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'Best friend' says killer fiance asked mistress to KILL Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: us last October, one of their employees came to them
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Speaker 1: visibly upset. She explained her best friend, now identified as
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Speaker 1: Crystal Lee, told her that a man had asked her
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Speaker 1: to kill the mother of his child. The two then
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Speaker 1: told their employ to have Crystal come speak to them,
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Speaker 1: but she never did. The Roxalls say Crystal even told
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Speaker 1: her best friend to forget the whole thing. When we
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Speaker 1: asked Patty what made her come forward and call the FBI,
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Speaker 1: she said it was when she connected the dots of
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Speaker 1: who was involved and watching Kelsey's mother, Cheryl plead for
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Speaker 1: help on national television. I think the mother that had
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Speaker 1: the courage to go on TV when her daughter was
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Speaker 1: missing and saying that someone knew where she was at.
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Speaker 1: At that point, in my mind thought that Patrick and
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Speaker 1: that's the only name I had heard him call, that
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Speaker 1: didn't know his last name, had done something to her
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Speaker 1: daughter and he knew where she was at. Now. The
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Speaker 1: Roxells decided to come forward to kBT News after their
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Speaker 1: employee endured harassment and threats on social media. They tell
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Speaker 1: us the FBI was already in Twin Falls at their office.
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Speaker 1: Quickly after making the call, kBT asked Patty Roxell if
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Speaker 1: she considers herself a hero. She said no, She more
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Speaker 1: considers herself a whistle blower and hopes anyone else with
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Speaker 1: information to the case or other crimes as the courage
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Speaker 1: like she did to come forward. Where is Kelsey Barrett?
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Speaker 1: Did her so called killer fiance Jig Freeze's mistress tell
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Speaker 1: her best friend he asked her to kill Kelsey over
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Speaker 1: and over and over? And who is the Idaho couple
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Speaker 1: that say they call the FBI after hearing about these
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Speaker 1: so called plot from a co employee. I mean, see, Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is crime stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: You were just hearing from our friend Joe Martin there
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Speaker 1: at k m VT TV. We've got all the latest
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Speaker 1: as the story develops. In the Missing mom Kelsey Beareth,
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Speaker 1: Kelsey goes missing, last spotted on Safeway video with her
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Speaker 1: little girl Kelly, in the front of the grocery cart.
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Speaker 1: She's never seen alive again. Nobody, no clue. Her phone
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Speaker 1: pings nearly eight hundred miles away and another state near
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Speaker 1: Twin Falls, Idaho with me right now Crime Online dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter Ellen Colorin. You can find this in
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Speaker 1: every other breaking news story in crime a Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com. Alexis Terreschuk joining us from Radar online dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigative journalist Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family lawyer Stephen Lampley,
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Speaker 1: former detective and doctor. Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer and host
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Speaker 1: of investigation discoveries hit series Fatal vows straight out to you, Ellen,
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Speaker 1: kill Lauren. What can you tell me about this couple?
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Speaker 1: How did they know the alegend mistress and what do
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Speaker 1: they say about Phrasey asking her over and over to
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Speaker 1: kill Kelsey Nancy and Idaho couple has come forward, Joe
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Speaker 1: and Patty rock Style. Dave said that they contacted the FBI.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like it was back in December when they
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Speaker 1: eventually contacted the FBI, but they heard all the way
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Speaker 1: back in October that Patrick they have been asking Christa
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Speaker 1: Lee to help him kill Kelsey Barrett, their employee, came
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Speaker 1: to them. She was upset. She said, my fast friend
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Speaker 1: told me that a man asked her to kill his
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Speaker 1: baby's mother. At the time, they did not think they
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Speaker 1: had enough information to go to the police. And they
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Speaker 1: asked to speak to Chrystal Lee and she told her
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Speaker 1: friend to just drop it. But it certainly looks like
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Speaker 1: Christal Lee. More and more, it's looking like Christa Lee
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Speaker 1: is the person who is connected to these three solicitation charges.
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Speaker 1: Other sources have spoke to news outlets of set that
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Speaker 1: Patrick contacted her several times and asked her several times
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Speaker 1: to commit a crime. Man, it just never ends with
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Speaker 1: this guy. Alexis Terrestria writer online dot com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: So do you believe, Alexis, from what you were learning
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Speaker 1: that this mistress? Can you even have a mistress when
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Speaker 1: you're not married? Hold on, Alexis, I know you're happily
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Speaker 1: married with a beautiful baby boy and an awesome husband.
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Speaker 1: And he's not just for looks either. I remember when
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Speaker 1: you're a lung collapse and you and your desk door.
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Speaker 1: I saw him in the waiting room at the hospital, Alexis.
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Speaker 1: He was white as a sheet, fidgety. His face was
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Speaker 1: just like blank. He loves you, okay, and that's what
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Speaker 1: you need. You don't need some pretty boy, although he's
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Speaker 1: kind of cute. He's running across the street to get
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Speaker 1: a pack of cigarettes. When you need help. All right,
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Speaker 1: So this is not going to apply to you, doctor
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Speaker 1: Brian Russell, not that you're a runaround, but can you
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Speaker 1: even have a mistress if you're not married? Technically, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we keep saying his mistress. How could she be a
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Speaker 1: mistress if he's not even married? Well, I agree. Technically
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Speaker 1: a mistress is somebody that a married person is seen
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Speaker 1: on the side, on the side of what on the
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Speaker 1: side of their marriage. It's an extramarital a fairer partner,
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Speaker 1: a sex partner outside of the marriage. Okay, So now
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Speaker 1: that I've quasi got that established, back to you, alex
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Speaker 1: As Russia, what do we know about this woman? And
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Speaker 1: do you really believe from everything you and Ellen Klaurin
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Speaker 1: aren't gleaning that she the rodeo mom, the divorced mother
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Speaker 1: of two that apparently met him at a rodeo is
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Speaker 1: the target? Is the person they're referring to in three
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Speaker 1: counts of solicitation of murder? Absolutely I do. And you
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Speaker 1: know what, this couple was so scared that when they
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Speaker 1: heard this someone was trying to hire as somebody who
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Speaker 1: they had themselves their attorneys. They wanted to go to
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Speaker 1: the police. They just thought they'd have enough information. This
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Speaker 1: couple had so much information from their employee. They had
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Speaker 1: heard all about crystall Lee and that this man Patrick
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Speaker 1: was trying to have her kill somebody, and they did
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Speaker 1: everything they could. Their attorneys, they tried to speak with
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Speaker 1: Crystal Lee. The minute they saw Kelsey's mother on television,
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Speaker 1: they reached shout to the police and yes, I believe
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Speaker 1: that this woman, Crystal Lee, is the person that the
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Speaker 1: police are referring to. You know, this is another thing
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. Following up on what alexis terres Hut
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Speaker 1: with water online dot Com is reporting, Kathleen Murphy. If
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Speaker 1: a guy, I'm not married to him, I'm not engaged
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Speaker 1: to him, I'm not living with him, i don't have
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Speaker 1: a baby with him, and he starts talking about killing somebody,
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Speaker 1: that is the last time I'm gonna be around him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, for Pete's sake. That's what I tell the children.
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Speaker 1: And they're just eleven. If you can believe that, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: when you're in a group and there's a bully, or
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Speaker 1: someone is saying ugly things about someone else, or someone
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Speaker 1: is misbehaving or doing something wrong or naughty. Number one,
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Speaker 1: you should protect whoever's being bullied. But if nobody's being hurt,
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Speaker 1: you just need to leave, get away. Don't be part
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Speaker 1: of that because if the teacher comes after them, they're
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Speaker 1: going to get everybody in the group. And I always
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Speaker 1: tell them the story about And of course you're gonna
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Speaker 1: love this. As a lawyer. You're in YouTube, doctor Brian,
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Speaker 1: you get caught in a stolen car and you're just
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Speaker 1: in the backseat riding along. You go to jail two.
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Speaker 1: So when this guy starts talking about I want to
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Speaker 1: kill Kelsey Barrett, why did she stay? I'll tell you why, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: And this is the God's honest truth. People are so
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Speaker 1: concerned about their appearances that she felt so insecure that
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Speaker 1: she needed a tall, dark and handsome man on her
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Speaker 1: Facebook to validate who she was. I see it all
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Speaker 1: the time. Hey, can I weigh in on this issue? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Please do so. You know, I think this ties into
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Speaker 1: what you asked me a moment ago, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: can someone have a mistress when they're technically not married?
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Speaker 1: When they're unmarried? And the answer, technically, as I said,
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Speaker 1: is no. But that doesn't mean that somebody who is
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Speaker 1: in a mistress like role can't feel in their own
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Speaker 1: mind as though they're married to the person. I remember,
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Speaker 1: back when Tiger Woods was caught being a serial adulterer,
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Speaker 1: Gloria Allread was on a show with me and she
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Speaker 1: was representing this woman who was one of the extramarital
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Speaker 1: affair partners who wanted to it is that Ray soul
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Speaker 1: you could tell. I don't remember who it was, but
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Speaker 1: I remember that night go ahead. At the time she
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Speaker 1: was I think she was trying to set up all Red,
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Speaker 1: was trying to set up a lawsuit, but she was
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Speaker 1: the woman at least at the time, was just demanding
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Speaker 1: through Gloria that Tiger Woods apologize for having misled this
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Speaker 1: woman allegedly to believe that she was the only one
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Speaker 1: with whom he was cheating. She was righteously indignant to
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Speaker 1: find out that she wasn't the only mistress, and she
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Speaker 1: really was a mistress in that case because Woods was married,
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Speaker 1: so it may be something like that, which was ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to sue this guy because
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Speaker 1: he's he's he's you know, lying to to you know,
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Speaker 1: to me about all the things he's doing with other people.
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Speaker 1: It was ridiculous, and I called Gloria all read out
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Speaker 1: on it, and I asked her on the show, I said,
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Speaker 1: has your client apologized to Tiger's wife and kids? And
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Speaker 1: Gloria of course was flabbergasted that anybody would expect that.
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Speaker 1: And that's the last I heard of that case, by
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Speaker 1: the way, But it may be something so to that
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Speaker 1: here where this woman actually felt that, you know, she
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Speaker 1: had sort of replaced the wife that maybe she met.
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Speaker 1: Maybe true, doctor Brian, But when a guy starts talking
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Speaker 1: about killing someone, that's when you need to get him
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Speaker 1: off your Facebook and move on. Patrick Frazy appeared for
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Speaker 1: his daughter's custody hearing on Thursday and made questions about
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Speaker 1: his relationship with a woman from Idaho. Law enforcement sources
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Speaker 1: said they are now looking at a thirty two year
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Speaker 1: old nurse who possibly disposed of Kelsey Bear's phone, the
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Speaker 1: last sign of life from the missing Colorado mom, who
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Speaker 1: was last seen Thanksgiving Day shopping with her one year
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Speaker 1: old daughter. The woman in question is reportedly from Twin Falls, Idaho,
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Speaker 1: not far from where Bear's phone pinged on November twenty fifth.
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Speaker 1: The Twin Falls share us off is confirming to NBC
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Speaker 1: News that they've served search warrants in the case. Some
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Speaker 1: evidence was collected and processed earlier this week. Prosecutors suggested
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Speaker 1: others could be involved. There potentially could be other people
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Speaker 1: arrested in this case. A body has yet to be
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Speaker 1: but authorities no longer believed that the twenty nine year
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Speaker 1: old is alive, Offering two theories about Barrat's death, each
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Speaker 1: one represented by account of first degree murder against Bearer's fiance,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy. One alleges Barrett was killed deliberately, the other
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Speaker 1: alleges she died during a robbery he commissioned. Frazy also
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Speaker 1: faces three counts of solicitation to commit murder in the
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Speaker 1: month leading up to Barrat's disappearance. Court documents not giving
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Speaker 1: any details about who we approached or insight as to
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Speaker 1: why prosecutors think Frazy is responsible for his fiance's death.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing our friend at NBC. That's Steve Patterson reporting
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Speaker 1: that investigators now looking at this thirty two year old
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Speaker 1: Utah divorcee, a mother of two that apparently the killer
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Speaker 1: fiance as he has call hooked up with at a rodeo.
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Speaker 1: Did she dispose of Colorado mom Kelsey Bearra's cell phone
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Speaker 1: and if so does she know where Kelsey or her
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Speaker 1: remains are? Breaking news right now. Apparently a couple comes forward.
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Speaker 1: The mistresses best friend says he phrase, he asked the
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Speaker 1: mistress to kill the mother of his china. What does
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Speaker 1: that say about him? He's asking his girlfriend to commit murder?
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Stephen the Lampley joining us a veteran detective.
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, That's what I always say. Loose lips sink ships.
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Speaker 1: If you want a job done, do it yourself. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he told the girlfriend the mistress. The mistress blabbed to
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Speaker 1: her best friend and then hey, that's just like putting
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Speaker 1: it on the speaker, you know, Jesse, you might as
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Speaker 1: well just put it take out an ad on Third
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Speaker 1: Avenue in Manhattan. I solicited murder. That's how that works.
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, Well, that's true. I mean I've always heard
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Speaker 1: the phrase, what three you know? Everybody knows, and he's
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Speaker 1: not the brightest kitty, not the sharpest mike and the
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Speaker 1: jordanancy you run around and tell anybody when when you
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Speaker 1: start running your mouth. That's what gets most culprits. That's
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Speaker 1: why it gets most perpetrators, is the police waiting for
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Speaker 1: somebody to run their mouth and running and take care
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Speaker 1: of not just the emergence of this couple who apparently
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Speaker 1: calls the FBI with information regarding the disappearance of Kelsey
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Speaker 1: Bareth after they allegedly learn about Frasi's plot to kill
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Speaker 1: the mother of his baby girl. We also learned that
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Speaker 1: remains were discovered near the town of Aglare. What do
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Speaker 1: we know about that? Out to you, Ellen, colorin Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, what do you know about
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Speaker 1: those remains? Where we and Hawaii. For a little while,
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Speaker 1: there were some speculation that remains found at an abandoned
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Speaker 1: truck stop may have been connected to the Barrett murder
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Speaker 1: investigation because it was only about one hundred and thirty
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Speaker 1: miles from Woodland Park, where she lived. But that is
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Speaker 1: not the case. The remains have been identified as another
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Speaker 1: missing woman in Colorado. It has not been connected to
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Berth in anyway. So we know now that those
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Speaker 1: remains that were found near Aglare are not Kelsey Barreth.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting how they determined that so very quickly. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friend at km VT. Since we
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Speaker 1: first broke the story about Crystal being investigated by the
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Speaker 1: FBI and Colorado Bureau of Investigations. Her friends have reached
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Speaker 1: out to us to say they don't believe she's capable
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Speaker 1: of harm. What I hope comes up at this is
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Speaker 1: it the truth? You know above all else, It's the truth,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to see Crystel portrayed as a monster.
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Speaker 1: The truth always prevails and hopefully and her name can
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Speaker 1: be cleared. That's my hope. However, most of those friends
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Speaker 1: are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear
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Speaker 1: of backlash from the community. Kavt confirmed that the thirty
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Speaker 1: two year old Saint Luke's nurse is on the leave
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Speaker 1: of absence from the hospital. Court records also indicate she
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Speaker 1: got divorced in twenty sixteen. They have two children, a
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Speaker 1: son and a daughter. As a well involved member of
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Speaker 1: the community, the impact is felt both far and wide.
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Speaker 1: Knowing Crystel the way that I do, and as level
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Speaker 1: headed in his ground as she is, I really have
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Speaker 1: a difficult time believing that in just a short period
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Speaker 1: of time she could go from you know, an angel
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Speaker 1: to a monster and that is not Crystal. For those
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Speaker 1: close to Crystal, their love and support will never change.
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Speaker 1: Oh I will always stand behind Crystal. I believe in
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Speaker 1: her with all my heart. You are hearing km VT
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Speaker 1: reporter Kelsey Soto talking with a closer Rodeo friend. I'm
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Speaker 1: nurse Crystal Lee, the woman allegedly involved with a killer fiancee.
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Speaker 1: Now what I find also interesting to Alexis tres check
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Speaker 1: Right online dot Com investigative reporter is that when the
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Speaker 1: best friend went back and spoke to Crystall Lee about
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Speaker 1: it about coming forward, she say just forget it, forget
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. She wished she hadn't said anything. She
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Speaker 1: wanted to keep the murder plot secret. Alexis she did.
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Speaker 1: This happened in October when she told her best friend
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Speaker 1: that Patrick was trying to hire her to kill his
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Speaker 1: baby mama. Thank Kelsey's missing just weeks later on Thanksgiving,
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Speaker 1: the last time you see her life. The only evidence
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Speaker 1: that has any connection to Kelsey being alive after Thanksgiving
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Speaker 1: is a ping on her cell phone that happened in Idaho.
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Speaker 1: We are trying to connect the dots and to Stephen Lampley,
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Speaker 1: veteran detective. We know that Phrasey, the killer fiancee, did
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Speaker 1: not leave the Colorado jurisdiction after the time Kelsey went missing.
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Speaker 1: We know her phone pinged near the girlfriends near the
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Speaker 1: mistress in Idaho. Can't find Kelsey's body. What do you think,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley? Did the girlfriend the alleged girlfriend not only
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Speaker 1: get rid of the phone, but is there a chance
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Speaker 1: she also disposed of the body. That's a good chance.
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Speaker 1: We get six hundred miles Nancy from where a girlfriend
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Speaker 1: or whatever lived, and then six hundred miles from the
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Speaker 1: phone ping, So there's a lot of teck joy to cover.
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Speaker 1: This woman could be anywhere, really, and especially between those
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Speaker 1: two points. I mean, let's think through let's think through
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Speaker 1: human nature. Doctor Brian Russell, host of id's Fatal Vows series,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Brian, if he would, and again, this woman has
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Speaker 1: not been charged. This is just what we were learning
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Speaker 1: about the investigation. And according to this couple, phrasie Get
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Speaker 1: asked her to kill Kelsey, the mother of his little girl.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Brian, if he would ask her to kill Kelsey,
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Speaker 1: would he ask her to dispose of the body. Well,
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Speaker 1: it seems clear to me that if somebody's willing to
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Speaker 1: ask another person to help them with something, you know,
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Speaker 1: much more severe, as so severe as a murder, they
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have any problem asking them to help them with
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Speaker 1: something less severe, like a disposal of a body. And
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Speaker 1: as we have been talking here about, you know, why
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Speaker 1: might somebody not run for the hills as soon as
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Speaker 1: they realize that they're dating somebody who is, you know,
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Speaker 1: if not married, deeply involved with somebody else and has
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Speaker 1: a child and everything, and then on top of that,
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Speaker 1: wants them to participate in eliminating that other person. Maybe
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Speaker 1: one of the things that I thought of is, remember
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Speaker 1: back when Scott Peterson was caught and charged with murdering
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Speaker 1: his pregnant wife and child and the woman that he
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Speaker 1: had been dating, whom he had misled to think he
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Speaker 1: was a single. Guy couldn't come out of the woodwork
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Speaker 1: fast enough and go, oh my god, I feel so horrible,
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Speaker 1: so guilty. I was misled, I thought he was single.
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Speaker 1: Let me give you all the information that I can,
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Speaker 1: and felt just awful about being caught up in that
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Speaker 1: in any way whatsoever. Whereas here you've got somebody who apparently,
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Speaker 1: you know, was clearly aware of this guy's other relationship
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Speaker 1: and being a dad and all that, and then here
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Speaker 1: he comes and he's wanting her to help him to
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Speaker 1: kill his baby mom. And this woman is not running
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Speaker 1: for the hills, running to the cops, trying to help out,
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Speaker 1: And you think, well, what must be going on in
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Speaker 1: her mind? And one of the things that I think
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Speaker 1: might have been going on is she may have whipped
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Speaker 1: up in her mind kind of like that woman that
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Speaker 1: was thinking she was Tiger Woods's only mistress, did that
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Speaker 1: she's almost a wife to this guy, and maybe whipped
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Speaker 1: up into her mind that it's flattering that he wants
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Speaker 1: to eliminate this other woman so that he and her
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Speaker 1: can be together and raise his child or something. I
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Speaker 1: means as sick as that sounds, that people can whip
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Speaker 1: Ambert Parker, and I want to tell you about the
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Speaker 1: most beautiful time of my life. Its fark. A man
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Speaker 1: named yusefh Dirky says he created this video of Parker's
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Speaker 1: visit and says she came for love, not for trafficking,
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Speaker 1: and I love this man for the ter stars and
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Speaker 1: all heads. However, in another twist, Parker has a husband intigue.
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Speaker 1: According to documents, mister Parker says a year ago his
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Speaker 1: wife told him she was going to become a member
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Speaker 1: of a cult called WICCA. He says she created a
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Speaker 1: fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with strange men associated
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Speaker 1: with the organization. We found the profile where Parker disguises
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Speaker 1: herself as Zoey Singer. One photo posted says, don't try
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Speaker 1: to figure me out. I'm a special kind of twisted,
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Speaker 1: and another as a witch. I have three sides, the
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Speaker 1: quiet and sweet side, the fun and crazy side, and
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Speaker 1: the side you never want to see. Well, I wish
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Speaker 1: she had kept that side to herself. A Texas teacher
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Speaker 1: allegedly trying to sell a little girl dressed in lingerie
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Speaker 1: on line for sex in Morocco. A Texas teacher Amber
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. You know what, every day
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Speaker 1: I draw up the twins off at school because I
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Speaker 1: love their teacher. I love her. I guess that's what
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Speaker 1: all the other moms thought in this class a text.
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Speaker 1: This teacher goes online, dresses a little girl up in
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Speaker 1: lingerie and tries to sell her for sex with men
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Speaker 1: in Morocco. This is a junior high school teacher in
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Speaker 1: Central Texas. I want to go straight out to Alan,
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Speaker 1: joining us from La Allen. It's it's a little more
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Speaker 1: than I can take in. They're right right under our noses.
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Speaker 1: They're in Freestone County. The junior high school teacher trying
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Speaker 1: to sell a little girl dressed in lingerie online. What well,
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Speaker 1: and she teaches reading that. I mean, that's her. And
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Speaker 1: it's a small town. I mean, everybody knew this woman.
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Speaker 1: She could not hide. There are only eight thousand people
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Speaker 1: in this little town. I'm looking at the school. It's Mahea, Mahea,
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Speaker 1: Texas Mahea. I'm looking at the schools her page on
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Speaker 1: the school's website. I don't know if you've seen this picture,
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Speaker 1: but she just looks like a reading teacher, an eighth
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Speaker 1: grade reading teacher, and not a sex trafficker trying to
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Speaker 1: send a little girl to Morocco. This is really shocking.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I might add that January eleventh
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Speaker 1: is Human Trafficking Day in the USA, and I'm so
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Speaker 1: glad we're calling attention to this because, as we always say,
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Speaker 1: human trafficking is next door to you and in every
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Speaker 1: small town, including this little one in Texas. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's just more than I can take in. This eighth
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Speaker 1: grade reading teacher, age thirty seven, trying to sell an
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Speaker 1: underage girl into sex slavery in Morocco, even posting lurid
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Speaker 1: photos of the little girl online. I'm talking about Amber
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. Amber Michelle Parker, an eighth grade reading teacher,
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Speaker 1: accused of conspiring to lure the child to Morocco so
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Speaker 1: she Amber Michelle Parker can sell her to man after
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Speaker 1: man after man. It's apparent that she posted photos online
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Speaker 1: of the little girl exposing her chest. Now, Amber Michel Parker,
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Speaker 1: the eighth grade reading teacher, traveled to Morocco alone in December.
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Speaker 1: And what you were hearing earlier, let's take a listen
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Speaker 1: to that again, Jackie. You hear her talking about her
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Speaker 1: trip to Morocco for love and what a wonderful, loving
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Speaker 1: experience it was. She was paving the way to sex
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Speaker 1: traffic a little girl. Listen to her again. This is
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Speaker 1: Amber Parker, and I want to tell you about the
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Speaker 1: most beautiful time of my life. Is farther. A man
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Speaker 1: named yusefh Dirky says he created this video of Parker's
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Speaker 1: visit and says she came for love, not for trafficking,
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Speaker 1: and I love this man more than their stars in
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Speaker 1: all their heads However, in another twist, Parker has a
25:49
Speaker 1: husband intigue. According to documents, mister Parker says a year ago,
25:54
Speaker 1: his wife told him she was going to become a
25:57
Speaker 1: member of a cult called Wicca. He says she created
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Speaker 1: a fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with strange men
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Speaker 1: associated with the organization. We found the profile where Parker
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Speaker 1: disguises herself as Zoey Singer. One photo posted says, don't
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Speaker 1: try to figure me out. I'm a special kind of twisted,
26:16
Speaker 1: and another as a witch. I have three sides, the
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Speaker 1: quiet and sweet side, the fun and crazy side, and
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Speaker 1: the side you never want to see. Yeah, I wish
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Speaker 1: I had never seen it. But sadly we are joining
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Speaker 1: me Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned LA psychoanalyst, Karen Smith, forensics expert,
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Speaker 1: joining us out of the Florida jurisdiction, Atlanta felony prosecutor
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Speaker 1: Kenya Johnson. Of course, Alan joining me from LA in
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Speaker 1: the studio and here in our studio, Jackie Howard, I
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Speaker 1: want to go to doctor Bethany Marshall, you know, like Alan.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at our pictures right now and she looks like,
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Speaker 1: you know, some wholesome mom that just pulled a dozen
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Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies out of the oven raw, according to
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Speaker 1: the sheriff, their Freestone County Sheriff Jay Shipley, He says, quote,
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Speaker 1: she was online talking to multiple guys in Morocco, trying
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Speaker 1: to get it set up for she could take her
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Speaker 1: the little girl over there with her to them. Wisely,
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Speaker 1: detectives obtained a search warrant for all of Ambramschell Parker's
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Speaker 1: electronic devices. But let me get to the forensics in
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Speaker 1: just a moment, and then I'll follow up with the
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Speaker 1: legal angle with Kenyan Johnson. Dr Bethany Marshall, this is
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Speaker 1: an eighth grade reading teacher, What in the h E
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Speaker 1: double L is going on in her head? Okay? So
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Speaker 1: an aspect of sex trafficking that I think is little known,
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Speaker 1: and we see this unfolding in abusive households across the
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Speaker 1: nation is women who give up their own children or
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Speaker 1: younger female relatives to men, not necessarily for money, but
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Speaker 1: because they're using the children as bait to get the
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Speaker 1: affection of the man. So we think of sex trafficking
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Speaker 1: as motivated by money, but sometimes it's motivated by a
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Speaker 1: narcissistic need for attention or to exploit the child to
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Speaker 1: get access to other men. And one when I've read
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Speaker 1: this story, I was wondering if this woman is one
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Speaker 1: of these attention hungry, personality disordered women who will do
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Speaker 1: anything to get the attention of men. She goes to
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Speaker 1: another country, almost like a sex tourist. We see men
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Speaker 1: do this often go to third world country so they
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Speaker 1: can have access to people who are in more vulnerable positions.
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Speaker 1: She goes there and she offers up her own niece
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Speaker 1: in order to get access to these men. Now, the
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Speaker 1: side benefit is she's going to get paid, right, she
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Speaker 1: gets all these new relationships. She feels like important in
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Speaker 1: that society, but it's at the cost of her own child.
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Speaker 1: But don't think that this just happens in sex trafficking cases.
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Speaker 1: This happens on a mundane level in many households. You
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Speaker 1: see sometimes mothers who will maybe date or marry a
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Speaker 1: pedophile or somebody who has lured interest in their own
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Speaker 1: child because they think that the child will be like
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Speaker 1: the bait for the man. And that's just what That's
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Speaker 1: an aspect of this story. I keep wondering about an
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Speaker 1: eighth grade reading teacher thirty seven years old, is now
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Speaker 1: a suspect trying to sell her underage relative into sex
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Speaker 1: slavery in Morocco, posting lurid photos of the little girl
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Speaker 1: online dressed in lingerie with her chest exposed. If you
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Speaker 1: have children listening right now, please send them out of
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Speaker 1: the room. I'm giving you a teen count warning, okay,
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Speaker 1: because I'm about to read what we have obtained in
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Speaker 1: the sheriff's warrant. Again. If you have a child around
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Speaker 1: you right now, please send them out of the room.
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Speaker 1: The sheriff's warrant that we have obtained, states set Amber
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. This is found pursue it to search warrant
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Speaker 1: on her electronic devices. Quote talking about the little girl,
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Speaker 1: she the little girl wants to peel your uniform off
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Speaker 1: of you, cuffew and lick your abs. Okay. Then she
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Speaker 1: goes on to discuss with the two men there in
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Speaker 1: Morocco about flying to the US to have relations with
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Speaker 1: both her and the minor girl. This eighth grade reading
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Speaker 1: teacher goes on to tell the men online how old
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Speaker 1: the little girl is and that she is a virgin.
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Speaker 1: Soon after, the men begin trying to have Parker and
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Speaker 1: the minor girl travel to Casablanca, Morocco. This is according
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Speaker 1: to the warrant, and they're reading it straight off everything
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Speaker 1: Amber Michelle Parker was typing. They say that while mom
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Speaker 1: between the conversations, the more photos were sent to the men.
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Speaker 1: All of this is being orchestrated by this teacher. That
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Speaker 1: Parker had coached the little girl to take these photos,
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Speaker 1: telling her what positions to be in, what parts of
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Speaker 1: her body to expose. It goes on and on and on,
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Speaker 1: and this is all obtained through search wants for electronic devices. Now,
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Speaker 1: the McLennan County Sheriff Parnell McNamara says they have been
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Speaker 1: watching Parker for some time before they obtained all this information.
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Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to Karen Smith or
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Speaker 1: NSC's expert. What do you have to do in order
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Speaker 1: to dig up all of this electronic information. It's like
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Speaker 1: leaving a path a mile wide for the police, it
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Speaker 1: sure is. And you know, family members were the people
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Speaker 1: who tipped off the police that something was amiss. So
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Speaker 1: once they had that information and they found this secret
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Speaker 1: Facebook page that Parker had created, that started the ball rolling.
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Speaker 1: Once they started finding all of that public information, they
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Speaker 1: could get the search warrant and then do that deep
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Speaker 1: dive into her data, see that big footprint she was leaving.
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Speaker 1: Find out all of the information on likely her cell phones.
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Speaker 1: We listen, we live and die with our electronic devices.
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Speaker 1: I don't go anywhere without my cell phone, and likely
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Speaker 1: she didn't either. It wasn't just her laptop or home computer.
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Speaker 1: She was doing this stuff remotely. She was doing it
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Speaker 1: on her cell phone. So all of that information is
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Speaker 1: coming into play and they're going to bring it all
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Speaker 1: into court and it's going to tell the entire disgusting,
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Speaker 1: despicable story. According to warrants we have obtained from police,
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Speaker 1: Mahia teacher teaching eighth grade reading tales, trafficking victim, how
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Speaker 1: she should pose from me and on line, I mean,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, let me come back to you on how
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Speaker 1: that's going to affect this little girl the rest of
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Speaker 1: her life. But to Kenya Johnson more urgently, felony prosecutor
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Speaker 1: in the Atlanta jurisdiction, what charges can be leveled against
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Speaker 1: this reading teach or Ambra Michelle Parker, you know it's
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Speaker 1: gonna there's so many unanswered questions to decide all the charges.
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Speaker 1: But right now we're looking at sexual exploitation. We're looking
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Speaker 1: at a sexual battery, depending upon how the young lady
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Speaker 1: was positioned for the pictures. I've persecuted child molestation cases before,
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Speaker 1: and I've seen pictures of child pornography and the looks,
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Speaker 1: the hollow looks in the little girl's faces as they're
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Speaker 1: eight and nine and made to look sexy in suggested poses.
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Speaker 1: It's just haunting. And I'll never forget what those look like.
33:57
Speaker 1: And I can only imagine what those young ladies feel
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Speaker 1: like having to pose and such such suggestive poses. And
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Speaker 1: so a lots of more questions to be asked for
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Speaker 1: right now, we're already looking and law enforcement should be
34:11
Speaker 1: looking at what's going on with the young lady's life
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Speaker 1: right now? Is she already being abused? This may only
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Speaker 1: be the tip of the iceberg. Has she already encountered
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Speaker 1: sexual exploitation? And so those are some of the questions
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Speaker 1: that we'd be asking to formulate all the charges to
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Speaker 1: charge you with it. To doctor Bethany Marshall, I remember
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Speaker 1: the first time. I well, I prosecuted so many child
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Speaker 1: molestation cases, but I remember some of my first ones. Wait,
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Speaker 1: hold on, I remember my first one that I took
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Speaker 1: the trial, and it was the father that been molesting
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Speaker 1: the little girl. And this hollow look in the eyes
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Speaker 1: of the little victims. I saw it then, but just
34:57
Speaker 1: as a trial lawyer, I didn't saw it. I noticed it,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't know what it meant. That hollow look
35:06
Speaker 1: that Kenyan Johnson's describing. What is that, Well, the hollow
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Speaker 1: look is that they're very dissociated or disconnected from themselves,
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Speaker 1: that they can't even bear to be in their own bodies.
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Speaker 1: And we know that sexual child sexual abuse is the
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Speaker 1: one type of trauma that, even when it's only perpetrated
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Speaker 1: once against a child, scars the child for the rest
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Speaker 1: of their life. A child can be beaten, a child
35:35
Speaker 1: can be starved, left on the school steps not picked up.
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Speaker 1: All kinds of other trauma usually takes multiple incidents to
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Speaker 1: affect a child, but child sexual abuse, one incident changes
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Speaker 1: the psychology, the physiology, the psyche of a child permanently,
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Speaker 1: even resilient children. So that hollow look, I think it's
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Speaker 1: talk And i'd a layer to this. That wasn't this
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Speaker 1: teacher of female relatives. So this is somebody with whom
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Speaker 1: she had a trusted relationship, who was exploiting her that's
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Speaker 1: a whole other layer of trauma right there, and it's
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Speaker 1: something that goes with you for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 1: And as jarry and upsetting as this is, the little
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Speaker 1: girl was saved by the local sheriffs. She was taken
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Speaker 1: away before she got sent to Morocco to be with
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Speaker 1: all of these men that the school teacher was setting
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Speaker 1: up to Alan Duke joining me from La Alan. That's
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Speaker 1: the thing about trafficking. We always think of it, you know,
36:44
Speaker 1: as some guys from some other country kidnapping people taking
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Speaker 1: them away. It's not like that. It's happening right under
36:54
Speaker 1: our noses. Yes, I know we've done these shows, we've
36:57
Speaker 1: done these interviews, but we've also seen it up close.
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Speaker 1: It's in every small town you're reporting, my reporting, we've
37:04
Speaker 1: seen the tragic situations to where the shops in town
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Speaker 1: are being staffed by people who are not there under
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Speaker 1: their own will. It's not just sex trafficking. It's people
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Speaker 1: being forced into labor, passports, taken smuggled into the country.
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Speaker 1: It's a huge problem. Here in Los Angeles where I
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Speaker 1: am right now, there are thousands of people who are
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Speaker 1: considered to be slaves. And you know what, not just la,
37:29
Speaker 1: but all over the US, it's happening in this time.
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Speaker 1: It was an eighth grade reading teacher. Listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend at KWTXTV, this is ESA show foursomes, provocative photo exchanges, witchcraft.
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Speaker 1: Details of a Freestone County human trafficking case are revealed.
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Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old Amber Parker, an eighth grade reading
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Speaker 1: teacher at Mahead, resigned Thursday in connection with an alleged
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Speaker 1: sent back in November involving her underage female relative. According
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Speaker 1: to the affidavit obtained by Kubutx, Parker was sending sexual
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Speaker 1: three way messages to two Moroccan men on behalf of
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Speaker 1: the victim. Police say Parker talks about the men flying
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Speaker 1: to the US to have sex with both her and
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Speaker 1: the victim. While the men suggests the females come to Casablanca.
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Speaker 1: Parker provides the victim's age, marketing her as a virgin.
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Speaker 1: According to the affidavit. Then Parker takes and sends semi
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Speaker 1: nude photos of the victim, even directing her on poses
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Speaker 1: to quote keep the male interested in her Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: crime stories, signing off goodbye friend,