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Chuck in the Morning 7-21 Hour 3: Baseball Brunch, gearing up for camp and ABC's of the Mariners. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.
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  Speaker 1: Feature here on the morning show where we recap the
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  Speaker 1: night before in Mariner's Baseball. We don't do this every
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  Speaker 1: single day, but when we do, we celebrate it with
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  Speaker 1: waffles and chicken.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball brunch time.
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  Speaker 3: I love a Benedict's.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the time Baseball brunch time right here, where
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  Speaker 1: we recap the Mariner game. We will have in a moment,
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  Speaker 1: we'll find out who stars in today's baseball Brunch. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have some featured guest appearances, and then we'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: The all right Mariners trying to make a three in
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  Speaker 1: a row. They hosted the Cincinnati Reds last night. George
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  Speaker 1: Kirby started for us left hand or you know, little
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  Speaker 1: left hard is due to us, Andrew Abbott starting for
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds, and it was a struggle to score runs.
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  Speaker 1: Got some help from the Cincinnati defense and actually took
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  Speaker 1: a lead at one to nothing and held it until
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  Speaker 1: the seventh inning, when mysteriously Dan Wilson took George Kirby
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  Speaker 1: out of the game eighty pitches. Hadn't looked better than
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  Speaker 1: he at any time during the course of the season.
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  Speaker 1: I think he could have given the Reds a week
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  Speaker 1: and a half to try to come up with a
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  Speaker 1: solution to George Kirby, and they weren't going to find it.
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  Speaker 2: And yet he.
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  Speaker 1: Was mysteriously removed from the game after eighty pitches last night,
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  Speaker 1: and Nick Davila ended up starting the seventh because, of course,
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  Speaker 1: our four leverage relievers were all used in back to
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  Speaker 1: back games to beat the Giants the previous night, so
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  Speaker 1: the entire Seattle fan base was like, what is going
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  Speaker 1: on here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Davila gets the.
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  Speaker 1: Job done in the seventh, and then whatever went into
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  Speaker 1: that decision, it got bailed out by a huge bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the seventh inning. The Mariners were already up three
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  Speaker 1: to nothing, a sackfly from Colt Emerson, and then we
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  Speaker 1: had a check swing doubled on the right field line
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  Speaker 1: by West and Wilson, and then the drama just builds.
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  Speaker 1: The theater just builds. Terry Francona certainly one of the
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  Speaker 1: best managers of modern day baseball. He decides with second
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  Speaker 1: and third and one out, even though he just brought
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  Speaker 1: a left hander into the game, and former Mariner Caleb ferguson,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk can Zone, the left handed hitter, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna face cal Raley with the bases loaded, gives
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  Speaker 1: me a chance for a double play.
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  Speaker 2: And if we're really being honest with.
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  Speaker 1: One another, can Zone looks a lot better at the plate,
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  Speaker 1: even against lefties than cal Raley has looked here as
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  Speaker 1: of late, and so our faces of the franchise in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of just a disastrous year at the plate,
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  Speaker 1: may have faced the low point of his season as
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  Speaker 1: a baseball player because they walked somebody to get to
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  Speaker 1: him in the lineup, which would have ever been dreamed
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  Speaker 1: of a year ago at this time. How would Dumper respond.
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  Speaker 2: St want to redo? Ah, Aaron and Angie, I want
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  Speaker 2: to redo. Uh yeah, I think they did. Really probably,
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  Speaker 2: I think they did.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, I really.
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  Speaker 2: Think they did.
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  Speaker 1: When asked if he was surprised that they walked Canzone
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  Speaker 1: in front of him, Kyl said, uh, yeah, yeah I was,
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  Speaker 1: and I think insulted and everything else that would go
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  Speaker 1: uh into that decision. But he did hit the Grand
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  Speaker 1: Slam later he had the bases loaded again, and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is really a way to announce that you've broken
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  Speaker 1: back out.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, if he would have done that again.
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  Speaker 1: Hit two Grand slams and back to back at bats
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  Speaker 1: one right handed, one left handed.
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  Speaker 2: And I will be convinced Cal's fixed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: After that, he ends up grounding into a fielder's choice.
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  Speaker 1: It did knock in the eighth and final run of
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  Speaker 1: the game. So we had five rbi on the night
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  Speaker 1: and the Mariners roll to an eight nothing win. Turns
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  Speaker 1: out they didn't need good back into the bullpen managerial
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  Speaker 1: decisions anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Thank goodness. So they went at my final score of
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  Speaker 2: eight to nothing.
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  Speaker 1: After the game, Cal Raley goes out meets with the media,
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  Speaker 1: had a bit of an extended session. I think he
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  Speaker 1: spoke for a full seven minutes with the media last
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  Speaker 1: night and provided a little bit of vulnerability over the
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  Speaker 1: struggles that he's had so far this year. Also talked
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  Speaker 1: about the team having not come together and maybe that
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  Speaker 1: that's changing.
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  Speaker 2: Here is Cal. Afterwards, Cal, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Gonna get back to that seventh inning. They walked the
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  Speaker 5: guy in front of you, Duncan zone to pitch to you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a team at uals from last year. What were
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  Speaker 5: you thinking gone to the play? What were you looking for?
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  Speaker 6: I was just looking for something the hard of the play,
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  Speaker 6: trying to get into the outfield, you know, find a
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  Speaker 6: good pitch of hit and put a good swing on it.
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  Speaker 5: Will you like the rest of us in this building,
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  Speaker 5: everyone watching him kind of shocked thinking, non, no, you
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  Speaker 5: don't walk the go in front of you to get
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  Speaker 5: to cal Roly.
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  Speaker 6: That's not my decision is I'm just ready to hit?
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, Look it was a massive moment, massive grand slam.
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  Speaker 2: Is that something you know? Is it one? Swinging the bats?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes that sometimes.
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  Speaker 5: That's all it takes to get the back going, to
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  Speaker 5: get to get you feeling right of the plate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think you know, my teammates did a great job today,
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  Speaker 6: you know, get on base and you know it's hitting scantagious.
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  Speaker 6: So I think we're swinging the bat well, playing hard,
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  Speaker 6: and I like where I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: One last thing.
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  Speaker 5: Look, you come out of the break, you just won
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  Speaker 5: three straight, you took the first one against the Reds.
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  Speaker 5: What do we what are we going to say this
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  Speaker 5: second half from this team?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 6: I know the boys are excited, and you know the
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  Speaker 6: energy is good right now. Playing well, playing hard, and
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  Speaker 6: I think that's all we can really do.
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  Speaker 2: I think we do that. We'll be right. We want
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  Speaker 2: to in the year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, cal Raley with Ryan Roland Smith. Certainly not
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  Speaker 1: the audio that I intended to play, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: at least you got to see him be the featured
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  Speaker 1: guest at the end of the game. But he did
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  Speaker 1: speak with the media afterwards, and that's when he appeared
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable and ready to answer just about any question that
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  Speaker 1: the media threw his way, and it was some interesting,
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  Speaker 1: riveting stuff. So here is cal afterwards.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just focus on trying to get the runs in,
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  Speaker 4: trying to get all the outfields, like fly, trying to
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  Speaker 4: do my job.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yesterday it felt like maybe the timing was starting
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  Speaker 7: to come back. There were a few bits that were
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  Speaker 7: like it didn't prompt necessarily, but good contact, seemingly good approach.
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  Speaker 7: Do you feel like me means obviously culminating him today?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to, you know, build off of
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  Speaker 4: good swings and good contact and yeah, I thought I
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  Speaker 4: had a couple of good ones yesterday and you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to build off of that and uh yeah, trying
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  Speaker 4: to get.
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  Speaker 2: It wrong just to see the reaction from your teammates.
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  Speaker 6: You get to the dog just how excited What does
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  Speaker 6: that mean to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it means a lot. They're you know,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like this group's in a
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  Speaker 4: good spiring now. You know, I feel like the last
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  Speaker 4: three games, the energy has definitely been up, you know, hustling, uh,
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  Speaker 4: doing the little things. I saw tonight a couple of
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  Speaker 4: plays where you know, and even the other day, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 4: guys fumble ball, running hard down the line, playing with
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  Speaker 4: energy in the field, and I you know, I know
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  Speaker 4: that's what we're capable of. And you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: the game will will reward you when you're playing the
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  Speaker 4: right way. And uh, you know, I, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they've been very very good, very positive, and
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  Speaker 4: lots of energy in the dugout and and you can
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  Speaker 4: feel it, I uh, you know, feel really good about
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  Speaker 4: you know, where we're heading.
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  Speaker 1: What change do you come from?
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  Speaker 4: Where does that energy come from? You know, I think
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's been a hard year. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: overall the frustrating, and I think sometimes we can you know,
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  Speaker 4: start to uh you know, feel sorry for yourself or
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  Speaker 4: you know, get get a little frustrated. But but understanding that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's still a lot of season left and
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  Speaker 4: you know we're we're still in the hunt of it,
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  Speaker 4: and and uh, we still have a job to do,
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  Speaker 4: and I think you know, understanding that and guys kind
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  Speaker 4: of taking on that challenge of Okay, we're gonna show
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  Speaker 4: up every day and you know, we don't really care about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, ourselves or the individual performance, where we're trying
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  Speaker 4: to play for each other, play for the team. And
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's something that we kind of h
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  Speaker 4: kind of you know, went over and talked and you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to make that point emphasis of you know, obviously
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  Speaker 4: team first, playing hard and playing the game the right way,
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  Speaker 4: and and you know the rest will fall into place,
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  Speaker 4: you know, based on you know, who we have in
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  Speaker 4: this bucker room.
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  Speaker 2: What was that a result?
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  Speaker 1: Cal Raley, that's a mouthful right there afterwards talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the first sign of relief we've seen
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  Speaker 1: on his face in a while. He knows he's been struggling.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that he wanted to trot around those
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  Speaker 1: bases with the look of a warrior having just slain
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  Speaker 1: his enemy in the field. And yet he got back
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  Speaker 1: to the dugout, his teammates going nuts for him, he
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  Speaker 1: got to hold the trident again, and he just keep
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  Speaker 1: kept breaking into a smile afterwards, like a little kid.
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  Speaker 1: Who spent the day angry and yet ended up being
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  Speaker 1: the star of the moment, and so it was good
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  Speaker 1: to see. It was refreshing to see. It was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a heath to see. Hopefully it means more
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  Speaker 1: productivity going forward. But really what you isolate from that
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  Speaker 1: conversation with the media afterwards is sort of an admittance
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  Speaker 1: that there was a feel that they didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: right energy on the team and recently feels like they've
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  Speaker 1: come together and a lot of the little things that
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  Speaker 1: we all picked up on right like all of us
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  Speaker 1: that didn't play major League baseball, everybody listening right now,
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  Speaker 1: you picked up on it, like are they focused?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Sometimes it came.
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  Speaker 1: Off listless or careless, like they didn't even care at times.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a bit of an admittance from cal Rawley
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  Speaker 1: that everybody in the organization was seeing that and was
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  Speaker 1: bothered by that and wanted to see everybody avoid those moments.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come together as a team, Let's do those little things.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do the little things with as much energy as
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  Speaker 1: we do the big things like hitting home runs and
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  Speaker 1: posing and everything like that. So I think that is
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  Speaker 1: him sort of pointing that out and I'll tell you something,
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Raley is the leader. If there was a C
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  Speaker 1: given out at the beginning of the year, he certainly
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  Speaker 1: would wear the Captain C on his jersey. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to be a leader when you're hitting one sixty three.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell a teammate who's out playing you. Bill, Hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to step up, because what do you
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  Speaker 1: think is gonna be the response from the play from
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  Speaker 1: the teammate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not gonna be good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be Hey, look up at the scoreboard, Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hitting two seventy eight.
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  Speaker 2: You're hitting one sixty three. You step up.
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  Speaker 1: That's how that's gonna play out. Who's the second leader?
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  Speaker 1: JP Crawford. JP Crawford got displaced from shortstop. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even sure he should be our third baseman when Brendan
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  Speaker 1: Donovan comes back. Then again, I've been pretty hard on
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  Speaker 1: JP this year. Well, when you feel like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: have no future here, my contract runs out at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year, and you just took my shortstop
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  Speaker 1: position away. It's probably the reason why Dan is insistent
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  Speaker 1: on leading him off when there's no reason for him
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  Speaker 1: to be leading off. But I got to keep his
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  Speaker 1: spirits up because we need him as a leader and
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  Speaker 1: we want him in our everyday lineup. And right now
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  Speaker 1: he's our best option at third base, and we can't
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  Speaker 1: have him poisoning the locker room if I demote him
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  Speaker 1: one more step further. So, when those are your two leaders,
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  Speaker 1: and guess who your third leader is, Luis Castillo, who
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  Speaker 1: everybody listening right now knows shouldn't be in our starting rotation.
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  Speaker 1: That's heavy. That's a heavy thing to manage. Our three
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  Speaker 1: leaders have been demoted. Two of them have been demoted,
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  Speaker 1: and the other one is in an inexplicable slump, something
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  Speaker 1: that is one of the greatest mysteries in the history
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  Speaker 1: of baseball. Go look at cal Rawley's Baseball Savant pages
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  Speaker 1: from a year ago to this year. I'll give you
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  Speaker 1: a little hint. If you're in the red, you're doing great.
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  Speaker 1: If you're in the dark blue, you're doing terrible. Cal
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  Speaker 1: rawley season last year, on all the categories was in
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  Speaker 1: the red every single category.
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  Speaker 2: This year, he's in the blue. It is not good.
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  Speaker 1: So when you have your superstar who can't be a
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  Speaker 1: leader because he feels like he's not producing for the team,
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  Speaker 1: and how does he tell someone else to play the
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  Speaker 1: game when he's not carrying his weight offensively. And then
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  Speaker 1: you have another leader who's been demoted and is I'm
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  Speaker 1: not outwardly angry about it, but you know he's not
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  Speaker 1: happy about not being the shortstop anymore. And then you
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  Speaker 1: got another leader who's being piggybacked, and maybe as a
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  Speaker 1: favor to keep him piggybacked, there's been a problem, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like to me, I think that's cal Rawley saying, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we've had a problem in our clubhouse.
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  Speaker 2: We've had it with energy, we've had it with.
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  Speaker 1: Teamwork, We've had it with little moments in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason why he conducted that
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  Speaker 1: press conference, not just because he hit the Grand Slam,
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  Speaker 1: but it was his opportunity to be a leader again,
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  Speaker 1: to speak on behalf of the team and tell the
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  Speaker 1: entire listening audience that feels like we're back on the
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  Speaker 1: same page, feels like we're a team again, and I
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  Speaker 1: hope we're moving in the right direction because we know
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  Speaker 1: how much talent we have and we have not changed
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  Speaker 1: our goals. We still want to get it all done.
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  Speaker 1: We want to win it all and it feels like,
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  Speaker 1: for the first time this year, one hundred and one
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  Speaker 1: games into the season, that we're.
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  Speaker 2: All on the same page again. I sure hope.
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  Speaker 3: So. Yeah, And that's the perfect epitome of saying it's early.
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  Speaker 3: They figured it out. Now they've got time to write it, right,
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  Speaker 3: they have. They have two a third of the season
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  Speaker 3: left to say. Okay, took us a while to get here,
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  Speaker 3: but we're here now, so let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good for him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know he's been one to say that,
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  Speaker 1: probably for a while, but when you're the guy struggling
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  Speaker 1: the most on the team to produce, it really kind
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  Speaker 1: of undercuts your ability to criticize others. Yeah, and so
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  Speaker 1: I do hope that's the case. I mean, I'll say this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this has occurred, if they've gotten
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  Speaker 1: all on the same page, it might have occurred the
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  Speaker 1: moment Cole Young hit that three run homer on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, they came back from the All Star
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  Speaker 1: break and that's about they were the flattest team and
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  Speaker 1: big We just had Jim Bowden on, who doesn't watch
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  Speaker 1: nearly as much Mariner baseball as we do, and he
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  Speaker 1: told us during the the conversation. They look like they're
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  Speaker 1: not invested. They looked like that for a while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they come out of the All Star break, five
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  Speaker 1: days off, five days off, and instead of looking like
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  Speaker 1: you're chewing through the walls to get out on the field,
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  Speaker 1: you again come out looking listless. And then you look
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  Speaker 1: that way again on Saturday. And it's not that they
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I know they all care, but maybe they
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  Speaker 1: weren't on the same page. Cole Young hits the three
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  Speaker 1: run homer, Softy rights on Twitter circle that moment. We
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  Speaker 1: might look back on that as the most important moment
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  Speaker 1: of the season. Boy, it might have been a lot
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  Speaker 1: more important than what he even realized, because it felt
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  Speaker 1: like a galvanizing effect because ever since that three run homer,
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  Speaker 1: the team looks like it's been unified. Did that three
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: run homer unify the team? Did it get him back
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: on the same page?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what I'm to believe?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Because Kyle says we're back on the same page, we're
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a team again, and that did not look the way.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't look that way until late Saturday evening. Yep, No,
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  Speaker 1: I would agree.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe that Cole Young home run was even
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: more important than what we realized.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: We will hear from Logan a little bit later on
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: in this hour.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'll put them in the abcs because you got to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: hear what he said about Dan Wilson on the Softy
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Radio program. But coming up next, we are four days
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: till training camp, and it's time to preview one of
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  Speaker 1: the big topics of conversation every single day a training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM.
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  Speaker 2: Let's give them some.
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  Speaker 3: Bow.
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  Speaker 2: Let's give him something to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: How about love, love love love, I love us give it.
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  Speaker 2: I had to dig it.
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  Speaker 8: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, uh, it is almost that time of the training
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  Speaker 1: camp gets underway on Saturday. Our coverage gets underway Monday
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  Speaker 1: morning right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: kjr FM. And some of the staples that we've had
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in the past are your camp battles, which will start
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: next Monday, and also talk of camp. I mean that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: is the conversation, who's the talk of camp, Who's the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: talk of camp?
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  Speaker 2: Who's great in the buzz out there?
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  Speaker 1: And so I think we gotta have a pre talk
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  Speaker 1: about talk of Camp's pre talk talk, pre talk about
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: who's the talk of camp? Yeah, you can't just show
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: up and then just assess the landscape and then figure
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: out talking. You gotta have an idea of who you
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: think is going to be the talk of camp is.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Then you have to then you know if you're right
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: or wrong. What's the point of just going and then
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: just being like, Wow, that's the person that ended up
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: being the talk of camp.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Interesting, it's a little bit of a game that you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: can play. Was I right about who the talk of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: camp was? And then maybe you get surprised because you
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: didn't see that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, boy, what a plot twist challenge yourself. People
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: turns out that it's not Charles Cross.
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  Speaker 1: The talk of camp is actually Tyle Kotta what don't
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: dunt dunk d So it'll be a big conversation. Hu
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  Speaker 1: Milon's gonna be joining us for a lot of our
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: first week of training camp from Virginia Mason Athletic Center
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  Speaker 1: starting on Monday. But to consider this four day shy
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of training camp a little prefunk in trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out who the talk of camp is actually going to be.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So let's just throw some names out there. Who do
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you think Ashley? Who comes to mind, Who's going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: dominate all of the buzz, all of the conversation while
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we are trying to broadcast from the Virginia Mason Athletic
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Center and enjoy some splendid mornings in renting. And yet
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the buzz of this person is just going to overwhelm everything.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's still going to be Nicki Manoorry. Honestly,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I just think people are so enamored with him. Yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and he's such a presence, and then to be able
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to see the different ways, you know, it'll be more
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: advanced in how they're using him in camp than it
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: was that this time last year. Yeah, I think people
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  Speaker 3: are really gonna enjoy that, and they're not gonna be
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: able to stop talking about him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a great call.
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  Speaker 1: He was just so good. I don't want to get caught.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to paint myself or anybody else into
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the corner of just like being overhyped about him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to heap too many expectations.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we get the exact same player that
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: we got a year ago, the Seahawks are laughing their
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: way to the bank in terms of the value they
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: got out of their second round draft pick.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Two years ago.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So if he never even improves on year number one
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and this is who we at, great.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, what a coup man.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: We pulled the fast one on the rest of the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: National Football League. But there is such potential with this guy,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Like there's part of me and I don't even want
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to put it on the universe, like he's just kind
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of scratching the surface that I think first year was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: him figuring out the league, figuring out the most complicated
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: defense in the league, figuring out a position that was
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: basically created for him. I mean, people call him a safety.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I've heard Greg refer to him as a nickel, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you insists he was nothing but a Sam linebacker. It
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: was a Sam linebacker, that's what he was last year,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: just a really freakishly athletic and versatile one that Mike
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: McDonald got to play Mike McDonald things with, so didn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: even have really a position. And now and then by
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, and this was another just
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: fantastic thing about him.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It was he that said that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: God on Reek Wolland's ass, which I loved about him.
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  Speaker 2: So this isn't just somebody that is like, hey.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I've taken the league a little bit by storm. People
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: are talking about me all over the place. This is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: somebody that is like, no, this is about team first.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Oh man, There's just so much to like about nick
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Emon Worri. And when you have the most creative defensive
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: mind in the galaxy, and you may have the most
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: creative defensive player, most versatile defensive player in the galaxy,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and you've had an entire offseason to work with him.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Now that he is stored up with knowledge, all the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: knowledge that he gained, and you're not going to gain
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: any more knowledge than in your first year. That is
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: your greatest year of learning. And everybody says that the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: biggest jump that a player will take is from year number.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: One to year number two. So how could I not
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: be over my ski tips about this guy? How am I?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: How could I not be expecting the moon and the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: stars from nick Em and Warri this upcoming year.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what this guy does.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's fair to be overly excited
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: about him, because he is that seems to be that
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: special of a player, that type of a player. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's he being too much expectation on him,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: because as you said, if if we saw what we
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: saw last year, we'd be happy. And if we saw
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: what we saw last year with a ten increase, we'd
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: be really happy. So it's not like someone's anyone's going
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: out there expecting him to win Defensive Player of the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Year in his second year. I am, okay, you might be,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: but I was gonna say, but I don't think it's fair.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's unfair to say that's that's out
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: of the question, or that's not out of the question.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's a real possibility.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's certainly going to create buzz. There'll be
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: some things that you know, we'll be we won't be
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: allowed to even discuss as he's getting ready for you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: as we see practices, and we're.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Not even going to be able to put out there.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But for there's no doubt he's going to create buzz.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'll put in the in a similar category as my choice.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And we've already talked about him a little bit this
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: morning a J. Barner, And here's why. Not only do
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I think he's coming off a really good year and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he did take that rookie to second season, big jump,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: more playing time, more exposure, better understanding of the game. Obviously,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: we used him in short yardage, which was and he
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: was highly effective. Was high he was effective in quarterback
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: sneaks as Jalen Hurts was in the world famous tush
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: push like percentage wise, he was that GOODEA.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: So we saw him take a big step forward.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But what is gonna happen with this new offensive coordinator
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: who pretty much helped build George Kittle? Like he was
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the coach maybe most responsible for George Kittle's development in
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, And even if he doesn't get credit for that,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: he's certainly somebody that has observed how it gets done,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: how somebody goes from an undersized, you know, second day
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: pick out of Iowa and becomes the most complete tight
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: end in the National Football League. Now because of his
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: aggressive play, George Kettle might be done. I really do
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: believe that. But this is somebody that had a up
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: close view, certainly had a hand in it. And now
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that he's taking over the reins for Clint Kubiak as
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I'm talking about Brian Fleury. What is that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: going to mean for aj Barner? What's it going to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: mean for the offense? This offense will probably suffer in
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of areas in this transition, Like Kubiak was fantastic,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and so we're probably are I think it's I think
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it's gullible naive to think that you lose a successful
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and you might not lose a thing or.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Two that really worked. About that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to be the same guy might
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not have the same pulse of the team just yet.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But there are also going to be a couple of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: things that you're going to gain in that exchange. And
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: my guess is that what you're going to gain in
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the exchange is a J. Barner learning from the guy
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: that helped George Kittle become George Kittle and Barner taking
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: on a few of those traits. I think AJ Barner
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: could create a lot of buzz. I think he was
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: on the fast track to becoming a Pro Bowl tight
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: end to begin with, and now that he has Flory,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that ace in the hole working with him, I think
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: AJ Barner is going to create an awful lot of excitement,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: not just in camp, but I think the fantasy football
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: market is going to come alive for AJ Barner. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be a sizzling name leading up
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to fantasy football drafts.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's an exciting player to watch. It
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: fun to see how they were able to use him
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: last year. And yeah, there will be changes. I think
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: we'll see differences, but I don't think the Seahawks would
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: have gone from one offensive coordinator to somebody that's so
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: drastically different that everybody has.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: To no, no, we're not running the run and shoot
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: right exactly.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: So I think those changes will be minimal. Take a
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: couple of games to kind of get used to, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: we'll be off and running.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited, and I guarantee you he's even more
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: excited Aj Barner about what this season could bring for him.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And now that he's like comfortable, so comfortable in his
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: own weird skin, that I think he's ready to embrace
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: stardom in the National Football League. I think Ian Furness
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: in our one series chose a good one and AJ
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Barner and I'm fascinated to see what.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: He becomes in year number three.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: All Right, Coming up next on the program, We've got
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: ABC's of the Ms for You, which is going to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: include that audio that I've been teasing throughout the morning
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: from Logan Gilbert what he said about Dan Wilson on
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Softy's show yesterday and what's that directed at me? Sports
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, T is four, Tie Ashley,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: have you seen what ty France has become this year
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: for the San Diego Padres? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I saw, didn't he?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: He?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I saw he had a game winning hit or a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: what do you do something over the weekend? That was
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: a big deal. But he's been playing really well for them, right.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Ty France has hit fifteen home runs this season in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a part time role, has a two seventy nine batting average,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a five to fifty slug and an eight eighty seven ops. Now. Wow,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: let me just if you don't follow numbers like that,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: let me compare it to the last time Ty France
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: wore a Mariner uniform when he was cut in twenty
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: twenty four from this team, and very I mean, that's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a difficult time for a lot of people, particularly Tie.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: He was hitting two twenty three for US.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Wow, and he's hitting what now.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Two seventy nine.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: He had a three fifty slug for US, a five
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to fifty slug this year for the Padres. He had
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a six sixty two ops for US. He has an
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: eight eighty seven OPS for the San Diego Padres.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And this is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Two years aged, yeah, from when he was here last
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: with the Seattle Mariners. I mean, there weren't many Mariner
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: fans that didn't like ty Franz, but what he became.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: He became a liability offensively for this team. Not only
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was he not producing, but he was just continuously hitting
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: into double plays. And even though he was one of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: my favorite players, he dated my fake daughter got married
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to her. For goodness sake, beautiful right, he had to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: go At the time. There was no way you could
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: justify keeping him in the lineup, and we since have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Josh Naylor at first base. But we weren't wrong that
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: ty Franz should be better than he was playing for
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the Mariners at the end of his tenure here. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he's bounced around to like three different teams since he
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: left in two years, four different teams, back with the Padres.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: This year, and he is his ing the crap out
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: of the ball.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I'm good for him because I do agree. I think
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: everybody wanted him to do well. We wish he could
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: have kept doing well for us. I'm glad he's doing
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: well For somebody.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I thought he was toast. I mean, I just thought
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: he was done. I mean some athletes do that. He's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: not the best athlete in the world, like in terms
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of his athleticism. He just to me when he first
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: got here, I'm like, this guy knows how to hit.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And we had some really good years with ty Frantz
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: at first base. But something happened to him. He just
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: fell apart. And I don't know if it was the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Brent Brown.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: You know, experiment, experience.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: And then right back to another different hitting instructor. That
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: maybe he was being torn in two between philosophies. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he couldn't You couldn't justify keeping him
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on this team in twenty twenty four. But he is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: proving this year that he had a lot left in
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the tank. He is playing outstanding baseball. You was for unthinkable.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I still just can't come up with a reason why
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Dan was justified last night in taking out George Kirby.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: He said afterwards, it just felt like a good time.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He had had a long layoff. That isn't the long layoff,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that the point of that is to get stronger
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and not to like to skip a week like didn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: They all have long layoffs and they had the exact
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: same amount of time, and yet he doesn't look like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: he was suffering at all. We didn't have our bullpen,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: we didn't have any of our four high leverage guys.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I realized Farrera.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Was up and they would have used him in a
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: short inning, I guarantee you, but we were going to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: close that thing out with Cole Wilcox and Michael Rucker
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: again last night, up one to nothing because George Kirby
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: came out of the game in the sixth. We had
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: nine outs to get with our fifth, sixth, and seventh
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: best relievers trying to close it out. I know I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: should be celebrating three straight wins, but I even go
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: back to Friday and the Farrera decision to replace Bryce Miller.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, what did we use that time off for
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if not to reflect on the things we might be
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: we could do better going.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Forward to be able to be in that situation.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And you know, you don't have your bullpen, and you
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: take out a guy that's on top of his game
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and not showing any signs of fatigue whatsoever and remove
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: him when he probably could have given you at least
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: one more inning and maybe two.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It's unthinkable to me, just is.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it worries me just to think. Okay, so
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: because he had a long layoff, the same amount of
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: time as anybody else except I guess he got moved
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: back a little bit. But so are we gonna do
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: that with everyone eight after eighty pitches, no matter how
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: good or bad you are, I guess, but I don't know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand it. It was odd to me, Yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and I was hoping that there was some right, bigger
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: explanation for it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I was first first thought was I hope it was
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: not an injury right. Then the second thought was did
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: he just get traded? Because this happens the time of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the year, when guys get pulled from a game inexplicably.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, George Kurbage just got it
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: crossed my mind last night.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And to find out, no, we thought he'd given us
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: enough up one to nothing with none of our four
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: high leverage guys available to us.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Eighty pitch is six strong, is what he said.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I've gained quite the reputation for questioning Dan Wilson's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: managerial tactics on this station and beyond. But yesterday Logan
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Gilbert showed up on Softy's radio program with some vas
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: for Venom. He didn't want to hear anything about replacing
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: I always try to be pretty nice, but like if
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: people have I ever heard people say that, that's probably
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: when I would get fired up. I think I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: that's ridiculous that people would ever say that. Dan's one
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: of the best people I've ever met. I think he's
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: amazing at his job and what he does and the
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: way he gets us going. Like you know, nobody outside
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  Speaker 8: of here knows what it's like in a locker room
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  Speaker 8: with him. Only the players do. And I think every
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: single one of us would go to bat for him.
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  Speaker 8: So he's the man. I love playing under him, and
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  Speaker 8: I hope he stays there forever.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Logan, you have fired up, He's gonna get
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: fired up on me.
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  Speaker 3: I like that though.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: And when we talked about this last week, and you
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: talked about this, and I said, I have no argument
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: as to why he should stay. There's nothing I can
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: say that would counteract what you are saying because I
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: don't see where there is a where is there where
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  Speaker 3: there's a positive thing for him to stay or a
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: positive reason for him to stay. Well, there's one right there.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's Logan's going to get fired up.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, It's what I have been preaching throughout the course
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of the season is when people say, well, what does
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: he bring to the table, He does bring stuff to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the table. They really like him, right, and they really
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: like playing for him, and he has their back, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that goes a long way with major league hitters.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. I do like that Logan's saying it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I do like that Logan is telling us that the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: clubhouse loves Dan Wilson, and that can be very valuable.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But Logan, I don't care if he's nice. Nice doesn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: win championships. I know Dan Wilson's a nice guy. But
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: if it's if his being nice is keeping you guys
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: from playing with fire. Your best friend told us last
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: night in the press conference that this team has not
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: been playing like a team, which, above anything else, has
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to be the manager's job and responsibility to get his
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: team to play as one.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So I don't care if he's nice, nice sometimes.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Gets in the way, and maybe it has because even
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: though you all have his back, because he's all had
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: your back, maybe you're taking him for granted. You know
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get your ass chewed out by
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, so you play lacklusterly. Not logan, of course,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: but some of the offensive players, the pitchers, seem to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: bring it every single night. Pete woodworth Man then more
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: than Dan Wilson does, by the way, So maybe nice
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: has been the problem. And yeah, maybe everybody would go
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to bat for him like he has for them, But
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: this is a results oriented business and maybe his being
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: nice is what's gotten in the way of you guys
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: gelling as a team. So I appreciate that he defended him.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that he did. It's nice to hear that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: our clubhouse loves him and we want him to stay.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But you better start playing better. You better start playing
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: more focused baseball. Otherwise it's going to reflect on that
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: guy you just defended.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Right, And that's the thing is if okay, So if
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: he's not the problem, you want to defend him and
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: say that you you know, you'd get really angry with
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: anyone who says he should be out, all right, Then
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: show us what it is that he can get out
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: of you guys, because we haven't seen it a ton
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: so far.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, ask Ryan about that next. Ryan Heally
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  Speaker 1: will join us a lot of things to dis us
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