, supplied
- 4:17Speaker 2: often by Iran and by Hesbadah, and they fired missiles
- 4:21Speaker 2: at those ships in the Red Sea in the early
- 4:23Speaker 2: stages of the Guards of War, with massive success in
- 4:26Speaker 2: the sense that they didn't sink many.
- 4:30Speaker 1: This is a social media video released by the Hoofies
- 4:33Speaker 1: showing the seizure of a bolt carrier the Magic Seas
- 4:37Speaker 1: two months ago.
- 4:45Speaker 2: But they actually scared the shipping companies through insurance reason,
- 4:48Speaker 2: safety reasons, et cetera, not to take the route, and
- 4:51Speaker 2: of course that required them to go very long route
- 4:53Speaker 2: around Africa, very expensive, affected the whole trading economy of
- 4:57Speaker 2: the world, affected world markets as well. So for a
- 4:59Speaker 2: small little rebel force, they really caused a lot of
- 5:02Speaker 2: trouble there. And of course this actually led to you
- 5:05Speaker 2: might recall in March this year to Donald Trump taking
- 5:08Speaker 2: on the hoof Is because he got sick of American
- 5:10Speaker 2: ships being having to go the long way around and
- 5:13Speaker 2: he took them mind and said, you know, we're going
- 5:14Speaker 2: to take the fight to you, which the Israelis were
- 5:17Speaker 2: very happy about and yet only months later in early May,
- 5:21Speaker 2: Trump struck a deal with the Hoothies basically that said, well,
- 5:24Speaker 2: we're going to stop bobbing you so long as you
- 5:27Speaker 2: stopped firing on American ships. So that was the deal
- 5:30Speaker 2: he made. And I think that really shows Claire how
- 5:33Speaker 2: difficult it is to destroy the Hoofies. I mean, if
- 5:36Speaker 2: the Americans, with all their intelligence and targeted missiles and
- 5:40Speaker 2: resources cannot knock off this group, then that says a
- 5:43Speaker 2: lot about the resilience of them.
- 5:46Speaker 1: The Hoofes were organized and well armed enough to be
- 5:49Speaker 1: firing ballistic missiles at Israel. Israel has struck back after
- 5:55Speaker 1: learning that some of their leadership was going to be
- 5:57Speaker 1: gathered together watching an address by the Hoofi's leader. This
- 6:02Speaker 1: strategy of taking out senior leadership. Is that what's different
- 6:06Speaker 1: about the way Israel has done at this time.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, they haven't done that previously. They've been attacking
- 6:11Speaker 2: energy centers to try and damage the power of the
- 6:15Speaker 2: Hoofs and also upset the Savilian population and made the
- 6:18Speaker 2: Hoofies lose local support. This is a very different strategy
- 6:21Speaker 2: and it's precisely what the Israelis did with great effect.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Against Hezbollah in Lebanon, of course they assassinated the long
- 6:29Speaker 2: standing Hesbelo leader in Israela as well as all of
- 6:31Speaker 2: his deputies, and effectively they defeated Hesbela as a result
- 6:36Speaker 2: of this, because the head was chopped off the Hesbeler dragon.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And of course in Gaza we had Jaha Sinwa who
- 6:43Speaker 2: was killed, and all of the senior Hamas commanders have
- 6:46Speaker 2: pretty much been killed. And while Israel hasn't subjugated Amas entirely,
- 6:50Speaker 2: there certainly a dismembered them as a coherent military force.
- 6:54Speaker 2: And lastly, of course Iran, we had Israel having targeted
- 6:59Speaker 2: strikes killed actually Hamasu's political leader in terran you record,
- 7:03Speaker 2: but also in this last strike they killed enormous amount
- 7:06Speaker 2: of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps senior leaders and also
- 7:10Speaker 2: some nuclear scientists. And why they didn't kill the supreme leader,
- 7:14Speaker 2: it is certainly cowed around as far as Iran's belligerents go.
- 7:20Speaker 2: So this has been an effective tactic for Israel with
- 7:23Speaker 2: the other proxies in the region, and that's clearly what
- 7:26Speaker 2: they've decided to do against the huthis.
- 7:32Speaker 1: The connection between all these strikes led by Israeli spy
- 7:35Speaker 1: agency Mossad is human intelligence. Their agents got pages and
- 7:40Speaker 1: then walkie talkies to Hesbalal operatives in Lebanon and then
- 7:44Speaker 1: exploded them to devastating effect. Then Israeli operatives in Iran
- 7:49Speaker 1: coordinated the destruction of nuclear sites, and now Israel's spies
- 7:54Speaker 1: knew when and where the Hoofi leadership were going to
- 7:57Speaker 1: be and called in the air strikes.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Mosad is by far the most sophisticated technically manpower wise.
- 8:06Speaker 2: They also have a lot of assets on the ground.
- 8:08Speaker 2: And what actually happened, interestingly with this attack with the
- 8:11Speaker 2: Huths was the Israelis. I mean, it shows the sophistication.
- 8:14Speaker 2: They actually did a couple of ruses to give the
- 8:17Speaker 2: Huthies some sense of comfort that they weren't being watched
- 8:20Speaker 2: and they weren't actually being tracked. And that's what led
- 8:22Speaker 2: these hoothy leaders to actually make the rather foolish decision
- 8:26Speaker 2: to meet together reportedly to watch the address by their
- 8:30Speaker 2: supreme leader. And I mean, that's a very vulnerable situation,
- 8:33Speaker 2: and that's where the bomb hit, and that's why you've
- 8:35Speaker 2: gotten none only the PM getting killed, but some other
- 8:38Speaker 2: members of his cabinet as well.
- 8:40Speaker 1: It hasn't been a good week for Iran. Of course,
- 8:42Speaker 1: their ambassador to Australia was expelled and sent home, and
- 8:46Speaker 1: now the Federal government is preparing to prescribe the Islamic
- 8:50Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard called blaming them for anti Semitic attacks conducted
- 8:54Speaker 1: here in Australia. There had been calls for a long
- 8:57Speaker 1: time for the federal government here in Australia to proscribe
- 9:01Speaker 1: the IRGC CAM. But it's not the only terror group
- 9:05Speaker 1: that there are calls about, is there what else is
- 9:07Speaker 1: going on?
- 9:07Speaker 2: Yes, Well, the revelation Claire that the Revolutionary Guard Corps
- 9:12Speaker 2: had ordered these two ancient Semitic attacks against the restaurant
- 9:14Speaker 2: in Sydney and the Adas Synagogue here in Melbourne, as
- 9:19Speaker 2: well as other ones they believe, has really sort of
- 9:21Speaker 2: sparked extra alarm beyond the Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the
- 9:26Speaker 2: Zionist Federation of Australia told me on Friday that they
- 9:29Speaker 2: were very concerned about his But Uteria HUT is better
- 9:34Speaker 2: known as and that is a Sunni extremist organization's a
- 9:38Speaker 2: global organization and they espouse much of the same extremism
- 9:42Speaker 2: as Iran does. I mean, they hate Israel. They glorified Hamas,
- 9:47Speaker 2: they wanted a caliphate, and they were very central in
- 9:50Speaker 2: organizing pro Palestinian anti Israeli street protests both in the
- 9:55Speaker 2: cities here in Australia and also on the university campuses
- 9:58Speaker 2: here in Australia. And what they to do is they
- 10:00Speaker 2: just fall short of completely advocating violence, which makes it
- 10:04Speaker 2: very difficult for as E under the legislation to declare
- 10:07Speaker 2: them a terrorist outfit. What the ZFA said to me was, look,
- 10:12Speaker 2: we need to be more proactive here. This is clearly
- 10:16Speaker 2: a group that is hostile to the Jewish community. We
- 10:19Speaker 2: think they should be prescribed and that's I think a
- 10:22Speaker 2: debate that's going to happen inside government. The government has
- 10:25Speaker 2: not confirmed whether they will have that debate, but they
- 10:27Speaker 2: really think that they probably will. Now that's going to
- 10:29Speaker 2: be another issue, and that's come about really because everyone
- 10:33Speaker 2: was so surprised they probably shouldn't have been. Everyone was
- 10:35Speaker 2: so surprised that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps had actually
- 10:39Speaker 2: ordered these attacks.
- 10:44Speaker 1: The Nesnio government has significantly weakened Iran, but could the
- 10:49Speaker 1: Iranians still make a nuclear weapon? That's after the break.
- 11:04Speaker 1: There are reports over the weekend that Israel is preparing
- 11:08Speaker 1: to limit aid supplies to northern Gaza in preparation for
- 11:12Speaker 1: a new Oncelough we've been talking for a while about
- 11:14Speaker 1: the preparations to take over Gaza city Benjamin Netanya, who
- 11:19Speaker 1: is plowing on despite international criticism cam of the way
- 11:23Speaker 1: he's conducted the war in Gaza. In a couple of
- 11:26Speaker 1: decades from now, how do you think we'll look back
- 11:28Speaker 1: on Netanya, who've given his undoubted success in weakening Iran
- 11:32Speaker 1: and its proxies.
- 11:34Speaker 2: That's a great question. I mean, I think Netna, whose
- 11:36Speaker 2: legacy will be very mixed, and a lot of people
- 11:40Speaker 2: will see it entirely through their own prison. He'll be
- 11:42Speaker 2: a chur Chilean hero to some here'll be a war
- 11:45Speaker 2: criminal to others. I think probably when history settles, And
- 11:49Speaker 2: of course we don't know exactly what's going to happen
- 11:51Speaker 2: with net with Gaza and with the whole region. It's
- 11:53Speaker 2: still very much a work in progress, of course, But
- 11:56Speaker 2: I think what people will see from Ntnia, who, as
- 11:59Speaker 2: far as the next gives go, will be flaws in
- 12:02Speaker 2: his conduct of the operation in Gaza, his inability to
- 12:05Speaker 2: fully destroy Hamas, certainly at an acceptable cost of civilian lives.
- 12:10Speaker 2: We've had enormous amount of seville in deaths. I think
- 12:13Speaker 2: we've had some unnecessary cruelty and poor decisions on the
- 12:16Speaker 2: part of the Israeli government during the conflict in Gaza.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I think he will be criticized for many aspects of that.
- 12:23Speaker 2: But on the other side, Netnio, who has presided over
- 12:27Speaker 2: a huge strategic victory for Israel in the region. I
- 12:30Speaker 2: mean we are talking historic strategic victory here. Israel is
- 12:34Speaker 2: a lot safer now than it was in October seven,
- 12:37Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and you can really argue that in
- 12:40Speaker 2: lots of ways the world is safer. So Netnio has
- 12:43Speaker 2: a mixed legacy, massive strategic victory in the region for
- 12:46Speaker 2: Israel against those countries and those groups that want to
- 12:49Speaker 2: destroy Israel. A very mixed record in Gaza and cam.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Do you think we're any closer to knowing the truth
- 12:58Speaker 1: about whether the strikes on Iran's nuclear capability actually worked,
- 13:03Speaker 1: it actually disrupted their progress towards acquiring a nuclear weapon.
- 13:08Speaker 2: We are finding out some things clear, but it's still
- 13:11Speaker 2: very unclear. And of course, you know, intelligence is never
- 13:14Speaker 2: perfectly Look at the WMD debate in Iraq, many years ago.
- 13:18Speaker 2: But what it looks like is that it caused severe
- 13:22Speaker 2: destruction and devastation, but didn't knock the nuclear facilities out entirely.
- 13:27Speaker 2: The bombs certainly didn't go right to the very bottom
- 13:30Speaker 2: of those facilities. They are still in some form existing,
- 13:35Speaker 2: but they don't seem to be operational in any way.
- 13:37Speaker 2: And interestingly, we haven't heard much about the Iranians trying
- 13:41Speaker 2: to repair those facilities, because, of course the Iranian those
- 13:45Speaker 2: facilities are vulnerable to renewed strikes by the Israelis and
- 13:49Speaker 2: perhaps even the Americans. Should the Iranians try to reconstitute them,
- 13:52Speaker 2: and that would be something which would become fairly visible
- 13:55Speaker 2: to Israeli intelligence. So that's really a story to watch
- 13:59Speaker 2: because we haven't seen the Iranians doing that, and it
- 14:01Speaker 2: does raise the question as to how determined they may
- 14:04Speaker 2: or may not be to reconstitute those facilities and put
- 14:08Speaker 2: themselves once again in the eyesights of the target sites
- 14:11Speaker 2: of Israel.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is the Australian's chief international correspondent. You can
- 14:23Speaker 1: read our ongoing reporting about the conflict in the Middle
- 14:26Speaker 1: East right now at the Australian dot com dot au