Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on BNZ challenging Gloriavale over use of banking services
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now Gloria Vale has taken a knock in the battle
- 0:20Speaker 2: to keep access to banking services. Be and Z has
- 0:22Speaker 2: been wanting to close Gloria of Vale's accounts for two years.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Now it's going to be decided at trial. Genative Trainee
- 0:28Speaker 2: is The Herald's Wellington business editor and with us now, hey.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Jana, hey Heather.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Even before it gets to trial, there's going to be
- 0:35Speaker 2: a hearing on an injunction, right, and so these accounts
- 0:38Speaker 2: could close before it even goes to trial.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Is that right, Yeah, that's right. So B and Z
- 0:44Speaker 3: was upset because the court said that it had to
- 0:46Speaker 3: keep Gloria Vale's accounts open until the issue was dealt
- 0:50Speaker 3: with at trial. So B and Z went to the
- 0:53Speaker 3: Court of Appeal and said, hey, look, we don't agree
- 0:55Speaker 3: with this interim injunction. Now the Court of Appeal will
- 0:58Speaker 3: look at that issue. Depending on what the Court of
- 1:01Speaker 3: Appeal finds, you know, that could end up being quite
- 1:04Speaker 3: a big blow for Gloria Vale. Of course, you know,
- 1:07Speaker 3: like all of us, you need a bank account to
- 1:09Speaker 3: operate in today's society, and Gloria Vale is no different,
- 1:14Speaker 3: you know, to the rest of us.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's bnz's argument of white wants to suspend
- 1:17Speaker 2: the accouncil shut them down.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Well, bn Z took action in twenty twenty two after
- 1:24Speaker 3: employment court decision was made that said some former Gloria
- 1:29Speaker 3: of our members who'd been working in the community since
- 1:31Speaker 3: they were six years old should have been treated as employees,
- 1:35Speaker 3: not volunteers. So that prompted ben Z to say, sorry, Glorivale,
- 1:39Speaker 3: we want to get rid of you. We don't want
- 1:41Speaker 3: to bank you anymore because you know you're set up
- 1:45Speaker 3: doesn't align with our human rights policy. So bn Z
- 1:49Speaker 3: gave Gloria three glorival three months to find another bank.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Glorivale couldn't find another bank, so you know, the issue
- 1:56Speaker 3: has ended up in court. Now. The thing here here
- 2:00Speaker 3: that I think it's actually a really interesting case. A
- 2:03Speaker 3: for Gloria Vale, as I said before, it needs a
- 2:06Speaker 3: bank to sort of serve in the modern world. But
- 2:10Speaker 3: b this issue could set a legal president for other
- 2:14Speaker 3: banks in terms of you know, sort of providing some
- 2:19Speaker 3: clarity around the extent to which banks can choose who
- 2:22Speaker 3: they do business with.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Takes us to the Nigel Farage case, doesn't it, where
- 2:25Speaker 2: the bank just decided they didn't want to do banking
- 2:27Speaker 2: with him and that was the end of that.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Yeah, there are quite a few examples of this at
- 2:33Speaker 3: the moment, So cryptocurrency traders and businesses, also money remitters,
- 2:39Speaker 3: these are some of the things that have been d banked.
- 2:43Speaker 3: The banks have said, no, you pose too much of
- 2:45Speaker 3: a risk to us, you know, because we don't know
- 2:48Speaker 3: if you're laundering money, for example. That's been a concern
- 2:51Speaker 3: with some of the money remitters and the cryptocurrency people. So,
- 2:55Speaker 3: you know, there is this kind of larger debate at
- 2:59Speaker 3: the moment. Can banks choose who they do business with?
- 3:03Speaker 3: And you know, what are the consequences if banks say no, sorry,
- 3:06Speaker 3: we don't want anything to do with you. Is quite
- 3:09Speaker 3: a hot topic.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. What happens if Gloria Vale has its accounts
- 3:12Speaker 2: shut down? Do they have to just draw millions and
- 3:14Speaker 2: millions of dollars out and stick it in suitcases?
- 3:17Speaker 3: Gosh, well, we'd have to wait and see. You know,
- 3:21Speaker 3: this glory of Vale is definitely coming under increasing pressure
- 3:25Speaker 3: from so many fronts at the moment, So you know,
- 3:27Speaker 3: that this will be a key issue. It's lawyers, you know,
- 3:31Speaker 3: argue that these are a vulnerable people and you know
- 3:34Speaker 3: you can't just remove banking services from them. But you know, beans,
- 3:39Speaker 3: it is a private company. If it doesn't want to
- 3:42Speaker 3: give me a mortgage, it doesn't have to.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, Jennay, thank you very much. Thanks for runningus through it.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Jenetive trainee the Heralds Wellington Business Editor.
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