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Hour Two | A Gruesome Visit with Doc, Jimbo Fisher & LSU vs. Kentucky · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think sold the shirt seriously anyways uh
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  Speaker 2: doc what's going on how we doing We're doing good.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing good. How about y'all? Living the dream. Don't
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  Speaker 2: wake me up. Don't wake up. Nightmares are dreams too, Jake.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So one of the things we wanted to talk to
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  Speaker 4: you about, Taequann Thornton, Kansas City Chiefs receiver.
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  Speaker 2: And Matt said it perfectly the other day. Adrenaline is
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a thing. Hell of a thing. Can
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  Speaker 2: we bottle that up? My gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, his ankle is facing the complete opposite way,
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  Speaker 4: and he's trying to get up to celebrate.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, my God. He just, ah. Everything
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  Speaker 2: just is mush. But, like I said, adrenaline. You just
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  Speaker 2: made a big play. Yeah. And a big game. It's
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  Speaker 2: probably a weird feeling, like, when you go to put
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  Speaker 2: your foot down. Ah. Stop on your foot. It's facing
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  Speaker 2: the wrong direction, yeah. And you're not good. Not good.
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  Speaker 4: I remember when Dak Prescott did it, and he was
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  Speaker 4: trying to, like, bang it back into place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. On the ground. It's like, no, buddy. Don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: That does not help. Your ankle is facing down. south
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  Speaker 4: when it's supposed to be north medical advice don't do
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  Speaker 4: that but i was i was shocked to hear 12
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  Speaker 4: weeks for taekwon thornton really yeah 12 weeks just turn
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  Speaker 4: that thing right back like when they said yeah three
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  Speaker 4: months now they said like that's being aggressive that's everything
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  Speaker 4: going right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it's all about how many other injuries there are
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  Speaker 6: you know obviously you had a dislocation most of the
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  Speaker 6: times you have a dislocation of the ankle you're going
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  Speaker 6: to break a bone as well The ankle doesn't dislocate
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  Speaker 6: that easily, so usually it means you broke at least
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  Speaker 6: one of the two lower leg bones, the fibula or
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  Speaker 6: the tibia.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on what other injuries there are.
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  Speaker 6: Do you have some cartilage damage? Did you tear some ligaments?
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  Speaker 6: If so, which ones and how bad? How big are
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  Speaker 6: these defects? If everything goes well, they do heal. It's
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  Speaker 6: funny how that looks worse than a lot of these
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  Speaker 6: other injuries that we see that are seven, eight, nine months.
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  Speaker 6: The optics of it are bad, but it is one
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  Speaker 6: that people will get back from you know, in that
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  Speaker 6: three-month mark.
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  Speaker 2: Again, like you said, if everything was perfect. Is it
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  Speaker 2: even possible for a foot to be facing the complete
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  Speaker 2: opposite direction and not to have torn ligaments or cartilage?
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  Speaker 2: Not really, no. No, yeah. These are ligament injuries. Usually
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  Speaker 2: if you dislocate any joint, you're going to have ligament damage. Right.
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  Speaker 6: Again, like with so many things we talk about, the
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  Speaker 6: question is which ones and how severe, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: how big was the injury. Is it something where they're
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  Speaker 6: going to have to go in and reconstruct a lot
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  Speaker 6: of that?
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  Speaker 2: Is it something where it's going to be more minimal?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes if you just kind of reset the ankle and
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  Speaker 6: if there's a fracture, you know, you kind of take
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  Speaker 6: care of the fracture. Sometimes a lot of the other
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  Speaker 6: parts of the ankle will kind of heal up in
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  Speaker 6: that setting. So it's a lot of kind of variability
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  Speaker 6: in just how much we have to do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is good.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry to cut you off, but do those heal faster,
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  Speaker 4: the ligaments in that area, compared to the knee?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes, yes. Yeah, typically they will. It's all about which ligament.
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  Speaker 6: For example, an MCL injury, you know, we've talked, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 6: a lot about those lately. heal pretty quickly, you know,
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  Speaker 6: by comparison to an ACL at least. So some of
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  Speaker 6: it is where is the ligament? What is the ligament?
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  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of it comes down to circulation
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  Speaker 6: and blood flow and all these other variables that affect it.
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  Speaker 6: And a lot of the ankle ligaments are probably more
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  Speaker 6: akin to, say, an MCL. They're going to heal a
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  Speaker 6: little bit more rapidly. And then sometimes you have to
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  Speaker 6: do some reconstructions and things like that as well, though,
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  Speaker 6: so that can all lay variables there.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm saying this fully aware of what time of
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  Speaker 2: the day it is. It's early. It's more early. Some
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  Speaker 2: people are eating some breakfast, having some coffee. Uh, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask kind of a gruesome question.
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  Speaker 4: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: Um, when it happens like that. Okay. So your toes
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  Speaker 2: usually point forward. They're pointed backwards. Correct. Um, okay. So
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have ligament, potentially bones caught like, but
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  Speaker 2: what about like the skin?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Does the skin rip? It does. Can it rip like that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. For sure.
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  Speaker 6: So, so, so when you have a, any kind of
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  Speaker 6: a fracture dislocation, you know, one term you'll hear thrown
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  Speaker 6: out there, was it open or closed? Open meaning that something,
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  Speaker 6: punch through to the, to the environment. So an open
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  Speaker 6: fracture or an open dislocation is usually when a bone
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  Speaker 6: punches through the skin. Um, that's these kind of sometimes
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  Speaker 6: called a compound compound is, is, is another term. So, um,
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  Speaker 6: whereas closed is, you know, you can have a pretty
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  Speaker 6: bad fracture, but everything's still intact. Now that's also part
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  Speaker 6: of the reasons that you want to try and get
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  Speaker 6: these things pop back in pretty quickly, especially ankles because
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  Speaker 6: of what can sometimes happen too, is if that bone
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  Speaker 6: is pushing up against your skin, we call that tinting
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  Speaker 6: the skin. And if it's pushing up long enough, it
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  Speaker 6: can actually start to compress circulation, blood flow, and what
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  Speaker 6: maybe didn't start off open, if you don't treat them rapidly,
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  Speaker 6: can become open.
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  Speaker 2: So you just pop them back in? Just pop them
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  Speaker 2: back in.
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  Speaker 6: That's why usually on the field, if something's dislocated and
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  Speaker 6: if we can get it to reduce pretty quickly, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to try and do so.
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  Speaker 2: If it's something where... we realize it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a little more complex.
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  Speaker 6: We're still going to try and get it done as
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  Speaker 6: quickly as possible while you're on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Before you pop something like that, you don't get confirmation
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  Speaker 2: that there's not a bone that's broken or anything? Most times, no.
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  Speaker 6: You kind of look at it and see. There are
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  Speaker 6: different times. If you have a big piece of bone
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  Speaker 6: sticking out, sometimes that's going to affect what we have
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  Speaker 6: to do or not do. In that scenario, you might
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  Speaker 6: just try and staunch the blood bleeding and then try
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  Speaker 6: and reduce it once you get to a more sterile environment.
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  Speaker 4: All right, this is probably going to be a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of an odd question, but I'm sitting here and I'm, like,
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  Speaker 4: thinking about things like, okay, well, can you be tough?
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  Speaker 4: Can you tough it out through this injury? What's, like,
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  Speaker 4: the worst injury that you somehow, someway can tough it out, like,
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  Speaker 4: in a week or two, but it's going to be painful,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a pain in the butt, but technically, like,
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  Speaker 4: you can't do, you know, more damage.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Because, like, you know what I hear about injuries, it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's bad, but I think maybe he can push it
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  Speaker 4: and play.
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  Speaker 6: And I guess there are some, and again, can there
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  Speaker 6: be an injury? Of course, there's always that. But, for example,
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  Speaker 6: you know, look, we've had a lot of guys that
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  Speaker 6: have played with fractured ribs. You know, I remember with
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  Speaker 6: the Drew Brees injury several years ago when he had
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  Speaker 6: multiple fractured ribs. I think he had something like eight
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  Speaker 6: fractured ribs. And he came back and played, you know,
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  Speaker 6: well before those fractures were healed.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see that.
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  Speaker 6: Jameis Winston had a– when he had his back injury,
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  Speaker 6: he had some spinous process fractures in the spine. Literally
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  Speaker 6: broke his back. And those you can play, depending on where,
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  Speaker 6: of course, what type of an injury you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: But it's more the projections off the side of the spine.
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  Speaker 6: So those you can sometimes do. So a lot of
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  Speaker 6: it is, you know, some of these fractures that maybe
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  Speaker 6: the complication risk is small.
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  Speaker 2: So there are broken bones you can play with. It
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  Speaker 2: does happen. So those are the first ones that pop
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  Speaker 2: to mind. But there's probably a long list of them
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  Speaker 2: as well. I know for me, plantar fasciitis. That's a
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  Speaker 2: real painful one, yeah. It sounds cute. We had a guy, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He was like a Pro Bowl player, and he had it,
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  Speaker 4: and he missed like four weeks. I had it, and
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  Speaker 4: they were like, how long are you going to be out?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm a fullback. I've got to practice.
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  Speaker 2: I can't miss.
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  Speaker 4: And on one foot, it popped. On the other foot,
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, it didn't. And the one that
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  Speaker 4: did not pop was more painful than the one that popped.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes there are those injuries where, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 6: funny too, like not even necessarily talking about with just athletes,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, I'll get somebody that comes in with
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  Speaker 6: like a rotator cuff tendinitis. That's just, they're dying. They're
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  Speaker 6: in agony and they're not being soft or weak or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're sweating. And cause that is really painful.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of times you get the guy that comes
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  Speaker 6: in the tourist cuff and then you can't raise his arm,
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  Speaker 6: but he's like, Oh, it doesn't really hurt that bad.
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  Speaker 6: So it's kind of the same principle. Sometimes this, I
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  Speaker 6: tell patients all the time, pain does not.
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  Speaker 2: Always dictate severity.
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  Speaker 6: You would think certain injuries, the more severe, the more
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  Speaker 6: painful it's sometimes true, but not always. So something like
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  Speaker 6: a plantar fasciitis is really painful and, But we don't
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  Speaker 6: think of it as nearly as serious as, say, a
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  Speaker 6: broken bone or a torn ligament or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: When I took my cleat off, it looked like I
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  Speaker 2: had frostbite. You know when Mr. D's, when he takes
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  Speaker 2: his shoe off and he's got black foot? Black foot.
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  Speaker 2: That's what mine looked like. Yeah, you got that bleeding
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  Speaker 2: and that plantar fascia. Why would you do that? You're sick. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And we were about to have kickoff, and I was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be out there for the coin toss.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like.
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  Speaker 4: Doc was trying to like tape it a special way
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  Speaker 4: and then like they were like we.
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  Speaker 6: Need a metal plate for his cleat oh it was
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  Speaker 6: not fun yeah that was not a fun thing i
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  Speaker 6: felt like i was running down on kickoff with like
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  Speaker 6: a wooden.
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  Speaker 2: Boot on i just kick the kick do the kickoff
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  Speaker 2: with that thing yeah might as well what about sprained
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  Speaker 2: ac joint.
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  Speaker 6: So sprained ac joint that's the the chromium covicular joints
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  Speaker 6: the joint on top of the shoulder collarbone meets the
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  Speaker 6: shoulder That's one that we see a lot, and that
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  Speaker 6: is one that at times can be quite painful. And
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  Speaker 6: typically guys can play through that one.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to, like, increase, like, severity. Not really, no,
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  Speaker 2: not really.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you might have some– you may prolong the injury,
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  Speaker 6: you know. So if you have an AC sprain and
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  Speaker 6: you keep playing on it, it's not going to heal
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  Speaker 6: as quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So you're definitely going to potentially prolong it.
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  Speaker 6: But even when people have pretty big injuries there where
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  Speaker 6: they– you can even see, like, sometimes a separation where
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  Speaker 6: that collarbone kind of sits up. You know, we call
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  Speaker 6: it grade two or grade three. Most of the times,
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  Speaker 6: those are injuries we don't fix, and really in anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Still got a nice little bump. Got a little bump. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a little bump right there.
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  Speaker 4: And you have to wear the pad, like the extra
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  Speaker 4: pad that's like this big. I did.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I missed the SEC championship.
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  Speaker 4: Like a little raised piece that you're supposed to put
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  Speaker 4: like right over the AC joint.
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  Speaker 2: I think they put that over there. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it did. I just ended up, Doc, I just
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  Speaker 2: ended up wearing that like no matter what. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There comes a point. I had like a left shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I was left shoulder tendency to block. I
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  Speaker 4: just ended up wearing it.
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  Speaker 2: It worked. This bump right here. That got us two
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  Speaker 2: points versus Arkansas. Not a big deal. Did we win
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  Speaker 2: the game? That's a two-point bump right there. Did we
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  Speaker 2: win the game? That's a two-point bump there. Did we win,
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  Speaker 2: at least? In our hearts. You really were made of
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  Speaker 2: glass there at the end, huh? Shut up. I gave
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  Speaker 2: my body up. No SEC championship game. I wanted to, too.
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  Speaker 2: Very badly. Couldn't lift more on the dot. It's hard
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  Speaker 2: to play ball when you can't lift an arm. They
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  Speaker 2: gave me three lidocaine shots during the game in the shoulder. Three? Three.
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  Speaker 2: It's a solid day. The first one wore off before
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  Speaker 2: the Hail Mary. I think I've told that story before.
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  Speaker 2: The shortest Hail Mary of all time.
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  Speaker 4: 36 yards.
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  Speaker 2: 36 yards. It wore off right before I went out there.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I don't know. This might be
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  Speaker 2: parallel time for this Hail Mary. But now I can
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  Speaker 2: do this. Adrenaline will get me. I think we need
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  Speaker 2: to pull that tape up again. Adrenaline is serious. We
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  Speaker 2: discussed it. It is. It is serious. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why this just stuck to me about like weird injuries
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  Speaker 2: that seem to that don't sound like they sound kind
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  Speaker 2: of harmless, but they make a huge deal for even
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  Speaker 2: the biggest, baddest, strongest big toes. Yeah. You hear a
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  Speaker 2: lot about, like, was it Terrell Owens that had, like,
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  Speaker 2: a toe one time? Turf toe is the one that
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  Speaker 2: you hear about so much.
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  Speaker 6: Turf toe and the one– I think I've told this
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  Speaker 6: story before, but I always remember Deion Sanders when he
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  Speaker 6: was playing, had a turf toe injury.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And, again, this was way back. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm young.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what the difference between– and I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: how is this guy not playing with a toe injury?
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  Speaker 2: He may be the softest guy ever. Toes are tiny.
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  Speaker 2: I remember my dad being like, oh, Deion Sanders, what
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  Speaker 2: the hell? Oh, it was– Turf toe? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 6: And I remember it vividly because I was so, like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, just– It moved me so much thinking about it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, how's this guy not playing with a hurt toe?
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  Speaker 6: He's like the best cornerback in the league, and you
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  Speaker 6: can't play because your toe hurts. And now understanding these injuries,
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  Speaker 6: your big toe injuries are borderline debilitating, and if they're
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  Speaker 6: bad enough, can even be like season, career-ending injuries.
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  Speaker 2: Big toe, so much of your force goes through that
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  Speaker 2: side of the foot.
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  Speaker 6: As you move further and further to the outside, it's
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  Speaker 6: not as crucial, but that big toe is so important
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  Speaker 6: to everything you do, push, plant, land, jump.
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  Speaker 2: Explain what a turf toe is again. I know we
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  Speaker 2: talked about it, but it's probably been like a year,
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  Speaker 2: and I definitely forgot.
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  Speaker 6: So the turf toe is when you basically, it's basically
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  Speaker 6: an injury to the joint, the joint that's at the
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  Speaker 6: base of the toe.
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  Speaker 2: So where the toe attaches the foot.
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  Speaker 6: And depending on severity, you can basically tear off that
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  Speaker 6: plate that's underneath there, kind of where that ligament attachment is.
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  Speaker 6: And look, if you tear it off completely, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: your toe just won't work. Every time you try to
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  Speaker 6: plant on it, I mean, it just doesn't have the
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  Speaker 6: support it needs. It hurts like snot every time you
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  Speaker 6: do that. There's things we can do for the milder
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  Speaker 6: versions where it's more of a sprain of that joint.
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  Speaker 6: and you can put in, like, the metal plate in
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  Speaker 6: the shoe. Sometimes we'll do that for the turf toe injuries.
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  Speaker 6: You can do tape jobs and things like that. Sometimes
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  Speaker 6: even medications to sort of make it feel better. But
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  Speaker 6: once that thing blows, once it pulls off completely, if
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  Speaker 6: it's a severe injury, it's just not going to work.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't it kind of one of those deals, too, where, like,
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  Speaker 4: if you get it in game three, you can play,
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  Speaker 4: but you're going to feel it in game 12 probably?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Should we just– Let's rename it. Can we call
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  Speaker 2: it Death Toe? I think a tougher name would help.
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  Speaker 2: I think Death Toe is good. Death Toe. Death Toe injury. Tornado.
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  Speaker 7: That sounds like something you get on the Oregon Trail.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it does. You got death toe. You die because
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: of your death toe. She was great, but she got
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: the death toe up there. She got the death toe.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: In Salem, Oregon, on the trail. Bandits, snake bites, dysentery,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: and death toe. That's what gets you in Oregon Trail.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: All right, Doc, we appreciate you. Thank you, sir. Always
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: a pleasure. Thank you. I hope we don't see you
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: again this week. Yeah. Don't want to see your face.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Had a boring Saturday this past Saturday. I'm good with
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: that again. There you go. Perfect. Love it. That is true.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I was very glad not to see it. You're handsome.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. But we don't want to see it.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Don't want to see that.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Not in action.
• 15:11
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  Speaker 2: Your finger paintings don't suck. What's up? How we doing?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Doing great. That was a gruesome segment. Yeah. I didn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: love the skin talk. It was just a random thought,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and I think... Real question? No, it is. We get that. Like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: here at OTB, we ask the tough questions.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: When someone's foot is facing the wrong way, I just
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: assume that everything in there is shredded.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Just melted.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Everything.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Just absolutely melted. Just shredded.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: And so, like, when I heard Tyquan Thornton for the
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Chiefs could come back in 12 weeks, I'm like, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: hell he can.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: That's a 12-month injury to me. He's got mush in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: his ankle right now. When I see that, I'm like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that's a 12-month injury. Me too. 12 years. Yeah. 12 weeks.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: So our old team doctor for the Chargers, Dr.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Chow, is kind of like basically Twitter doctor. Like any
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: injury in the NFL, he's the go-to.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: He has a whole business based off of it, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: fantasy football and betting and He immediately reacts to any injury.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: And we had him on our shows on Mondays. And again,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: he was our team doctor in San Diego. But when
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: he told me 12 weeks, I was like, shut up.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: No way. Get out. Can't be.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: He's like, now that's with a lot of aggressive treatment
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: and everything going right. I'm like, I don't care if
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: everything goes right. There's no way that that man can
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: be back on a football field in three months.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It's wild.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: His foot was turned the other way.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: You tell me he's going to be back in three months?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I just don't get how everything's not, again, shredded in
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: there where there's nothing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: There's just a pocket of blood in a foot. Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's just dangling. It just melts inside.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: There's nothing left. Like, the bones are gone.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Just ankle soup. Ankle soup.
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: Ugh.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Ankle soup and death to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I hate that. Hate, hate, hate. Hate ankle soup. Sorry.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: We're just, we're laughing because it's uncomfortable. Just laughing through
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the pain.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, Kind of what he did on the field.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, come here, help me up. Yeah, he did, man.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: He's like, can you believe this?
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: I need to stop thinking about this.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, it was really great to see, and I meant
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it with all my heart, that I don't want to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: see Doc on TV anymore. But it was really great
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to see this past weekend. That's the fear in those games, right?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Because injuries have been so prevalent all season long. We've
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: got a lot of misfortune, LSU, with injuries. So it was...
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You know, having a seemingly pretty decent game in that aspect,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: which was needed.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: No?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: From that standpoint, yes. Yeah. For sure. A lot of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: players got a lot of playing time. I was looking
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: at you when I was saying that, and I was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: looking at your face. I was like, did I miss one?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Did I miss one? No, I don't remember anything. Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: No more injuries all year. And that's with running 101
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: plays on offense, too. So you're out there for a while.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of plays. School record. That's a long
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: film breakdown for those kids.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So that's a six-hour, Matt.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That's a six-hour sit-down. That's a six-hour sit-down.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: I don't want to go through 101 plays.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine Jimbo going through 101 plays? Yeah, I can.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It took him forever to go through 47. I can
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: definitely imagine it. Now, Matt.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Come here.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Now, why would you do this? Let me just ask
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you something. Why would you do that? Why? I mean,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you saw the safety dam right here. Nickel backed up.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: Then you decided to do this?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That's not what we went through. Wow, what would he
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: say when you... Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: What would he say when you'd kind of do something
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: on your own? He had a way of saying it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Like when you kind of would.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Go rogue and do your own thing. God, he used
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to have a way of saying it. I'll have to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: think about it. I just remember him just getting all
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: worked up. It's all about you. It's all about you. Hey,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: just forget coaching. Forget coaching. It's all about you. Hey,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you know best. Do your own thing out there, bud.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not even going to ask. You know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just happy. I'm just happy because you're consistent. At
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: least you're consistent. You consistently mess up.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Who got it the worst from him?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Marcus Randall. Oh, that's true. Allie Broussard got it pretty bad.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I love Marcus. Maybe I thought it was worse because
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I was new at LSU, too. I was like, what's
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: happening right now? From a receiver standpoint, well, tight end
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Donnie Jones. Oh, that's the answer. You're right. face jones
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: skyler would get it pretty good too good skyler had
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: a nickname out there that was what was it matt
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: we're gonna keep that one in the lock all right
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: fair oh imagine if they were everybody got it buster
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: would get it pretty good from him too yeah um.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, all the corner, like me and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Marcus got it pretty, pretty bad too. But, uh, Marcus was, yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's the answer for me at least right now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not me, it's him. I'm going
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to face Jones. Face was, I mean, faith, one liners
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: face would have his moments where he got the, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: wish your parents never met. Yeah. And different versions of that. Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: There was also a DC situation where he was from.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Can't talk about that one. We should probably
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: move on before we incriminate Jimbo. Yeah. Because we love him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: We do. We love the guy. Could be coaching Florida
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: State again, according to rumors. Well, their current coach doesn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: need a coach there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: True.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Jimbo would do it for free. For sure.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Swear to God. He might.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's still getting paid out by them.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I think he would do it
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: for nothing. Or by A & M, right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: He's got enough money.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He could just pay Norvell's buyout with that A &
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: M money.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think he would literally take the bare minimum. They
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: had to pay him to be a state employee. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: will say, I would assume that he stays pretty in
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: tune with the ebbs and flows, the updated types of offense,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: different things that they're doing, because everything improves over time.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I think that was one thing at A & M
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: that I saw that I noticed from their offense, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: this is before I did radio or anything, so I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't breaking down film. I was just watching. I recognized
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: most of the plays that they were running at Texas
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: A & M, Yeah. Which is good, because there's only
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so many ways that you can do it, but it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: looked very familiar, right? Like, it didn't update. Paint and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: win and all, you know. Yeah, like, and volunteer and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, which is all great plays, like, and
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they all have their purpose and their time, but it
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't a whole lot of new stuff in Indy. Yeah, 35.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: 35, yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Right, you're... Building on top of those things. Yeah, you
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: build on top of those things. That's like the foundation.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: It's not everything. So if he does, which I hope
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: he does because I love Jim, but I think he's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a very, very good coach. And I know that there's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a lot that goes with that from a Texas A
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: & M standpoint, their fandom and all that, blah, blah, blah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I don't really care. I just know he's a very
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: good football coach. Loves it. Loves the people he coaches
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and is very intense, obviously, but can recruit his team.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: tail off. All those players that we used to get
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: from Miami, that was Jimbo. That was all Jimbo. 100%
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Jimbo got all those players out of Miami. I came
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to LSU because of him, not because of Saban. Saban
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: at that point wasn't the GOAT. I loved Jimbo.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: He hadn't even won one at that point for you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: He had won one right before for me. Right, yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: at that point. Who was your area recruiter? Kirk Dahl.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Dahl was mine, too. But then Jimbo took over once
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the scholarship stuff started happening, the offers.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: After Dooley screwed it up with your fat ankles. Hey, Nick,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Derek's over here telling us this guy's got fat ankles
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: and can't play.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Tell Dooley don't worry about these quarterbacks. I'll handle the quarterbacks.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Derek Dooley don't know a quarterback if you hit him
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: right in the ass, all right? Fat ankles.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: We got to get him back on.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: We did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: He was good when he came on.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: That's how we got the Kinkle. I know.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: He gave us that ammo.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: He gave us that. Oh, so good. He's got to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: be like a top of the hour, 30 minutes.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: We'll catch up on some breaks sometime down the road.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: We should get him on Eye in the Sky.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be fun. You know how long you'd
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: be in that seat over there? Bro, you get me
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and Jimbo talking about film.
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: I'll have to give you, like, a 15 play limit.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Because Jimbo would then, hey, Flynn, hey, you know what
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: that play's like? You remember that time back in 2004?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: But the people would love it. We were playing against Troy,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: and they were playing quarter-to-quarter halfs over there, and.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It was third and seven. Like, no, Jimbo, I don't.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: I don't remember.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And he does. He absolutely does. He called quarters in
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the red zone red seven. Yeah. Which I don't understand.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it either. But he did it. That's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: what I called it when I was, like, in green.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's red seven. Like what? No,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: just tight quarters. I've heard tight quarters. Tight quarters, yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: But I've never heard Red 7. Red 7! Anyway, good stuff.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Way to reminisce. Memory lane. God, we're going to crush Kentucky.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So much.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: The O-line's bad?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: The O-line's bad?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Theirs? Theirs is good. Their D-line doesn't get off blocks.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Their D-line's bad. Yeah, their D-line can't get off blocks.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They struggle.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Well, Kenny Menchie said that LSU's defense has never seen
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: an offense like Kentucky's.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: They haven't because. This is a really good one. Because
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they'll just line up with, like, a billion tight ends, like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: in the I formation and then shift out into. Into doubles? Into, like, doubles.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Two by two? Watch this shift.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's to confuse you, Matt, obviously.
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Watch this shift. And then they'll shift. And, like, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: defense is just looking at each other like, what?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: We didn't even have to move.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We didn't have to move. What are they doing? That
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was dumb. But you're right, Kenny Menchie. You are playing well.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: 11 touchdowns, one interception. So kudos to you. Playing well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Almost 70% completion. Almost. I would argue that LSU's, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss is a pretty good offense. Yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: I think the Ole Miss's issue is on the defense.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: More than the offense.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I'd rather play Kenny Menchie than Trinidad Chambliss.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: For sure.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to Kenny Menchie, but, I mean, I'd rather
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: play him than Trinidad.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Don't get it twisted.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted. Kenny Minchie has been playing well.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He is a good quarterback. Yeah. Period. They're a good team.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: There's no more exaggeration. He's a good quarterback. Yeah, they're
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a solid team. He's a solid. He's going to not
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: do anything stupid. He's going to run their offense. He's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: going to take that check down or that under route
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: or that on a naked bootleg. He's going to hit
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the guy on the fly. and he's going to pick
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: up six yards and then they're going to run it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and then he's going to motion a bunch of people
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and he's going to throw it deep into a safe
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: place where his guy catches it or nobody catches it
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and if it's not there he's going to scramble around
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and instead of running it he's going to throw it
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: away yeah unless he has to run it because he
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: stepped up in the A or B gap, and he
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: can't run out of bounds. And he's going to do it,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and he's not going to throw it into harm's way.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: If he's not sure about it, he'll take a sack.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And that's about it. And then you're going to turn
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: on ESPN SportsCenter's top ten, and he's not going to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be on it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: Poor guy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: No, not poor guy. He's playing great.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He ain't going to lose you a game.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: He's playing great. All right, on that note. We'll take
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a break.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: We'll take a look at the SEC schedule. We've still
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: got to take a look at what's next for the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints. I know we talked about it yesterday
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: in a recap from what was a very poor performance
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: on Monday night, so we'll get to.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: All of that when we come back here on OTB.
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  Speaker 4: All right, as we continue talking LSU and Kentucky, again,
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  Speaker 4: LSU has not had a lot of success in Lexington.
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  Speaker 4: It has certainly been a bugaboo for them to go
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  Speaker 4: up and play in Lexington. You had to have a
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  Speaker 4: miracle play in, was it 2002, 2007? We lose in
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: triple overtime.
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  Speaker 2: 2021, they beat you up. So you have not had
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  Speaker 2: great fortune there. Hasn't been easy in Lexington.
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  Speaker 4: So knowing that, knowing it's a sold out Kroger field
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  Speaker 4: as well, it is going to be Whatever their environment
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  Speaker 4: turned up to an 11 is, that's what it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be. And I got to say, in 2021, I
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  Speaker 4: was warning people, hey, this place can get kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't have a ton of people, but when they're good,
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  Speaker 4: they're here.
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  Speaker 2: And it was. So it's going to be a good environment.
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  Speaker 2: They're all jacked on bourbon. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: They just went to the races earlier in the day.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be a good environment. It's going to
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: be a good football team. It's going to be some
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: long travel, more than you're used to. There's things that
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: you have to handle. Are you the better team?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. Are you the more talented team?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Are you, you know, from top to bottom roster-wise going
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: to have more Jimmies and Joes?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. And you have some advantages too.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: But the one thing this coaching staff, and I've been
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: around them a couple times now traveling with the team,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: they do a really nice job of trying to treat
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: every opponent the same, trying to highlight. And we haven't
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: seen this team really come out and just lay an egg.
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  Speaker 4: Even against Louisiana Tech, it was close, and then you
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: pull away. Remember last year, a lot of times you
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: never pulled away. Western Kentucky was like 13-10. In this
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: game against McNeese, what do you do?
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  Speaker 2: You handle business.
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  Speaker 4: In the third quarter, you started to go the other way,
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  Speaker 4: and you flipped it back again. So I think mentally
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  Speaker 4: they understand what this is. It's a top 25 SEC
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: team on the road, a place that's going to be
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: tough to play, a place you haven't played well.
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  Speaker 2: The last couple times that you've been there.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And then also, there's some familiar faces over there, too,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: with Joe Sloan and Nick Anderson, Lance Hurd. So, I mean,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot in front of you if
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: you're an LSU player to make sure that you respect
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: your opponent, which, again, they've done every single time so
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: far this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that Kentucky winning at Texas A
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: & M at South Carolina, I think that is... a
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: blessing for this LSU team because it makes you, it
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: forces you to put some respect on that name because
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: they've earned it. They've gone out there and it doesn't matter.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: We showed you the stats earlier where they rank nationally
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and all the different categories on offense and defense. It's
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: not anywhere close to the production LSU's had, but they
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: went on the scoreboard and they can continue to fight,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: but they are, there is flaws on their team. That
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: can be exploited. Now, you have to be disciplined. Blake
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Baker and his staff, they have to make sure their
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: safeties that are coming down and their linebackers play extremely disciplined.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: They have to play. They cannot take the cheese, if
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you will. They cannot take the eye candy. They got
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to know that people are going to be going left
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and right. And if everybody goes left, that means something's
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: coming right. If everything goes right, that means something's going left.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: So you have to, they're going to show you something.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Look right here, look at my hand, look at my
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: hand while I try to do something else. And that's
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: how they are trying to overcome, you know, a little
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: bit more deficiency and talent from top to bottom. They're
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: playing a lot of tight ends. On the offensive side
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of the ball for LSU, Sam, this is one thing
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that you've struggled with consistently all season long. A little
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: bit better the last week or two. Run the ball,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: not yourself. RPOs, hand the ball off. And sometimes I
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: don't even care if it's a dirty look. I don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: even care if there's a safety that comes down late
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and makes the count wrong. Run the ball, their defensive line. Now,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: of course, they're in the SEC. They can make plays,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but more often than not, they cannot get off blocks.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Run the ball. A four-yard run on first down is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a good play. but I think more often than not
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: this weekend, unless they're just given extremely dirty looks in
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the box, you're going to see more six yards run
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: than four yard runs. Um, they cannot stop the run
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: if you do it on normal down and distance runs. Um,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: so don't throw the RPOs. Don't throw it unless it's
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like a gift and they'll give you some gifts. They'll,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: they'll line up and they'll, On RPO looks or regular
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  Speaker 2: normal down and distance, which is like a first and
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: 10 or a second and five to like six to eight,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: something like that. Those are normal down and distance plays.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: You line up in a normal formation. They'll give you
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: a hitch route to the field, but they'll also know
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: they're giving it to you and they'll be ready to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: collapse down on it. Run the ball. Cause you're, it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: going to be, you're going to want to throw it
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: sometimes on an RPO, but I'm telling you, if you
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: consistently can run the ball on first down, You're going
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to run them out of the stadium by the second half.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And that's what– and I say that. I don't say
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: that because, like, I just think we're so much better. Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Texas A & M and South Carolina. South Carolina was
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: up 17-0 at the end of the first quarter. And
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: they stopped. They just, like– their coaches pooed down their leg. Yeah. Sorry.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: It happened. It's true. Marcel played like trash against them
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: at times. Fourth and one, rolling out, throws it in
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the dirt. Yeah. That was a pick. I think they
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: were up 7-0. And he throws a pick right to it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It's just they, they, the coaches blew it over thinking themselves.
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  Speaker 2: They could have run them out of the stadium. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We will step away. Going to wrap up our number two.
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  Speaker 4: Real quick, let's go across the SEC, look at some
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: of the games in conference this weekend. As we try to,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: at this point, figure out how it's going to shape up.
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  Speaker 4: There's been a lot of upsets. There's been a lot
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: of teams that were like, yep, they're going to win
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that puppy running away, and they get housed. Looking at you,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss, against Florida. Looking at you, Florida, against Missouri.
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  Speaker 4: So we don't really know. It's, as we said yesterday,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: kind of NFL-like from week to week. as we get
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: closer and closer to college football being professional football. In Como,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Missouri and Texas A & M, Missouri a three-and-a-half point favorite.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: In Gainesville, Florida and South Carolina, Florida a 12-and-a-half point favorite.
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  Speaker 4: In Dallas, Texas, in the Cotton Bowl, Red River, it
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: is Texas and Oklahoma, Texas a seven-and-a-half point favorite.
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  Speaker 2: In Nashville, it is number nine, Ole Miss.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: In Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, a 10-point favorite. In Fayetteville, Arkansas,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Arkansas hosting number 15, Tennessee. Tennessee, 13-and-a-half-point favorite. In Lexington, obviously,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: LSU and Kentucky. LSU, an eight-and-a-half-point favorite. And then the
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: game of the week in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, number two, Georgia,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: number six, Alabama.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Alabama, a one-and-a-half-point favorite. Silver under on that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: 52 and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Pay him at home, one and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good line. Good line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's only three teams in the SEC where
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Texas has got the best resume, but they're
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: not playing great. Like, it doesn't look pretty. Georgia's dominating.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: They haven't really played anybody. You can kind of say
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the same for Alabama. Those are the three teams I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: look at right now. I'm like, okay, who's in the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: head of the pack of those three? And, I mean,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we might find out this weekend.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Georgia-Alabama is obviously the game of the week. Interesting ones.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You never quite know in Red River how that's going
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: to play out. That one stuck out. Oklahoma's considered the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: home team. When you were reading the lines, that one
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: stuck out to me. Just because Oklahoma's. You know the
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: total on that game? 38.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: 40.
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: 39.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Is it? Texas. 20-17 versus Tennessee. They beat.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: UTSA.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: 30-6.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: They beat Ohio State by one. They're playing close games.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: That 7.5 stuck out to me when you first said it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, yeah, Texas number one. Oklahoma's been poo.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: That's the one. Then I think about it. Rivalry. They're
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: not blowing anybody out. Oklahoma's not great.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: The game's always... Yeah, I know.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: This is where this is his Heisman moment. This week.
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: This is where he turns it around.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: This is where he turns it around. My preseason prediction
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is finally going to come true this weekend. He might
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: throw for 800. It's a Red.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: River record, I believe.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss minus 10 at Vanderbilt. Ole Miss off a
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  Speaker 2: bye week.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Getting blown out. They're trying to get the bad taste
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: out of their mouth.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know anything about Vanderbilt.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, that win they had against NC State.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: That's all I know about it. That's all I know
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: about Vanderbilt.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: They played someone tight. Was it Georgia they played? For
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a while. For a while. Yeah. They pulled away 38-14,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: but for a while.
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: I was like, let me check in on Athens.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an ugly game against Auburn.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: The Auburn game, they fell behind. I think it was
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: double digits early. Roundup coming back, making that a game
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: as well. So, like, they're hanging tough.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Hanging tough.
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: And wasn't their starting quarterback out versus Georgia?
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: He was, Jerry Curtis. Yep, he's going to be back
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: for this one. Still, though, 10 points. Ole Miss, Tay-Tay's
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: point is going to want something to prove. They're going
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: to try to score a bunch of points. They're going
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: to try to get a get-back game. They win by
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: more than that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that. Of the ones
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: we've talked about, Ole Miss minus 10 is where my
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: money would go as I stand here right now. Not
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame playing? See, I didn't even yell at y'all. See,
• 45:56
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