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He Stole Her House, Her Church Money - And Kept a Log · Why Humans Lie

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  Speaker 1: On the morning of January ninth, two thousand nineteen, a
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  Speaker 1: retired dental hygienist named Nancy Lewis walked into a bank
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  Speaker 1: in Milhaven, Ohio carrying a certified male envelope. She needed
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  Speaker 1: to deposit a check for two hundred fourteen thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: held in trust for her church's building fund, Marcus. While
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  Speaker 1: the teller at the downtown Keystone Federal branch typed in
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  Speaker 1: the account number and then stopped. The account had been
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  Speaker 1: closed eleven days earlier. Every dollar was gone across town.
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  Speaker 1: At that same moment, a thirty eight year old accountant
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  Speaker 1: named Connie Price sat in the waiting room of a
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  Speaker 1: family court building. She had received a legal notice she
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  Speaker 1: barely understood, summoning her to a hearing she had not
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  Speaker 1: been told about. She did not yet know that the
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  Speaker 1: man she had married eleven months before had filed for
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  Speaker 1: divorce without telling her. She did not know he had
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  Speaker 1: listed her inherited house as a marital asset, and she
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  Speaker 1: did not know that the two hundred fourteen thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Lewis was trying to deposit had passed through Connie's
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  Speaker 1: own volunteer position to get there. What this case reveals
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  Speaker 1: is not just a theft. It is a precise, patient
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  Speaker 1: dismantling of one woman's reality, piece by piece, carried out
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  Speaker 1: by a man who had done it before, and kept
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  Speaker 1: a written log of how long each stage was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to take. To understand what Gordon Snyder took, it helps
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  Speaker 1: to understand what Connie Price had built. She grew up
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus, the younger of two children, close to her
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  Speaker 1: brother Kevin and closer still to her mother. By her
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  Speaker 1: late thirties, she had made a quiet life in Millhaven
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  Speaker 1: that suited her exactly. She worked as an accountant at
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  Speaker 1: Harwick Associates, a commercial property management firm, where her reputation
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  Speaker 1: rested on precision and reliability. Her office manager, Pete Vargo,
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  Speaker 1: would later describe her as someone who double checked figures,
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  Speaker 1: not because she distrusted the system, but because she believed
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  Speaker 1: accuracy was a form of respect for other people's money.
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  Speaker 1: Outside of work, Connie volunteered as treasurer at Crestwood Community Church.
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  Speaker 1: The role fit her the same way her job did.
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  Speaker 1: Someone needed to be trusted with the numbers. She was
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  Speaker 1: the obvious person. Her social world was small but solid,
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  Speaker 1: Her closest friend was a woman named pam Ocho, who
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  Speaker 1: knew Connie well enough to notice when something felt off.
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  Speaker 1: Connie called her mother every Sunday. She had a regular
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  Speaker 1: table at Beckett's on Vine Street, a corner booth by
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  Speaker 1: the front window, where the staff knew her order before
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  Speaker 1: she sat down. Then, in the spring of twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: Connie's mother died of a stroke. She inherited the house
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  Speaker 1: on Elm Crest Drive where she had grown up. Roughly
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  Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars in savings and the kind of quiet
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  Speaker 1: that follows a loss when there is no immediate crisis
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  Speaker 1: to me. She kept going to work, She kept volunteering
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  Speaker 1: at Crestwood. She kept her booth at Beckett's. From the outside,
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  Speaker 1: her life looked unchanged. From the inside, she was navigating
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  Speaker 1: the particular loneliness of grief without a dramatic reason to
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  Speaker 1: ask for help. That was the landscape when Gordon Snyder
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  Speaker 1: began watching, he was forty four years old in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: He used his legal name with Connie, which investigators would
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  Speaker 1: later note was unusual for him. His two previous operations
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  Speaker 1: had run under aliases Glen Currell in Evansville, Indiana, in
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  Speaker 1: twenty ten, and Grant Sellers in Lexington, Kentucky, in twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: He chose his real name this time because he believed
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  Speaker 1: the paper trail in Ohio was cold enough that calculation
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  Speaker 1: was eventually wrong, but it held for long enough. He
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  Speaker 1: had identified Beckett's as a location before he ever sat
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  Speaker 1: down cross from Connie. According to testimony gathered during the investigation,
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  Speaker 1: Gordon had visited the diner on three consecutive Tuesdays in
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  Speaker 1: October twenty seventeen, sitting near the door observing the regulars.
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  Speaker 1: He was not browsing the menu. He was mapping a routine.
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  Speaker 1: When he finally introduced himself, he was charming and unhurried.
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  Speaker 1: He asked questions he remembered answers. He described himself as
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  Speaker 1: a facility's consultant running a firm called Meridian Property Solutions.
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  Speaker 1: He carried architectural blueprints rolled to a specific diameter under
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  Speaker 1: his arm. Investigators would later note, drawing on Gordon's own
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  Speaker 1: post conviction interview, that he had learned by experience that
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  Speaker 1: blueprints rolled to that exact size made people assume professional
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  Speaker 1: competence in the man holding them. He never needed to
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  Speaker 1: explain them. People simply concluded. Over the following eight weeks,
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  Speaker 1: he moved through what the investigation would later document as
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  Speaker 1: a systematic approach. He introduced small gestures of care at
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  Speaker 1: precise intervals. He was attentive in ways that felt personal
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  Speaker 1: rather than performed. Connie's friend Pam Ochoa, met him in
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  Speaker 1: December of twenty seventeen and felt uneasy. She said so
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  Speaker 1: to Connie. Gordon had anticipated that kind of friction. When
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  Speaker 1: Connie relayed Pam's concern, he responded not with defensiveness, but
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  Speaker 1: with sorrow. He said it was painful to feel judged
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  Speaker 1: before people knew him. He expressed gentle doubt about whether
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  Speaker 1: Pam truly had Connie's best interests in mind. It was
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  Speaker 1: a single, careful sentence. Connie did not stop seeing Pam,
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  Speaker 1: but the weight of Pam's opinion shifted. The concern that
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  Speaker 1: might have slowed everything down was quietly reclassified as a
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  Speaker 1: personality conflict rather than a warning. By February of twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: Gordon and Connie were married at Crestwood Community Church. Fourteen
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  Speaker 1: people attended. Kevin Price flew in from Columbus and watched
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  Speaker 1: his new brother in law shake hands and tell stories.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin would later tell investigators that Gordon seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: performing presents rather than inhabiting it. At the time, Kevin
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  Speaker 1: said nothing. He assumed the feeling was his own discomfort
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  Speaker 1: with change. The paperwork that followed the wedding would take
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  Speaker 1: nearly a year to fully unwind. Three months after the wedding,
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  Speaker 1: Gordon suggested they simplify their finances. He used that word simplify.
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  Speaker 1: Connie transferred her savings into a joint account shortly after
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  Speaker 1: Gordon's name was added to the account holding her inheritance
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  Speaker 1: from her mother, the account that carried the last thing
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  Speaker 1: her mother had left her. Gordon did not rush any
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  Speaker 1: of it. Each step arrived at a moment when the
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  Speaker 1: previous one had already settled into ordinary life. By the
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  Speaker 1: middle of twenty eighteen, Gordon had positioned himself as the
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  Speaker 1: informal liaison between Crestwood's Building Fund committee and the bank.
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  Speaker 1: He was not a signatory, he did not need to be.
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  Speaker 1: He attended meetings, He knew the banker's by name. He
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  Speaker 1: understood the fund's structure in the way that some one
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  Speaker 1: helpful always seems to understand everything. Eventually, the building Fund
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  Speaker 1: held two hundred fourteen thousand dollars. It was money the
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  Speaker 1: congregation had saved over years, designated for a future renovation.
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  Speaker 1: Gordon knew the balance, he knew the account number, He
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  Speaker 1: knew the schedule of deposits. In November of two thousand eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: a colleague of Connie's named Susan Feller noticed something she
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  Speaker 1: was cross referencing vender documentation at Harwick Associates and ran
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  Speaker 1: a search on Meridian Property Solutions, the firm Gordon claimed
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  Speaker 1: to run. The search returned nothing, no registration, no license,
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  Speaker 1: and no filing in Indiana. Susan mentioned it to Pete Vargo,
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  Speaker 1: the office manager. Pete ran his own check, same result.
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  Speaker 1: When the discrepancy reached Connie, Gordon had an answer. He
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  Speaker 1: said he operated under a parent LLC Clearbridge Consulting Group.
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  Speaker 1: He said the paperwork was structured for tax purposes. He
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  Speaker 1: said the detail was boring and technical, and he was
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  Speaker 1: sorry she'd been pulled into it. Connie let it pass.
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  Speaker 1: That same month, a letter arrived at the house on
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  Speaker 1: Elm Crest Drive. It was from a storage facility in
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  Speaker 1: Terre Haute, Indiana, a renewal notice for a unit. Gordon
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  Speaker 1: was maintaining. He told Connie they were old business records
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  Speaker 1: boxes from before they met. She did not ask to
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  Speaker 1: see them. In December of twenty eighteen, Gordon visited Harwick
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  Speaker 1: Associates three times without Connie. Pete Vargo would testify later
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  Speaker 1: that the second visit lasted approximately twenty two minutes. During
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  Speaker 1: that visit, Gordon spent time near Connie's desk. Her computer
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  Speaker 1: was unlocked, her banking credentials were saved in the browser.
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  Speaker 1: He did not touch her keyboard. He did not need too.
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  Speaker 1: He had seen enough. On December twenty ninth, twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: the Crestwood Building Fund was closed. Two hundred and fourteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars moved in two wire transfers to a credit
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  Speaker 1: union in Terre Hate, Indiana, the same city as the
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  Speaker 1: storage unit, the same city as the PO box registered
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  Speaker 1: to a name investigators would only identify weeks later. On
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  Speaker 1: January fifth, of twenty nineteen, Gordon filed for divorce without
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  Speaker 1: telling Connie. The petition listed the house on Elm Crest
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  Speaker 1: Drive as a marital asset. It also referenced a joint
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  Speaker 1: investment account that Connie had never seen and had never signed.
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  Speaker 1: Connie learned about the divorce filing, the way she learned
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  Speaker 1: about almost everything in those two weeks after the fact,
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  Speaker 1: from a document she did not understand, in a room
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  Speaker 1: she had not expected to enter. On January ninth, she
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  Speaker 1: was sitting in the waiting area of a family court
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  Speaker 1: building in Milhaven when Nancy Lewis walked into a bank
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  Speaker 1: branch across town. Nancy Lewis was fifty three years old,
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  Speaker 1: a retired dental hygienist, and the volunteer administrator who managed
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  Speaker 1: Crestwood's banking paperwork. She had gone to Keystone Federal Bank
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  Speaker 1: that morning to deposit a certified male envelope. The teller
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  Speaker 1: who helped her was Marcus Wild. When Marcus pulled up
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  Speaker 1: the account number, the account was not inactive or frozen.
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  Speaker 1: It was closed. It did not exist. Marcus walked Nancy
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  Speaker 1: to the branch manager's office and closed the door. That
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  Speaker 1: is the moment the two tracks of Gordon's operation collided.
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  Speaker 1: The Church discovering the account gone, Connie sitting in a
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  Speaker 1: court house hallway with no idea why she was there.
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  Speaker 1: Neither woman knew about the other's morning. Neither woman knew
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  Speaker 1: yet that both mornings were the same. Plan. There is
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  Speaker 1: something in the precision of that timing that is difficult
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  Speaker 1: to sit with. Gordon filed the divorce petition on January fifth,
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  Speaker 1: the wire transfers had cleared on December twenty ninth. He
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  Speaker 1: had given himself a week's buffer. By the time Connie
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  Speaker 1: was served, the money was already in terre haute. By
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  Speaker 1: the time Nancy found the empty account, Gordon was already
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  Speaker 1: preparing to leave Milhaven entirely. Kevin Price flew in from
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  Speaker 1: Columbus the following day. He made two calls. The first
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  Speaker 1: was to a licensed investigator in Columbus named Carol Turner,
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  Speaker 1: who specialized in financial fraud cases with a domestic component.
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  Speaker 1: The second call was to Connie. She did not answer.
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  Speaker 1: She was reading the divorce petition for the third time,
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  Speaker 1: trying to find the investment account. Carol Turner arrived in
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  Speaker 1: Milhaven on January twelfth. She had three things, the wire
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  Speaker 1: transfer records, Pete Vargo's account of the December office visits,
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  Speaker 1: and a name, Gordon Snyder. She ran it. What Carol
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  Speaker 1: Turner found when she ran Gordon Snyder's name was not
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  Speaker 1: what anyone expected. The expectation reasonable given everything, was that
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  Speaker 1: Gordon Snyder would be a ghost, a constructed identity layered
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  Speaker 1: over nothing, a name borrowed from a document and discarded
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  Speaker 1: when convenient. That was the assumption he had fabricated. Affirmed
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  Speaker 1: he had fabricated an LLC. He had fabricated the expertise
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  Speaker 1: that the rolled blueprints were meant to signal. It followed
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  Speaker 1: logically that the name was fabricated to it was not.
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  Speaker 1: Gordon Snyder was his legal name. He had used it
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  Speaker 1: with Connie because he had calculated that his prior history
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio was cold enough not to surface quickly. That
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  Speaker 1: calculation was the first thing Carol Turner dismantled. She found
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  Speaker 1: two prior cases. Evansville, Indiana, twenty ten. A man named
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  Speaker 1: Glen Cerell had married a hospital administrator named Wanda Estase.
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  Speaker 1: She was forty one. She managed a community organization's account.
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  Speaker 1: Glen Sorel disappeared after sixty thousand dollars moved out of
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  Speaker 1: that account. Glen Sorel was never found because Glen Sorel
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  Speaker 1: did not exist. Lexington, Kentucky, two thousand thirteen. A man
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  Speaker 1: named Grant Sellers had married a bookkeeper named Eileen Marsh.
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  Speaker 1: The church endowment fund she managed was emptied by wire transfer.
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  Speaker 1: Grant sellers disappeared the same way, different names, different cities,
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  Speaker 1: different women. The wire transfers in all three cases resolved
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  Speaker 1: to accounts in Terra Hate, Indiana, the same city. The
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  Speaker 1: same infrastructure carried intact from one identity to the next.
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  Speaker 1: The head fake had been built into Gordon's method from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. Every investigator who looked at any single case
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  Speaker 1: saw a domestic fraud, a husband who stole from his
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  Speaker 1: wife and ran. The assumption pointed toward a man who
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  Speaker 1: was opportunistic, reactive, improvising. What Carol Turner's pattern analysis revealed
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  Speaker 1: was the opposite. The rolled blueprints, the eight week approach sequence,
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  Speaker 1: the triangulation of a close friend, the marriage as a
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  Speaker 1: mechanism for account access, the filing of divorce paperwork, time
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  Speaker 1: to the wire transfers clearing. None of it was improvised.
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  Speaker 1: All of it was a system. Gordon Snyder was arrested
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  Speaker 1: on January twenty eighth, twenty nineteen, at a motel outside Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: In his storage unit in Tera Hate, investigators found three
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  Speaker 1: complete sets of identity documents in three different names. They
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  Speaker 1: found a portable hard drive containing scanned financial records, from
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  Speaker 1: each victim, and they found a handwritten ledger. Column headers
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  Speaker 1: recorded the institution, the type of account, the estimated balance,
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  Speaker 1: and a timeline broken into phases from initial approach through extraction.
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  Speaker 1: He called it in his own handwriting a target acquisition log.
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  Speaker 1: He had written it down the whole system in his
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  Speaker 1: own hand. The trial opened in the autumn of two
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  Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. The jury deliberated for nine hours. Nine hours
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  Speaker 1: is not a long deliberation for a case this complex,
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  Speaker 1: but the evidence Carol Turner had assembled left very little
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  Speaker 1: room for alternative interpretation. The wire transfer records Pete Vargo's
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  Speaker 1: testimony about three visits to Harwick Associates in December, one
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  Speaker 1: of them lasting twenty two minutes near the desk where
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  Speaker 1: Connie stored her banking credentials. The target acquisition log written
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  Speaker 1: in Gordon's own hand, with column headers for institution, account type,
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  Speaker 1: estimated balance, and extraction timeline. The jury convicted on every count.
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  Speaker 1: The judge sentenced Gordon Snyder to eleven years. His defense
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  Speaker 1: team filed two appeals. The first failed, the second was
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  Speaker 1: denied in the spring of twenty twenty. Three months after
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  Speaker 1: that denial, Gordon agreed to a recorded interview with a journalist.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators who reviewed the transcript described it as professional pride
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  Speaker 1: poorly disguised as confession. He spoke about the cases with
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  Speaker 1: the measured tone of someone reviewing a project portfolio. He
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  Speaker 1: confirmed Wanda Estes in Evansville twenty ten. He confirmed Eileen
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  Speaker 1: Marsh in Lexington twenty thirteen. He did not express remorse,
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  Speaker 1: he explained in that interview. He also explained the blueprints,
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  Speaker 1: the roled architectural drawings he carried to Beckett's on Vine Street,
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  Speaker 1: to the church building committee meetings, to Harwick associates. He
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  Speaker 1: said he had discovered through repetition that blueprints rolled to
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  Speaker 1: a specific diameter caused people to assume competence in the
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  Speaker 1: man holding them, not knowledge of a specific project, not
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  Speaker 1: any particular credential, just the physical object held a certain
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  Speaker 1: way at the right diameter. He had refined the diameter,
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  Speaker 1: he said it with precision. There is something in that
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  Speaker 1: detail that is difficult to absorb. Not the fraud, not
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  Speaker 1: the ledger, not the three marriages, the diameter of the roll.
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  Speaker 1: Gordon had used his legal name with Connie because he
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  Speaker 1: calculated that the Ohio trail was cold enough. Wanda Estes
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  Speaker 1: had reported Glen Sorm Eileen Marsh had reported grant sellers,
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  Speaker 1: neither name connected to Gordon Snyder. In any database a
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  Speaker 1: standard check would surface. He had moved through three identities
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  Speaker 1: and believed the fourth could be his own. That calculation,
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  Speaker 1: more than anything else in the file, shows how confident
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  Speaker 1: the system had made him. Connie Price recovered the house
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  Speaker 1: on Elm Crest Drive. The court ordered partial restitution as
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  Speaker 1: part of the sentence. It has been paid in fragments
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  Speaker 1: irregularly across the years since conviction. The two hundred fourteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars taken from Kresstwood Community Church's building fund has
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  Speaker 1: not been fully returned. The church's building project, paused in
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  Speaker 1: January of twenty nineteen, remained incomplete as of the last
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  Speaker 1: public record available. Connie spent the six months following the
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  Speaker 1: arrest working with a forensic accountant to document everything that
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  Speaker 1: had been taken. That work was methodical and exhausting. It
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  Speaker 1: required her to reconstruct, transaction by transaction, the financial life
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  Speaker 1: she had believed she shared with someone. What she found,
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  Speaker 1: the accountant later noted in filings, was not a marriage
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  Speaker 1: with financial problems. It was a financial operation with a
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  Speaker 1: marriage built around it. The ledger bothers people who read
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  Speaker 1: about this case, not because it is the worst thing
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  Speaker 1: Gordon Snyder did, but because of what it makes undeniable.
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  Speaker 1: The column for estimated balance was filled in before he
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  Speaker 1: ever sat down at Connie's table at Beckett's, Before the
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  Speaker 1: first Tuesday, he spent watching her order. Before any conversation,
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  Speaker 1: any gesture of grief shared over her mother, any of
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  Speaker 1: the eight weeks that felt to Connie like falling in love,
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  Speaker 1: he had already written the number down. He had estimated
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  Speaker 1: what she was worth to the operation and entered it
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  Speaker 1: in a log he kept across multiple victims and multiple years.
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  Speaker 1: Connie Price was thirty eight years old in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: She was a careful, competent woman who had done everything
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  Speaker 1: she was supposed to do. She had built a financial life,
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  Speaker 1: She had inherited a house. She had served her community
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  Speaker 1: faithfully enough that the church trusted her with its building fund.
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  Speaker 1: After her mother died, she found herself alone in a
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  Speaker 1: quieter way than before. Gordon Snyder found that too. He
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  Speaker 1: found it in October of two thoy seventeen, at a
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  Speaker 1: corner table by a window, three tuesdays into his approach.
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  Speaker 1: Sequence there is something that still does not fully resolve,
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  Speaker 1: even with the conviction and the ledger and the recorded confession.
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  Speaker 1: It is not a question about what Gordon did or how.
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  Speaker 1: It is a question about what it costs to live
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  Speaker 1: through that level of constructed intimacy and come out the
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  Speaker 1: other side still willing to trust anything. Connie has not
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  Speaker 1: spoken publicly about that. The record ends with the house
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  Speaker 1: returned and the restitution trickling it. What this case documented
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  Speaker 1: across three states and three women and merely a decade,
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  Speaker 1: is that the system Gordon built was not primarily financial.
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  Speaker 1: The finances were the extraction mechanism. The system was the
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  Speaker 1: dismantling of a person's ability to perceive reality accurately. Every
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  Speaker 1: element the role blue prints, the love bombing, the triangulation
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  Speaker 1: of pam Ochoa, the Church committee roll, the divorce filing
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  Speaker 1: timed to the wire transfers was designed to manage one
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  Speaker 1: woman's perception of what was true until the money was
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  Speaker 1: gone and he was already somewhere else. Carol Turner's pattern
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  Speaker 1: analysis cracked the case not because she found new evidence.
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  Speaker 1: She cracked it because she was the first person to
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  Speaker 1: look at all three women at the same time. The
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  Speaker 1: investigators in Evansville, the investigators in Lexington, and the people
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  Speaker 1: around Connie and Milhaven had all been looking at domestic fraud,
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  Speaker 1: one case at a time. Turner looked at the infrastructure,
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  Speaker 1: the terrehote accounts, the fixed extraction address that traveled intact
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  Speaker 1: under three different names, the system, not the man. Connie
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  Speaker 1: Price kept the house on elm Crest Drive. It had
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  Speaker 1: been her mother's house. Gordon had listed it as a
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  Speaker 1: marital asset in the divorce filing he submitted without telling her.
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  Speaker 1: A court later removed his name from the deed. The
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  Speaker 1: house was always hers, She just had to prove it.
• 21:53
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