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Do I Want to Know What You're Doing? (S1 E20, “P.S. I Lo…”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in, Kiss you. I Am all in
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson here and this is the I Am All
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  Speaker 1: In Podcast with I Heart Radio and one eleven Productions.
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  Speaker 1: And what a show we have for you, What an
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  Speaker 1: episode we have for you today. What a show? What
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  Speaker 1: a show? Um. You know we talked about this last week.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Emily's choice of poster, asking Roy what
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  Speaker 1: kind of post or she wants in her new bedroom
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  Speaker 1: at the Gilmore House. Whether it's the Backside Boys she
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  Speaker 1: meant the Backstreet Boys or in Sync or nine degrees
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  Speaker 1: And we happen to have and and you know, before
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  Speaker 1: I say anything, we got such a response from from
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  Speaker 1: the fans about this, and the the chatter is deafening.
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  Speaker 1: My god, did you respond about this? So we know
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  Speaker 1: we have a demographic that is well aware of boy bands. UM,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna admit to you right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: not my jam very limited knowledge, So don't hate on
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  Speaker 1: me because of that. But I did listen to one
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  Speaker 1: of the hit songs from the our guest today. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have ninety eight degrees on today. Uh, we have
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  Speaker 1: a Mr Jeff Timmins and a Mr Drew Lasha from
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight Degrees. And I'm excited to talk to him
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  Speaker 1: because I have I have watched their video and I
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  Speaker 1: have some some questions about how terrified they must have
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  Speaker 1: been doing one particular scene from that video. Um, then
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  Speaker 1: they probably weren't, but I would have been. So here
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  Speaker 1: they are. Let's bring in Jeff and Drew and let's
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  Speaker 1: get this this party started. Jeff Timmins, I knew man.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing, buddy? Pretty good? But you look
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  Speaker 1: exactly you look exactly the same as in the video. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I yeah, I have the I have the little slider
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  Speaker 1: that says, make myself look better, that little image. It
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  Speaker 1: might be fooling you a little. And there's Drew. Hey, Drew,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Thanks for joining us, and
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  Speaker 1: pleasure to have you guys on. I. Um, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little older than you guys, so I'm like a late
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  Speaker 1: sixties seventies rocker kind of dude. Uh. So I watched
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  Speaker 1: your I watched your video. I want what is it
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  Speaker 1: because of you or because you had a big song
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  Speaker 1: back in the day. I guess it was. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: I watched the video um, and I don't. If I
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  Speaker 1: was a member of in Sync at that time and
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  Speaker 1: they said, guess what, We're gonna shoot you on the beach,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot you in the city, We're gonna shoot
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  Speaker 1: you on cable cars, and then we're taking at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the Golden Gate bridge, I would have been like, na, no,
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  Speaker 1: not in that you're blowing your boy bands. Yes, because
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  Speaker 1: it was in synct That's why he wouldn't have done it.
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  Speaker 1: If he was in ninety degrees, he would have done it.
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  Speaker 1: Did I say in saying I am so see I
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  Speaker 1: told you I am I am not qualified to conduct
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  Speaker 1: this interview. Just fire me right now. I am so sorry. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we look Scott and I was petrified on top of
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  Speaker 1: that Golden Those shots were terrifying. They were terrifying looking.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I I experienced vertigo from time to time.
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  Speaker 1: I I got a little crazy watching that stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: you must have been up there all day waiting for
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  Speaker 1: the helicopter to fly over because it wasn't a drone shot.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have drones back then. I mean, you must
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  Speaker 1: have been up there all day. How long were you
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  Speaker 1: up at the top of the Golden Gate bridge waiting
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  Speaker 1: for that shot to happen. It was definitely a couple
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  Speaker 1: of hours. Yeah, it was so windy up there, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was. It had its moments. Getting up there,
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  Speaker 1: I think was probably even scarier than being up How
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  Speaker 1: did how did you? How did you get up there?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, in one of the towers, there's a
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  Speaker 1: tidy elevator that I think it only what we can
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  Speaker 1: only get three or four of us and two of
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  Speaker 1: us at the time, and it goes up really slowly.
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  Speaker 1: So and you're like, it's pretty weird experience. Man, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. And you're and and Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: you're still jacked. Yeah, I'm trying to keep up with
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  Speaker 1: the young bucks. Your lats were huge in the video.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, look at this guy just just hitting the gym.
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  Speaker 1: Look at them knowing he's got a big future ahead him.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to stay in shape. So we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about you came up in the uh you came up
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  Speaker 1: in the in in in the last episode, and the
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  Speaker 1: fans went crazy when we started talking about a little
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  Speaker 1: bit in our recap and we said, we gotta have
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  Speaker 1: these guys on. So Amy got in touch. He knows
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  Speaker 1: you guys, So let me ask you something about this.
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  Speaker 1: This were the rivalries between the boy bands, yel or
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  Speaker 1: something generated by the press, Jeff, go ahead and address
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  Speaker 1: this because a lot of people want to know this.
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  Speaker 1: What's weird about it is it's really interesting. Contrary to
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  Speaker 1: popular belief at the time, I think people thought that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were adversarial towards those groups, but we
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  Speaker 1: had nothing but great experiences in the mutual respect for
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  Speaker 1: those guys because they were going through the same roller
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  Speaker 1: coaster ride that we were. So we've got nothing. If
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  Speaker 1: we had to choose one one group, they both had
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  Speaker 1: so many hits. Both groups have so many cool members
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  Speaker 1: that we're friends and friends with them, close with I
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  Speaker 1: honestly couldn't pick one of the other. True what do
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  Speaker 1: you think I mean? I'm I'm I'm closer with the
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  Speaker 1: guys and then Sync than I am with the guys
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  Speaker 1: and Backstory boys, so I would have to lean towards them.
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  Speaker 1: But I know Jeff is cooler with a j and
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  Speaker 1: the battery, so I think it's you know, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of take them. But they both have
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  Speaker 1: uh they both went diamond on one of their records. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: have sold god knows how many records, So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you go wrong with either of them. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I had to choose between the three, still the best.
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  Speaker 1: I mean everybody knows that. Everybody knows even has the
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  Speaker 1: Jeff still has the poster hanging up behind him. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: Flax and everything we're proud of. So what was that
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  Speaker 1: experience like for you guys? I mean, you start out,
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  Speaker 1: I read a little bit about how um uh Nick,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't Nick that started the band? Was
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  Speaker 1: it you? Jeff who kind of contacted Nick who was
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  Speaker 1: in college and said, listen, what about this thing? You
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  Speaker 1: maybe want to do this? So you guys knew each other.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know Nick and True and Justin at all.
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  Speaker 1: I brom different parts of a while. I actually started
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  Speaker 1: the group some other guys and what to l A.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't there was no social media or YouTube, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had to go to where the action was. We
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  Speaker 1: thought it was in l A, and we drove to
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  Speaker 1: l A and ultimately those guys you know, didn't stick
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  Speaker 1: with it. And you would think in l A you
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  Speaker 1: would be able to find other talents. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to stick with it. I put like ads in these
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  Speaker 1: you know, local magazines and and uh and you know,
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter and all that. I couldn't find audition a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people. And then ultimately I met a guy
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  Speaker 1: who went to school with with these guys in Ohio
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  Speaker 1: and he played me a tape of of a cover
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  Speaker 1: band that Nick was in and I heard his voice
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, man, this guy is incredible, and really
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  Speaker 1: we spoke on the phone, and then you know, he
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  Speaker 1: agreed to come out to l A and joined the group.
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  Speaker 1: And then Justin came out, and Drew came out, and
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  Speaker 1: then we h that's how we got we feel that's
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  Speaker 1: how we formed our group. We formed it that way
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  Speaker 1: in l A. I didn't even know what Nick looked
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  Speaker 1: like at all. I was on the phone. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: are you good? Are you? How'd you? I actually said
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  Speaker 1: how's your look? And he goes, uh, am I good
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  Speaker 1: looking guy? Yeah? I mean how was gonna look? He goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think so, And I was like, good enough, come
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  Speaker 1: on out. And then that's how I hadn't seen him
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  Speaker 1: till the day he arrived in l A. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then we we we went, we went from there.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a it was a great experience and
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  Speaker 1: a very unique one compared to some of the other
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  Speaker 1: bands were compared to. So so it happened pretty quick
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  Speaker 1: for you guys. I mean within a year, didn't you
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  Speaker 1: have a record deal at a pretty big place, a
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  Speaker 1: big record company, And and uh, how aggressive were you
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning getting your work out there and getting
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  Speaker 1: in front of people and getting it heard by the
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  Speaker 1: right people. Didn't you have some kind of oh you
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  Speaker 1: did some kind of a cappella thing backstage at a
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  Speaker 1: at a at a music festival or something or a
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  Speaker 1: concert and that got blasted out live on TV. And
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  Speaker 1: isn't that something that changed the game for you? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was even before I joined the group.
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  Speaker 1: So I joined the group in uh not the Datus
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  Speaker 1: November UM. And they had already they had already snuck
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  Speaker 1: backstage at a Boys de Men concert tried to sing
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  Speaker 1: for him for them. UM. Of course they couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: close to Boys de Men because at that time Boys
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  Speaker 1: de Men was, you know, the biggest thing on on
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  Speaker 1: the planet. Um. But they sang for Montel Jordan's tour
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  Speaker 1: manager who eventually became our manager. UM. And then I
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  Speaker 1: joined in November nineties. Uh, we got signed in Motown.
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  Speaker 1: So for for four white boys from Ohio getting signed
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  Speaker 1: a Motown, it was kind of the uh kind of
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  Speaker 1: the dream. Uh. You know, every group that we grew
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  Speaker 1: up idolizing, whether it was boys that mounted the Temptations,
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  Speaker 1: the Four Tops, Stevie wonder Um, every group that we
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  Speaker 1: loved or solars for that matter, pretty much came from Motown. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: What what a story? So what was it like in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning? I mean, how did it How did it start?
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  Speaker 1: You get signed? Did you go into the studio right away?
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  Speaker 1: Did you start writing your own material? Giving you material?
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  Speaker 1: But were you writing your own material? How? How does that?
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  Speaker 1: How does that work with you guys? In the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a it's kind of a variety
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  Speaker 1: of all the things. We got signed in l A
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  Speaker 1: And the first thing that they said was all right,
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  Speaker 1: now you got to pack up and moved to New York.
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  Speaker 1: So immediately as soon as we got signed, We're like,
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  Speaker 1: what but we just we just rented a new apartment
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  Speaker 1: and this nice two bedroom apartment that the four of
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  Speaker 1: us are in. What so we moved We moved to
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  Speaker 1: New York and then uh, you know, we started we
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  Speaker 1: started recording. I mean we were living in a hotel
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  Speaker 1: right on Times Square. It sucked, um, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: you know we started going into the studio and trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what what our sound was gonna be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this New Degrees Motown sound, um, and it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was the It was a process going back and
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  Speaker 1: forth at the label. They had one idea of what
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  Speaker 1: we should be, where we should live, how we should
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  Speaker 1: look all this stuff, and we had another idea. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So it was kind of finding this this blend between
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  Speaker 1: the two. And as far as music goes, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at that point, you know, everybody was submitting songs. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you had the biggest songwriters in the world
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  Speaker 1: that would just submit songs, whether it's Diane Warren or
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  Speaker 1: Steve Kittner. You know, Max mart was coming along at
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  Speaker 1: that point. Um. Well he's already around but becoming a
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  Speaker 1: household name at that point. Um. And we just found
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  Speaker 1: the best songs that we possibly could I mean, whether
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  Speaker 1: we wrote them or somebody else wrote them. If it
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  Speaker 1: was a good song and we thought we could do
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  Speaker 1: it justice, we would record it. And that's how we
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  Speaker 1: that's how we worked. So you did your so that
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  Speaker 1: all that work went into a debut album or a date,
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  Speaker 1: couple of singles or what there was an album. It
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  Speaker 1: was an album and at that time, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time putting an album together. Now
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: you just you record stuff put you had speed and
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  Speaker 1: you're out and running it with a single and EP
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  Speaker 1: or you know, collection of singles. But with that that
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  Speaker 1: back then it was full length albums. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we've even spent probably a better part about almost a
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  Speaker 1: year recording on you know, oh, you were doing song
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  Speaker 1: after song and again Drew Drew was hit the nail
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  Speaker 1: on the head and how we were trying to refine
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  Speaker 1: our sound and certainly they had a certain idea to
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  Speaker 1: maybe have us lean a little bit more urban and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, um, we came out with Invisible Man.
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  Speaker 1: We thought that was that best embodied what our group
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  Speaker 1: was all about, and that was a big success for us.
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  Speaker 1: But at the time getting our image matching our music,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't quite figure that out until Backstreet and Insinc.
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  Speaker 1: Emerged on TRL and MTV and they're like, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: have our own version of that, so let's actually put
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  Speaker 1: their image out there and uh, let let us kind
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  Speaker 1: of they let us kind of then to true to
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  Speaker 1: ourselves with our imaging and are and we we wanted
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  Speaker 1: our music to be in which direction as well. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about the ramp up to you know, releasing the first
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  Speaker 1: single or teasing the first single, or getting that first
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, the first gig and feeling that excitement
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  Speaker 1: from the fans. Talk about that a little bit. How
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  Speaker 1: what was that like, I mean when we were when
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  Speaker 1: we were first starting, there wasn't there wasn't a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of excitement from the fans. Uh. You know, Motown
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  Speaker 1: booked us on these tours and like Jeff alluded to it,
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  Speaker 1: like that, we they didn't they didn't put out pictures
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  Speaker 1: of us at first. Um. Really they wanted people to
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  Speaker 1: think that we were an R and B group. They
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  Speaker 1: wanted us to think that we were Black Eyes or
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  Speaker 1: you know, so they didn't do that. We got marketed
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  Speaker 1: to urban radio. We would go to clubs that that
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  Speaker 1: lean more urban. So when you know, we walk out
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  Speaker 1: on stage and people are like, what come on? You know,
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  Speaker 1: it took it a little bit of time for for
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  Speaker 1: people to really kind of figure out who we were
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  Speaker 1: and Luckily, we had a fantastic radio department in Motown
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  Speaker 1: who literally just got invisible. Man played and played and
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  Speaker 1: played to the point where, um, you know, you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't hide that we were white for very long.
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  Speaker 1: That's when. That was when Ryan Seacrest and I were
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  Speaker 1: with ninety degrees driving around in a van in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if you guys were that right?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? So Ryan Seacrest was working in radio
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  Speaker 1: back then. This was like, that's right, he was in
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  Speaker 1: a van with ninety degrees and were cruise around. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what we're doing. We had we put
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  Speaker 1: our pictures on the side. We wrapped it pictures so
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  Speaker 1: we could get attention. People didn't know. So we would
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  Speaker 1: go around like you said, and we picked up radio
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  Speaker 1: people show what. We printed up our own spag. We
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  Speaker 1: had our own T shirts. And what's crazy is two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago Ryan Seacrest was with ninety degrees in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like they've stood the test of time,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, I think so interesting about this
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls episode two, You guys keep that's funny. That's
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  Speaker 1: she's got great stories. Um, yeah, so so so it
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  Speaker 1: was really so you were playing a lot of clubs
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  Speaker 1: and and and getting super tight. Were you really tight
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  Speaker 1: when you started or did you really jell through the
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  Speaker 1: live concert experiences? Well, I mean, I think clearly we
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: we were already tight. You know, we we were very
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  Speaker 1: hard working. You know, we're we kind of pride ourselves
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  Speaker 1: on being, you know, a blue collar boy band. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we we put in the work, We work hard, we're
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  Speaker 1: very we're very passionate about what we do, and we
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  Speaker 1: want to put in the time that that represents the
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  Speaker 1: respect that we that we have for what we do. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, we would rehearse hours a day and
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: just get our acapellas sound right and our blend right. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So by the time we hit the road together, we
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  Speaker 1: were already you know, we're our own dysfunctional family, you know,
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  Speaker 1: rolling around and you know, getting on each other's nerves
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  Speaker 1: just like brothers do. Um. You know, so it was, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was a process, but clearly, um, nobody else knows
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  Speaker 1: exactly what we've been through except for the four of us.
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  Speaker 1: So regardless of what happens and how many years go
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  Speaker 1: by or you know, whether we're mad at each other
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  Speaker 1: or not. We have a bond that that nobody else
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  Speaker 1: can really appreciate or relate to. Um, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: we're we're we truly are you know, four brothers? And
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  Speaker 1: tell me about that first time where it was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: we've made it. Was it walking out onto a stage
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  Speaker 1: and there's ten thousand, twenty thousand, thirty thousand people and
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  Speaker 1: you'll look at each other like, good lord, look at this.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's different stages, you know, at different stages
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  Speaker 1: you go and look when you're a type A like
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  Speaker 1: we're all type as we were called. We we never
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  Speaker 1: quite think we've made it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: We were always onto the next thing. But I think
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  Speaker 1: for me, one of the first times was when we
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: actually heard our our first single, Invisible Man, on the
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  Speaker 1: radio and kiss at them, you know, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: big station in l A, the big famous one and
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  Speaker 1: and uh you know we were driving in the al right,
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  Speaker 1: it came on the radio. That's one of them. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: we we performed with Stevie Wonder on the Tonight Show
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  Speaker 1: for the goodness alright, thin going our way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there are so many of them it's really hard to
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  Speaker 1: put pinpoint one of them. I mean, you're grateful for
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  Speaker 1: all of them, and but you know they're they're always
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: a different stages of what you feel like is it
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: is a level of satisfying success. Yeah, what's the biggest
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: audience you're playing in from? What's the biggest ground? I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: mean we've done certain certain radio shows festivals that are
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: a hundred plus thousand people. Um, you know which is
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of awesome and it's like
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: breathtaking to be standing on stage in front of all
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: these people. But then at the same time, you can't
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: really see any of those people. It's hard. It's hard
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to connect to a hundred thousand people. So I mean
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: me personally, I like I like the smaller, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: more intimate uh settings. You know, if you're like a
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: couple of thousand people, to me, like a small theater vibe.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I love that. That's that's where I really uh, that's
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: where I really get inspired. Right, Talk a little bit
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: about this, whether the media uh invented this and fueled
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this or whether it was real this this rivalry between
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the boy bands. To talk a little bit about that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and and do you think it helped focus uh the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: fans attention on all of you collectively. Well, look, well,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you know that we hadn't heard about the term boy
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: band before. So when we started our group, we were
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: inspired by the motown groups for tops and Attempts and
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: you know, classic rock harmonies like you talked about, like
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: My Journey in Boston and the Eagles and and so
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: we wanted to be a vocal group and do wop groups.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So we didn't know what a boy band was until
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: we went over to Sas to Europe and we ran
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: into and Sitco over there, who was working in Backstreet
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Boys was emerging in the US, So we didn't really
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: compare ourselves to those groups at that time. Eventually the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: public did, and obviously there was sort of sort of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: some sort of riff between Backstreet and in st because
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they came from the same camp and same management. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that might have existed there and that's well documented. But
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: with regards to us, we didn't even think we're the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: same kind of group, so we we didn't mind it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And then I think in the beginning, being called a
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: boy band it has sort of a connotation that you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: don't really sing, and you don't sing live, and you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: everything's produced and manufactured. So we didn't like that. But
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: then later, you know, when you're compared to groups like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Drew was saying, they they go Diamond and didn't sell
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: ten million copies of an album, and you're mentioned in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the same breath as these legends. I mean we certainly,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: we certainly didn't mind it at that point. I don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: think m um. And it lasted how long? I mean
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you took a break in what two thousand and three,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure when did we take a bag like
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: two thousand, right at the end of two thousand and one,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so really yeah, so we you know, we did our
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: our last thing before we kind of went in different directions,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: as we did. On September two thousand one in New
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: York we did that Michael Jackson special, uh, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: where we performed with Luther and Usher and it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a really big thing at Madison Square. Then the next
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: day was September eleven, and we were in the midst
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of finishing up the door and everything was so up
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in the air and crazy and scary. We kind of
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just went in our separate directions and then you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: went onto our own lives and really didn't get back
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: together until twelve, So you know, what what seemed to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: be like a short break, and it wasn't anything like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: we we broke up or you know, we had some
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: sort of falling out. We were tired for sure from
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the grind, but it was nothing that you know that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, sort of outside of what happened on September eleven.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: This sort of take took us in different directions and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: then we all had you know, I had a baby
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and was getting married and kid on the way, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody had different things going on. And then
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: eventually we missed it and got back together in twelve
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and we've been back together ever since. But what about
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: what about some kind of nostalgia tours? Have you been
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: doing those? Because I know a lot of bands you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: know that are from this even from the sixties or seventies,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: they're getting booked all over the place because people want
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to hear the music. You know, all of those memories
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: from all of your fan base from you know, ninety
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: five or ninety six to two thousand and one, those
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: memories will be with him for life and they'll come
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: see you forever. Um, So how has that been for
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you in terms of the number of people you're getting
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: at your shows. I mean that's been great. Honestly. Since
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we got back together in two thousand and twelve, we
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: uh we went on an arena tour with New Kids
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: on the Block and Boys the Men, and we pretty
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: much haven't stopped touring since We've done a couple of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: holiday tours. We did another tour called the My two
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: K Tour with oh Town and Dream and Ryan Cabrera,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: which is kind of kind of what you're talking about,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: kind of along that, you know, TRL nostalgia. Um. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: then we've honestly been doing what we call a weekend
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Warrior model now where we've just been going around and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: doing different weekend shows because you know, three of the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: four of us are fathers and have families with kids,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and you know, um, it's important for us to make
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: sure we prioritize our family too, not just literally hit
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the road for eight months at a time and be
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: like he all right, kids, I'll come back after you're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: done with puberty. Uh No. Hey, That's why I think
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: this episode resonated because we're getting just so many comments
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: on social media right now because we talked about in
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the episode, and Scott will explain, Uh, the main character Rory.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Her grandma asked her which posters she wants on the wall,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and she ends up with a nine D degrees poster
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: on the wall. And it plays as well today as
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it did when it aired in two thousand one, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: when you guys were kind of at the height of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it all. And I think that's so interesting. And with
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls the fans, there's this new generation, a new
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: generation new and new fans keep coming and I think
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: that it works just as well with the young new
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: people as it did with my age that saw it
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: back then. So my question for you guys, Sorry Scott,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to interrupt, What does that feel like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to be so integrated in pop culture that you're in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: this show, your posters on the wall, and this show
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: has millions and millions of fans that span over twenty years.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Like I want to know what that feels like to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: be a hurt of that. I mean, it's really an honor.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I mean when when you you know, when you start
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a group like this, you hope and dream for things
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like that, and you know, going in that, the odds
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of of being still in the mix twenty five years later,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and we're going out and you know we can to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: show the other night here in Vegas. Vegas is always
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a scary heart market. There's so much competition. We had
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: four thousand people out there, you know, twenty five years
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: later and before that festival that had twelve thousand and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: four that eight. I mean, we're playing for the same amount,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: if not more numbers now because of the nostalgia play
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: like you said that that that that we relate to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a time in people's lives that was an innocent time
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that you know, most of our fans were young teenagers
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: so and they met a lot of their fans at
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: our show. So there are a lot of different hooks
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that have led us and allowed us to continue to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: live this dream this many years later. So for us,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for I mean, we're honored and it's always great and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: amazing and surreal to see people out there singing the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: words to your songs this many years later, bringing their kids.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Their kids are singing the words of the song signs
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: in the audience. So have you ever had a moment
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: where your own kids are watching something like Gilmore Girls
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and you guys are mentioned and they're like dad, like
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you know something like that? Were my daughter and my
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: wife were watching Gilmore Girls. Now they literally were watching
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it and and the the episode that you're talking about.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: They were streaming the whole thing and they watched it
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and and my daughter literally, I mean, um, her dad.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You know, she doesn't think of me as anything other
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: than that for the most part, and she sees our poster.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think it might be the one the was it
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the fireman poster. We'll have to pull We'll pull a screenshot.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I recognized the poster. It was like, I don't remember
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: which one it was, but she was like, oh my god,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: dad John Gilmore Girls. I was like, yeah, I know.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And for her that was like, no, seriously, you're on
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Gilmore's deal. To her, I was just shooting, yeah, just shooting.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And my son was watching it. He had his friends.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: They and then they pulled it up on YouTube and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: we're just like laughing about it. Watching you. I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: know if that's cool or not, but you know, they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: were watching it. But for me, honestly, the whole Gilmore
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Girl I remember when it happened originally when it first aired,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, our fan base was like, oh my goodness, yes,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: they're all Gilmore Girls. That's awesome. But for me, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that's that's that was what that was twenty years ago. Yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I think it was like April May two thousand one
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: will pull the exact day, but I think so it
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was sort of right before before you guys were saying
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you took a break, So it was right at the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: height of it all and the height of these boy bands.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, my my daughter's fifteen and a half. She
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't even alive when that happened. For her, this is
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: this is the closest she ever gets to seeing like
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: kind of no, I mean not to sound, you know, arrogant,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: but how big we were. I mean, it's it's uh,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if you were big, you were big. You can brag
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: about it. You guys were treat did okay, okay, alright.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It's interesting how many fans are writing in because in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the episode that you I'm sure you remember, it's in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: saying ninety degrees and then Emily Gilmurg calls them the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: backside boys. But we're getting so many fans writing and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: new kids on the block, new kids on the block,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: so they were sort of forgotten a little bit at
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that time because they hadn't sort of had their big
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: come back yet. But I think it's so interesting because
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I do think it plays as well today twenty years later. Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So the original air date of this episode was April
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: two thousand one, twenty years ago. You know, it does
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: answer the question because fans are you know, I was
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: always mystified when I was a teenager why people broke
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: up in great bands and this kind of a thing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And and it's always kids. They have kids, and you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: don't want to be away from your kids. And I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: had a son, and I was on the road a lot,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and I called my wife and I said, I'm coming home.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. I miss him. I don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: want to miss even a moment of his childhood. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: he I mean, he was God at that time, he
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: was three years old. But I didn't want to miss it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to be one
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of those dads. So I get it. I get it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys did the good thing. You're good guys.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: You know you're stuck by your kids. Good for you. Um,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so what's it like now? Tell me what you're doing
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: now and what exciting things you're doing other than you know,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: these tours. Are you still doing your own music. You're
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: doing individual uh solo careers and doing your own stuff too.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I mean we're all we're all working on different individual projects.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, ninety degrees is still together and going strong.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: We uh, we released a single earlier in the summer,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: which is It's what thirty. It's on It's on the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Hot Art to for you on one of the charts,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the Hot A C Chart out. We just got an
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: email about it. So we're somewhat back in the mix.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Du Yeah, so we we just released that, so we're
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: shooting videos for that and we're recording new music. Um,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you know, still touring, so we are. We are still
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: in the thick of it. Yeah, we're nice. Not just
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: steal line from the Backyard Agains but ended that day.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean we're still going strong. I would
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: love to see you guys, I really would, um. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you know, Amy will tell me when you guys are
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: playing l A or something, I'll come see you. I'd
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: love to see you guys performately. I know, Drew, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: hope your kid thinks it's cool that you talked to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Luke from the Gilmore Girl. She she's in her room
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: right now. But if I if I brought her down,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: she'd be like, oh my god, Dad, go get her,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Go get her. It'll be, it'll be fune. Go get her, seriously,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: go get her. We'll wait, all right, you know, seriously,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: go get her. That's fine, it'll be, it'll be. It'll
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: be a wonderful family thing. Go ahead, do it. Hold on,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to Jeff. We'll talk to you. Jeff, you invented,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you invent you started degrees. You're the guy. Well, yes,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I have more way, you're the guy. He's the guy.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I started it trying to you know, look, in college,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I've had no idea what I was doing. I wasn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: even really into music that much. I was always I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: always got pulled into doing music. I can't form a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: really small time. It's all about football, so I want
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to play football, and thinking wasn't cool. But we were
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: at a party and I had been so many different
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: vocal groups and stuff, and we were trying to impress
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: some girls. So it really was very shallow the reason
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I started the group. But then I love I fell
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in love with the music and the business part of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the behind the music and all the inner workings. What
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: what people like you do and how all the different
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: marketing that goes into promotions and just became a nerd
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of the entertainment business in general. Interesting that you say that, Jeff,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: because the one thing I will say about boy bands,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you know, knowing Lamp so well in ages so well,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: is these guys grind like, they work hard. They'll do
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: whatever we need them to do all the time. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they're always doing you know, they always have fifty different
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: things going. And maybe that's just the mentality you have
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to have to be in a group like that. Well, look,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and I think we've all experienced what it's like when
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you don't pay attention to the business part. All three
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: group have their horror stories about you know, look getting
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: robbed and you know, you know the things that most
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: artists can counter at one point or another in their
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: careers with regards to the financial part and all that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So we had to learn learn the business quickly. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you know, for us, you know, we didn't have there
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you go is h what's your name? H? She was
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: doing her homework, so okay, came down. What's your name
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: is Scott? Nice to meet you. How are young? This
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is my oldest. My youngest is eleven, and he's probably
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: bouncing around somewhere too. He hasn't girls yet. We have
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to know if you like Gilmore Girls, are you Luke
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and Lorali forever and always? Are you Team Jess, Team
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Logan or team Dean? I don't know, probably team Jess.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There you go, fast day with family.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Gotta keep keeping in the family. And then literally during
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: all of COVID um, you know, of course, families were
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: bonding and watching different stuff, and I would literally walk
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: into the room and her and my wife would be
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: like laying on the couch together watching just Gilmore Girls.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And then they get mad if somebody went an episode ahead,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and then they have to catch up. So it was
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like the it was the whole, the whole thing. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Young Moore girls help get our family through COVID and quarantine.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So thank you, well, no, thank you my god. I mean,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I was I was just a small part
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of that band, you know, and and it worked out
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for everybody. But yeah, you guys are the absolute best.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff Drew, We can't thank you enough. You guys are
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the best. Always. Yeah that pleasure happy at the end
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of it, go go back to doing homework. But but guys,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: great meeting you love hearing your story. I love talking
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to guys and gals who are the dream and who
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: worked their butts off and and and make it. I mean,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it's just it's it's the most interesting part of of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: life for me. I mean, I don't care what it is.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I love these stories. I love these stories. And congratulations
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to all your success and keep going. People love you,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna come see you. I really want
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to go. You know, I was booked on a personal appearance,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and I thought I was the main gig some Heriss's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: private party, and they you know how that is, they
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: fly you in, right, you guys do that a lot.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So I thought I was the main attraction until uh,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Nick Carter showed up and put on a lot a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: little acoustics set and it's like, you know, I wasn't
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: familiar with the music, but I remembered some of the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: hits he was singing, and I just thought, boy, this
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: guy is really good and he's you know that he's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: got that seasoned and you all have that seasoned professional
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: approach to how to perform, and it's just also great.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So I would love to be a guest if you
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: can manage it okay, next time you, guys, but I'd
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: love to see I'm a huge fan. I write a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: lot of music and I huge fan of performers. So anyway, guys,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time. You've got. Best of luck,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: keep it up. Uh, your your your music is needed
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's it's helping people heal. It
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: just is you're bringing joy to people and that's the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: bottom line, right, So you're in the happiness business and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you're making people very very happy. Thanks again, guys. Hope
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to have you back on again soon. Take care, all right, guys,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Hi guys, thank you, all right, Thanks guys. All right,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Wow that was that was aren't they the best? They're cool? Wow?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That was great. People are definitely we can tell from
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the response because people are going nuts. They're definitely passionate
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: about boy bands in general. But they do have their
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: picks their face, some good singers, some guys that can
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: really sing. You know. It's like that changed music. It
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: changed music, change popular music. Guys that could actually sing.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: All right, everybody, Well, that was a trip down memory
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: lane for y'all. I hope you enjoyed it. I really
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: liked meeting those guys. They you know, such solid guys,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: aren't they? Such smart, driven guys who really know what
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: they're doing and very talented people. Ah, that was great.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: That was great. And Amy and Riley. We have to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: go to one of their shows. We will. Riley was
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: just with them in Vegas. She was literally just with him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: We will. They'll. They've been playing Vegas a bunch, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: they'll do a show in l I want to go there. Also,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: take you, We'll take you? Can you take me? Can you?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Will you get me in? Or will they laugh at
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: me in backstage? We'll take you back because I'm over sixty,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: so it's like, what are you doing here? We'll get
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you a T shirt and all I I auditioned to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: be a drummer and I didn't make it, but I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: still want to compare my respects to the boys. Do
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it al right, everybody, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, alright, everybody,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: We're back and we are ready to discuss ps I love,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: which I did not know what on earth you were
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: talking about last week when you say and we'll break
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: down ps L dot dot dot so we don't know
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: how to I thought my computer was like you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the the internet connection was unstable again and you were
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: going ps about that, and I'm like, what what did
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you say? What did you say? Anyway, you have a question,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: so right off the bat and Riley you chime into.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Because this has befuddled me for like a number of episodes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why Rory didn't just tell her mom
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: at least, but tell everybody what actually happened. Like, it's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: so weird that we've had this weird misunderstanding where everyone's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: so mad at Dean when really, yeah, Dean didn't do anything.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I think there's a measure of shame. She didn't want
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to admit that she couldn't say it back, and she
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: was I think she was just really confused. I mean,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: she's sixteen and all these feelings he's intended. She's obviously
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: very intelligent. You know, she's got that backbone made of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: iron that she inherited from her mother and her grandmother.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: And I just think there's a level of shame that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you don't want to admit that you don't have it together,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and you you sort of choked in the in the moment,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but what didn't you don't really understand the reason why, Yeah, Okay.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So that's a great, great satisfying answer to my question.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And that makes the scene in Rory's bedroom at Emily's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that much more poignant because Laurel I says, this is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: my fault that you felt this um yeah that that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: last speech. It's and and it really, you know, it
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: boils down to, you know, the example that Laurel is
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: setting for her and Rory just like just rakes her
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: over the coals in that walk and talk in front
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of high school like well, you know, you know, my god,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: well you'll just break up and then get back together
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and you'll break up again, and like I don't even
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: want to, like, you know, invest in that. Just let
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: me know when you're like it's in the late innings
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and I'll you know, I'll tune in or something. And
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: she ever give a serious answer, like she calls out
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: lower life for all the pity. Yeah, like enough with
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the bs and just I'm not in the mood right now.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's like it's she's almost like a more mature version,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: uh of her mother, almost. But and stop deflecting and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: stop trying to keep everything light and let's get real here,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: because these are serious issues for her and it's like, hey, mom,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: these your life decisions are impacting me in a very
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: deep way, and I want to talk about it. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I'm confused about it, and I don't understand half of it,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, you know, Max this and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Max that and Dean and you know it's it's it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: tough stuff. And how do you feel if your teacher
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: calls for class? I mean, that was like, oh, this
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: is just so uncomfortable. And and there are the those
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: of you out there that hate this when I talk
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: about acting, but I love talking about acting. So I'm
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: going to talk about acting again, so you may. We will,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we will allow it. I thought it was one of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Alexis's best moment in front of a camera when she
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: had that scene with Scott Cohen with Max and she
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: was finding out. I mean, how wonderfully subtle her work was,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and just like she couldn't believe it, but man, she
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: she was. She was keeping her feelings closed to the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: vest enough that he couldn't see it, but enough that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: we could. So that was great she was. I think
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that's perfectly said she that we all felt uncomfortable. Yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: these kids are good. I mean Jared and and Alexis
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are just they really showed what kind of acting chops
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: they had. That's all I'll say about the acting. I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to piss anybody off. What you have to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: say a little more. You have to say more because
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that scene upsets people, Jared and Lauren in in Doci's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Market because she's up in his face and he was
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: so perfect act and then sort of like leave me alone, lady,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: like your daughter hurt me right, And he's got to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: play that fine line of not getting angry and making
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you know, making everybody turn the channel and with and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: also not playing the victim at the same time, this
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: sort of justifiable intensity. And that's he's he was a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: very fine young actor at eighteen years old. He was
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I mean, imagine, I agree these two
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: are just anyway. That's all I'll say about the acting.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Do you think Lane should have just told Rory right
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: off the bat that because obviously shouldn't pick Dean to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: be her partner. Obviously they got paired. Should she have
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: just told her? Look this blows, but like you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Mr So and So put us together and now I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: got to have Dean at my house because it was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: so brutal when Rory walks in. I think Lane has
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: so much crept to deal with from her own mother
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that she didn't really want to you know, she really
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: didn't want to heap that onto to Rory when she
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: knows she's heartbroken and she knows she's going through a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: hard time. Uh, it would have just been it probably
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: would have just felt like, you know, rubbing salt in
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the wound, and she didn't want to do that, but
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: she had this reality. And there again, there maybe there
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: should have been an explanation as to how they ended
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: up as study partners. I was wondering, like, boy, that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: there's a piece here missing, and maybe that's intentional, because
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: how did she end up with him? Because it would
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: have been easy in one sentence to explain it. They didn't,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So I agree there was some intention quick scene like
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a you know, it's a pot pourri
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever. They picked the scene part or whatever. They
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: were paired right right, or they happened to share the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: same passion for a certain area of biology and I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: don't know, frog digestive systems or something which would have
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: made that joke work a little better. At the dinner table,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: which and it was still good. There's so many heavy
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: things happening because you haven't even dealt with yet. That
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Rory after she has the big fight, tells no one
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and just gets in a cab and goes to her grandparents.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And I think, wow, that said a lot that she's
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that close with them. Now. She didn't go to Lane,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: she didn't go to Suki, she didn't go she went
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to her grandparents. Well, listen, I remember talking about this
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, about how inappropriate the Max Laurel I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: think was, And I knew the chickens would have come
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: home to roost at some point, and there they did
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: in that episode. Uh. And I hate to say I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: told you so, but I told you so. And and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's there's an emotional logic that makes this
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: show so great because you predict what's going to happen
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: without it really seeing it coming. Almost. I mean, it's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: it's like, when is it going I feel it should happen,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it could happen, but I don't know when it's going
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to happen. It doesn't happen in an obvious way, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it happens down the line, and there it was, there was,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: there was the blow up. It's like, you know, people
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: sort of not being open and not communicating and not
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: trusting each other enough and not telling people stuff when
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: they should. And that's those seeds were planted in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: very beginning of the show. Like that that Emily and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Richard welcomed her right in that made me you know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: they really, they really, she is their top priority. They'll
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: cancel their plans. They don't care that they're all dressed
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: up and ready to go. She comes first to them,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and I think she knows that now. So I did
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: sort of like that, and I thought, Emily, you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: something that really stood out to me was there at
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the table and Roy says, oh, you talk to my mom?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Is she mad? And Emily says she was concerned? And
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I thought the way Emily handled that was so beautiful
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: because Emily, you know, could have been snarkier, but no,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: she handled it. Would have it would have ruined the character.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: She'd handle it any other way. She had to be classing,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: up front and honest. She had to be. And you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: there's one thing that just popped in my head, the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: operative word in this episode, I think as far as
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Rory's story is concerned, as protection and she mentioned that
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, like why does everybody feel like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: they have to protect me? And stop protecting me? This
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. And she has a real point, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's why she was cast. Not only is
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: she skilled, but her the way she looks and that
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: sweet little voice, you do want to protect her. So
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: they had to get somebody that exuded vulnerability. Um, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: there you have it, Um, there you have it, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that and that actress right there in alexis Um. Such
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a sweet face and such a sweet voice, and such
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a such a fine mind, you know, to go along,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and such a good heart. And I mean, what what
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a what a wonderful, wonderful person she is, And who
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to protect her? I mean everybody? I mean
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: look at look at what Look at what Lane goes through.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I mean Lane acted like a jilted lover, like she
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: is devastated. She was so happy for that hug at
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the end performance. And look, I don't pretend to be
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: like the best acting critic in the world, but to me,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: performance is flawless. There's they all just seems so real. Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you can't criticize I mean, from Richard all the way
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to Kirk like and in between, like every single performance
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: just is flawless. I agree, and every little bit too
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: because we there's always so many storylines. We haven't even
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: talked about your crappy cat gift and the makeover because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that was major, like that cat, you know, the you
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: know the cat gift Jesus that the cat pottled or
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: so bad. So that's the that's the real question, isn't
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it is Laurel I acting more as a friend or
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: more as the person try to drive a wedge between
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: his successful relationship with seeing some light at the end
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: of the tunnel for looking Laura life. It's not intentional,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: but no, I don't think it was shopping. It's not intentional,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: but nobody is shopping for their body right, shop for
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: their boyfriend, like exactly, come yeah, I just is he
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that clueless where you know he just needs some but
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a friend like that to do that for him? No,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: because it was so that's what a husband and wife do.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Like the whole thing was like the way a couple behaves,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: except that these two just won't acknowledge their a couple
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: because no dude is going to try on some just
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: friends random outfit you did it because it's her. Come on.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is so blatant. Are they so in
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: love and so unaware of it that they just fall
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: into this rhythm? See they do. They fall into that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: rhythm with each other right away. It doesn't matter the circumstance.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, then Rachel and she leaves. As soon as
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Rachel walks in, she Laura I just says, well, okay, bye.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: It's like thing is just so again flawless because he
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Luke takes the outfit. Of course it looks great on him,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and then the belt breaks and he's got the belt on.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Come on. But that's telling you know, that's telling Rachel
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: pretty much we're not going to work out because you know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: why isn't she doing that? And why is she doing
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that with Laura? Why is he doing that with Laura La?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And what is going on? Those two look like they're
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: along together. And yeah, I don't think Luke. Luke wouldn't
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: have allowed Laura La to do it, and he really
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: didn't allow her to do it. Um, But if he
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: was really in love with Rachel and really wanted to
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: have something really and he felt a real future was happening,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: he would have told her and he did. He never
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: would have agreed to the wardrobe fitting, correct, He would
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: not have put the clothes on and come out and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: been fitted and you know, been his sort of complaining self.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, he wouldn't have let it get to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: that point because he would have been like, like, what
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if Rachel sees us. I mean, it's right in the diners,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: right in your face. Is not a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, it's like those two are
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: so connected and they have the chemistry and they have
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. That's his cheating. He can't help himself
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: with Laurela. He's already like emotionally kind of cheating because
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: he has the feelings. He might not be admitting it
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to himself, but like all of us are like, I mean,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: but look at him. I mean, he not only did
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a rant, a rant over the what is the meal
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: gloves or the kitten gloves or whatever they were? The
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: kitten ofven mets were okay, So he did that rant
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: about giving gifts, and then he did a double rant, right,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: what was the double rant over he did? And he
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: had her the credit card also so quickly. Those are
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: not things you do like you you do that with
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: someone that you're so tight with, like they acted like
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a married because they've been married. Spend it's just like
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: here's my credit card, like I completely trust you, what's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: mine is yours like it's just And she handles the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: rants so beautifully because she's amused by it. And this
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: is Luke And this is what I love about Luke.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: He's so unfiltered and so real that I love this guy.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: And she stands there and does her funny little lines
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and she's the only one that can probably handle him totally.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And we're also realizing how doomed, for lack of a
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: better word, Mr Medina, Max and Loria Lee are because
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: she didn't even tell anybody. And I know she's sort
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of backpedaling that at the end, but it's like, come on, yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you know I I have very little commentary about the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Max Medina today this episode, which will make some people
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: very happy. I'm sure you know my comment on Max
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Medinas that's a head of hair. That's a nice set
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of hair, isn't it. Let's be let's let's be positive
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: about Max Medina. That poor s O B is in
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a situation. I mean, he walked into the middle of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a volcano, an active volcano, and the poor guy is
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: just getting lava all over him and he's just he's
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get burned. He's getting burned totally. It's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: getting so it's getting more and more obvious that that's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: going to happen. And I think the scene in the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: bedroom at the Gilmore's, you know, Richard and Emily's, where
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Loyal lies opening up about her own flaws and how
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want Rory to have those flaws. You realize again,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Max isn't prepared for this, but Luke is. Luke knows
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: her and can handle this completely, whereas Max is all like,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: why don't you tell Rory? Oh? You know, honestly, dude,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: she's not ready. She didn't tell anybody because she's not
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: ready to admit any of this. You know, any judgments
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: or criticism that you may have had during the episode
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: towards Laurelay's character are wiped away in that scene, that
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: very last scene, because she comes off so smart and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: so loving and so caring and so just brilliant a mother.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I agree, and I don't want to pass my flaws
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: onto you. And I know I have them right. It's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: it's just what a gorgeous scene. And that was a
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: scene that that was a gory That was my favorite scene.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: It was just gorgeous. It really was just a beautiful scene. Yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: because it really made you they had so much tension
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and with that explanation everything was okay and they were
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: good and I thought it was really cool, even though
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: there was a moment of sort of snark in it
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: that Laura Lee said, thank you mom. Yeah, you know,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I think she'd snarky right out, but it was great.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It was like, how much would you want to live
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: in that house? We'll see you tomorrow night seven o'clock shop,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Oh is it seventh? Good night, Laurela. It's like to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: at that house with a homemade pop tart and the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: lamb sandwich, like the whole thing. I'm like, no, wonder
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you want to go here? Me too? I mean that
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: place is how rich are a bay? I know we
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: always say it, but it's like there's just something to
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: make you, like a homemade breakfast and the skirts being ironed,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like what a place that it? How
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  Speaker 1: after Emily said, you know, you know, or you've you've
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  Speaker 1: never nobody's ever been able to get Richard lower and
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  Speaker 1: stop reading his newspaper and then the whole thing each
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  Speaker 1: episode and I know, I just we say this like
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a broken record, but each episode tops the one before.
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  Speaker 1: That's not I know, how does it get better than this?
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  Speaker 1: Is going to get better than this one? Yes, look,
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  Speaker 1: we're coming to the end of season one, but we
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  Speaker 1: all know because we've had Milo like Jess is coming,
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  Speaker 1: Jess is coming so soon. Wait he's coming. Oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait. We gotta have him on the show again.
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  Speaker 1: Pultrick is running out of time. Let's go, right, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: this is I'm Riley this year pop culture. Three minutes
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  Speaker 1: to get through it all, speed round. Okay. So first
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  Speaker 1: we have Laura, Lee and Rory are in the diner
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  Speaker 1: and they're playing the game as men walked by one
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  Speaker 1: to three. You know, he's yours and Laura Lie says,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not. Anna Nicole Smith after pointing to an
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  Speaker 1: old man. So while before performing at a Houston strip
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  Speaker 1: club in October nineteen and one, Smith met eighty six
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: year old petroleum tycoon J. Howard Marshall. Anna married her husband, J.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Howard Marshall, and the two had a sixty three year
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: aged gap between them. So Anna was in you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: hot water when there was quite a scandal when the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: question came to be who the father was of her daughter,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Danny Lynn. Yeah, that was after the old guy died, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: he passed away. So then they went on to the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: scandal scandal and Anna's living partner, Howard case Stern's name
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: was on the birth certificate, but the actual father ended
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: up being Larry Burkhead, who you know he's now the father.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Moving on, While on the phone with Max, Laura Lai
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: asked Max to make a gorilla sound and he says why,
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  Speaker 1: and she says, I want to play and I want
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  Speaker 1: to play Wild Kingdom. So we have made reference to
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: this before Gilmore Girls Girls did in season one, episode fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: But here a couple more fun facts. The show came
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: under heavy criticism for staging scenes of animal capture or
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: rescue for simply a dramatic effect, and Johnny Carson, the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: legendary talk show host, was a huge fan of the show.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Laura I buys closed for Luke as we talked about
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  Speaker 1: in the diner at the mall, and would like for
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: him to try something new. Laura I says, just for once,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice to be dressed like an extra?
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  Speaker 1: For Seven Brides and Seven Brothers. This is a nine
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  Speaker 1: four American musical film. For the bride's costumes designer Walter
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Plunkett went to the Salvation Army found old quilts and
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: turned them into dresses. And it was originally supposed to
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: be called a bride for seven brothers. But they thought
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: this would be a little too risk. Ay, you have
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: two minutes too much? Okay, Laura I finds out Rory
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  Speaker 1: is that Emily and Richard's house, and more, liceays to
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Max know that house is not safe. It's like Amityville Hohore,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: without the fun, without the good times. So The Annimityville
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Horror is a book by American author j Anson was
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: published in nineteen seventy seven. It is also the basis
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: for a series of films ranging from nineteen seventy nine
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  Speaker 1: to one. The nineteen seventy nine films started James Berlin
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  Speaker 1: and Market kidder Um. The two thousand five renditions started
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds and Melissa George. Okay, next we have Laura
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  Speaker 1: Lee is talking about how Rory is so much like
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Laura Lie but does not want her to be like that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: In the love life department, Laura lies for it. Says,
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  Speaker 1: for example, say you're dating Taylor Hanson. Roy says Hanson
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  Speaker 1: still together. Laura La says, they're like the New Begs.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Another boy brand reference, another boymand reference, and all three
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of them are actually still together. All three are married,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and they have about fifteen kids between the three of them.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Moving on to the bgs. Bgs were popular in the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies. The three brothers Barry, Robin and Maurice
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: were best friends and all headhouses right next to each
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: other might be Morris. I think it's spelled Maurice, but
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: it's Morris. Laura Lai says, good, Okay. Last week we
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: were talking about Meryl Streep in the whole Accent thing,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and Rachel said that she loved Out of Africa, but
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: she had never read the book. Remember so Out of
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Africa's American epic romantic dramas. Darring Meryl Streep and Robert Redford,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the film was basically based loosely on the book. Meryl
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Streep was nominated for Best Actress in the Leading role,
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  Speaker 1: but sadly did not win. UM. Moving on to the
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: next one, Dean asked Lane this question after meeting Mrs
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  Speaker 1: Kim because this is kim is demanding and strict personality.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Dean says, how she seen Patton Patton Is In nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy American epic biographic more film UM. George C. Scott
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  Speaker 1: won the Academy Award for Best Actor and famously refused
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to accept it, claiming the competition between actors was unfair.
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  Speaker 1: Last one, Laura and Emily are in the hallway after
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  Speaker 1: Rory runs it away into Emily and Richards and lorya
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  Speaker 1: lie size. Excuse me, Mr Castle, hotel Howard, This says Howard, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: keep going, Keep going. Howard Coast was an American sports
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  Speaker 1: jouralist and author. He became prominent in and influential during
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: his time at ABC Sports from nineteen eighty five. He
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: was known for his blustering and confident personality. Some argue
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Howard belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Yes,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: he's a legend. My favorite, my favorite line delivered by Richard.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're upset, but I applaud your timing. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that was great. That was great. It was great. It
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: was great. Give your line, Lola says, I'm buzzed on
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  Speaker 1: the sugar and jazzed about the purchases. Nice. My my
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: favorite line wasn't a line again. I'm gonna give. I'm
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna adopt my cap to Yannick Truesdale as Michelle,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: who simply when found out that Max said it's personal
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: phone call, he threw the phone at Laureli. It was hysterical. Yes, okay.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Next week is the final episode of c We haven't
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: even talked about how militant Mrs Kim was in this episode.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: She's never been more unhinged. I mean she attacked Dean verbally. Right,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was so funny stuff. All right,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: everybody that's gonna do it for this episode? What another
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: rollicking affair. We had degrees, we had a breakdown. We
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: had a three minute pop culture. This was like It's
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: like it was like that you got Drews Kid through quarantine.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That's just like the connective tissue winner was he really? Yeah?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: He has that mirrable. I think he does. He's a
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: mirrable anyway. Next week, next week, final episode of season one.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Next week is the final episode. We do. We have
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: special guests. The guests the heat. We're bringing the heat,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: aren't we are? We're bringing some heat, alright, guysing announcement
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