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It's Not Easy Being a Fan, The CFL Outsider S03 E09 · The CFL Outsiders

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  Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain as always your 100% impartial, completely unbiased, and frankly at a bit of a low ebb host, old man shouting at clouds.
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  And for the panel this week, besides the regulars, we've got MJ2 making an appearance.
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  Welcome back, MJ2.
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  Thanks.
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  Hi everyone.
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  Shout out from Calgary where my neighborhood's a little more quiet now that stampede is over.
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  Ah And of course the usual rogues GT
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  Hey everyone, welcome back.
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  another week.
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  Here we go.
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  Yeah.
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  And MJ wearing a very nice Montreal jersey.
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  Yeah, we all know why.
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  And I just want to say thank you to everyone who attended my Ti-cats therapy session last week.
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  Um, and you stuck through it.
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  Thank you for letting me get my feelings out.
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  Yeah, definitely needed.
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  and and it's very good that we got uh MJ two here to to take up a bit of the slack because frankly, I'm just hoping I make it through the show here.
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  I apologize in advance.
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  Something in the backyard started pollen producing the today and I my allergies have just gone completely off the rails.
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  I'm I'm gonna try and get through this and then
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  load up on as much Benadryl as I can legally take and go to sleep.
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  So best of luck uh for me I guess with the show.
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  We'll see how everybody else is going.
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  but to start us off this week, MJ, you said you had speaking of the Tiger Cats and Therapy, a game you wanted us to play.
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  Yeah, I mean if we don't laugh, we're gonna cry.
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  so let's play a game.
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  Which former Ty Cat quarterback is gonna come save the day?
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  I have five choices for you.
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  Rank them in order of one to five.
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  All right, number one, Dane Evans.
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  we're gonna do it blind.
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  here now.
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  Oh, it's a blind ranking.
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  Blind ranking.
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  Um
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  I'll s put I'll play it safe and put Dane at number three.
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  Who's gonna jump in next?
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  I will go with I'm gonna go with number four.
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  Okay.
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  MJ2?
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  Uh three.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm with you.
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  In the middle.
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  Jeff Matthews.
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  Jeff Matthews.
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  Oh wow.
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  Do I yeah, I'll put him five
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  Jeff Matthews.
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  I'm trying to think who could be worse.
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  That's the trick of this list.
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  So I'm going I'm going five as well.
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  Jeff Matthews at five, so there you go.
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  Alright.
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  Matthew Schilz.
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  Mmm.
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  Hmm.
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  Uh a good Yeah.
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  I better put him at two.
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  I'm gonna put at three.
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  Putting him at four.
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  Okay.
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  Jeremiah Mazzoli.
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  Oh.
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  Well I've got one and four left, so I better say four.
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  Two.
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  And num five is good, right?
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  Or is one good?
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  Oh.
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  Well, I've messed my game up.
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  You know what?
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  Doesn't matter.
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  number one for Mazzoli.
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  All right, and number five, former TICAT quarterback to parachute in to help save the season, Danny McManus.
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  that was one I wasn't expecting.
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  Despite his age, I will I will put him at number one.
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  That's all I got left.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Danny would be number one.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  knew you needed a laugh.
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  Alright, Danny, come save us.
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  Oh, I was waiting for Casey printers.
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  That's what I was expecting.
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  Yes.
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  ones to choose from Quentin Porter, Dan Lefivre, like oh yeah.
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  Johnny Monsel I was waiting for Johnny football.
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  Just so many amazing options.
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  Yes.
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  I think it was on
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  You could have put Jason Moss on the list.
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  I ch well he's coaching GT.
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  How can he come save the Thai cards?
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  feel badly enough that he might help out.
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  Yeah.
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  matter.
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  playing until two days later or the next day.
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  He could do both.
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  And his team seems to be operating well well enough without him anyway.
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  They don't need him.
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  You're right, you're right.
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  Jason Maas please come help us.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  I think it was on Reddit last week we were having a little bit of a a joke fest about that and names like Matt Dunegan were the were were coming up and Michael Bishop and
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  Someone asked what Darien Durant, Double D's, was doing these days.
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  I mean that's Kevin Glenn.
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  Kevin Glenn.
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  We're I
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  Quintin Porter.
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  These are all people that could come out.
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  Yes.
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  And all would probably be better than Jake Talagala, unfortunately.
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  there'll be stuff to talk about in the game.
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  But moving on so we don't get to get too too bogged up.
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  Yeah.
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  little bits of news here and there, not a lot this week, but we've got some things that we're gonna talk about that aren't necessarily news too, so but in the news, BC has now
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  hired their new special teams coordinator.
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  Dennis McKnight.
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  He has been in the CFL before and spent a bunch of time in the AFL, UFL, whatever it was at the time.
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  He started in Edmonton in two thousand eleven.
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  He's a former offensive lineman.
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  He was the O line coach and special teams coordinator there.
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  Then in Hamilton he was special teams quarter in twenty eighteen and back again in twenty twenty four and twenty five.
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  And then there were stints, like I said, in the spring leagues from there.
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  I don't know him much.
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  Maybe as Hamilton fans you'll you'll know him better.
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  Wha what do you think?
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  Is he a good fit?
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  So he is a man who looks like he would make you run suicide sprints at the end of practice.
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  But I think that like cause he replaced someone, like they fired some guy, like in 2024, halfway through, didn't they?
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  And he came in?
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  Yeah, I was trying to remember if he was the guy they fired or whether he was the guy that he they replaced after they fired somebody.
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  And
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  because he was their special teams coordinator last year.
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  Yeah.
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  Which I'm surprised I guess they needed to give Bob Dice another role so he was odd man out.
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  But I loved how they like I read I forget what article I read and they're talking about how he's like, no, I was just at home and like thought talking about just how much I love
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  football.
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  And sure, why not come back to coach?
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  And his wife was like, Wait, what?
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  You said we were done.
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  And maybe that's just me paraphrasing, but I thought it was pretty funny.
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  I think Hamilton did okay on special teams.
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  So like like he said in the article, sharpen those tackles.
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  he's got the personnel and I think you folks talked about that last time.
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  He's got the personnel.
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  It's just how do you make sure that they know how to properly tackle or when to or how to and hopefully can turn it around.
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  running suicides at the end of practice.
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  Yes, because like it's
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  so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
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  I'd like to know the list though.
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  they won't tell us of course, but it would be interesting to see the list of people that they actually interview 'Cause it does seem like again, you know, another for want of a
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  better word, rehash retread of another co of another guy.
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  And it's like
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  I just wish there was new blood occasionally, rather than getting the same old group of guys recycling through again.
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  So
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  Has he worked with any of the other staff that's currently coaching B C?
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  Like that I have no idea.
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  I wonder what sort of brought him in for me.
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  resume, I don't think so.
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  Based on his resume versus the other I didn't read that anywhere, but based on where he had been and where the current coaching staff has been, uh I don't think so.
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  I don't think there's been a lot of continuity.
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  I think it'd be pretty hard to drop a rookie special teams coordinator in though, like six weeks in.
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  hopefully they'll have a someone better, but for now
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  Yes.
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  And and I will s I will say as a former O lineman myself, we absolutely hated suicide sprints.
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  So of course if you get a chance to inflict them on somebody else, you will.
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  Of course.
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  It's always fun being coached.
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  them
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  Okay, so fingers crossed, he's a he's a good fit for BC because yeah, they've been struggling a bit, although they did some better in the last game.
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  Let's jump on lyrical eloquence.
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  I don't know if you are familiar with this MJ2, but this is something where we've started dropping in little lines from songs and and inviting the the followers, the listeners to
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  to pick them out.
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  Now I have to admit
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  I was bad last week.
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  I forgot to put mine in.
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  So
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  I was trying to figure out if where yours was and I couldn't find anything.
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  So I'm glad that you had you've you've you fessed up and said you didn't have one.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, so how about you, GT?
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  Yes, I used I did have one last week and it was based on the Stampeders the previous week and the performance by VA and it was, I've been waiting for this moment for all my life.
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  Lord, can you feel it coming in the air tonight?
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  Phil Collins
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  Yes.
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  And I believe before MJ gives it away, I think I got hers, but I want her to tell us what it is first and then I will say whether I got it right or not.
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  Okay.
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  is a breeze in my hair on the weekend.
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  A little more Taylor Swift.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, that's not what I heard.
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  Did I accidentally say another one?
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  How exciting for me.
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  Yeah, you had used it twice and so I thought that was the trick with Stampede and everything going on and I know your beloved Stampede Bull just finishing that I thought
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  you'd used all hat, no cattle.
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  But Yes.
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  But I wasn't sure whether w I did what I didn't I wasn't sure which version you were using, whether it was the two thousand seventeen Tracy Atkins or the twenty twenty two
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  Gene Watson.
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  So I like, I don't know which one she's using there.
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  I knew it was a song lyric, I didn't know which version.
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  And it is sums up my country music knowledge.
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  I'm like, it was a song.
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  Don't ask me for who.
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  Ha.
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  Okay.
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  Well
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  we just have we just have to every week look up every Taylor Swift song and we'll tr maybe figure this out.
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  Yeah, okay, there's only one Taylor Swift song.
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  I've often said that, but nobody listens to me when I say that,
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  Alrighty.
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  So see what you can listen to for this week.
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  We'll uh we'll see what we get.
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  We also wanted to talk a little bit about the fact that apparently Mr.
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  Kelly Chad is not happy with the schedule and them be starting the first third of the season on the road.
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  Now, MJ, you ta brought this up, so I'm gonna let you talk about it, but
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  My initial comment is I don't think he should be telling the public about it.
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  There's somebody in the building he could talk to.
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  Like, sir, please direct your comments to the management.
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  he's mad about his hour commute.
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  He's like, we have to commute an hour, and I was like, oh, okay.
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  Also, maybe talk to your management about touchdown guelph since you have all your offices there.
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  where did where did this come from?
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  it was a quote.
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  I will read it for you.
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  Toronto quarterback Kelly says FIFA's takeover of BMO Field for the World Cup has played a major role in the team's early season struggles, forcing the Argos to be on the season
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  with an unprecedented road trip.
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  the team has also been displaced from his practice field season offices, forcing some players to commute more than an hour each day.
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  It's unprecedented.
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  Etc, etc.
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  All right.
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  So that's so that's the story, but I didn't hear a quote from him anywhere in that.
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  I just heard a reporter regurgitating what we've known for a year.
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  just it says like Argo's quarterback Chad Kelly says FIFA's takeover of Bemo Field for the World Cup has played a major role in the team's early season struggles.
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  But I was like, but I just saw I just saw that we have to commute and I laughed.
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  I was like, oh, okay.
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  Take it up with MLSE please, not us.
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  Yes, exactly.
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  They they had many choices.
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  Well and after all of the discussions about how amazing yeah, touchdown B C or not touchdown B C what was it called?
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  Was it
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  Touchdown Kelowna, there we go.
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  After all of the like praise for touchdown Kelowna and how much work went into that and the promotion of that and getting involved in the community.
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  And I think, I don't know what Mike Pinball Clemens' job is in the Toronto organization, but I feel like that's again a ball dropped um by him because that seems like something
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  that he would be on top of is building those connections in the community, especially if they're they made that big deal about moving to
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  Guelph they made that big video so I just think like what a lost opportunity for the Argos that BC capitalized on making the best of like you know maybe not great situation and I
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  say it's all right.
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  I just yeah
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  Tycats played there for a year in Guelph.
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  Like, don't talk to us about that.
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  Oh, Tycats had to commute for a year, Chad!
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  Yeah.
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  again, guys, though wait, wait.
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  I think you're overreacting to something that may not be Chad.
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  Reread it.
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  I don't see a quote there.
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  Let's not dump it on him.
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  They've met they mentioned him and again, this is some reporter from what you've just told me and without sourcing it, I don't know where it came from, who it whether it was a
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  legitimate reporter, whether it was some cub guy that just all of sudden wants a quote because of touchdown Kelowna and how great it's been
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  And all of a sudden wants to find out how come the article's This stuff is not news anymore.
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  it was a quote out of three down nation.
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  So it was a football reporter that did it
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  to uh to get to it.
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  yeah.
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  of quotes from Chad in this article.
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  profession
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  from him.
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  There's no doubt about it.
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  He doesn't keep his lips closed.
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  He's quotable.
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  Move on.
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  I've got another thing that I'm a lot more upset with with Di Argos about than something like that.
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  So that they've buggered up way worse than that.
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  than going to Guelph every day.
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  You know, an hour's commute, whatever it is.
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  and I've heard nothing but good things about Guelph in the meantime and how much people the players have enjoyed it and liked the stadium and like the facilities and so on and so
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  forth.
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  So there's that.
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  But anyways, I was gonna talk about my little rant on the Argos later.
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  Okay, well we'll get back to that, but i in the end here it it really was just Yeah.
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  how the quote ends.
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  It's just what it is right now.
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  And so clearly expressing what maybe a lot of people in the locker room are also saying.
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  Yeah, It is what it is and there's and yes, the quote is true.
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  It's not the best situation.
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  And you're right, MJ two, they should have done it, but that's again not Michael Pinball's Clemens situation.
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  That's the MLSE and the and the bigwigs that made that decision.
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  He just he's just toting the company line and that's all he can do.
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  it's fairly apparent at least to me that they put money ahead of the players and the fans to to get it done.
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  ah
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  we've been saying that since it was announced in December or whenever it was.
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  Yeah.
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  MJ Two, when you uh decided to jump in this week, you said you wanted to talk about some potential records that might fall.
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  Good news.
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  of Chad Kelly, a man we love to talk about.
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  going back to the Stampede Bowl and how much fun it was to watch VA break some of those franchise records.
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  well not break, but he tied people like Garcia and Flutie.
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  So he's being mentioned with some of those people and that got me really excited about some of these players that are having this fabulous season and not just having a great
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  season, but are on pace to break some records and I thought
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  Let's talk about some of those because I think um that's why we love this game so much is because we're always pushing and as much as I don't like Kelly, he is on pace.
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  He's chasing down the passing yards, total passing yards.
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  The record is held by Doug Flutie at 6,619.
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  And if Kelly stays on pace, he's gonna blow past that.
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  And they're saying he could have up to 6,000, close to 6,500 by the end of the season.
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  So I mean, as much as he's complaining about doing the drive, something is working this season for him.
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  So that's exciting.
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  Um
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  But there's two names on this list that um they have multiples.
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  So um I want you to try and guess.
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  So they are both on the Ofense, neither are quarterbacks.
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  one has chasing three records and one is chasing two records, one is from the east, one is from the west.
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  Do you think you know who they are?
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  I know who I think I know who they are.
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  I'm pretty sure I know who they are.
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  They've been talking about all season off so it's pretty hard not to know who they are.
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  Yeah, but I yes, but I yes, but I thought it was interesting.
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  gonna break a record this year?
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  Yeah.
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  But I thought it was interesting that Rankin's on pace to beat three records this year.
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  he's chasing the total scrimmage yards.
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  he's chasing down um total touchdowns, chasing after Milt.
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  all I can think about is Milt chasing that cow.
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  so put Rankin in a cow outfit.
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  I don't know.
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  But this one was interesting to me the most is
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  Something that has never been done before is uh Rankin, he's on pace to get one thousand rushing and one thousand receiving yards.
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  And that would be a new record completely this year.
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  So good on him.
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  Yeah.
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  And then Phil Pot, he's chasing receptions and receiving yards, trying to beat Daryl Mitchell and Alan Pitts.
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  And then we've got our quarterbacks,
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  VA for passing touchdowns, and then Alexander for passing yards, both chasing down Flutie.
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  So I mean to have that many records on pace to be broken, um, if you're thinking back, like some of these records are quite old, like Alan Pitts, Melt Steagel, like yeah, that
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  so as much as there are some teams that are stinking it up, um, there's a lot
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  happening.
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  Yeah, a lot of good play going on.
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  Maybe it's just me and my attitude towards these things, but I don't get terribly excited about these potential records until we're at least into the last third of the season.
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  Because there's so much with injuries Rankin is probably as long as he stays healthy, it's more on him.
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  But if the uh as far as Philbot goes, if Alexander gets hurt
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  That probably takes away a lot of his chances, let alone him getting hurt himself
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  it's not just that they're having one game.
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  They're just up, you know, they're just consistent every game, no matter what the other team does.
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  I don't see either team as a fluke anymore.
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  So they're they I think that yeah, I think both of them could break both all of those records.
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  Yeah, there was a couple of other ones.
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  We you talked about Chad Kelly and getting him there, but I think Bo was on on pace as well at one point, when he when he had those first three games, I think he was on pace to
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  go for that.
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  that would have been three seasons in a row, well over five thousand yards.
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  And I wasn't sure if anybody else had done that.
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  Even back in the heyday of the Dunnegan Flutie era in the early nineties, I'm not sure that any one of them went three years in a row, well over five thousand.
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  So, and maybe they did and maybe I just don't remember, but but I thought that was pretty impressive as well.
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  When you mentioned uh, records that could be broken this year.
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  but yeah, uh both Philpott and and um Rankin should should go for it.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  Well and I know that Smith from Hamilton, he's over seventy games, consecutive games with a catch.
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  And so I'm thinking how many guys in that race as well right now?
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  seventy games is a long way from the record on that one.
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  I'm going off the top of my head now.
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  I know it was Don Narcisse with the riders that holds the record and I think it's two hundred and one games.
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  So Yeah.
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  us have something.
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  Yeah.
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  uh
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  it won't happen.
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  It's just Yeah.
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  can't have anything nice, so you just let us have one.
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  all I'm glad the all defenses are letting them push it this year.
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  It's been nice.
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  Yeah.
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  Well.
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  is in good company, like Flutie Garcia, like for Calgary.
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  I again thinking of s franchise records.
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  Yeah.
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  They
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  been some great football offense played.
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  Yeah, there was an interesting I saw just off while we're briefly on that subject.
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  I saw an interview with with Flo today from from the Stampeders Ormelade, and they asked him about how do you stop those high scoring offenses this year?
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  He says, We are not giving up more yardage than we did last year.
• 21:52
  It's if you look around the defenses across the league, the yardage is the same.
• 21:56
  It's just explosive plays.
• 21:57
  and it's everywhere.
• 21:58
  He said, I we're not sure, but we're trying to figure it out.
• 22:02
  And uh every team's in the same position.
• 22:03
  Uh it's you know, it's a quarterback play is just way up this year.
• 22:07
  And that's basically what everybody on television seems to be saying in the last couple of weeks as well.
• 22:12
  So until this week.
• 22:16
  well there were yeah.
• 22:17
  Unfortunately, yes, with with Bo gone that's one less sta st amazing performance per week that we're missing.
• 22:24
  I'll just quickly say here because we've been tracking it every week, attendance was back up this week.
• 22:28
  The average was just shy of twenty three thousand.
• 22:33
  Winnipeg of course was the top.
• 22:34
  They had thirty-two thousand in change and Edmonton was the lowest, but they were just shy of sixteen thousand.
• 22:42
  So that's a considerable improvement over what they've been getting last year.
• 22:46
  And go go figure.
• 22:48
  the name is still the Elks and people are coming back.
• 22:51
  What could be the difference?
• 22:53
  one day of that week it didn't rain.
• 22:55
  Yeah.
• 22:57
  Well and
• 22:58
  see Rankin play.
• 22:59
  I would love to see him play live.
• 23:01
  Well and a and a four and one record sort of helps too, I think.
• 23:05
  absolutely.
• 23:06
  Yeah.
• 23:08
  Okay, so that's enough of that.
• 23:10
  signings and releases this week.
• 23:11
  I only caught one.
• 23:12
  I don't know if anybody else saw any and that was just today.
• 23:15
  The uh Red Black signed Dante Ruffin as a D B.
• 23:19
  He last I heard he was in the BC training camp and got cut.
• 23:24
  And of course he had been with Montreal before that, and I'm not sure if he was anywhere else or not.
• 23:30
  But he's there and that that kind of makes sense with Bennett Williams.
• 23:35
  being out with the Achilles, they need somebody else with some experience in there.
• 23:38
  We also wanted to talk uh I'm not sure if it's MJ or MJ two that was going to talk about the NFL being at the Stampede, Calgary Stampede.
• 23:48
  I just wanted to quickly mention it because it's everywhere I go
• 23:51
  the NFL had a booth at the Calgary Stampede this year and I think MJ2 could probably tell you better what the booths entail.
• 23:58
  But they won Best Show Guest Experience Award at the Beamle Center for so and um they partnered up with um a local Alberta boot company for NFL boots that you could win.
• 24:12
  And they uh partnered with a Canadian clothing company, Boathouse, for a nine-piece clothing collection for NFL Stampede Gear.
• 24:20
  And um a few of the teams are there and the Vikings actually held a free flag football and cheerleading clinic in Calgary during Stampede for kids.
• 24:27
  they didn't say how many people were at flag, but they had a hundred and fifty people at the cheer cheer training.
• 24:32
  Yeah.
• 24:33
  And not so much from the CFL, I'm guessing.
• 24:37
  Yeah.
• 24:37
  MJ so I live in Calgary, as I've mentioned, and was in town during Stampede and I don't often go down to the grounds, but I do every once in a while.
• 24:47
  And if I had known
• 24:49
  that the gray cup was in town, I probably would have gone to see it.
• 24:54
  Like that to me is a fun thing to do because it's not usually just the cup that's there.
• 24:59
  The like I think of when they did the the train, the the CFL train where it toured, you know, it's not just usually the cup that shows up.
• 25:08
  Um so yeah, I'm curious what was there, but I have no idea 'cause I didn't even know it was there.
• 25:14
  Like the Stampede Bowl Trophy?
• 25:18
  With some Stampeders?
• 25:20
  I don't know.
• 25:21
  Were they in the parade?
• 25:22
  I wonder if they were in the parade with their Stampede Bowl.
• 25:25
  were in the parade.
• 25:26
  I believe I saw an article saying they were in the parade.
• 25:29
  Yeah, earn some of that marketing money they make.
• 25:31
  Yeah.
• 25:32
  it's good the CFL had the cup the gray cup there, but if nobody knows about it, how does it help?
• 25:37
  So Yeah.
• 25:38
  Like I said, I'm at a low ebb.
• 25:40
  I'm probably overly cynical.
• 25:41
  just try a little bit harder, C FL, because the NFL's really encroaching on your market marketing.
• 25:49
  the stampede is is a one of a kind thing, but just about every province has a big provincial fair at some point through it.
• 25:55
  And why isn't the C FL out getting a booth at those things and promoting themselves some?
• 26:01
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  The elk's gonna have like a visitor like enemy booth.
• 26:06
  Yeah.
• 26:06
  Yes.
• 26:07
  There we go.
• 26:07
  Yes.
• 26:09
  You you're welcome.
• 26:11
  actually something the Riders would have done.
• 26:12
  and I'm so I'm kinda surprised they didn't.
• 26:14
  That's you're right.
• 26:15
  That's something the Riders could have done and would and and in the Yeah.
• 26:21
  Yeah.
• 26:22
  Yeah.
• 26:22
  You're welcome, Mr.
• 26:23
  Johnson and all the club presidents.
• 26:27
  These ideas are free to you.
• 26:29
  ha.
• 26:30
  Okay, I I'm gonna just mention a couple of things quick 'cause they came up after I went through the r the show rundown, so you won't see them on there, but I I thought they were
• 26:39
  worth mentioning and you can comment or not if you want.
• 26:42
  The first one is that we're at halfway through July now and the riders announced they've sold out the Labor Day Classic.
• 26:49
  So that's good news for support and for the league and all.
• 26:52
  And then the second one was
• 26:55
  a report unfortunately of a death, but I think the fellow, yeah, was eighty-nine.
• 27:00
  He was a rider and I didn't even recognize the name, mind you, he came into the league basically a year after I was born.
• 27:08
  So Saskatchewan rep writers quarterback in D B Bob Patak, I believe is closest I can get to it.
• 27:15
  The reason that I included this in was
• 27:18
  An interesting little bit of history.
• 27:20
  He was traded to the Riders from the Cleveland Browns of the NFL.
• 27:24
  And they sent uh defensive lineman Jim Marshall down to the Browns in exchange.
• 27:29
  So an interleague trade.
• 27:32
  I didn't even know that happened.
• 27:34
  Yeah.
• 27:36
  And what year was that?
• 27:37
  like sorry guy yeah.
• 27:39
  fifty nine.
• 27:40
  Okay.
• 27:40
  Cool.
• 27:41
  Can imagine Q Bing and then being like, Okay, now I'm off to D B like
• 27:45
  what I was gonna say.
• 27:46
  The game has definitely changed.
• 27:49
  changed.
• 27:49
  Yes, the article I saw on three down that they said he was a very respected two way player.
• 27:55
  He was good in both sides.
• 27:56
  So yeah.
• 27:57
  We've we've got a league now where you basically can't breathe on a quarterback and back then they'd finish throwing the ball and go make tackles.
• 28:04
  Iron Man football.
• 28:05
  It was a different sort of time.
• 28:07
  Huh.
• 28:09
  on um yeah, like special teams and maybe defense or offense, but not yeah.
• 28:16
  Wow.
• 28:16
  small guys, payroll is small.
• 28:19
  Exactly.
• 28:20
  Well, and the other thing is back in those days the NFL was not paying substantially more than the CFL, if at all.
• 28:28
  in fact I remember hear yeah.
• 28:30
  I remember hearing that George Reed had an offer to go play in the NFL, but the riders were paying him more, so he just stayed.
• 28:38
  So another change between the two.
• 28:41
  all right.
• 28:42
  Let's see, what else have we got?
• 28:43
  Well, we're gonna get to the game recap, but the other thing we'll do real quick is our fantasy recap in case anybody gives a damn.
• 28:50
  For myself, I managed to to win and get up to three and three, back to five hundred.
• 28:55
  So last week I had a hundred and thirty two point one points, I think, and I was top score in the league.
• 29:02
  This week I had a hundred and sixteen point three and out of a sixteen team league I was thirteenth.
• 29:07
  So if everybody I I've started taking Rankin as a defensive move because I figure everybody's going to have him.
• 29:13
  I've got to at least match that.
• 29:14
  What I discovered is that half the league took him as their captain as well.
• 29:18
  So they they're doubling up the points on him, and that got it there.
• 29:21
  But my uh my opponent was shot from the hips podcast, and they didn't even have a full team.
• 29:28
  So, like I said, a bit of a gimme for me.
• 29:30
  They only had 52.3 points.
• 29:33
  Next week I get
• 29:34
  Ha ha ha.
• 29:35
  uh
• 29:39
  Sorry.
• 29:41
  Oh god!
• 29:44
  Well done.
• 29:45
  Very well done.
• 29:48
  MJ, how did you do?
• 29:49
  Yeah.
• 29:52
  was I was up against FD Commish who is the top person in the league, and she beat me by 20 points.
• 29:57
  But I had 139.7.
• 29:59
  I didn't even have a bad week, but she had Rankin' as her captain and I did not.
• 30:04
  That's the sad, sad tale.
• 30:06
  So where's your record at right now then?
• 30:09
  Three and three?
• 30:10
  Yeah.
• 30:13
  Adam Stewart out of Canadian Football Countdown is the league commissioner, even though there is a a uh player who calls himself Commission KD.
• 30:20
  But Adam didn't get the results out yet today.
• 30:23
  So I'm hoping I've crawled back up into the playoffs in the top eight, but we'll have to wait and see.
• 30:29
  do you know who you're up against next week, MJ?
• 30:31
  Hmm, I'm not sure.
• 30:33
  I don't know.
• 30:35
  It'll be a surprise for next week.
• 30:37
  Yes.
• 30:38
  Yes.
• 30:38
  Keep people on their edge of their seat.
• 30:41
  I mean it doesn't really matter because I'm still too scared to make anyone but my quarterback my captain and I keep getting burned.
• 30:47
  But I just know if I pick someone to be my captain, they're gonna get like two passes thrown their way.
• 30:53
  I just know it.
• 30:54
  I'm a little more open to the idea and I may get to it, but not next week, I will take Rankin I'll say right now, I'll take Rankin 'cause he'll get it he'll he gets you know,
• 31:05
  eighteen, twenty points minimum, which justifies spending the money on him.
• 31:09
  But I hope people make him the captain because he's back against BC where they shut him down fairly well.
• 31:16
  And yeah, you got passing yardage but we'll see.
• 31:20
  Anyway, that it takes us to the games.
• 31:22
  And speaking of that game, Ottawa goes to Edmonton and loses 40 to 17.
• 31:28
  And basically they just I started out saying they didn't have any answer for Rankin, but that's not true.
• 31:34
  Their D line and the linebackers did a relatively good job on stopping him
• 31:42
  short within you know a few yards of the line several times.
• 31:45
  And they also picked up, sacks.
• 31:47
  So that part did okay.
• 31:49
  But the problem was anytime he got past to second level, he was just embarrassing people.
• 31:55
  He in the open field nobody can touch him.
• 31:58
  And I I think that's maybe as much reputation now as anything.
• 32:03
  I'm reminded of
• 32:04
  Of Barry Sanders down in the NFL watching him run.
• 32:07
  And if he broke into the open, people immediately started running backwards and hoping they could catch him 30 yards downfield, And I that's what I'm seeing with Rankin.
• 32:15
  But anyway, so there was that.
• 32:18
  he he ended up with 150 total yards, 14 carries, three receptions, three TDs.
• 32:24
  And just like I said, they had no answer for that.
• 32:27
  on the other side,
• 32:29
  Edmonton's pass defense was quite good.
• 32:32
  Two interceptions by Jackson, one each by Ford and Garns, and uh JJ Ross made some nice plays, including a beautiful knockdown against uh Eugene Lewis.
• 32:41
  then in the fourth quarter the floodgates just opened and they scored what was it?
• 32:46
  I think Edmonton scored twenty four points in the fourth quarter.
• 32:49
  So that was it.
• 32:51
  Who wants to talk about this?
• 32:52
  you're in Edmonton, MJ, you go first.
• 32:55
  Well, I was actually out that night, so I didn't even get to watch the game, but I have a few little notes.
• 33:01
  yeah, Rankin unstoppable really.
• 33:03
  The Red Blacks ran Bell for seven times.
• 33:06
  Seven times for an entire game, with I don't get it.
• 33:09
  I don't understand it.
• 33:10
  I guess maybe I mentioned with scheming for it.
• 33:13
  He is the highest paid running back in the CFL, is he not?
• 33:17
  I don't think so.
• 33:18
  He might be the highest paid American, but I think Brady makes more than he does.
• 33:22
  highest paid American running back with seven carries for nineteen yards.
• 33:27
  Oh boy.
• 33:28
  like two and a half yards a carry.
• 33:30
  So how much can you keep doing that?
• 33:33
  The Red Blacks I feel bad because this is my note I have like Ottawa's defense is good.
• 33:38
  They have good special teams and their receivers are good.
• 33:41
  Their quarterback is bad.
• 33:43
  And your defense will keep you in games for a while.
• 33:46
  And they kept them in there because I was looking at the score while I was at the theater.
• 33:49
  I was like checking the score at the intermission.
• 33:52
  And it was close.
• 33:53
  It was close.
• 33:54
  They were it they were keeping them in it and then, you know, at the in the fourth quarter your your defense is tired.
• 33:59
  They're they've been on the ge the field the whole game.
• 34:02
  They're exhausted and then they you just get run over eventually.
• 34:05
  I just had like my two uh special teams notes.
• 34:08
  One, Noah Getman had a really nice bounce back game for the Red Blacks.
• 34:14
  And and I am really I know, like I know we're gonna talk about Saskatchewan and kicking issues and kicking issues, and I just want to say Vincent Blanchard did not have a good
• 34:22
  first year, and like look how well he's doing now.
• 34:24
  So I'm happy they stuck with him and yeah, Edmonton looks good.
• 34:28
  Okay.
• 34:29
  Thank you.
• 34:30
  How how about you, MJ two?
• 34:31
  Did you get a chance to see this one?
• 34:34
  I had a soccer game that night, so I caught highlights, but I was just texting with MJ this week saying, imagine, imagine.
• 34:43
  Um, if you had stuck with Drew Brown, imagine.
• 34:47
  And I know we can't, but but I just feel like, yeah, I agree that, your defense can keep you in it for only so long and then, you know, if you don't have like Cody Fajardo's
• 34:58
  making way more completions than Maier So at some point if you're not running and you're not completing throws, you're not gonna win.
• 35:07
  Man.
• 35:09
  Oh.
• 35:10
  Okay.
• 35:11
  And uh we'll bring in our Tommy Stevens to close this one off.
• 35:15
  Uh GT, what do you got to say?
• 35:17
  absolutely nothing 'cause uh this w I j I laughed earlier as as uh MJ two was talking about soccer because that makes three of us that did not see this game.
• 35:27
  And and and so we're three nil.
• 35:30
  and it's only because I didn't see any of the games over the weekend live and I only saw portions of them on replay and I'll talk about each one.
• 35:37
  It was a disastrous weekend for my viewing scheduling.
• 35:40
  It was just fell apart totally.
• 35:43
  and this was the game I was least interested in because it ended up scoring exactly as I suspected it would be.
• 35:49
  So it was like I didn't even care if I missed this game.
• 35:51
  And it sounds like I didn't miss anything.
• 35:53
  so I didn't even watch the highlights all this is news to me, other than what the score was I read or yesterday at some point and went, okay, that's what I suspected would
• 36:03
  happen.
• 36:04
  So yeah, that's what I have to say about it.
• 36:06
  So and yeah, I'm just thinking Edmonton is
• 36:09
  Proving that they are a good team.
• 36:11
  That's all I can say.
• 36:13
  Yeah, I
• 36:13
  have got my mom on the podcast because she for sure watched that game and was trying to text us about it and we weren't watching.
• 36:20
  Sorry mom.
• 36:23
  well
• 36:24
  she was.
• 36:24
  She's like so excited to finally have something to cheer about.
• 36:29
  I did see this game and and I will say that a couple of interesting little quirks about it.
• 36:35
  And one thing I noticed was I'm ninety-nine percent sure on this.
• 36:38
  I didn't actually go back through all the plays, but from what I saw it was one play into the second quarter and Edmonton had a seven point lead.
• 36:48
  That was the first time they threw a pass across the line of scrimmage.
• 36:52
  their entire first quarter with screen passes, Rankin runs, and that worked.
• 36:58
  okay, so then if you don't mind, I'm just gonna interject there because if that was the first game of the weekend, then that seemed to be the theme of the weekend because all I
• 37:06
  saw in all the games and all they seem to talk about in all the games was bubble p bubble screens and screen passes and how everybody every offense is utilizing that so much now,
• 37:17
  it's very hard for the uh for the defenses to do anything about it.
• 37:21
  And maybe that's again a reason that the offense output is up this year, is the defenses so far haven't been able to adjust to that bubble screen and that screen pass and those
• 37:32
  quick slants that that all the offenses seem to be running this year.
• 37:35
  And when you couple that with I think Rankin had at least three runs of fifteen to twenty yards in the quarter, so it was easy to play like that.
• 37:43
  But the other thing which probably says as much about where Ottawa is at right now as anything was there was a point late in the game they were already down considerably and
• 37:52
  they had third and ten and decided they were going to go for it, which
• 37:56
  You know, makes some sense at that point.
• 37:57
  you've got to start scoring some points.
• 38:00
  They didn't get the decision quick enough, so they had to take their time out.
• 38:05
  Came over to the sideline, regrouped, got it ready to go, went back in and almost took a time count.
• 38:12
  You could see the quarterback realize with about two seconds to go that he had to get the ball snapped, got it snapped, and in the rush threw another interception.
• 38:22
  They don't seem to be in the games.
• 38:23
  Their heads just aren't there.
• 38:25
  And I can understand, you know, losing is not all that motivating.
• 38:29
  And if you've got a coach that's tearing strips off players in public, that's not motivating either.
• 38:34
  I hope it gets better, but this game didn't show anything to me that gave much hope for that.
• 38:40
  Alrighty, so then the next one.
• 38:45
  Yeah, yeah.
• 38:46
  Yeah.
• 38:46
  yeah, but we're only game six of the schedule and we're already collecting paychecks.
• 38:50
  That's a horrible sign for another twelve games to go, right?
• 38:54
  At what point do you think they make a coaching change?
• 38:56
  But maybe they don't.
• 38:58
  um they can't because of they're still paying.
• 39:03
  Yeah.
• 39:03
  b because of the coaching cap.
• 39:05
  They just can't do it.
• 39:07
  They're stuck.
• 39:08
  They're they are in Edmonton three years ago.
• 39:12
  They are in Edmonton zone three years ago.
• 39:15
  Stuck.
• 39:16
  until they find a quarterback, I don't know the coaching is gonna matter.
• 39:19
  Well, McLeod Bethel, like when he got sacked on his first series out there.
• 39:24
  Welcome back, MBT.
• 39:26
  oh
• 39:28
  However, what was good was the next night was the Winnipeg defense.
• 39:33
  I've got to say, I was very impressed with the game plan they had for Toronto.
• 39:38
  They found a way to limit Kelly.
• 39:39
  They didn't shut him down completely.
• 39:41
  Toronto got 21 points.
• 39:43
  Winnipeg got 30 and got the win.
• 39:45
  And Drew Brown looked okay in there, but they also got a lot of field goals.
• 39:50
  They weren't finishing off drives.
• 39:52
  They got one offensive touchdown.
• 39:55
  And one on a return.
• 39:57
  And other than that, it was all field goals.
• 40:00
  a couple of things could have changed this game around.
• 40:02
  They did march down on their first drive and got to about somewhere around the ten, I think, when uh Wilson fumbled and gave the ball over to Toronto and Toronto couldn't do
• 40:13
  anything with it.
• 40:14
  If they'd been able to move it at that point, that might have helped.
• 40:16
  And there were at least
• 40:18
  twice in the first quarter that Brown would have been intercepted if the Toronto DBs could catch.
• 40:25
  So there was some luck in it, but full credit to them.
• 40:29
  And uh I know I've said before that I don't think Willie J is the player he once was, and I stand by that, but on this night he was.
• 40:37
  He had a a whale of a game.
• 40:39
  let's how about did you get to see any of this one, GT?
• 40:43
  I kind of assumed it was a Toronto victory going into that game.
• 40:46
  and then after hearing the score, I was like, oh, I've gotta rewatch this.
• 40:50
  So it was one of the games, actually the game, the only game of the weekend that I watched from start to finish.
• 40:55
  And it was uh it was a very good game.
• 40:57
  I was very impressed with Winnipeg's defense and I was impressed just enough with their offense to that yeah, it it looked like the game.
• 41:05
  The score looked like the game.
• 41:06
  I thought there was some very good plays and then Coxie getting tossed, I thought was a little le a little weak.
• 41:12
  but it is what it is, you right?
• 41:14
  It the penalty.
• 41:15
  So and 'cause it looked like he got his ankle twisted.
• 41:18
  So I can understand why.
• 41:19
  And i the guy laid on top of him for a little bit and looked like he was still twisting.
• 41:24
  Well after the play was over.
• 41:25
  So I can understand like get off of me and maybe swearing and stuff.
• 41:29
  And even the hand slap, you know, enough's enough.
• 41:32
  But uh again, that's a head slap and it's an automatic ejection.
• 41:35
  I was a little surprised at the way he went out with his, you know, all the bravado.
• 41:39
  I thought that was just nonsense.
• 41:41
  I mean, you know, whatever.
• 41:43
  You're losing in the game and you're gonna kicked out.
• 41:45
  So what are you doing?
• 41:46
  But I guess that's what it
• 41:48
  trash talking the bomber's bench earlier and I was like, Sir, you are losing.
• 41:53
  Yeah.
• 41:54
  And then apparently the head slap apparently he had been doing that several times and the refs had spoken to him and reminded him that this could be a disqualification penalty, and
• 42:04
  he just apparently did not care.
• 42:06
  He had a little B in his bonnet that night, right?
• 42:08
  I couldn't even figure out the hand gesture he was doing to the crowd after.
• 42:12
  But I was like, this isn't a way to treat your home fans, Coxie Like, come on.
• 42:16
  Yeah.
• 42:17
  But that's a selfish penalty because you're one of their top receivers.
• 42:22
  That's that was super selfish.
• 42:24
  And if that was if they had given him some chances and he was still gonna pull that, like you could just tell he was just in a mood, right?
• 42:30
  Like off you go, go cool off.
• 42:33
  Yeah.
• 42:34
  There's maybe he's frustrated with the commute too.
• 42:37
  watching too much FIFA.
• 42:38
  Yeah.
• 42:39
  Okay.
• 42:40
  What what what did you think, MJ two?
• 42:43
  well, you know what, I I feel bad 'cause I made fun of Tim White earlier in the season and it I as much as it pains me to see Ti cats leave and do well because they're not with the
• 42:54
  Thai cats anymore, I was really happy for him that, you know, he is, doing well and he had a good game, started at well anyway.
• 43:02
  So I was happy to see that.
• 43:04
  And then anytime Babel um I mean, I know he messed up a bit, but any time he can run a long run like that.
• 43:10
  I get really excited and I just think of the excitement around him last year and is he living up to that and so I was happy to see that for him.
• 43:19
  two notes.
• 43:19
  that was a great point.
• 43:20
  to way to make up for your mistake, right?
• 43:22
  It was like, well but he bobbled that and I was like, Oh no, no and I was like, he went and fixed that mistake in a huge big way.
• 43:29
  Like, good job, Vavil.
• 43:31
  Like he didn't 'cause a lot of people would just like have a shit game after that.
• 43:35
  Yeah, well
• 43:35
  Winnipeg was lucky they were able to get that time out in time 'cause you could hear the the whistle going, but Toronto trying to get that kick in and the first one was
• 43:43
  successful.
• 43:44
  think again yeah we're talking about like a winning attitude versus just collecting your paycheck right um thinking about Toronto taking selfish penalties as much as you want to
• 43:56
  talk about is it news or not but like things that you're saying in the media um and then here we've got Winnipeg
• 44:03
  Like we wanna win.
• 44:05
  What does a winning culture look like?
• 44:07
  Um you put all those pieces together and like you said, GT, you thought this would be an easy Toronto victory.
• 44:13
  Not easy, but but you were expecting that and then to have that be the outcome.
• 44:17
  Um so good on Winnipeg.
• 44:19
  Yeah.
• 44:20
  Again, like I wouldn't have thought going into the season, certainly I didn't have Winnipeg projected to be three and two at this point of the game of the season and and
• 44:29
  looking like a team with that has a legitimate shot of, you know, at least causing some disruptions through the rest of the season and and into the playoffs.
• 44:37
  And and and certainly after this week after losing Colaros, I again you wouldn't have expected this.
• 44:43
  So kudos to them and that they've managed to hang in.
• 44:47
  and get themselves in a position where they're still in the thick of it and in fact very much in the thick of it.
• 44:53
  So I will say that with that win and with the continuation, you know, of the rest of the games, I you know, the the West is going to be even more competitive and certainly it
• 45:03
  looks like at this stage I would strongly suspect we're gonna be talking uh crossover again this year before this season is out.
• 45:12
  So
• 45:12
  Yeah.
• 45:13
  sense.
• 45:13
  I uh as much as Winnipeg's offense is not firing on all cylinders yet, what you mentioned, those attention to details makes a real difference in a winning team.
• 45:23
  And you can see it in the teams that are doing well.
• 45:33
  his Chad cleaned up his interceptions.
• 45:27
  Zero interceptions.
• 45:29
  I think that's a first this year.
• 45:31
  I think he's thrown at least one or two, if not four or five, every game.
• 45:35
  So good job, Argo.
• 45:36
  So they've clearly been working on that.
• 45:38
  And um, Drew, like the bombers posted on their Instagram, and I quote, like arm strength looked pretty good.
• 45:46
  Yes.
• 45:47
  the best.
• 45:47
  And I was like, oh, Karma is a boy, a boy on the bombers.
• 45:51
  And I was just like, didn't miss a beat, just went in there, didn't do anything crazy, right?
• 45:56
  Like there was nothing crazy, but he and Tommy Condell worked together for two years in Ottawa.
• 46:02
  He's played with Michael Shea before, he's played with the bombers, but he's played with Brady before, and it was just it was seamless.
• 46:08
  It was seamless.
• 46:10
  It looked like he had been there the whole time.
• 46:12
  And I just was so happy for him, considering how this year has gone for him.
• 46:17
  and his family came out down from Ottawa to see him play.
• 46:20
  And he's and there's no he's like in the postgame, he's like, I always play better when my family are here to see me.
• 46:25
  And he was just like really gracious in that interview.
• 46:27
  Not like a stick it to the team.
• 46:29
  He was very gracious and what a great guy, and I'm really happy for him.
• 46:34
  Smiles are turning to the faces.
• 46:36
  Way you go, Drew Brown.
• 46:38
  Yeah, just
• 46:40
  Just more salt in the wound.
• 46:41
  media person is just like the sassiest and most amazing human.
• 46:46
  I want to meet them in real life.
• 46:48
  Yes.
• 46:49
  yes.
• 46:50
  More salt in the wound for red black fans, unfortunately.
• 46:53
  Okay, but let's jump on now to where would we be at?
• 46:56
  This would be the Saturday game, which um I imagine if any of you were recording and watching it ri later, you ran into the same issue I had, which was TSN decided at the last
• 47:08
  minute to bump it off the channel that it was set to record on and
• 47:13
  At a World Cup game which was already playing on two other TSN channels.
• 47:17
  So
• 47:17
  Can it needs to be on all twenty TSN channels.
• 47:24
  What was that?
• 47:24
  That was that the England game?
• 47:26
  social media after that some people were complaining, others were going, just change the channel.
• 47:31
  Well, it's not so easy to change the channel if you're not there if you've got it recorded for later.
• 47:35
  So I luckily I I tried to go in about half an hour or forty minutes late and it was wasn't on there.
• 47:43
  I got to the proper channel it was on and so I only missed the first quarter.
• 47:47
  Uh, which included some good plays from what the highlights looked like.
• 47:51
  But basically Montreal had come off a bye and used their time well.
• 47:56
  They had trick plays all over the place, including a lateral that was then a pass for a touchdown and a flea flicker and bunch other stuff.
• 48:06
  Close game.
• 48:07
  Calgary thirty, Montreal thirty seven, and Calgary came close to coming back at the end of the game and made it um
• 48:14
  made it a a a very close thing.
• 48:17
  So let's maybe uh GT, your your team, you tell us what how much of what you saw and what your your thoughts were.
• 48:26
  Okay, well I decided because it was a beautiful day and I got talked into it to go for a walk, I'll watch the recording later.
• 48:35
  So I get home, I have all settled in to turn it on, and it's like what is this?
• 48:41
  What is going on?
• 48:42
  Forty minutes of nonsense.
• 48:44
  That is called, you know, whatever game it's called.
• 48:48
  And then then finally they cut into the into the Stampeders game and it was a bad game from the Stampeders.
• 48:54
  They didn't play well.
• 48:55
  The go the score flattered them.
• 48:57
  in the end they made it close, but uh but that that flattered them.
• 49:00
  And then in the last three minutes, when it was close and they were driving and they were down two touchdowns, because the recording that my brother in law had made for me, because
• 49:11
  I don't record, I squelch off of his recordings.
• 49:14
  because whatever the soccer went so long, they cut off the last three and a half minutes of the recording.
• 49:20
  So I didn't even get to see the end of the game either.
• 49:23
  So yeah, it was an unmitigated disaster as a Stampeder fan trying to watch that game in my basement.
• 49:29
  from you know the from the recording issues to their own issues, it was not fun.
• 49:34
  but what I did see of the game, I will say this they played badly, they didn't deserve to win, they made enough mistakes.
• 49:41
  They were behind the entire time.
• 49:43
  Montreal played an unbelievably smart game uh and seemed to be doing everything right.
• 49:49
  The Stampeders seemed to have no answers when Montreal, whenever they got close, Montreal just did what they needed to do to uh to get back in the lead and stay there.
• 49:59
  there was one play, the Awe play where he laid hit on VA.
• 50:04
  That was ridiculous by Away.
• 50:06
  That was a Late hit.
• 50:07
  And then for that.
• 50:08
  a a lineman to get that extra fifteen yards that or twenty five that was a weakest call I've seen in long time.
• 50:15
  He didn't do anything egregious.
• 50:17
  He just went out and and sort of gave Awe a little push at best.
• 50:21
  I mean that was a bad call.
• 50:23
  And I hope that there's if there's a protest that you can lodge against the league for bad calls, I hope the Stampeders did because that was a pretty significant play.
• 50:32
  they managed I think they managed a field goal out of it, but they certainly were driving and that would have given them some momentum on a legitimate, you know, after the whistle
• 50:41
  hit by Awe That's what he's known for over the years.
• 50:43
  That's exactly what he's done.
• 50:45
  So you know, that I just was ticked about that too.
• 50:48
  by the end of the game I was like, whatever.
• 50:50
  Whatever.
• 50:51
  But they did it but I will say they did not deserve to win.
• 50:55
  So better luck this week.
• 50:58
  I feel if we're gonna hand out disqualifications for rough play, that should be a disqualification for rough play.
• 51:05
  that hit Awe gave on VA.
• 51:07
  Why is that not a disqualification?
• 51:09
  when I saw it live I thought Awe was trying to turn sideways and get out of the way and got and basically got hammered into him by another one of the alouettes.
• 51:20
  But then on the replay, no.
• 51:21
  He came in and delivered a shoulder to the head and then turned sideways.
• 51:26
  So yeah, that was that should have a a f a fine with it and and whatnot.
• 51:31
  I will say on Demmerree though
• 51:33
  Whether you agree with it or not, and it it might have been a a soft penalty, but to me that's another selfish one.
• 51:41
  Yeah, you're supposed to protect your quarterback, but in a game that's right towards the end, you're fighting to get back into it, don't leave it in the refs' hands to give them a
• 51:50
  reason to throw the flag.
• 51:51
  You've just picked up an extra fifteen yards and and increased your chances quite a bit, so
• 51:56
  No, no, I sor sorry, I disagree.
• 51:58
  I'm sorry, that's just a weak call that shouldn't have been called because that like what is yeah, I mean so and so you're saying that you don't come to your guy's rescue?
• 52:07
  Like that's just no, I'm sorry.
• 52:09
  It's and it's not a macho thing.
• 52:10
  It simply is you've got to do that.
• 52:13
  You've got to show up.
• 52:14
  Somebody has to show up.
• 52:16
  Somebody has to show up.
• 52:18
  otherwise it invite invites head hunting.
• 52:21
  Well, they they took a fifteen yard penalty.
• 52:24
  The league is doing what it's doing to take that stuff out.
• 52:26
  You're not gonna change it by going after somebody.
• 52:29
  It's just selfish.
• 52:31
  it is.
• 52:31
  You why give the refs a chance?
• 52:34
  this game also had a hands to the face call that took away a touchdown that I was like, mm, I feel like these get done all the time that don't get called, so I don't know.
• 52:44
  If oh old man, if he had come out, if he'd if Demory had come out and d and swung a punch at Awe or had done something, you know, out you know that was egg like really bad or even
• 52:54
  given him a a two-handed vicious shove or something like that, but he didn't do any of that.
• 53:00
  It was just like it was like, yeah, that's a that's a football reaction.
• 53:04
  I mean, that's that's let him play on.
• 53:06
  That's a play on.
• 53:07
  That's all it is.
• 53:09
  there there were four other offensive linemen that did not do that, that held their held their cool.
• 53:15
  No, they shouldn't.
• 53:16
  has to c yeah, no, somebody has to stand up for that stuff.
• 53:19
  Yeah.
• 53:19
  Sorry.
• 53:20
  Somebody has to stand up for that.
• 53:21
  I would much rather take a chance to win than feeling good about the got showing I got my quarterbacks back.
• 53:27
  You know, it's the timing.
• 53:29
  In the middle of the first quarter, yeah, go ahead.
• 53:32
  But when you're you're down by two scores and you're fighting for every yard to try and get into it again, giving up fifteen is just makes no sense.
• 53:40
  it wasn't
• 53:40
  it was a really soft call by the officials.
• 53:43
  Really soft.
• 53:45
  given the circumstances, I thought it was really soft.
• 53:49
  I just think like a hit like that could have just taken VA out for the season.
• 53:53
  Yes.
• 53:54
  Yeah, I agree with that.
• 53:55
  And the the officials have to
• 53:57
  you react appropriately and I dunno.
• 54:00
  I don't know.
• 54:00
  I and I think it's because of who it was as well.
• 54:03
  It's because of who hit him.
• 54:05
  oh
• 54:07
  the thing is that they had shown earlier in the game that they were calling the game fairly tight.
• 54:12
  So you gotta think about that.
• 54:13
  I personally I didn't think the officiating was great in either of the last two games of the week.
• 54:17
  So there's there.
• 54:19
  But anyway, let's not get bogged down in that.
• 54:22
  one of the nicest plays by a defensive lineman I've seen all year was Mustafa Johnson on a stunt that came from defensive tackle outside to have outside contain and still got his
• 54:33
  sack on it.
• 54:33
  That was that was a brilliant play.
• 54:35
  And um and like I said,
• 54:37
  They were calling a lot of penalties.
• 54:39
  Calgary had eleven of them for one hundred thirteen yards and Montreal had twelve for ninety five yards.
• 54:44
  It it's Stampede Week.
• 54:45
  It was Saturday night.
• 54:47
  It was moving into the rodeo finals.
• 54:49
  So that is what was on TV when I was trying to watch this game and I was at someone else's house and so checked the scores, but watch some of the highlights, but that was about it.
• 55:01
  Um but I love this from Dave Dickinson.
• 55:04
  we get another chance at them next week.
• 55:07
  I just want to be better.
• 55:09
  that was really nice to hear from Dave Dickinson.
• 55:11
  you want a winning team, you want a winning culture.
• 55:14
  you get close, you had a bad game, you came close even though it was a bad game, you meet them again next week, how do you talk about your team in the media?
• 55:23
  I I just want to be better.
• 55:24
  Didn't call anyone out, and I thought, well done Dave Dickinson.
• 55:28
  Sometimes I get mad at him for his rants, but I thought, okay, I liked that.
• 55:33
  Yeah.
• 55:33
  good point.
• 55:34
  be better.
• 55:35
  Well, the the other thing that I thought showed up in this game was again, winning teams have depth and we saw that from Montreal Ento was out at the corner, they had Callus in
• 55:44
  for for him, and I thought he played a whale of a game.
• 55:48
  so you know, there's that.
• 55:49
  And then the the last thing that I took note of was the fact that McAllister came very close to returning another punt to the house.
• 55:56
  And then the punter fought off a block and made the tackle.
• 56:00
  I didn't think punters were allowed to do that.
• 56:05
  Didn't they just get mad at a punter last last week for not?
• 56:09
  Oh Ottawa, sorry Ottawa.
• 56:12
  Just keep adding logs onto my fire.
• 56:14
  too easy.
• 56:15
  Oh.
• 56:16
  We're gonna lose any red black fan viewers we have, but hey, it's it's not easy being a fan at the best of times.
• 56:21
  a great game for the Lightblocks.
• 56:24
  TSN really hyped up the thing for calling it the Phil Pot Bowl.
• 56:28
  And they had a Philpot tracker for like yards and touchdowns and catches.
• 56:33
  And Jalen did not live up to it at all.
• 56:36
  Their mom was there, and she had a half Alouettes half Stampeders jersey on.
• 56:42
  They kept showing her in the stance.
• 56:44
  It was cute.
• 56:46
  There was a was it okay, I couldn't I I saw it and I was on my way to the basketball, so then I couldn't find it again because unlike anyone else here, I don't have cable, so I
• 56:56
  can't go anyway.
• 56:57
  There was, I believe it was a special teams tackle on the sideline, and then the Alawite guy like ran off the side, after the tackle, ran to the side, sat on the bench and just
• 57:07
  crossed his legs and leaned back on the bench.
• 57:11
  I missed that.
• 57:12
  I think it was during when you guys were watching FIFA, but it was it was in the first quarter.
• 57:18
  I wish I remembered who it was because it was fun.
• 57:20
  It's fun to have fun and it was very sassy.
• 57:22
  And I was like, this is a Montreal Alouettes team.
• 57:24
  yeah, and uh two two little notes of one is Alexander able to have a hamstring transplant because it looks like he was grabbing his hamstring again.
• 57:34
  Yeah.
• 57:36
  I like every Alouette fan of the world must just like just be cringing every time he even puts his hand near his leg.
• 57:44
  So and then um I'm just wondering if the Ti-cats can trade Sneed to start for us this week at QB because he looked pretty good.
• 57:56
  Arm's okay his arm looked pretty good
• 57:59
  Ha ha.
• 58:00
  I th I think they're one they're one to beat, right?
• 58:04
  They are
• 58:04
  unless except for Alexander's hamstring.
• 58:07
  That is their Achilles heel, if you will.
• 58:10
  Everything rides on that one hamstring.
• 58:13
  it's scary every time he reaches for it, but they say it's all fine, nothing to see here.
• 58:18
  Yeah.
• 58:21
  Well he had to go to the sideline at one point, but then he was and they thought he might have to take a few plays off, but he was right back in.
• 58:28
  Yeah.
• 58:28
  Well they sent him into the room.
• 58:30
  They I guess they don't have the tent at Montreal 'cause the room is just off the sidelines.
• 58:34
  They sent him into the room at the start of a defensive series for them after he grabbed at it and then he was out for the next series, so whatever they did.
• 58:43
  If if his hamstring is wrecked again, Toronto will be top of the East and there will be a there'll be a crossover and there'll probably be a West West Great Cup final.
• 58:56
  It's it's possible.
• 58:58
  But
• 58:59
  Grey Cup the last crossover playoffs of the of the CFL history, we're gonna have a West West Grey Cup.
• 59:07
  Yeah, that would that would be a fitting way to end a hundred and some years of tradition.
• 59:11
  What better CFL chaos than that?
• 59:15
  Hopefully his hamstring is fine though, because he's a dynamic player who I really enjoy watching.
• 59:19
  Cause and Philpott's also really hoping that his hamstring is fine.
• 59:27
  Yeah.
• 59:28
  Now um this next one, MJ and MJ two, if you want to cover your ears for this segment, I will understand, 'cause we've gotta talk about the Sunday game.
• 59:37
  That was Hamilton going into Regina scoring seven points to Saskatchewan's thirty eight.
• 59:44
  And frankly, the the Tycats defense played a very good first half.
• 59:49
  They they kept them
• 59:51
  Kept the game somewhat close and gave them a chance, but they were just they were on the field too much and couldn't make up for the offensive mistakes, including a bunch of
• 1:00:00
  turnovers then in the fourth quarter it just blew up.
• 1:00:03
  And again, I think it was like twenty points by Saskatchewan in the the fourth quarter.
• 1:00:07
  So I'm gonna go to you, MJ.
• 1:00:10
  Let you vent first.
• 1:00:12
  Thoughts on it?
• 1:00:13
  friends, it was like a 1 1 score there for a while.
• 1:00:17
  The the Stuart Johnson's favorite score, and then it was 4 4 for a while.
• 1:00:24
  Another favorite CFL score of mine, and it was close till the half, and then Hamilton did not score a single point after halftime.
• 1:00:34
  Not a single one.
• 1:00:35
  mercilessly Oh my mom and dad were here, so we had the TV on in the background and my mom's just like just don't look.
• 1:00:41
  I'm like, okay.
• 1:00:42
  so they again, a situation where you have good special teams, good defense.
• 1:00:48
  receivers who are usually good and a bad quarterback.
• 1:00:52
  they ran round tree nine times for thirty six yards with a
• 1:00:58
  Rookie-ish quarterback in Jake Dolagala, who had 122 yards, but then they had a interception return for a touchdown for 107 yards.
• 1:01:08
  So what's 122 minus 107?
• 1:01:10
  That is his net yardage for the game.
• 1:01:12
  It's kind of like that Chris Straveler game, except for Chris won it.
• 1:01:15
  I will jump in quickly and say that was also the world's slowest pick six return
• 1:01:21
  Everyone was so tired.
• 1:01:22
  It was so hot there.
• 1:01:23
  They were frying an egg in a frying pan on field level because it was like 50 degrees on the tarmac there.
• 1:01:28
  oh if you're a Ty Cat deep on the defense and you have been out playing in 45 to 50 degree weather all game, like of course you're gonna fade out.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah
• 1:01:42
  just before you go on, I'll also say Woods, the weak side linebacker that got that interception return.
• 1:01:48
  And he wouldn't have got in the end zone.
• 1:01:50
  He was gonna get caught except Jameer Thurman got back and made a a very nice and a very smart block.
• 1:01:56
  He didn't come flying in and get a crackback block called against him for leveling a big hit.
• 1:02:01
  He just
• 1:02:02
  Got back and got in the way of whoever it was that was getting close.
• 1:02:05
  So that was I like seeing smart plays like that.
• 1:02:10
  Carry on.
• 1:02:10
  yeah, so they had Dolagala doing short yardage, which I understand he's their short yardage QB, but I like I this I'm like, well this is a dangerous game to play.
• 1:02:19
  and then if you had scored zero after the third, why are you not putting your second quarterback in?
• 1:02:24
  Why?
• 1:02:25
  Why Scott Milanovich?
• 1:02:27
  Dalagala started that, other than that we talked about it last week.
• 1:02:31
  like Scott okay, I was told like there the TyCat's website says Jared Baines is the OC, but all I saw was Scott on his CB radio making play calls.
• 1:02:41
  So I was like, is Scott calling this game or is Jared calling this game?
• 1:02:46
  Something rotten is going on in the state of Hamilton.
• 1:02:49
  Like there's something
• 1:02:50
  about.
• 1:02:51
  Yes, there's something something weird going on.
• 1:02:53
  Um, like just like a micromanager who cannot delegate responsibility effectively, I think is Scott's issue.
• 1:02:59
  and then Keandre Smith, they interviewed him after the game.
• 1:03:03
  And he said that it was not Jake's fault in that they played so badly.
• 1:03:07
  He said that they have he's like, I don't want to hear anything about Jake, I don't want to hear anything about our defense or special teams.
• 1:03:12
  It is on our receivers.
• 1:03:13
  We dropped eight or nine passes that were catchable.
• 1:03:16
  That's on the receiving cord, that's on me, and that's on the rest of our receiving group, and it will not happen next week.
• 1:03:21
  So I was like, thank you, Keandri.
• 1:03:23
  I appreciated that.
• 1:03:25
  yeah, that was absolutely on the receivers.
• 1:03:27
  how can you have a receiver out there who doesn't have a six foot vertical to get up and catch those balls that Dalagala was throwing?
• 1:03:33
  'Cause Yes.
• 1:03:37
  yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  looked like he had been playing in a while, but but I but also I I like yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Jay and I were texting about this today.
• 1:03:46
  Like why why?
• 1:03:48
  Why are you starting him?
• 1:03:50
  like if you've got someone that knows the team, has been with the team, been practicing with the team, um, and was dazzling, dazzling.
• 1:03:59
  it just
• 1:04:00
  And I get that maybe that's not how you've decided the vision for your team for this year.
• 1:04:05
  That is not how you've decided you want your team to look, but that's who you have.
• 1:04:10
  Um, that's who has playing experience.
• 1:04:13
  So how do you not work with what you have instead of um shaking that bag of former quarterbacks and
• 1:04:20
  Who do we have?
• 1:04:21
  Oh great.
• 1:04:21
  Um that's what it seemed I mean, I know that's not what happened.
• 1:04:25
  But as a Ty Cat fan, it just is really I think so frustrating to know that you've got Tre Ford just sitting there doing what?
• 1:04:36
  Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  At what point are you sending Ford in?
• 1:04:41
  Like has to be better.
• 1:04:42
  Has to.
• 1:04:43
  be in the last two minutes.
• 1:04:45
  No.
• 1:04:46
  That that that makes no sense at all.
• 1:04:48
  And and I didn't get it from the first in the first place.
• 1:04:53
  I posted on Reddit last week.
• 1:04:55
  I said to me this is like
• 1:04:57
  you're a racing team, and the Bagatti gets broke.
• 1:05:01
  So well, we've got this Ferrari we've got in the offseason, but I don't really know how to drive that.
• 1:05:06
  So I'm gonna go to the Ford Tempo.
• 1:05:08
  change your offense and make use of what Trey does.
• 1:05:11
  starts you remember how when we were talking this year I'm like the G T Ticats have decided not to have a GM we're going to GM by committee this year and I think this is the
• 1:05:21
  this is the fallout of that because Bo when Bo's in this all fragile ecosystem like it stays okay but as soon as one piece drops out it's completely crumbled and there's nobody
• 1:05:33
  that is able to mitigate damage and no one able to play Drew Brown went and won a game with a team he hasn't played for in
• 1:05:40
  Yep.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah.
• 1:05:42
  it's just really frustrating 'cause they put together a a good team.
• 1:05:44
  So don't tell me you can't play call for another QB.
• 1:05:47
  Like don't tell me that.
• 1:05:49
  But you know what, Scott, you are not a good coach.
• 1:05:52
  Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Yeah, you p you design your offense or your your plays for the the players' talents.
• 1:05:57
  if you are someone who builds an offense and then says, I'm gonna get the players to plug in and make it work, you have a hard time adapting to to changes.
• 1:06:05
  we sound really salty, but this is not the first go-around of this kind of nonsense for Ti cats.
• 1:06:12
  This is we well I mean we have been through a lot.
• 1:06:15
  I know some a RedBlack fan was complaining to me, and I'm like, look it.
• 1:06:18
  If you wanna start like going shot for shot on who's got it worse, I don't want to compare because, but like this has been a long haul.
• 1:06:27
  Like we'd like watch Kent Austin.
• 1:06:30
  And we watched Ron Lancaster just like standing on the sideline having no idea what to do with anyone.
• 1:06:35
  I watched receivers yelling at Danny McManus.
• 1:06:38
  I watched a dual Jeremiah Mazzoli-Dane Evans.
• 1:06:41
  I watched them trade Jeremiah Mazzoli away.
• 1:06:44
  I did not resign him.
• 1:06:45
  I we have watched a lot.
• 1:06:47
  And finally they they Bo came in, they benched him.
• 1:06:50
  And though finally, finally something good has happened.
• 1:06:54
  And they just completely ruined it again.
• 1:06:57
  Anyway.
• 1:07:00
  Welcome to my sorry for my other therapy session, but that will be better next week.
• 1:07:04
  I'm I'm sure there's one or two other Hamilton fans out there listening who who probably agree with you.
• 1:07:10
  I
• 1:07:10
  talk why there's not a lot of Thai cat attendance this year?
• 1:07:13
  it's not random.
• 1:07:15
  This is brewing for a long time.
• 1:07:17
  Which is so unfortunate because you have so many um I don't know dynamic players.
• 1:07:22
  You have the opportunities there and you're not being coached properly and I feel like yeah, at what point do you start making changes and clearly they've chosen not to.
• 1:07:34
  And I think that's the most frustrating.
• 1:07:36
  Be interesting to see what they do next week.
• 1:07:38
  And if you are out there listening or watching and you're a Hamilton fan, please let us know what you think.
• 1:07:42
  Do you agree with us here or or not?
• 1:07:45
  GT, you've been very quiet through all of this.
• 1:07:48
  Well, there's not much to say that you guys haven't already said.
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  Jake Oligo Jake Dolagala proved why he's a uh short yardage quarterback, because that's what he is.
• 1:07:56
  he proved that he why he's gone through three teams and ended up and even we thought why is he even there as the third string guy at one point.
• 1:08:05
  So they just gave him a game to prove it.
• 1:08:08
  if they can't understand that that's what he is after that game.
• 1:08:11
  then they're worse off than we thought they were, and I agree with everything you guys have said so far.
• 1:08:17
  Saskatchewan, like, they hung in for three quarters and then but then the and it wasn't their defense and it wasn't their receivers and it wasn't their special teams.
• 1:08:27
  It was their quarterback throwing interceptions late in the game.
• 1:08:30
  And Saskatchewan feasted on their on their quarterback and and I'll say Saskatchewan didn't look great.
• 1:08:36
  And it'll reflect in our power rankings later.
• 1:08:38
  That's the third game in a row.
• 1:08:39
  I thought Saskatchewan looked pretty bad.
• 1:08:41
  And and they they were then they got a fourth quarter where, you know, Dola Gala looked worse and they took it full advantage of it.
• 1:08:50
  So yeah, I wasn't you know, I watched that game again on speed dial, but I watched it through, you know, slow speed speed dial, and it wasn't it wasn't an impressive game and
• 1:09:00
  it was and it was yeah, mistakes and if they're not gonna go to Trey Ford.
• 1:09:05
  We've talked about it and talked about it and talked about it.
• 1:09:07
  It's the stuff that we've just, you know, like we said earlier about the Argo situation and so on.
• 1:09:12
  This stuff is what we've been talking about since January.
• 1:09:15
  and now the word's showing up again and you just shake your head and go, Why?
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  Why is it still happening?
• 1:09:21
  Why you know, as you guys have said, like they they ha they went out and signed Trey Ford.
• 1:09:27
  They knew what they had.
• 1:09:28
  They signed him, they spent money on him, they made him their second string quarterback for a reason.
• 1:09:33
  And they talked about how everything was gonna be great, and then they've already thrown them out and thrown them under the bus and signed four other guys.
• 1:09:41
  So come on.
• 1:09:43
  It's just like what was the whole point then?
• 1:09:45
  What was the point?
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  if I was a Thai Cap fan, I'd be right where you guys are.
• 1:09:50
  Just like unbelievably pissed off.
• 1:09:52
  If you're Trey Ford, like when do you walk away from this?
• 1:09:57
  At what point is this this is no longer fun.
• 1:10:00
  like I mean he checked out in Edmonton and we know that he did because why wouldn't he have checked out in Edmonton?
• 1:10:06
  Well now is he ch already checking out in Hamilton and why wouldn't you?
• 1:10:11
  If they don't start him this week but and they haven't announced, but if they start Jake Dolagala again after that, why?
• 1:10:18
  Yep.
• 1:10:18
  was it UGT who's like I hope Trey ends up in and Calgary behind VA Yeah.
• 1:10:23
  Yes.
• 1:10:25
  Because it's the right spot
• 1:10:26
  on the right team with the right offense and the right quarterback coach to be able to get the best out of him and maybe just maybe get him back in the on the right path.
• 1:10:35
  but I will say this.
• 1:10:37
  there may be something there that we just don't see from the outside that Trey might just have an issue.
• 1:10:45
  that we're not aware of because this is not the first rodeo where he's been sat down for lesser quality guys.
• 1:10:52
  So there is something to be said here that's lurking in the background.
• 1:10:56
  if he if they can't have a conversation between him and Milanovich and say, here's what we need you to do and okay I'm willing to do that, then both of them are at fault and there's
• 1:11:06
  something going on and they need to figure that out.
• 1:11:08
  uh but at from the outside first blushes
• 1:11:12
  It's on the team, not on him.
• 1:11:14
  on a slightly different topic, I mentioned during when we were talking about the last game, I wasn't impressed with the officiating in this game either.
• 1:11:20
  And it's not a the you know, the officiating was bad for one team.
• 1:11:24
  It was for both.
• 1:11:25
  And there were things like to my mind, any time that either team got to within about two yards of a first down, they got very generous spots that
• 1:11:37
  shortened up the distance they had to make and that that was consistent through both teams There was a an interference or a possible interference that didn't get called against
• 1:11:47
  Hamilton.
• 1:11:48
  Saskatchewan challenged it.
• 1:11:49
  There was early contact.
• 1:11:50
  It was close.
• 1:11:51
  The replay center said, We're not overturning the call.
• 1:11:55
  There's no PI.
• 1:11:56
  Okay, I'm good with that.
• 1:11:57
  If that's how you're calling it.
• 1:11:58
  Then later in the game
• 1:12:00
  They call Peters from on the other side for Hamilton on a PI that was was not as bad as the first one.
• 1:12:07
  there was there was no consistency to it whatsoever and that's frustrating.
• 1:12:12
  And then the last thing was unfortunately after the Riders Letcher and put in Sexton, who was a heck of a good returner and looked very good.
• 1:12:20
  He got hurt badly and they took him off with his egg leg in an air cast.
• 1:12:24
  And then late in the game, Catsantonis came charging down on Johnson and bumped him out of the way for a nice interception, but hurt himself in that.
• 1:12:34
  And I don't know I didn't see him come back into the game.
• 1:12:37
  I hope he's not out for a length of time 'cause they cannot afford to lose out on defense.
• 1:12:42
  Well you know what?
• 1:12:42
  We're already one win ahead of our one in seventeen season, so it's already a victory, really.
• 1:12:47
  there's that, yeah.
• 1:12:49
  And and then the last thing was a lot of people were raving about Tommy Stevens going in to run out the game and ripping off a couple of fifteen, twenty yard runs to take it in
• 1:12:58
  for a touchdown.
• 1:13:00
  I'm sorry.
• 1:13:01
  I love Tommy's play.
• 1:13:02
  I love what he does.
• 1:13:03
  That had less to do with him and more to do with a bunch of defenders going, We're down by over thirty points, and there's
• 1:13:09
  fifty degrees out.
• 1:13:11
  Two
• 1:13:11
  a d business decision.
• 1:13:12
  I'm not getting in his way.
• 1:13:15
  I am here for my paycheck now.
• 1:13:16
  Thank you.
• 1:13:17
  well not even necessarily for the paycheck, but it's just it wouldn't be smart.
• 1:13:21
  you'd be hurting the team getting hurt in that situation.
• 1:13:24
  So that does take us to the power rankings.
• 1:13:29
  GT Barnum's CFL Outsiders Week 6 Power Rankings.
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  Go!
• 1:13:35
  Alright, so we have a new number one.
• 1:13:37
  So finally so so finally so finally the Elks finally the Elks get their due and they're coming in at number one.
• 1:13:44
  Um they won.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, uh they're they're they're w th they continue to win.
• 1:13:52
  They it looked like from everything that I read, because as I didn't s as I said, I didn't see the game, everything I read, they took care of business.
• 1:13:59
  And it wasn't so much that Ottawa they just did what they needed to do to and
• 1:14:04
  and won the game, which they should have.
• 1:14:06
  So they are number one.
• 1:14:07
  Montreal is number two.
• 1:14:09
  Uh Montreal is uh looking like a team that we thought they would look like.
• 1:14:13
  And they are their defense is playing very well.
• 1:14:17
  their offense is clicking and that was some tremendous play calling on their behalf, as you said.
• 1:14:22
  So I will put them at number two.
• 1:14:24
  Saskatchewan slides to number three because well they won.
• 1:14:27
  I didn't think they look terrific and they haven't looked terrific for the last three weeks, it was more because of Hamilton's bad play than their great play.
• 1:14:34
  So I will give them that.
• 1:14:36
  Winnipeg moves up to number four this week because they won and because they look good and because last week I said they could be flipping around depending on their play this week,
• 1:14:46
  and sure enough they did that.
• 1:14:47
  So I will put them in at number four.
• 1:14:49
  I have number five and I have Calgary at number five.
• 1:14:53
  and then BC at number six, but those two are in a toss-up as to where they could be after this week's games very easily.
• 1:15:00
  And then the last three I think are kind of self-explanatory.
• 1:15:03
  Toronto at number seven, Hamilton at number eight, and Ottawa at number nine.
• 1:15:08
  so Toronto could move around again depending on their game this week.
• 1:15:11
  They look good, and then in the last two weeks they've been exposed in some ways.
• 1:15:15
  So this game will prove some of uh whether they can bounce back.
• 1:15:19
  But they are playing a team with no quarterbacking, or at least a team without a quarterback that has any confidence from his coach.
• 1:15:27
  I gotta say there's nothing there that I disagree with and at least one of the folks on Reddit will be happy 'cause they were they were quite ticked off that you had BC higher
• 1:15:37
  than Winnipeg last week, calling it disrespectful.
• 1:15:40
  So they'll be happy to see Winnipeg back up there now.
• 1:15:43
  Unfortunately I didn't take down the name of who it was, but oops, and there goes there goes GT again.
• 1:15:49
  explained, that's why I put them down where they were.
• 1:15:51
  So now that we know that Drew Bound yeah, you know, the arm is okay.
• 1:15:55
  We will uh we will put back where they belong to be.
• 1:15:58
  So
• 1:15:59
  I guess that could switch eight, nine, battle of the basement.
• 1:16:03
  We have two wins.
• 1:16:05
  But th their defense, like I said, look good, but it's hard to hold a team to six points, which is apparently what they they would need to do.
• 1:16:15
  Ottawa has a good defense.
• 1:16:16
  This is this is
• 1:16:18
  this is gonna come down to coaching and how you get your players responding to a new quarterback, Hamilton.
• 1:16:24
  outplay Dola Gala Ford?
• 1:16:27
  Who would have thought?
• 1:16:30
  Sorry, that's rude maybe, but
• 1:16:33
  I
• 1:16:33
  I just don't understand this like incessant thing because if anyone notices like pocket passes are a dying breed.
• 1:16:41
  There's no one really pocket passing anymore that's coming up, so why you have to live and die by pocket passing is beyond me, but we're just saying you might have Hamilton too
• 1:16:51
  high.
• 1:16:51
  Well, at least as I say, they still have two wins and Ottawa, even though even even though uh they have a quarterback that they have supposedly have faith in, they haven't proved
• 1:17:01
  that it's justified.
• 1:17:02
  So so that's the reason they're there.
• 1:17:04
  The other thing that that we didn't really mention when we talked about the game and I thought you might put into the power rankings with the riders is their kicking situation.
• 1:17:13
  I'm I'm concerned about it.
• 1:17:15
  Hale maybe he turns into a good kicker, but he's sure struggling early here.
• 1:17:20
  They passed up two field goal attempts in that game.
• 1:17:23
  One of them worked out well.
• 1:17:24
  The punter put it out on the three yard line.
• 1:17:26
  The other one he punted it through the end zone.
• 1:17:28
  They they were on the forty five.
• 1:17:30
  They punted and it went through the end zone and and Hamilton got the ball on the forty.
• 1:17:34
  So a net five yardage on a punt without the ball being touched.
• 1:17:38
  That's that's kind of scary.
• 1:17:41
  I I'm worried about that.
• 1:17:42
  All right, um injury reports.
• 1:17:46
  We've only got the Tuesday practices, so it's not much.
• 1:17:49
  BC didn't really have anyone of note, but they did have ten players listed as limited.
• 1:17:55
  Nobody was did not participate, but they had ten limited players.
• 1:17:58
  Edmonton, there was some trouble on the the O line and D line, Beard and on the from center and Jordan Williams from the D line.
• 1:18:06
  were did not participate, and so was Verde, who they picked up after Saskatchewan released him at linebacker.
• 1:18:12
  And Metchie was limited.
• 1:18:13
  Calgary, two of the receivers, did not participate.
• 1:18:16
  Brooks and Jones were DNP and Grant from the backfield defensive backfield was still did not participate.
• 1:18:24
  I think he's out for a while, but he's not on the sixth game list.
• 1:18:27
  Yeah, Brooks and Jones were both illness though, so that's a cold or a little bit that's just, you know, they'll give whatever they need, anti histamines and you know, nightwill
• 1:18:36
  up and ready to go.
• 1:18:38
  Yeah.
• 1:18:39
  Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Yeah, that could be yeah, I I should have looked at what the it was.
• 1:18:44
  I didn't look at that.
• 1:18:44
  That would make sense.
• 1:18:45
  So so that's better for for Calgary's hopes then yeah.
• 1:18:49
  was posting like photos from k the cowboys tent, so you just know where those boys were at.
• 1:18:55
  oh
• 1:18:57
  a year.
• 1:18:59
  Yeah.
• 1:18:59
  Toronto, Janerian Grant was did not participate, and so was the Punter Haggerty and Ojo from the D line.
• 1:19:06
  And Cesar, who's been playing very well at halfback for them this year.
• 1:19:10
  He's uh a new player.
• 1:19:11
  He's looked really good.
• 1:19:12
  Him and Coxie were both limited.
• 1:19:14
  So whatever that's worth.
• 1:19:16
  And the other four.
• 1:19:17
  Hamilton, Winw Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Montreal
• 1:19:19
  Have not practiced yet Saskatchewan's on the bye.
• 1:19:22
  So
• 1:19:23
  Yeah, the the one that the one that was interesting there, the only other one that was interesting there was the the Josh Hagerty thing in Toronto because they also made a
• 1:19:31
  trade.
• 1:19:31
  I don't know if you saw it, but they made a trade with Ottawa for for another global punter, James Burnip.
• 1:19:37
  and they traded an eighth round conditional eighth round pick next year for him.
• 1:19:42
  So Haggerty uh has a hamstring injury, and so that's looking like it could be more than just
• 1:19:49
  you know, a tweak if they made a trade to get another punter in.
• 1:19:53
  Because at first I was like, why would they trade for a punter?
• 1:19:56
  and then it was like, he's got a hamstring injury, so it might be a little worse.
• 1:20:00
  The interesting thing I thought about that, other than because it's a conditional eighth round pick, maybe I don't know maybe do you get nothing then if he doesn't sign?
• 1:20:08
  I you don't even get the eighth round.
• 1:20:10
  I don't know what the condition is.
• 1:20:12
  But it but he's listed as six six and two thirty five as a punter.
• 1:20:17
  That's a big guy kicking a ball.
• 1:20:20
  That's a huge man.
• 1:20:22
  That's Tommy Stevens size, you know.
• 1:20:24
  he's not gonna stand on the sideline and give somebody a wave.
• 1:20:27
  He's gonna go, you know.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:20:32
  I was 'cause Ottawa yeah, I thought like that's interesting from Ottawa as well that after the shenanigans and he might not be here if he doesn't step up comments.
• 1:20:41
  Well they got nobody else now because you just traded him away for an eighth round.
• 1:20:45
  conditional pick.
• 1:20:46
  So anyway, that's I thought the the Haggerty thing from Toronto was was of significance, that injury.
• 1:20:52
  or could be at least.
• 1:20:53
  It could be, yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Or it could be like earlier when Montreal signed Lewis Ward to the practice roster for a couple of weeks, you know, just just in case.
• 1:21:02
  We don't know now.
• 1:21:03
  Okay.
• 1:21:04
  Ward is available.
• 1:21:05
  Should check.
• 1:21:10
  you, the riders, are they phoning up Lewis Ward's agent?
• 1:21:13
  Just just just kicking the tires?
• 1:21:15
  there should be some kickers out there, but I don't know where.
• 1:21:17
  Richard had a really bad first year and now look at him like bending kicks and Castillo, maybe he needs glasses like Castillo.
• 1:21:26
  Castillo got glasses and now he's making all his kicks.
• 1:21:29
  Well Hale wears glasses already, so maybe he needs better glasses.
• 1:21:32
  I don't know.
• 1:21:34
  But uh the riders are also limited in that they pretty much need a global kicker the way they've set up their ratio that's why Lauther I mean he didn't have a great season last
• 1:21:43
  year, but I think that's why he was let go and they decided to to just put both their globals on the kicking s squad.
• 1:21:51
  They should been watching the FIFA World Cup, see who's taking all these penalty kicks.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, all the corner kicks.
• 1:21:58
  All right, let's get on to our game predictions.
• 1:22:00
  BC at Edmonton.
• 1:22:03
  Let's you're in the the upper left corner of my screen, GT start, you get to go first pick.
• 1:22:10
  Hi.
• 1:22:11
  This is a this is a relatively tough one.
• 1:22:13
  but because they played only two weeks ago and BC's coming off a bye and they're feeling the road, so to speak, after that last win against the same team.
• 1:22:24
  but I still think Edmonton's a better team, so I'm gonna take Edmonton.
• 1:22:27
  Okay, MJ?
• 1:22:29
  it's hard to win at home at home.
• 1:22:30
  Um I'm gonna take elks.
• 1:22:32
  Okay, MJ two.
• 1:22:35
  I I'm going Edmonton as well.
• 1:22:36
  yep.
• 1:22:37
  for me there's a real temptation to go B C and it's the hardest I think it's the hardest pick of the week to tell you the truth.
• 1:22:43
  But yeah, I think if you watch the game you find that Cody's got a old style telephone as part one of his security blankets and he'll have that which he didn't have in Kelowna and
• 1:22:55
  and plus yeah, just I don't think it'll be a a huge game for Rankin and
• 1:23:00
  But I do think um that Edmonton will take it.
• 1:23:04
  So we're all we're all on the elk for for that.
• 1:23:08
  And it's bring your dog to the the stadium game.
• 1:23:12
  Yes!
• 1:23:14
  So much fun!
• 1:23:16
  Game to avoid.
• 1:23:17
  right, so then we
• 1:23:18
  Ha
• 1:23:20
  Don't sit in that section if you don't like dogs.
• 1:23:24
  I'm speechless.
• 1:23:27
  I hope they bark when Nathan's trying to throw the ball.
• 1:23:30
  Yeah.
• 1:23:37
  should the only dogs that should be at a football game are catching frisbees at halftime.
• 1:23:35
  do that in Calgary.
• 1:23:36
  That rabbit runs out, there could be a an ugly scene.
• 1:23:39
  Yeah.
• 1:23:40
  I feel like the rabbit made a touchdown
• 1:23:42
  He probably did.
• 1:23:44
  it's it's kinda like herding cats some days here.
• 1:23:49
  Okay, so the next game, another second half of a home and home, a true home and home this one.
• 1:23:56
  Montreal's coming out to Calgary.
• 1:23:57
  Now last week on this one, again I'm gonna let you go first, GT.
• 1:24:01
  Last week you had picked Calgary and said it was going to be a low scoring game.
• 1:24:05
  And I kind of agreed with you on it, and that ended up thirty seven thirty, which
• 1:24:10
  Maybe this year that is low scoring, I don't know.
• 1:24:12
  What do you see happening in Calgary?
• 1:24:15
  I think I'm gonna go with the same thing.
• 1:24:16
  A low scoring game.
• 1:24:18
  Uh feels like it.
• 1:24:19
  I think Calgary's defense wants to play better, so that will impact it.
• 1:24:23
  and I thought VA would just got in his own way last week.
• 1:24:27
  I didn't mention that, but it looked like that game where he's in his own head and trying to do tough too much himself.
• 1:24:32
  So it'll be interesting to see whether he bounces back, whether he can chill and r and get back to those good vibes, as MJ likes to say
• 1:24:39
  at the at this game because he wasn't it didn't look like he was in that space at all last week.
• 1:24:44
  So hopefully he is.
• 1:24:46
  but I'm still gonna take Montreal by, you know, uh in a close game.
• 1:24:50
  I think Montreal's just proving to be that good a team right now.
• 1:24:54
  K MJ two will go with you next.
• 1:24:57
  this is the folk fest game.
• 1:24:59
  This is where last year I got to meet Jason Maas just randomly around.
• 1:25:05
  Um I'm hoping that happens again.
• 1:25:07
  And if it does, Jason Maas please know I will again get a photo with you.
• 1:25:11
  this one was the one that I didn't know, but I'm going to pick Montreal.
• 1:25:15
  They right now seem to me to be unstoppable.
• 1:25:18
  is a tough one because frankly I think the difference in last week's game was the fact that Calgary had to travel across the country and this time it's Montreal doing it, but I
• 1:25:27
  still I still think Montreal did look enough ahead that I'm gonna go with them.
• 1:25:31
  So that leaves you, MJ.
• 1:25:33
  Well, I think Calgary will win, but I'm not picking them because I cannot wear this jersey again.
• 1:25:39
  Sick of it.
• 1:25:39
  Sick of it.
• 1:25:40
  It's like a Philpot jersey, too.
• 1:25:41
  It's just like mocking me.
• 1:25:44
  it's signatures everywhere.
• 1:25:46
  It's just like mocks me.
• 1:25:47
  Mocks me.
• 1:25:48
  I think I think VA will play better.
• 1:25:50
  I think the stamps will play better.
• 1:25:52
  They're at home.
• 1:25:53
  VA seems to really like playing there.
• 1:25:54
  I think they're gonna have a better game.
• 1:25:56
  I am actually very worried about Alexander's hamstring status.
• 1:26:02
  But just just for my own personal life.
• 1:26:06
  And I wanna wear other things, I will be taking the Montreal.
• 1:26:13
  It's a defensive pick.
• 1:26:15
  Yes.
• 1:26:16
  Like Hamilton.
• 1:26:18
  Just like Hamilton, my goodness.
• 1:26:21
  Okay, so we'll let you go first, MJ on the Toronto Hamilton one now.
• 1:26:26
  Is this a home game for Toronto in Hamilton?
• 1:26:30
  Okay.
• 1:26:31
  I know that there was some no me no stuff going on in in Winnipeg and in Saskatchewan.
• 1:26:37
  I think the Hamilton fans that show up are gonna make Chad's life miserable.
• 1:26:42
  And maybe Coxie will have another temper tantrum.
• 1:26:44
  But who is starting for Hamilton?
• 1:26:48
  Is Castinonis still injured?
• 1:26:50
  Because if he is injured and not playing, the defense doesn't play well when he is not playing.
• 1:26:55
  I know Witten McManus is there now, so that is helpful, but they don't play well when Castentonis isn't playing.
• 1:27:00
  my god, I hate this so much.
• 1:27:01
  I'm gonna pick Toronto and I hate myself.
• 1:27:05
  Yes.
• 1:27:05
  I get it.
• 1:27:06
  I do not like picking them either, but if if they do put Ford in there and if Milanovich starts moving to more of an RPO type offense that takes advantage of what he can do, then
• 1:27:18
  maybe Hamilton, but no, based on everything I've seen so far, I've got to go Toronto as well.
• 1:27:24
  So Yeah.
• 1:27:25
  would do an RPO offense, then Hamilton has a good shot at this.
• 1:27:29
  They do not.
• 1:27:30
  They.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah.
• 1:27:32
  So MJ two.
• 1:27:33
  Yeah.
• 1:27:35
  Schultz doing?
• 1:27:36
  Was he the one that that Bob Dice let uh play that game?
• 1:27:39
  'Cause he was retiring?
• 1:27:41
  Well Bob's in Hamilton now.
• 1:27:43
  Bob's in Hamilton now.
• 1:27:44
  Maybe he'll let him play.
• 1:27:46
  I there's
• 1:27:47
  hate picking Toronto but they are the better team going into this week.
• 1:27:51
  So Toronto it is.
• 1:27:53
  Okay, and GT.
• 1:27:54
  So this is Toronto's home game in Hamilton.
• 1:27:58
  It's forty minutes down the road.
• 1:28:01
  They've had two home games in Saskatchewan and Winnipeg were already played, where they managed to sell about thirty thousand tickets in each game.
• 1:28:14
  Very successful in each of those two cities that are thousands of kilometers away.
• 1:28:21
  This is forty minutes down the highway.
• 1:28:24
  It's Tuesday, the game is Saturday, and I still have no idea where my tickets are in Hamilton.
• 1:28:32
  They cannot tell me five days in advance where and when we are going to find out where our season tickets are in Hamilton for this home game forty minutes down the highway.
• 1:28:47
  You talked about things that Toronto does wrong.
• 1:28:50
  This is the biggest thing they've done wrong.
• 1:28:54
  I gave them kudos last week for things they did right and some of the things they do right.
• 1:28:59
  And I like to talk about the things the Argos do right because they get a lot of crap thrown at them.
• 1:29:05
  but this one, no.
• 1:29:07
  There is no excuse in my mind for this game to still, as seasoned ticket holders, as an Argonaut seasoned ticket holder five days before the game, to have not heard from them,
• 1:29:20
  have no idea.
• 1:29:22
  And when I spoke to them a week and a half ago because I didn't have my tickets yet, I said, What's going on?
• 1:29:29
  They sent me back saying, Well, we don't know yet because we're still putting together the master list to send to Hamilton.
• 1:29:36
  And I'm thinking, You're two weeks and you haven't got the master list of season ticket holders that have said they're going to the game or not, they can blame it on us again
• 1:29:47
  because
• 1:29:48
  maybe some season ticket holders did wait until the last minute to tell them they wanted to use the tickets or not.
• 1:29:54
  But they had a firm cutoff date back in May that I answered to, and then they extended three times.
• 1:30:02
  So why did they extend it three times?
• 1:30:05
  And
• 1:30:05
  Are Hamilton fans have to wait before they can buy tickets to this game, 'cause they don't know where they can sit either until the Argo season tickets are allocated for the seats.
• 1:30:15
  So you don't know.
• 1:30:16
  So if you're a boxed J Boy, you could be up in the rafters because I could be sitting there in your seat, but they don't know that yet.
• 1:30:24
  Right.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:30:26
  Yeah, not a chance.
• 1:30:27
  it's just a schmazzle and it's five days before the game.
• 1:30:31
  It's
• 1:30:32
  ridiculous.
• 1:30:33
  This is so unprofessional.
• 1:30:35
  I just I'm sorry.
• 1:30:37
  This this is just it's crazy.
• 1:30:40
  It's just crazy.
• 1:30:41
  And uh, you know
• 1:30:43
  in the Toronto office this year?
• 1:30:46
  I don't know.
• 1:30:46
  This is like they've brought in all these new people, right?
• 1:30:49
  They brought in Hofnegel, they brought in Barker, they added all these people.
• 1:30:53
  That's still football ops.
• 1:30:55
  They like who is doing this?
• 1:30:57
  Like, is this MLS E?
• 1:30:59
  I know their ticket guys are the same guys that run the Leafs the Raptors, uh the TFC, whoever else they have, so maybe they're just overwhelmed.
• 1:31:09
  I don't know.
• 1:31:10
  But it's just ridiculous nonetheless.
• 1:31:12
  Again, it's a slap in the face to the Argo fans that MLSE is just again giving us the gears.
• 1:31:21
  Um so it's it's crazy.
• 1:31:23
  And that's what I will say, and that's what I've been teasing all that I will wanted to get into is this is just ridiculous.
• 1:31:31
  In the meantime, Toronto's gonna win this game because Hamilton has no quarterback.
• 1:31:38
  And at least if they do, they have one who has no confidence from his coach.
• 1:31:42
  just from memory I know that Toronto fans it is such a short hop skip jump over to get to old Iverwin and so
• 1:31:52
  Yeah, like chances are that if last minute tickets are available and Hamilton's not looking great, I wouldn't want to pay money to go see my team lose against the Argos.
• 1:32:03
  Um, so I hope it sells out for the Argonauts and that would be amazing to have that true home field advantage.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah, three weeks ago, Hamilton fans were l were just looking forward to this 'cause they could just give it to the Argos with Bo there and everything else, it was going to be a
• 1:32:20
  great game.
• 1:32:21
  Now, as you say, like yeah, what you know I mean there's not much momentum.
• 1:32:25
  And if the weather's a little rainy or whatever, like it might be, I expect this to be a very badly attended game.
• 1:32:32
  I'm also will expecting
• 1:32:35
  I'd say if I would put out a number, if there's fifteen thousand people there, I'd be surprised.
• 1:32:40
  Ti-cat fans are very petty about the Argos.
• 1:32:42
  how much do the Argos get of ticket sales and like beer and like food sales?
• 1:32:48
  Do we know that?
• 1:32:49
  no idea.
• 1:32:49
  I don't know what they make from the concessions and are they or their games, do they take a cut each or whatever.
• 1:32:55
  I don't know how that works.
• 1:32:56
  you just know there's like some Ti-cat fans in Hamlet that are like, I am not going to that and paying money for a beer that's going to be giving money to the Argos.
• 1:33:05
  Like So I'm hoping some Ark I do hope for yeah.
• 1:33:10
  Yeah, if the weather's a little off as well, it's gonna be like, yeah, no, I'm the Argo and again, you've got to make a decision on two days notice whether you want tickets and
• 1:33:19
  whether you or whether what tickets you're gonna get.
• 1:33:21
  Like y 'cause you don't know.
• 1:33:23
  until the Argo's have they figured out the Argo season tickets, they can't do anything about the general tickets for for the anybody else.
• 1:33:30
  like I say, it's Tuesday, the game's Saturday.
• 1:33:32
  Crazy.
• 1:33:33
  Yes.
• 1:33:33
  hoping I hope for you, GT, that if it's sunny and hot you're sitting on the shady side.
• 1:33:39
  And if it's a bit rainy, then you'll just be sitting under the cover.
• 1:33:42
  And that you have a great time.
• 1:33:45
  I hope you have a great time.
• 1:33:47
  And I hope it's a good game.
• 1:33:49
  I hope you're in the dog, so I can the dog section.
• 1:33:52
  I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a great time.
• 1:33:54
  Yeah, the dog section.
• 1:33:56
  That is it.
• 1:33:56
  Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Yeah, great.
• 1:34:00
  Surrounded by surrounded by little blue plastic bags.
• 1:34:03
  I just look forward to it.
• 1:34:04
  Great.
• 1:34:05
  Uh, before it goes off the rails completely, we're almost done here, so we're gonna let MJ two be
• 1:34:12
  me?
• 1:34:12
  I thought I went did go, yeah, Toronto.
• 1:34:14
  Sorry.
• 1:34:15
  I would had I was gonna write Hamilton down if I hadn't heard from you.
• 1:34:20
  I know.
• 1:34:20
  That's how it is.
• 1:34:24
  and Ottawa.
• 1:34:25
  Winnipeg.
• 1:34:26
  Sorry, Ottawa.
• 1:34:27
  Not sorry.
• 1:34:31
  G T
• 1:34:32
  I saw that Zach may play, but d that Drew Brown is still getting first team reps, and I'm just looking forward to Drew Brown going back in Ottawa.
• 1:34:41
  That's gonna be so delicious.
• 1:34:43
  That is gonna be so much fun.
• 1:34:45
  So yeah, uh yeah, I'm taking Winnipeg by a couple at least.
• 1:34:48
  A couple of touchdowns at least.
• 1:34:50
  Um this is the game I'm looking forward to most this week because I in all my heart I hope Drew Brown goes there and just like I want them to pan to Ryan a lot.
• 1:35:01
  Anytime Drew makes a nice pass, I want them
• 1:35:04
  want I just want them to never leave, Ryan, for the entire game.
• 1:35:08
  Just one camera in the corner.
• 1:35:10
  Yeah.
• 1:35:11
  Yeah.
• 1:35:13
  of like Ryan real time reacting to Drew's touchdown pass.
• 1:35:19
  Yeah.
• 1:35:20
  Cause you know he's 'cause you know he's going forty yards to to Kenny at least once or twice, right?
• 1:35:26
  At least.
• 1:35:27
  This is this is this is the this is the funnest game of the year.
• 1:35:32
  Yeah.
• 1:35:33
  Yeah.
• 1:35:35
  I hope all the Red Black fans are also gonna cheer for Drew Brown.
• 1:35:39
  I think that some of them might be.
• 1:35:40
  Okay, well I'm also sorry, Ottawa.
• 1:35:44
  And I'm yeah.
• 1:35:46
  I I'm picking Winnipeg.
• 1:35:48
  And did you get your pick in MJ?
• 1:35:50
  I glitched there for a moment.
• 1:35:51
  Winnipeg and I want them to have a fan cam on Ryan.
• 1:35:54
  guys we are so boring this week.
• 1:35:56
  We have all agreed.
• 1:35:58
  I want to take Calgary, but I'm not.
• 1:36:01
  Defensive Montreal pick.
• 1:36:04
  Defense wins championships.
• 1:36:06
  you don't if you pick them you don't have to wear the jersey.
• 1:36:08
  Sorry, my bad.
• 1:36:09
  did I mention earlier my allergies have me in this kind of fog that I just I have no idea what's going on to tell you the truth.
• 1:36:16
  has been the easiest like I think the hardest game was the BC Edmonton game.
• 1:36:22
  Yeah.
• 1:36:23
  Yes.
• 1:36:24
  Okay, well that gets us about to the end here.
• 1:36:29
  Nothing left but our final thoughts.
• 1:36:32
  Uh we'll maybe MJ two we'll let you go first.
• 1:36:35
  Any closing thoughts?
• 1:36:36
  I know you don't do social media, but you can direct people just to look for the CFL outsiders and I'll pass anything on to ya.
• 1:36:44
  Please do.
• 1:36:45
  Um if you have a comment, please.
• 1:36:47
  Um wherever you comment on uh blue sky, YouTube, wherever that is, yeah, if you you have a question that you'd like to pass on.
• 1:36:59
  Oh, well.
• 1:37:00
  MJ'll have to pass the comments along.
• 1:37:02
  Otherwise we'll yeah, so so any last thoughts?
• 1:37:05
  Thank you for joining us this week again.
• 1:37:08
  Thanks for having me.
• 1:37:09
  just as a final cause I'm stampede just ramped up or ended.
• 1:37:13
  I wanna shout out to the Crazy Cree Relay team.
• 1:37:17
  Um they're from Heart Creek First Nation and Treaty Six.
• 1:37:21
  They won um the Relay Race Championship this year with Jockey Tyrell McGilvery riding.
• 1:37:27
  If you have not checked out um the relay races, that is something that you you should check out.
• 1:37:34
  Um it is so much fun.
• 1:37:35
  They call it the original extreme sport.
• 1:37:38
  So yeah, so shout out to the Crazy Cree team.
• 1:37:41
  Congratulations.
• 1:37:42
  Okay.
• 1:37:43
  Do you have any kind of a link to it on is there anywhere like YouTube or something?
• 1:37:47
  yeah, they they've been posting a lot uh the Calgary Stampede has been posting a lot of the videos of them on their Facebook page.
• 1:37:55
  what, if you don't mind, email me the link and I'll put it in the show notes for anybody who wants to check it out.
• 1:38:01
  I will for sure.
• 1:38:03
  Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
• 1:38:05
  T
• 1:38:06
  a couple of quick things.
• 1:38:07
  Sorry, a couple of things that I forgot to get into this we into other discussions that I wanted to just quickly bring up before saying goodnight.
• 1:38:16
  as I talked about last week in in in Calgary, the quote for Vernon Adams was uh in the air tonight and everything was working and it's been waiting for this for my moment for all my
• 1:38:26
  life and so on.
• 1:38:27
  And this week I'm gonna use something else that's a little l more obscure but still
• 1:38:31
  A well-known song and here it is and maybe some of you will get it.
• 1:38:35
  I hope that I did.
• 1:38:37
  I was gonna go twice throughout the throughout, but I will give you a bit of a hint.
• 1:38:40
  It is a Canadian act.
• 1:38:42
  I will only say that, and it is take me, take me, get me out of here.
• 1:38:46
  Come on, please help me out.
• 1:38:48
  And then another part of the song says, Losing my head on the road, light up there.
• 1:38:54
  Montreal, won't you let it come on down?
• 1:38:57
  So that was our two sets of different places in the same song.
• 1:39:02
  and I'll let you guys try to figure it out.
• 1:39:03
  But that was as you could probably tell in uh Lou of VA's game in Montreal this past weekend.
• 1:39:09
  And uh I will say that.
• 1:39:11
  And also, if you're at all interested, I thought you might like to know that I did stumble across the DraftKings, I think it was DraftKings, Grey Cup halftime betting odds for the
• 1:39:22
  halftime act.
• 1:39:24
  And at this point, Brad Paisley is plus two fifty as the number one.
• 1:39:28
  Nickelback comes in at number number two at plus three eighty, which was great because I think there w they were right up there in my list of that have them done so far.
• 1:39:37
  And MJ's uh first choice way back when when it was announced, Tate McCrae is plus thirty three hundred.
• 1:39:45
  So those are some of the more interesting ones.
• 1:39:48
  If you're interested in finding out, there is a list.
• 1:39:51
  Of what you want if you want to bet foolishly like most people do, there you have some other ones to bet on.
• 1:39:57
  And other than that, yes, I am occasionally on Blue Sky at GT Barnum at Bluesky Social dot net or dot net dot social, whatever it's whichever it is.
• 1:40:06
  And that's about it for now.
• 1:40:07
  Thank you.
• 1:40:08
  Sorry for ramble.
• 1:40:09
  Yes.
• 1:40:09
  And if they if they follow the same pattern as last year, you'll be able to bet on the Grey Cup halftime act up until the eastern and western finals probably.
• 1:40:18
  ha.
• 1:40:19
  we've been paying attention to commercials this year to see if anyone has music commercials like last year.
• 1:40:24
  Like Machine Gun Kelly, I like, We'll see.
• 1:40:27
  if they don't have Tate McCrae, that's a complete travesty.
• 1:40:31
  And a complete huge miss.
• 1:40:32
  Like if it's not Tate McCrae, then what are we even doing here?
• 1:40:35
  All right.
• 1:40:36
  Anything else before you?
• 1:40:38
  Oh yes, well I yeah.
• 1:40:41
  We had some good uh feedback and comments on Instagram.
• 1:40:44
  Uh GT your uh Canada shore stuff was a big hit.
• 1:40:48
  So keep it coming.
• 1:40:49
  some other Ti-cat fans who wanted to commiserate, so you know, misery loves company and we're all
• 1:40:54
  doing this CFL thing together.
• 1:40:55
  yes, I'm at Sports and Plants.
• 1:40:57
  I am currently posting about the All-Star Game, but that wraps up this week and then I'll be back to football.
• 1:41:02
  And yeah, I'm at the game on Friday at Edmonton with a bunch of BC Lion fans, so don't hold that against me.
• 1:41:08
  All right, enjoy the dogs.
• 1:41:10
  Okay, and I am uh absolutely beat so ready to to to move along here.
• 1:41:16
  I don't know that I've got anything else to say other than this last weekend we first saw the first two real blowouts of the season and I have a feeling we may see a couple more
• 1:41:27
  this week and I hope not.
• 1:41:30
  But just hope for the best.
• 1:41:32
  Hope that that it's good competitive football.
• 1:41:35
  No Thursday night game this week.
• 1:41:36
  They start on Friday, two on Saturday and Sunday, so I'll be dropping Old Man play CFL Weekly Fantasy on the Friday afternoon or noontime or so.
• 1:41:45
  And other than that Like I said, I'm done.
• 1:41:48
  So for special guest MJ2, for MJ, for GT, this is Old Man saying until next week, get the hell off my lawn.