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  Speaker 1: This is the report, right well, good evening and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Bolt Report. I'm James Macpherson. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 1: up tonight. The ABC finally apologizes to Gina Reinhard, but
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  Speaker 1: is it enough? Another labor minister has been spending up
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  Speaker 1: big with your money. I'll tell you who in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: And over in the UK, migrants are being given pamphlets
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  Speaker 1: explaining how to safely cross the English Channel. Patrick Christie's
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  Speaker 1: will join me from London a little later. But first
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  Speaker 1: I've got to question for you. How long do you
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  Speaker 1: think it would take? Oh, I don't know the average
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  Speaker 1: person to realize that broadcasting a segment about sodomizing Gina
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  Speaker 1: Reinhard with a stick, it's probably beyond the pale. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: would the average person need time to think about it?
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  Speaker 1: Would you need a moment to weigh it up, five
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  Speaker 1: minutes to consult with a friend, or would the average
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  Speaker 1: person simply watch it and think, you know what, that's grotesque?
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  Speaker 1: Don't put that on television.
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  Speaker 2: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
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  Speaker 2: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
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  Speaker 2: stick right off Gena Reinhart's bottle stirring it around, nixing
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  Speaker 2: her guts up nice and smooth.
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  Speaker 1: But I suppose the people running the ABC, the people
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  Speaker 1: who put that segment to air, aren't your average people. Sadly,
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  Speaker 1: they seem to be well below average, because it took
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  Speaker 1: them eighteen days, almost three weeks, to finally, belatedly issue
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  Speaker 1: an apology to Gina Reinhardt. Eighteen days is a long
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  Speaker 1: time consulting your conscience. Perhaps I'm being unfair. Maybe it
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  Speaker 1: only took a moment to consult their conscience. The eighteen
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  Speaker 1: days were spent finding it. ABC Managing director Human this
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  Speaker 1: afternoon issued an apology that bizarrely began by noting the
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  Speaker 1: ABC had nothing to apologize for. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 1: While the ombudsman has found that the film did not
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  Speaker 1: breach the ABC's editorial policies, the ABC acknowledges the episode
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  Speaker 1: has fallen short of community expectations. So the ABC hasn't
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  Speaker 1: said we were wrong. A segment on Race around the
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  Speaker 1: World that fantasized about the sexual abuse of Australia's richest
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  Speaker 1: woman was disgusting and should never have been broadcast. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't said any of that. Instead, the ABC has said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Technically speaking, it wasn't that bad, but of
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  Speaker 1: course community standards being what they are, fell short of
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  Speaker 1: community expectations. When you think about it, it's actually quite
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  Speaker 1: the admission, isn't it. The ABC finally acknowledging that the
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  Speaker 1: Australian community has higher standards than they do, so after
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  Speaker 1: making it clear the ABC had nothing to apologize for,
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  Speaker 1: but that they need to apologize because well, apparently the
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  Speaker 1: Australian public has no sense of humor when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to sexual abuse of women. Hugh Marx writes this, the
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  Speaker 1: ABC apologizes to missus Reinhard and to anyone else affected
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  Speaker 1: or upset by the publication of the film. Note the
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  Speaker 1: careful wording not we made a mistake, not we were
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  Speaker 1: wrong and we're sorry, just sorry if Missus Reinhard or
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  Speaker 1: anyone else for that matter, was upset. It raises the question,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. If it takes eighteen days for the ABC
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  Speaker 1: to issue an apology, how many days would it take
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  Speaker 1: for the ABC to issue a heartfelt apology, Because in
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  Speaker 1: my view, we're still waiting. Having gotten the apology out
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  Speaker 1: of the way, ABC Managing director Hu Mars continued as
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  Speaker 1: part of our review of this matter, we've considered whether
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  Speaker 1: the guidance in the ABC editorial policies adequately reflects community expectations.
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  Speaker 1: There's that reference again to community expectations. It's starting to
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  Speaker 1: sound like community expectations are a bit of a bummer
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  Speaker 1: for the ABC. But Hu Marx is correct. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's fair to say there's an expectation within the community
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  Speaker 1: that our national broadcaster won't put graphic descriptions of sexual
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  Speaker 1: violence to air as entertainment. Call the Australian community a
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  Speaker 1: little stuffy. Hu Mark's statement continued, the ABC will amend
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  Speaker 1: its guidance as it applies to violence. Well, I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to read the amendment. Note to ABC staff, don't
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  Speaker 1: joke about somewhat sodomizing women. And if you think I'm joking.
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  Speaker 1: Have listened to Hugh Marx on the ABC this afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at the standards. They felt that the work didn't
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  Speaker 3: didn't contravene the standards and looking at the stands, I
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  Speaker 3: can understand why they made that decision. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: we've had to really assess, you know, what we do
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  Speaker 3: out of this, and we've changed we're changing those guidelines.
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  Speaker 1: So ABC producers looked at ABC standards and found nothing
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  Speaker 1: in those standards that would prevent them from putting to
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  Speaker 1: where a description of Gena rein hard being sodomized. The
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  Speaker 1: good news is it won't ever happen again, because they're
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  Speaker 1: going to write into the fine print of ABC standards
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  Speaker 1: that you know, rape stuff is no goes on, just
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  Speaker 1: so the ABC staff will know.
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  Speaker 3: And the change, I think will reflect the fact that
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  Speaker 3: no individual should be the subject of comedy that is
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  Speaker 3: violent in its description in our programming.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what does it say about ABC staff that you
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  Speaker 1: have to have that written in your guidelines? Are they
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  Speaker 1: that devoid of discernment, that lacking in judgment, that bereaft
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  Speaker 1: of conscience, that anything goes unless there's a caution in
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  Speaker 1: the guidelines.
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  Speaker 3: I think the ABC has to hold itself to a
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  Speaker 3: higher standard, and I think it's really important we make
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  Speaker 3: that changes.
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  Speaker 1: When you define a higher standard as not putting to
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  Speaker 1: air calls for the rape of prominent women, you have
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  Speaker 1: to wonder. In his written statement put out this afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Marx wrote, the film has been edited on the
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  Speaker 1: ABC platforms to remove the relevant material. Once again, note
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  Speaker 1: the insipid language. They're not removing the abhorrent material. They're
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  Speaker 1: not removing the deeply offensive material, They're removing the relevant material. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this apology of sorts came on the same day that
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  Speaker 1: the ABC's independent ombudsman, Fiona Cameron found that and I
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  Speaker 1: quote while some viewers may have found the depiction of
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  Speaker 1: the assault of missus reinhard confronting, it did not alter
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  Speaker 1: the overall canclusion that a reasonable audience member would be
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  Speaker 1: unlikely to understand the comments as a genuine endorsement, encouragement
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  Speaker 1: or threat of violence. Yet you have to laugh when
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  Speaker 1: those at the ABC, including their independent in house ombardsmen,
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  Speaker 1: a pine on what a reasonable person might think. How
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  Speaker 1: would they know? I can't believe the ombardsman wrote that
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  Speaker 1: quote some viewers may have found this segment confronting of
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  Speaker 1: the petals, No ABC ombardsman. It's not that some viewers
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  Speaker 1: may have found it confronting. It's that most viewers would
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  Speaker 1: have found the segment disgusting. Not the ombardsman. It seems
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  Speaker 1: she found that quote the punchline of the film is
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  Speaker 1: a hyperbolic joke. Great, so now we have to explain
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  Speaker 1: humor to those at the ABC as well as decency.
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  Speaker 1: The ombardsmen added this, The remarks did not draw upon
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  Speaker 1: gender based stereotypes, nor were they framed in terms of
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  Speaker 1: hostility towards women as a group. Well that's a big
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  Speaker 1: tick for the ABC. I mean, the segment didn't call
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  Speaker 1: for women as a group to have their buttholes penetrated
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  Speaker 1: by sticks. Only Gina reinhard. Honestly, somehow that makes it better.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. The ABC's apology was about as meaningful
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  Speaker 1: as a getwell card from an undertaker. It had far
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  Speaker 1: more to do with minimizing any potential lawsuit than with
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  Speaker 1: genuine contrition. That's your ABC, which is really their ABC.
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  Speaker 1: You just pay to be insulted and treated like an idiot. Well,
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: another day, another labor politician spending big with your money
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  Speaker 1: and for what. Energy Minister Chris Bowen's travel expense report
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  Speaker 1: for this financial year has been revealed, and it shows
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  Speaker 1: taxpayers were slugged more than three hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the jet setting minister and his entourage.
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  Speaker 1: As The Daily Telegraph has reported, that's an average of
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half thousand dollars a day on international
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  Speaker 1: travel across a total of forty six days abroad, and
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  Speaker 1: boy is our energy minister living large again with your money.
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  Speaker 1: Bowen recorded a six day tour of Denmark, Finland and
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  Speaker 1: Singapore in May that cost and eye watering forty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars must have been nice. And then he spent
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  Speaker 1: another forty two thousand dollars on a six day trip
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  Speaker 1: to Germany and Singapore that was in June. Taxpayers will
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  Speaker 1: build almost seven thousand dollars so the minister could spend
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  Speaker 1: one night in New Zealand. Last year seven grand for
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  Speaker 1: one night. He spent eleven days in Brazil and Chile,
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  Speaker 1: costing US seventy nine thousand dollars, and another one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighteen thousand dollars was spent on a nine day
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  Speaker 1: trip through the United States. I'll tell you what fighting
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  Speaker 1: climate change is taxing work, and let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. The only thing traveling
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  Speaker 1: faster than Chris Bowen is inflation. So what value are
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  Speaker 1: Australian voters getting from their expensive gas guzzling energy minister? Well,
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  Speaker 1: yesterday he delivered a speech to the National Press Club, beginning,
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  Speaker 1: of course, with the important things.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for joining me on the lands of the
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  Speaker 4: Namoria non amal people whose elders high acknowledge and celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: Having gotten that out of the way. He used the
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  Speaker 1: speech to insist that he is personally committed to Australia
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  Speaker 1: reaching that target of eighty two percent renewable energy by
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirty, although he didn't seem all that confident. Will
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  Speaker 1: you get twenty two percent?
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  Speaker 4: I think we can. I think we can, you know,
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  Speaker 4: rather than will well, I think we can, and whether
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  Speaker 4: we will or not it depends on whether we keep
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  Speaker 4: our foot on the accelerator.
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  Speaker 1: I did smile when he said the key to reducing
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  Speaker 1: our emissions was to keep our foot on the accelerator.
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  Speaker 1: But as you heard, he didn't seem too confident the
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  Speaker 1: government will reach its renewable goal. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he needs to spend a bit more time at
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  Speaker 1: a resort overseas on the taxpayer dime figuring it all out.
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  Speaker 1: There was some good news, though. He finally acknowledged just
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  Speaker 1: how tiny Australia's contribution to global emissions really is.
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  Speaker 4: As our opponents like the parrot, we are about one
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  Speaker 4: percent of global emissions.
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  Speaker 1: And yet for some reason he wants us to lead
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  Speaker 1: the way for every other country on Earth.
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  Speaker 4: But this year Australia is stepping up to play a
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  Speaker 4: broader role as president of negotiations for COP thirty one,
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  Speaker 4: enabling us to guide and steer the conversation around ninety
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  Speaker 4: percent of the world's emissions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I'm finding it hard to picture Chris Bowen
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  Speaker 1: guiding and steering the conversation with jijingping about China lowering
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  Speaker 1: its emissions about thirty three percent of the global total. Clearly,
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  Speaker 1: renewables are not Chris Bowen's only fantasy. Speaking of fantasy.
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  Speaker 4: Building renewables more into your household in your country improves
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  Speaker 4: your energy security. The sun can't be blockaded, the wind
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  Speaker 4: can't be sentioned.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, the Iranian regime can't blockade the sun. It
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: does disappear every night, however, and clouds have a way
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  Speaker 1: of not cooperating, and no foreign power can sanction the wind.
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  Speaker 1: But when the wind stops blowing, will not even Chris Bowen,
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  Speaker 1: with all of his hot air, is able to change that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't build a sovereign energy system by making your
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  Speaker 1: energy system whether dependent energy. Sovereignty comes from dependable, dispatchable power,
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  Speaker 1: not hoping the forecast cooperates. You know what else I
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  Speaker 1: noticed about Bowen's address yesterday. He didn't use the phrase
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  Speaker 1: net zero, not even once, which is amazing because he
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  Speaker 1: certainly wasn't shy about the term when he addressed the
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  Speaker 1: press club back in twenty twenty four, committed to net
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  Speaker 1: zero by twenty fifty, the net zero Economy Agency new
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  Speaker 1: zero net zero to meet net zero by twenty fifty.
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  Speaker 1: That was twenty twenty four. Yesterday, net zero was nowhere
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  Speaker 1: to be seen or heard. Joining me now is show energy,
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  Speaker 1: mister Dan Tee and Dan, thanks for coming on the program.
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  Speaker 1: Let me start with this. Why do you think Chris
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  Speaker 1: Bowen avoided using the phrase net zero yesterday?
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  Speaker 5: Because he can't achieve it, and that's why he didn't
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  Speaker 5: mention it. And you'll know that.
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  Speaker 6: He very briefly touched on offshore wind and although he
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't admit it upfront, but basically offshore wind is now
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  Speaker 6: not viable. And his green hydrogen superpowered dream he touched
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  Speaker 6: on that as well, and that is that's disappearing, so
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  Speaker 6: there is no pathway for it.
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  Speaker 5: So what has replaced ned zero?
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  Speaker 6: And this is a great slide of hand, is there
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  Speaker 6: eighty their push for eighty two percent renewables.
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  Speaker 5: Now that's not reaching net.
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  Speaker 6: Zero's about trying to change our electricity system. So everything
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  Speaker 6: that he's touching is turning to disaster. Yesterday's Press Club
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  Speaker 6: address we got some honesty about that, not a lot.
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  Speaker 6: There was a lot of sprooking, but there were some
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  Speaker 6: kernels of honesty. And what we're seeing is he's walking
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  Speaker 6: away from net zero by twenty fifty. As you've said,
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  Speaker 6: it wasn't mentioned once. Ye'd go back two or three years,
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  Speaker 6: and that was all he was parroting. And the other
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  Speaker 6: thing was the interesting title of his address, which was
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  Speaker 6: about energy security. Now, as you mentioned in your editorial,
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  Speaker 6: what is secure about the wind and the.
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  Speaker 5: Sun Because everything, everything.
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  Speaker 6: We get for our wind farms and our solar farms
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  Speaker 6: comes from offshore. It's a minuscule what is made here
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  Speaker 6: in Australia, and we are becoming wholly reliant on importing
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  Speaker 6: those materials when we've got oil, gas and coal and
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  Speaker 6: uranium in abundance underneath the ground that he doesn't want
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  Speaker 6: to touch.
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  Speaker 1: So if he's effectively given up on zero, and I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you, I mean the fact he did not
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  Speaker 1: mention it even once is telling So if we've given
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  Speaker 1: up on that and said well all right, we're probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to get there, did he announce anything that
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  Speaker 1: will actually help struggling Australian families to afford their electricity.
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  Speaker 5: No, he didn't. As a matter of fact.
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  Speaker 6: What he did was announce the scheme, and it's a
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  Speaker 6: subsidized scheme. And can I say at the outset, I'd
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: much rather have solar panels on warehouse roofs, on farm
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  Speaker 6: shed roofs.
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  Speaker 5: Rather than taking up prime agricultural land.
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  Speaker 6: But once again, the scheme, the expanded scheme he announced there.
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  Speaker 6: Our worry and our concern is is what will it
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  Speaker 6: do to the network and what will it do to
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  Speaker 6: network costs? So it could actually make it worse when
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  Speaker 6: it comes to energy affordability in this nation.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Bowen making things worse. You're kidding me, aren't you.
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  Speaker 1: We've had recent surveys claiming one in four people are
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  Speaker 1: going without cooling or heating because of affordability issues. We've
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  Speaker 1: also had an energy expert tell us we should consider
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  Speaker 1: occasional power outages as a way of curbing costs. So
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  Speaker 1: what's Chris Bowen actually doing to fix any of this?
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  Speaker 1: Was there anything he said that gave you hope maybe
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  Speaker 1: the government might be able to rectify the mess they've created.
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  Speaker 6: Well, sadly, there wasn't, James. I wish there was, and
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  Speaker 6: I wish I could report to your viewers that there was.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, all we heard was the typical ideological rubbish.
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  Speaker 6: I mean Cole he said, is no longer a fermin
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  Speaker 6: or a base load power. Now I don't know what
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  Speaker 6: planet is on sometimes, because the Queensland State government have
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: just said they want cold to last through to the
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: mid twenty forties. At least New South Wales are in
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  Speaker 6: the gohes ciations with their coal fire generators. And even
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  Speaker 6: Lily dan Brocio, an ideological fellow traveler who fortunately for
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  Speaker 6: Victoria's just.
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  Speaker 5: Been removed from her role.
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  Speaker 6: But even she had secret deals with the coal fire
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  Speaker 6: generators here in Victoria to keep them going. So I
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  Speaker 6: don't think there was anything there, Sadly, apart from him
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  Speaker 6: admitting that he's green hydrogen superpowerdering and offshore wind, it
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  Speaker 6: looks like that they're now off the table.
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  Speaker 5: There was nothing else to write home about.
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  Speaker 1: What did you make of Chris Bowen's three hundred and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: forty five thousand dollars travel bill? Is any of that necessary?
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, if you win government, you will be
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  Speaker 1: the energy minister. Do you think you'll need to fly
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  Speaker 1: that much?
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  Speaker 6: No? I don't think I will, and I especially won't
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  Speaker 6: need to fly that much if all I'm say I'm
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  Speaker 6: focused in is reducing emissions, because it's hard to see
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  Speaker 6: how all that flying in any way has reduced omissions.
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  Speaker 6: I mean what we wouldn't mind is if he was
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  Speaker 6: doing this traveling and it led to more affordable energy
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  Speaker 6: in this nation, I think we would all say, you know, Olalujah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean he was in the US nine ten or
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  Speaker 6: eleven days. Was he over there signing a deal to
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: sell them our uranium? Was he over there signing a
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: deal to look at their nuclear capabilities and see when
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: it comes to small modulary actors? Would that technology now
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  Speaker 6: be applicable to us here in Australia. Did he meet
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  Speaker 6: with Chris Wright, the US Energy Secretary. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: he did any of those things. You know, when he
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: goes to Japan and South Korea, is he talking about
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  Speaker 6: our coal, our gas exports when it's with India they
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: want our uranium? What can we do we make him sure,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: we're giving them more of our uranium.
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  Speaker 5: That's the sort of thing which makes us a.
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  Speaker 6: Rich economy, and that's the sort of thing which could
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  Speaker 6: put downward pressure on energy prices here in Australia because
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  Speaker 6: we could be pursuing energy abundance.
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  Speaker 5: It all he's doing is going.
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  Speaker 6: Around and lecturing the rest of the world about how
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  Speaker 6: they should be reducing their emissions while he's making Australians poorer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really great point. Hey, before I let you go,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get a quick comment from you on
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Tony Burk's no show at the National Press Club. The
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Immigration Minister canceled a planned speech because apparently the Labor
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Cabinet has not yet been able to agree on the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: finer points of its immigration policy. One Nation leader Pauline
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Hanson was asked about this this morning. Have listen, why bring.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: In to me people that don't fit the needs that
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: we want in Australia. We don't need any more uber drivers,
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: nail technicians, dog walkers. These people gone stop all that.
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  Speaker 7: So I don't care what people think, whether you know
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: it's going to affect their businesses. They're not going to
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  Speaker 7: solve many products. All the universities because they won't have
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: the number of foreign students coming in here. I don't care.
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  Speaker 8: Are you living rent free in Tony Burke's head right now?
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  Speaker 7: I think I am. He's they're schedul to do anything
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  Speaker 7: because they're support that one nation is getting.
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  Speaker 9: What do you say about that, Dantem, Well, what I'd
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  Speaker 9: say is Chris Bowen has providers with a lot of entertainment,
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: four million dollars on a five star resorting feeg and
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: for all these bureaucrats and world leaders, and then we
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: work out that none of the presidents or prime ministers
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: are going to turn up.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: I thought that was quite astonishing. But for Tony Berg now, the.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Embarrassment of having a locked in press club address and
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: to have to pull it, that is highly, highly embarrassing
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: and what a joke. I mean, how you can lock
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: something like that in which he's done weeks if not
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: months beforehand, and then have to pull out. I mean,
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: I've been in politics now for sixteen years.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like this, and for.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Tony Burke this is a major major embarrassment and it
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: does show. And we've been saying this all along, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: when I would shadow Immigration Minister in our first term
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: in opposition highlighting that they could not get net overseas
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: migration down. It just goes to show there's still hapless
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: and clueless when it comes to it, because he now
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: has been so embarrassed their fails he can't even stick
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: to an appointment at the National Press Club.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: It is beyond a joke.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: What do you think about Pauline Hanson taking credit for
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: his no show?
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: Well, I think there's been a lot of people who
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: have been pointing out to the government over a period
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: of time since they came into office that they aren't
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: reaching it and that oversees my creation target and they
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: haven't been doing so, and they've been overshooting.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: By a large, large amount.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: And if you go back, I think you can look
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: four years ago that we started to highlight this and
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: the government still haven't been able to fix it. Now
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: we've tied it to housing and I think we've got
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: a very very good policy to bring it down and
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: bring it down to sustainable levels.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And I can understand why others are also saying.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: That what the government is doing here they are completely
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: and utterly.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Failing on Dante and I appreciate you joining me tonight.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Pleasure, James, We'll stick around. Coming up
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: after the break. Labor establishes the first Parliamentary committee into
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Australia's preparedness for war since World War II, and the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Ukrainian vegetable seller lucky to be alive after being chased
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: by a Russian drone. He speaks out, that's next, welcome
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: back to the program. And there's a peculiar psychological condition
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: spreading through the country. The more aggressively Chinese Communist Party behaves,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the less worried many Australians seem to become. It's almost
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: as though repeated acts of intimidation have been reclassified as
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a kind of cultural exchange. News poll last month found
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: concern about the threat from Braijing is actually falling. Never
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Mind that the Chinese military conducted live fire exercises off
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Australia's east coast. Never mind that Chinese spy ships have
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: been methodically mapping our coastline, and never mind the test
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of nuclear capable missiles in our region. Apparently none of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that is enough to convince a sizable chunk of Australians
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that the Chinese Communist Party isn't just a charming tourism
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: campaign featuring pandas, dumplings and suspiciously inexpensive electric cars. According
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to the poll, thirty one percent of Australians don't believe
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: China poses any threat whatsoever, another nine aren't sure, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the rest well, they don't vote Greens, which is kind
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: of worrying. Nothing says strategic awareness quite like watching your
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: neighbor sharpening and acts and concluding he is probably just
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: really into woodwork. So it's something of a relief then,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that a bipartisan parliamentary committee has finally been established to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: examine Australia's preparedness for war. The committee will investigate how
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: businesses and the broader community could support national defense and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: keep essential goods and services operating should conflict ever arrive
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: on our doorstep a sensible exercise, because hoping Beijing doesn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: mean what it says isn't really a credible defense policy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The establishment of this committee to investigate our war readiness
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: comes as Taiwan kicks off its annual military drill as
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it prepares for a war with China joining me now
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: is news twenty four Defense analyst Peter Jennings, Peter, how
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: important is the work of this committee and what do
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you have the committee will produce anything meaningful.
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: Well, good evening, James. I hope that it will produce
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: meaningful work. It has the potential to do so because
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: the committee has no Greens on it, no Green Party members,
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: and it's been deliberately designed that way. So let's hope
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: no grandstanding because they are dealing with one of the
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: most serious, imaginable issues.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And just to.
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: Reflect on your opening remarks, you know, the government when
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: it was first elected in twenty two asked si Angus
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: Houston and Steven Smith to advise them on issues to
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: do with the readiness of the Australian population for conflict.
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: They got that advice and then Richard Miles lost his
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: nerve and nothing was ever made public. It's taken them
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: four years to get to the point that they're even
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: prepared to let a parliamentary committee have this discussion. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: I wish it well. I will certainly make a submission
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: to it, and I hope we can for the first
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: time get a suitreous discussion going about what Australia needs
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: to do well.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Russia's war on Ukraine has escalated beyond the two countries
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: board as Moscow is thought to be responsible for a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: drone loaded with explosives found at Germany's Leipzig Airport, a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: key military transport hub used by the German Army and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: NATO allies. The drone was spotted trailing a Ukrainian cargo
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: plane on one of the runways. Flights were grounded for
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: hours while a bomb disposal unit worked to disarm the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: detonator Peter. If NATO responds to this, they risk escalating
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the conflict. But if they don't respond, they communicate weakness.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And we know what authoritarian regimes do when they sniff weakness.
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: Well, the first thing they need to do is look
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: at the security of their airports, because what I've seen
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: of this incident was that it was a small quad
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: Coptera that means to say, something that was most probably
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: being manipulated by hand by a first person view individual
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: PAP snowbled a few kilometers away. Clearly there was a
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: lapse in security at that airport, and I think the
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: message for all European countries is you have to be beware.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: Russia is in some respects intent on expanding this war
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: with Ukraine into other countries, and things like infrastructure security,
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: airport security, they're all going to have to look urgently
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: at how they can do those things more effectively well.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: The drone attack in Germany comes less than a day
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: after this. Disturbing footage emerged of a Ukrainian vegetable stand
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: owner being hunted down by a Russian drone before it
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: exploded beside him, clearly a war crime. Today, the fifty
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: two year old victim, who suffered a concussion, blast and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: trauma and shrapnel wounds to his back and legs, he
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: spoke about the terrifying ordeal from his hospital bed.
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: Have listen, my wife started running and it begun turning
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: at us. I was trying to show it. Look, it's
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: just for vegetables, there's nothing here. But then it's started
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: coming straight at me. So I started running. But where
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: he's supposed to run to a bomb shelter. It's terrifying,
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: of course, it's just it's terrifying, Peter.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: We've gone from drones attacking tanks to chasing civilians around
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: vegetable stalls. The modern warfare really has been completely changed
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: by the advent of drones, hasn't it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: Well, Drones, plus the savagery of the way the Russians
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: have been fighting this battle for many many years now.
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: I mean, this is particularly appalling, and I think all
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: countries that believe in supporting the laws of warfare should
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: be complaining to the Russians that this is completely unacceptable.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: The other thing it tells me, James, is that the
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: Russian military themselves are despairing. They have been fought to
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: a standstill over the last twelve months or so.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think one.
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: Can say at the stage that the Ukrainians have won
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: the war, but you can say quite definitively that the Russians,
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to be able to achieve any more
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: than they have already. And so Ukraine is in a
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: stronger position now than it was six or seven months ago.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: And I think the Russian military is despairing. When you're
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: down to chasing clearly noncombatant grosses, you've kind of given
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: up on purposeful military tactics, and I think that's where
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: the Russians are at this point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: The Ukrainian vegetable seller said he was waving garlic up
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: at the drone, which clearly would repel Dracula, but not
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a Russian drone. Is this an example of Russia using
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: drones to psychologically terrorize Ukrainian civilians, is that they're objective
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in doing something like this.
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: Well, I think it reflects a sort of hopelessness on
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: the part of the Russian military that they're not achieving
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: their objectives, and so they've just got angry and now
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: they're going after civilians. They've been employing these sorts of
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: terror tactics by bombarding clearly non military targets, just civilian
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: cities and villages four years and it has become quite
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: true that on the battlefield for the militaries, the mere
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: sound of a drone is enough to get people diving
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: for the trenches. So there has become a psychological warfare
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: element of that in terms of the actual combat, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: you know, I think reflects ultimately the fact that the
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: Russians feel they're not losing, so they're kind of behaving
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: in a retributive way to attract attack civilians rather than
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: go after proper military targets.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible, Peter Jennings, thanks for joining me tonight. All right,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: stick around. Coming up after the break, Former ABC host
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Anthony Latoufe reacts to the ABC's vile Gina Reinhardt skit
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and Victorian farmers face huge fines for refusing transmission line
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: workers access to their land. We'll get into all of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that with my panel after this break. Well, as I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: said at the top of the show, the ABC has
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a pologized kind of for that vile video describing sexual
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: violence against Gina Reinhardt. Meanwhile, former ABC host Antonette Latoofe
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: is upset that no one has rallied in solidarity behind
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Kate McGinnis, the woman who made the film take a look.
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: I haven't seen. I did have a cursory look around.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: Is like solidarity from other comedians or filmmakers for Kate?
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: Who'd be feeling? I don't know, could imagine all of
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: these players. Your health minister has watched your film, evidently probably.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Hasn't but knows who you are.
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: Or maybe Kate was a massive Dawn Fraser fan, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: this is heartbreaking for who knows. All I know is
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: that I haven't seen solidarity.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Have you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to see such delusion delivered with such confidence.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Perhaps there's been no solidarity from other comedians because well,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Kate McGinnis's film wasn't funny. That's just my guess. Latouf's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: co host Jan Fran thinks she knows the reason comedians
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: haven't rushed to the defense of a woman making jokes
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: about raping another woman with a stick.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: You know how tight comedy spots are on the ABC.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: You don't want to be the comedian that's like really
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: lippy in case a role comes up and you might
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: want to take controvers feel.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Ah, the evidence would suggest comedy spots aren't that tight
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on the ABC. It's just the comedy that's missing. Joining
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: me now is News twenty four host Caleb Bond and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: PR Council's Christy McSweeney, who's worked with Coalition prime ministers
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and premiers. Welcome to you both, Caleb, are you surprised
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that other comedians haven't rushed to stand beside Kate mcginnison
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a show of solidarity? No, why would you?
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: I mean, for goodness sake. You know, there's a solidarity
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: with your mates and your colleagues, and then there's just
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: rank stupidity. I mean, at some point you've got to
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: be able to admit that even people that you work with,
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: or perhaps even people that you admire, can do the
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: wrong thing. And this skit quote unquote, which.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It was not.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: It was just vile garbage, was not funny in any way,
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: as you noted, the ABC took too long to apologize
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: for it, Why would anyone else want to hitch themselves
• 33:20
  Speaker 12: to this wagon. I mean, you'd have to be supremely
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: stupid to say yes. Actually, I'm one of the only
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: people in the country who thinks that this was a
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: great thing to put to a particularly when the woman
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: herself gave a sort of half hearted apology for it
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: last week. You'd have to be stark raving mad.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you would be Caleb, and we're talking about the ABC. Christy,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you're a pr genius. What did you make of the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: ABC's apology. How did you find the presentation of it
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and the wording? Well, they left it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: A while, didn't they. James, And I think that missus
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: Ryanhut was well within her rights to ask for an apology,
• 34:05
  Speaker 13: well within her rights to ask it to be taken
• 34:08
  Speaker 13: off digital platforms. And as for this young girl being
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: labeled a comedian of some note, she is it. She's
• 34:20
  Speaker 13: a visual artist and in her defense, she's actually a
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: great visual artist. She did a wonderful exhibition in Sydney recently,
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: Long Walks down Paramatta Road, which was fantastic photography of
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: old milk bars and things that going on around paramounta Road.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: That's art.
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: What she has punted up here on the ABC is
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: nothing but a vile political ranch that you could have
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: actually put on at home in your lounge room with
• 34:48
  Speaker 13: a bit of help from the props department at the
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: New Theater in New Town. You didn't have to win
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: a competition to beat out hundreds, possibly thousands of other
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: young talent to get the taxpayer said you all the
• 35:04
  Speaker 13: way to Scotland to punt up with this. Spare a
• 35:07
  Speaker 13: thought for all those other young artists who didn't get
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: their shot on the ab SA for.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: This fair call. While all this is going on, the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: ABC's head of Investigations and Current Affairs, Joe Puccini, she's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: leaving the public broadcaster. This follows allegations relating to content
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: produced by sacked four Corners reporter Mahmood Fazal, a former
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Underworld figure. Earlier this week, it was revealed Fazzal allegedly
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: hired a friend to pretend to be a drug dealer
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: for reports on the ABC programs for Corners and background
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: briefing this friend.
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: I realized that working in the corporate world in cocaine
• 35:47
  Speaker 14: really works.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Well together, I to see dollars dollars dollars.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: That friend has now admitted she isn't a drug dealer,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: claiming she was just paid to pretend.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Played a role that they needed.
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: You know, when luck Peter, people need roles played in
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: certain docos and that, and there's people who looked the
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: part that can fill it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what was happening.
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: I earned a nice paycheck offer, a very nice one.
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: So yeah, those things aren't as accurate and as real
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: as you think they are.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Caleb, is the ABC redeemable at all?
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: That's a big question, James. I will note that this
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: woman then told, having put that thing on social media,
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: saying that she got a fat paycheck for that appearance
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: on Four Corners. She then told Media Watch when they
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: followed her up, that in fact she hadn't been paid
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: for it. So it gets even murkier. Who knows what
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: to believe in all of this? But this is of
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: course the problem. I mean, how did the ABC and
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: superior is it at four Corners? And of course the
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: head of investigations has now gone presumably because of all
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: of this. How did no one think that when they
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: employed Mahmoud Fasel a former sergeant at arms for the
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: Mongols biking gang that there might be a problem, like
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: if there was any one who might have an issue
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: with integrity, I would have thought it would be a
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: person who had been a sergeant at arms in a
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: biking gang. And I know it rubbed a lot of
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: people within the ABC the wrong way. When Four Corners
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: are prior to all of this happening where they pulled
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: the three episodes down over these concerns over veracity. But
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: Four Corners had previously put out a statement saying that
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: you know, the whole team stands behind Fazzal's reporting, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: there were people in that team who did not stand
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: behind his reporting. I mean for an organization as large
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: as the ABC to not see potential problems here, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: think goes to your point, are they redeemable? In large part?
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: I would say not.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I wonder if Hugh Marx will update ABC guidelines. Do
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: not employ former bikey officials. Christy, you're old enough to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: remember when the ABC was a treasured institution. Where did
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it all go so wrong?
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: Gimes, don't mention, don't tell people that well.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I couldn't say about Caleb. You were the only options.
• 38:02
  Speaker 13: I want people to think I didn't grow up watching
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: TV and I'm a tiktop person, But sadly no, I
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: grew up in regional Australia in the nineteen eighties and
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: we had two channels. One largely played football and the
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: other one was the ABC. And really it is still
• 38:20
  Speaker 13: a trusted institution, particularly in regional Australia. But some of
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: these goings ons in their city city news rooms that
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: are coming to life that we are seeing and some
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: of the decision making that is not on. And I
• 38:34
  Speaker 13: think a lot of people who still trust the ABC
• 38:37
  Speaker 13: out there in regional Australia because I will defend it
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: out there it does do a good job emergency services
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: and local news and so forth, would be horrified if
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: they tuned in to ABC Sydney or OBC Melbourne sometimes.
• 38:50
  Speaker 13: But I'm with you, Caleb. There are a lot of
• 38:52
  Speaker 13: people in the ABC who didn't agree with this, who
• 38:54
  Speaker 13: questioned this, who still say, look, we are a trusted
• 38:58
  Speaker 13: public institution and what is going on here from their
• 39:01
  Speaker 13: own people, So you've got to ask some questions about
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: that too, all.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Right, very quickly, A new poll shows fifty two percent
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of Australians can't name our governor general. So let me
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: start with you, Caleb. Can you name Sam Mosten?
• 39:18
  Speaker 12: Sam Mouston? How hard was that? You know, I'm going
• 39:21
  Speaker 12: to say I'm not terribly surprised by this. I would
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: have thought of forty eight percent recognition for the governor General.
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: It's probably actually pretty good. You know, maybe Anthony Alberizi
• 39:32
  Speaker 12: would get slightly more recognition than that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But I think she's probably actually doing all right. To
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: be honest, Christy, does it matter that the majority of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Australians don't know who our governor general is? Is that
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a problem?
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: Oh? Look, I think Australians don't really pay attention to
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: the governor general is I think that says a lot about,
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  Speaker 13: you know, why we need a civic education in Australia.
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  Speaker 13: People have such little understanding of their own political citism
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  Speaker 13: and their own constitution here in this country, say, compared
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  Speaker 13: to the United States, we need to do something about that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Caleb.
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  Speaker 13: I think that's a really high figure. And of course
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  Speaker 13: if they poll people here in Melbourne, they do know
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  Speaker 13: who Sam Mosten is. But she was a commissioner of
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  Speaker 13: the AFL. I think she's got high name id in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 13: For that rather than being the Governor General. But you know,
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  Speaker 13: different strokes for different cities.
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  Speaker 12: I guess she's probably better known than Ben Carroll, which
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  Speaker 12: she probably is.
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  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, Christy, you raise an excellent point.
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  Speaker 1: I want to put this to Caleb. Would you rather
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  Speaker 1: be the Governor General or a senior AFL official? Caleb?
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  Speaker 12: Today, I'd probably rather be the Governor General. And I'll
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  Speaker 12: have more to say about that later.
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  Speaker 1: Very good. Of course, Caleb will be hosting Paul Murray
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  Speaker 1: Live at nine pm. Make sure you don't miss that.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to you both, delight to chat, appreciate your joining me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break. When
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  Speaker 1: we come back. Cambridge University's youngest ever black professor is
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  Speaker 1: forced to resign after being caught making false claims about
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  Speaker 1: his academic record, and leaflet's teaching illegal migrants how to
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  Speaker 1: cross the English Channel have been discovered. Patrick Christie's is
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  Speaker 1: up next. Welcome back to the program. Now do you
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  Speaker 1: remember this guy? The shining star of Britain's Cambridge University,
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  Speaker 1: its youngest ever black professor, who the Left claimed was
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  Speaker 1: a victim of racism when he was accused of plagiarism
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  Speaker 1: and embellishing his academic record well. Professor Jason Arday is
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  Speaker 1: now former Professor Jason R. Day, resigning with immediate effect,
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  Speaker 1: just hours after Cambridge announced it was investigating him following
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  Speaker 1: reports he falsely claimed to have published a book, joining
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  Speaker 1: me now as gb News host Patrick Christie's Patrick, this
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  Speaker 1: was someone on the left hail as a darling of DEI,
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  Speaker 1: But it seems it was all too good to be true.
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  Speaker 15: This story has got Natflex series written. So this is
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  Speaker 15: I think Britain's biggest walt committee. He claimed to have
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  Speaker 15: appeared on a television show that aired twenty years before
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  Speaker 15: he was born. He said he wrote a book that
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  Speaker 15: turns out was never published. He claimed he couldn't talk
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  Speaker 15: until he was eleven and couldn't read until he was eighteen.
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  Speaker 15: He claimed he ran six hundred miles in six days,
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  Speaker 15: which would have made him an elite world class athlete.
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  Speaker 15: He claimed he raised millions of pounds for charity. It
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: turned out there was actually several hundred people I believe
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  Speaker 15: who contributed towards that. He claimed he was a visiting
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  Speaker 15: professor at Glasgow University, no record of him ever being there.
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  Speaker 15: Visiting professor at Ohio university in the States, no record
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  Speaker 15: of him being there. That paper that you just mentioned
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  Speaker 15: there turned out was quite heavily plagiarized. I'm quite surprised
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  Speaker 15: that actually he didn't claim to be the first.
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  Speaker 1: Man on the moon.
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  Speaker 15: Was there when Martin Luther King was shot or won
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  Speaker 15: the World Cup for England in nineteen sixty six, But
• 42:52
  Speaker 15: he was held up, you rightly said as this poster
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  Speaker 15: boy for diversity. Mostly it must be said by white
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  Speaker 15: liberals who were absolutely desperate to.
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  Speaker 1: Appeal to their liberal mates. All look at this person.
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  Speaker 15: There's savants that we found here, but he just seems
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  Speaker 15: he seems like an absolute fraud. He resigned last night.
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: People put his resignation letter through an AI checker and
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  Speaker 15: it came back as one hundred per AI generated. You
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  Speaker 15: just have to admire at this point, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry. I had seen on social media that there were
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: people suggesting his resignation might have been written by AI.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: But is that confirmed Now you're saying it's more of
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a joke, I think. But the point is.
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  Speaker 15: Is that is that you can really believe it, aren't you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, just as shocking were revelations, police tried to silence
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  Speaker 1: the journalists to expose this guy. They apparently told Jack Gove,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: he's a reporter for Times Higher Education, to stop asking Jason,
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  Speaker 1: are they questions? Because the questions were causing are they distress?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about that. I mean, that's just unbelievable. Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: So if I robbed a bank and then that the
• 44:00
  Speaker 15: police turned up and I said, oh, you know, you're
• 44:02
  Speaker 15: causing me a bit of stress here, lads, I just
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  Speaker 15: you mind just not looking into it. You know, it's
• 44:09
  Speaker 15: absolutely fond because yeah, so it is that the police.
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  Speaker 15: The police basically started investigating a journalist. Also our day
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  Speaker 15: had instructed a very very high flying law firm here.
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  Speaker 15: It was the kind of accusing people of racism and
• 44:22
  Speaker 15: of causing him mental stress, et cetera. Because one of
• 44:25
  Speaker 15: his excuses for this quote unquotes plagiarism that we've seen
• 44:30
  Speaker 15: is that he claims that he is on the autistic
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  Speaker 15: spectrum and he learns through mimicry, Okay, which I mean again,
• 44:40
  Speaker 15: it's like, you know, all of these kind of different
• 44:42
  Speaker 15: protected characteristics which you're trying to use as a shield
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: to stop actual genuine scrutiny here.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right.
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  Speaker 15: The second Cambridge said his actual university said, we're investigating you.
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  Speaker 15: Now he just threw the towel in. He's not admitting
• 44:57
  Speaker 15: that he's actually done anything wrong. He's basically just saying,
• 45:00
  Speaker 15: I can't really take this anymore. You need to leave
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: me and my family alone. So he's still kind of
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: defending himself. Well, he's got a memoir There's Dude, to
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: be published later this month, so that is going to
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: be a fascinating read because he was.
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  Speaker 1: Just While we're on the subject of this guy, have
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a look at this clip from a university lecture he
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  Speaker 1: gave where he describes the moment watching Australian television stopped
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  Speaker 1: being fun.
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  Speaker 16: I love Home and Away and Neighbors like a lot, right,
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: a lot. And the worst thing that happened to me
• 45:33
  Speaker 16: with Home and Away and Neighbors was becoming a sociologist
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  Speaker 16: because when I started watching Home and Away and Neighbors before,
• 45:39
  Speaker 16: I just watch it and it was escape as him
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: for one hour I was in Australia on seven Network.
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  Speaker 16: Then you've become a sociologist and you start looking at
• 45:48
  Speaker 16: things through a different lens. So part of it is
• 45:50
  Speaker 16: like you think, okay, well Australia has an indigenous population.
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: First Islanders. How come none of them are present in
• 45:56
  Speaker 16: this utopia at Summer Bay. Like then you have kind
• 45:59
  Speaker 16: of Ramsey Street and you think, oh my god, there's
• 46:00
  Speaker 16: no people. You start looking at it really really differently.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Patrick, I know about you, But what I heard
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  Speaker 1: him say is that obsession with race ruins your ability
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy things. Yeah, well, quite.
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  Speaker 15: I mean I don't really understand how anyone could be
• 46:15
  Speaker 15: watching Home in a way. I mean, I was very
• 46:17
  Speaker 15: young when I was watching Neighbors, but even at that age,
• 46:20
  Speaker 15: you know, I don't think I was looking at Holly
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  Speaker 15: Valance and looking for racial grievance. I was much more
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: focused on other things at the time, I believe. But yeah,
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  Speaker 15: I mean, it was of ridiculous really that you've got
• 46:31
  Speaker 15: this guy here. I've been through hours and hours and
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: hours of its social media clips and YouTube clips, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 15: I'm yet to hear anything particularly profound. There is no
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: logical reason why this guy was elevated to the status
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: that he was. But he is symptomatic of this kind
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  Speaker 15: of style of individual which is all about grievance, seeing
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  Speaker 15: division through everything, seeing everything through the lens of race,
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: and all of that stuff. And yeah, well it looks
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  Speaker 15: like he's been found out now, doesn't it really? And
• 46:57
  Speaker 15: so have the people who elevated him to the those positions.
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  Speaker 15: Their intellect is going to be seriously question now. It
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  Speaker 15: should be a wake up call to everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've only got about a minute left. So
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately we're not going to get to those pamphlets advising
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  Speaker 1: migrants head across the English Channel. We're having too much
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: fun with Jason Day. So just quickly before we go
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  Speaker 1: Oxford Sorry, Cambridge University. I mean they must be shockingly
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: embarrassed by all of this. Well you'd have thought so.
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  Speaker 15: Actually, what happened initially was that a load of their
• 47:26
  Speaker 15: professors went into bat Forum signed a petition said that
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: this was all racism. What's happening here is racism. And
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: now he's thrown the towel in, so I imagine he's
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: got some explaining to do there. But this is, you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: supposedly one of the most respected institutions in the world
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  Speaker 15: for academia, and that reputation has taken an absolute pummeling here.
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  Speaker 15: And just think about this. There will be people out
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  Speaker 15: there who have worked their whole lives, who've got straight
• 47:51
  Speaker 15: a's at school, who've dedicated their lives to academia, who
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: will have been overlooked for jobs at Cambridges would have
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: been their dream because of some of these dea issues
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  Speaker 15: that we've seen here. And I imagine I wonder how
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  Speaker 15: they're feeling. And I wonder how the students are feeling
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  Speaker 15: that have got themselves into a lifetime of student dad
• 48:08
  Speaker 15: in order to go and be taught by people like
• 48:10
  Speaker 15: this guy. When it turns out now that the bloke
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  Speaker 15: teaching them basically was not who he says he was.
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  Speaker 15: That I was there might be wanting my money back.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I tell you what, You've got to laugh or
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you'll cry. Patrick Christie's always great to catch up. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: so much. That's all I've got time for. I'll see
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  Speaker 1: you on Sunday for the McPherson angele, but right now
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: stick around. He's sharing markson